Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 7, Issue 29

2012-02-19 Thread Ruth Parsons
Hi
I appreciate all the info on FELV this group provides. I research treatments 
suggested and look for a variety of reliable sources to help me care for our 
cat, who is presently thriving despite 2 positive tests. The recent postings 
regarding black salve and Deva Khalsa gave me some concern. The links below, 
and others, raise issues about this product and the products promoted by this 
person. Just FYI. 

1. http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/Cancer/eschar.html
 
2. 
http://skeptvet.com/Blog/2010/07/double-helix-water-more-magic-water-quackery/___
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Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 7, Issue 29

2012-02-19 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
While I did not have as good of an experience of Dr. Khalsa as have others,
note that these blogs could be biased, too.   Even allopathic doctors can
be criticized by such, sometimes for purely for political/economic
reasons.   Often, you have to follow the money.

I know of an animal who had multiple tumors (including brain ones) who was
helped by alternative medicine (specifically, U-Fn and some other
unverified things), but their caretaker was also using allopathic
approaches.  It may or may not have been the alternative treatments.

IMHO, both approaches have their valid treaments, and a true complementary
mixing of them is best.   I have lost animals due to listening to vets who
were strictly holistic, and would never do that again.

On the other hand, it seems that using the immune system to help overcome
diseases is a solid approach, since that's how spontaneous remission seems
to work.   There are allopathic researchers that are now suggesting this,
and who are working on or have seemingly figured out how to induce this
natural response---in a higher percentage of cases than with conventional
cancer treatments (the latter which are reported in peer-reviewed journals,
so you can look them up; the former you have to read the hospitals'
reports).

That said, I doubt I would use black salve, having seen some pictures of
what it did to sensitive individuals.   Since holistic folks do not report
outcomes the way the allopaths do, it would be hard to figure out what its
success rate is.

Dr. Khalsa reported that she got rid of her cat's tumor using rice-based
(not-mushroom-based) PSP, but I was not able to get it into my cat no
matter what, so I can't verify any personal results.  I did notice a change
in quality of my cat's mammary tumor when I used DH water on her, but it
did not change the size nor stop its growth.   The oncologist was surprised
she'd lasted as long as she did without allopathic intervention, and
perhaps this was due to the supplements I was giving her.   However, I now
believe she would have had a better chance if I had removed the tumor right
away, as that cancer is so aggressive in cats.  I may also have tried to
reduce it via Dr. Khalsa's approach of getting the immune system up for
reducing the tumor, but that would be a bit risky, given the statistical
outcomes based on the size of tumor when it's removed.   As with Steve
Jobs, sometimes it might be best to go the allopathic route---especially if
they've figured something out.

I believe that Richard Feynman was prudent when he said true scientists
should stay open to whatever their data is telling them.


On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 10:34 AM, Ruth Parsons ruthjanu...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi
 I appreciate all the info on FELV this group provides. I research
 treatments suggested and look for a variety of reliable sources to help me
 care for our cat, who is presently thriving despite 2 positive tests. The
 recent postings regarding black salve and Deva Khalsa gave me some
 concern. The links below, and others, raise issues about this product and
 the products promoted by this person. Just FYI.

 1. http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/Cancer/eschar.html


 2.
 http://skeptvet.com/Blog/2010/07/double-helix-water-more-magic-water-quackery/

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