Re: o/t cat facial expressions
Oh, they DEFINITLY have expressions! Whenever I try to brush my Tucker (Which he HATES) or stop him from jumping on one of the other cats he glares takes out his frustration on the cat scratcher. He really ATTACKS it! At least it's not the furnature! MacKenzie wrote: = I'm just wondering, what do y'all think--do we imagine facial expressions on our cats -- and put our own interpretation on them -- or do they actually reflect a real mood?! Lynne's mention of BooBoo scowling makes me think of one of my ferals who I swear looks, in turn, frequently pissed off at me (when I won't let him mix without supervision -- he sprays), guilty (when he gets the better of me, and sprays), and disdainful (when I bring one of my tame cats to see him and his Buddy). One of my tame cats, Katyis, also has a marvellous indignant expression that he pulls on me following (to my mind) imagined slights. Kerry From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lynne Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 8:29 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: breathing difficulties No, he didn't aspirate. I gave the water immediately after the doxy so I don't know which caused it. I think he was hyperventilating. I stayed with him til he calmed down and went to sleep, and honestly I'm afraid to go upstairs. I'm sure he does sense my anxiety. He does not like to be held or confined in any manner. What bugs me though is when we go to the vet, the vet can do anything to him, give him pills, take his temp and BooBoo will just go limp, won't argue, fight, nothing, just scowel. Better go upstairs and make sure he's just sleeping. Lynne - Original Message - From: laurieskatz mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 9:02 AM Subject: Re: breathing difficulties Did he aspirate? Was the problem after the water or after the doxy? Maybe the water isn't working with him. I would call the vet and ask about this. Our vet told us we had to give the doxy directly (not mixed in food). Midas hated it too. It's really important thing is for YOU to be calm before you give him the meds and don't think about it before you actually do it. This is how I got Frankie, a formerly feral kitten, to take inhaled meds. I had to calm my own mind. I also think they can sense if we are going to give them a med so I didn't think about it before I sat down to do it. It did help. Our cats sense our mood...I hope this makes sense. I just got up. L - Original Message - From: Lynne mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 7:53 AM Subject: breathing difficulties I had a frightening event with BooBoo this morning. He hates being given this Doxy and fights me. I gave him some water via syringe after it as well. Suddenly he started gasping for air, breathing through his mouth for about 10 minutes. He is anemic and breathes heavily under normal circumstances. I can't imagine what kind of stress the Interferon shots are going to cause him. Should I try mixing this Doxy with his wet food? It's doubtful he would get the appropriate dosage if I did because he is a light eater. I'm beginning to think that I'm fighting a losing battle here and perhaps it would be best to just let nature take its course without intervention. I hate this. One minute he seems perky and now he's just exhausted. I spent the time with him while he was having problems breathing comforting him, just to get him settled down and even his purring was excessively loud. I don't know how much more this little guy can tolerate. Lynne _ Effective September 1, 2007, we have changed our name to Mayer Brown LLP. IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer Brown LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer Brown LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayers should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor. This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not
o/t cat facial expressions
I'm just wondering, what do y'all think--do we imagine facial expressions on our cats -- and put our own interpretation on them -- or do they actually reflect a real mood?! Lynne's mention of BooBoo scowling makes me think of one of my ferals who I swear looks, in turn, frequently pissed off at me (when I won't let him mix without supervision -- he sprays), guilty (when he gets the better of me, and sprays), and disdainful (when I bring one of my tame cats to see him and his Buddy). One of my tame cats, Katyis, also has a marvellous indignant expression that he pulls on me following (to my mind) imagined slights. Kerry From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lynne Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 8:29 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: breathing difficulties No, he didn't aspirate. I gave the water immediately after the doxy so I don't know which caused it. I think he was hyperventilating. I stayed with him til he calmed down and went to sleep, and honestly I'm afraid to go upstairs. I'm sure he does sense my anxiety. He does not like to be held or confined in any manner. What bugs me though is when we go to the vet, the vet can do anything to him, give him pills, take his temp and BooBoo will just go limp, won't argue, fight, nothing, just scowel. Better go upstairs and make sure he's just sleeping. Lynne - Original Message - From: laurieskatz mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 9:02 AM Subject: Re: breathing difficulties Did he aspirate? Was the problem after the water or after the doxy? Maybe the water isn't working with him. I would call the vet and ask about this. Our vet told us we had to give the doxy directly (not mixed in food). Midas hated it too. It's really important thing is for YOU to be calm before you give him the meds and don't think about it before you actually do it. This is how I got Frankie, a formerly feral kitten, to take inhaled meds. I had to calm my own mind. I also think they can sense if we are going to give them a med so I didn't think about it before I sat down to do it. It did help. Our cats sense our mood...I hope this makes sense. I just got up. L - Original Message - From: Lynne mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 7:53 AM Subject: breathing difficulties I had a frightening event with BooBoo this morning. He hates being given this Doxy and fights me. I gave him some water via syringe after it as well. Suddenly he started gasping for air, breathing through his mouth for about 10 minutes. He is anemic and breathes heavily under normal circumstances. I can't imagine what kind of stress the Interferon shots are going to cause him. Should I try mixing this Doxy with his wet food? It's doubtful he would get the appropriate dosage if I did because he is a light eater. I'm beginning to think that I'm fighting a losing battle here and perhaps it would be best to just let nature take its course without intervention. I hate this. One minute he seems perky and now he's just exhausted. I spent the time with him while he was having problems breathing comforting him, just to get him settled down and even his purring was excessively loud. I don't know how much more this little guy can tolerate. Lynne _ Effective September 1, 2007, we have changed our name to Mayer Brown LLP. IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer Brown LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer Brown LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayers should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor. This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
Re: o/t cat facial expressions
Oh I'm sure they have facial expressions. BooBoo does not like being brought downstairs. He rules the upstairs. It's all his. We are expected to visit him up there. When we have carried him down he does a walk through then goes to the bottom of the stairs which are carpeted and just tears into the second step, all the while shooting us glances, like see what I will do if you force me down here. He claws so fiercly his bottom feet slide on the wood floor until he falls sideways. Then he goes upstairs. One day when we were upstairs and Boo was seemingly sad, I said, come here and was demonstrating how to claw a chair. Sure enough he came over and joined me, all happy shooting his side glances like saying is this right?. I know it's not a good thing to encourage clawing furniture but my cats have never done this so this is kind of funny. He doesn't do any damage anyway. Lynne - Original Message - From: MacKenzie, Kerry N. To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 9:53 AM Subject: o/t cat facial expressions I'm just wondering, what do y'all think--do we imagine facial expressions on our cats -- and put our own interpretation on them -- or do they actually reflect a real mood?! Lynne's mention of BooBoo scowling makes me think of one of my ferals who I swear looks, in turn, frequently pissed off at me (when I won't let him mix without supervision -- he sprays), guilty (when he gets the better of me, and sprays), and disdainful (when I bring one of my tame cats to see him and his Buddy). One of my tame cats, Katyis, also has a marvellous indignant expression that he pulls on me following (to my mind) imagined slights. Kerry -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lynne Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 8:29 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: breathing difficulties No, he didn't aspirate. I gave the water immediately after the doxy so I don't know which caused it. I think he was hyperventilating. I stayed with him til he calmed down and went to sleep, and honestly I'm afraid to go upstairs. I'm sure he does sense my anxiety. He does not like to be held or confined in any manner. What bugs me though is when we go to the vet, the vet can do anything to him, give him pills, take his temp and BooBoo will just go limp, won't argue, fight, nothing, just scowel. Better go upstairs and make sure he's just sleeping. Lynne - Original Message - From: laurieskatz To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 9:02 AM Subject: Re: breathing difficulties Did he aspirate? Was the problem after the water or after the doxy? Maybe the water isn't working with him. I would call the vet and ask about this. Our vet told us we had to give the doxy directly (not mixed in food). Midas hated it too. It's really important thing is for YOU to be calm before you give him the meds and don't think about it before you actually do it. This is how I got Frankie, a formerly feral kitten, to take inhaled meds. I had to calm my own mind. I also think they can sense if we are going to give them a med so I didn't think about it before I sat down to do it. It did help. Our cats sense our mood...I hope this makes sense. I just got up. L - Original Message - From: Lynne To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 7:53 AM Subject: breathing difficulties I had a frightening event with BooBoo this morning. He hates being given this Doxy and fights me. I gave him some water via syringe after it as well. Suddenly he started gasping for air, breathing through his mouth for about 10 minutes. He is anemic and breathes heavily under normal circumstances. I can't imagine what kind of stress the Interferon shots are going to cause him. Should I try mixing this Doxy with his wet food? It's doubtful he would get the appropriate dosage if I did because he is a light eater. I'm beginning to think that I'm fighting a losing battle here and perhaps it would be best to just let nature take its course without intervention. I hate this. One minute he seems perky and now he's just exhausted. I spent the time with him while he was having problems breathing comforting him, just to get him settled down and even his purring was excessively loud. I don't know how much more this little guy can tolerate. Lynne _ Effective September 1, 2007, we have changed our name to Mayer Brown LLP. IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer Brown LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax
Re: o/t cat facial expressions
You aren't imaging anything. When the Royal Princess Kitty Katt was pissed off at me she would slap me around, march to the foot of the bed, perch like a hen, thin about it then march right back up to me and slap me around again. When Ebony Thomas Katt was learning social skills and becoming an indoor cat I gently smacked his nose when he snarled at me too many times (mother-cat style). When I left for school (he was well provided for) and came back on the first weekend, he got in my lap and snacked my nose twice--just to make sure I understood he was doing it intentionally. I could go on for a week. They have expressions and they behave intentionally. Ebony let me know when it was ok for a nephew to pet him and when it wasn't; Dixie lets me know when it is time for various things (take cover from storms, feed Hunter or PC--ferals who live at two different houses, check on whatever is on the porch etc/). Mom's ferals let her know when they are hungry, when there is a dog or fox around. I can keep on going but you get the idea. On Feb 18, 2008, at 8:53 AM, MacKenzie, Kerry N. wrote: I'm just wondering, what do y'all think--do we imagine facial expressions on our cats -- and put our own interpretation on them -- or do they actually reflect a real mood?! Lynne's mention of BooBoo scowling makes me think of one of my ferals who I swear looks, in turn, frequently pissed off at me (when I won't let him mix without supervision -- he sprays), guilty (when he gets the better of me, and sprays), and disdainful (when I bring one of my tame cats to see him and his Buddy). One of my tame cats, Katyis, also has a marvellous indignant expression that he pulls on me following (to my mind) imagined slights. Kerry From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] On Behalf Of Lynne Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 8:29 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: breathing difficulties No, he didn't aspirate. I gave the water immediately after the doxy so I don't know which caused it. I think he was hyperventilating. I stayed with him til he calmed down and went to sleep, and honestly I'm afraid to go upstairs. I'm sure he does sense my anxiety. He does not like to be held or confined in any manner. What bugs me though is when we go to the vet, the vet can do anything to him, give him pills, take his temp and BooBoo will just go limp, won't argue, fight, nothing, just scowel. Better go upstairs and make sure he's just sleeping. Lynne - Original Message - From: laurieskatz To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 9:02 AM Subject: Re: breathing difficulties Did he aspirate? Was the problem after the water or after the doxy? Maybe the water isn't working with him. I would call the vet and ask about this. Our vet told us we had to give the doxy directly (not mixed in food). Midas hated it too. It's really important thing is for YOU to be calm before you give him the meds and don't think about it before you actually do it. This is how I got Frankie, a formerly feral kitten, to take inhaled meds. I had to calm my own mind. I also think they can sense if we are going to give them a med so I didn't think about it before I sat down to do it. It did help. Our cats sense our mood...I hope this makes sense. I just got up. L - Original Message - From: Lynne To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 7:53 AM Subject: breathing difficulties I had a frightening event with BooBoo this morning. He hates being given this Doxy and fights me. I gave him some water via syringe after it as well. Suddenly he started gasping for air, breathing through his mouth for about 10 minutes. He is anemic and breathes heavily under normal circumstances. I can't imagine what kind of stress the Interferon shots are going to cause him. Should I try mixing this Doxy with his wet food? It's doubtful he would get the appropriate dosage if I did because he is a light eater. I'm beginning to think that I'm fighting a losing battle here and perhaps it would be best to just let nature take its course without intervention. I hate this. One minute he seems perky and now he's just exhausted. I spent the time with him while he was having problems breathing comforting him, just to get him settled down and even his purring was excessively loud. I don't know how much more this little guy can tolerate. Lynne _ Effective September 1, 2007, we have changed our name to Mayer Brown LLP. IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer Brown LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any
