Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV in Bone Marrow not in Blood
I use two large dog crates and place them door to door (tie together with twist-ems) - one cage is the sleeping and food area, the other cage holds the litter box. Very important: Drill little hole in litter box rim, and tie to cage with a twit-em; saves a lot of cleaning up from box tipping over! I also use a water bowl that hands onto the cage - otherwise there'd be water all over the bedding. Believe me, I learned all this from experience and lots of messes to deal with. I have used several brands of dog crates - best to look online and see the best prices. I'll see if I have the info and send it to you. People also tell me that you can often get them at garage/tag sales. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lynda Wilson Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 8:42 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV in Bone Marrow not in Blood Fantastic idea!! Where do I get a double cage? Thanks! - Original Message - From: Natalie at...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 1:12 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV in Bone Marrow not in Blood How about, in the future, do as I do when I introduce a new cats to the group. I keep the new cat in a double cage for as long as it takes (anywhere from a few days to two or three weeks), cats sniffle, but new cat is safe. Then I open the cage when I see that there's no more hissing. Cats go inside to join the new cat, new cat walks out, explores (all, after already knowing the cats). I always use a sheet to cover the bedroom are for privacy. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jannes Taylor Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 1:02 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV in Bone Marrow not in Blood I am sure it is stressful for her to come upstairs and see three cats. When I rescued my last kitty before Amber, he was only two weeks old and my two other cats HATED him. I was afraid they would try to kill him. I kept him away from them for a couple of months. I only brought him out when I could keep a watchful eye on him. Now he and one of the cats are big buddies. The other cat still just tolerates him. She is very moody. She just growls and tells the others to to get out of her way. She has been like this ever since I had her spayed when she was about six months old. So, I have not had any experience with cats being social from the beginning. Oh yes, and when I got my second cat the first one hated her...LOL...things are never easy at my house.Jannes From: Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Mon, May 30, 2011 9:51:16 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV in Bone Marrow not in Blood I agree with this comment. I will also add that since stress can induce the virus out of dormancy, do you think it would be stressful to her to meet your other kitties? It's hard to determine exactly what type of stress. This IS just a thought. I would think that most cats like to be together and find it comforting since they are such social animals. I once had a tortie (tortoise shell) cat and she stressed very easily. I heard it was her breed. She went into diabetes when I got a dachshund puppy for our family. She later went into remission. Then I got another dachshund puppy for our other dachshund as a playmate. She then went into diabetes again. Then I knew it was all stress related. We did have another cat and when he passed away, she was the happiest cat I had ever seen. She was one of those that needed to be the only cat. Too bad I did not know that when I saved her at 5 weeks old. If they only came with instructions!! (by the way, I had her 17 1/2 yrs. I lost her last June to a stroke that left her unable to walk). - Original Message - From: molvey...@hotmail.com To: sharon Fazio sharon.annfa...@gmail.com; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 6:58 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV in Bone Marrow not in Blood From my reading and limited understanding I will answer your questions. Just don't take it as the gospel. If the virus is in the bone marrow but not the blood it's referred to as being dormant. Your kitty cannot pass it to other kitties as long as it stays dormant. One book I read did say that many times cats that contract the virus but put it into dormancy will actually be able to extinguish the virus at some point. So it is possible that your kitty could one day be free of it totally. If she is not able to completely extinguish the virus it is definitely possible that it never gets into her blood or white blood cells. The reading made it seem like as long as the virus stays dormant then it should never cause problems. However, it can turn viremic which means it gets into her blood. Sometimes stress and other illnesses can
Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV in Bone Marrow not in Blood
From my reading and limited understanding I will answer your questions. Just don't take it as the gospel. If the virus is in the bone marrow but not the blood it's referred to as being dormant. Your kitty cannot pass it to other kitties as long as it stays dormant. One book I read did say that many times cats that contract the virus but put it into dormancy will actually be able to extinguish the virus at some point. So it is possible that your kitty could one day be free of it totally. If she is not able to completely extinguish the virus it is definitely possible that it never gets into her blood or white blood cells. The reading made it seem like as long as the virus stays dormant then it should never cause problems. However, it can turn viremic which means it gets into her blood. Sometimes stress and other illnesses can activate the virus. But, whether it causes any problems at that point is a coin toss. I've heard of cats living into their mid to late teens even with the active virus so who knows. It's so hard to predict how each cat's immune system will deal with the virus. You are very lucky that even though she contracted the virus as a kitten that she was able to put it into dormancy. Many kittens that get it will die young. Maybe she will be one of those that will eventually get rid of the virus completely since her immune system was stronger than most kittens. So all that just to say who the heck knows what will happen. It's so unpredictable. You had the IFA test done too didn't you? As far as the interferon goes, I have a friend who believes in it and gives it to her FIV and FeLV kitties every day and has for years. She gets it from a pharmacy that compounds it and puts it into a chicken flavored liquid that she gives to them. I don't know if you need it or not if your cat has put the virus into dormancy but I wouldn't think it would hurt her to take it. I think it is just some kind of super charged immune system booster. Not sure though. sent from my ATT Smartphone by HTC - Reply message - From: sharon Fazio sharon.annfa...@gmail.com Date: Sat, May 28, 2011 8:29 am Subject: [Felvtalk] FeLV in Bone Marrow not in Blood To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org My 1 year kitten was diagnosed with FeLV back in Oct. She has never tested positive with either blood test, only with bone marrow aspiration after she got real sick at 20 weeks of age. As of now she is showing no signs of FeLV, just a low normal blood test. To look at her you would and the way she plays you would not even know she had FeLV. Questions are: Can a cat clear FeLV from the bone marrow? Could FeLV just stay in the bone marrow and never go to her blood? Can a cat expect to live a long life as long as the FeLV never moves from the bone marrow? If she stays well should we think about getting another bone marrow aspiration since the FeLV never been in the blood? Right now she on interferon 1 week on 1 week off. She off all other drug as she doing so well. Vet does not want to take her off the interferon ever. Thank you, Sharon ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV in Bone Marrow not in Blood
I agree with this comment. I will also add that since stress can induce the virus out of dormancy, do you think it would be stressful to her to meet your other kitties? It's hard to determine exactly what type of stress. This IS just a thought. I would think that most cats like to be together and find it comforting since they are such social animals. I once had a tortie (tortoise shell) cat and she stressed very easily. I heard it was her breed. She went into diabetes when I got a dachshund puppy for our family. She later went into remission. Then I got another dachshund puppy for our other dachshund as a playmate. She then went into diabetes again. Then I knew it was all stress related. We did have another cat and when he passed away, she was the happiest cat I had ever seen. She was one of those that needed to be the only cat. Too bad I did not know that when I saved her at 5 weeks old. If they only came with instructions!! (by the way, I had her 17 1/2 yrs. I lost her last June to a stroke that left her unable to walk). - Original Message - From: molvey...@hotmail.com To: sharon Fazio sharon.annfa...@gmail.com; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 6:58 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV in Bone Marrow not in Blood From my reading and limited understanding I will answer your questions. Just don't take it as the gospel. If the virus is in the bone marrow but not the blood it's referred to as being dormant. Your kitty cannot pass it to other kitties as long as it stays dormant. One book I read did say that many times cats that contract the virus but put it into dormancy will actually be able to extinguish the virus at some point. So it is possible that your kitty could one day be free of it totally. If she is not able to completely extinguish the virus it is definitely possible that it never gets into her blood or white blood cells. The reading made it seem like as long as the virus stays dormant then it should never cause problems. However, it can turn viremic which means it gets into her blood. Sometimes stress and other illnesses can activate the virus. But, whether it causes any problems at that point is a coin toss. I've heard of cats living into their mid to late teens even with the active virus so who knows. It's so hard to predict how each cat's immune system will deal with the virus. You are very lucky that even though she contracted the virus as a kitten that she was able to put it into dormancy. Many kittens that get it will die young. Maybe she will be one of those that will eventually get rid of the virus completely since her immune system was stronger than most kittens. So all that just to say who the heck knows what will happen. It's so unpredictable. You had the IFA test done too didn't you? As far as the interferon goes, I have a friend who believes in it and gives it to her FIV and FeLV kitties every day and has for years. She gets it from a pharmacy that compounds it and puts it into a chicken flavored liquid that she gives to them. I don't know if you need it or not if your cat has put the virus into dormancy but I wouldn't think it would hurt her to take it. I think it is just some kind of super charged immune system booster. Not sure though. sent from my ATT Smartphone by HTC - Reply message - From: sharon Fazio sharon.annfa...@gmail.com Date: Sat, May 28, 2011 8:29 am Subject: [Felvtalk] FeLV in Bone Marrow not in Blood To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org My 1 year kitten was diagnosed with FeLV back in Oct. She has never tested positive with either blood test, only with bone marrow aspiration after she got real sick at 20 weeks of age. As of now she is showing no signs of FeLV, just a low normal blood test. To look at her you would and the way she plays you would not even know she had FeLV. Questions are: Can a cat clear FeLV from the bone marrow? Could FeLV just stay in the bone marrow and never go to her blood? Can a cat expect to live a long life as long as the FeLV never moves from the bone marrow? If she stays well should we think about getting another bone marrow aspiration since the FeLV never been in the blood? Right now she on interferon 1 week on 1 week off. She off all other drug as she doing so well. Vet does not want to take her off the interferon ever. Thank you, Sharon ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV in Bone Marrow not in Blood
I am sure it is stressful for her to come upstairs and see three cats. When I rescued my last kitty before Amber, he was only two weeks old and my two other cats HATED him. I was afraid they would try to kill him. I kept him away from them for a couple of months. I only brought him out when I could keep a watchful eye on him. Now he and one of the cats are big buddies. The other cat still just tolerates him. She is very moody. She just growls and tells the others to to get out of her way. She has been like this ever since I had her spayed when she was about six months old. So, I have not had any experience with cats being social from the beginning. Oh yes, and when I got my second cat the first one hated her...LOL...things are never easy at my house.Jannes From: Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Mon, May 30, 2011 9:51:16 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV in Bone Marrow not in Blood I agree with this comment. I will also add that since stress can induce the virus out of dormancy, do you think it would be stressful to her to meet your other kitties? It's hard to determine exactly what type of stress. This IS just a thought. I would think that most cats like to be together and find it comforting since they are such social animals. I once had a tortie (tortoise shell) cat and she stressed very easily. I heard it was her breed. She went into diabetes when I got a dachshund puppy for our family. She later went into remission. Then I got another dachshund puppy for our other dachshund as a playmate. She then went into diabetes again. Then I knew it was all stress related. We did have another cat and when he passed away, she was the happiest cat I had ever seen. She was one of those that needed to be the only cat. Too bad I did not know that when I saved her at 5 weeks old. If they only came with instructions!! (by the way, I had her 17 1/2 yrs. I lost her last June to a stroke that left her unable to walk). - Original Message - From: molvey...@hotmail.com To: sharon Fazio sharon.annfa...@gmail.com; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 6:58 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV in Bone Marrow not in Blood From my reading and limited understanding I will answer your questions. Just don't take it as the gospel. If the virus is in the bone marrow but not the blood it's referred to as being dormant. Your kitty cannot pass it to other kitties as long as it stays dormant. One book I read did say that many times cats that contract the virus but put it into dormancy will actually be able to extinguish the virus at some point. So it is possible that your kitty could one day be free of it totally. If she is not able to completely extinguish the virus it is definitely possible that it never gets into her blood or white blood cells. The reading made it seem like as long as the virus stays dormant then it should never cause problems. However, it can turn viremic which means it gets into her blood. Sometimes stress and other illnesses can activate the virus. But, whether it causes any problems at that point is a coin toss. I've heard of cats living into their mid to late teens even with the active virus so who knows. It's so hard to predict how each cat's immune system will deal with the virus. You are very lucky that even though she contracted the virus as a kitten that she was able to put it into dormancy. Many kittens that get it will die young. Maybe she will be one of those that will eventually get rid of the virus completely since her immune system was stronger than most kittens. So all that just to say who the heck knows what will happen. It's so unpredictable. You had the IFA test done too didn't you? As far as the interferon goes, I have a friend who believes in it and gives it to her FIV and FeLV kitties every day and has for years. She gets it from a pharmacy that compounds it and puts it into a chicken flavored liquid that she gives to them. I don't know if you need it or not if your cat has put the virus into dormancy but I wouldn't think it would hurt her to take it. I think it is just some kind of super charged immune system booster. Not sure though. sent from my ATT Smartphone by HTC - Reply message - From: sharon Fazio sharon.annfa...@gmail.com Date: Sat, May 28, 2011 8:29 am Subject: [Felvtalk] FeLV in Bone Marrow not in Blood To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org My 1 year kitten was diagnosed with FeLV back in Oct. She has never tested positive with either blood test, only with bone marrow aspiration after she got real sick at 20 weeks of age. As of now she is showing no signs of FeLV, just a low normal blood test. To look at her you would and the way she plays you would not even know she had FeLV. Questions are: Can a cat clear FeLV from the bone marrow? Could FeLV just stay
Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV in Bone Marrow not in Blood
How about, in the future, do as I do when I introduce a new cats to the group. I keep the new cat in a double cage for as long as it takes (anywhere from a few days to two or three weeks), cats sniffle, but new cat is safe. Then I open the cage when I see that there's no more hissing. Cats go inside to join the new cat, new cat walks out, explores (all, after already knowing the cats). I always use a sheet to cover the bedroom are for privacy. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jannes Taylor Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 1:02 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV in Bone Marrow not in Blood I am sure it is stressful for her to come upstairs and see three cats. When I rescued my last kitty before Amber, he was only two weeks old and my two other cats HATED him. I was afraid they would try to kill him. I kept him away from them for a couple of months. I only brought him out when I could keep a watchful eye on him. Now he and one of the cats are big buddies. The other cat still just tolerates him. She is very moody. She just growls and tells the others to to get out of her way. She has been like this ever since I had her spayed when she was about six months old. So, I have not had any experience with cats being social from the beginning. Oh yes, and when I got my second cat the first one hated her...LOL...things are never easy at my house.Jannes From: Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Mon, May 30, 2011 9:51:16 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV in Bone Marrow not in Blood I agree with this comment. I will also add that since stress can induce the virus out of dormancy, do you think it would be stressful to her to meet your other kitties? It's hard to determine exactly what type of stress. This IS just a thought. I would think that most cats like to be together and find it comforting since they are such social animals. I once had a tortie (tortoise shell) cat and she stressed very easily. I heard it was her breed. She went into diabetes when I got a dachshund puppy for our family. She later went into remission. Then I got another dachshund puppy for our other dachshund as a playmate. She then went into diabetes again. Then I knew it was all stress related. We did have another cat and when he passed away, she was the happiest cat I had ever seen. She was one of those that needed to be the only cat. Too bad I did not know that when I saved her at 5 weeks old. If they only came with instructions!! (by the way, I had her 17 1/2 yrs. I lost her last June to a stroke that left her unable to walk). - Original Message - From: molvey...@hotmail.com To: sharon Fazio sharon.annfa...@gmail.com; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 6:58 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV in Bone Marrow not in Blood From my reading and limited understanding I will answer your questions. Just don't take it as the gospel. If the virus is in the bone marrow but not the blood it's referred to as being dormant. Your kitty cannot pass it to other kitties as long as it stays dormant. One book I read did say that many times cats that contract the virus but put it into dormancy will actually be able to extinguish the virus at some point. So it is possible that your kitty could one day be free of it totally. If she is not able to completely extinguish the virus it is definitely possible that it never gets into her blood or white blood cells. The reading made it seem like as long as the virus stays dormant then it should never cause problems. However, it can turn viremic which means it gets into her blood. Sometimes stress and other illnesses can activate the virus. But, whether it causes any problems at that point is a coin toss. I've heard of cats living into their mid to late teens even with the active virus so who knows. It's so hard to predict how each cat's immune system will deal with the virus. You are very lucky that even though she contracted the virus as a kitten that she was able to put it into dormancy. Many kittens that get it will die young. Maybe she will be one of those that will eventually get rid of the virus completely since her immune system was stronger than most kittens. So all that just to say who the heck knows what will happen. It's so unpredictable. You had the IFA test done too didn't you? As far as the interferon goes, I have a friend who believes in it and gives it to her FIV and FeLV kitties every day and has for years. She gets it from a pharmacy that compounds it and puts it into a chicken flavored liquid that she gives to them. I don't know if you need it or not if your cat has put the virus into dormancy but I wouldn't think it would hurt her to take it. I think it is just some kind of super charged immune system
Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV in Bone Marrow not in Blood
It seems that Walmart attracts such people. Someone should have made them sit in the car and see how they felt! czadna sacarawicz czadnasacaraw...@hotmail.com wrote: I too want to understand. what has become of the Siamese for whom a rescue was being urgently asked? It has been another over the top day - - a whimpering puppy left too long in a hot car (2 windows down 3) at Wal-Mart. store made announcement over PA. no one came. called 911. we prayed hard and long arms were able to pull the puppy out. shorter arms took the puppy inside for water. owners (2 adult men and 1 adult woman) said they ignored the annoucment about it because they were standing in line. long arms asked if they wanted to speak with Animal Control. no. owners drove away. Animal Control has puppy. hope he makes it. m From: sharon.annfa...@gmail.com Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 08:29:10 -0400 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] FeLV in Bone Marrow not in Blood My 1 year kitten was diagnosed with FeLV back in Oct. She has never tested positive with either blood test, only with bone marrow aspiration after she got real sick at 20 weeks of age. As of now she is showing no signs of FeLV, just a low normal blood test. To look at her you would and the way she plays you would not even know she had FeLV. Questions are: Can a cat clear FeLV from the bone marrow? Could FeLV just stay in the bone marrow and never go to her blood? Can a cat expect to live a long life as long as the FeLV never moves from the bone marrow? If she stays well should we think about getting another bone marrow aspiration since the FeLV never been in the blood? Right now she on interferon 1 week on 1 week off. She off all other drug as she doing so well. Vet does not want to take her off the interferon ever. Thank you, Sharon ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV in Bone Marrow not in Blood
Hi Jannes! I've had just the opposite problem. All my cats have adapted well. I just got a 4 mos old kitten and he's taking his time adjusting. I'm giving him time, room and patience for him to adjust. I will admit that I'm not used to this at all. I've considered myself very lucky now considering all the cats I have had all my life and they all got along within a few days. Good luck to you and I wish you the best. They are lucky to have you, you're a good momma for them :0) Lynda - Original Message - From: Jannes Taylor jannestay...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 12:02 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV in Bone Marrow not in Blood I am sure it is stressful for her to come upstairs and see three cats. When I rescued my last kitty before Amber, he was only two weeks old and my two other cats HATED him. I was afraid they would try to kill him. I kept him away from them for a couple of months. I only brought him out when I could keep a watchful eye on him. Now he and one of the cats are big buddies. The other cat still just tolerates him. She is very moody. She just growls and tells the others to to get out of her way. She has been like this ever since I had her spayed when she was about six months old. So, I have not had any experience with cats being social from the beginning. Oh yes, and when I got my second cat the first one hated her...LOL...things are never easy at my house.Jannes From: Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Mon, May 30, 2011 9:51:16 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV in Bone Marrow not in Blood I agree with this comment. I will also add that since stress can induce the virus out of dormancy, do you think it would be stressful to her to meet your other kitties? It's hard to determine exactly what type of stress. This IS just a thought. I would think that most cats like to be together and find it comforting since they are such social animals. I once had a tortie (tortoise shell) cat and she stressed very easily. I heard it was her breed. She went into diabetes when I got a dachshund puppy for our family. She later went into remission. Then I got another dachshund puppy for our other dachshund as a playmate. She then went into diabetes again. Then I knew it was all stress related. We did have another cat and when he passed away, she was the happiest cat I had ever seen. She was one of those that needed to be the only cat. Too bad I did not know that when I saved her at 5 weeks old. If they only came with instructions!! (by the way, I had her 17 1/2 yrs. I lost her last June to a stroke that left her unable to walk). - Original Message - From: molvey...@hotmail.com To: sharon Fazio sharon.annfa...@gmail.com; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 6:58 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV in Bone Marrow not in Blood From my reading and limited understanding I will answer your questions. Just don't take it as the gospel. If the virus is in the bone marrow but not the blood it's referred to as being dormant. Your kitty cannot pass it to other kitties as long as it stays dormant. One book I read did say that many times cats that contract the virus but put it into dormancy will actually be able to extinguish the virus at some point. So it is possible that your kitty could one day be free of it totally. If she is not able to completely extinguish the virus it is definitely possible that it never gets into her blood or white blood cells. The reading made it seem like as long as the virus stays dormant then it should never cause problems. However, it can turn viremic which means it gets into her blood. Sometimes stress and other illnesses can activate the virus. But, whether it causes any problems at that point is a coin toss. I've heard of cats living into their mid to late teens even with the active virus so who knows. It's so hard to predict how each cat's immune system will deal with the virus. You are very lucky that even though she contracted the virus as a kitten that she was able to put it into dormancy. Many kittens that get it will die young. Maybe she will be one of those that will eventually get rid of the virus completely since her immune system was stronger than most kittens. So all that just to say who the heck knows what will happen. It's so unpredictable. You had the IFA test done too didn't you? As far as the interferon goes, I have a friend who believes in it and gives it to her FIV and FeLV kitties every day and has for years. She gets it from a pharmacy that compounds it and puts it into a chicken flavored liquid that she gives to them. I don't know if you need it or not if your cat has put the virus into dormancy but I wouldn't think it would hurt her to take it. I think it is just some kind of super charged immune system booster. Not sure though. sent from my ATT Smartphone
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Fantastic idea!! Where do I get a double cage? Thanks! - Original Message - From: Natalie at...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 1:12 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV in Bone Marrow not in Blood How about, in the future, do as I do when I introduce a new cats to the group. I keep the new cat in a double cage for as long as it takes (anywhere from a few days to two or three weeks), cats sniffle, but new cat is safe. Then I open the cage when I see that there's no more hissing. Cats go inside to join the new cat, new cat walks out, explores (all, after already knowing the cats). I always use a sheet to cover the bedroom are for privacy. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jannes Taylor Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 1:02 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV in Bone Marrow not in Blood I am sure it is stressful for her to come upstairs and see three cats. When I rescued my last kitty before Amber, he was only two weeks old and my two other cats HATED him. I was afraid they would try to kill him. I kept him away from them for a couple of months. I only brought him out when I could keep a watchful eye on him. Now he and one of the cats are big buddies. The other cat still just tolerates him. She is very moody. She just growls and tells the others to to get out of her way. She has been like this ever since I had her spayed when she was about six months old. So, I have not had any experience with cats being social from the beginning. Oh yes, and when I got my second cat the first one hated her...LOL...things are never easy at my house.Jannes From: Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Mon, May 30, 2011 9:51:16 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV in Bone Marrow not in Blood I agree with this comment. I will also add that since stress can induce the virus out of dormancy, do you think it would be stressful to her to meet your other kitties? It's hard to determine exactly what type of stress. This IS just a thought. I would think that most cats like to be together and find it comforting since they are such social animals. I once had a tortie (tortoise shell) cat and she stressed very easily. I heard it was her breed. She went into diabetes when I got a dachshund puppy for our family. She later went into remission. Then I got another dachshund puppy for our other dachshund as a playmate. She then went into diabetes again. Then I knew it was all stress related. We did have another cat and when he passed away, she was the happiest cat I had ever seen. She was one of those that needed to be the only cat. Too bad I did not know that when I saved her at 5 weeks old. If they only came with instructions!! (by the way, I had her 17 1/2 yrs. I lost her last June to a stroke that left her unable to walk). - Original Message - From: molvey...@hotmail.com To: sharon Fazio sharon.annfa...@gmail.com; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 6:58 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV in Bone Marrow not in Blood From my reading and limited understanding I will answer your questions. Just don't take it as the gospel. If the virus is in the bone marrow but not the blood it's referred to as being dormant. Your kitty cannot pass it to other kitties as long as it stays dormant. One book I read did say that many times cats that contract the virus but put it into dormancy will actually be able to extinguish the virus at some point. So it is possible that your kitty could one day be free of it totally. If she is not able to completely extinguish the virus it is definitely possible that it never gets into her blood or white blood cells. The reading made it seem like as long as the virus stays dormant then it should never cause problems. However, it can turn viremic which means it gets into her blood. Sometimes stress and other illnesses can activate the virus. But, whether it causes any problems at that point is a coin toss. I've heard of cats living into their mid to late teens even with the active virus so who knows. It's so hard to predict how each cat's immune system will deal with the virus. You are very lucky that even though she contracted the virus as a kitten that she was able to put it into dormancy. Many kittens that get it will die young. Maybe she will be one of those that will eventually get rid of the virus completely since her immune system was stronger than most kittens. So all that just to say who the heck knows what will happen. It's so unpredictable. You had the IFA test done too didn't you? As far as the interferon goes, I have a friend who believes in it and gives it to her FIV and FeLV kitties every day and has for years. She gets it from a pharmacy that compounds it and puts it into a chicken flavored liquid that she
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Thank you Lynda. I brought Amber upstairs three times today and held on to her. She was the only one doing the hissing and growling. I will keep you posted. LOl. I really can't believe the other three were not doing the same thing. I am proud of them! Jannes From: Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Mon, May 30, 2011 7:40:45 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV in Bone Marrow not in Blood Hi Jannes! I've had just the opposite problem. All my cats have adapted well. I just got a 4 mos old kitten and he's taking his time adjusting. I'm giving him time, room and patience for him to adjust. I will admit that I'm not used to this at all. I've considered myself very lucky now considering all the cats I have had all my life and they all got along within a few days. Good luck to you and I wish you the best. They are lucky to have you, you're a good momma for them :0) Lynda - Original Message - From: Jannes Taylor jannestay...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 12:02 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV in Bone Marrow not in Blood I am sure it is stressful for her to come upstairs and see three cats. When I rescued my last kitty before Amber, he was only two weeks old and my two other cats HATED him. I was afraid they would try to kill him. I kept him away from them for a couple of months. I only brought him out when I could keep a watchful eye on him. Now he and one of the cats are big buddies. The other cat still just tolerates him. She is very moody. She just growls and tells the others to to get out of her way. She has been like this ever since I had her spayed when she was about six months old. So, I have not had any experience with cats being social from the beginning. Oh yes, and when I got my second cat the first one hated her...LOL...things are never easy at my house.Jannes From: Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Mon, May 30, 2011 9:51:16 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV in Bone Marrow not in Blood I agree with this comment. I will also add that since stress can induce the virus out of dormancy, do you think it would be stressful to her to meet your other kitties? It's hard to determine exactly what type of stress. This IS just a thought. I would think that most cats like to be together and find it comforting since they are such social animals. I once had a tortie (tortoise shell) cat and she stressed very easily. I heard it was her breed. She went into diabetes when I got a dachshund puppy for our family. She later went into remission. Then I got another dachshund puppy for our other dachshund as a playmate. She then went into diabetes again. Then I knew it was all stress related. We did have another cat and when he passed away, she was the happiest cat I had ever seen. She was one of those that needed to be the only cat. Too bad I did not know that when I saved her at 5 weeks old. If they only came with instructions!! (by the way, I had her 17 1/2 yrs. I lost her last June to a stroke that left her unable to walk). - Original Message - From: molvey...@hotmail.com To: sharon Fazio sharon.annfa...@gmail.com; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 6:58 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV in Bone Marrow not in Blood From my reading and limited understanding I will answer your questions. Just don't take it as the gospel. If the virus is in the bone marrow but not the blood it's referred to as being dormant. Your kitty cannot pass it to other kitties as long as it stays dormant. One book I read did say that many times cats that contract the virus but put it into dormancy will actually be able to extinguish the virus at some point. So it is possible that your kitty could one day be free of it totally. If she is not able to completely extinguish the virus it is definitely possible that it never gets into her blood or white blood cells. The reading made it seem like as long as the virus stays dormant then it should never cause problems. However, it can turn viremic which means it gets into her blood. Sometimes stress and other illnesses can activate the virus. But, whether it causes any problems at that point is a coin toss. I've heard of cats living into their mid to late teens even with the active virus so who knows. It's so hard to predict how each cat's immune system will deal with the virus. You are very lucky that even though she contracted the virus as a kitten that she was able to put it into dormancy. Many kittens that get it will die young. Maybe she will be one of those that will eventually get rid of the virus completely since her immune system was stronger than most kittens. So all that just to say who the heck knows what will happen. It's so unpredictable. You had the IFA test done too didn't you? As far as the interferon goes, I have
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Exactly, make the people sit in a baking car with the exact circumstances. What scum we have on this earth! - Original Message - From: dlg...@windstream.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 3:45 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV in Bone Marrow not in Blood It seems that Walmart attracts such people. Someone should have made them sit in the car and see how they felt! czadna sacarawicz czadnasacaraw...@hotmail.com wrote: I too want to understand. what has become of the Siamese for whom a rescue was being urgently asked? It has been another over the top day - - a whimpering puppy left too long in a hot car (2 windows down 3) at Wal-Mart. store made announcement over PA. no one came. called 911. we prayed hard and long arms were able to pull the puppy out. shorter arms took the puppy inside for water. owners (2 adult men and 1 adult woman) said they ignored the annoucment about it because they were standing in line. long arms asked if they wanted to speak with Animal Control. no. owners drove away. Animal Control has puppy. hope he makes it. m From: sharon.annfa...@gmail.com Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 08:29:10 -0400 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] FeLV in Bone Marrow not in Blood My 1 year kitten was diagnosed with FeLV back in Oct. She has never tested positive with either blood test, only with bone marrow aspiration after she got real sick at 20 weeks of age. As of now she is showing no signs of FeLV, just a low normal blood test. To look at her you would and the way she plays you would not even know she had FeLV. Questions are: Can a cat clear FeLV from the bone marrow? Could FeLV just stay in the bone marrow and never go to her blood? Can a cat expect to live a long life as long as the FeLV never moves from the bone marrow? If she stays well should we think about getting another bone marrow aspiration since the FeLV never been in the blood? Right now she on interferon 1 week on 1 week off. She off all other drug as she doing so well. Vet does not want to take her off the interferon ever. Thank you, Sharon ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Yay! Sounds like you got a great bunch. I bet she will fit right in. You will then have an even amount. Don't they say that three is a crowd in the first place, lol?! She's just testing the water. She'll come around and will be hangin' with the group soon. Keep in touch :0) Lynda - Original Message - From: Jannes Taylor jannestay...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 8:27 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV in Bone Marrow not in Blood Thank you Lynda. I brought Amber upstairs three times today and held on to her. She was the only one doing the hissing and growling. I will keep you posted. LOl. I really can't believe the other three were not doing the same thing. I am proud of them! Jannes From: Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Mon, May 30, 2011 7:40:45 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV in Bone Marrow not in Blood Hi Jannes! I've had just the opposite problem. All my cats have adapted well. I just got a 4 mos old kitten and he's taking his time adjusting. I'm giving him time, room and patience for him to adjust. I will admit that I'm not used to this at all. I've considered myself very lucky now considering all the cats I have had all my life and they all got along within a few days. Good luck to you and I wish you the best. They are lucky to have you, you're a good momma for them :0) Lynda - Original Message - From: Jannes Taylor jannestay...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 12:02 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV in Bone Marrow not in Blood I am sure it is stressful for her to come upstairs and see three cats. When I rescued my last kitty before Amber, he was only two weeks old and my two other cats HATED him. I was afraid they would try to kill him. I kept him away from them for a couple of months. I only brought him out when I could keep a watchful eye on him. Now he and one of the cats are big buddies. The other cat still just tolerates him. She is very moody. She just growls and tells the others to to get out of her way. She has been like this ever since I had her spayed when she was about six months old. So, I have not had any experience with cats being social from the beginning. Oh yes, and when I got my second cat the first one hated her...LOL...things are never easy at my house.Jannes From: Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Mon, May 30, 2011 9:51:16 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV in Bone Marrow not in Blood I agree with this comment. I will also add that since stress can induce the virus out of dormancy, do you think it would be stressful to her to meet your other kitties? It's hard to determine exactly what type of stress. This IS just a thought. I would think that most cats like to be together and find it comforting since they are such social animals. I once had a tortie (tortoise shell) cat and she stressed very easily. I heard it was her breed. She went into diabetes when I got a dachshund puppy for our family. She later went into remission. Then I got another dachshund puppy for our other dachshund as a playmate. She then went into diabetes again. Then I knew it was all stress related. We did have another cat and when he passed away, she was the happiest cat I had ever seen. She was one of those that needed to be the only cat. Too bad I did not know that when I saved her at 5 weeks old. If they only came with instructions!! (by the way, I had her 17 1/2 yrs. I lost her last June to a stroke that left her unable to walk). - Original Message - From: molvey...@hotmail.com To: sharon Fazio sharon.annfa...@gmail.com; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 6:58 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV in Bone Marrow not in Blood From my reading and limited understanding I will answer your questions. Just don't take it as the gospel. If the virus is in the bone marrow but not the blood it's referred to as being dormant. Your kitty cannot pass it to other kitties as long as it stays dormant. One book I read did say that many times cats that contract the virus but put it into dormancy will actually be able to extinguish the virus at some point. So it is possible that your kitty could one day be free of it totally. If she is not able to completely extinguish the virus it is definitely possible that it never gets into her blood or white blood cells. The reading made it seem like as long as the virus stays dormant then it should never cause problems. However, it can turn viremic which means it gets into her blood. Sometimes stress and other illnesses can activate the virus. But, whether it causes any problems at that point is a coin toss. I've heard of cats living into their mid to late teens even with the active virus so who knows. It's so hard to predict how each cat's immune system
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I too want to understand. what has become of the Siamese for whom a rescue was being urgently asked? It has been another over the top day - - a whimpering puppy left too long in a hot car (2 windows down 3) at Wal-Mart. store made announcement over PA. no one came. called 911. we prayed hard and long arms were able to pull the puppy out. shorter arms took the puppy inside for water. owners (2 adult men and 1 adult woman) said they ignored the annoucment about it because they were standing in line. long arms asked if they wanted to speak with Animal Control. no. owners drove away. Animal Control has puppy. hope he makes it. m From: sharon.annfa...@gmail.com Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 08:29:10 -0400 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] FeLV in Bone Marrow not in Blood My 1 year kitten was diagnosed with FeLV back in Oct. She has never tested positive with either blood test, only with bone marrow aspiration after she got real sick at 20 weeks of age. As of now she is showing no signs of FeLV, just a low normal blood test. To look at her you would and the way she plays you would not even know she had FeLV. Questions are: Can a cat clear FeLV from the bone marrow? Could FeLV just stay in the bone marrow and never go to her blood? Can a cat expect to live a long life as long as the FeLV never moves from the bone marrow? If she stays well should we think about getting another bone marrow aspiration since the FeLV never been in the blood? Right now she on interferon 1 week on 1 week off. She off all other drug as she doing so well. Vet does not want to take her off the interferon ever. Thank you, Sharon ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] FeLV in Bone Marrow not in Blood
My 1 year kitten was diagnosed with FeLV back in Oct. She has never tested positive with either blood test, only with bone marrow aspiration after she got real sick at 20 weeks of age. As of now she is showing no signs of FeLV, just a low normal blood test. To look at her you would and the way she plays you would not even know she had FeLV. Questions are: Can a cat clear FeLV from the bone marrow? Could FeLV just stay in the bone marrow and never go to her blood? Can a cat expect to live a long life as long as the FeLV never moves from the bone marrow? If she stays well should we think about getting another bone marrow aspiration since the FeLV never been in the blood? Right now she on interferon 1 week on 1 week off. She off all other drug as she doing so well. Vet does not want to take her off the interferon ever. Thank you, Sharon ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
