Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Feline vaccines was/: Stanozolol (Winstrol(R))

2015-10-26 Thread Amani Oakley 
They are not the same virus, but I don’t understand your point in response to 
my post. The leukemia virus in cats can cause:

Weight Loss
Fever
Imunodeficiency and infections (from, among other things, reduction in WBC’s)
Anemia
Immune-mediated disease
Reproductive problems
Gastrointestinal problems
Neurologic disease
Platelet disorders
Lymphadenopathy (enlarged lymph nodes)
Cancer
Respiratory and eye infections
Oral disease

As can be seen from this list, all three cell lines can be affected by the 
virus.

This list comes from an article from peteducation.com.

Amani

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kelley 
S
Sent: October-26-15 1:21 AM
To: felvtalk
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Feline vaccines was/: Stanozolol (Winstrol(R))

My understanding of panleuk (distemper) and parvo are that they are 2 different 
things, that dog parvo may have mutated from panleuk but they are not the 
same.but I am not a vet so...

On Sat, Oct 24, 2015 at 11:05 AM, Amani Oakley 
<aoak...@oakleylegal.com<mailto:aoak...@oakleylegal.com>> wrote:
No – it’s primarily for red cell production. It is used for this in humans too, 
with severe cases of genetically-caused anemia. I found it worked on all three 
cell lines though, but it was the RBC’s/haematocrit (PCV) values that bounced 
back first. I think that because it has stimulating effects on the bone marrow, 
this is why it eventually perks up production of white cells and platelets as 
well.

As I mentioned in my summary of what happened to Zander, we first noticed that 
Winstrol was having a positive effect because his gums started to pink up.

Amani

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D'Alessio
Sent: October-24-15 7:36 AM
To: Margo; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Feline vaccines was/: Stanozolol (Winstrol(R))

Question about the Winstrol - is it good for RBC too? or mostly just the WBC? 
Has anyone used it in concert with Epogen (Erythropoeitin)? Or used Epogen 
instead?

I'm concerned about the paleness of Merlot's gums. He still has decent energy 
though.


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Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Feline vaccines was/: Stanozolol (Winstrol(R))

2015-10-26 Thread Kelley S 
My response was in response to someone who seemed to be saying canine and
feline "parvo virus" are the same thing  Though I could have misunderstood.

On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 1:53 AM, Amani Oakley <aoak...@oakleylegal.com>
wrote:

> They are not the same virus, but I don’t understand your point in response
> to my post. The leukemia virus in cats can cause:
>
>
>
> Weight Loss
>
> Fever
>
> Imunodeficiency and infections (from, among other things, reduction in
> WBC’s)
>
> Anemia
>
> Immune-mediated disease
>
> Reproductive problems
>
> Gastrointestinal problems
>
> Neurologic disease
>
> Platelet disorders
>
> Lymphadenopathy (enlarged lymph nodes)
>
> Cancer
>
> Respiratory and eye infections
>
> Oral disease
>
>
>
> As can be seen from this list, all three cell lines can be affected by the
> virus.
>
>
>
> This list comes from an article from peteducation.com.
>
>
>
> Amani
>
>
>
> *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf
> Of *Kelley S
> *Sent:* October-26-15 1:21 AM
> *To:* felvtalk
> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Feline vaccines was/: Stanozolol
> (Winstrol(R))
>
>
>
> My understanding of panleuk (distemper) and parvo are that they are 2
> different things, that dog parvo may have mutated from panleuk but they are
> not the same.but I am not a vet so...
>
>
>
> On Sat, Oct 24, 2015 at 11:05 AM, Amani Oakley <aoak...@oakleylegal.com>
> wrote:
>
> No – it’s primarily for red cell production. It is used for this in humans
> too, with severe cases of genetically-caused anemia. I found it worked on
> all three cell lines though, but it was the RBC’s/haematocrit (PCV) values
> that bounced back first. I think that because it has stimulating effects on
> the bone marrow, this is why it eventually perks up production of white
> cells and platelets as well.
>
>
>
> As I mentioned in my summary of what happened to Zander, we first noticed
> that Winstrol was having a positive effect because his gums started to pink
> up.
>
>
>
> Amani
>
>
>
> *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
> <felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org>] *On Behalf Of *Maya D'Alessio
> *Sent:* October-24-15 7:36 AM
> *To:* Margo; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Feline vaccines was/: Stanozolol (Winstrol(R))
>
>
>
> Question about the Winstrol - is it good for RBC too? or mostly just the
> WBC? Has anyone used it in concert with Epogen (Erythropoeitin)? Or used
> Epogen instead?
>
>
>
> I'm concerned about the paleness of Merlot's gums. He still has decent
> energy though.
>
>
>
>
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Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Feline vaccines was/: Stanozolol (Winstrol(R))

2015-10-25 Thread Kelley S 
My understanding of panleuk (distemper) and parvo are that they are 2
different things, that dog parvo may have mutated from panleuk but they are
not the same.but I am not a vet so...

On Sat, Oct 24, 2015 at 11:05 AM, Amani Oakley 
wrote:

> No – it’s primarily for red cell production. It is used for this in humans
> too, with severe cases of genetically-caused anemia. I found it worked on
> all three cell lines though, but it was the RBC’s/haematocrit (PCV) values
> that bounced back first. I think that because it has stimulating effects on
> the bone marrow, this is why it eventually perks up production of white
> cells and platelets as well.
>
>
>
> As I mentioned in my summary of what happened to Zander, we first noticed
> that Winstrol was having a positive effect because his gums started to pink
> up.
>
>
>
> Amani
>
>
>
> *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
> ] *On Behalf Of *Maya D'Alessio
> *Sent:* October-24-15 7:36 AM
> *To:* Margo; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Feline vaccines was/: Stanozolol (Winstrol(R))
>
>
>
> Question about the Winstrol - is it good for RBC too? or mostly just the
> WBC? Has anyone used it in concert with Epogen (Erythropoeitin)? Or used
> Epogen instead?
>
>
>
> I'm concerned about the paleness of Merlot's gums. He still has decent
> energy though.
>
>
>
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[Felvtalk] FW: Feline vaccines was/: Stanozolol (Winstrol(R))

2015-10-24 Thread Amani Oakley 
No – it’s primarily for red cell production. It is used for this in humans too, 
with severe cases of genetically-caused anemia. I found it worked on all three 
cell lines though, but it was the RBC’s/haematocrit (PCV) values that bounced 
back first. I think that because it has stimulating effects on the bone marrow, 
this is why it eventually perks up production of white cells and platelets as 
well.

As I mentioned in my summary of what happened to Zander, we first noticed that 
Winstrol was having a positive effect because his gums started to pink up.

Amani

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maya 
D'Alessio
Sent: October-24-15 7:36 AM
To: Margo; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Feline vaccines was/: Stanozolol (Winstrol(R))

Question about the Winstrol - is it good for RBC too? or mostly just the WBC? 
Has anyone used it in concert with Epogen (Erythropoeitin)? Or used Epogen 
instead?

I'm concerned about the paleness of Merlot's gums. He still has decent energy 
though.

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