Thanks Amani. Good advice, hopefully my vet will agree.

Deb

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>    1. Re: Chablis - seeking advise about giving Pred/Doxy/Winstrol
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> From: Amani Oakley <aoak...@oakleylegal.com>
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> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Chablis - seeking advise about giving
>         Pred/Doxy/Winstrol with low WBC
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> Hi Deborah
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> The CBC results are unusual. There is some anemia going on, and there is
> the low white cell count. There is also an elevated monocyte count.
>
> Most people are aware that white cells go up with an infection, but they
> can also go quite low with an infection ? often if there is a focal area of
> inflammation/infection and white cells are moving out of the circulatory
> system to go to the site of infection in the tissues. My worry is that
> there ma be a source of infection somewhere. Monocytes can be elevated with
> a chronic infection as well.
>
> If it were my cat, I think I might ask the vets to give more in the way of
> antibiotics, with a broad enough spectrum to cover Gram positive and Gram
> negative organisms. I think I might insist on using Doxycycline along with
> another antibiotic, because the Doxycycline also has an effect on some more
> unusual organisms like some parasites and some viruses even. I think I
> would also try the Winstrol if it were me. Winstrol has an excellent
> enhancing effect on appetite, and may also help with the anemia. I myself
> wouldn?t be that worried about the prednisone/prednisolone but it probably
> wouldn?t hurt to hold off on that one and see if you get some improvement
> on the Doxycycline/Other Antibiotic/Winstrol combination.
>
> Amani
>
> From: Felvtalk <felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org> On Behalf Of Deborah
> Whorley
> Sent: July 25, 2019 2:59 AM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: [Felvtalk] Chablis - seeking advise about giving
> Pred/Doxy/Winstrol with low WBC
>
> Hi - one of my FeLV+ cats, Chablis (F, 5 yrs), has been dealing with
> constipation since Jan of this year. Last week she stopped eating like she
> does when she is ?backed up? but 100 cc SQ fluids didn?t resolve the issue
> as it normally does. She also started wheezing Sat eve.  I ended up with
> her in the emergency clinic on Sun and to my surprise her CBC was terrible
> (see below). Radiograph revealed no constipation or obvious masses in
> lungs/abdomen. ER vet, and my vet the next day, reluctant to give pred due
> to low WBC. Treating dehydration and inappetance with SQ fluids and
> mertazapine. ER vet also gave Convenia "just in case?. Going back on Fri to
> my vet for another CBC. Have been following this group for several years
> and want to try Amani?s treatment protocol, but does low WBC contraindicate
> giving prepnisolone and/or Winstrol? Thanks in advance for any advise. - Deb
>
> CBC (21Jul2019)
> NOTE: they did not repeat the analysis which, in hindsight, I should have
> insisted upon
>
> Test    Result            Flag    Normal Range          Measure
> RBC    5.11     L                 5.65 8.87                  M/?L
> HCT    24.4    L                  37.3 61.7                       %
> HGB    7.8                  L                  13.1 20.5
>      g/dL
> MCV   47.7    L                   61.6 73.5                      fL
> MCH   15.3    L                   21.2 25.9                      pg
> MCHC             32.0                         32.0 37.9
> g/dL
> RDW  23.6    H                  13.6 21.7                      %
> %RETIC         0.2
>                           %
> RETIC            8.7                  L                   10.0 110.0
>           K/?L
>
> WBC   * 2.39                      5.05 16.76                K/?L
> %NEU            * 32.6
>              %
> %LYM            * 36.8
>              %
> %MONO * 28.5
>           %
> %EOS             * 0.4
>                 %
> %BASO          * 1.7
>               %
> NEU    --.--                             2.95 11.64             K/?L
> BAND             * Suspected
> LYM    * 0.88                     1.05 5.10                K/?L
> MONO            * 0.68                     0.16
> 1.12<x-apple-data-detectors://9>                   K/?L
> EOS     * 0.01                     0.06 1.23                   K/?L
> BASO  * 0.04                     0.00 0.10                   K/?L
> nRBC  * Suspected
> PLT                 * 182                      148 484          K/?L
> MPV   17.6    H                 8.7 13.2                      fL
> PDW   --.--                             9.1 19.4
>    fL
> PCT     0.32                            0.14 0.46               %
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