[Felvtalk] Charlie
I am so very sorry for your loss of Charlie. This horrid disease takes our babies much, much too young. We lost our Solo, exactly the same way, and while I mourned his loss, I was also glad that he went quickly. He too was semi-feral and did not do well at the vet's office. My keyboard has survived way too many tears too. leslie the furballs -Original Message- From: felvtalk-request felvtalk-requ...@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sat, Jul 5, 2014 1:00 pm Subject: Felvtalk Digest, Vol 4, Issue 1 Send Felvtalk mailing list submissions to felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to felvtalk-requ...@felineleukemia.org You can reach the person managing the list at felvtalk-ow...@felineleukemia.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Felvtalk digest... Today's Topics: 1. charlies passing (michael devitt) 2. Re: charlies passing (dlg...@windstream.net) 3. Re: charlies passing (Katherine K.) -- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2014 14:25:04 -0700 From: michael devitt villagem48...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] charlies passing Message-ID: 1404509104.50150.yahoomail...@web125506.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii hi everyone i have been on the list for awhile not sure why but i had to tell somebody about my charlie a stray i taken in almost 3yrs now he tested felv+ when i had him neutered he turned out to be a big black and white cat that loved to terrorize my 2 other males 2 wks ago he wasnt finishing his meals which is strange he loved to eat i also noticed him being a little more lethargic the humid days really bothered him he had a uri last summer that made him sick for about a wk i thought that was happening again then he started having breathing problems breathing with his mouth open got worse he was losing weight took to vet which was not easy since he is very scared of people being semi-feral he really stressed out vet told to take him to emergency vet once there they got him in an O2 tank he was not responding to treatment they inubated him so they could take x-rays his lungs were full of fluid and i made the decision to let him go i still cant believe he went that fast just the wk before he was outside chasing june bugs and terrorizing my other 2 guys this disease is brutal in that it took a robust big 3yr old beloved cat so quick thanks for listening got teardrops dripping on keyboard got to go -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://felineleukemia.org/pipermail/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org/attachments/20140704/007cc9a2/attachment-0001.html -- Message: 2 Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2014 16:56:31 -0500 From: dlg...@windstream.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org, michael devitt villagem48...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] charlies passing Message-ID: 20140704175631.O5WHY.4031.root@pamxwww07-z01 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 It is good that he went so fast, he did not suffer long. After loosing over 12 cats in recent years, it does not make any difference if it is fast or slow, you still miss them and it takes a while to get over their lose. michael devitt villagem48...@yahoo.com wrote: hi everyone i have been on the list for awhile not sure why but i had to tell somebody about my charlie a stray i taken in almost 3yrs now he tested felv+ when i had him neutered he turned out to be a big black and white cat that loved to terrorize my 2 other males 2 wks ago he wasnt finishing his meals which is strange he loved to eat i also noticed him being a little more lethargic the humid days really bothered him he had a uri last summer that made him sick for about a wk i thought that was happening again then he started having breathing problems breathing with his mouth open got worse he was losing weight took to vet which was not easy since he is very scared of people being semi-feral he really stressed out vet told to take him to emergency vet once there they got him in an O2 tank he was not responding to treatment they inubated him so they could take x-rays his lungs were full of fluid and i made the decision to let him go i still cant believe he went that fast just the wk before he was outside chasing june bugs and terrorizing my other 2 guys this disease is brutal in that it took a robust big 3yr old beloved cat so quick thanks for listening got teardrops dripping on keyboard got to go -- Message: 3 Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2014 19:04:28 -0400 From: Katherine K.
Re: [Felvtalk] Charlie
I have learned that I have to be diligent, take note of every little difference in behavior of my cats and myself. With the last 3 who have passed, vets missed dehydration, urinary tract infections, things that were so obvious and yet they were missed because the vet was obsessed with leukemia or other cancer. So obsessed that they could not see the trees for the forest. I have had more success with an herbal salve both for myself and my cats. Casey's tumor in her mouth was dying from the tonic, but she died because the vet did not think she was dehydrated enough for me to continue giving her fluids every day. 1 week later, she died of dehydration and severe constipation Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi - Hope you get this message. Stay away from bone marrow biopsies and anything else that is invasive. Sounds like Charlie may be trying to fight off the leukemia which may have been latent in his body. Many cats, especially adult cats do turn from positive to negative. The fact that he had a fever and high white count is a sign that his body is doing the right thing to try to combat some type of infection. I have had three cats who turned negative. Unfortunately, one who was just a year and a half turned back to positive for FeLv and then the disease went active. She survived for only two weeks. Poor Bunny. But Moses has been negative for about 7 years from the time I rescued him and he tested positive. I kept him isolated from the other cats for two months and then retested. He was negative and stayed that way. Percy was positive for both FeLv and FIV but turned negative for FeLv and is still negative after four years. I have also had the misery of rescuing two cats who were leukemia positive and never turned negative and lasted two years with me before they went down quickly, all in a couple of weeks. If Charlie is still hanging in there, it may either be that he is fighting off the infection or fighting off another infection. Tests are not going to do much to increase his health. If he is happy and acting normal, leave him be for the time being. You can give him 1000mcg of B12 - little pink pill crushed into his cat food. It does wonders for cats and humans. I saved the life of our office cat, Franny, who lived to be 17 years old after a bout of hepatic lipidosis during which she went from 15 pounds to 7 pounds in the course of a month. Fortunately, I noticed that all the fur had no substance under it and rushed her to the vet where they gave her a 40% chance to live. I syringe fed her for a month, mixing the 1000mcg tablet of B-12 with a jar of baby food chicken every day as her supplement and then a blended can of Iams chicken cat food daily. Lots of work but had a live cat afterwards. On Tuesday, June 17, 2014 3:34 PM, Margo toomanykitti...@earthlink.net wrote: Dear Emily, I'm sorry, I'm not getting the emails for some reason, didn't see this until it was tagged on dlgegg's answer. Have you considered ImmunoRegulin, or Interferon? DMG? I have two positive cats on Interferon, and ImmunoRegulin at the Vet's office in case of a crash (knock on wood we never need it.) http://www.felineleukemia.org/ireginfo.html I used Zeniquin instead of Baytril when Gribble first crashed, but it's the same family. I would continue that, if the Vet is willing. NO STEROIDS, please. The last thing you want to do is immune suppress an immuno-compromised cat. Since he's doing well, I would start him on Interferon and DMG. Can't hurt, might help. Seemed to work for my guys. Good luck, let us know how it goes. Best to Charlie Margo Hi everyone, I'm looking for some help in determining next steps for our cat Charlie. We adopted our beloved Charlie three years ago from a shelter. He is now about four years old. We found out in December while doing routine tests that he has feline leukemia (at the time trying to figure out the cause of his IBS- switching his food ended up doing the trick). We were quite surprised- at the time the only symptom that matched were his gums were relatively inflamed. At the end of March / beginning of April Charlie became ill. He lost weight and became lethargic. He kept eating but needed me to keep bringing his food to him in order for him to eat. He underwent different tests- the xrays/blood tests showed that his organs were fine. There was however some bacteria in his urine and so we thought it might be an infection. He also had a slight fever and his white blood cell count was low. We tried him on an injectable antibiotic initially which didn't help, but then switched him to Baytril to which he has responded really well. Charlie started to become sick again once he finished his first round of Baytril, and so we put him back on the antibiotic. He also underwent more tests- this time there was no bacteria
[Felvtalk] Charlie
Dear Emily, I'm sorry, I'm not getting the emails for some reason, didn't see this until it was tagged on dlgegg's answer. Have you considered ImmunoRegulin, or Interferon? DMG? I have two positive cats on Interferon, and ImmunoRegulin at the Vet's office in case of a crash (knock on wood we never need it.) http://www.felineleukemia.org/ireginfo.html I used Zeniquin instead of Baytril when Gribble first crashed, but it's the same family. I would continue that, if the Vet is willing. NO STEROIDS, please. The last thing you want to do is immune suppress an immuno-compromised cat. Since he's doing well, I would start him on Interferon and DMG. Can't hurt, might help. Seemed to work for my guys. Good luck, let us know how it goes. Best to Charlie Margo Hi everyone, I'm looking for some help in determining next steps for our cat Charlie. We adopted our beloved Charlie three years ago from a shelter. He is now about four years old. We found out in December while doing routine tests that he has feline leukemia (at the time trying to figure out the cause of his IBS- switching his food ended up doing the trick). We were quite surprised- at the time the only symptom that matched were his gums were relatively inflamed. At the end of March / beginning of April Charlie became ill. He lost weight and became lethargic. He kept eating but needed me to keep bringing his food to him in order for him to eat. He underwent different tests- the xrays/blood tests showed that his organs were fine. There was however some bacteria in his urine and so we thought it might be an infection. He also had a slight fever and his white blood cell count was low. We tried him on an injectable antibiotic initially which didn't help, but then switched him to Baytril to which he has responded really well. Charlie started to become sick again once he finished his first round of Baytril, and so we put him back on the antibiotic. He also underwent more tests- this time there was no bacteria in his urine but his white blood cell count was still low. Since this time he has stayed on Baytril (we tried him on a stronger antibiotic but he couldn't stomach it and so we stayed put). Charlie for the past few weeks has seemed incredibly well. He is vibrant, affectionate, and he eats incredibly well (he's even put on a pound). However, his white blood cell count is plummeting. He went from a 3.1 on April 2nd, to a 2.7 on May 27th, to 1.8 on June 13th. At this point it seems as though this isn't the result of an infection, but the progression of his leukemia. Our vet has presented us with some options moving forward but I'm not sure of what we should do. What's challenging is that he is so happy and vibrant right now. We're really afraid of doing anything that might compromise that. He is his happy little cheeky self and we are making the most of every moment. Our vet has suggested a series of tests (more blood, xray, urine, bone marrow) and they don't seem like our best option. Some are really invasive-like a bone marrow biopsy-and incredibly costly. We've maxed out all our credit options paying for Charlie's treatments so far, and there is only so much more we can do. Our vet has also suggested that we try putting him on steroids to see if that boosts his white blood cell count. She mentioned however that if this is an aggressive infection (and not the progression of his leukemia) the steroid could worsen it. She hinted that this is an option that she would at least try. At this point we don't have much to lose, but again we don't want to compromise any quality time we do have with Charlie. Our other option is to just keep him on the Baytril, and let things run their course. We could also wait and put him on the steroid once things worsen. I'd really appreciate any insights anyone can provide. This has been harder than I ever could have imagined. We've fallen so hard for this little guy and it's just been one heartbreaking visit to the vet after another. Thank you in advance. Emily ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Charlie
Hi Emily, I’m very sorry to hear that you and Charlie are going through this. Most of us have been there. I remember all too well how anxiety-inducing the vet visits could be at times. I don’t know that I’ve ever been that acutely scared in my life. **NOTE: None of us are vets. What you’ll read below are my opinions and thoughts based on personal experiences with my FeLV+ girl, reading the list, reading other material online, and talking with various vets.** I was surprised to read that the vet wanted to try steroids to stimulate wbc. That is exactly what you don’t want to do. Prednisone will lower wbc according to my research and my very trustworthy vet. I would not biopsy Charlie’s bone marrow. I don’t see how that could do any good. I think we considered something like that once and promptly vetoed it. I would consider doing a chest x-ray to verify that something isn’t going on there. Typically, a cat will show respiratory symptoms with mediastinal lymphoma, but there are odd cases where that might not happen. My Ember, a 12 year old FeLV+ at the time of her passing, developed odd breathing, pale membranes, and plummeting wbc. Chest x-rays showed something that was likely mediastinal lymphoma. We weren’t sure, but Ember had hardly eaten for four days and clearly did not feel well, and I was not going to let her suffer while we took her out of state to be diagnosed and staged. I just didn’t have the time to do more. Margo’s recommendations are good ones. ImmunoRegulin, interferon, and DMG are affordable treatments. Unfortunately, they are not guaranteed to work. DMG and ImmunoRegulin do not require a prescription, but interferon does, and interferon will probably need to be dispatched to you by an animal pharmacy like Road Runner in Phoenix, AZ. I was very happy with their service. DMG is probably the mildest treatment of the three. I would consider it if you can get Charlie’s wbc stabilized. DMG would be unlikely to rock the boat (I am *very* sympathetic to that concern). So… I would consider a chest x-ray, and if that doesn’t seem to show mediastinal lymphoma, I would consider ImmunoRegulin or interferon alpha. We can help you with information about those treatments if you need it. If you’re in an urban area, I would look into getting a second opinion or at least a quick 15 minute call in with another vet who has lots of experience with cats and infectious diseases. Again, I’m very sorry. Best hopes for Charlie, including a rebound in wbc. Lance On Jun 17, 2014, at 3:34 PM, Margo toomanykitti...@earthlink.net wrote: Dear Emily, I'm sorry, I'm not getting the emails for some reason, didn't see this until it was tagged on dlgegg's answer. Have you considered ImmunoRegulin, or Interferon? DMG? I have two positive cats on Interferon, and ImmunoRegulin at the Vet's office in case of a crash (knock on wood we never need it.) http://www.felineleukemia.org/ireginfo.html I used Zeniquin instead of Baytril when Gribble first crashed, but it's the same family. I would continue that, if the Vet is willing. NO STEROIDS, please. The last thing you want to do is immune suppress an immuno-compromised cat. Since he's doing well, I would start him on Interferon and DMG. Can't hurt, might help. Seemed to work for my guys. Good luck, let us know how it goes. Best to Charlie Margo Hi everyone, I'm looking for some help in determining next steps for our cat Charlie. We adopted our beloved Charlie three years ago from a shelter. He is now about four years old. We found out in December while doing routine tests that he has feline leukemia (at the time trying to figure out the cause of his IBS- switching his food ended up doing the trick). We were quite surprised- at the time the only symptom that matched were his gums were relatively inflamed. At the end of March / beginning of April Charlie became ill. He lost weight and became lethargic. He kept eating but needed me to keep bringing his food to him in order for him to eat. He underwent different tests- the xrays/blood tests showed that his organs were fine. There was however some bacteria in his urine and so we thought it might be an infection. He also had a slight fever and his white blood cell count was low. We tried him on an injectable antibiotic initially which didn't help, but then switched him to Baytril to which he has responded really well. Charlie started to become sick again once he finished his first round of Baytril, and so we put him back on the antibiotic. He also underwent more tests- this time there was no bacteria in his urine but his white blood cell count was still low. Since this time he has stayed on Baytril (we tried him on a stronger antibiotic but he couldn't stomach it and so we stayed put). Charlie for the past few weeks has seemed incredibly well. He is vibrant, affectionate, and he eats
Re: [Felvtalk] Charlie
Hi - Hope you get this message. Stay away from bone marrow biopsies and anything else that is invasive. Sounds like Charlie may be trying to fight off the leukemia which may have been latent in his body. Many cats, especially adult cats do turn from positive to negative. The fact that he had a fever and high white count is a sign that his body is doing the right thing to try to combat some type of infection. I have had three cats who turned negative. Unfortunately, one who was just a year and a half turned back to positive for FeLv and then the disease went active. She survived for only two weeks. Poor Bunny. But Moses has been negative for about 7 years from the time I rescued him and he tested positive. I kept him isolated from the other cats for two months and then retested. He was negative and stayed that way. Percy was positive for both FeLv and FIV but turned negative for FeLv and is still negative after four years. I have also had the misery of rescuing two cats who were leukemia positive and never turned negative and lasted two years with me before they went down quickly, all in a couple of weeks. If Charlie is still hanging in there, it may either be that he is fighting off the infection or fighting off another infection. Tests are not going to do much to increase his health. If he is happy and acting normal, leave him be for the time being. You can give him 1000mcg of B12 - little pink pill crushed into his cat food. It does wonders for cats and humans. I saved the life of our office cat, Franny, who lived to be 17 years old after a bout of hepatic lipidosis during which she went from 15 pounds to 7 pounds in the course of a month. Fortunately, I noticed that all the fur had no substance under it and rushed her to the vet where they gave her a 40% chance to live. I syringe fed her for a month, mixing the 1000mcg tablet of B-12 with a jar of baby food chicken every day as her supplement and then a blended can of Iams chicken cat food daily. Lots of work but had a live cat afterwards. On Tuesday, June 17, 2014 3:34 PM, Margo toomanykitti...@earthlink.net wrote: Dear Emily, I'm sorry, I'm not getting the emails for some reason, didn't see this until it was tagged on dlgegg's answer. Have you considered ImmunoRegulin, or Interferon? DMG? I have two positive cats on Interferon, and ImmunoRegulin at the Vet's office in case of a crash (knock on wood we never need it.) http://www.felineleukemia.org/ireginfo.html I used Zeniquin instead of Baytril when Gribble first crashed, but it's the same family. I would continue that, if the Vet is willing. NO STEROIDS, please. The last thing you want to do is immune suppress an immuno-compromised cat. Since he's doing well, I would start him on Interferon and DMG. Can't hurt, might help. Seemed to work for my guys. Good luck, let us know how it goes. Best to Charlie Margo Hi everyone, I'm looking for some help in determining next steps for our cat Charlie. We adopted our beloved Charlie three years ago from a shelter. He is now about four years old. We found out in December while doing routine tests that he has feline leukemia (at the time trying to figure out the cause of his IBS- switching his food ended up doing the trick). We were quite surprised- at the time the only symptom that matched were his gums were relatively inflamed. At the end of March / beginning of April Charlie became ill. He lost weight and became lethargic. He kept eating but needed me to keep bringing his food to him in order for him to eat. He underwent different tests- the xrays/blood tests showed that his organs were fine. There was however some bacteria in his urine and so we thought it might be an infection. He also had a slight fever and his white blood cell count was low. We tried him on an injectable antibiotic initially which didn't help, but then switched him to Baytril to which he has responded really well. Charlie started to become sick again once he finished his first round of Baytril, and so we put him back on the antibiotic. He also underwent more tests- this time there was no bacteria in his urine but his white blood cell count was still low. Since this time he has stayed on Baytril (we tried him on a stronger antibiotic but he couldn't stomach it and so we stayed put). Charlie for the past few weeks has seemed incredibly well. He is vibrant, affectionate, and he eats incredibly well (he's even put on a pound). However, his white blood cell count is plummeting. He went from a 3.1 on April 2nd, to a 2.7 on May 27th, to 1.8 on June 13th. At this point it seems as though this isn't the result of an infection, but the progression of his leukemia. Our vet has presented us with some options moving forward but I'm not sure of what we should do. What's challenging is that he is so happy and vibrant right now. We're
Re: [Felvtalk] charlie has a uri
-Original Message- From: michael devitt <villagem48...@yahoo.com>Sent: Jul 16, 2013 9:45 PM To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" <FELVTALK@FELINELEUKEMIA.ORG>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] charlie has a uri hi lorrie what i gave him was convenia yea i know controversial drug he seems to be improving not alot of sneezing or gagging like before still not eating he sleeping alot hasnt slept much the last few days with all the sneezing going on where did you get the doxycycline and he is +felv unable to pill him or spray a little saline up his nose tried and now he ducks away from me thanks for responding Very glad to hear hat Charlie is improving :) While I'm not usually a fan of drugs that are that long-lasting, I'm now admitting they have their place. Monday I picked up a kitten that had had a leg amputated, and was told she'd been given Convenia. I had specified No Metacam, but forgot to includeConvenia. I will admit I'm glad not to have to medicate this little Hellion on a daily basis. She may be only two pounds, but it's two pounds of squiggle g. I also found there is now a long-acting formm of buprenorphine, Buprenex SR. 72 hours. While I'd likely want try a single dose to gauge any reaction before giving that, I think it's a great option. Margo ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] charlie has a uri
Hi Mike, OK, if you know the bad side of Convenia I won't go into a big disertation about this :-), but I wondered how you got it unless you are a vet tech. I buy a of meds on line, but I never saw Convenia. Anyway I'm glad Charlie is sneezing less. I got the Doxycycline from my vet and it cost $58.00 which I thought was an outrageous price but it worked. A lot of people in the cat groups use compounding pharmacies, but they do require a prescription from your vet. Will your vet work with you on this? I tried the saline spray and my snotty nosed cat ran and hid everytime she saw me. Nose drops just didn't work. Google compounding pharmacies. I believe roadrunner is one of the best. Good luck with Charlie and thank you for taking care of him. I have had many FelV + cats who have lived anywhere from 6 months to over 5 years. It is heartbreaking to see what some of them go through. How I wish there was a cure for this terrible virus. Lorrie cats On 07-16, michael devitt wrote: hi lorrie what i gave him was convenia yea i know controversial drug he seems to be improving not alot of sneezing or gagging like before still not eating he sleeping alot hasnt slept much the last few days with all the sneezing going on where did you get the doxycycline and he is +felv unable to pill him or spray a little saline up his nose tried and now he ducks away from me thanks for responding ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] charlie has a uri
hi my name is mike and my semi-feral charlie developed an uri i gave him an atibiotic injection on 7/13/13 subq can not pill him he is currently hiding under my bed really stuffed up eyes watering will not eat he ate yesterday morning just wondering if anybody has this same issue he is a special cat to me hope he pulls through anybody help would be appreciated thanks___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] charlie has a uri
Hi Mike, What antibiotic? How much? What does he weigh? Most URIs are viral, so may not respond to Abx. Is Charlie getting L-Lysine? You could try 500mgs twice a day in food, if you can get him interested. Can you get liquids into him? It will dissolve in water and can be syringed. Try putting him in a small bathroom with a ht shower runnung, sometimes the steam will help clear the enough to get them to eat. Try strong smelling foods, or sardines, tuna, or try meat baby food. Margo -Original Message- From: michael devitt <villagem48...@yahoo.com>Sent: Jul 16, 2013 12:01 PM To: "Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" <FELVTALK@FELINELEUKEMIA.ORG>Subject: [Felvtalk] charlie has a uri hi my name is mike and my semi-feral charlie developed an uri i gave him an atibiotic injection on 7/13/13 subq can not pill him he is currently hiding under my bed really stuffed up eyes watering will not eat he ate yesterday morning just wondering if anybody has this same issue he is a special cat to me hope he pulls through anybody help would be appreciated thanks ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] charlie has a uri
Hi Mike, I assume Charlie is FelV pos. right? Otherwise you would not post to this group. Please tell us what you gave him so we can help you. One of our cats had a chronic URI for years. We tried everything and the poor cat was losing weight and green snot was always coming from her nose. She too was semi-feral. Finally we found something that worked. Doxycycline compounded into a chicken flavored liquid. She took it readily and was on it for a month. I know this sounds like a long time, but there is very little blood flow to the nasal region and it takes this long to totally destroy the bacteria. Two weeks of several different antibiotics just didn't do it. Lorrie and 30 rescued cats. On 07-16, michael devitt wrote: hi my name is mike and my semi-feral charlie developed an uri i gave him an atibiotic injection on 7/13/13 subq can not pill him he is currently hiding under my bed really stuffed up eyes watering will not eat he ate yesterday morning just wondering if anybody has this same issue he is a special cat to me hope he pulls through anybody help would be appreciated thanks ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] charlie has a uri
hi lorrie what i gave him was convenia yea i know controversial drug he seems to be improving not alot of sneezing or gagging like before still not eating he sleeping alot hasnt slept much the last few days with all the sneezing going on where did you get the doxycycline and he is +felv unable to pill him or spray a little saline up his nose tried and now he ducks away from me thanks for responding From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 5:20 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] charlie has a uri Hi Mike, I assume Charlie is FelV pos. right? Otherwise you would not post to this group. Please tell us what you gave him so we can help you. One of our cats had a chronic URI for years. We tried everything and the poor cat was losing weight and green snot was always coming from her nose. She too was semi-feral. Finally we found something that worked. Doxycycline compounded into a chicken flavored liquid. She took it readily and was on it for a month. I know this sounds like a long time, but there is very little blood flow to the nasal region and it takes this long to totally destroy the bacteria. Two weeks of several different antibiotics just didn't do it. Lorrie and 30 rescued cats. On 07-16, michael devitt wrote: hi my name is mike and my semi-feral charlie developed an uri i gave him an atibiotic injection on 7/13/13 subq can not pill him he is currently hiding under my bed really stuffed up eyes watering will not eat he ate yesterday morning just wondering if anybody has this same issue he is a special cat to me hope he pulls through anybody help would be appreciated thanks ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] charlie has a uri
hi margo i gave him convenia it is suppose to last up to 14 days it was easier than pilling him he seems to be improving out from underneath bed not gagging sneezing much still not eating sleeping alot he hasnt slept much the last few days i got my other cats on L-Lysine thanks for responding From: Margo toomanykitti...@earthlink.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 12:28 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] charlie has a uri Hi Mike, What antibiotic? How much? What does he weigh? Most URIs are viral, so may not respond to Abx. Is Charlie getting L-Lysine? You could try 500mgs twice a day in food, if you can get him interested. Can you get liquids into him? It will dissolve in water and can be syringed. Try putting him in a small bathroom with a ht shower runnung, sometimes the steam will help clear the enough to get them to eat. Try strong smelling foods, or sardines, tuna, or try meat baby food. Margo -Original Message- From: michael devitt Sent: Jul 16, 2013 12:01 PM To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] charlie has a uri hi my name is mike and my semi-feral charlie developed an uri i gave him an atibiotic injection on 7/13/13 subq can not pill him he is currently hiding under my bed really stuffed up eyes watering will not eat he ate yesterday morning just wondering if anybody has this same issue he is a special cat to me hope he pulls through anybody help would be appreciated thanks ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] charlie has a uri
hAVE YOU TRIED HOLDING HIM WITH HIS HEAD ON YOUR SHOULDER? DID THAT WITH ONE OF MY BABIES . I DON'T KINOW IF IT WAS KEEPING HER HEAD UP SO THINGS COULD DRAIN OR JUST BEING HELD AND COMFORTED, BUT IT SEEMED TO HELP. OF COURSE YOU WON'T GET MUCH DONE. I SAT UP WITH HER ALL NIGHT FOR 2 OR 3 NIGHTS. YOU WON'T GET MUCH SLEEP, BUT IF IT WORKS, WOULD BE WORTH IT. THERE IS USUALLY A BIT OF DUST UNDER BEDS, THAT COULD CAUSE SNEEZING. I LIKE HE COVENIA TOO,MUCH EASIER ON THEM AND YOU THAN TRYING TO CATCH THEM, HOLD THEM AND GET THE PILL IN THEIR MOUTH AND KEEPING IT THERE. BY THE TIME YOU GET THROUGH, BOTH OF YOU ARE EXHAUSTED. HOPE THIS WORKS AND HE GETS BETTER SO BOTH OF YOU CAN GET SOME REST. michael devitt villagem48...@yahoo.com wrote: hi margo i gave him convenia it is suppose to last up to 14 days it was easier than pilling him he seems to be improving out from underneath bed not gagging sneezing much still not eating sleeping alot he hasnt slept much the last few days i got my other cats on L-Lysine thanks for responding From: Margo toomanykitti...@earthlink.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 12:28 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] charlie has a uri Hi Mike, What antibiotic? How much? What does he weigh? Most URIs are viral, so may not respond to Abx. Is Charlie getting L-Lysine? You could try 500mgs twice a day in food, if you can get him interested. Can you get liquids into him? It will dissolve in water and can be syringed. Try putting him in a small bathroom with a ht shower runnung, sometimes the steam will help clear the enough to get them to eat. Try strong smelling foods, or sardines, tuna, or try meat baby food. Margo -Original Message- From: michael devitt Sent: Jul 16, 2013 12:01 PM To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] charlie has a uri hi my name is mike and my semi-feral charlie developed an uri i gave him an atibiotic injection on 7/13/13 subq can not pill him he is currently hiding under my bed really stuffed up eyes watering will not eat he ate yesterday morning just wondering if anybody has this same issue he is a special cat to me hope he pulls through anybody help would be appreciated thanks ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Charlie,Whispy and Bubba Please add to the CLS :(
so sorry for your loss, Sherry On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 10:03 PM, Sherry DeHaan sherryd...@yahoo.com wrote: All three of these wonderful FORMER Sids kids had the joy of having wonderful homes Charlie was a sweet loving gray boy who had a great home with one of our volunteers Marcia who also had Whispy for a short time.Whispy passed today on Marcias birthday:( Charlie passed 2 days ago. Then Bubba,I remember meeting him when I first started volunteering at Sids,a beautiful white boy with one yellow eye and one green eye. Bubba had a loving home with Julie another one of our awesome volunteers for almost 6 years.What a sad week for so many Sherry *We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more temporary* *than our own,* *Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached.* *Unable to accept its awful gaps.* *We still would have it no other way* ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Charlie,Whispy and Bubba Please add to the CLS :(
All three of these wonderful FORMER Sids kids had the joy of having wonderful homes Charlie was a sweet loving gray boy who had a great home with one of our volunteers Marcia who also had Whispy for a short time.Whispy passed today on Marcias birthday:( Charlie passed 2 days ago. Then Bubba,I remember meeting him when I first started volunteering at Sids,a beautiful white boy with one yellow eye and one green eye. Bubba had a loving home with Julie another one of our awesome volunteers for almost 6 years.What a sad week for so many Sherry We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more temporary than our own, Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached. Unable to accept its awful gaps. We still would have it no other way___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
