[Felvtalk] FeLV vaccines, Conventional killed) FeLV vs rFelv (recombinant)
This is a repost, maybe it will help? From: Margo toomanykitti...@earthlink.net Sent: Apr 24, 2013 2:51 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org, felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Cc: toomanykitti...@earthlink.net toomanykitti...@earthlink.net Subject: FeLV vaccines, Conventional killed) FeLV vs rFelv (recombinant) Sharyl wrote; The protocol I was given is 1st vaccine followed by booster shot in 30 days Give the 2nd vaccine 30 days before mixing positives and negatives Follow up every 12 months with a booster shot ? I wasn't aware there was more than 1 type of vaccine Sharyl Hi Sharyl, There are two types of FeLV vaccines available. The most commonly used is an adjuvanted, killed vaccine. They include; Fel-O-Vax LV-K By Boehringer Ingelheim (formerly Fort Dodge). This killed virus leukemia vaccine is given subcutaneously or intramuscularly. For cats 10 weeks of age and older. Leukocell 2 by Pfizer Animal Health. Killed feline leukemia virus. Given subcutaneously. For cats 9 weeks of age or older. Boxes of 50 doses (2 doses needed for initial immunity). Nobivac® FeLV For the vaccination of healthy cats as an aid in the prevention of disease associated with feline leukemia virus infection. Formerly known as Fevaxyn® FeLv I'm sure there are others, as well. Then there is a non-adjuvanted recombinant (modifed live) injectable FeLV vaccine which is very new, made by Merial. This is much less likely to cause FISS/VAS than the adjuvanted vaccines. The cat I am most concerned in vaccinating has already lost one leg, so I need to choose this vaccine, as he cannot lose another. The trouble has been finding it. Here's an explanation; https://www.navta.net/press/new-molecular-technology-provides-improved-potency HTH, Margo ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] FeLV vaccines, Conventional killed) FeLV vs rFelv (recombinant)
Sharyl wrote; The protocol I was given is 1st vaccine followed by booster shot in 30 days Give the 2nd vaccine 30 days before mixing positives and negatives Follow up every 12 months with a booster shot ? I wasn't aware there was more than 1 type of vaccine Sharyl Hi Sharyl, There are two types of FeLV vaccines available. The most commonly used is an adjuvanted, killed vaccine. They include; Fel-O-Vax LV-K By Boehringer Ingelheim (formerly Fort Dodge). This killed virus leukemia vaccine is given subcutaneously or intramuscularly. For cats 10 weeks of age and older. Leukocell 2 by Pfizer Animal Health. Killed feline leukemia virus. Given subcutaneously. For cats 9 weeks of age or older. Boxes of 50 doses (2 doses needed for initial immunity). Nobivac® FeLV For the vaccination of healthy cats as an aid in the prevention of disease associated with feline leukemia virus infection. Formerly known as Fevaxyn® FeLv I'm sure there are others, as well. Then there is a non-adjuvanted recombinant (modifed live) injectable FeLV vaccine which is very new, made by Merial. This is much less likely to cause FISS/VAS than the adjuvanted vaccines. The cat I am most concerned in vaccinating has already lost one leg, so I need to choose this vaccine, as he cannot lose another. The trouble has been finding it. Here's an explanation; https://www.navta.net/press/new-molecular-technology-provides-improved-potency HTH, Margo ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] FelV Vaccines
Hi everyone, been out of the loop, got a daughter who had a stroke. been dealing with that along with everyday things. i get my negatives vacinated because they are in and out, plus i live in the middle of the woods and theya re exposed to stray cats, raccoons, possum, foxes and coyotes, all carriers of one thing or another. forgot squirrels. one good thing is they all came to me at different times of the year so i don't have 6 vacinations all at one time. i also use Care Credit which lets me pay out over a period of time interest free (as long as paid up on time). i also use it for the dentist and glasses. so far i have not had a problem paying all off before the due date. dorlis Jane Lyons j.ly...@mindspring.com wrote: Hi Lorrie This is probably a controversial opinion, but if they are indoor cats I would not vaccinate them. I read the book 'Vaccinations for Dogs and Cats' by C Diodoti a few years ago (she is vaccine researcher) and I have become very cautious and conservative about vaccinations. If you want to understand the relationship between many veterinarians and pharmaceutical companies and why overvaccination has become a major health problem, I would recommend the book. IMHO Jane On Mar 30, 2009, at 5:11 PM, Lorrie wrote: Oh wow, we're talking big bux here, as I have 14 permanent cats at home :-( I just wondered if anyone knew if the vaccine would hurt my cats if they were positive, but asymptomatic. I'll ask my vet tomorrow, but I value the opinions of the people in this group as much as any vet's opinion. And besides the vet stands to make a lot more money by testing each cat, so might insist or the tests. Lorrie On 03-30, Sharyl wrote: Lorrie, JMO but if they have never been vaccinated I'd have them tested before getting the vaccine. Sharyl --- On Mon, 3/30/09, Lorrie felineres...@kvinet.com wrote: From: Lorrie felineres...@kvinet.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Vaccines To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Cc: feral_c...@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, March 30, 2009, 1:21 PM -Inline Attachment Follows- I have several cats who are 5+ years old, and all tested FelV negative years ago when I adopted them.? However they are inside - outside cats, and are also exposed to rescued cats I bring home to be adopted out. These cats also tested neg.? but there is always that window area where FelV may not show up yet or the test may be inaccurate I want to have my home cats vaccinated for FelV just in case. Please give me some info. on this.. Do I need to retest them all first, or is it safe to give them the vaccine without testing them. They all appear to be in excellent health, but if they should be pos. would the vaccine hurt them?? Thanks for your help, Lorrie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] FelV Vaccines
Oh wow, we're talking big bux here, as I have 14 permanent cats at home :-( I just wondered if anyone knew if the vaccine would hurt my cats if they were positive, but asymptomatic. I'll ask my vet tomorrow, but I value the opinions of the people in this group as much as any vet's opinion. And besides the vet stands to make a lot more money by testing each cat, so might insist or the tests. Lorrie On 03-30, Sharyl wrote: Lorrie, JMO but if they have never been vaccinated I'd have them tested before getting the vaccine. Sharyl --- On Mon, 3/30/09, Lorrie felineres...@kvinet.com wrote: From: Lorrie felineres...@kvinet.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Vaccines To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Cc: feral_c...@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, March 30, 2009, 1:21 PM -Inline Attachment Follows- I have several cats who are 5+ years old, and all tested FelV negative years ago when I adopted them.? However they are inside - outside cats, and are also exposed to rescued cats I bring home to be adopted out. These cats also tested neg.? but there is always that window area where FelV may not show up yet or the test may be inaccurate I want to have my home cats vaccinated for FelV just in case. Please give me some info. on this.. Do I need to retest them all first, or is it safe to give them the vaccine without testing them. They all appear to be in excellent health, but if they should be pos. would the vaccine hurt them?? Thanks for your help, Lorrie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] FelV Vaccines
Hi Lorrie This is probably a controversial opinion, but if they are indoor cats I would not vaccinate them. I read the book 'Vaccinations for Dogs and Cats' by C Diodoti a few years ago (she is vaccine researcher) and I have become very cautious and conservative about vaccinations. If you want to understand the relationship between many veterinarians and pharmaceutical companies and why overvaccination has become a major health problem, I would recommend the book. IMHO Jane On Mar 30, 2009, at 5:11 PM, Lorrie wrote: Oh wow, we're talking big bux here, as I have 14 permanent cats at home :-( I just wondered if anyone knew if the vaccine would hurt my cats if they were positive, but asymptomatic. I'll ask my vet tomorrow, but I value the opinions of the people in this group as much as any vet's opinion. And besides the vet stands to make a lot more money by testing each cat, so might insist or the tests. Lorrie On 03-30, Sharyl wrote: Lorrie, JMO but if they have never been vaccinated I'd have them tested before getting the vaccine. Sharyl --- On Mon, 3/30/09, Lorrie felineres...@kvinet.com wrote: From: Lorrie felineres...@kvinet.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Vaccines To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Cc: feral_c...@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, March 30, 2009, 1:21 PM -Inline Attachment Follows- I have several cats who are 5+ years old, and all tested FelV negative years ago when I adopted them.? However they are inside - outside cats, and are also exposed to rescued cats I bring home to be adopted out. These cats also tested neg.? but there is always that window area where FelV may not show up yet or the test may be inaccurate I want to have my home cats vaccinated for FelV just in case. Please give me some info. on this.. Do I need to retest them all first, or is it safe to give them the vaccine without testing them. They all appear to be in excellent health, but if they should be pos. would the vaccine hurt them?? Thanks for your help, Lorrie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] FelV Vaccines
Lorrie, I am certainly no expert here, however, having dealt with only one FelV cat and losing him after a short time, I personally would not vacccinate a positive cat. I still think the stress I put our boy through contributed to his quick demise. Recently I had our negative rescue cat vaccinated for FelV, rabies etc and she was very ill for several days. As she is a house cat who is allowed supervised back yard outings, I worried about the odd chance of a diseased cat coming in and infecting her. I won't do it again however. Our newest rescued cat, a feral I'm convinced, adopted from the HS is still afraid of me and I could never hold her long enough to get her into the carrier to get her to the vet to be boostered. Since she has no interest in the outdoors whatsoever now, I doubt I'll even bother. Lynne - Original Message - From: Lorrie felineres...@kvinet.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 5:11 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FelV Vaccines Oh wow, we're talking big bux here, as I have 14 permanent cats at home :-( I just wondered if anyone knew if the vaccine would hurt my cats if they were positive, but asymptomatic. I'll ask my vet tomorrow, but I value the opinions of the people in this group as much as any vet's opinion. And besides the vet stands to make a lot more money by testing each cat, so might insist or the tests. Lorrie On 03-30, Sharyl wrote: Lorrie, JMO but if they have never been vaccinated I'd have them tested before getting the vaccine. Sharyl --- On Mon, 3/30/09, Lorrie felineres...@kvinet.com wrote: From: Lorrie felineres...@kvinet.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Vaccines To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Cc: feral_c...@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, March 30, 2009, 1:21 PM -Inline Attachment Follows- I have several cats who are 5+ years old, and all tested FelV negative years ago when I adopted them.? However they are inside - outside cats, and are also exposed to rescued cats I bring home to be adopted out. These cats also tested neg.? but there is always that window area where FelV may not show up yet or the test may be inaccurate I want to have my home cats vaccinated for FelV just in case. Please give me some info. on this.. Do I need to retest them all first, or is it safe to give them the vaccine without testing them. They all appear to be in excellent health, but if they should be pos. would the vaccine hurt them?? Thanks for your help, Lorrie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org __ NOD32 3976 (20090330) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] FelV Vaccines
I will not advocate either side but I will tell you that even inside cats stand a chance of being exposed. I was on the way in to my holistic vet's with Copper and Thomas when their (brand new and very oversized) carrier collapsed. Both kittens took off. The vet and I were able to recover both of the boys in a relatively short period of time (it felt like forever since her office is surrounded by very busy streets). All of God's Angels were watching after the boys and they came into contact with no cars or cats. I had batted around not having them microchipped but did just in case and am now considering the FeLV vaccine just in case. On Mar 30, 2009, at 6:07 PM, Lynne wrote: Lorrie, I am certainly no expert here, however, having dealt with only one FelV cat and losing him after a short time, I personally would not vacccinate a positive cat. I still think the stress I put our boy through contributed to his quick demise. Recently I had our negative rescue cat vaccinated for FelV, rabies etc and she was very ill for several days. As she is a house cat who is allowed supervised back yard outings, I worried about the odd chance of a diseased cat coming in and infecting her. I won't do it again however. Our newest rescued cat, a feral I'm convinced, adopted from the HS is still afraid of me and I could never hold her long enough to get her into the carrier to get her to the vet to be boostered. Since she has no interest in the outdoors whatsoever now, I doubt I'll even bother. Lynne - Original Message - From: Lorrie felineres...@kvinet.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 5:11 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FelV Vaccines Oh wow, we're talking big bux here, as I have 14 permanent cats at home :-( I just wondered if anyone knew if the vaccine would hurt my cats if they were positive, but asymptomatic. I'll ask my vet tomorrow, but I value the opinions of the people in this group as much as any vet's opinion. And besides the vet stands to make a lot more money by testing each cat, so might insist or the tests. Lorrie On 03-30, Sharyl wrote: Lorrie, JMO but if they have never been vaccinated I'd have them tested before getting the vaccine. Sharyl --- On Mon, 3/30/09, Lorrie felineres...@kvinet.com wrote: From: Lorrie felineres...@kvinet.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Vaccines To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Cc: feral_c...@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, March 30, 2009, 1:21 PM -Inline Attachment Follows- I have several cats who are 5+ years old, and all tested FelV negative years ago when I adopted them.? However they are inside - outside cats, and are also exposed to rescued cats I bring home to be adopted out. These cats also tested neg.? but there is always that window area where FelV may not show up yet or the test may be inaccurate I want to have my home cats vaccinated for FelV just in case. Please give me some info. on this.. Do I need to retest them all first, or is it safe to give them the vaccine without testing them. They all appear to be in excellent health, but if they should be pos. would the vaccine hurt them?? Thanks for your help, Lorrie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ felvtalk_felineleukemia.org __ NOD32 3976 (20090330) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org Marylyn, Copper Thomas ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
