Wondering if anyone has comments on what is happening regarding the below circumstances: Adult cat, female spayed Tested positive FelV Has been very actuve & healthy Now showing 3rd eyelid on both eyes No diarreah Vet has ruled out neurological & parasites, doing full blood panel & xray of chest.
Wondering if folks have ideas???? ~Kathy Wood~ Sent from my iPhone On Feb 4, 2013, at 1:00 PM, felvtalk-requ...@felineleukemia.org wrote: > Send Felvtalk mailing list submissions to > felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > felvtalk-requ...@felineleukemia.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > felvtalk-ow...@felineleukemia.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Felvtalk digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Studies (Lee Evans) > 2. Re: Studies (Alev Durmus) > 3. Introduction (laurak...@aol.com) > 4. Introduction pt 2 (Laura McHugh) > 5. Re: War on Cats and Others (Kathryn Hargreaves) > 6. Re: War on Cats and Others (Lee Evans) > 7. Re: War on Cats and Others (Marcia Baronda) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2013 12:56:30 -0800 (PST) > From: Lee Evans <moonsiste...@yahoo.com> > To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" <felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> > Subject: [Felvtalk] Studies > Message-ID: > <1359924990.29441.yahoomail...@web120006.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > I noticed something about humans that is unique to our species. We seem to > have an endless ability to purposely misunderstand what is being said or > proposed.? And we put absolute faith in "studies". As the secretary of an > animal rights organization, a genuine 501 c-3, I have been asked why I was > advocating that animals be given the same benefits as humans and wouldn't > that be terribly expensive. Duh? I think these people were mostly worried > about their own right to eat cows, chickens, sheep, pigs, turkeys, and other > edible beings. But I even hear, on occasion that animal rights advocates want > there to be some form of education for animals and that if we have our way, > there would eventually be no more animals on Earth because we are against > ;breeding dogs and cats, etc.. Really!? And when I happened to mention animal > welfare, I got the response that there are enough lazy people on welfare, we > don't need to put animals on welfare in addition. Welcome to > the Twilight Zoned Out. > > OK. I feel it necessary to clear up all these misconceptions? with a name > change. From now on I will tell people I am an Animal Advocate. That means > that I speak up for animals. Right? Except in UK where it would mean that an > animal can hire me as a lawyer. > > I also seem to have read somewhere that rats, mice, voles, etc. reproduce, > much as any other mammal does. A study shows that if the entire New York > Sewer system was emptied of rats and mice and a few alligators, if a male and > female rat and a male and female mouse were to be placed there on January 1, > in just under a year, the entire New York Sewer system would have the same > number of rodents as it had before. This study is based on absolutely no > verifiable research, and is simply a product of an over-active imagination. > As is the study that cats kill BILLIONS of small mammals and birds each year. > > I need a cup of coffee. Uh, no. Last study I read, coffee was not good for > the health. But that was refuted? by the former study that it is good for the > health and can prevent senility. However, I can't have a sandwich any more > because whole wheat or any wheat, oats, bananas, orange juice, and most food > is a health hazard, except for animal based food I guess because I haven't > seen any studies recently to prove that animal protein is harmful and the > myth of clogged arteries from animal fat has been debunked, rebunked and > debunked again. I'm down to eating floor dust. > > > ? > Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty > neighbors too! > > > > > >> ________________________________ >> From: Alev <alev_dur...@yahoo.com> >> To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" <felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> >> Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2013 10:57 AM >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] War on Cats and Others >> >> >> Lee, >> >> >> I couldnt agree more, thank you for this email, I will never stop talking >> about animal rights to people, >> take care >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Feb 2, 2013, at 5:41 AM, Lee Evans <moonsiste...@yahoo.com> wrote: >> >> >> There is so much nonsense, mythology and prejudice going around when it > comes to diseases in general, whether cat, dog or human that it's a > wonder any of us survive the ignorance rather than the disease. An > acquaintance of mine was told by a licensed veterinarian that she needed to > have her healthy FIV+ cat euthanized because humans can catch it > from cats. Meow? My tenant, when I had a rent house, insisted that FIV > was highly contagious but FeLv was NOT. Tail backwards. People to this > day refuse to hug a person who is living with HIV but will shake hands > with someone who has a horrid head cold and get all chummy with people > who are coughing all over the air. >>> >>> Many veterinarians seem not to > like cats to the point of finding reasons to put them to death. Others > are simply too lazy to study new theories of medicine. In some cases, we > have not traveled more than inches away from dancing around the bonfire > to banish evil spirits as a cure for illness. >>> >>> Finally, we are > now being treated to amazingly inflated statistics from almost comic > studies that produced the startling news that cats kill rats and mice. > Who would have thought!! Not just some rats and mice? but toss in moles, > voles and gophers, not to mention those things with wings that mostly > fly.? Stir with a hefty dose of sensationalism due to a slow news day, > and you come up with BILLIONS of small mammals and birds being > slaughtered and exterminated by feral cats. Please don't mention though > that humans? have hunted dozens of species to extinction just to have a > head to hang on the wall or a rug for the floor, or as a way to stop > male sexual dysfunction, or to carve into little statues or furniture > (elephants) or just as a lovely delicacy to eat at a way overpriced > fancy restaurant. (shark fin soup and other > disgusting dishes). Sometimes it seems like humans will kill everything > from snails to whales for the most trivial or ridiculous reason. > However, just let it be known that cats kill mice and rats for a living > and you have panic in the streets. Ah well, time to get off my soap box > and go to bed. >>> >>> >>> >>> ? >>> Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty >>> neighbors too! >> _______________________________________________ >>> Felvtalk mailing list >>> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> _______________________________________________ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://felineleukemia.org/pipermail/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org/attachments/20130203/12e99e3e/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2013 13:54:25 -0800 (PST) > From: Alev Durmus <alev_dur...@yahoo.com> > To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" <felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Studies > Message-ID: > <1359928465.94643.yahoomail...@web142501.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hey Lee, > Somebody?posted on fb that, in a zoo somewhere in Norway- I think- ?there is > a cave and the name plate on it?says "the most dangerous predator lives here" > and inside, there are just mirrors... I never liked people who don't like > animals but now I detest them-And I found out that not every pet owner really > care for animals either...I still have been calling places to find a way to > make myself heard about killing animals unneccasserily, they say unless they > were not killed by steel pipes, or kicked to death killing them is OK, > because it is humane...I see nothing humane in killing helpless animals. And > I am not even talking about-yet-the animals grown for us to eat-The good news > is, the lady who very casually told me that they "put her to sleep" stepped > down... I am not sure if my complaint was the reason but I am glad. I hope > next person is better than her but either way I will not stop badgering > people about animal rights. Yes everything we eat, drink > have many chemicals, try to avoid as much as you can and eat less, at least > you consume less chemicals this way:) I have to go now, I have a job > interview tomorrow and I am so nervous. > ? > Take care, > ?Alev > > PS: You are working in an animal shelter right? Am I mistaken?? > > ________________________________ > From: Lee Evans <moonsiste...@yahoo.com> > To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" <felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> > Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2013 3:56 PM > Subject: [Felvtalk] Studies > > > I noticed something about humans that is unique to our species. We seem to > have an endless ability to purposely misunderstand what is being said or > proposed.? And we put absolute faith in "studies". As the secretary of an > animal rights organization, a genuine 501 c-3, I have been asked why I was > advocating that animals be given the same benefits as humans and wouldn't > that be terribly expensive. Duh? I think these people were mostly worried > about their own right to eat cows, chickens, sheep, pigs, turkeys, and other > edible beings. But I even hear, on occasion that animal rights advocates want > there to be some form of education for animals and that if we have our way, > there would eventually be no more animals on Earth because we are against > ;breeding dogs and cats, etc.. Really!? And when I happened to mention animal > welfare, I got the response that there are enough lazy people on welfare, we > don't need to put animals on welfare in addition. Welcome to > the Twilight Zoned Out. > > OK. I feel it necessary to clear up all these misconceptions? with a name > change. From now on I will tell people I am an Animal Advocate. That means > that I speak up for animals. Right? Except in UK where it would mean that an > animal can hire me as a lawyer. > > I also seem to have read somewhere that rats, mice, voles, etc. reproduce, > much as any other mammal does. A study shows that if the entire New York > Sewer system was emptied of rats and mice and a few alligators, if a male and > female rat and a male and female mouse were to be placed there on January 1, > in just under a year, the entire New York Sewer system would have the same > number of rodents as it had before. This study is based on absolutely no > verifiable research, and is simply a product of an over-active imagination. > As is the study > that cats kill BILLIONS of small mammals and birds each year. > > I need a cup of coffee. Uh, no. Last study I read, coffee was not good for > the health. But that was refuted? by the former study that it is good for the > health and can prevent senility. However, I can't have a sandwich any more > because whole wheat or any wheat, oats, bananas, orange juice, and most food > is a health hazard, except for animal based food I guess because I haven't > seen any studies recently to prove that animal protein is harmful and the > myth of clogged arteries from animal fat has been debunked, rebunked and > debunked again. I'm down to eating floor dust. > > > > Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty > neighbors too! > > > > > >> ________________________________ >> From: Alev <alev_dur...@yahoo.com> >> To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" <felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> >> Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2013 10:57 AM >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] War on Cats and Others >> >> >> Lee, >> >> >> I couldnt agree more, thank you for this email, I will never stop talking >> about animal rights to people, >> take care >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Feb 2, 2013, at 5:41 AM, Lee Evans <moonsiste...@yahoo.com> wrote: >> >> >> There is so much nonsense, mythology and prejudice going around when it > comes to diseases in general, whether cat, dog or human that it's a > wonder any of us survive the ignorance rather than the disease. An > acquaintance of mine was told by a licensed veterinarian that she needed to > have her healthy FIV+ cat euthanized because humans can catch it > from cats. Meow? My tenant, when I had a rent house, insisted that FIV > was highly contagious but FeLv was NOT. Tail backwards. People to this > day refuse to hug a person who is living with HIV but will shake hands > with someone who has a horrid head cold and get all chummy with people > who are coughing all over the air. >>> >>> Many veterinarians seem not to > like cats to the point of finding reasons to put them to death. Others > are simply too lazy to study new theories of medicine. In some cases, we > have not traveled more than inches away from dancing around the bonfire > to banish evil spirits as a cure for illness. >>> >>> Finally, we are > now being treated to amazingly inflated statistics from almost comic > studies that produced the startling news that cats kill rats and mice. > Who would have thought!! Not just some rats and mice? but toss in moles, > voles and gophers, not to mention those things with wings that mostly > fly.? Stir with a hefty dose of sensationalism due to a slow news day, > and you come up with BILLIONS of small mammals and birds being > slaughtered and exterminated by feral cats. Please don't mention though > that humans? have hunted dozens of species to extinction just to have a > head to hang on the wall or a rug for the floor, or as a way to stop > male sexual dysfunction, or to carve into little statues or furniture > (elephants) or just as a lovely delicacy to eat at a way overpriced > fancy restaurant. (shark fin soup and other > disgusting dishes). Sometimes it seems like humans will kill everything > from snails to whales for the most trivial or ridiculous reason. > However, just let it be known that cats kill mice and rats for a living > and you have panic in the streets. Ah well, time to get off my soap box > and go to bed. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty >>> neighbors too! >> _______________________________________________ >>> Felvtalk mailing list >>> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> _______________________________________________ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://felineleukemia.org/pipermail/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org/attachments/20130203/f63d117c/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2013 17:57:37 -0500 (EST) > From: laurak...@aol.com > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: [Felvtalk] Introduction > Message-ID: <8cfd078fecae1ff-1b04-53...@webmail-d167.sysops.aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hi everyone, > > I am new to this group--and new to FeLV. I just took in an FeLV+ kitty from > the shelter where I am a volunteer. Her name is Dani and she is beautiful. > Long story short, she and her three siblings were found outside in a box when > they were about a week old. They came to the shelter and tested positive for > FeLV (ELISA). They were retested and again it was positive. At 9 weeks, they > had an IFA test, all positive. During this time, they were bottle fed until > about 8 weeks, shuttled to and from the shelter by a staff member. They were > also treated for URIs with azithromycin. The shelter cultures all incoming > cats for ringworm and unfortunately theirs came back positive, so they were > dipped in lyme a couple of times a week for a while and put on Itraconazole. > Dani took longer to shake it off and so was completely alone for some time. > During their time at the shelter they were vaccinated with 2 rounds of FVRCP, > a rabies vaccine and spayed/neutered. Sadly, Dani's littermates all came down > with different issues (I don't know all the details, but I know the vet > suspected FIP) and were euthanized. Little Dan _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
