Re: [Felvtalk] Another question(s) about Zander's protocol

2017-03-01 Thread Amani Oakley
g to go up from basically a zero level). He was eating and looking 
better, so I grit my teeth and proceeded with the Winstrol. I suspect that many 
vets might have abandoned ship at that point, and pulled the Winstrol before it 
had had an opportunity to really have the desired effect, but my vet was at 
least good enough to recognize that if this treatment didn't work, my cat was 
out of luck, and she allowed me to continue on with the Winstrol since Zander 
was doing better in so many other ways.

This was also our experience when I used Winstrol in another very elderly cat 
who had a large and aggressive sarcoma in her sinus cavity, and again who was 
not expected to live very long. She lived another 3 years after the diagnosis 
(she was around 19 when she passed away), and I believe that the Winstrol 
helped immensely in getting her to keep eating, and to keep the swelling under 
control. With her, we definitely found that her liver enzymes spiked 
dramatically with the use of the Winstrol, but settled down immediately with a 
brief discontinuance of the drug.

Zander died at age 7 from cardiomyopathy - nothing to do with his liver. I 
tortured myself with thoughts that maybe the Winstrol had caused the 
cardiomyopathy, and for all I know, it did. However, again, I did a fair amount 
of research and initially, I found references to a link between Winstrol and 
cardiac damage, but the link was pretty tenuous at best, and seemed to be 
suspected in athletes who had taken Winstrol at 100 X the recommended dosages 
for years and years. My guilt has never gone away because of course, you never 
know, but what I do know is that I would have lost him when he was only a year 
old. If the Winstrol managed to give me 6 more very good years with my cat, who 
played and was exceptionally affectionate and showed an extreme happiness with 
his life, then I would have to say I have no hesitation in doing it again.

What I find truly bizarre is that given the death sentence that this disease 
represents to cats, it should be very simple indeed to (a) have vets try the 
Winstrol and see what their experience is with it (with the proviso that they 
shouldn’t pull a cat off the Winstrol just because the liver enzymes start to 
go up) and (b) why haven’t there been some decent clinical trials with this 
stuff? The cats are zero given probability of surviving this disease. Even if 
Winstrol only works sometimes, that is better than the odds we are given for 
these cats at the moment.




Since I originally posted this two years ago, I have done more research, so I 
now have even more information supporting the use of Winstrol and Doxycycline.

My original email didn’t mention that before I stumbled on the Winstrol, we had 
tried using Interferon and LTCI and Immunoregulin. All these treatments were 
tried for extended periods of time, while simultaneously testing blood work 
weekly to search for any evidence at all of improvement. None of these 
treatments budged Zander’s low red cell, haematocrit, and platelet counts.

Amani




From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Molly 
Mou
Sent: February-28-17 10:20 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Another question(s) about Zander's protocol

Thank you Amani, Bob, Sandy and Ardy for your input.

I was wondering how did Zander's protocol originate? Was is trial and error or 
a known remedy? How did 'they' or you know what meds would work for FeLV cats 
and how was the combination decided? Just wanted some background to give my vet 
when I talk with her.

Thanks again everyone. You are all so supportive!

Yes, I do have a medical background. I'm a retired vet tech so I'm glad I have 
some knowledge of the meds to be used for Mia.
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[Felvtalk] Another question(s) about Zander's protocol

2017-02-28 Thread Molly Mou
Thank you Amani, Bob, Sandy and Ardy for your input.
I was wondering how did Zander's protocol originate? Was is trial and error or 
a known remedy? How did 'they' or you know what meds would work for FeLV cats 
and how was the combination decided? Just wanted some background to give my vet 
when I talk with her. 
Thanks again everyone. You are all so supportive!
Yes, I do have a medical background. I'm a retired vet tech so I'm glad I have 
some knowledge of the meds to be used for Mia. ___
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