Re: [Felvtalk] Whimsy update (happy news)
After I had lost one or two, I began brushing them and keeping the fur. I use it for felting on cushions, purses, etc. Now I have a bit of each of my babies with me always. Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote: I used to take one of mine out under a tree just sit with her let her see the birds sniff the air. Made it less stressful to give her her meds. After she passed I looked around in the grass to see if I could find some of her fur. My neighbors probably thought I was crazy rummaging through the lawn. Dont Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org --- On Thu, 12/30/10, MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com wrote: From: MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Whimsy update (happy news) To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thursday, December 30, 2010, 7:56 PM Blessings to you and to Whimsy. When it was time for Ebony to leave this world, I took him out in the snow and let himsit/lay in the cold. This is what he wanted and we froze until the vet got there on New Year's Eve nightMiddletown Animal Clinic rocks. Taking a very old, sick cat out into the cold and snow made no sense to anyone but the two of us. You have a heart connection with Whimsy and I am so glad it worked. On Dec 30, 2010, at 6:46 PM, Emeraldkittee wrote: After a stressful, scary week, Whimsy, aka the Whimzinator, is back and better than ever. I knew all he wanted was to go out, so relunctantly, I took him in the yard with me for an hour in the cold, and he was thrilled. he sniffed, walked around, and then ran back in. He was satisfied, had his fill. He literally came back to life in front of my eyes. He hasn't wanted to go out since, and we don't have any plans to do so. Just to build his enclosure. It was against everything I believe is right, but I felt him telling me it was the only way he'd eat again. I really felt he would die if he didn't get to do this. The pepcid injections helped too - but right after he ran in, he ate again, after barely eating for 6 days. He's now back to where he was calorie wise, and is even more loving and cuddly... go figure... thank you everyone for your help. And thank you for the suggestions on nausea - i think he got a sour tummy from being upset, and created a big problem for himself. your suggestions made me remember i could get pepcid injections (since we can't pill him) and this was great. Shannon and the royal cat Whimsy ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Whimsy update (happy news)
I used to take one of mine out under a tree just sit with her let her see the birds sniff the air. Made it less stressful to give her her meds. After she passed I looked around in the grass to see if I could find some of her fur. My neighbors probably thought I was crazy rummaging through the lawn. Dont Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org --- On Thu, 12/30/10, MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com wrote: From: MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Whimsy update (happy news) To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thursday, December 30, 2010, 7:56 PM Blessings to you and to Whimsy. When it was time for Ebony to leave this world, I took him out in the snow and let himsit/lay in the cold. This is what he wanted and we froze until the vet got there on New Year's Eve nightMiddletown Animal Clinic rocks. Taking a very old, sick cat out into the cold and snow made no sense to anyone but the two of us. You have a heart connection with Whimsy and I am so glad it worked. On Dec 30, 2010, at 6:46 PM, Emeraldkittee wrote: After a stressful, scary week, Whimsy, aka the Whimzinator, is back and better than ever. I knew all he wanted was to go out, so relunctantly, I took him in the yard with me for an hour in the cold, and he was thrilled. he sniffed, walked around, and then ran back in. He was satisfied, had his fill. He literally came back to life in front of my eyes. He hasn't wanted to go out since, and we don't have any plans to do so. Just to build his enclosure. It was against everything I believe is right, but I felt him telling me it was the only way he'd eat again. I really felt he would die if he didn't get to do this. The pepcid injections helped too - but right after he ran in, he ate again, after barely eating for 6 days. He's now back to where he was calorie wise, and is even more loving and cuddly... go figure... thank you everyone for your help. And thank you for the suggestions on nausea - i think he got a sour tummy from being upset, and created a big problem for himself. your suggestions made me remember i could get pepcid injections (since we can't pill him) and this was great. Shannon and the royal cat Whimsy ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Whimsy update (happy news)
Aww that is great news! Beth Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Emeraldkittee emeraldkit...@yahoo.com Sender: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2010 16:46:04 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Whimsy update (happy news) After a stressful, scary week, Whimsy, aka the Whimzinator, is back and better than ever. I knew all he wanted was to go out, so relunctantly, I took him in the yard with me for an hour in the cold, and he was thrilled. he sniffed, walked around, and then ran back in. He was satisfied, had his fill. He literally came back to life in front of my eyes. He hasn't wanted to go out since, and we don't have any plans to do so. Just to build his enclosure. It was against everything I believe is right, but I felt him telling me it was the only way he'd eat again. I really felt he would die if he didn't get to do this. The pepcid injections helped too - but right after he ran in, he ate again, after barely eating for 6 days. He's now back to where he was calorie wise, and is even more loving and cuddly... go figure... thank you everyone for your help. And thank you for the suggestions on nausea - i think he got a sour tummy from being upset, and created a big problem for himself. your suggestions made me remember i could get pepcid injections (since we can't pill him) and this was great. Shannon and the royal cat Whimsy ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Whimsy update (happy news)
Blessings to you and to Whimsy. When it was time for Ebony to leave this world, I took him out in the snow and let himsit/lay in the cold. This is what he wanted and we froze until the vet got there on New Year's Eve nightMiddletown Animal Clinic rocks. Taking a very old, sick cat out into the cold and snow made no sense to anyone but the two of us. You have a heart connection with Whimsy and I am so glad it worked. On Dec 30, 2010, at 6:46 PM, Emeraldkittee wrote: After a stressful, scary week, Whimsy, aka the Whimzinator, is back and better than ever. I knew all he wanted was to go out, so relunctantly, I took him in the yard with me for an hour in the cold, and he was thrilled. he sniffed, walked around, and then ran back in. He was satisfied, had his fill. He literally came back to life in front of my eyes. He hasn't wanted to go out since, and we don't have any plans to do so. Just to build his enclosure. It was against everything I believe is right, but I felt him telling me it was the only way he'd eat again. I really felt he would die if he didn't get to do this. The pepcid injections helped too - but right after he ran in, he ate again, after barely eating for 6 days. He's now back to where he was calorie wise, and is even more loving and cuddly... go figure... thank you everyone for your help. And thank you for the suggestions on nausea - i think he got a sour tummy from being upset, and created a big problem for himself. your suggestions made me remember i could get pepcid injections (since we can't pill him) and this was great. Shannon and the royal cat Whimsy ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Whimsy update (happy news)
Wow, Shannon, that is fabulous news! And really weird since it sounded like once he got out he would never want to come back in. Most of our cats have been outdoor cats before they came here (3 were feral, one a stray) and when they look out the window at the subzero winter we wish there was a way to let them know how much better off they are inside. Luckily none of them ever really made an issue of it, and it's so cool that Whimsy seems to be satisfied now as well. Diane R. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Emeraldkittee Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2010 6:46 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Whimsy update (happy news) After a stressful, scary week, Whimsy, aka the Whimzinator, is back and better than ever. I knew all he wanted was to go out, so relunctantly, I took him in the yard with me for an hour in the cold, and he was thrilled. he sniffed, walked around, and then ran back in. He was satisfied, had his fill. He literally came back to life in front of my eyes. He hasn't wanted to go out since, and we don't have any plans to do so. Just to build his enclosure. It was against everything I believe is right, but I felt him telling me it was the only way he'd eat again. I really felt he would die if he didn't get to do this. The pepcid injections helped too - but right after he ran in, he ate again, after barely eating for 6 days. He's now back to where he was calorie wise, and is even more loving and cuddly... go figure... thank you everyone for your help. And thank you for the suggestions on nausea - i think he got a sour tummy from being upset, and created a big problem for himself. your suggestions made me remember i could get pepcid injections (since we can't pill him) and this was great. Shannon and the royal cat Whimsy ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Whimsy update (happy news)
I brought some snow in for Copper and Thomasin a tote to the garage and let them play/explore it. Just an idea. On Dec 30, 2010, at 7:48 PM, Diane Rosenfeldt wrote: Wow, Shannon, that is fabulous news! And really weird since it sounded like once he got out he would never want to come back in. Most of our cats have been outdoor cats before they came here (3 were feral, one a stray) and when they look out the window at the subzero winter we wish there was a way to let them know how much better off they are inside. Luckily none of them ever really made an issue of it, and it's so cool that Whimsy seems to be satisfied now as well. Diane R. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Emeraldkittee Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2010 6:46 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Whimsy update (happy news) After a stressful, scary week, Whimsy, aka the Whimzinator, is back and better than ever. I knew all he wanted was to go out, so relunctantly, I took him in the yard with me for an hour in the cold, and he was thrilled. he sniffed, walked around, and then ran back in. He was satisfied, had his fill. He literally came back to life in front of my eyes. He hasn't wanted to go out since, and we don't have any plans to do so. Just to build his enclosure. It was against everything I believe is right, but I felt him telling me it was the only way he'd eat again. I really felt he would die if he didn't get to do this. The pepcid injections helped too - but right after he ran in, he ate again, after barely eating for 6 days. He's now back to where he was calorie wise, and is even more loving and cuddly... go figure... thank you everyone for your help. And thank you for the suggestions on nausea - i think he got a sour tummy from being upset, and created a big problem for himself. your suggestions made me remember i could get pepcid injections (since we can't pill him) and this was great. Shannon and the royal cat Whimsy ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Whimsy update - happy news
DOING IT AT HIS PACE IS THE ONLY WAY TO GO WITH A FERAL. I HAVE HAD 2 SO FAR, SHORTY PASSED AWAY AT 18 YEARS AND AFTER HE DECIDED TO LET ME TOUCH HIM, BECAME A LAP BABY AND EVERY NIGHT HAD TO SLEEP ON MY BED. NITNOY IS TAKING A LITTLE LONGER BECAUSE SHE LOST ALL BUT 3 OF THER TAIL TO A RACCOON AND SHE IS STILL A BIT SKITISH, ALTHOUGH SHE IS INSIDE AT NIGHT AND ON COLD, RAINY DAYS. SHE WILL SIT WITH ME ON TH SOFA, BUT STILL DOES NOT LIKE TO BE TOUCHED TOO MUCH AND NEVER, NEVER TOUCH HER TAIL. DORLIS Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote: Oh this is so wonderful! Beth Dont Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org --- On Wed, 6/9/10, Emeraldkittee emeraldkit...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Emeraldkittee emeraldkit...@yahoo.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Whimsy update - happy news To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, June 9, 2010, 7:45 PM Just wanted to give an update on Whimsy, originally a feral I was going to TNR. He went for another visit about 6 weeks ago to the vet and surprisingly everything was 'perfect'. I know how things change quickly with these guys, but it was still a celebration. Since then, he's been wayyy more interested in coming in. He DOES have the sunroom (our others miss laying about in the rays, but they'll recover) all to himself. (I think it's great he can feel he's still a part of the outdoors, with all the windows in there) He comes in before dark and is out in the morning. Usually he stays in the yard, his box, or in the sunroom during the day - he gets really upset if he's locked inside too long, so he's still outside when he wants for short periods. He mostly sits with us, watches the fish in the pond, or climbs the large tree. I have a feeling come fall, he's going to be strictly inside. Now, when he wanders a bit, we call him and he's within earshot - he comes bounding through the yard like a puppy (don't tell him I made a canine comparison, please). So, we have done this at 'his pace'. He's become the 'lappiest' cat I have ever had, always wanting to cuddle. He truly wants to meet the others inside, and it's so sad to see him look at the 'real inside' of the house, wanting to come in. But, he's got his own toys, scratcher, catnip, etc. And it's about a year ago I first saw him - a skittish bundle of black and white, untrusting and scared. These guys really teach us to not believe the word impossible, don't they? This group helped sooo much. So, Whimsy's success is shared by all here. Shannon ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Whimsy update - happy news
WHY IS WHIMSY STILL IN THE SUNROM? UNLESS HE DOESN'T GET ALONG WITH SOME OF THE OTHERS, HE COULD COME IN. IF IT IS THE FELV STUFF, NO PROBLEM AS LONG AS OTHERS ARE UP ON THIER SHOTS. ANNIE AND NITNOY HAE BOTH BEEN INSIDE, ANNIE FOR 2 YARS AND NITNOY FOR 1 YEAR AND SO FAR NO PROBLEMS. ONLY PROBLEM IS HOMIE, SHE CAME UP WITH A URINARY PROBLEM, STRUVITE AND CALCIUM CYRSTALS AND WE ARE WORKING ON THAT WITH MEDS AND FOOD, BUT NO CONNECTIONS WITH ANNIE OR NITNOY. Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote: Oh this is so wonderful! Beth Dont Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org --- On Wed, 6/9/10, Emeraldkittee emeraldkit...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Emeraldkittee emeraldkit...@yahoo.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Whimsy update - happy news To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, June 9, 2010, 7:45 PM Just wanted to give an update on Whimsy, originally a feral I was going to TNR. He went for another visit about 6 weeks ago to the vet and surprisingly everything was 'perfect'. I know how things change quickly with these guys, but it was still a celebration. Since then, he's been wayyy more interested in coming in. He DOES have the sunroom (our others miss laying about in the rays, but they'll recover) all to himself. (I think it's great he can feel he's still a part of the outdoors, with all the windows in there) He comes in before dark and is out in the morning. Usually he stays in the yard, his box, or in the sunroom during the day - he gets really upset if he's locked inside too long, so he's still outside when he wants for short periods. He mostly sits with us, watches the fish in the pond, or climbs the large tree. I have a feeling come fall, he's going to be strictly inside. Now, when he wanders a bit, we call him and he's within earshot - he comes bounding through the yard like a puppy (don't tell him I made a canine comparison, please). So, we have done this at 'his pace'. He's become the 'lappiest' cat I have ever had, always wanting to cuddle. He truly wants to meet the others inside, and it's so sad to see him look at the 'real inside' of the house, wanting to come in. But, he's got his own toys, scratcher, catnip, etc. And it's about a year ago I first saw him - a skittish bundle of black and white, untrusting and scared. These guys really teach us to not believe the word impossible, don't they? This group helped sooo much. So, Whimsy's success is shared by all here. Shannon ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Whimsy update - happy news
You've made awesome progress with Whimsey. He sounds like a very special fella. Going at his pace is always a good plan. Give him a cuddle from us Sharyl --- On Wed, 6/9/10, Emeraldkittee emeraldkit...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Emeraldkittee emeraldkit...@yahoo.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Whimsy update - happy news To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, June 9, 2010, 7:45 PM Just wanted to give an update on Whimsy, originally a feral I was going to TNR. He went for another visit about 6 weeks ago to the vet and surprisingly everything was 'perfect'. I know how things change quickly with these guys, but it was still a celebration. Since then, he's been wayyy more interested in coming in. He DOES have the sunroom (our others miss laying about in the rays, but they'll recover) all to himself. (I think it's great he can feel he's still a part of the outdoors, with all the windows in there) He comes in before dark and is out in the morning. Usually he stays in the yard, his box, or in the sunroom during the day - he gets really upset if he's locked inside too long, so he's still outside when he wants for short periods. He mostly sits with us, watches the fish in the pond, or climbs the large tree. I have a feeling come fall, he's going to be strictly inside. Now, when he wanders a bit, we call him and he's within earshot - he comes bounding through the yard like a puppy (don't tell him I made a canine comparison, please). So, we have done this at 'his pace'. He's become the 'lappiest' cat I have ever had, always wanting to cuddle. He truly wants to meet the others inside, and it's so sad to see him look at the 'real inside' of the house, wanting to come in. But, he's got his own toys, scratcher, catnip, etc. And it's about a year ago I first saw him - a skittish bundle of black and white, untrusting and scared. These guys really teach us to not believe the word impossible, don't they? This group helped sooo much. So, Whimsy's success is shared by all here. Shannon ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Whimsy update - happy news
Oh this is so wonderful! Beth Dont Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org --- On Wed, 6/9/10, Emeraldkittee emeraldkit...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Emeraldkittee emeraldkit...@yahoo.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Whimsy update - happy news To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, June 9, 2010, 7:45 PM Just wanted to give an update on Whimsy, originally a feral I was going to TNR. He went for another visit about 6 weeks ago to the vet and surprisingly everything was 'perfect'. I know how things change quickly with these guys, but it was still a celebration. Since then, he's been wayyy more interested in coming in. He DOES have the sunroom (our others miss laying about in the rays, but they'll recover) all to himself. (I think it's great he can feel he's still a part of the outdoors, with all the windows in there) He comes in before dark and is out in the morning. Usually he stays in the yard, his box, or in the sunroom during the day - he gets really upset if he's locked inside too long, so he's still outside when he wants for short periods. He mostly sits with us, watches the fish in the pond, or climbs the large tree. I have a feeling come fall, he's going to be strictly inside. Now, when he wanders a bit, we call him and he's within earshot - he comes bounding through the yard like a puppy (don't tell him I made a canine comparison, please). So, we have done this at 'his pace'. He's become the 'lappiest' cat I have ever had, always wanting to cuddle. He truly wants to meet the others inside, and it's so sad to see him look at the 'real inside' of the house, wanting to come in. But, he's got his own toys, scratcher, catnip, etc. And it's about a year ago I first saw him - a skittish bundle of black and white, untrusting and scared. These guys really teach us to not believe the word impossible, don't they? This group helped sooo much. So, Whimsy's success is shared by all here. Shannon ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Whimsy update - happy news
YAY!! Thanks for sharing. Lucky Whimsy to find you!!! L -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Emeraldkittee Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 6:46 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Whimsy update - happy news Just wanted to give an update on Whimsy, originally a feral I was going to TNR. He went for another visit about 6 weeks ago to the vet and surprisingly everything was 'perfect'. I know how things change quickly with these guys, but it was still a celebration. Since then, he's been wayyy more interested in coming in. He DOES have the sunroom (our others miss laying about in the rays, but they'll recover) all to himself. (I think it's great he can feel he's still a part of the outdoors, with all the windows in there) He comes in before dark and is out in the morning. Usually he stays in the yard, his box, or in the sunroom during the day - he gets really upset if he's locked inside too long, so he's still outside when he wants for short periods. He mostly sits with us, watches the fish in the pond, or climbs the large tree. I have a feeling come fall, he's going to be strictly inside. Now, when he wanders a bit, we call him and he's within earshot - he comes bounding through the yard like a puppy (don't tell him I made a canine comparison, please). So, we have done this at 'his pace'. He's become the 'lappiest' cat I have ever had, always wanting to cuddle. He truly wants to meet the others inside, and it's so sad to see him look at the 'real inside' of the house, wanting to come in. But, he's got his own toys, scratcher, catnip, etc. And it's about a year ago I first saw him - a skittish bundle of black and white, untrusting and scared. These guys really teach us to not believe the word impossible, don't they? This group helped sooo much. So, Whimsy's success is shared by all here. Shannon ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
