Re: [Felvtalk] Xana, FelV positive - interferon?
What are the side effects? Sent from my iPhone On Sep 27, 2009, at 11:02 AM, Second Chance Meows secondchanceme...@yahoo.com wrote: I run a FeLV sanctuary here in the states and have found that the best treatment is love and attention. Having spent almost a year on interferon, I know the side effects of it very well, and would not wish them on any living being.( human or feline). spend time with them, show them that you really care about them when no one else did. Let them spend hours in your lap, sleep on the bed, sun in the window just as any other healthy cat would do. just so you know Esther, my oldest cat here is about 16 and has had FeLV since birth, the rest are all about 3-6 yrs old and doing well Michael Johnson Founder/Owner Second Chance Meows A FeLV Sanctuary From: Esther Jorda estherjo...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2009 5:45:27 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] Xana, FelV positive - interferon? I am new to this group. I live in Spain and have some language difficults, so, sorry for the faults. I am an active member of a cat rescue group. In july I found a kitten in the street with the eyes seriously dammaged. We went to the vet and all was well, excep the positive result to FelV. A friend on mine is fostering her. She seems to be healthy and hapy. I want to give her an opportunity to live with good QOL as long as possible. Unfortunately most vets does not share my opinion, and they think it is not worth. I insist... I read all I can find. I am giving Xana L-Lysina (for her eye condicion) Vetinmune (as inmunomodulator) And I insist to put her on interferon. The vet said that -in that subclinic stadium- the alfa (humane) interferon is the election treatment. When symtoms appear, then it will be the moment to give the omega interferon... My questions are: 1) HAVE ANYONE EXPERIENCE IN THE USE OF FELINE OMEGA INTERFERON WITH ASYMPTOMATIC CATS?? I know it can not clear the virus, but ... Can it to prevent the development of any of the illness related with FelV?? 2) About propiobacterium acnes. I cant find it in Spain. The laboratory does not produce it anymore, and change it for a new product: Corynebacterium parvum (inmufort complex (R). It is used for cows. A colegue (that has a FelV shelter) wrote me to advice she is using it in her 8 FelV+ cats... she said is working well... her oldest cat is now 8 years old. 3) Xana has also chronic diarrhea, in spite I put her on intestinal diet, does no make solid faeces... Any other non invasive tratment can be usefull??? Thanks for your atention Esther ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Xana, FelV positive - interferon?
I'm sure if Michael has had interferon himself it's a high dose and injected, and I certainly humbly respect his personal experience. I have to say, I've used low dose oral interferon with several kitties, and never noticed any side effects, although there certainly could be. The only thing I noticed was that when I stopped the interferon, like when I was on vacation and the person couldn't catch the cat - the cat got sick and died when I returned. Kitty was about 3 yrs old, which is when I've seen several of mine die. Gloria On Sep 29, 2009, at 5:45 AM, Hotmail Junk wrote: What are the side effects? Sent from my iPhone On Sep 27, 2009, at 11:02 AM, Second Chance Meows secondchanceme...@yahoo.com wrote: I run a FeLV sanctuary here in the states and have found that the best treatment is love and attention. Having spent almost a year on interferon, I know the side effects of it very well, and would not wish them on any living being.( human or feline). spend time with them, show them that you really care about them when no one else did. Let them spend hours in your lap, sleep on the bed, sun in the window just as any other healthy cat would do. just so you know Esther, my oldest cat here is about 16 and has had FeLV since birth, the rest are all about 3-6 yrs old and doing well Michael Johnson Founder/Owner Second Chance Meows A FeLV Sanctuary From: Esther Jorda estherjo...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2009 5:45:27 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] Xana, FelV positive - interferon? I am new to this group. I live in Spain and have some language difficults, so, sorry for the faults. I am an active member of a cat rescue group. In july I found a kitten in the street with the eyes seriously dammaged. We went to the vet and all was well, excep the positive result to FelV. A friend on mine is fostering her. She seems to be healthy and hapy. I want to give her an opportunity to live with good QOL as long as possible. Unfortunately most vets does not share my opinion, and they think it is not worth. I insist... I read all I can find. I am giving Xana L-Lysina (for her eye condicion) Vetinmune (as inmunomodulator) And I insist to put her on interferon. The vet said that -in that subclinic stadium- the alfa (humane) interferon is the election treatment. When symtoms appear, then it will be the moment to give the omega interferon... My questions are: 1) HAVE ANYONE EXPERIENCE IN THE USE OF FELINE OMEGA INTERFERON WITH ASYMPTOMATIC CATS?? I know it can not clear the virus, but ... Can it to prevent the development of any of the illness related with FelV?? 2) About propiobacterium acnes. I cant find it in Spain. The laboratory does not produce it anymore, and change it for a new product: Corynebacterium parvum (inmufort complex (R). It is used for cows. A colegue (that has a FelV shelter) wrote me to advice she is using it in her 8 FelV+ cats... she said is working well... her oldest cat is now 8 years old. 3) Xana has also chronic diarrhea, in spite I put her on intestinal diet, does no make solid faeces... Any other non invasive tratment can be usefull??? Thanks for your atention Esther ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Xana, FelV positive - interferon?
Has anyone been able to obtain or use Baypamun for FeLV? Sally Jewell -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk- boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Esther Jorda Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 11:56 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Xana, FelV positive - interferon? Dear Michael, Congratulations for your old kitty and thanks for your sanctuary. Actually vets recommend me to put xana under low dose of interferon (via oral) ... they do not agree if human alfa or feline omega some of them say one some of them the other... *Can you, please, give some advice aboud side effects??* You can be sure Xana has all my love. The problem is that actually she is not living with me. My home is a sort of urban shelter where live 24... too much cats... too much riscs... Xana needs a clean and quite environment... A friend gave me the opportunity, Xana is living in her appartment. She has to go to work, and so do I... So, Xana is alone all the day... I go as often as I can... 1-2 times daily... I spend with Xana 2-3 hours every night... unfortunately she can not sleep with me... I must go home, when others need me too... Speedy (my oldest baby) will be 20 y.o. He is at the end of his life... with CRF, IBD... I want to care him until the end Best regards, Esther ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felinele ukemia.o rg ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Xana, FelV positive - interferon?
Has anyone been able to obtain or use Baypamun for FeLV? Sally Jewell -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk- boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Esther Jorda Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 11:56 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Xana, FelV positive - interferon? Dear Michael, Congratulations for your old kitty and thanks for your sanctuary. Actually vets recommend me to put xana under low dose of interferon (via oral) ... they do not agree if human alfa or feline omega some of them say one some of them the other... *Can you, please, give some advice aboud side effects??* You can be sure Xana has all my love. The problem is that actually she is not living with me. My home is a sort of urban shelter where live 24... too much cats... too much riscs... Xana needs a clean and quite environment... A friend gave me the opportunity, Xana is living in her appartment. She has to go to work, and so do I... So, Xana is alone all the day... I go as often as I can... 1-2 times daily... I spend with Xana 2-3 hours every night... unfortunately she can not sleep with me... I must go home, when others need me too... Speedy (my oldest baby) will be 20 y.o. He is at the end of his life... with CRF, IBD... I want to care him until the end Best regards, Esther ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felinele ukemia.o rg ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Xana, FelV positive - interferon?
my suggestion is to do some research on it. Interferon is used to fight forms of cancer, and is considered to be chemo. side effects include: loss of weight, nausea,hair loss, heart issues, pain, chills,temperature, and many others. I know your talking about low doses of it but anything that is placed into these little bodies that has the power to kill not only the bad cells BUT THE GOOD ONES TOO can not be good for them. their systems are compromised already. JUST MY OPINION. before you make the decision to give this to the cat...look into your own heart and ask is this for the cat..or for yourself?? will this really improve the quality of its life or just prolong the agony its going thru or create more agony,stress for it? Michael Johnson Founder/Owner Second Chance Meows A FeLV Sanctuary From: Esther Jorda estherjo...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 8:56:10 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Xana, FelV positive - interferon? Dear Michael, Congratulations for your old kitty and thanks for your sanctuary. Actually vets recommend me to put xana under low dose of interferon (via oral) ... they do not agree if human alfa or feline omega some of them say one some of them the other... *Can you, please, give some advice aboud side effects??* You can be sure Xana has all my love. The problem is that actually she is not living with me. My home is a sort of urban shelter where live 24... too much cats... too much riscs... Xana needs a clean and quite environment... A friend gave me the opportunity, Xana is living in her appartment. She has to go to work, and so do I... So, Xana is alone all the day... I go as often as I can... 1-2 times daily... I spend with Xana 2-3 hours every night... unfortunately she can not sleep with me... I must go home, when others need me too... Speedy (my oldest baby) will be 20 y.o. He is at the end of his life... with CRF, IBD... I want to care him until the end Best regards, Esther ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Xana, FelV positive - interferon?
Bailey was on the 7 on, 7 off schedule and I noticed on the the 7 days on he was lethargic and didn't eat as well, it took a few of the off days for him to bouncy back. I took him off of it and he went back to his usual bouncy self. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://bemikitties.com http://BelindaSauro.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Xana, FelV positive - interferon?
This is very very low dose - and has to be oral, apparently to hit the back of the throat. I had good luck with it, but when it was withheld, like I said, things didn't go well. My kitties showed no apparent side effects. But many people have and are using that protocol, someone oughta research it. Regards Gloria On Sep 29, 2009, at 10:24 AM, Second Chance Meows wrote: my suggestion is to do some research on it. Interferon is used to fight forms of cancer, and is considered to be chemo. side effects include: loss of weight, nausea,hair loss, heart issues, pain, chills,temperature, and many others. I know your talking about low doses of it but anything that is placed into these little bodies that has the power to kill not only the bad cells BUT THE GOOD ONES TOO can not be good for them. their systems are compromised already. JUST MY OPINION. before you make the decision to give this to the cat...look into your own heart and ask is this for the cat..or for yourself?? will this really improve the quality of its life or just prolong the agony its going thru or create more agony,stress for it? Michael Johnson Founder/Owner Second Chance Meows A FeLV Sanctuary From: Esther Jorda estherjo...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 8:56:10 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Xana, FelV positive - interferon? Dear Michael, Congratulations for your old kitty and thanks for your sanctuary. Actually vets recommend me to put xana under low dose of interferon (via oral) ... they do not agree if human alfa or feline omega some of them say one some of them the other... *Can you, please, give some advice aboud side effects??* You can be sure Xana has all my love. The problem is that actually she is not living with me. My home is a sort of urban shelter where live 24... too much cats... too much riscs... Xana needs a clean and quite environment... A friend gave me the opportunity, Xana is living in her appartment. She has to go to work, and so do I... So, Xana is alone all the day... I go as often as I can... 1-2 times daily... I spend with Xana 2-3 hours every night... unfortunately she can not sleep with me... I must go home, when others need me too... Speedy (my oldest baby) will be 20 y.o. He is at the end of his life... with CRF, IBD... I want to care him until the end Best regards, Esther ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Xana, FelV positive - interferon?
I've been agonizing about giving MeMe Interferon since I've read Michael's post. I have to honestly say that if she is feeling any side effects they are not apparent. We use one day on and one day off which may be a help. Since she has been on it, her appetite has increased dramatically and she has gained 1.5 lbs which is a lot for a 6 pounder. She seems to have the same level of energy and she seems content and craves attention (which she gets, constantly). She does not have a fever and I don't think chills. I would think that if she were nauseous that her appetite would be affected. We've managed to bring her back from the brink, and I had thought the Interferon (in moderation) was helping her maintain her gains. You've caused me to rethink this protocol Michael, although since we have gotten her past the three year hurdle I am reluctant to make changes. Jane On Sep 29, 2009, at 6:00 PM, Gloria B. Lane wrote: This is very very low dose - and has to be oral, apparently to hit the back of the throat. I had good luck with it, but when it was withheld, like I said, things didn't go well. My kitties showed no apparent side effects. But many people have and are using that protocol, someone oughta research it. Regards Gloria On Sep 29, 2009, at 10:24 AM, Second Chance Meows wrote: my suggestion is to do some research on it. Interferon is used to fight forms of cancer, and is considered to be chemo. side effects include: loss of weight, nausea,hair loss, heart issues, pain, chills,temperature, and many others. I know your talking about low doses of it but anything that is placed into these little bodies that has the power to kill not only the bad cells BUT THE GOOD ONES TOO can not be good for them. their systems are compromised already. JUST MY OPINION. before you make the decision to give this to the cat...look into your own heart and ask is this for the cat..or for yourself?? will this really improve the quality of its life or just prolong the agony its going thru or create more agony,stress for it? Michael Johnson Founder/Owner Second Chance Meows A FeLV Sanctuary From: Esther Jorda estherjo...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 8:56:10 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Xana, FelV positive - interferon? Dear Michael, Congratulations for your old kitty and thanks for your sanctuary. Actually vets recommend me to put xana under low dose of interferon (via oral) ... they do not agree if human alfa or feline omega some of them say one some of them the other... *Can you, please, give some advice aboud side effects??* You can be sure Xana has all my love. The problem is that actually she is not living with me. My home is a sort of urban shelter where live 24... too much cats... too much riscs... Xana needs a clean and quite environment... A friend gave me the opportunity, Xana is living in her appartment. She has to go to work, and so do I... So, Xana is alone all the day... I go as often as I can... 1-2 times daily... I spend with Xana 2-3 hours every night... unfortunately she can not sleep with me... I must go home, when others need me too... Speedy (my oldest baby) will be 20 y.o. He is at the end of his life... with CRF, IBD... I want to care him until the end Best regards, Esther ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Xana, FelV positive - interferon?
one of the things that needs to be remember is that as in humans, each animal is different and will react in a different manner. any side effects , will be in a general sense. Michael Johnson Founder/Owner Second Chance Meows A FeLV Sanctuary From: Jane Lyons j.ly...@mindspring.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 4:24:16 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Xana, FelV positive - interferon? I've been agonizing about giving MeMe Interferon since I've read Michael's post. I have to honestly say that if she is feeling any side effects they are not apparent. We use one day on and one day off which may be a help. Since she has been on it, her appetite has increased dramatically and she has gained 1.5 lbs which is a lot for a 6 pounder. She seems to have the same level of energy and she seems content and craves attention (which she gets, constantly). She does not have a fever and I don't think chills. I would think that if she were nauseous that her appetite would be affected. We've managed to bring her back from the brink, and I had thought the Interferon (in moderation) was helping her maintain her gains. You've caused me to rethink this protocol Michael, although since we have gotten her past the three year hurdle I am reluctant to make changes. Jane On Sep 29, 2009, at 6:00 PM, Gloria B. Lane wrote: This is very very low dose - and has to be oral, apparently to hit the back of the throat. I had good luck with it, but when it was withheld, like I said, things didn't go well. My kitties showed no apparent side effects. But many people have and are using that protocol, someone oughta research it. Regards Gloria On Sep 29, 2009, at 10:24 AM, Second Chance Meows wrote: my suggestion is to do some research on it. Interferon is used to fight forms of cancer, and is considered to be chemo. side effects include: loss of weight, nausea,hair loss, heart issues, pain, chills,temperature, and many others. I know your talking about low doses of it but anything that is placed into these little bodies that has the power to kill not only the bad cells BUT THE GOOD ONES TOO can not be good for them. their systems are compromised already. JUST MY OPINION. before you make the decision to give this to the cat...look into your own heart and ask is this for the cat..or for yourself?? will this really improve the quality of its life or just prolong the agony its going thru or create more agony,stress for it? Michael Johnson Founder/Owner Second Chance Meows A FeLV Sanctuary From: Esther Jorda estherjo...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 8:56:10 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Xana, FelV positive - interferon? Dear Michael, Congratulations for your old kitty and thanks for your sanctuary. Actually vets recommend me to put xana under low dose of interferon (via oral) ... they do not agree if human alfa or feline omega some of them say one some of them the other... *Can you, please, give some advice aboud side effects??* You can be sure Xana has all my love. The problem is that actually she is not living with me. My home is a sort of urban shelter where live 24... too much cats... too much riscs... Xana needs a clean and quite environment... A friend gave me the opportunity, Xana is living in her appartment. She has to go to work, and so do I... So, Xana is alone all the day... I go as often as I can... 1-2 times daily... I spend with Xana 2-3 hours every night... unfortunately she can not sleep with me... I must go home, when others need me too... Speedy (my oldest baby) will be 20 y.o. He is at the end of his life... with CRF, IBD... I want to care him until the end Best regards, Esther ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Xana, FelV positive - interferon?
Dear Michael, Congratulations for your old kitty and thanks for your sanctuary. Actually vets recommend me to put xana under low dose of interferon (via oral) ... they do not agree if human alfa or feline omega some of them say one some of them the other... *Can you, please, give some advice aboud side effects??* You can be sure Xana has all my love. The problem is that actually she is not living with me. My home is a sort of urban shelter where live 24... too much cats... too much riscs... Xana needs a clean and quite environment... A friend gave me the opportunity, Xana is living in her appartment. She has to go to work, and so do I... So, Xana is alone all the day... I go as often as I can... 1-2 times daily... I spend with Xana 2-3 hours every night... unfortunately she can not sleep with me... I must go home, when others need me too... Speedy (my oldest baby) will be 20 y.o. He is at the end of his life... with CRF, IBD... I want to care him until the end Best regards, Esther ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Xana, FelV positive - interferon?
That's great news to hear Michael, you sure are doing something right!! -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://bemikitties.com http://BelindaSauro.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Xana, FelV positive - interferon?
Michael, you are doing such a wonderful thing with your FelV sanctuary, and I agree that love and a stress free environment are what keeps them going. I am not in favor of heroic measures, that are extremely stressful and often painful for our fur babies. Lorrie On 09-27, Second Chance Meows wrote: I run a FeLV sanctuary here in the states and have found that the best treatment is love and attention. Having spent almost a year on interferon, I know the side effects of it very well, and would not wish them on any living being.( human or feline). spend time with them, show them that you really care about them when no one else did. Let them spend hours in your lap, sleep on the bed, sun in the window just as any other healthy cat would do. just so you know Esther, my oldest cat here is about 16 and has had FeLV since birth, the rest are all about 3-6 yrs old and doing well Michael Johnson Founder/Owner Second Chance Meows A FeLV Sanctuary ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
