Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in a house on fire

2011-12-04 Thread Lee Evans
So far, nothing that tragic has gone wrong in my own life, but I have had to 
move from my nice, safe brick house in the city to a mobile home which, as far 
as I can tell, is made out of cardboard and plastic.  These horrid death traps 
are usually gone with the wind if the wind is above 50 miles per hour and burn 
up in a nanosecond.  To counter this nightmare, I have built a cat enclosure 
separate from the house.  More than half of my rescued cats reside in the 
enclosure which has a large shed attached.  I had to move because the City of 
San Antonio gave me a choice of move or have my excess cats taken from me and 
killed at the animal shelter.  I moved to the next county where there are 
no cat limit laws but  anything affordable is made of paper. I check stoves and 
electric appliances a few dozen times a day, and rarely cook in the house.  I 
also unplug most things that use electricity.  This isn't doing my tendency to 
have
 obsessive-compulsive disorder any good at all.  Sigh.  Well, it's better than 
an apartment in one of the fire traps that have been built with wood shingle 
roofing.  Horrors!  I wouldn't have a polyester stuffed toy in one of those 
places.




From: dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Saturday, December 3, 2011 12:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in a house on fire

Been there too.  I get this sinking feeling and speed up so I can get home to 
my babies.  God what would I do if I pulled up behind fire engines.  I know one 
thing for sure, I would be in the house befoe they could stop me.  The only 
thing they could do is follow and help me get them out.

 GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote: 
 Anytime I'm out, and am driving home and hear a fire engine going up our
 road, I have this horrible thought that it's our house...but, since both my
 husband's family and my family had a house fore, what are the chances for
 another one?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
 dlg...@windstream.net
 Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 10:54 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in a house on fire
 
 I had not thought about what if I were not home.  That is enough to make me
 never leave home again!
 
  Peggy Verdonck-Riley jetalitosunnys...@gmail.com wrote: 
  My biggest fear with 9 cats! Luckely we have an enclosed cat 
  playground outside. We can just push them out the cat door in the 
  window and lock it behind them.
  I just hope something like that never happens when we aren't home!
  
  On Dec 2, 2011 4:34 PM, Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote:
  
   What a terrible story!
  
   This is a lesson I learned from a friend of mine.  Her house was on 
   fire and she grabbed her cat and took him outside but he ran back 
   inside and died in the fire.  God forbid any of you ever have to 
   rescue your cats from a burning house, but cats will always run back 
   inside because this is the place they feel safe.  Always put your 
   cats in carriers or in your car outside your home.  With 13 cats 
   this would have been terribly difficult for your parents, but if 
   there are only one or two cats this can be done.
  
   Lorrie
  
   On 12-02, GRAS wrote:
In 1964, my parents' house in Chicago had a fire on a night of a 
huge snowstorm, 3'!  The fire department had a hard time getting 
there because side street were not plowed, especially not at 3 AM. 
They had 13 cats,
   and I
had just moved back with my two cats because I couldn't afford 
my apartment closer to school. All the cats died in the fire, 
although my father was running around, grabbing them and putting 
them on an enclosed porch, they all ran back as he opened the 
door.When the house was rebuilt, a cat was found in the 
basement ceiling/rafters, completely soft and pliable (not stiff!) 
- poor cats most probably died from smoke inhalation because they have
 such tiny lungs.
   
  
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Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in a house on fire

2011-12-04 Thread Lee Evans
Have you ever tried stuffing cats into pillow cases?  I have 15 cats in the 
mobile home.  I can't imagine stuffing 15 pillow cases with 15 cats and 
actually living to tell the story.  Good idea if you have less than 5 though.  
Don't forget something to tie up the tops and just for safety, double case each 
cat if there's time.  Oh, just build a house out of cement blocks and have 
stainless steel furniture.  Cook outside, at least 50 feet from the house and 
keep several dozen fire extinguishers around in case of emergency.  Now having 
a full blown panic attack.




From: Peggy Verdonck-Riley jetalitosunnys...@gmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Saturday, December 3, 2011 10:43 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in a house on fire


Pillow cases, that's great advise if you can't get to the carriers fast enough! 
Never thought of that. Will work for our ferret too!
*runs to the store to get 10 new pillow cases, just in case* ;-)


2011/12/2 GRAS g...@optonline.net

My father even burned his corneas trying to save the cats (was OK in the
long run). And as it turned out later, he was actually running on a
wall-to-wall carpet with no floor under it anymoreBut he still kept
trying.  Another great idea is to use  pillowcases in any emergency - that's
always around!
BTW - horses do the same when a barn is on fire; they run back.


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From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lorrie
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 5:40 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in a house on fire

What a terrible story!

This is a lesson I learned from a friend of mine.  Her house was on fire and
she grabbed her cat and took him outside but he ran back inside and died in
the fire.  God forbid any of you ever have to rescue your cats from a
burning house, but cats will always run back inside because this is the
place they feel safe.  Always put your cats in carriers or in your car
outside your home.  With 13 cats this would have been terribly difficult for
your parents, but if there are only one or two cats this can be done.

Lorrie

On 12-02, GRAS wrote:
 In 1964, my parents' house in Chicago had a fire on a night of a huge
 snowstorm, 3'!  The fire department had a hard time getting there
 because side street were not plowed, especially not at 3 AM. They had
 13 cats, and I had just moved back with my two cats because I
 couldn't afford my apartment closer to school. All the cats died in
 the fire, although my father was running around, grabbing them and
 putting them on an enclosed porch, they all ran back as he opened the
 door.When the house was rebuilt, a cat was found in the basement
 ceiling/rafters, completely soft and pliable (not stiff!) - poor cats
 most probably died from smoke inhalation because they have such tiny
lungs.


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Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in a house on fire

2011-12-04 Thread ebony katt
I had a fire suppression system installed in my home.  Relatively
inexpensive for the peace it gives me with my four legged friends.

On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 6:52 AM, Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Have you ever tried stuffing cats into pillow cases?  I have 15 cats in
 the mobile home.  I can't imagine stuffing 15 pillow cases with 15 cats and
 actually living to tell the story.  Good idea if you have less than 5
 though.  Don't forget something to tie up the tops and just for safety,
 double case each cat if there's time.  Oh, just build a house out of cement
 blocks and have stainless steel furniture.  Cook outside, at least 50 feet
 from the house and keep several dozen fire extinguishers around in case of
 emergency.  Now having a full blown panic attack.

  *From:* Peggy Verdonck-Riley jetalitosunnys...@gmail.com
 *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 *Sent:* Saturday, December 3, 2011 10:43 AM

 *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in a house on fire

  Pillow cases, that's great advise if you can't get to the carriers fast
 enough! Never thought of that. Will work for our ferret too!
 *runs to the store to get 10 new pillow cases, just in case* ;-)

 2011/12/2 GRAS g...@optonline.net

 My father even burned his corneas trying to save the cats (was OK in the
 long run). And as it turned out later, he was actually running on a
 wall-to-wall carpet with no floor under it anymoreBut he still kept
 trying.  Another great idea is to use  pillowcases in any emergency -
 that's
 always around!
 BTW - horses do the same when a barn is on fire; they run back.

 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lorrie
 Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 5:40 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in a house on fire

 What a terrible story!

 This is a lesson I learned from a friend of mine.  Her house was on fire
 and
 she grabbed her cat and took him outside but he ran back inside and died in
 the fire.  God forbid any of you ever have to rescue your cats from a
 burning house, but cats will always run back inside because this is the
 place they feel safe.  Always put your cats in carriers or in your car
 outside your home.  With 13 cats this would have been terribly difficult
 for
 your parents, but if there are only one or two cats this can be done.

 Lorrie

 On 12-02, GRAS wrote:
  In 1964, my parents' house in Chicago had a fire on a night of a huge
  snowstorm, 3'!  The fire department had a hard time getting there
  because side street were not plowed, especially not at 3 AM. They had
  13 cats, and I had just moved back with my two cats because I
  couldn't afford my apartment closer to school. All the cats died in
  the fire, although my father was running around, grabbing them and
  putting them on an enclosed porch, they all ran back as he opened the
  door.When the house was rebuilt, a cat was found in the basement
  ceiling/rafters, completely soft and pliable (not stiff!) - poor cats
  most probably died from smoke inhalation because they have such tiny
 lungs.
 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in a house on fire

2011-12-04 Thread GRAS
What's a fire suppression system?

We have fire alarm.but that's no good when we're not at home, other than to
get the FD here..

 

From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of ebony katt
Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2011 8:38 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in a house on fire

 

I had a fire suppression system installed in my home.  Relatively
inexpensive for the peace it gives me with my four legged friends. 

On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 6:52 AM, Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote:

Have you ever tried stuffing cats into pillow cases?  I have 15 cats in the
mobile home.  I can't imagine stuffing 15 pillow cases with 15 cats and
actually living to tell the story.  Good idea if you have less than 5
though.  Don't forget something to tie up the tops and just for safety,
double case each cat if there's time.  Oh, just build a house out of cement
blocks and have stainless steel furniture.  Cook outside, at least 50 feet
from the house and keep several dozen fire extinguishers around in case of
emergency.  Now having a full blown panic attack.

 

From: Peggy Verdonck-Riley jetalitosunnys...@gmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Saturday, December 3, 2011 10:43 AM


Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in a house on fire

 

Pillow cases, that's great advise if you can't get to the carriers fast
enough! Never thought of that. Will work for our ferret too!

*runs to the store to get 10 new pillow cases, just in case* ;-)

2011/12/2 GRAS g...@optonline.net

My father even burned his corneas trying to save the cats (was OK in the
long run). And as it turned out later, he was actually running on a
wall-to-wall carpet with no floor under it anymoreBut he still kept
trying.  Another great idea is to use  pillowcases in any emergency - that's
always around!
BTW - horses do the same when a barn is on fire; they run back.


-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lorrie
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 5:40 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in a house on fire

What a terrible story!

This is a lesson I learned from a friend of mine.  Her house was on fire and
she grabbed her cat and took him outside but he ran back inside and died in
the fire.  God forbid any of you ever have to rescue your cats from a
burning house, but cats will always run back inside because this is the
place they feel safe.  Always put your cats in carriers or in your car
outside your home.  With 13 cats this would have been terribly difficult for
your parents, but if there are only one or two cats this can be done.

Lorrie

On 12-02, GRAS wrote:
 In 1964, my parents' house in Chicago had a fire on a night of a huge
 snowstorm, 3'!  The fire department had a hard time getting there
 because side street were not plowed, especially not at 3 AM. They had
 13 cats, and I had just moved back with my two cats because I
 couldn't afford my apartment closer to school. All the cats died in
 the fire, although my father was running around, grabbing them and
 putting them on an enclosed porch, they all ran back as he opened the
 door.When the house was rebuilt, a cat was found in the basement
 ceiling/rafters, completely soft and pliable (not stiff!) - poor cats
 most probably died from smoke inhalation because they have such tiny
lungs.


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Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in a house on fire

2011-12-04 Thread GRAS
Yes, I have tried, and it goes better than stuffing them into a carrier.it's
like dropping a towel over them to catch them to go to the vet..then you tie
the pillowcase.

BTW - at our house, there's no way I could stuff all of them into
pillowcases.I have no idea what I would do.  And they would also all hide
under sofas and beds.how do you get them out from under there in time?

Our cats actually love sleeping in cages.  After we've introduced a new cat
and open the cage to let it join the others, before we have a chance to
remove it, as many cats as possible squeeze into them...once I counted 8
cats and took a picture!

 

From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lee Evans
Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2011 7:52 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in a house on fire

 

Have you ever tried stuffing cats into pillow cases?  I have 15 cats in the
mobile home.  I can't imagine stuffing 15 pillow cases with 15 cats and
actually living to tell the story.  Good idea if you have less than 5
though.  Don't forget something to tie up the tops and just for safety,
double case each cat if there's time.  Oh, just build a house out of cement
blocks and have stainless steel furniture.  Cook outside, at least 50 feet
from the house and keep several dozen fire extinguishers around in case of
emergency.  Now having a full blown panic attack.



 

From: Peggy Verdonck-Riley jetalitosunnys...@gmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Saturday, December 3, 2011 10:43 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in a house on fire

Pillow cases, that's great advise if you can't get to the carriers fast
enough! Never thought of that. Will work for our ferret too!

*runs to the store to get 10 new pillow cases, just in case* ;-)

2011/12/2 GRAS g...@optonline.net

My father even burned his corneas trying to save the cats (was OK in the
long run). And as it turned out later, he was actually running on a
wall-to-wall carpet with no floor under it anymoreBut he still kept
trying.  Another great idea is to use  pillowcases in any emergency - that's
always around!
BTW - horses do the same when a barn is on fire; they run back.


-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lorrie
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 5:40 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in a house on fire

What a terrible story!

This is a lesson I learned from a friend of mine.  Her house was on fire and
she grabbed her cat and took him outside but he ran back inside and died in
the fire.  God forbid any of you ever have to rescue your cats from a
burning house, but cats will always run back inside because this is the
place they feel safe.  Always put your cats in carriers or in your car
outside your home.  With 13 cats this would have been terribly difficult for
your parents, but if there are only one or two cats this can be done.

Lorrie

On 12-02, GRAS wrote:
 In 1964, my parents' house in Chicago had a fire on a night of a huge
 snowstorm, 3'!  The fire department had a hard time getting there
 because side street were not plowed, especially not at 3 AM. They had
 13 cats, and I had just moved back with my two cats because I
 couldn't afford my apartment closer to school. All the cats died in
 the fire, although my father was running around, grabbing them and
 putting them on an enclosed porch, they all ran back as he opened the
 door.When the house was rebuilt, a cat was found in the basement
 ceiling/rafters, completely soft and pliable (not stiff!) - poor cats
 most probably died from smoke inhalation because they have such tiny
lungs.


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Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in a house on fire

2011-12-04 Thread GRAS
I'm so glad to hear that so many in this group would go to all lengths for
their four-legged friends!

 

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lee Evans
Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2011 7:39 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in a house on fire

 

So far, nothing that tragic has gone wrong in my own life, but I have had to
move from my nice, safe brick house in the city to a mobile home which, as
far as I can tell, is made out of cardboard and plastic.  These horrid death
traps are usually gone with the wind if the wind is above 50 miles per hour
and burn up in a nanosecond.  To counter this nightmare, I have built a cat
enclosure separate from the house.  More than half of my rescued cats reside
in the enclosure which has a large shed attached.  I had to move because the
City of San Antonio gave me a choice of move or have my excess cats taken
from me and killed at the animal shelter.  I moved to the next county
where there are no cat limit laws but  anything affordable is made of paper.
I check stoves and electric appliances a few dozen times a day, and rarely
cook in the house.  I also unplug most things that use electricity.  This
isn't doing my tendency to have obsessive-compulsive disorder any good at
all.  Sigh.  Well, it's better than an apartment in one of the fire traps
that have been built with wood shingle roofing.  Horrors!  I wouldn't have a
polyester stuffed toy in one of those places.



 

From: dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Saturday, December 3, 2011 12:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in a house on fire

Been there too.  I get this sinking feeling and speed up so I can get home
to my babies.  God what would I do if I pulled up behind fire engines.  I
know one thing for sure, I would be in the house befoe they could stop me.
The only thing they could do is follow and help me get them out.

 GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote: 
 Anytime I'm out, and am driving home and hear a fire engine going up our
 road, I have this horrible thought that it's our house...but, since both
my
 husband's family and my family had a house fore, what are the chances for
 another one?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
 dlg...@windstream.net
 Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 10:54 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in a house on fire
 
 I had not thought about what if I were not home.  That is enough to make
me
 never leave home again!
 
  Peggy Verdonck-Riley jetalitosunnys...@gmail.com wrote: 
  My biggest fear with 9 cats! Luckely we have an enclosed cat 
  playground outside. We can just push them out the cat door in the 
  window and lock it behind them.
  I just hope something like that never happens when we aren't home!
  
  On Dec 2, 2011 4:34 PM, Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote:
  
   What a terrible story!
  
   This is a lesson I learned from a friend of mine.  Her house was on 
   fire and she grabbed her cat and took him outside but he ran back 
   inside and died in the fire.  God forbid any of you ever have to 
   rescue your cats from a burning house, but cats will always run back 
   inside because this is the place they feel safe.  Always put your 
   cats in carriers or in your car outside your home.  With 13 cats 
   this would have been terribly difficult for your parents, but if 
   there are only one or two cats this can be done.
  
   Lorrie
  
   On 12-02, GRAS wrote:
In 1964, my parents' house in Chicago had a fire on a night of a 
huge snowstorm, 3'!  The fire department had a hard time getting 
there because side street were not plowed, especially not at 3 AM. 
They had 13 cats,
   and I
had just moved back with my two cats because I couldn't afford 
my apartment closer to school. All the cats died in the fire, 
although my father was running around, grabbing them and putting 
them on an enclosed porch, they all ran back as he opened the 
door.When the house was rebuilt, a cat was found in the 
basement ceiling/rafters, completely soft and pliable (not stiff!) 
- poor cats most probably died from smoke inhalation because they
have
 such tiny lungs.
   
  
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Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in a house on fire

2011-12-04 Thread Susan Hoffman
Having actually been burned out of one house I now give wings to my paranoia.

At night before going to bed and in the morning before leaving for work I walk 
through the house turning things off and unplugging what I can.

We have LOTS of smoke detectors, including one in the garage.  And I want 
more.  Need to replace my fire extinguishers too.

We remove the knobs from the stove and only put them on when we are cooking.  I 
actually saw one of the cats once step on a knob to get to the stove top and 
turn the stove on.  That was the day the knobs came off.

If I'm cooking, I'm in the kitchen.  I don't leave the room with the stove on.

No extension cords.

If a lamp malfunctions I throw itr away.

It doesn't matter if it makes sense.  I'm OK with being irrational about fire.  
Already had one house fire and that was enough.

--- On Sun, 12/4/11, Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote:

From: Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in a house on fire
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Sunday, December 4, 2011, 4:39 AM

So far, nothing that tragic has gone wrong in my own life, but I have had to 
move from my nice, safe brick house in the city to a mobile home which, as far 
as I can tell, is made out of cardboard and plastic.  These horrid death traps 
are usually gone with the wind if the wind is above 50 miles per hour and burn 
up in a nanosecond.  To counter this nightmare, I have built a cat enclosure 
separate from the house.  More than half of my rescued cats reside in the 
enclosure which has a large shed attached.  I had to move because the City of 
San Antonio gave me a choice of move or have my excess cats taken from me and 
killed at the animal shelter.  I moved to the next county where there are 
no cat limit laws but
  anything affordable is made of paper. I check stoves and electric appliances 
a few dozen times a day, and rarely cook in the house.  I also unplug most 
things that use electricity.  This isn't doing my tendency to have 
obsessive-compulsive disorder any good at all.  Sigh.  Well, it's better than 
an apartment in one of the fire traps that have been built with wood shingle 
roofing.  Horrors!  I wouldn't have a polyester stuffed toy in one of those 
places.





From: dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Saturday, December 3, 2011 12:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in a house on fire

Been there too.  I get this sinking feeling and speed up so I can get home to 
my babies.  God what would I do if I pulled up behind fire engines.  I know one 
thing for sure, I would be in the house befoe they could stop me.  The only
 thing they could do is follow and help me get them out.

 GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote: 
 Anytime I'm out, and am driving home and hear a fire engine going up our
 road, I have this horrible thought that it's our house...but, since both my
 husband's family and my family had a house fore, what are the chances for
 another one?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
 dlg...@windstream.net
 Sent:
 Friday, December 02, 2011 10:54 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in a house on fire
 
 I had not thought about what if I were not home.  That is enough to make me
 never leave home again!
 
  Peggy Verdonck-Riley jetalitosunnys...@gmail.com wrote: 
  My biggest fear with 9 cats! Luckely we have an enclosed cat 
  playground outside. We can just push them out the cat door in the 
  window and lock it behind them.
  I just hope something like that never happens when we aren't home!
  
  On Dec 2, 2011 4:34 PM, Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote:
  
   What a terrible story!
  
   This is a lesson I learned from a friend of mine.  Her house was on 
   fire and she grabbed her cat and took him outside but he ran back 
   inside and died in the fire.  God forbid any of you ever have to 
   rescue your cats from a burning house, but cats will always run back 
   inside because this is the place they feel safe.  Always put your 
   cats in carriers or in your car outside your home.  With 13 cats 
   this would have been terribly difficult for your parents, but if 
   there are only one or two cats this can be done.
  
   Lorrie
  
   On 12-02, GRAS wrote:
In
 1964, my parents' house in Chicago had a fire on a night of a 
huge snowstorm, 3'!  The fire department had a hard time getting 
there because side street were not plowed, especially not at 3 AM. 
They had 13 cats,
   and I
had just moved back with my two cats because I couldn't afford 
my apartment closer to school. All the cats died in the fire, 
although my father was running around, grabbing them and putting 
them on an enclosed porch, they all ran back as he opened the 
door.When the house was rebuilt, a cat was found in the 
basement

Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in a house on fire

2011-12-04 Thread GRAS
My parent's house burned due to faulty electrical something.  My mother
remembers that the same evening, a few cats were sitting at the top of the
stairs to the basement, and kept staring at something.  She believed that
they must have been watching some kind of a short already...

 

From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Susan Hoffman
Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2011 11:25 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in a house on fire

 


Having actually been burned out of one house I now give wings to my
paranoia.

At night before going to bed and in the morning before leaving for work I
walk through the house turning things off and unplugging what I can.

We have LOTS of smoke detectors, including one in the garage.  And I want
more.  Need to replace my fire extinguishers too.

We remove the knobs from the stove and only put them on when we are cooking.
I actually saw one of the cats once step on a knob to get to the stove top
and turn the stove on.  That was the day the knobs came off.

If I'm cooking, I'm in the kitchen.  I don't leave the room with the stove
on.

No extension cords.

If a lamp malfunctions I throw itr away.

It doesn't matter if it makes sense.  I'm OK with being irrational about
fire.  Already had one house fire and that was enough.

--- On Sun, 12/4/11, Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote:


From: Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in a house on fire
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Sunday, December 4, 2011, 4:39 AM

So far, nothing that tragic has gone wrong in my own life, but I have had to
move from my nice, safe brick house in the city to a mobile home which, as
far as I can tell, is made out of cardboard and plastic.  These horrid death
traps are usually gone with the wind if the wind is above 50 miles per hour
and burn up in a nanosecond.  To counter this nightmare, I have built a cat
enclosure separate from the house.  More than half of my rescued cats reside
in the enclosure which has a large shed attached.  I had to move because the
City of San Antonio gave me a choice of move or have my excess cats taken
from me and killed at the animal shelter.  I moved to the next county
where there are no cat limit laws but  anything affordable is made of paper.
I check stoves and electric appliances a few dozen times a day, and rarely
cook in the house.  I also unplug most things that use electricity.  This
isn't doing my tendency to have obsessive-compulsive disorder any good at
all.  Sigh.  Well, it's better than an apartment in one of the fire traps
that have been built with wood shingle roofing.  Horrors!  I wouldn't have a
polyester stuffed toy in one of those places.

 

From: dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Saturday, December 3, 2011 12:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in a house on fire

Been there too.  I get this sinking feeling and speed up so I can get home
to my babies.  God what would I do if I pulled up behind fire engines.  I
know one thing for sure, I would be in the house befoe they could stop me.
The only thing they could do is follow and help me get them out.

 GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote: 
 Anytime I'm out, and am driving home and hear a fire engine going up our
 road, I have this horrible thought that it's our house...but, since both
my
 husband's family and my family had a house fore, what are the chances for
 another one?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
 dlg...@windstream.net
 Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 10:54 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in a house on fire
 
 I had not thought about what if I were not home.  That is enough to make
me
 never leave home again!
 
  Peggy Verdonck-Riley jetalitosunnys...@gmail.com wrote: 
  My biggest fear with 9 cats! Luckely we have an enclosed cat 
  playground outside. We can just push them out the cat door in the 
  window and lock it behind them.
  I just hope something like that never happens when we aren't home!
  
  On Dec 2, 2011 4:34 PM, Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote:
  
   What a terrible story!
  
   This is a lesson I learned from a friend of mine.  Her house was on 
   fire and she grabbed her cat and took him outside but he ran back 
   inside and died in the fire.  God forbid any of you ever have to 
   rescue your cats from a burning house, but cats will always run back 
   inside because this is the place they feel safe.  Always put your 
   cats in carriers or in your car outside your home.  With 13 cats 
   this would have been terribly difficult for your parents, but if 
   there are only one or two cats this can be done.
  
   Lorrie
  
   On 12-02, GRAS wrote:
In 1964, my parents' house in Chicago had a fire on a night of a 
huge snowstorm, 3

Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in a house on fire

2011-12-04 Thread dlgegg
OK, now I am paranoid too.  Hadn't thought about unplugging eveything , 
especially when I leave.So it taes a few minutes, better than coming hometo a 
burned out house and my babies dead.  


 GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote: 
 My parent's house burned due to faulty electrical something.  My mother
 remembers that the same evening, a few cats were sitting at the top of the
 stairs to the basement, and kept staring at something.  She believed that
 they must have been watching some kind of a short already...
 
  
 
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Susan Hoffman
 Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2011 11:25 AM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in a house on fire
 
  
 
 
 Having actually been burned out of one house I now give wings to my
 paranoia.
 
 At night before going to bed and in the morning before leaving for work I
 walk through the house turning things off and unplugging what I can.
 
 We have LOTS of smoke detectors, including one in the garage.  And I want
 more.  Need to replace my fire extinguishers too.
 
 We remove the knobs from the stove and only put them on when we are cooking.
 I actually saw one of the cats once step on a knob to get to the stove top
 and turn the stove on.  That was the day the knobs came off.
 
 If I'm cooking, I'm in the kitchen.  I don't leave the room with the stove
 on.
 
 No extension cords.
 
 If a lamp malfunctions I throw itr away.
 
 It doesn't matter if it makes sense.  I'm OK with being irrational about
 fire.  Already had one house fire and that was enough.
 
 --- On Sun, 12/4/11, Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 
 From: Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in a house on fire
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Sunday, December 4, 2011, 4:39 AM
 
 So far, nothing that tragic has gone wrong in my own life, but I have had to
 move from my nice, safe brick house in the city to a mobile home which, as
 far as I can tell, is made out of cardboard and plastic.  These horrid death
 traps are usually gone with the wind if the wind is above 50 miles per hour
 and burn up in a nanosecond.  To counter this nightmare, I have built a cat
 enclosure separate from the house.  More than half of my rescued cats reside
 in the enclosure which has a large shed attached.  I had to move because the
 City of San Antonio gave me a choice of move or have my excess cats taken
 from me and killed at the animal shelter.  I moved to the next county
 where there are no cat limit laws but  anything affordable is made of paper.
 I check stoves and electric appliances a few dozen times a day, and rarely
 cook in the house.  I also unplug most things that use electricity.  This
 isn't doing my tendency to have obsessive-compulsive disorder any good at
 all.  Sigh.  Well, it's better than an apartment in one of the fire traps
 that have been built with wood shingle roofing.  Horrors!  I wouldn't have a
 polyester stuffed toy in one of those places.
 
  
 
 From: dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
 Sent: Saturday, December 3, 2011 12:42 PM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in a house on fire
 
 Been there too.  I get this sinking feeling and speed up so I can get home
 to my babies.  God what would I do if I pulled up behind fire engines.  I
 know one thing for sure, I would be in the house befoe they could stop me.
 The only thing they could do is follow and help me get them out.
 
  GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote: 
  Anytime I'm out, and am driving home and hear a fire engine going up our
  road, I have this horrible thought that it's our house...but, since both
 my
  husband's family and my family had a house fore, what are the chances for
  another one?
  
  -Original Message-
  From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
  [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
  dlg...@windstream.net
  Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 10:54 PM
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in a house on fire
  
  I had not thought about what if I were not home.  That is enough to make
 me
  never leave home again!
  
   Peggy Verdonck-Riley jetalitosunnys...@gmail.com wrote: 
   My biggest fear with 9 cats! Luckely we have an enclosed cat 
   playground outside. We can just push them out the cat door in the 
   window and lock it behind them.
   I just hope something like that never happens when we aren't home!
   
   On Dec 2, 2011 4:34 PM, Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote:
   
What a terrible story!
   
This is a lesson I learned from a friend of mine.  Her house was on 
fire and she grabbed her cat and took him outside but he ran back 
inside and died in the fire.  God forbid any of you ever have to 
rescue your cats from a burning house, but cats will always run back 
inside because this is the place they feel safe

Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in a house on fire

2011-12-04 Thread dlgegg
bout the cats sitting and watching something, it makes sense because animals 
can sense things bout to happen way better than we can.  Lil Bit kept licking 
at my left cheek and would not leave me alone.  Went to dermatologist and I had 
a Basil Cell Carcinoma.

 GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote: 
 My parent's house burned due to faulty electrical something.  My mother
 remembers that the same evening, a few cats were sitting at the top of the
 stairs to the basement, and kept staring at something.  She believed that
 they must have been watching some kind of a short already...
 
  
 
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Susan Hoffman
 Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2011 11:25 AM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in a house on fire
 
  
 
 
 Having actually been burned out of one house I now give wings to my
 paranoia.
 
 At night before going to bed and in the morning before leaving for work I
 walk through the house turning things off and unplugging what I can.
 
 We have LOTS of smoke detectors, including one in the garage.  And I want
 more.  Need to replace my fire extinguishers too.
 
 We remove the knobs from the stove and only put them on when we are cooking.
 I actually saw one of the cats once step on a knob to get to the stove top
 and turn the stove on.  That was the day the knobs came off.
 
 If I'm cooking, I'm in the kitchen.  I don't leave the room with the stove
 on.
 
 No extension cords.
 
 If a lamp malfunctions I throw itr away.
 
 It doesn't matter if it makes sense.  I'm OK with being irrational about
 fire.  Already had one house fire and that was enough.
 
 --- On Sun, 12/4/11, Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 
 From: Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in a house on fire
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Sunday, December 4, 2011, 4:39 AM
 
 So far, nothing that tragic has gone wrong in my own life, but I have had to
 move from my nice, safe brick house in the city to a mobile home which, as
 far as I can tell, is made out of cardboard and plastic.  These horrid death
 traps are usually gone with the wind if the wind is above 50 miles per hour
 and burn up in a nanosecond.  To counter this nightmare, I have built a cat
 enclosure separate from the house.  More than half of my rescued cats reside
 in the enclosure which has a large shed attached.  I had to move because the
 City of San Antonio gave me a choice of move or have my excess cats taken
 from me and killed at the animal shelter.  I moved to the next county
 where there are no cat limit laws but  anything affordable is made of paper.
 I check stoves and electric appliances a few dozen times a day, and rarely
 cook in the house.  I also unplug most things that use electricity.  This
 isn't doing my tendency to have obsessive-compulsive disorder any good at
 all.  Sigh.  Well, it's better than an apartment in one of the fire traps
 that have been built with wood shingle roofing.  Horrors!  I wouldn't have a
 polyester stuffed toy in one of those places.
 
  
 
 From: dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
 Sent: Saturday, December 3, 2011 12:42 PM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in a house on fire
 
 Been there too.  I get this sinking feeling and speed up so I can get home
 to my babies.  God what would I do if I pulled up behind fire engines.  I
 know one thing for sure, I would be in the house befoe they could stop me.
 The only thing they could do is follow and help me get them out.
 
  GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote: 
  Anytime I'm out, and am driving home and hear a fire engine going up our
  road, I have this horrible thought that it's our house...but, since both
 my
  husband's family and my family had a house fore, what are the chances for
  another one?
  
  -Original Message-
  From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
  [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
  dlg...@windstream.net
  Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 10:54 PM
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in a house on fire
  
  I had not thought about what if I were not home.  That is enough to make
 me
  never leave home again!
  
   Peggy Verdonck-Riley jetalitosunnys...@gmail.com wrote: 
   My biggest fear with 9 cats! Luckely we have an enclosed cat 
   playground outside. We can just push them out the cat door in the 
   window and lock it behind them.
   I just hope something like that never happens when we aren't home!
   
   On Dec 2, 2011 4:34 PM, Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote:
   
What a terrible story!
   
This is a lesson I learned from a friend of mine.  Her house was on 
fire and she grabbed her cat and took him outside but he ran back 
inside and died in the fire.  God forbid any of you ever have to 
rescue your cats from a burning house, but cats

Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in a house on fire

2011-12-04 Thread dlgegg
My Nitnoy sleeps in a carrier that I have in my room for days Harley won't 
leave the others alone.  He goes in for a time out. until he slows down.  It is 
better than yelling at him or spritzing him with water, the whole house would 
be sopping wet all the time.
Maybe you could coax them out from their hiding places with a specil treat.

 GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote: 
 Yes, I have tried, and it goes better than stuffing them into a carrier.it's
 like dropping a towel over them to catch them to go to the vet..then you tie
 the pillowcase.
 
 BTW - at our house, there's no way I could stuff all of them into
 pillowcases.I have no idea what I would do.  And they would also all hide
 under sofas and beds.how do you get them out from under there in time?
 
 Our cats actually love sleeping in cages.  After we've introduced a new cat
 and open the cage to let it join the others, before we have a chance to
 remove it, as many cats as possible squeeze into them...once I counted 8
 cats and took a picture!
 
  
 
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lee Evans
 Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2011 7:52 AM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in a house on fire
 
  
 
 Have you ever tried stuffing cats into pillow cases?  I have 15 cats in the
 mobile home.  I can't imagine stuffing 15 pillow cases with 15 cats and
 actually living to tell the story.  Good idea if you have less than 5
 though.  Don't forget something to tie up the tops and just for safety,
 double case each cat if there's time.  Oh, just build a house out of cement
 blocks and have stainless steel furniture.  Cook outside, at least 50 feet
 from the house and keep several dozen fire extinguishers around in case of
 emergency.  Now having a full blown panic attack.
 
 
 
  
 
 From: Peggy Verdonck-Riley jetalitosunnys...@gmail.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
 Sent: Saturday, December 3, 2011 10:43 AM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in a house on fire
 
 Pillow cases, that's great advise if you can't get to the carriers fast
 enough! Never thought of that. Will work for our ferret too!
 
 *runs to the store to get 10 new pillow cases, just in case* ;-)
 
 2011/12/2 GRAS g...@optonline.net
 
 My father even burned his corneas trying to save the cats (was OK in the
 long run). And as it turned out later, he was actually running on a
 wall-to-wall carpet with no floor under it anymoreBut he still kept
 trying.  Another great idea is to use  pillowcases in any emergency - that's
 always around!
 BTW - horses do the same when a barn is on fire; they run back.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lorrie
 Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 5:40 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in a house on fire
 
 What a terrible story!
 
 This is a lesson I learned from a friend of mine.  Her house was on fire and
 she grabbed her cat and took him outside but he ran back inside and died in
 the fire.  God forbid any of you ever have to rescue your cats from a
 burning house, but cats will always run back inside because this is the
 place they feel safe.  Always put your cats in carriers or in your car
 outside your home.  With 13 cats this would have been terribly difficult for
 your parents, but if there are only one or two cats this can be done.
 
 Lorrie
 
 On 12-02, GRAS wrote:
  In 1964, my parents' house in Chicago had a fire on a night of a huge
  snowstorm, 3'!  The fire department had a hard time getting there
  because side street were not plowed, especially not at 3 AM. They had
  13 cats, and I had just moved back with my two cats because I
  couldn't afford my apartment closer to school. All the cats died in
  the fire, although my father was running around, grabbing them and
  putting them on an enclosed porch, they all ran back as he opened the
  door.When the house was rebuilt, a cat was found in the basement
  ceiling/rafters, completely soft and pliable (not stiff!) - poor cats
  most probably died from smoke inhalation because they have such tiny
 lungs.
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in a house on fire

2011-12-04 Thread dlgegg
YES, WHAT IS A FIRE SUPRESSION SYSTEM?   fIRE Alarms are better than nothing, 
but do'thelp if you are ot home.  Also, I live in a rural area and would have 
to wait for all the guys to get their from their home, work or in from the 
field when they are farming.  Something that would supprss the fire would be 
great!

 GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote: 
 What's a fire suppression system?
 
 We have fire alarm.but that's no good when we're not at home, other than to
 get the FD here..
 
  
 
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of ebony katt
 Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2011 8:38 AM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in a house on fire
 
  
 
 I had a fire suppression system installed in my home.  Relatively
 inexpensive for the peace it gives me with my four legged friends. 
 
 On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 6:52 AM, Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 Have you ever tried stuffing cats into pillow cases?  I have 15 cats in the
 mobile home.  I can't imagine stuffing 15 pillow cases with 15 cats and
 actually living to tell the story.  Good idea if you have less than 5
 though.  Don't forget something to tie up the tops and just for safety,
 double case each cat if there's time.  Oh, just build a house out of cement
 blocks and have stainless steel furniture.  Cook outside, at least 50 feet
 from the house and keep several dozen fire extinguishers around in case of
 emergency.  Now having a full blown panic attack.
 
  
 
 From: Peggy Verdonck-Riley jetalitosunnys...@gmail.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
 Sent: Saturday, December 3, 2011 10:43 AM
 
 
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in a house on fire
 
  
 
 Pillow cases, that's great advise if you can't get to the carriers fast
 enough! Never thought of that. Will work for our ferret too!
 
 *runs to the store to get 10 new pillow cases, just in case* ;-)
 
 2011/12/2 GRAS g...@optonline.net
 
 My father even burned his corneas trying to save the cats (was OK in the
 long run). And as it turned out later, he was actually running on a
 wall-to-wall carpet with no floor under it anymoreBut he still kept
 trying.  Another great idea is to use  pillowcases in any emergency - that's
 always around!
 BTW - horses do the same when a barn is on fire; they run back.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lorrie
 Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 5:40 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in a house on fire
 
 What a terrible story!
 
 This is a lesson I learned from a friend of mine.  Her house was on fire and
 she grabbed her cat and took him outside but he ran back inside and died in
 the fire.  God forbid any of you ever have to rescue your cats from a
 burning house, but cats will always run back inside because this is the
 place they feel safe.  Always put your cats in carriers or in your car
 outside your home.  With 13 cats this would have been terribly difficult for
 your parents, but if there are only one or two cats this can be done.
 
 Lorrie
 
 On 12-02, GRAS wrote:
  In 1964, my parents' house in Chicago had a fire on a night of a huge
  snowstorm, 3'!  The fire department had a hard time getting there
  because side street were not plowed, especially not at 3 AM. They had
  13 cats, and I had just moved back with my two cats because I
  couldn't afford my apartment closer to school. All the cats died in
  the fire, although my father was running around, grabbing them and
  putting them on an enclosed porch, they all ran back as he opened the
  door.When the house was rebuilt, a cat was found in the basement
  ceiling/rafters, completely soft and pliable (not stiff!) - poor cats
  most probably died from smoke inhalation because they have such tiny
 lungs.
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in a house on fire

2011-12-03 Thread GRAS
Anytime I'm out, and am driving home and hear a fire engine going up our
road, I have this horrible thought that it's our house...but, since both my
husband's family and my family had a house fore, what are the chances for
another one?

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
dlg...@windstream.net
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 10:54 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in a house on fire

I had not thought about what if I were not home.  That is enough to make me
never leave home again!

 Peggy Verdonck-Riley jetalitosunnys...@gmail.com wrote: 
 My biggest fear with 9 cats! Luckely we have an enclosed cat 
 playground outside. We can just push them out the cat door in the 
 window and lock it behind them.
 I just hope something like that never happens when we aren't home!
 
 On Dec 2, 2011 4:34 PM, Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote:
 
  What a terrible story!
 
  This is a lesson I learned from a friend of mine.  Her house was on 
  fire and she grabbed her cat and took him outside but he ran back 
  inside and died in the fire.  God forbid any of you ever have to 
  rescue your cats from a burning house, but cats will always run back 
  inside because this is the place they feel safe.  Always put your 
  cats in carriers or in your car outside your home.  With 13 cats 
  this would have been terribly difficult for your parents, but if 
  there are only one or two cats this can be done.
 
  Lorrie
 
  On 12-02, GRAS wrote:
   In 1964, my parents' house in Chicago had a fire on a night of a 
   huge snowstorm, 3'!  The fire department had a hard time getting 
   there because side street were not plowed, especially not at 3 AM. 
   They had 13 cats,
  and I
   had just moved back with my two cats because I couldn't afford 
   my apartment closer to school. All the cats died in the fire, 
   although my father was running around, grabbing them and putting 
   them on an enclosed porch, they all ran back as he opened the 
   door.When the house was rebuilt, a cat was found in the 
   basement ceiling/rafters, completely soft and pliable (not stiff!) 
   - poor cats most probably died from smoke inhalation because they have
such tiny lungs.
  
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in a house on fire

2011-12-03 Thread Lynda Wilson

Amen!


- Original Message - 
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To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 9:52 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in a house on fire


I don't even want to think about something like that happening.  It would 
be so hard to be alive and my babies dead. Just thinking about it gives me 
shivers. I would go back in until all were out.  I have a plan, carriers 
for all 7 and I have an Astro van which will easily hold all of us.  I 
would hate to loose my possessions, but they can bereplaced and my first 
concern is my babies.  Hope this never happens to anyone else again.



 GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote:

My father even burned his corneas trying to save the cats (was OK in the
long run). And as it turned out later, he was actually running on a
wall-to-wall carpet with no floor under it anymoreBut he still kept
trying.  Another great idea is to use  pillowcases in any emergency - 
that's

always around!
BTW - horses do the same when a barn is on fire; they run back.

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lorrie
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 5:40 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in a house on fire

What a terrible story!

This is a lesson I learned from a friend of mine.  Her house was on fire 
and
she grabbed her cat and took him outside but he ran back inside and died 
in

the fire.  God forbid any of you ever have to rescue your cats from a
burning house, but cats will always run back inside because this is the
place they feel safe.  Always put your cats in carriers or in your car
outside your home.  With 13 cats this would have been terribly difficult 
for

your parents, but if there are only one or two cats this can be done.

Lorrie

On 12-02, GRAS wrote:
 In 1964, my parents' house in Chicago had a fire on a night of a huge
 snowstorm, 3'!  The fire department had a hard time getting there
 because side street were not plowed, especially not at 3 AM. They had
 13 cats, and I had just moved back with my two cats because I
 couldn't afford my apartment closer to school. All the cats died in
 the fire, although my father was running around, grabbing them and
 putting them on an enclosed porch, they all ran back as he opened the
 door.When the house was rebuilt, a cat was found in the basement
 ceiling/rafters, completely soft and pliable (not stiff!) - poor cats
 most probably died from smoke inhalation because they have such tiny
lungs.


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Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in a house on fire

2011-12-03 Thread Peggy Verdonck-Riley
My husband parents, and his grand parents house burned down to the ground.
And because of that I'm terrified it will happen to us too. I keep saying
it runs in the family! But I should think the way you think, what is the
chance of another one! Thank you :-)

2011/12/3 GRAS g...@optonline.net

 Anytime I'm out, and am driving home and hear a fire engine going up our
 road, I have this horrible thought that it's our house...but, since both my
 husband's family and my family had a house fore, what are the chances for
 another one?

 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
 dlg...@windstream.net
 Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 10:54 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in a house on fire

  I had not thought about what if I were not home.  That is enough to make
 me
 never leave home again!

  Peggy Verdonck-Riley jetalitosunnys...@gmail.com wrote:
  My biggest fear with 9 cats! Luckely we have an enclosed cat
  playground outside. We can just push them out the cat door in the
  window and lock it behind them.
  I just hope something like that never happens when we aren't home!
 
  On Dec 2, 2011 4:34 PM, Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote:
 
   What a terrible story!
  
   This is a lesson I learned from a friend of mine.  Her house was on
   fire and she grabbed her cat and took him outside but he ran back
   inside and died in the fire.  God forbid any of you ever have to
   rescue your cats from a burning house, but cats will always run back
   inside because this is the place they feel safe.  Always put your
   cats in carriers or in your car outside your home.  With 13 cats
   this would have been terribly difficult for your parents, but if
   there are only one or two cats this can be done.
  
   Lorrie
  
   On 12-02, GRAS wrote:
In 1964, my parents' house in Chicago had a fire on a night of a
huge snowstorm, 3'!  The fire department had a hard time getting
there because side street were not plowed, especially not at 3 AM.
They had 13 cats,
   and I
had just moved back with my two cats because I couldn't afford
my apartment closer to school. All the cats died in the fire,
although my father was running around, grabbing them and putting
them on an enclosed porch, they all ran back as he opened the
door.When the house was rebuilt, a cat was found in the
basement ceiling/rafters, completely soft and pliable (not stiff!)
- poor cats most probably died from smoke inhalation because they
 have
 such tiny lungs.
   
  
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Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in a house on fire

2011-12-03 Thread Peggy Verdonck-Riley
Pillow cases, that's great advise if you can't get to the carriers fast
enough! Never thought of that. Will work for our ferret too!
*runs to the store to get 10 new pillow cases, just in case* ;-)

2011/12/2 GRAS g...@optonline.net

 My father even burned his corneas trying to save the cats (was OK in the
 long run). And as it turned out later, he was actually running on a
 wall-to-wall carpet with no floor under it anymoreBut he still kept
 trying.  Another great idea is to use  pillowcases in any emergency -
 that's
 always around!
 BTW - horses do the same when a barn is on fire; they run back.

 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lorrie
 Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 5:40 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in a house on fire

 What a terrible story!

 This is a lesson I learned from a friend of mine.  Her house was on fire
 and
 she grabbed her cat and took him outside but he ran back inside and died in
 the fire.  God forbid any of you ever have to rescue your cats from a
 burning house, but cats will always run back inside because this is the
 place they feel safe.  Always put your cats in carriers or in your car
 outside your home.  With 13 cats this would have been terribly difficult
 for
 your parents, but if there are only one or two cats this can be done.

 Lorrie

 On 12-02, GRAS wrote:
  In 1964, my parents' house in Chicago had a fire on a night of a huge
  snowstorm, 3'!  The fire department had a hard time getting there
  because side street were not plowed, especially not at 3 AM. They had
  13 cats, and I had just moved back with my two cats because I
  couldn't afford my apartment closer to school. All the cats died in
  the fire, although my father was running around, grabbing them and
  putting them on an enclosed porch, they all ran back as he opened the
  door.When the house was rebuilt, a cat was found in the basement
  ceiling/rafters, completely soft and pliable (not stiff!) - poor cats
  most probably died from smoke inhalation because they have such tiny
 lungs.
 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in a house on fire

2011-12-03 Thread dlgegg
Been there too.  I get this sinking feeling and speed up so I can get home to 
my babies.  God what would I do if I pulled up behind fire engines.  I know one 
thing for sure, I would be in the house befoe they could stop me.  The only 
thing they could do is follow and help me get them out.

 GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote: 
 Anytime I'm out, and am driving home and hear a fire engine going up our
 road, I have this horrible thought that it's our house...but, since both my
 husband's family and my family had a house fore, what are the chances for
 another one?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
 dlg...@windstream.net
 Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 10:54 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in a house on fire
 
 I had not thought about what if I were not home.  That is enough to make me
 never leave home again!
 
  Peggy Verdonck-Riley jetalitosunnys...@gmail.com wrote: 
  My biggest fear with 9 cats! Luckely we have an enclosed cat 
  playground outside. We can just push them out the cat door in the 
  window and lock it behind them.
  I just hope something like that never happens when we aren't home!
  
  On Dec 2, 2011 4:34 PM, Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote:
  
   What a terrible story!
  
   This is a lesson I learned from a friend of mine.  Her house was on 
   fire and she grabbed her cat and took him outside but he ran back 
   inside and died in the fire.  God forbid any of you ever have to 
   rescue your cats from a burning house, but cats will always run back 
   inside because this is the place they feel safe.  Always put your 
   cats in carriers or in your car outside your home.  With 13 cats 
   this would have been terribly difficult for your parents, but if 
   there are only one or two cats this can be done.
  
   Lorrie
  
   On 12-02, GRAS wrote:
In 1964, my parents' house in Chicago had a fire on a night of a 
huge snowstorm, 3'!  The fire department had a hard time getting 
there because side street were not plowed, especially not at 3 AM. 
They had 13 cats,
   and I
had just moved back with my two cats because I couldn't afford 
my apartment closer to school. All the cats died in the fire, 
although my father was running around, grabbing them and putting 
them on an enclosed porch, they all ran back as he opened the 
door.When the house was rebuilt, a cat was found in the 
basement ceiling/rafters, completely soft and pliable (not stiff!) 
- poor cats most probably died from smoke inhalation because they have
 such tiny lungs.
   
  
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Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in a house on fire

2011-12-02 Thread Lorrie
What a terrible story!

This is a lesson I learned from a friend of mine.  Her house was on
fire and she grabbed her cat and took him outside but he ran back
inside and died in the fire.  God forbid any of you ever have to
rescue your cats from a burning house, but cats will always run back
inside because this is the place they feel safe.  Always put your
cats in carriers or in your car outside your home.  With 13 cats this
would have been terribly difficult for your parents, but if there are
only one or two cats this can be done.

Lorrie

On 12-02, GRAS wrote:
 In 1964, my parents' house in Chicago had a fire on a night of a huge
 snowstorm, 3'!  The fire department had a hard time getting there because
 side street were not plowed, especially not at 3 AM. They had 13 cats, and I
 had just moved back with my two cats because I couldn't afford my
 apartment closer to school. All the cats died in the fire, although my
 father was running around, grabbing them and putting them on an enclosed
 porch, they all ran back as he opened the door.When the house was
 rebuilt, a cat was found in the basement ceiling/rafters, completely soft
 and pliable (not stiff!) - poor cats most probably died from smoke
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Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in a house on fire

2011-12-02 Thread Peggy Verdonck-Riley
My biggest fear with 9 cats! Luckely we have an enclosed cat playground
outside. We can just push them out the cat door in the window and lock it
behind them.
I just hope something like that never happens when we aren't home!

On Dec 2, 2011 4:34 PM, Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote:

 What a terrible story!

 This is a lesson I learned from a friend of mine.  Her house was on
 fire and she grabbed her cat and took him outside but he ran back
 inside and died in the fire.  God forbid any of you ever have to
 rescue your cats from a burning house, but cats will always run back
 inside because this is the place they feel safe.  Always put your
 cats in carriers or in your car outside your home.  With 13 cats this
 would have been terribly difficult for your parents, but if there are
 only one or two cats this can be done.

 Lorrie

 On 12-02, GRAS wrote:
  In 1964, my parents' house in Chicago had a fire on a night of a huge
  snowstorm, 3'!  The fire department had a hard time getting there because
  side street were not plowed, especially not at 3 AM. They had 13 cats,
 and I
  had just moved back with my two cats because I couldn't afford my
  apartment closer to school. All the cats died in the fire, although my
  father was running around, grabbing them and putting them on an enclosed
  porch, they all ran back as he opened the door.When the house was
  rebuilt, a cat was found in the basement ceiling/rafters, completely soft
  and pliable (not stiff!) - poor cats most probably died from smoke
  inhalation because they have such tiny lungs.
 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in a house on fire

2011-12-02 Thread GRAS
My father even burned his corneas trying to save the cats (was OK in the
long run). And as it turned out later, he was actually running on a
wall-to-wall carpet with no floor under it anymoreBut he still kept
trying.  Another great idea is to use  pillowcases in any emergency - that's
always around!
BTW - horses do the same when a barn is on fire; they run back.

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lorrie
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 5:40 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in a house on fire

What a terrible story!

This is a lesson I learned from a friend of mine.  Her house was on fire and
she grabbed her cat and took him outside but he ran back inside and died in
the fire.  God forbid any of you ever have to rescue your cats from a
burning house, but cats will always run back inside because this is the
place they feel safe.  Always put your cats in carriers or in your car
outside your home.  With 13 cats this would have been terribly difficult for
your parents, but if there are only one or two cats this can be done.

Lorrie

On 12-02, GRAS wrote:
 In 1964, my parents' house in Chicago had a fire on a night of a huge 
 snowstorm, 3'!  The fire department had a hard time getting there 
 because side street were not plowed, especially not at 3 AM. They had 
 13 cats, and I had just moved back with my two cats because I 
 couldn't afford my apartment closer to school. All the cats died in 
 the fire, although my father was running around, grabbing them and 
 putting them on an enclosed porch, they all ran back as he opened the 
 door.When the house was rebuilt, a cat was found in the basement 
 ceiling/rafters, completely soft and pliable (not stiff!) - poor cats 
 most probably died from smoke inhalation because they have such tiny
lungs.
 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in a house on fire

2011-12-02 Thread Susan Hoffman
We had a house fire in 2007.  I threw a couple of cats out the back door before 
running out the front myself.  Those cats actually came back in the house!

We were lucky.  The fire department put the fire out before the floor 
combusted.  (The fire started in the basement underneath us.)  All the cats ran 
to the front of the house and hid under the sofa and loveseat.  No one was 
killed in the fire.  We were so lucky.

--- On Fri, 12/2/11, GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote:

 From: GRAS g...@optonline.net
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in a house on fire
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Friday, December 2, 2011, 3:04 PM
 My father even burned his corneas
 trying to save the cats (was OK in the
 long run). And as it turned out later, he was actually
 running on a
 wall-to-wall carpet with no floor under it anymoreBut
 he still kept
 trying.  Another great idea is to use 
 pillowcases in any emergency - that's
 always around!
 BTW - horses do the same when a barn is on fire; they run
 back.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org]
 On Behalf Of Lorrie
 Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 5:40 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in a house on fire
 
 What a terrible story!
 
 This is a lesson I learned from a friend of mine.  Her
 house was on fire and
 she grabbed her cat and took him outside but he ran back
 inside and died in
 the fire.  God forbid any of you ever have to rescue
 your cats from a
 burning house, but cats will always run back inside because
 this is the
 place they feel safe.  Always put your cats in
 carriers or in your car
 outside your home.  With 13 cats this would have been
 terribly difficult for
 your parents, but if there are only one or two cats this
 can be done.
 
 Lorrie
 
 On 12-02, GRAS wrote:
  In 1964, my parents' house in Chicago had a fire on a
 night of a huge 
  snowstorm, 3'!  The fire department had a hard
 time getting there 
  because side street were not plowed, especially not at
 3 AM. They had 
  13 cats, and I had just moved back with my two cats
 because I 
  couldn't afford my apartment closer to school. All the
 cats died in 
  the fire, although my father was running around,
 grabbing them and 
  putting them on an enclosed porch, they all ran back
 as he opened the 
  door.When the house was rebuilt, a cat was found
 in the basement 
  ceiling/rafters, completely soft and pliable (not
 stiff!) - poor cats 
  most probably died from smoke inhalation because they
 have such tiny
 lungs.
  
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in a house on fire

2011-12-02 Thread dlgegg
I don't even want to think about something like that happening.  It would be so 
hard to be alive and my babies dead. Just thinking about it gives me shivers. I 
would go back in until all were out.  I have a plan, carriers for all 7 and I 
have an Astro van which will easily hold all of us.  I would hate to loose my 
possessions, but they can bereplaced and my first concern is my babies.  Hope 
this never happens to anyone else again.


 GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote: 
 My father even burned his corneas trying to save the cats (was OK in the
 long run). And as it turned out later, he was actually running on a
 wall-to-wall carpet with no floor under it anymoreBut he still kept
 trying.  Another great idea is to use  pillowcases in any emergency - that's
 always around!
 BTW - horses do the same when a barn is on fire; they run back.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lorrie
 Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 5:40 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in a house on fire
 
 What a terrible story!
 
 This is a lesson I learned from a friend of mine.  Her house was on fire and
 she grabbed her cat and took him outside but he ran back inside and died in
 the fire.  God forbid any of you ever have to rescue your cats from a
 burning house, but cats will always run back inside because this is the
 place they feel safe.  Always put your cats in carriers or in your car
 outside your home.  With 13 cats this would have been terribly difficult for
 your parents, but if there are only one or two cats this can be done.
 
 Lorrie
 
 On 12-02, GRAS wrote:
  In 1964, my parents' house in Chicago had a fire on a night of a huge 
  snowstorm, 3'!  The fire department had a hard time getting there 
  because side street were not plowed, especially not at 3 AM. They had 
  13 cats, and I had just moved back with my two cats because I 
  couldn't afford my apartment closer to school. All the cats died in 
  the fire, although my father was running around, grabbing them and 
  putting them on an enclosed porch, they all ran back as he opened the 
  door.When the house was rebuilt, a cat was found in the basement 
  ceiling/rafters, completely soft and pliable (not stiff!) - poor cats 
  most probably died from smoke inhalation because they have such tiny
 lungs.
  
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in a house on fire

2011-12-02 Thread dlgegg
I had not thought about what if I were not home.  That is enough to make me 
never leave home again!

 Peggy Verdonck-Riley jetalitosunnys...@gmail.com wrote: 
 My biggest fear with 9 cats! Luckely we have an enclosed cat playground
 outside. We can just push them out the cat door in the window and lock it
 behind them.
 I just hope something like that never happens when we aren't home!
 
 On Dec 2, 2011 4:34 PM, Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote:
 
  What a terrible story!
 
  This is a lesson I learned from a friend of mine.  Her house was on
  fire and she grabbed her cat and took him outside but he ran back
  inside and died in the fire.  God forbid any of you ever have to
  rescue your cats from a burning house, but cats will always run back
  inside because this is the place they feel safe.  Always put your
  cats in carriers or in your car outside your home.  With 13 cats this
  would have been terribly difficult for your parents, but if there are
  only one or two cats this can be done.
 
  Lorrie
 
  On 12-02, GRAS wrote:
   In 1964, my parents' house in Chicago had a fire on a night of a huge
   snowstorm, 3'!  The fire department had a hard time getting there because
   side street were not plowed, especially not at 3 AM. They had 13 cats,
  and I
   had just moved back with my two cats because I couldn't afford my
   apartment closer to school. All the cats died in the fire, although my
   father was running around, grabbing them and putting them on an enclosed
   porch, they all ran back as he opened the door.When the house was
   rebuilt, a cat was found in the basement ceiling/rafters, completely soft
   and pliable (not stiff!) - poor cats most probably died from smoke
   inhalation because they have such tiny lungs.
  
 
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