Re: [Felvtalk] Help please - felv positive kitten

[Amani Oakley]

Hi Wendy

Sounds like you have everything well under control. I think that the fact that 
he was put on four weeks of Doxy for the Bartonella will also help for FeLV, 
though my sense is that I would have kept him on it for another two weeks.

Just keep an eye for any signs of anemia. Keep checking his gums, the inside of 
his ears and his pads. You say his blood work is perfect. Are his reticulocytes 
okay? These are immature red blood cells and they will be depressed with FeLV. 
As long as his haematocrit, haemoglobin and reticulocyte counts are good, you 
are fine.

Amani

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Subject: [Felvtalk] Help please - felv positive kitten

Hello,

We rescued a stray kitten, and he is felv positive.  He is approximately 9 
months old.  He is quarantined.  His blood work is perfect.  He is not 
exhibiting any other felv symptoms.  We treated him for giardia, and tests show 
he is cured of that.  We treated him with doxycycline for 4 weeks for 
bartonella, and he is due to get retested for bartonella at the end of this 
month.  We are giving him rx zyme, rx biotic, and rx essentials in the morning, 
and 1/2 moducare vet in the evening.  We also are giving him organic grain free 
food.

Can anyone recommend a vet who specializes in felv treatment in Ventura County, 
CA, in Southern California, or elsewhere in California?  I called UC Davis, as 
we’d be willing to take our cat to Northern California, but no one has returned 
the calls.  Our local vet admittedly does not treat felv, and we want the best 
for our little cat.  From reading in this group, it seems that our vet is not 
on top of all of the tests and what those results mean.

Also, can anyone recommend any other treatments that we should add or change at 
this point?

Thank you,

Wendy
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[Felvtalk] Help please - felv positive kitten

[Mrs MCSE]

Hello,

We rescued a stray kitten, and he is felv positive.  He is approximately 9 
months old.  He is quarantined.  His blood work is perfect.  He is not 
exhibiting any other felv symptoms.  We treated him for giardia, and tests show 
he is cured of that.  We treated him with doxycycline for 4 weeks for 
bartonella, and he is due to get retested for bartonella at the end of this 
month.  We are giving him rx zyme, rx biotic, and rx essentials in the morning, 
and 1/2 moducare vet in the evening.  We also are giving him organic grain free 
food.

Can anyone recommend a vet who specializes in felv treatment in Ventura County, 
CA, in Southern California, or elsewhere in California?  I called UC Davis, as 
we’d be willing to take our cat to Northern California, but no one has returned 
the calls.  Our local vet admittedly does not treat felv, and we want the best 
for our little cat.  From reading in this group, it seems that our vet is not 
on top of all of the tests and what those results mean.

Also, can anyone recommend any other treatments that we should add or change at 
this point?

Thank you,

Wendy
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Re: [Felvtalk] Help with Ash, Coles brother

[dlgegg]

lAmani, what would we do without your knowledge.  Really appreciate you.


 Amani Oakley  wrote: 
> Hi Karen
> 
> I am able to read the bloodwork. I do not see what you mean by it coming 
> through jumbled. In my email, I am able to easily read the bloodwork.
> 
> The blood work looks pretty good actually. The only thing that is low and 
> concerning is the platelet count, but there are clots in the bloodwork, so 
> that has pulled out the platelets from normal circulation. Thus, it is 
> impossible to tell whether the platelet count is actually low or falsely 
> reading low because of the clotting in the blood. (Next time – ask the vet 
> assistant to immediately mix the tube drawn for the haematology blood work. 
> For haematology tests, the tube contains an anticoagulant to stop the blood 
> from clotting but if the blood is not mixed fairly immediately after the 
> blood is collected, you will get clotting.)
> 
> The neutrophil component of the white cells has jumped and is a bit elevated, 
> and there are neutrophilic bands, which are immature neutrophilic cells. 
> Elevated neutrophils suggests a bacterial infection. Try a broad spectrum 
> antibiotic, since you don’t know whether the bacteria is a Gram negative or a 
> Gram positive organism. Orbax (Orbifloxacin) is such an antibiotic. I suspect 
> that the injection your vet also gave Ash, is Gravol or some such thing, that 
> acts to reduce nausea and vomiting. This probably settled his stomach and 
> that is why he is feeling better.
> 
> From the bloodwork, Karen, there is nothing to worry about. This is a 
> transient bacterial infection.
> 
> Amani
> 
> P.S. – I had to cut off your email in order to get this email to post on the 
> FeLV chatline. (BOY IS IT ANNOYING – couldn’t the limit be extended??? I had 
> to try to post this answer four times.)


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Re: [Felvtalk] Help with Ash, Coles brother

[Amani Oakley]

Hi Karen

I am able to read the bloodwork. I do not see what you mean by it coming 
through jumbled. In my email, I am able to easily read the bloodwork.

The blood work looks pretty good actually. The only thing that is low and 
concerning is the platelet count, but there are clots in the bloodwork, so that 
has pulled out the platelets from normal circulation. Thus, it is impossible to 
tell whether the platelet count is actually low or falsely reading low because 
of the clotting in the blood. (Next time – ask the vet assistant to immediately 
mix the tube drawn for the haematology blood work. For haematology tests, the 
tube contains an anticoagulant to stop the blood from clotting but if the blood 
is not mixed fairly immediately after the blood is collected, you will get 
clotting.)

The neutrophil component of the white cells has jumped and is a bit elevated, 
and there are neutrophilic bands, which are immature neutrophilic cells. 
Elevated neutrophils suggests a bacterial infection. Try a broad spectrum 
antibiotic, since you don’t know whether the bacteria is a Gram negative or a 
Gram positive organism. Orbax (Orbifloxacin) is such an antibiotic. I suspect 
that the injection your vet also gave Ash, is Gravol or some such thing, that 
acts to reduce nausea and vomiting. This probably settled his stomach and that 
is why he is feeling better.

From the bloodwork, Karen, there is nothing to worry about. This is a transient 
bacterial infection.

Amani

P.S. – I had to cut off your email in order to get this email to post on the 
FeLV chatline. (BOY IS IT ANNOYING – couldn’t the limit be extended??? I had to 
try to post this answer four times.)
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[Felvtalk] Help with Ash, Coles brother

[Karen Harshbarger]

 two months ago we lost our sweet Cole to liver failure,  anemia, blood 
clotting tests was off the charts it was so thin, who knows what else (possible 
infection from fleas), and feline leukemia. He died in my arms.  Don't know 
which is worse, having to make the decision to help them cross over or having 
them gasp for their last breath in your arms.  It all started with Cole not 
wanting to eat.  Now his brother Ash stopped eating yesterday and I am scared 
to death.    If anyone has some advice, it would be greatly appreciated.
Today we took Ash to the vet because he had not eaten for 24 hours and threw up 
first white mucus and then pinkish mucus later.  the vet said he had a very 
high fever.  Here is the results of the bloodwork for two months ago when we 
had him and his two brothers tested and current bloodwork.  Ashs blood work is 
much better than Coles was, so I hope more can be done for Ash and pray we do 
not loose him two.
First numbers are the range, second numbers are 8/10, and third numbers are 
today 10/20     range            8/10/16           nowcatalyst dx
Glu (74-159)       97mg/dl   139 mg/dLBUn   (16-36)         25          
        15    LOWCrea   (0.8-2.4)      1.6                 1.4  
Bun/crea                 16                  11Phos   (3.1-7.5)      4.6        
         3.2Ca   (7.8-11.3)    9.0                  8.5tp (5.7-8.9) 
     7.3 g/dl          7.9 g/dl   alb(2.2-4.0)     3.3          
       3.4glob  (2.8-5.1)     4.0                 4.5ALB/GLOB               
0.8                 0.8alt         (12-130)     40u/l               36u/lalkp   
   (14-111)      28                  19
ggt    (0-4)            0                     0 tbil         (0.0-0.9)     
0.1                 0.3chol  (65-225)     126                97amyl   
(500-1500)   972 u/l 1357 u/llipa (100-1400)   438               
411 na   (150-165)     161mmol/L  159mmol/Lk (3.5-5.8)         3.4  
  3.8na/k                            47 42cl
 (112-129)     124   120osm calc                   320              
  316
procyta dxrbc     (6.54-12.20)   7.98m/ul      8.48m/ulhct      (30.3-52.3)     
37.7!%         37.8%hgb    (9.8-16.2)        12.4 g/dl     13.0g/dlmcv    
(35.9-53.1)      47.2 fl          44.6 fl  mch   (11.8-17.3)      15.5pg        
 15.3 pgmchc  (11.8-17.3)      32.9g/dl       34.4g/dlrdw     (15.0-27.0)      
22.9%          25.6%%retic                           0,2%            0.0%retic  
   (3.0-50.0)       13.6 k/ul       3.4k/ulwbc     (2.87-17.2)     6.02         
      10.95%neu                           67.8%            78.1%%lym            
                19.6               18.4%mono                        2.8         
        1.5%eos                            8.8                 1.2%basoneu      
(1.48-10.29)   4.08k/ul         8.56      band suspendedlym      (0.92-6.88)    
  1.18               2.01mono  (0.05-0.67)       0.17              0.16eos     
(0.17-1.57)        0.53              0.13       LOWbasoplt        (151-600)     
     45                 24         LOW       plt aggregates detected
WBC abnormal distributionPLT aggregates detectedband neutrophil,s suspected 
tested positive for feline leukemia on snap test two months ago and now.  Also 
tested positive back before year old.  and tested negatived two times while one 
year old. all of this have been the in officce feline leukemia test.  He is now 
a little ove 4 years old.  Ashs brother (Cole) tested the same before death two 
months ago with a positive, then two negatives, and recently positive.  Ashs 
other brother tested positive one time and has been negative ever since.  the 3 
brothers were housed together and the surviving two brothers Ash and BJ are 
still housed together,
The vet gave him an injection that they said would help his upset stomach and 
high temp but I just noticed they let that off of the statement so I do not 
know what it was.  and they gave me Orbax 20 ml to give for the next 10 days 
once a day.  Ash is back to normal self---eating and active again and has had 
one dose of  Orbax plus injection of some sort in the vet office  No fluids or 
anything else has been given to Ash.
I have another appointment tomorrow for Ash with the vet for checkup and to 
make sure fever is gone.  Any suggestions would be so so appreciated,
Karen Harshbarger and Ash







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Re: [Felvtalk] Help Understanding Labs

[Amani Oakley]

Normally, with FeLV, the lymphocytes go up, not down.

Amani

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Corinne Shank
Sent: September-26-16 12:54 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Help Understanding Labs

The creatinine was at 1.5 and the bun was at 26 so well within normal.  I was 
more concerned about the Lymphocytes which was at 18 and the Absolute 
lymphocyte which was at 864.

I was wondering if I should go ahead and get the IFA test done.  I think I am 
hoping against hope as I think I know that she does have Felv.   I wish that I 
could treat her ear problems but it does not seem that any treatment has 
worked.  

 
On Sep 25, 2016, at 8:04 PM, Amani Oakley <aoak...@oakleylegal.com> wrote:

> If there were blood clots, then that takes the platelets out of the blood. 
> Clots are made up of platelets, so the platelets are no longer "loose" and 
> the machine can therefore not detect the platelets.
> 
> What was the creatinine and urea? I don't think I would be too worried about 
> the sodium and albumin (though you haven't given me actual numbers) unless it 
> is early renal signs, so if the creatinine and urea are okay, and the sodium 
> and albumin are just a bit out of range, I wouldn't be too concerned.
> 
> Amani
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
> Corinne Shank
> Sent: September-25-16 12:35 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: [Felvtalk] Help Understanding Labs
> 
> My 7.5 Y/O cat tested positive (ELISA) for Felv about a month ago.  She had 
> yeast ear infections that would not go away and had lost weight so I had her 
> tested to see if there was a problem with her immune system and blood workup. 
>  When my vet told me that she tested positive of FELV, she said that she also 
> had some blood work issues.  I was just devastated by the news so I kind of 
> blanked out what she said (especially as the vet said it basically was a 
> death sentence).  So this past week I asked for a copy of her blood work.  
> When she had her blood work she had just finished 2 weeks of Fluconazole 
> (systematic fungal medication)  as the vet thought this would help her yeast 
> ear infection.What popped out of the blood work was Albumin (high), 
> Sodium (high), platelet count (really low), lymphocytes (low),  and Absolute 
> Limphocy (low).  A note at the bottom of the test said that clots are 
> detected in the sample and CBC results may be affected. Does anyone know what 
> this all
  m
> eans? The platelet count was so low that if it was accurate,  I thought she 
> should would have bled to death by now.   I am wondering if the fungal 
> medication had any effect on her blood work.  I think the medication was hard 
> on her body.   My cat has been more active this past week but I have noticed 
> that she goes in cycles of where she wants to eat and does not want to eat.   
>
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Help Understanding Labs

[Corinne Shank]

The creatinine was at 1.5 and the bun was at 26 so well within normal.  I was 
more concerned about the Lymphocytes which was at 18 and the Absolute 
lymphocyte which was at 864.

I was wondering if I should go ahead and get the IFA test done.  I think I am 
hoping against hope as I think I know that she does have Felv.   I wish that I 
could treat her ear problems but it does not seem that any treatment has 
worked.  

 
On Sep 25, 2016, at 8:04 PM, Amani Oakley <aoak...@oakleylegal.com> wrote:

> If there were blood clots, then that takes the platelets out of the blood. 
> Clots are made up of platelets, so the platelets are no longer "loose" and 
> the machine can therefore not detect the platelets.
> 
> What was the creatinine and urea? I don't think I would be too worried about 
> the sodium and albumin (though you haven't given me actual numbers) unless it 
> is early renal signs, so if the creatinine and urea are okay, and the sodium 
> and albumin are just a bit out of range, I wouldn't be too concerned.
> 
> Amani
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
> Corinne Shank
> Sent: September-25-16 12:35 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: [Felvtalk] Help Understanding Labs
> 
> My 7.5 Y/O cat tested positive (ELISA) for Felv about a month ago.  She had 
> yeast ear infections that would not go away and had lost weight so I had her 
> tested to see if there was a problem with her immune system and blood workup. 
>  When my vet told me that she tested positive of FELV, she said that she also 
> had some blood work issues.  I was just devastated by the news so I kind of 
> blanked out what she said (especially as the vet said it basically was a 
> death sentence).  So this past week I asked for a copy of her blood work.  
> When she had her blood work she had just finished 2 weeks of Fluconazole 
> (systematic fungal medication)  as the vet thought this would help her yeast 
> ear infection.What popped out of the blood work was Albumin (high), 
> Sodium (high), platelet count (really low), lymphocytes (low),  and Absolute 
> Limphocy (low).  A note at the bottom of the test said that clots are 
> detected in the sample and CBC results may be affected. Does anyone know what 
> this all
  m
> eans? The platelet count was so low that if it was accurate,  I thought she 
> should would have bled to death by now.   I am wondering if the fungal 
> medication had any effect on her blood work.  I think the medication was hard 
> on her body.   My cat has been more active this past week but I have noticed 
> that she goes in cycles of where she wants to eat and does not want to eat.   
>
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Help Understanding Labs

[Amani Oakley]

If there were blood clots, then that takes the platelets out of the blood. 
Clots are made up of platelets, so the platelets are no longer "loose" and the 
machine can therefore not detect the platelets.

What was the creatinine and urea? I don't think I would be too worried about 
the sodium and albumin (though you haven't given me actual numbers) unless it 
is early renal signs, so if the creatinine and urea are okay, and the sodium 
and albumin are just a bit out of range, I wouldn't be too concerned.

Amani

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From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
Corinne Shank
Sent: September-25-16 12:35 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Help Understanding Labs

My 7.5 Y/O cat tested positive (ELISA) for Felv about a month ago.  She had 
yeast ear infections that would not go away and had lost weight so I had her 
tested to see if there was a problem with her immune system and blood workup.  
When my vet told me that she tested positive of FELV, she said that she also 
had some blood work issues.  I was just devastated by the news so I kind of 
blanked out what she said (especially as the vet said it basically was a death 
sentence).  So this past week I asked for a copy of her blood work.  When she 
had her blood work she had just finished 2 weeks of Fluconazole (systematic 
fungal medication)  as the vet thought this would help her yeast ear infection. 
   What popped out of the blood work was Albumin (high), Sodium (high), 
platelet count (really low), lymphocytes (low),  and Absolute Limphocy (low).  
A note at the bottom of the test said that clots are detected in the sample and 
CBC results may be affected. Does anyone know what this all m
 eans? The platelet count was so low that if it was accurate,  I thought she 
should would have bled to death by now.   I am wondering if the fungal 
medication had any effect on her blood work.  I think the medication was hard 
on her body.   My cat has been more active this past week but I have noticed 
that she goes in cycles of where she wants to eat and does not want to eat. 
 





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[Felvtalk] Help Understanding Labs

[Corinne Shank]

My 7.5 Y/O cat tested positive (ELISA) for Felv about a month ago.  She had 
yeast ear infections that would not go away and had lost weight so I had her 
tested to see if there was a problem with her immune system and blood workup.  
When my vet told me that she tested positive of FELV, she said that she also 
had some blood work issues.  I was just devastated by the news so I kind of 
blanked out what she said (especially as the vet said it basically was a death 
sentence).  So this past week I asked for a copy of her blood work.  When she 
had her blood work she had just finished 2 weeks of Fluconazole (systematic 
fungal medication)  as the vet thought this would help her yeast ear infection. 
   What popped out of the blood work was Albumin (high), Sodium (high), 
platelet count (really low), lymphocytes (low),  and Absolute Limphocy (low).  
A note at the bottom of the test said that clots are detected in the sample and 
CBC results may be affected. Does anyone know what this all m
 eans? The platelet count was so low that if it was accurate,  I thought she 
should would have bled to death by now.   I am wondering if the fungal 
medication had any effect on her blood work.  I think the medication was hard 
on her body.   My cat has been more active this past week but I have noticed 
that she goes in cycles of where she wants to eat and does not want to eat. 
 





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Re: [Felvtalk] Help with Yeast Infection

[dlgegg]

Just remembered that when my standard poodle had mites, he groomer used 
powdered sulpher in her ears.  Cleared them up fast.


 Sandy <swacht1...@comcast.net> wrote: 
> Might check ou this web site - currently, I have kittens with ear mites - 
> planning to use this treatment - good luck - sure isn't harmful either!! 
> Sandy W 
> 
> 
> http://www.petnet.io/pet_health_blogs/holistic-healing-for-cats-apple-cider-vinegar#.V9GIPSgrKUk
>  
> 
> - Original Message -
> 
> From: "Katherine K." <kaths...@gmail.com> 
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
> Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 8:23:28 AM 
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Help with Yeast Infection 
> 
> Welcome to the group, Corrine. I am very sorry about your kitty's diagnosis 
> but we are here to support you and her. I don't have any experience with ear 
> yeast infections in cats but others on the list may. If you are also on 
> Facebook there is an "Owners of FeLV+/FIV+ Cats" private group that is pretty 
> active too. 
> 
> On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 10:24 PM, Corinne Shank < cms9...@hotmail.com > wrote: 
> 
> 
> My cat who is 7.5 years old has had on and off yeast ear infections for the 
> past 2 years. After the last infection that did not respond to treatment, I 
> asked the vet to see if she had any immune deficiency issues as I had read 
> that yeast was opportunistic where cats have a suppressed immune system. 
> Unfortunately the test for Felv (Elisa) came back positive. I am just 
> devastated as she is my little princess. When I got her as a kitten, she had 
> tested positive but tested negative a month later. I was told that if a 
> kitten tested negative after positive, that she had shed the virus and would 
> be free of Felv. I guess that is not the case. I would have never brought her 
> home if I had any idea that she was positive as I have another cat who was 
> and still is Felv negative. 
> 
> So the problem I have now is what to do with her ears. The vet said to use 
> Gentizol every couple of days to keep the infection down. Are there any other 
> recommendations? 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Help with Yeast Infection

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My Annie who still tests positive is Healthy, active and rules the roost.  
Harley who is 18lbs, a great hunter and has an attitude, walks around Annie 
always with his eyes on her.  He only problem is hayfever.  Like me, when 
ragweed and horseweed are in bloom, he has runny eyes, sneezes and a runny 
nose.  If she stays inside, she has no problems.  If she seems healthy other 
than the ear infection, I would not worry about her.  Have you looked into 
herbal treatments for her ears?  I rely on herbs for myself and my cats, 
starting with Bragg's raw vinegar, I put a dropper full in ther water every 
time I refill their fountains.  This is for Harley who had a problem with urine 
crystals.  Since his first round, no more.  Check out herbs for yeast problems 
with a holistic vet.


 Corinne Shank  wrote: 
> My cat who is 7.5 years old has had on and off yeast ear infections for the 
> past 2 years.  After the last infection that did not respond to treatment,  I 
> asked the vet to see if she had any immune deficiency issues as I had read 
> that yeast was opportunistic where cats have a suppressed immune system.  
> Unfortunately the test for Felv (Elisa) came back positive.   I am just 
> devastated as she is my little princess.   When I got her as a kitten,  she 
> had tested positive but tested negative a month later.  I was told that if a 
> kitten tested negative after positive,  that she had shed the virus and would 
> be free of Felv.   I guess that is not the case.I would have never 
> brought her home if I had any idea that she was positive as I have another 
> cat who was and still is Felv negative.  
> 
> So the problem I have now is what to do with her ears.   The vet said to use 
> Gentizol every couple of days to keep the infection down.  Are there any 
> other recommendations?  
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Re: [Felvtalk] Help with Yeast Infection

[Sandy]

Might check ou this web site - currently, I have kittens with ear mites - 
planning to use this treatment - good luck - sure isn't harmful either!! 
Sandy W 


http://www.petnet.io/pet_health_blogs/holistic-healing-for-cats-apple-cider-vinegar#.V9GIPSgrKUk
 

- Original Message -

From: "Katherine K." <kaths...@gmail.com> 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 8:23:28 AM 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Help with Yeast Infection 

Welcome to the group, Corrine. I am very sorry about your kitty's diagnosis but 
we are here to support you and her. I don't have any experience with ear yeast 
infections in cats but others on the list may. If you are also on Facebook 
there is an "Owners of FeLV+/FIV+ Cats" private group that is pretty active 
too. 

On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 10:24 PM, Corinne Shank < cms9...@hotmail.com > wrote: 


My cat who is 7.5 years old has had on and off yeast ear infections for the 
past 2 years. After the last infection that did not respond to treatment, I 
asked the vet to see if she had any immune deficiency issues as I had read that 
yeast was opportunistic where cats have a suppressed immune system. 
Unfortunately the test for Felv (Elisa) came back positive. I am just 
devastated as she is my little princess. When I got her as a kitten, she had 
tested positive but tested negative a month later. I was told that if a kitten 
tested negative after positive, that she had shed the virus and would be free 
of Felv. I guess that is not the case. I would have never brought her home if I 
had any idea that she was positive as I have another cat who was and still is 
Felv negative. 

So the problem I have now is what to do with her ears. The vet said to use 
Gentizol every couple of days to keep the infection down. Are there any other 
recommendations? 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Help with Yeast Infection

[Katherine K.]

Welcome to the group, Corrine. I am very sorry about your kitty's diagnosis
but we are here to support you and her. I don't have any experience with
ear yeast infections in cats but others on the list may. If you are also on
Facebook there is an "Owners of FeLV+/FIV+ Cats" private group that is
pretty active too.

On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 10:24 PM, Corinne Shank  wrote:

> My cat who is 7.5 years old has had on and off yeast ear infections for
> the past 2 years.  After the last infection that did not respond to
> treatment,  I asked the vet to see if she had any immune deficiency issues
> as I had read that yeast was opportunistic where cats have a suppressed
> immune system.  Unfortunately the test for Felv (Elisa) came back
> positive.   I am just devastated as she is my little princess.   When I got
> her as a kitten,  she had tested positive but tested negative a month
> later.  I was told that if a kitten tested negative after positive,  that
> she had shed the virus and would be free of Felv.   I guess that is not the
> case.I would have never brought her home if I had any idea that she was
> positive as I have another cat who was and still is Felv negative.
>
> So the problem I have now is what to do with her ears.   The vet said to
> use Gentizol every couple of days to keep the infection down.  Are there
> any other recommendations?
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[Felvtalk] Help with Yeast Infection

[Corinne Shank]

My cat who is 7.5 years old has had on and off yeast ear infections for the 
past 2 years.  After the last infection that did not respond to treatment,  I 
asked the vet to see if she had any immune deficiency issues as I had read that 
yeast was opportunistic where cats have a suppressed immune system.  
Unfortunately the test for Felv (Elisa) came back positive.   I am just 
devastated as she is my little princess.   When I got her as a kitten,  she had 
tested positive but tested negative a month later.  I was told that if a kitten 
tested negative after positive,  that she had shed the virus and would be free 
of Felv.   I guess that is not the case.I would have never brought her home 
if I had any idea that she was positive as I have another cat who was and still 
is Felv negative.  

So the problem I have now is what to do with her ears.   The vet said to use 
Gentizol every couple of days to keep the infection down.  Are there any other 
recommendations?  
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Re: [Felvtalk] help /advice - testing age of kittens

[dlgegg]

ANNA, vets here also give up on positive cats.  I have one that is now 8 years 
old, with no signs of illness.  I think it depends on the cat, the caregiver, 
the kind of food thy get that determines the future.  I vaccinate my other cats 
and do not vaccinate Annie who is positive.  I do not separate them.  When ever 
a new one shows u, they go to the vet right away for a checkup and shots.  I 
keep them separate for a few days to make sure they do not have any illness and 
then they have the run of the house.

 Anna Summers  wrote: 
> Thank you Lorrie,  “ Snuggles “ is very healthy  and doesnt seem to have any 
> sort off illness , just eats alot but I have seen how the virus is so silent 
> and then just takes over them.

I am nervous about testing too soon and that he might test positive due to the 
antibodies of the virus from the mother … do they leave their system eventually 
 ?

Will keep you posted, you are all such a wonderful group , I follow all the 
post/emails .
Anna


> On 25 Jan 2016, at 15:59, Lorrie  wrote:
> 
> Hi Anna,  I rescue and have many cats. Testing them at 3 or 4 months
> old is usually a good time to see if they are positive or negative. 
> I have lost many positive kittens who were born with the virus which
> they contracted from their mother. However some can throw off the
> virus. If your kitten who is approximately 4 months old had a
> positive mother he could still be positive, but he may have an strong
> immune system and be fine. With younger kittens I always test twice
> once at about 8 weeks and again at around 4 months to be sure of the
> status.  Please let us know how this kitten is?  Hopefully he will
> test negative.
> 
> Lorrie 
> 
> On 01-25, Anna Summers wrote:
> 
>> Hi , I live in spain in a very rural are  & last year I lost 2 cats
>> who were felv + , they were not in contacted with my house cats but
>> one of them ( 9yrs old ) is latent positive DNA with a low reading
>> of the virus , I did a quantative pcr , he was negative in the
>> elisa test and I was told that he is not contagious . my other 2
>> cats are vacinated against fel. my question ???..
> 
>> As I see yourselves are up to date with all the latest things  -
>> someone left a kitten on my wall just before christmas - he is now
>> been in ??? quarantine??? for 5 weeks , he is about 4 months old , I
>> need to test him but when is the right time to test kittens as I
>> have read many article re: the anitbodies of the mother so a kitten
>> can test false positive. I am keen to know , as he is on his own
>> and hopefully he will be negative so I then can vaccinate him as I
>> am also told that, are they any special test to do this , I dont
>> want to do the basic snap test and I am happy to do the elisa and a
>> pcr test. Hope you can help me , here in the area a live in which
>> is very rural ,lots of ferral cat the vets just give up on felv + ,
>> so I dont wont to ask my vet until I am up to date with all the
>> information. thank you anna
>> 
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[dlgegg]

I also had a snuggles who lived to 19

 Anna Summers  wrote: 
> Thank you Lorrie,  “ Snuggles “ is very healthy  and doesnt seem to have any 
> sort off illness , just eats alot but I have seen how the virus is so silent 
> and then just takes over them.

I am nervous about testing too soon and that he might test positive due to the 
antibodies of the virus from the mother … do they leave their system eventually 
 ?

Will keep you posted, you are all such a wonderful group , I follow all the 
post/emails .
Anna


> On 25 Jan 2016, at 15:59, Lorrie  wrote:
> 
> Hi Anna,  I rescue and have many cats. Testing them at 3 or 4 months
> old is usually a good time to see if they are positive or negative. 
> I have lost many positive kittens who were born with the virus which
> they contracted from their mother. However some can throw off the
> virus. If your kitten who is approximately 4 months old had a
> positive mother he could still be positive, but he may have an strong
> immune system and be fine. With younger kittens I always test twice
> once at about 8 weeks and again at around 4 months to be sure of the
> status.  Please let us know how this kitten is?  Hopefully he will
> test negative.
> 
> Lorrie 
> 
> On 01-25, Anna Summers wrote:
> 
>> Hi , I live in spain in a very rural are  & last year I lost 2 cats
>> who were felv + , they were not in contacted with my house cats but
>> one of them ( 9yrs old ) is latent positive DNA with a low reading
>> of the virus , I did a quantative pcr , he was negative in the
>> elisa test and I was told that he is not contagious . my other 2
>> cats are vacinated against fel. my question ???..
> 
>> As I see yourselves are up to date with all the latest things  -
>> someone left a kitten on my wall just before christmas - he is now
>> been in ??? quarantine??? for 5 weeks , he is about 4 months old , I
>> need to test him but when is the right time to test kittens as I
>> have read many article re: the anitbodies of the mother so a kitten
>> can test false positive. I am keen to know , as he is on his own
>> and hopefully he will be negative so I then can vaccinate him as I
>> am also told that, are they any special test to do this , I dont
>> want to do the basic snap test and I am happy to do the elisa and a
>> pcr test. Hope you can help me , here in the area a live in which
>> is very rural ,lots of ferral cat the vets just give up on felv + ,
>> so I dont wont to ask my vet until I am up to date with all the
>> information. thank you anna
>> 
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[Lorrie]

Hi Anna,  I rescue and have many cats. Testing them at 3 or 4 months
old is usually a good time to see if they are positive or negative. 
I have lost many positive kittens who were born with the virus which
they contracted from their mother. However some can throw off the
virus. If your kitten who is approximately 4 months old had a
positive mother he could still be positive, but he may have an strong
immune system and be fine. With younger kittens I always test twice
once at about 8 weeks and again at around 4 months to be sure of the
status.  Please let us know how this kitten is?  Hopefully he will
test negative.

Lorrie 

On 01-25, Anna Summers wrote:

> Hi , I live in spain in a very rural are  & last year I lost 2 cats
> who were felv + , they were not in contacted with my house cats but
> one of them ( 9yrs old ) is latent positive DNA with a low reading
> of the virus , I did a quantative pcr , he was negative in the
> elisa test and I was told that he is not contagious . my other 2
> cats are vacinated against fel. my question ???..

> As I see yourselves are up to date with all the latest things  -
> someone left a kitten on my wall just before christmas - he is now
> been in ??? quarantine??? for 5 weeks , he is about 4 months old , I
> need to test him but when is the right time to test kittens as I
> have read many article re: the anitbodies of the mother so a kitten
> can test false positive. I am keen to know , as he is on his own
> and hopefully he will be negative so I then can vaccinate him as I
> am also told that, are they any special test to do this , I dont
> want to do the basic snap test and I am happy to do the elisa and a
> pcr test. Hope you can help me , here in the area a live in which
> is very rural ,lots of ferral cat the vets just give up on felv + ,
> so I dont wont to ask my vet until I am up to date with all the
> information. thank you anna
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[Anna Summers]

Thank you Lorrie,  “ Snuggles “ is very healthy  and doesnt seem to have any 
sort off illness , just eats alot but I have seen how the virus is so silent 
and then just takes over them.

I am nervous about testing too soon and that he might test positive due to the 
antibodies of the virus from the mother … do they leave their system eventually 
 ?

Will keep you posted, you are all such a wonderful group , I follow all the 
post/emails .
Anna


> On 25 Jan 2016, at 15:59, Lorrie  wrote:
> 
> Hi Anna,  I rescue and have many cats. Testing them at 3 or 4 months
> old is usually a good time to see if they are positive or negative. 
> I have lost many positive kittens who were born with the virus which
> they contracted from their mother. However some can throw off the
> virus. If your kitten who is approximately 4 months old had a
> positive mother he could still be positive, but he may have an strong
> immune system and be fine. With younger kittens I always test twice
> once at about 8 weeks and again at around 4 months to be sure of the
> status.  Please let us know how this kitten is?  Hopefully he will
> test negative.
> 
> Lorrie 
> 
> On 01-25, Anna Summers wrote:
> 
>> Hi , I live in spain in a very rural are  & last year I lost 2 cats
>> who were felv + , they were not in contacted with my house cats but
>> one of them ( 9yrs old ) is latent positive DNA with a low reading
>> of the virus , I did a quantative pcr , he was negative in the
>> elisa test and I was told that he is not contagious . my other 2
>> cats are vacinated against fel. my question ???..
> 
>> As I see yourselves are up to date with all the latest things  -
>> someone left a kitten on my wall just before christmas - he is now
>> been in ??? quarantine??? for 5 weeks , he is about 4 months old , I
>> need to test him but when is the right time to test kittens as I
>> have read many article re: the anitbodies of the mother so a kitten
>> can test false positive. I am keen to know , as he is on his own
>> and hopefully he will be negative so I then can vaccinate him as I
>> am also told that, are they any special test to do this , I dont
>> want to do the basic snap test and I am happy to do the elisa and a
>> pcr test. Hope you can help me , here in the area a live in which
>> is very rural ,lots of ferral cat the vets just give up on felv + ,
>> so I dont wont to ask my vet until I am up to date with all the
>> information. thank you anna
>> 
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[Anna Summers]

Hi , I live in spain in a very rural are  & last year I lost 2 cats  who were 
felv +  , they were not in contacted with my house cats  but one of  them  ( 
9yrs old )  is  latent  positive DNA  with a low reading of the virus ,  I did 
a quantative  pcr  , he was negative in the elisa test and I was told that he 
is not contagious . my other 2 cats are vacinated  against fel.
my question …..
As I see yourselves are up to date with all the latest things  - someone  left 
a kitten on my wall just before christmas - he is now been in “ quarantine” for 
5 weeks , he is about 4months old , I need to test him  but when is the right 
time to test kittens as I have read many article re: the anitbodies of the 
mother so a kitten can test false positive.
I am keen to know , as he is on his own and hopefully he will be negative  so I 
then can vaccinate him  as I am also told that, are they any special test to do 
this , I dont want to do the basic snap test and I am happy to do the elisa and 
a pcr test.
Hope you can help me , here in the area a live in which is very rural ,lots of 
ferral cat  the vets  just give up on felv + , so I dont wont to ask my vet  
until I am up to date with all the information.
thank you 
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Re: [Felvtalk] help for Charlie

[Katherine K.]

Hi Emily,

I don't have enough experience to offer you any real insight or advice
about your situation, but I just wanted to let you know that I'm sorry you
and Charlie are going through this right now. I know how it is to be
stressed out and frustrated about tests, vet expenses, and not knowing the
best solution for your little friend. But like you said, it's great that
he's acting like his happy self at the moment. Take video of him doing his
favorite things while he is still happy and healthy, you will enjoy it
later.

If you are new to the list, searching/browsing the mail archives can be
helpful when considering different treatments, symptoms, etc.
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Please keep us posted. Sending good thoughts to Charlie!

Katherine


On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 10:43 PM, Emily Cordeaux ecorde...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Hi everyone,

 I'm looking for some help in determining next steps for our cat Charlie.
 We adopted our beloved Charlie three years ago from a shelter. He is now
 about four years old. We found out in December while doing routine tests
 that he has feline leukemia (at the time trying to figure out the cause of
 his IBS- switching his food ended up doing the trick). We were quite
 surprised- at the time the only symptom that matched were his gums were
 relatively inflamed.

 At the end of March / beginning of April Charlie became ill. He lost
 weight and became lethargic. He kept eating but needed me to keep bringing
 his food to him in order for him to eat. He underwent different tests- the
 xrays/blood tests showed that his organs were fine. There was however some
 bacteria in his urine and so we thought it might be an infection. He also
 had a slight fever and his white blood cell count was low. We tried him on
 an injectable antibiotic initially which didn't help, but then switched him
 to Baytril to which he has responded really well.

 Charlie started to become sick again once he finished his first round of
 Baytril, and so we put him back on the antibiotic. He also underwent more
 tests- this time there was no bacteria in his urine but his white blood
 cell count was still low. Since this time he has stayed on Baytril (we
 tried him on a stronger antibiotic but he couldn't stomach it and so we
 stayed put).

 Charlie for the past few weeks has seemed incredibly well. He is vibrant,
 affectionate, and he eats incredibly well (he's even put on a pound).
 However, his white blood cell count is plummeting. He went from a 3.1 on
 April 2nd, to a 2.7 on May 27th, to 1.8 on June 13th.

 At this point it seems as though this isn't the result of an infection,
 but the progression of his leukemia. Our vet has presented us with some
 options moving forward but I'm not sure of what we should do.

 What's challenging is that he is so happy and vibrant right now. We're
 really afraid of doing anything that might compromise that. He is his happy
 little cheeky self and we are making the most of every moment.

 Our vet has suggested a series of tests (more blood, xray, urine, bone
 marrow) and they don't seem like our best option. Some are really
 invasive-like a bone marrow biopsy-and incredibly costly. We've maxed out
 all our credit options paying for Charlie's treatments so far, and there is
 only so much more we can do.

 Our vet has also suggested that we try putting him on steroids to see if
 that boosts his white blood cell count. She mentioned however that if this
 is an aggressive infection (and not the progression of his leukemia) the
 steroid could worsen it. She hinted that this is an option that she would
 at least try. At this point we don't have much to lose, but again we don't
 want to compromise any quality time we do have with Charlie.

 Our other option is to just keep him on the Baytril, and let things run
 their course. We could also wait and put him on the steroid once things
 worsen.

 I'd really appreciate any insights anyone can provide. This has been
 harder than I ever could have imagined. We've fallen so hard for this
 little guy and it's just been one heartbreaking visit to the vet after
 another.

 Thank you in advance.

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[dlgegg]

Emily, I think I know how you feel,  I just went through a long, hard battle 
with Casey, my 17 year old.  She had a tumor inside her mouth, but that did not 
kill her, it was the vet's lack of attention to her dehydration and 
constipation that killed her.  I have a friend on another list (for cancer) who 
is very wiseand I have asked her if our tonic would help Charlie.  As soon as I 
hear from her I will let you know, or she may just contact you directly.  In 
the mean time, I will keep Charlie on my prayer list.


 Katherine K. kaths...@gmail.com wrote: 
 Hi Emily,
 
 I don't have enough experience to offer you any real insight or advice
 about your situation, but I just wanted to let you know that I'm sorry you
 and Charlie are going through this right now. I know how it is to be
 stressed out and frustrated about tests, vet expenses, and not knowing the
 best solution for your little friend. But like you said, it's great that
 he's acting like his happy self at the moment. Take video of him doing his
 favorite things while he is still happy and healthy, you will enjoy it
 later.
 
 If you are new to the list, searching/browsing the mail archives can be
 helpful when considering different treatments, symptoms, etc.
 http://www.mail-archive.com/felvtalk%40felineleukemia.org/maillist.html
 
 Please keep us posted. Sending good thoughts to Charlie!
 
 Katherine
 
 
 On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 10:43 PM, Emily Cordeaux ecorde...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  Hi everyone,
 
  I'm looking for some help in determining next steps for our cat Charlie.
  We adopted our beloved Charlie three years ago from a shelter. He is now
  about four years old. We found out in December while doing routine tests
  that he has feline leukemia (at the time trying to figure out the cause of
  his IBS- switching his food ended up doing the trick). We were quite
  surprised- at the time the only symptom that matched were his gums were
  relatively inflamed.
 
  At the end of March / beginning of April Charlie became ill. He lost
  weight and became lethargic. He kept eating but needed me to keep bringing
  his food to him in order for him to eat. He underwent different tests- the
  xrays/blood tests showed that his organs were fine. There was however some
  bacteria in his urine and so we thought it might be an infection. He also
  had a slight fever and his white blood cell count was low. We tried him on
  an injectable antibiotic initially which didn't help, but then switched him
  to Baytril to which he has responded really well.
 
  Charlie started to become sick again once he finished his first round of
  Baytril, and so we put him back on the antibiotic. He also underwent more
  tests- this time there was no bacteria in his urine but his white blood
  cell count was still low. Since this time he has stayed on Baytril (we
  tried him on a stronger antibiotic but he couldn't stomach it and so we
  stayed put).
 
  Charlie for the past few weeks has seemed incredibly well. He is vibrant,
  affectionate, and he eats incredibly well (he's even put on a pound).
  However, his white blood cell count is plummeting. He went from a 3.1 on
  April 2nd, to a 2.7 on May 27th, to 1.8 on June 13th.
 
  At this point it seems as though this isn't the result of an infection,
  but the progression of his leukemia. Our vet has presented us with some
  options moving forward but I'm not sure of what we should do.
 
  What's challenging is that he is so happy and vibrant right now. We're
  really afraid of doing anything that might compromise that. He is his happy
  little cheeky self and we are making the most of every moment.
 
  Our vet has suggested a series of tests (more blood, xray, urine, bone
  marrow) and they don't seem like our best option. Some are really
  invasive-like a bone marrow biopsy-and incredibly costly. We've maxed out
  all our credit options paying for Charlie's treatments so far, and there is
  only so much more we can do.
 
  Our vet has also suggested that we try putting him on steroids to see if
  that boosts his white blood cell count. She mentioned however that if this
  is an aggressive infection (and not the progression of his leukemia) the
  steroid could worsen it. She hinted that this is an option that she would
  at least try. At this point we don't have much to lose, but again we don't
  want to compromise any quality time we do have with Charlie.
 
  Our other option is to just keep him on the Baytril, and let things run
  their course. We could also wait and put him on the steroid once things
  worsen.
 
  I'd really appreciate any insights anyone can provide. This has been
  harder than I ever could have imagined. We've fallen so hard for this
  little guy and it's just been one heartbreaking visit to the vet after
  another.
 
  Thank you in advance.
 
  Emily
 
 
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[Felvtalk] help for Charlie

[Emily Cordeaux]

Hi everyone,

I'm looking for some help in determining next steps for our cat Charlie. We
adopted our beloved Charlie three years ago from a shelter. He is now about
four years old. We found out in December while doing routine tests that he
has feline leukemia (at the time trying to figure out the cause of his IBS-
switching his food ended up doing the trick). We were quite surprised- at
the time the only symptom that matched were his gums were relatively
inflamed.

At the end of March / beginning of April Charlie became ill. He lost weight
and became lethargic. He kept eating but needed me to keep bringing his
food to him in order for him to eat. He underwent different tests- the
xrays/blood tests showed that his organs were fine. There was however some
bacteria in his urine and so we thought it might be an infection. He also
had a slight fever and his white blood cell count was low. We tried him on
an injectable antibiotic initially which didn't help, but then switched him
to Baytril to which he has responded really well.

Charlie started to become sick again once he finished his first round of
Baytril, and so we put him back on the antibiotic. He also underwent more
tests- this time there was no bacteria in his urine but his white blood
cell count was still low. Since this time he has stayed on Baytril (we
tried him on a stronger antibiotic but he couldn't stomach it and so we
stayed put).

Charlie for the past few weeks has seemed incredibly well. He is vibrant,
affectionate, and he eats incredibly well (he's even put on a pound).
However, his white blood cell count is plummeting. He went from a 3.1 on
April 2nd, to a 2.7 on May 27th, to 1.8 on June 13th.

At this point it seems as though this isn't the result of an infection, but
the progression of his leukemia. Our vet has presented us with some options
moving forward but I'm not sure of what we should do.

What's challenging is that he is so happy and vibrant right now. We're
really afraid of doing anything that might compromise that. He is his happy
little cheeky self and we are making the most of every moment.

Our vet has suggested a series of tests (more blood, xray, urine, bone
marrow) and they don't seem like our best option. Some are really
invasive-like a bone marrow biopsy-and incredibly costly. We've maxed out
all our credit options paying for Charlie's treatments so far, and there is
only so much more we can do.

Our vet has also suggested that we try putting him on steroids to see if
that boosts his white blood cell count. She mentioned however that if this
is an aggressive infection (and not the progression of his leukemia) the
steroid could worsen it. She hinted that this is an option that she would
at least try. At this point we don't have much to lose, but again we don't
want to compromise any quality time we do have with Charlie.

Our other option is to just keep him on the Baytril, and let things run
their course. We could also wait and put him on the steroid once things
worsen.

I'd really appreciate any insights anyone can provide. This has been harder
than I ever could have imagined. We've fallen so hard for this little guy
and it's just been one heartbreaking visit to the vet after another.

Thank you in advance.

Emily
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Re: [Felvtalk] Help for Goldie and Tiger/URL for chipin acct

[dot winkler]

Hi - it's on http://farmingdalecats.chipin.com/cat-rescue-and-recovery
Thanks.  If you have any problems accessing it, let me know.  The photos are 
big and take up much of the space, so you have to move the screen to the right 
and you will see the chipin box.  


 From: Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2012 10:49 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Help for Goldie and Tiger
 

Dot, where is your Chipin page located?  I haven't been paying attention lately.

 
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 From: dot winkler venus7ora...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2012 12:26 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Help for Goldie and Tiger
 

Hi.  I was wondering if anyone had any ideas on how to raise money to help some 
of the cats in the Farmingdale colony that I have been taking care of for the 
past 2 years.  Two of them are in need of medical attention.  Goldie and Tiger. 
 Tiger has gotten much more affectionate and friendly with me the last 2 
months.  He lets me pick him up.  My goal is to adopt some of them out (some of 
the friendlier ones like him). I have been working on this goal for some time 
now.   But he has started to sneeze the last 2 months and I almost got him in 
the cage last week and this week I will surely catch him with the help of my 
sister.  I have gone through so much money this summer, I'm sure you all know 
the story, as I took in a stray from our neighborhood (now have 4 indoor cats). 
 Financially, I need some assistance with Tiger and Goldie.  I don't want to 
let them go the winter - Gldie obviously has something stuck in his mouth and 
probably needs anti b
 as well as a full workup.  I am hopeful that I can catch him also with a 
little persistance. Tiger shows much hope if vetted.  My sister-in-law has 
offered to  recover him.
 I have started a CHIPIN account.  I'm sure you all have seen it.  If anyone 
would like to donate and help out, it would be so much appreciated.  Tiger and 
Goldie would be relieved of their agony and it is heartbreaking to see them 
suffer with winter coming on.  I can't stand to watch it.  I want so much for 
the outcome of these cats to be a good one.  That is my goal.  If you find it 
in the goodness of your hearts to chip in even $1.00, it would be so wonderful 
as dollars add up.  Or if you have any other ideas of raising money.  I am in 
for surgery Nov 26th so time is of the essence as I have many dr appts and work 
is time-consuming.  Thanks to you all.  Dotty W.  Freehold, NJ





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Re: [Felvtalk] Help for Goldie and Tiger

[dot winkler]

Hi.  I was wondering if anyone had any ideas on how to raise money to help some 
of the cats in the Farmingdale colony that I have been taking care of for the 
past 2 years.  Two of them are in need of medical attention.  Goldie and Tiger. 
 Tiger has gotten much more affectionate and friendly with me the last 2 
months.  He lets me pick him up.  My goal is to adopt some of them out (some of 
the friendlier ones like him). I have been working on this goal for some time 
now.   But he has started to sneeze the last 2 months and I almost got him in 
the cage last week and this week I will surely catch him with the help of my 
sister.  I have gone through so much money this summer, I'm sure you all know 
the story, as I took in a stray from our neighborhood (now have 4 indoor cats). 
 Financially, I need some assistance with Tiger and Goldie.  I don't want to 
let them go the winter - Gldie obviously has something stuck in his mouth and 
probably needs anti b
 as well as a full workup.  I am hopeful that I can catch him also with a 
little persistance. Tiger shows much hope if vetted.  My sister-in-law has 
offered to  recover him.
 I have started a CHIPIN account.  I'm sure you all have seen it.  If anyone 
would like to donate and help out, it would be so much appreciated.  Tiger and 
Goldie would be relieved of their agony and it is heartbreaking to see them 
suffer with winter coming on.  I can't stand to watch it.  I want so much for 
the outcome of these cats to be a good one.  That is my goal.  If you find it 
in the goodness of your hearts to chip in even $1.00, it would be so wonderful 
as dollars add up.  Or if you have any other ideas of raising money.  I am in 
for surgery Nov 26th so time is of the essence as I have many dr appts and work 
is time-consuming.  Thanks to you all.  Dotty W.  Freehold, NJ



 From: dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Cc: Dawn Morrison dlmgreen1...@yahoo.com 
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2012 6:30 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: Advice
 

after the line about Pepcid, I got a bunch of gibberish, combination of numbers 
and letters and symbols.  what happened?


 Dawn Morrison dlmgreen1...@yahoo.com wrote: 
 I was confused by the cerenia because she is not vomiting but my vet said 
 maybe she is nauseous and that could be adding to her not wanting to eat. She 
 did mention it's 4 or 5 days on/off. Someone else suggested pepcid, which I 
 thought was odd but will bring it up 
 to my vet.
 Thanks for the food suggestions. I will try whatever I can. 
 This morning she was acting off again, although she did eat some dry food on 
 her own. It'll be a long weekend but I will do whatever I can for her. We 
 attempted to take her temp but that did not go so well. 
  
  
  
 Friday, October 19, 2012 12:08 AM
 
 
 
 
 From: 
 
 Christiane Biagi ti...@mindspring.com
 
 
 
 To: 
 felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Sounds like ur vet is trying to gether to get rid of any infection.  In terms 
 of eating, I think ur vet is right on—give her anything she’ll eat.  Some 
 things I’ve used are Gerber stage2 ham, or turkey or beef (has no garlic or 
 onion—just plain); tuna “water” (from can); yogurt is good if she’ll take 
 it—helps with nausea/diarrhea from antibiotics.  All my cats seem to devour 
 Fancy Feast (chicken classic)—its like catnip! Lol  Basically, I go thru 
 refrig  try everything—cold cuts, cheese, cottage cheese—not necessarily the 
 best diet long term but I figure something is always better than nothing.  
 Sometimes, heating the food in micro just to get it warm (and smelly) helps.  
 There’s also the food trappers use to lure ferals—warm Kentucky Fried Chicken 
 (little warm pieces without bones).  Its not easy  very frustrating so hang 
 in there….  
  
 
 
 From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
 Sharyl
 Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 11:33 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Advice
  
 
 
 Dee, I'm sorry your cat is having problems.  Cerenia is typically Rx'd as an 
 anti-emetic (vomiting).  Some vets also Rx it for nausea even though there 
 are better drugs to use for nausea.  Each kitty is unique and Cerenia does 
 seem to help fight nausea in some cats.  Most in the FAF yahoo group give it 
 for 4 days then take a day off.  Not sure what you vet recommended.  The FAF 
 list members have found Cerenia to be a very effective and safe anti-emetic.
 
  
 
 Here is a link to a good vet article on meds used to control vomiting.  The 
 info on Cerenia is about 1/2 way down under the heading 'A new antiemetic 
 drug for dogs'.
 
 http://veterinarycalendar.dvm360.com/avhc/content/printContentPopup.jsp?id=676860
 
  
 
 Hope this helps
 
 Sharyl
 
  
 
 
 
 From: Dawn Morrison dlmgreen1...@yahoo.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
 Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 4:50 PM
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Advice
 
 
 
 
 
 
 My 7yr old 

Re: [Felvtalk] Help for Goldie and Tiger

[Lee Evans]

Dot, where is your Chipin page located?  I haven't been paying attention lately.


 
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too!





 From: dot winkler venus7ora...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2012 12:26 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Help for Goldie and Tiger
 

Hi.  I was wondering if anyone had any ideas on how to raise money to help some 
of the cats in the Farmingdale colony that I have been taking care of for the 
past 2 years.  Two of them are in need of medical attention.  Goldie and Tiger. 
 Tiger has gotten much more affectionate and friendly with me the last 2 
months.  He lets me pick him up.  My goal is to adopt some of them out (some of 
the friendlier ones like him). I have been working on this goal for some time 
now.   But he has started to sneeze the last 2 months and I almost got him in 
the cage last week and this week I will surely catch him with the help of my 
sister.  I have gone through so much money this summer, I'm sure you all know 
the story, as I took in a stray from our neighborhood (now have 4 indoor cats). 
 Financially, I need some assistance with Tiger and Goldie.  I don't want to 
let them go the winter - Gldie obviously has something stuck in his mouth and 
probably needs anti b
 as well as a full workup.  I am hopeful that I can catch him also with a 
little persistance. Tiger shows much hope if vetted.  My sister-in-law has 
offered to  recover him.
 I have started a CHIPIN account.  I'm sure you all have seen it.  If anyone 
would like to donate and help out, it would be so much appreciated.  Tiger and 
Goldie would be relieved of their agony and it is heartbreaking to see them 
suffer with winter coming on.  I can't stand to watch it.  I want so much for 
the outcome of these cats to be a good one.  That is my goal.  If you find it 
in the goodness of your hearts to chip in even $1.00, it would be so wonderful 
as dollars add up.  Or if you have any other ideas of raising money.  I am in 
for surgery Nov 26th so time is of the essence as I have many dr appts and work 
is time-consuming.  Thanks to you all.  Dotty W.  Freehold, NJ


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[Felvtalk] Help with FeLV Testing please

[Victoria Viau]

Hello,

I would be very grateful for any and all advice regarding testing for my
new kitty.

My husband and I weren’t necessarily looking for a fourth kitty, but
recently, we happened to see a kitten from a rescue group.  He had such a
nice personality, and had just recovered from surgery due to a badly
shattered hip bone.  The rescue vet said that the injury in his estimation
was caused by a very hard kick to the kitten’s hip.  He’s had a hard start
to his life.  We adopted him and very much want to give him a good
permanent home.

Right now, this new kitty is segregated from my other 3 cats, as we were
waiting to find out his FeLV and FIV status.  I recently took this kitty to
my vet for the test, after waiting a month and a half from adopting him, to
try to account for any incubation period for the FeLV, as well as waiting
till he was old enough for the FIV test (he is now 6.5 mos old).

My vet recommended a lab ELISA test for the initial screening.  After much
reading, I found out that FeLV regressive infections are pretty common, and
ELISA and IFA do not detect regressive infections, whereas PCR can.
Problem with the commercial lab PCR tests for FeLV is that so far, they has
not been independently evaluated.  After discussing this with my vet, he
was fine with going with either test.

Very happily, the IDEXX real-time PCR test came back negative for both FeLV
and FIV.  Initially my vet said that it would probably be good to also do a
lab ELISA test, to see the results of that test as well, as he advised that
it is still considered to be the major test for screening.  I spoke to my
vet again today, and now he says that he doesn’t think the additional test
is necessary, but that no test is 100% accurate.

I am rather confused, and also rather paranoid to boot because I had a
really bad experience with FeLV more than a decade ago, when I didn’t know
much at all about virus testing.  Back then, I adopted a new kitten who
turned out to be FeLV +, but by the time she had gotten sick and we found
out about her status, she’d been exposed to my other cats, who then also
got the virus and all died shortly thereafter, within a year.  It was a
HORRIFIC experience that still brings me to tears to this day when I
remember what happened.  I really feel for those of you whose kitties are
suffering from this disease.

I would like to take all precautions I can to prevent this from happening
again.  My current 3 adult kitties (5,6, and 7 years old) are healthy and
are FeLV and FIV tested and negative.

So my question is, do you think it would be good for me to get a lab (not
the in-house) ELISA test in addition to the IDEXX real time PCR that was
already done for this new kitty?

Apologies for the long message, any suggestions/advice are greatly
appreciated.
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Re: [Felvtalk] HELP transport needed asap

[Georgetta Brickey]

Hi,
 
I just wanted to let you know that the FeLV+ momcat (Tangy) and her 2 kittens 
made it safely to Second Chance Meows in Reno.  I know, because after an urgent 
call from Michael, founder of Second Chance, my husband and I drove down and 
picked them up from the shelter in Rancho Cucamonga on 6-27.  
 
I was able to find safe transport by car to Lake Tahoe for them about 4 days 
later.  Michael from Second Chance was able to drive to meet the kind lady who 
offered space in her car for them from Fillmore, CA to Lake Tahoe and bring 
them home to his sanctuary in Reno.
 
I wanted to send a BIG warm Thank You to Amy at R.C. city shelter, Wendy who 
transported the kitties, her aunt who kindly emailed about 300 pilots and her 
family members about needy kitties needing transportation, Michael who opened 
his heart and home to 3 more felines in need, and last but certainly not least, 
to all of the other people who helped keep this sweet momcat and her 2 babies 
alive until they reached sanctuary.
 
Georgetta in Ventura, CA
 



Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 18:24:39 -0700
From: secondchanceme...@yahoo.com
Subject: HELP transport needed asap
To: felvpositivecats-ow...@yahoogroups.com; felvpositivec...@yahoogroups.com; 
felvtalk@felineleukemia.org; gebr...@hotmail.com



hey everyone,
 I have a mommy and 2 kittens that need transport from Rancho Cucamonga CA 
shelter to Reno, Nv asap.  Mommy and 1 of the kittens are doing good but 1 of 
the kittens has gotten  the shelter URI  and they need out now. I can 
travel part way to meet if needed and will help with gas costs if needed.  
please let me know  if you can help
 
Michael Johnson
Founder/Owner
Second Chance Meows
A FeLV Sanctuary  
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[Felvtalk] HELP transport needed asap

[Second Chance Meows]

hey everyone,
 I have a mommy and 2 kittens that need transport from Rancho Cucamonga CA 
shelter to Reno, Nv asap.  Mommy and 1 of the kittens are doing good but 1 of 
the kittens has gotten  the shelter URI  and they need out now. I can 
travel part way to meet if needed and will help with gas costs if needed.  
please let me know  if you can help

 

Michael Johnson
Founder/Owner
Second Chance Meows
A FeLV Sanctuary
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Re: [Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick

[Natalie]

Years ago, before I got involved in cat rescue, we had only 3 cats.  Two cat
brothers were dropped off at a parking lot where a friend taught night
school - we picked them up and gave them to our vet.  Both were sitting in
cages...I felt so bad for Andrew (made the mistake of naming him), and
although he was super friendly, I felt that no one would realize how
affectionate and outgoing he was sitting in a cage.  I mentioned it to my
husband, and said that maybe we should take him,he said, take both cats!
I said no, the groomer wants to adopt GrewLittle did he know that we
would be living with so many cats right now

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From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Frank  Sue Koren
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 7:42 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick

Tweezer was the name the rescue group that had him gave him.  I liked the
name and it fit him so we kept it.  I don't know if links from the cat forum
I am part of will work here, but I will try.  This tells the story of how I
came to have him and of his first few weeks at home:

http://www.catforum.com/forum/36-cat-chat/117922-cat-cage.html

http://www.catforum.com/forum/36-cat-chat/119042-tweezer-after-5-1-2-weeks.h
tml

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From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Mike Finch
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 7:35 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick

Sue,

I'm praying for you and Tweezer.  Pllleeeaaassee tell me about that name! :D

Mike
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[Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick

[Frank Sue Koren]

Tweezer was to the vet yesterday.  His RBC is 17 and he has a secondary
infection.  He is also having spasms which is the worst because he is
frightened and it makes it harder for him to eat and drink.  He is on
Prednesolone and Clavamox for now.  What can I do to help him?

I hope this message gets through to the list because my last one didn't.  

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Re: [Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick

[Katy Doyle]

I'm so sorry that Tweezer isn't doing well. I don't really know what to do
to encourage him to eat - maybe try his favorite food, I sometimes use
tuna or mackerel (supplemented with Nutri-Cal so the cat gets all their
viatamins). For cats, the smellier the food, the better.

I hope that helps!
---Katy

On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 7:19 AM, Frank  Sue Koren fs...@roadrunner.comwrote:

 Tweezer was to the vet yesterday.  His RBC is 17 and he has a secondary
 infection.  He is also having spasms which is the worst because he is
 frightened and it makes it harder for him to eat and drink.  He is on
 Prednesolone and Clavamox for now.  What can I do to help him?

 I hope this message gets through to the list because my last one didn't.

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Re: [Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick

[Natalie]

Try ANYTHING - it's better than nothing.  Sometimes, when they have an
infection, they can't smell the food (and that's very important to cats),
try taking some of the food, maybe diluted, and use a syringe or an
eyedropper to put some of it into their mouth on the side, just to get the
taste, they usually start eating!

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katy Doyle
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 12:51 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick

I'm so sorry that Tweezer isn't doing well. I don't really know what to do
to encourage him to eat - maybe try his favorite food, I sometimes use
tuna or mackerel (supplemented with Nutri-Cal so the cat gets all their
viatamins). For cats, the smellier the food, the better.

I hope that helps!
---Katy

On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 7:19 AM, Frank  Sue Koren
fs...@roadrunner.comwrote:

 Tweezer was to the vet yesterday.  His RBC is 17 and he has a secondary
 infection.  He is also having spasms which is the worst because he is
 frightened and it makes it harder for him to eat and drink.  He is on
 Prednesolone and Clavamox for now.  What can I do to help him?

 I hope this message gets through to the list because my last one didn't.

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Re: [Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick

[Susan Koren]

The problem is more with the spasms he is having then not eating.  He is 
interested in food but is having a hard time eating it because of the shaking 
and jerking. They don't know what is causing it. They were thinking maybe value 
would help but are afraid it might not be good because of his being weak and 
immune compromised.

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On Feb 3, 2011, at 2:07 PM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:

 Try ANYTHING - it's better than nothing.  Sometimes, when they have an
 infection, they can't smell the food (and that's very important to cats),
 try taking some of the food, maybe diluted, and use a syringe or an
 eyedropper to put some of it into their mouth on the side, just to get the
 taste, they usually start eating!
 
 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katy Doyle
 Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 12:51 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick
 
 I'm so sorry that Tweezer isn't doing well. I don't really know what to do
 to encourage him to eat - maybe try his favorite food, I sometimes use
 tuna or mackerel (supplemented with Nutri-Cal so the cat gets all their
 viatamins). For cats, the smellier the food, the better.
 
 I hope that helps!
 ---Katy
 
 On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 7:19 AM, Frank  Sue Koren
 fs...@roadrunner.comwrote:
 
 Tweezer was to the vet yesterday.  His RBC is 17 and he has a secondary
 infection.  He is also having spasms which is the worst because he is
 frightened and it makes it harder for him to eat and drink.  He is on
 Prednesolone and Clavamox for now.  What can I do to help him?
 
 I hope this message gets through to the list because my last one didn't.
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick

[Natalie]

Years ago, one of my FIV cats had seizures; we rushed her to an emergency
clinic, and they told me you have a very sick kitty here, which made me
livid, as if I were a total ignoramus.I later did some research and
found out that cats with FeLV and FIV can build up toxins which can cause
seizures.
Maybe it would be a good idea to feed the cat with a syringeshould be no
problem!  Wrap in a towel, hold the head from underneath  the jaw, and
gently insert the syringe on the side of the mouth, slowly releasing the
food (small amounts, allowing the cat to swallow). Would it help if you
placed food in front, and then helped steady the cat's head?

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Susan Koren
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 2:41 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick

The problem is more with the spasms he is having then not eating.  He is
interested in food but is having a hard time eating it because of the
shaking and jerking. They don't know what is causing it. They were thinking
maybe value would help but are afraid it might not be good because of his
being weak and immune compromised.

Sent from my iPad

On Feb 3, 2011, at 2:07 PM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:

 Try ANYTHING - it's better than nothing.  Sometimes, when they have an
 infection, they can't smell the food (and that's very important to cats),
 try taking some of the food, maybe diluted, and use a syringe or an
 eyedropper to put some of it into their mouth on the side, just to get the
 taste, they usually start eating!
 
 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katy Doyle
 Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 12:51 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick
 
 I'm so sorry that Tweezer isn't doing well. I don't really know what to do
 to encourage him to eat - maybe try his favorite food, I sometimes use
 tuna or mackerel (supplemented with Nutri-Cal so the cat gets all their
 viatamins). For cats, the smellier the food, the better.
 
 I hope that helps!
 ---Katy
 
 On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 7:19 AM, Frank  Sue Koren
 fs...@roadrunner.comwrote:
 
 Tweezer was to the vet yesterday.  His RBC is 17 and he has a secondary
 infection.  He is also having spasms which is the worst because he is
 frightened and it makes it harder for him to eat and drink.  He is on
 Prednesolone and Clavamox for now.  What can I do to help him?
 
 I hope this message gets through to the list because my last one didn't.
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick

[Susan Koren]

I think emergency clinics have more then their share of idiots
Maybe assist feeding would work for him. I will have to get a syringe.  Did you 
do anything else besides feeding her to help her get rid of toxins?

Sent from my iPad

On Feb 3, 2011, at 3:18 PM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:

 Years ago, one of my FIV cats had seizures; we rushed her to an emergency
 clinic, and they told me you have a very sick kitty here, which made me
 livid, as if I were a total ignoramus.I later did some research and
 found out that cats with FeLV and FIV can build up toxins which can cause
 seizures.
 Maybe it would be a good idea to feed the cat with a syringeshould be no
 problem!  Wrap in a towel, hold the head from underneath  the jaw, and
 gently insert the syringe on the side of the mouth, slowly releasing the
 food (small amounts, allowing the cat to swallow). Would it help if you
 placed food in front, and then helped steady the cat's head?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Susan Koren
 Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 2:41 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick
 
 The problem is more with the spasms he is having then not eating.  He is
 interested in food but is having a hard time eating it because of the
 shaking and jerking. They don't know what is causing it. They were thinking
 maybe value would help but are afraid it might not be good because of his
 being weak and immune compromised.
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On Feb 3, 2011, at 2:07 PM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:
 
 Try ANYTHING - it's better than nothing.  Sometimes, when they have an
 infection, they can't smell the food (and that's very important to cats),
 try taking some of the food, maybe diluted, and use a syringe or an
 eyedropper to put some of it into their mouth on the side, just to get the
 taste, they usually start eating!
 
 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katy Doyle
 Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 12:51 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick
 
 I'm so sorry that Tweezer isn't doing well. I don't really know what to do
 to encourage him to eat - maybe try his favorite food, I sometimes use
 tuna or mackerel (supplemented with Nutri-Cal so the cat gets all their
 viatamins). For cats, the smellier the food, the better.
 
 I hope that helps!
 ---Katy
 
 On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 7:19 AM, Frank  Sue Koren
 fs...@roadrunner.comwrote:
 
 Tweezer was to the vet yesterday.  His RBC is 17 and he has a secondary
 infection.  He is also having spasms which is the worst because he is
 frightened and it makes it harder for him to eat and drink.  He is on
 Prednesolone and Clavamox for now.  What can I do to help him?
 
 I hope this message gets through to the list because my last one didn't.
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick

[Natalie]

I was giving her sub-q fluids for a while, which I assume helped her because
she never had any seizures again. FIV is so much more manageable than FeLV!
BTW - I sent the info to the dumb vet at the clinic so she would know for
the next time someone brings in a cat that was FIV+, not to immediately make
the diagnosis of the cat having grand mal seizures, DUH!

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Susan Koren
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 3:34 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick

I think emergency clinics have more then their share of idiots
Maybe assist feeding would work for him. I will have to get a syringe.  Did
you do anything else besides feeding her to help her get rid of toxins?

Sent from my iPad

On Feb 3, 2011, at 3:18 PM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:

 Years ago, one of my FIV cats had seizures; we rushed her to an emergency
 clinic, and they told me you have a very sick kitty here, which made me
 livid, as if I were a total ignoramus.I later did some research and
 found out that cats with FeLV and FIV can build up toxins which can cause
 seizures.
 Maybe it would be a good idea to feed the cat with a syringeshould be
no
 problem!  Wrap in a towel, hold the head from underneath  the jaw, and
 gently insert the syringe on the side of the mouth, slowly releasing the
 food (small amounts, allowing the cat to swallow). Would it help if you
 placed food in front, and then helped steady the cat's head?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Susan Koren
 Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 2:41 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick
 
 The problem is more with the spasms he is having then not eating.  He is
 interested in food but is having a hard time eating it because of the
 shaking and jerking. They don't know what is causing it. They were
thinking
 maybe value would help but are afraid it might not be good because of his
 being weak and immune compromised.
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On Feb 3, 2011, at 2:07 PM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:
 
 Try ANYTHING - it's better than nothing.  Sometimes, when they have an
 infection, they can't smell the food (and that's very important to cats),
 try taking some of the food, maybe diluted, and use a syringe or an
 eyedropper to put some of it into their mouth on the side, just to get
the
 taste, they usually start eating!
 
 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katy Doyle
 Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 12:51 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick
 
 I'm so sorry that Tweezer isn't doing well. I don't really know what to
do
 to encourage him to eat - maybe try his favorite food, I sometimes use
 tuna or mackerel (supplemented with Nutri-Cal so the cat gets all their
 viatamins). For cats, the smellier the food, the better.
 
 I hope that helps!
 ---Katy
 
 On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 7:19 AM, Frank  Sue Koren
 fs...@roadrunner.comwrote:
 
 Tweezer was to the vet yesterday.  His RBC is 17 and he has a secondary
 infection.  He is also having spasms which is the worst because he is
 frightened and it makes it harder for him to eat and drink.  He is on
 Prednesolone and Clavamox for now.  What can I do to help him?
 
 I hope this message gets through to the list because my last one didn't.
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick

[Frank Sue Koren]

I have an appointment with my favorite vet tomorrow to see what can be done
for Tweezer.  If he can still be made comfortable by anything I can do, then
I will do everything I can for him.  If there is nothing that can be done
then it will be time to let him go with dignity.  I can trust Dr. Tom to
advise me correctly.  Meanwhile I am a basket case.  If Tweezer must crosst
the bridge then a bright ray of sunshine will be leaving this world.

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Natalie
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 3:50 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick

I was giving her sub-q fluids for a while, which I assume helped her because
she never had any seizures again. FIV is so much more manageable than FeLV!
BTW - I sent the info to the dumb vet at the clinic so she would know for
the next time someone brings in a cat that was FIV+, not to immediately make
the diagnosis of the cat having grand mal seizures, DUH!

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Susan Koren
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 3:34 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick

I think emergency clinics have more then their share of idiots
Maybe assist feeding would work for him. I will have to get a syringe.  Did
you do anything else besides feeding her to help her get rid of toxins?

Sent from my iPad

On Feb 3, 2011, at 3:18 PM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:

 Years ago, one of my FIV cats had seizures; we rushed her to an emergency
 clinic, and they told me you have a very sick kitty here, which made me
 livid, as if I were a total ignoramus.I later did some research and
 found out that cats with FeLV and FIV can build up toxins which can cause
 seizures.
 Maybe it would be a good idea to feed the cat with a syringeshould be
no
 problem!  Wrap in a towel, hold the head from underneath  the jaw, and
 gently insert the syringe on the side of the mouth, slowly releasing the
 food (small amounts, allowing the cat to swallow). Would it help if you
 placed food in front, and then helped steady the cat's head?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Susan Koren
 Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 2:41 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick
 
 The problem is more with the spasms he is having then not eating.  He is
 interested in food but is having a hard time eating it because of the
 shaking and jerking. They don't know what is causing it. They were
thinking
 maybe value would help but are afraid it might not be good because of his
 being weak and immune compromised.
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On Feb 3, 2011, at 2:07 PM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:
 
 Try ANYTHING - it's better than nothing.  Sometimes, when they have an
 infection, they can't smell the food (and that's very important to cats),
 try taking some of the food, maybe diluted, and use a syringe or an
 eyedropper to put some of it into their mouth on the side, just to get
the
 taste, they usually start eating!
 
 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katy Doyle
 Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 12:51 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick
 
 I'm so sorry that Tweezer isn't doing well. I don't really know what to
do
 to encourage him to eat - maybe try his favorite food, I sometimes use
 tuna or mackerel (supplemented with Nutri-Cal so the cat gets all their
 viatamins). For cats, the smellier the food, the better.
 
 I hope that helps!
 ---Katy
 
 On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 7:19 AM, Frank  Sue Koren
 fs...@roadrunner.comwrote:
 
 Tweezer was to the vet yesterday.  His RBC is 17 and he has a secondary
 infection.  He is also having spasms which is the worst because he is
 frightened and it makes it harder for him to eat and drink.  He is on
 Prednesolone and Clavamox for now.  What can I do to help him?
 
 I hope this message gets through to the list because my last one didn't.
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick

[MaiMaiPG]

That bright ray of sunshine will be shining on you and loving you.   
Tweezer knows all that you have done for him and trusts you to make  
the right decisions.  He will always be in your life and heart...just  
in a different form.  This does not take away the pain, the awful pain  
but it may change that pain.


Try to focus on the time you have together and enjoy each other.  Some  
of the most memorable minutes I had with Ebony were in the hours  
before he left this world.  Try to focus...through the heartache.

On Feb 3, 2011, at 5:29 PM, Frank  Sue Koren wrote:

I have an appointment with my favorite vet tomorrow to see what can  
be done
for Tweezer.  If he can still be made comfortable by anything I can  
do, then
I will do everything I can for him.  If there is nothing that can be  
done
then it will be time to let him go with dignity.  I can trust Dr.  
Tom to
advise me correctly.  Meanwhile I am a basket case.  If Tweezer must  
crosst

the bridge then a bright ray of sunshine will be leaving this world.

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Natalie
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 3:50 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick

I was giving her sub-q fluids for a while, which I assume helped her  
because
she never had any seizures again. FIV is so much more manageable  
than FeLV!
BTW - I sent the info to the dumb vet at the clinic so she would  
know for
the next time someone brings in a cat that was FIV+, not to  
immediately make

the diagnosis of the cat having grand mal seizures, DUH!

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Susan Koren
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 3:34 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick

I think emergency clinics have more then their share of idiots
Maybe assist feeding would work for him. I will have to get a  
syringe.  Did
you do anything else besides feeding her to help her get rid of  
toxins?


Sent from my iPad

On Feb 3, 2011, at 3:18 PM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:

Years ago, one of my FIV cats had seizures; we rushed her to an  
emergency
clinic, and they told me you have a very sick kitty here, which  
made me
livid, as if I were a total ignoramus.I later did some research  
and
found out that cats with FeLV and FIV can build up toxins which can  
cause

seizures.
Maybe it would be a good idea to feed the cat with a  
syringeshould be

no
problem!  Wrap in a towel, hold the head from underneath  the jaw,  
and
gently insert the syringe on the side of the mouth, slowly  
releasing the
food (small amounts, allowing the cat to swallow). Would it help if  
you

placed food in front, and then helped steady the cat's head?

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Susan Koren
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 2:41 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick

The problem is more with the spasms he is having then not eating.   
He is

interested in food but is having a hard time eating it because of the
shaking and jerking. They don't know what is causing it. They were

thinking
maybe value would help but are afraid it might not be good because  
of his

being weak and immune compromised.

Sent from my iPad

On Feb 3, 2011, at 2:07 PM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:

Try ANYTHING - it's better than nothing.  Sometimes, when they  
have an
infection, they can't smell the food (and that's very important to  
cats),

try taking some of the food, maybe diluted, and use a syringe or an
eyedropper to put some of it into their mouth on the side, just to  
get

the

taste, they usually start eating!

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katy Doyle
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 12:51 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick

I'm so sorry that Tweezer isn't doing well. I don't really know  
what to

do
to encourage him to eat - maybe try his favorite food, I sometimes  
use
tuna or mackerel (supplemented with Nutri-Cal so the cat gets all  
their

viatamins). For cats, the smellier the food, the better.

I hope that helps!
---Katy

On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 7:19 AM, Frank  Sue Koren
fs...@roadrunner.comwrote:

Tweezer was to the vet yesterday.  His RBC is 17 and he has a  
secondary
infection.  He is also having spasms which is the worst because  
he is
frightened and it makes it harder for him to eat and drink.  He  
is on

Prednesolone and Clavamox for now.  What can I do to help him?

I hope this message gets through to the list because my last one  
didn't.


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Re: [Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick

[Mike Finch]

Sue,

I'm praying for you and Tweezer.  Pllleeeaaassee tell me about that name! :D

Mike
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Re: [Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick

[Frank Sue Koren]

Tweezer was the name the rescue group that had him gave him.  I liked the
name and it fit him so we kept it.  I don't know if links from the cat forum
I am part of will work here, but I will try.  This tells the story of how I
came to have him and of his first few weeks at home:

http://www.catforum.com/forum/36-cat-chat/117922-cat-cage.html

http://www.catforum.com/forum/36-cat-chat/119042-tweezer-after-5-1-2-weeks.h
tml

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Mike Finch
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 7:35 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick

Sue,

I'm praying for you and Tweezer.  Pllleeeaaassee tell me about that name! :D

Mike
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Re: [Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick

[Natalie]

Don't let him go unless you know he is suffering - he may get better with
some fluids; does you vet give Vitamin injections?  Mine makes a combo of C,
B12 etc. and it has save many sick cats and put them onto the road to
feeling a lot better!

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Frank  Sue Koren
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 6:30 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick

I have an appointment with my favorite vet tomorrow to see what can be done
for Tweezer.  If he can still be made comfortable by anything I can do, then
I will do everything I can for him.  If there is nothing that can be done
then it will be time to let him go with dignity.  I can trust Dr. Tom to
advise me correctly.  Meanwhile I am a basket case.  If Tweezer must crosst
the bridge then a bright ray of sunshine will be leaving this world.

-Original Message-
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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Natalie
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 3:50 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick

I was giving her sub-q fluids for a while, which I assume helped her because
she never had any seizures again. FIV is so much more manageable than FeLV!
BTW - I sent the info to the dumb vet at the clinic so she would know for
the next time someone brings in a cat that was FIV+, not to immediately make
the diagnosis of the cat having grand mal seizures, DUH!

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Susan Koren
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 3:34 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick

I think emergency clinics have more then their share of idiots
Maybe assist feeding would work for him. I will have to get a syringe.  Did
you do anything else besides feeding her to help her get rid of toxins?

Sent from my iPad

On Feb 3, 2011, at 3:18 PM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:

 Years ago, one of my FIV cats had seizures; we rushed her to an emergency
 clinic, and they told me you have a very sick kitty here, which made me
 livid, as if I were a total ignoramus.I later did some research and
 found out that cats with FeLV and FIV can build up toxins which can cause
 seizures.
 Maybe it would be a good idea to feed the cat with a syringeshould be
no
 problem!  Wrap in a towel, hold the head from underneath  the jaw, and
 gently insert the syringe on the side of the mouth, slowly releasing the
 food (small amounts, allowing the cat to swallow). Would it help if you
 placed food in front, and then helped steady the cat's head?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Susan Koren
 Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 2:41 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick
 
 The problem is more with the spasms he is having then not eating.  He is
 interested in food but is having a hard time eating it because of the
 shaking and jerking. They don't know what is causing it. They were
thinking
 maybe value would help but are afraid it might not be good because of his
 being weak and immune compromised.
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On Feb 3, 2011, at 2:07 PM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:
 
 Try ANYTHING - it's better than nothing.  Sometimes, when they have an
 infection, they can't smell the food (and that's very important to cats),
 try taking some of the food, maybe diluted, and use a syringe or an
 eyedropper to put some of it into their mouth on the side, just to get
the
 taste, they usually start eating!
 
 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katy Doyle
 Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 12:51 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick
 
 I'm so sorry that Tweezer isn't doing well. I don't really know what to
do
 to encourage him to eat - maybe try his favorite food, I sometimes use
 tuna or mackerel (supplemented with Nutri-Cal so the cat gets all their
 viatamins). For cats, the smellier the food, the better.
 
 I hope that helps!
 ---Katy
 
 On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 7:19 AM, Frank  Sue Koren
 fs...@roadrunner.comwrote:
 
 Tweezer was to the vet yesterday.  His RBC is 17 and he has a secondary
 infection.  He is also having spasms which is the worst because he is
 frightened and it makes it harder for him to eat and drink.  He is on
 Prednesolone and Clavamox for now.  What can I do to help him?
 
 I hope this message gets through to the list because my last one didn't.
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick

[Bonnie Hogue]

Fingers crossed for a good outcome for you and Tweezer!  Hang in there!
~Bonnie
- Original Message - 
From: Frank  Sue Koren fs...@roadrunner.com

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 3:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick



I have an appointment with my favorite vet tomorrow to see what can be done
for Tweezer.  If he can still be made comfortable by anything I can do, 
then

I will do everything I can for him.  If there is nothing that can be done
then it will be time to let him go with dignity.  I can trust Dr. Tom to
advise me correctly.  Meanwhile I am a basket case.  If Tweezer must 
crosst

the bridge then a bright ray of sunshine will be leaving this world.

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Natalie
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 3:50 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick

I was giving her sub-q fluids for a while, which I assume helped her 
because
she never had any seizures again. FIV is so much more manageable than 
FeLV!

BTW - I sent the info to the dumb vet at the clinic so she would know for
the next time someone brings in a cat that was FIV+, not to immediately 
make

the diagnosis of the cat having grand mal seizures, DUH!

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Susan Koren
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 3:34 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick

I think emergency clinics have more then their share of idiots
Maybe assist feeding would work for him. I will have to get a syringe. 
Did

you do anything else besides feeding her to help her get rid of toxins?

Sent from my iPad

On Feb 3, 2011, at 3:18 PM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:


Years ago, one of my FIV cats had seizures; we rushed her to an emergency
clinic, and they told me you have a very sick kitty here, which made me
livid, as if I were a total ignoramus.I later did some research and
found out that cats with FeLV and FIV can build up toxins which can cause
seizures.
Maybe it would be a good idea to feed the cat with a syringeshould be

no

problem!  Wrap in a towel, hold the head from underneath  the jaw, and
gently insert the syringe on the side of the mouth, slowly releasing the
food (small amounts, allowing the cat to swallow). Would it help if you
placed food in front, and then helped steady the cat's head?

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Susan Koren
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 2:41 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick

The problem is more with the spasms he is having then not eating.  He is
interested in food but is having a hard time eating it because of the
shaking and jerking. They don't know what is causing it. They were

thinking

maybe value would help but are afraid it might not be good because of his
being weak and immune compromised.

Sent from my iPad

On Feb 3, 2011, at 2:07 PM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:


Try ANYTHING - it's better than nothing.  Sometimes, when they have an
infection, they can't smell the food (and that's very important to 
cats),

try taking some of the food, maybe diluted, and use a syringe or an
eyedropper to put some of it into their mouth on the side, just to get

the

taste, they usually start eating!

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katy Doyle
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 12:51 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick

I'm so sorry that Tweezer isn't doing well. I don't really know what to

do

to encourage him to eat - maybe try his favorite food, I sometimes use
tuna or mackerel (supplemented with Nutri-Cal so the cat gets all their
viatamins). For cats, the smellier the food, the better.

I hope that helps!
---Katy

On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 7:19 AM, Frank  Sue Koren
fs...@roadrunner.comwrote:


Tweezer was to the vet yesterday.  His RBC is 17 and he has a secondary
infection.  He is also having spasms which is the worst because he is
frightened and it makes it harder for him to eat and drink.  He is on
Prednesolone and Clavamox for now.  What can I do to help him?

I hope this message gets through to the list because my last one 
didn't.


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[Felvtalk] Help.. need advice on fleas

[Claudia Veiga]

Hi,
I saw your post and felv.  My cat Cheshire recently passed, she developed 
leukemia, she had a lump on her neck.  She was anemic and wasn't gettign enough 
Oxygen in her system.   I got so many wonderful replies of condolences on here. 
 
One of the things I wondered was whether the revolution flea product I had 
applied on her 6 weeks before she passed somehow weakened her immune system or 
made her sick.  I rarely applied flea product on her, since she only went out 
on 
the deck.  She had had revolution treatments a couple of years ago when she had 
fleas but was fine then except for her asthma,  My other non-felv cat goes out. 
 
Anyway, it was jsut one of the things I've wrestled with. 


  
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Re: [Felvtalk] Help.. need advice on fleas

[Beth]

I really would doubt it. I put Advantage on my FeLV cats for years  never had 
any problem.

Beth
Dont Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org   

--- On Tue, 10/19/10, Claudia Veiga elisasta...@yahoo.com wrote:

From: Claudia Veiga elisasta...@yahoo.com
Subject: [Felvtalk] Help.. need advice on fleas
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Tuesday, October 19, 2010, 4:48 PM

Hi,
I saw your post and felv.  My cat Cheshire recently passed, she developed 
leukemia, she had a lump on her neck.  She was anemic and wasn't gettign enough 
Oxygen in her system.   I got so many wonderful replies of condolences on 
here.  
One of the things I wondered was whether the revolution flea product I had 
applied on her 6 weeks before she passed somehow weakened her immune system or 
made her sick.  I rarely applied flea product on her, since she only went out 
on 
the deck.  She had had revolution treatments a couple of years ago when she had 
fleas but was fine then except for her asthma,  My other non-felv cat goes 
out.  
Anyway, it was jsut one of the things I've wrestled with.     


      
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Re: [Felvtalk] Help.. need advice on fleas

[Emeraldkittee]

Claudia,
 
I'm so sorry about Chesire's passing - I too wonder about Revolution. I always 
hear it's one of the lesser toxic products, but with these guys, I suppose we 
question everything.
 
Shannon

--- On Tue, 10/19/10, Claudia Veiga elisasta...@yahoo.com wrote:


From: Claudia Veiga elisasta...@yahoo.com
Subject: [Felvtalk] Help.. need advice on fleas
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Tuesday, October 19, 2010, 3:48 PM


Hi,
I saw your post and felv.  My cat Cheshire recently passed, she developed 
leukemia, she had a lump on her neck.  She was anemic and wasn't gettign enough 
Oxygen in her system.   I got so many wonderful replies of condolences on 
here.  
One of the things I wondered was whether the revolution flea product I had 
applied on her 6 weeks before she passed somehow weakened her immune system or 
made her sick.  I rarely applied flea product on her, since she only went out 
on 
the deck.  She had had revolution treatments a couple of years ago when she had 
fleas but was fine then except for her asthma,  My other non-felv cat goes 
out.  
Anyway, it was jsut one of the things I've wrestled with.     


      
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Re: [Felvtalk] Help- need advice on fleas

[Natalie]

If you see something under the chin, it could be chin acne, often mistaken
for flea dirt.  Comes mostly from using porous feeding dishes...try using
only ceramic, stainless steel...There are many non-poisonous alternatives
against fleasthe cedar one is good.  We use nematodes to spray around
the house and with so many cats, have no flea problems.

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
create_me_...@yahoo.com
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2010 10:44 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Help- need advice on fleas

I use advantage. FeLV cats are very prone to Hemobartonella, which will
cause severe anemia  comes from fleas. ALL my cats get Advantage every
month  I have never had a problem. Fleas also cause tape worms which will
deprive the cat of nutrients.
Beth
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From: Szacherdroid stacy_zac...@yahoo.com
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Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 21:34:49 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
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Subject: [Felvtalk] Help- need advice on fleas

Hi all...I suspect Spanky may have fleas. I found some flea dirt looking
dust and a lump under his chin and also have been seeing little red bugs
around but no fleas when I comb him. Some were flying so I thought, they
couldn't be fleas.  I also have a dog and it has been unseasonably warm here
in WI this week.   

Please let me know how you treat an felv kitty with a weak immune system for
fleas.  I am terrified at the prospect of having to spray my home and treat
him.  He used to get one of the topicals years ago but vet didn't think that
would be good for him now.  We have a vet appt tomorrow for ltci injection
and bloodwork.   I am taking some of the sample bugs I collected for
identification.  

Thanks for your help, Stacy and Spanky
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[Felvtalk] Help- need advice on fleas

[Natalie]

www.cedarcide.com . The animal can be sprayed directly with no harm. All
kinds of natural products.
www.drgoodpet.com - Look under flea control - we use their product to spray
around the house so that no fleas can be brought inside and the cats can use
the outdoor enclosures safely. We use Frontline only on cats that are
introduced to the fold...and of course, we check if they have fleas.
The fewer chemicals you use on cats with a compromised immune systems, the
better!

-Original Message-
From: Natalie [mailto:at...@optonline.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2010 9:43 AM
To: 'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org'
Subject: RE: [Felvtalk] Help- need advice on fleas

If you see something under the chin, it could be chin acne, often mistaken
for flea dirt.  Comes mostly from using porous feeding dishes...try using
only ceramic, stainless steel...There are many non-poisonous alternatives
against fleasthe cedar one is good.  We use nematodes to spray around
the house and with so many cats, have no flea problems.

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
create_me_...@yahoo.com
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2010 10:44 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Help- need advice on fleas

I use advantage. FeLV cats are very prone to Hemobartonella, which will
cause severe anemia  comes from fleas. ALL my cats get Advantage every
month  I have never had a problem. Fleas also cause tape worms which will
deprive the cat of nutrients.
Beth
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

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Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 21:34:49 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
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Subject: [Felvtalk] Help- need advice on fleas

Hi all...I suspect Spanky may have fleas. I found some flea dirt looking
dust and a lump under his chin and also have been seeing little red bugs
around but no fleas when I comb him. Some were flying so I thought, they
couldn't be fleas.  I also have a dog and it has been unseasonably warm here
in WI this week.   

Please let me know how you treat an felv kitty with a weak immune system for
fleas.  I am terrified at the prospect of having to spray my home and treat
him.  He used to get one of the topicals years ago but vet didn't think that
would be good for him now.  We have a vet appt tomorrow for ltci injection
and bloodwork.   I am taking some of the sample bugs I collected for
identification.  

Thanks for your help, Stacy and Spanky
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[Felvtalk] Help- need advice on fleas

[Szacherdroid]

Hi all...I suspect Spanky may have fleas. I found some flea dirt looking dust 
and a lump under his chin and also have been seeing little red bugs around but 
no fleas when I comb him. Some were flying so I thought, they couldn't be 
fleas.  I also have a dog and it has been unseasonably warm here in WI this 
week.   

Please let me know how you treat an felv kitty with a weak immune system for 
fleas.  I am terrified at the prospect of having to spray my home and treat 
him.  He used to get one of the topicals years ago but vet didn't think that 
would be good for him now.  We have a vet appt tomorrow for ltci injection and 
bloodwork.   I am taking some of the sample bugs I collected for 
identification.  

Thanks for your help, Stacy and Spanky
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Re: [Felvtalk] Help- need advice on fleas

[create_me_new]

I use advantage. FeLV cats are very prone to Hemobartonella, which will cause 
severe anemia  comes from fleas. ALL my cats get Advantage every month  I 
have never had a problem. Fleas also cause tape worms which will deprive the 
cat of nutrients.
Beth
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

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Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 21:34:49 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Help- need advice on fleas

Hi all...I suspect Spanky may have fleas. I found some flea dirt looking dust 
and a lump under his chin and also have been seeing little red bugs around but 
no fleas when I comb him. Some were flying so I thought, they couldn't be 
fleas.  I also have a dog and it has been unseasonably warm here in WI this 
week.   

Please let me know how you treat an felv kitty with a weak immune system for 
fleas.  I am terrified at the prospect of having to spray my home and treat 
him.  He used to get one of the topicals years ago but vet didn't think that 
would be good for him now.  We have a vet appt tomorrow for ltci injection and 
bloodwork.   I am taking some of the sample bugs I collected for 
identification.  

Thanks for your help, Stacy and Spanky
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[Felvtalk] Help! Placement for FeLV positive cats needed NOW! NY State

[rache20212]

-Original Message-
From: rache20...@aol.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Mon, Jul 5, 2010 9:54 pm
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] vets


I have a momma cat who has FeLV and we just discovered 2 out of her 3 
kittens do as well. I am desperate to find them homes or a good place 
to live out their lives as I cannot have any more cats! I am moving out 
of my current living situation so am now desperate for help. I do not 
have a place for them to go, literally! So please help if you can. They 
are sweet and friendly and wonderful. I literally have 11 cats in my 
home right now and need to move soon. I rescued these guys and their 
mom and aunt and am nin WAY over my head! need help fast. please. thank 
you!
ps-sorry for the repeat e-mail. I realized the subject needed to be 
changed!

 
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From: Gloria B. Lane gbl...@aristotle.net 
To: felvt...@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Sat, Jul 3, 2010 1:41 am 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] vets 
 
Michelle Lerner has been on this list for a while, and has a friend who 
does cat rescue in Manhattan lernermiche...@aol.com  

  
Gloria  
  
  
On Jul 2, 2010, at 2:25 PM, CATHERINE DIDONNA wrote:  
  
tks. a friend told me about a vet in the East Village who does  

regular meds,and holistic med,is very nice and reasonable.  

  
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From: Gloria B. Lane gbl...@aristotle.net  
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] vets  
To: felvt...@felineleukemia.org  
Date: Friday, July 2, 2010, 2:55 PM  
  
  
Well we've got a New Yorker on the list or did, now I forget who!  
  
Gloria  
  
  
  
  
On Jul 1, 2010, at 4:35 PM, CATHERINE DIDONNA wrote:  
  

  
Can anyone recommend a vet that cares about FELV cats in New York  

City? Thankyou  

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From: Sharyl cline...@yahoo.com  
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] rear leg weakness- Revolution used? and  

update  

To: felvt...@felineleukemia.org  
Date: Wednesday, June 30, 2010, 1:21 PM  
  
  
Amy, based on what you have written I wouldn't worry about the high 
 Ca right now. What was his phos level? There is an issue when  
both Ca and Phos are high but again that wouldn't affect his hind  
legs. It could be the anemia.  

  
In the end we do what we can with the resources we have. He's  

lucky to have you loving him.  

Sharyl  
  
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From: Amy awilkin...@yahoo.com  
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] rear leg weakness- Revolution used? and  

update  

To: felvt...@felineleukemia.org  
Date: Wednesday, June 30, 2010, 12:12 PM  
No idea why he has hind leg  
weakness. I'll researched all the causes and none seem  
to apply other than the leukemia. He has had routine  
blood work every 6 months of his life and we have monitored  
him very closely as we do all our positive cats. No  
major problems other than some weight loss and IBD over the  
past couple years.  
  
I don't think I've ever taken one of my positive cats to  
the vet that some level hasn't been off. Historically  
when I've drawn more blood or done further testing, it  
always ends up being nothing. I spend lots of money  
and put the cats through lots of testing and then 6 months  
later, the value is normal again. I've just grown to  
step back and not flip out every time I see a low or high  
value for that reason. I have to say I still feel sick  
every time I see the HCT drop in one of them though.  
So that's my hesitation with taking 3 ml of blood from a  
non-regenerative anemic cat. He just had a full  
CBC/Chem which is not a small amount of blood and I'm afraid  
to draw so much blood again when I think his time with me is  
limited to begin with.  
  
The only thing I can come up with as a cause of the hind  
leg weakness is long term steroid use. I read that  
it's more common with injectable steroids so not sure if it  
even applies to pred. He's been on pred for almost a  
year. However, I have no doubt that it is the one  
thing that has kept him alive. Neither me or the  
specialist I'm seeing are even considering taking him off  
that as I have no doubt he will crash. We tried  
weaning him off it a year ago after treating him for  
hemobart and he started going downhill quickly. That  
said, his bone marrow is shot. He's been  
non-regenerative for over a year and making red blood cells  
from his spleen or elsewhere. We knew he couldn't do  
this forever so I'm not shocked at where we are, just  
sad. Since he's been anemic for a year and holding  
steady, I guess the weakness could be a result of the anemia  
as well. Yet he doesn't seem weak otherwise  
really. He sleeps a lot and yes it's obvious he  
doesn't keep  
up with the other cats but not so weak that it takes too  
much energy to walk in my opinion.  
  
His liver and kidney values are all normal. Appetite is  
normal. No signs of lymphoma after 2 ultrasounds,  
probably has IBD and is on EVO which 

Re: [Felvtalk] Help - I can't get LTCI in Georgia!

[Gloria B. Lane]

If you can find a vet to do it, I'd try the vitamin C therapy in a New  
York Minute.  I've never used Acemannan, but have read a lot about it  
and it sounds good too.  When I checked into it a few years ago, it  
was hard for me to get.  Course you'd have to find a competent vet  
willing to do that too.


Good luck!

Gloria



On Dec 16, 2009, at 8:10 PM, LauraM wrote:

My vet spoke with several people at whatever state department deals  
with drugs and so on, and apparently nobody can get LTCI, even the  
clinics who'd been previously using it. It is so, so frustrating  
(especially since I just refinanced and so - for once - I actually  
have some money!). Since I'm so close to Alabama, going out of state  
might be my best bet. In the meantime, the vitamin C therapy sounds  
interesting and so does acemannan. I'm still hopeful!



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Re: [Felvtalk] Help - I can't get LTCI in Georgia!

[Tower Laboratories Corporation]

I agree with Gloria.  LTCI, Acemannan, etc. are more for
immune and symptom support in the absence of trying anything
more curative, while the sodium ascorbate (vitamin C) used
intravenously has the power to permanently destroy viruses
and is not just administered for immune support, though it
is also a powerful immune enhancer as well.  Again, for info
on how vitamin C accomplishes destruction of a virus see
Klenner's Clinical Guide to the Use of Vitamin C,
http://www.seanet.com/~alexs/ascorbate/198x/smith-lh-clinica
l_guide_1988.htm.  

It is important to work with a vet in the implementation of
this therapy to make sure that the amounts of vitamin C and
fluid used and the rate with which they are administered are
appropriate for the size of the cat because while this
therapy is considered extremely safe, nothing is ever inert
and one should always err on the side of caution.  My vet
has indicated a willingness to consult with other vets about
the protocol should it be necessary.  I can also share the
protocol but would never advocate attempting the drips
outside of the supervision of a vet.  
  

Sally Snyder Jewell
Tower Laboratories Corporation
Manufacturers of Pauling Therapy Formulas for Coronary Heart
Disease Since 1996
http://www.HeartTech.com
E-mail:  sa...@towerlaboratories.com
Toll Free:  1-877-TOWER-LABS (1-877.869.3752) 
Voice:  502.368.2720; 502.368.2721
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 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-
 boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Gloria B. Lane
 Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 11:29 AM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Help - I can't get LTCI in
Georgia!
 
 If you can find a vet to do it, I'd try the vitamin C
therapy in a New
 York Minute.  I've never used Acemannan, but have read a
lot
 about it
 and it sounds good too.  When I checked into it a few
years ago,
 it
 was hard for me to get.  Course you'd have to find a
competent
 vet
 willing to do that too.
 
 Good luck!
 
 Gloria
 
 
 
 On Dec 16, 2009, at 8:10 PM, LauraM wrote:
 
  My vet spoke with several people at whatever state
department
 deals
  with drugs and so on, and apparently nobody can get
LTCI,
 even the
  clinics who'd been previously using it. It is so, so
frustrating
  (especially since I just refinanced and so - for once -
I actually
  have some money!). Since I'm so close to Alabama, going
out
 of state
  might be my best bet. In the meantime, the vitamin C
therapy
 sounds
  interesting and so does acemannan. I'm still hopeful!
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Help - I can't get LTCI in Georgia!

[Tower Laboratories Corporation]

I agree with Gloria.  LTCI, Acemannan, etc. are more for
immune and symptom support in the absence of trying anything
more curative, while the sodium ascorbate (vitamin C) used
intravenously has the power to permanently destroy viruses
and is not just administered for immune support, though it
is also a powerful immune enhancer as well.  Again, for info
on how vitamin C accomplishes destruction of a virus see
Klenner's Clinical Guide to the Use of Vitamin C,
http://www.seanet.com/~alexs/ascorbate/198x/smith-lh-clinica
l_guide_1988.htm.  

It is important to work with a vet in the implementation of
this therapy to make sure that the amounts of vitamin C and
fluid used and the rate with which they are administered are
appropriate for the size of the cat because while this
therapy is considered extremely safe, nothing is ever inert
and one should always err on the side of caution.  My vet
has indicated a willingness to consult with other vets about
the protocol should it be necessary.  I can also share the
protocol but would never advocate attempting the drips
outside of the supervision of a vet.  
  

Sally Snyder Jewell
Tower Laboratories Corporation
Manufacturers of Pauling Therapy Formulas for Coronary Heart
Disease Since 1996
http://www.HeartTech.com
E-mail:  sa...@towerlaboratories.com
Toll Free:  1-877-TOWER-LABS (1-877.869.3752) 
Voice:  502.368.2720; 502.368.2721
Fax:  502.368.0019
 
Pauling Therapy Information Web site:
http://www.HeartTech.com 
Pauling Therapy Order Link:
http://www.PaulingTherapyStore.com
 
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 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-
 boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Gloria B. Lane
 Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 11:29 AM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Help - I can't get LTCI in
Georgia!
 
 If you can find a vet to do it, I'd try the vitamin C
therapy in a New
 York Minute.  I've never used Acemannan, but have read a
lot
 about it
 and it sounds good too.  When I checked into it a few
years ago,
 it
 was hard for me to get.  Course you'd have to find a
competent
 vet
 willing to do that too.
 
 Good luck!
 
 Gloria
 
 
 
 On Dec 16, 2009, at 8:10 PM, LauraM wrote:
 
  My vet spoke with several people at whatever state
department
 deals
  with drugs and so on, and apparently nobody can get
LTCI,
 even the
  clinics who'd been previously using it. It is so, so
frustrating
  (especially since I just refinanced and so - for once -
I actually
  have some money!). Since I'm so close to Alabama, going
out
 of state
  might be my best bet. In the meantime, the vitamin C
therapy
 sounds
  interesting and so does acemannan. I'm still hopeful!
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Help - I can't get LTCI in Georgia!

[Gary]

Acemannan is now easy enough to get, but must come through a vet.  They 
just had a $64 price increase and I paid $228 for the package of  four 
10 mg bottles and that doesn't last long if you have a large cat.  
Sometimes they have specials on it from the distributors, got my first 
package on special for $125 and had a bit of sticker shock at the new 
price.  Ordered the stuff for the Vitamin C IV therapy and will be 
trying it on a positive with a large lymphoma.  The tumor is in his 
chest and is quite large, so don't know how well this will go, but not 
much in the way of alternatives.


Gary

Gloria B. Lane wrote:
If you can find a vet to do it, I'd try the vitamin C therapy in a New 
York Minute.  I've never used Acemannan, but have read a lot about it 
and it sounds good too.  When I checked into it a few years ago, it 
was hard for me to get.  Course you'd have to find a competent vet 
willing to do that too.


Good luck!

Gloria





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Re: [Felvtalk] Help - I can't get LTCI in Georgia!

[jbero tds.net]

Laura,

I am sorry to hear about your situation.  To be honest, I would
probably contact a vet out of state, pick up the injections and do it
myself.  They are simply subcutaneous injections that can be easily
given.  If you are near a state border, I would drive and personally
pick it up myself.  Imulan can give you the name of vets in a
particular area that have or have used to drug.  If you are having
difficulty with this, let me know where you are and I can contact
them. Then contact the vet and ask if you could simply pick up the
medication.  I did this.  It took a little talking and open
communication between vets, but in the end wasn't all that difficult.
You can get a three or ten pack, bring it home (kept in the fridge, in
the dark) and do the injections as needed.  (weekly and first, then
biweekly then monthly) You don't have to go to the vet every time.
Then simply bring him to your vet to check a CBC (completely blood
count) and intermittently a BMP (basic metabolic panel) and follow his
response.

Other options include acemannan (an injection into the abdominal
cavity - more difficult injection) or ambotrose (similar to acemannan
but oral - can be ordered from Mannatech corp) or interferon (you
haven't had much luck I guess), or you could try Vitamin C (as has
been the hot topic recently).  Personally, I have an FIV cat that I am
planning on trying this on.  I want to see if it is possible to
reverse his FIV status to negative with it.  I will let you know.

Good luck and may God bless you.

Jenny

On 12/10/09, LauraM hingebacktorto...@yahoo.com wrote:
 As some of you may have read in my post from last week, my vet and I had
 planned to start Bridget on LTCI. Unfortunately, when my vet tried to order
 it, there was a problem. For some reason, the GA state vet isn't allowing
 the drug into the state at this time, for anybody - some legal issue.
 So.what are my options? I was excited  hopeful about the possibilities
 of this drug  now Bridget can't have it.
 What other therapies can you folks recommend? I've used interferon with two
 cats with no success. Bridget is currently asymptomatic, but I would like to
 try something, anything, to buy her as much time as possible. I'd appreciate
 any suggestions. Thanks.
 Laura
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Re: [Felvtalk] Help - I can't get LTCI in Georgia!

[Sara Kasteleyn]

Sorry to tag on to this most recent message, but don't have time at the
moment to get to a direct reply to Laura.

Was just on the LTCI Now portion of Immulan's website, and they list
doctors/vet clinics that are using the therapy.  One of them is the Greater
Atlanta Veterinary Medical Group (in Georgia, yes?), and Dr. Jory W. Olsen
is listed as the specific vet using the therapy.  It certainly might be
worth a call to this facility to start a conversation between Dr. Olsen and
your local vet in GA.

Of course, once can't believe everything read on the web, but it's a good
indication that someone in Georgia is able to get the drug.  I also read
that LTCI is becoming so popular that it is now on back-order.  If we're
thinking we will be needing doses fairly soon, it would be good to get the
orders in well ahead of time.  

Sara

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of jbero tds.net
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 11:42 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Help - I can't get LTCI in Georgia!

Laura,

I am sorry to hear about your situation.  To be honest, I would
probably contact a vet out of state, pick up the injections and do it
myself.  They are simply subcutaneous injections that can be easily
given.  If you are near a state border, I would drive and personally
pick it up myself.  Imulan can give you the name of vets in a
particular area that have or have used to drug.  If you are having
difficulty with this, let me know where you are and I can contact
them. Then contact the vet and ask if you could simply pick up the
medication.  I did this.  It took a little talking and open
communication between vets, but in the end wasn't all that difficult.
You can get a three or ten pack, bring it home (kept in the fridge, in
the dark) and do the injections as needed.  (weekly and first, then
biweekly then monthly) You don't have to go to the vet every time.
Then simply bring him to your vet to check a CBC (completely blood
count) and intermittently a BMP (basic metabolic panel) and follow his
response.

Other options include acemannan (an injection into the abdominal
cavity - more difficult injection) or ambotrose (similar to acemannan
but oral - can be ordered from Mannatech corp) or interferon (you
haven't had much luck I guess), or you could try Vitamin C (as has
been the hot topic recently).  Personally, I have an FIV cat that I am
planning on trying this on.  I want to see if it is possible to
reverse his FIV status to negative with it.  I will let you know.

Good luck and may God bless you.

Jenny

On 12/10/09, LauraM hingebacktorto...@yahoo.com wrote:
 As some of you may have read in my post from last week, my vet and I had
 planned to start Bridget on LTCI. Unfortunately, when my vet tried to
order
 it, there was a problem. For some reason, the GA state vet isn't allowing
 the drug into the state at this time, for anybody - some legal issue.
 So.what are my options? I was excited  hopeful about the
possibilities
 of this drug  now Bridget can't have it.
 What other therapies can you folks recommend? I've used interferon with
two
 cats with no success. Bridget is currently asymptomatic, but I would like
to
 try something, anything, to buy her as much time as possible. I'd
appreciate
 any suggestions. Thanks.
 Laura
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Re: [Felvtalk] Help - I can't get LTCI in Georgia!

[MaryChristine]

folks, NEVER underestimate the absurdity of governmental agencies: for
awhile, it was illegal to import FELIWAY spray/diffuser oil into the state
of MI--mail-order companies couldn't ship it in, stores had to pull it from
their shelves and couldn't sell it, etc. seems that it hadn't undergone the
proper clinical tests that the state suddenly decided were required, tho
it'd been sold in the state for years



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Re: [Felvtalk] Help - I can't get LTCI in Georgia!

[LauraM]

My vet spoke with several people at whatever state department deals with drugs 
and so on, and apparently nobody can get LTCI, even the clinics who'd been 
previously using it. It is so, so frustrating (especially since I just 
refinanced and so - for once - I actually have some money!). Since I'm so close 
to Alabama, going out of state might be my best bet. In the meantime, the 
vitamin C therapy sounds interesting and so does acemannan. I'm still hopeful!

 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Help - I can't get LTCI in Georgia!

[dlgegg]

have you brrn able to find out why it is not allowed in the state?  is it just 
a political thing or a medical reason?  i will check with my vet and see if he 
can come up with an answer.  dorlis
 LauraM hingebacktorto...@yahoo.com wrote: 
 As some of you may have read in my post from last week, my vet and I had 
 planned to start Bridget on LTCI. Unfortunately, when my vet tried to order 
 it, there was a problem. For some reason, the GA state vet isn't allowing the 
 drug into the state at this time, for anybody - some legal issue. So.what 
 are my options? I was excited  hopeful about the possibilities of this drug 
  now Bridget can't have it.
 What other therapies can you folks recommend? I've used interferon with two 
 cats with no success. Bridget is currently asymptomatic, but I would like to 
 try something, anything, to buy her as much time as possible. I'd appreciate 
 any suggestions. Thanks.
 Laura
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Re: [Felvtalk] Help - I can't get LTCI in Georgia!

[dlgegg]

am forwarding this to my vet.  he is open minded and could use this for other 
patients.  i have a couple who get respiratory infections off and on and want 
to try this for them.  it certainly is easier on them than antibiotics.  dorlis
 Tower Laboratories Corporation sa...@towerlaboratories.com wrote: 
 Happy to help, Gloria.  If you need any information at all
 about the protocol, please keep my numbers (below) and call
 me any time.  You may have guessed by now that I am very
 passionate about this and beyond anxious to start seeing pet
 owners trying this safe and effective protocol for their own
 sick cats.  I hope to have a Web site with more information
 online soon.  
 
 In the meantime, I can't tell you enough how important it is
 to read Dr. Fred Klenner's Clinical Guide to the Use of
 Vitamin C (full text available online at
 http://www.seanet.com/~alexs/ascorbate/198x/smith-lh-clinica
 l_guide_1988.htm), and Dr. Wendell Belfield's paper
 Megascorbic Prophylaxis and Megascorbic Therapy:
 A New Orthomolecular Modality in Veterinary Medicine (full
 text available online at
 http://www.seanet.com/~alexs/ascorbate/197x/belfield-w-j_int
 _assn_prev_med-1978-v2-n3-p10.htm).
 
 I have seen IV vitamin C work a miracle for three of my cats
 with lymphoma, upper respiratory and recently FIP, and
 though far from an expert on the subject, I am certainly an
 expert at trying.  :-)  
 
 
 
 Sally Snyder Jewell
 Tower Laboratories Corporation
 Manufacturers of Pauling Therapy Formulas for Coronary Heart
 Disease Since 1996
 http://www.HeartTech.com
 E-mail:  sa...@towerlaboratories.com
 Toll Free:  1-877-TOWER-LABS (1-877.869.3752) 
 Voice:  502.368.2720; 502.368.2721
 Fax:  502.368.0019
  
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 http://www.HeartTech.com 
 Pauling Therapy Order Link:
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 generality of the contents herein, this message is not meant
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  From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-
  boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Gloria B. Lane
  Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 1:34 PM
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Help - I can't get LTCI in
 Georgia!
  
  Thanks again, Sally.  I'm a great believer in vitamin C,
 have taken
  megadoses of it myself with good results.  I haven't used
 it
  methodically in cats like you have, although I have used
 Belfield's
  Vitamin C.  When I get another cat with early FIP or FELV
 like
  you're
  talking about, I'll see about finding a vet who'll do an
 IV drip  -
  wish I'd done it with some of my cats who've now passed
 on.
  
  Gloria
  in Arkansas
  
  
  
  On Dec 11, 2009, at 10:44 AM, S. Jewell wrote:
  
   Gary,
  
   I used the Mega C Plus on a feral FeLV cat for six
 months
   but ultimately he did not seroconvert because it was
 already
   in his bone marrow.  Had I the opportunity to start
   megadoses of oral vitamin C at the beginning stages of
 his
   virus he would likely still be alive, because like
 taking C
   for the common cold, timing is key in stopping the
   progression of viruses.
  
   Ascorbic acid is critical for prevention and optimal
 health
   in cats and dogs, but it is nearly impossible to get
 enough
   of it into a cat orally to eradicate an aggressive,
   life-threatening virus once well-established.  Cats and
 dogs
   make very little vitamin C in the liver compared to most
   animals, hence the reason they succumb to these
 diseases.  I
   talked with Wendell Belfield, DVM about his use of this
   protocol and he confirmed that if the
   infection/disease/virus is too advanced a more
 aggressive
   approach is necessary through sub-Q or IM injections or
   intravenous infusions.
  
   Though an excellent formula, his oral Mega-C Plus
 contains
   iron, which can limit the amount than can be used
   therapeutically.  Otherwise, there is no toxic limit for
   pure ascorbic acid and the more you can get into the cat
 up
   to bowel tolerance, the more beneficial.  When the body
 is
   under stress (animal or human) and fighting illness,
 more
   vitamin C is tolerated and necessary to eradicate the
   disease/virus.  The myths about kidney stones, peeing
   expensive urine, etc., are just that - myths, propagated
 by
   those who would stand to lose huge money were ascorbic
 acid
   widely accepted and used for eradicating

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[Hotmail Junk]

It sure is!! We don't live to far from American River College.

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On Dec 11, 2009, at 5:34 PM, Alice Flowers  
aliceflow...@sbcglobal.net wrote:


OK-I didn't realize that we are in the same area!! How crazy is  
that? I live in Rio Linda (Sacramento County) with my kitties,  
horses and antique Aussies (all over 10 yrs old). Citrus Heights is  
within 15-20 minutes away. Small World!

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Re: [Felvtalk] Help - I can't get LTCI in Georgia!

[Gloria B. Lane]

Very nice summary, Gary, thanks -

Gloria



On Dec 11, 2009, at 1:34 AM, Gary wrote:


How odd.  Has your vet spoken to Imulan about this problem?

There isn't anything I know for sure that helps a lot other than a  
good diet and low stress.  There are many things that people use  
with varying success.  I just started using Acemannan and had  
success turning to FeLV positive anemic kittens into what appears to  
be pretty healthy positive cats.  You already know about  
Interferon.  Best Friends uses Immuno Regulin (now available as  
EqStim) .5 ml sub-q once a month on their positives.  I have used  
Moducare and there is Transfer Factor and several others.  There is  
oral vitamin C using Mega C.


Does anything work all the time on every cat?  I doubt it and we may  
be throwing our money away most of the time, who knows?  Dr.  
Belfield claims he cured every positive cat that came through his  
practice of 30 years with his Mega C.  My cats don't seem to like it  
so I haven't figured out how to dose them with enough to experiment  
with that.


Gary

LauraM wrote:
As some of you may have read in my post from last week, my vet and  
I had planned to start Bridget on LTCI. Unfortunately, when my vet  
tried to order it, there was a problem. For some reason, the GA  
state vet isn't allowing the drug into the state at this time, for  
anybody - some legal issue. So.what are my options? I was  
excited  hopeful about the possibilities of this drug  now  
Bridget can't have it.
What other therapies can you folks recommend? I've used interferon  
with two cats with no success. Bridget is currently asymptomatic,  
but I would like to try something, anything, to buy her as much  
time as possible. I'd appreciate any suggestions. Thanks.

Laura





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Re: [Felvtalk] Help - I can't get LTCI in Georgia!

[S. Jewell]

Gary, 

I used the Mega C Plus on a feral FeLV cat for six months
but ultimately he did not seroconvert because it was already
in his bone marrow.  Had I the opportunity to start
megadoses of oral vitamin C at the beginning stages of his
virus he would likely still be alive, because like taking C
for the common cold, timing is key in stopping the
progression of viruses.

Ascorbic acid is critical for prevention and optimal health
in cats and dogs, but it is nearly impossible to get enough
of it into a cat orally to eradicate an aggressive,
life-threatening virus once well-established.  Cats and dogs
make very little vitamin C in the liver compared to most
animals, hence the reason they succumb to these diseases.  I
talked with Wendell Belfield, DVM about his use of this
protocol and he confirmed that if the
infection/disease/virus is too advanced a more aggressive
approach is necessary through sub-Q or IM injections or
intravenous infusions.  

Though an excellent formula, his oral Mega-C Plus contains
iron, which can limit the amount than can be used
therapeutically.  Otherwise, there is no toxic limit for
pure ascorbic acid and the more you can get into the cat up
to bowel tolerance, the more beneficial.  When the body is
under stress (animal or human) and fighting illness, more
vitamin C is tolerated and necessary to eradicate the
disease/virus.  The myths about kidney stones, peeing
expensive urine, etc., are just that - myths, propagated by
those who would stand to lose huge money were ascorbic acid
widely accepted and used for eradicating disease.  Vitamin C
has been known to fight 30 major diseases for over 50 years,
and as Wendell Belfield DVM knew well and practiced from the
1960s on, it also cures cat and dog viruses, infection and
disease.  

Giving high doses of sodium ascorbate intravenously to an
FeLV cat in the early stages of the disease should
permanently eradicate the FeLV virus as it did with FIP in
my kitten, and in fact, ANY virus.  I am preparing to do
just such a trial on the next newly diagnosed FeLV kitten
that comes into my care.  The key is catching it early and
administering enough to permanently destroy the virus.  

With my two FIP kittens, Chuckie was the first to become
symptomatic.  We administered IV sodium ascorbate (vitamin
C) at 1 gram per pound of body weight (5,000 mg daily) for
five days.  We stopped the drips when he appeared better,
though he soon took a nose dive and by the time my vet
opened again he was too far gone from a neurological
standpoint.  The virus had not been totally eradicated in
those five days at that low dose, and when the C was stopped
the virus replicated and killed him. 

When his sister Angelica began to manifest with the same
chronic high fevers, weight loss, lack of appetite, and
transient neurologic symptoms, a passage in Klenner's
Clinical Guide to the Use of Vitamin C grabbed my attention,
to wit:  . . . failure to benefit from Vitamin C use is
usually due to inadequate amounts being used for too short a
period of time.  Newly armed with this information, we
doubled Angelica's IV C to 2g per pound of body weight so
that she was getting 10g daily.  We continued the drips
daily and on day 7 her 105 fever came down.  We continued
for 4 more days to make sure the virus was killed and we
didn't have a repeat situation as with poor Chuckie.  Her
fevers remained down through day 11 and then we tapered her
off of the C and gave it orally to avoid rebound scurvy.  It
has been 3 weeks and she is eating well, gaining weight, and
totally asymptomatic.  Needless to say, she now gets C in
her food every day.

The difference between the two treatment scenarios is that
Chuckie received too many immune-destroying antibiotics and
steroids before his official FIP diagnosis returned and by
the time we started the IV C drips he was terribly
compromised, though he probably would have survived had I
only realized that we were administering too little vitamin
C for too short a time.  When Angelica became sick I went
straight to the IV vitamin C as my first line of defense and
apparently that, and the proper dosage amount and
administration length, were the keys to curing her.  

I hope this helps some of you.  I posted much of this
information before but it seemed to be dismissed a priori
with few appearing to consider it legitimate or worthy of
greater investigation.  This is sad, because while everyone
continues to talk of what to do for these poor FeLV, FIV,
FIP and other sick cats, with a little effort this treatment
is available, safe, effective, and inexpensive compared with
the typical outlay for these diseases.  Is it not worth
trying for these cats before accepting that there is no
viable cure?

Personally, I would much prefer to attempt this protocol to
eradicate a virus than to simply treat a cat's immune system
just to give it a few extra months before the virus kills it
anyway.  It's really a no-brainer.  You will do your vet a
favor by asking 

Re: [Felvtalk] Help - I can't get LTCI in Georgia!

[S. Jewell]

Gary, 

I used the Mega C Plus on a feral FeLV cat for six months
but ultimately he did not seroconvert because it was already
in his bone marrow.  Had I the opportunity to start
megadoses of oral vitamin C at the beginning stages of his
virus he would likely still be alive, because like taking C
for the common cold, timing is key in stopping the
progression of viruses.

Ascorbic acid is critical for prevention and optimal health
in cats and dogs, but it is nearly impossible to get enough
of it into a cat orally to eradicate an aggressive,
life-threatening virus once well-established.  Cats and dogs
make very little vitamin C in the liver compared to most
animals, hence the reason they succumb to these diseases.  I
talked with Wendell Belfield, DVM about his use of this
protocol and he confirmed that if the
infection/disease/virus is too advanced a more aggressive
approach is necessary through sub-Q or IM injections or
intravenous infusions.  

Though an excellent formula, his oral Mega-C Plus contains
iron, which can limit the amount than can be used
therapeutically.  Otherwise, there is no toxic limit for
pure ascorbic acid and the more you can get into the cat up
to bowel tolerance, the more beneficial.  When the body is
under stress (animal or human) and fighting illness, more
vitamin C is tolerated and necessary to eradicate the
disease/virus.  The myths about kidney stones, peeing
expensive urine, etc., are just that - myths, propagated by
those who would stand to lose huge money were ascorbic acid
widely accepted and used for eradicating disease.  Vitamin C
has been known to fight 30 major diseases for over 50 years,
and as Wendell Belfield DVM knew well and practiced from the
1960s on, it also cures cat and dog viruses, infection and
disease.  

Giving high doses of sodium ascorbate intravenously to an
FeLV cat in the early stages of the disease should
permanently eradicate the FeLV virus as it did with FIP in
my kitten, and in fact, ANY virus.  I am preparing to do
just such a trial on the next newly diagnosed FeLV kitten
that comes into my care.  The key is catching it early and
administering enough to permanently destroy the virus.  

With my two FIP kittens, Chuckie was the first to become
symptomatic.  We administered IV sodium ascorbate (vitamin
C) at 1 gram per pound of body weight (5,000 mg daily) for
five days.  We stopped the drips when he appeared better,
though he soon took a nose dive and by the time my vet
opened again he was too far gone from a neurological
standpoint.  The virus had not been totally eradicated in
those five days at that low dose, and when the C was stopped
the virus replicated and killed him. 

When his sister Angelica began to manifest with the same
chronic high fevers, weight loss, lack of appetite, and
transient neurologic symptoms, a passage in Klenner's
Clinical Guide to the Use of Vitamin C grabbed my attention,
to wit:  . . . failure to benefit from Vitamin C use is
usually due to inadequate amounts being used for too short a
period of time.  Newly armed with this information, we
doubled Angelica's IV C to 2g per pound of body weight so
that she was getting 10g daily.  We continued the drips
daily and on day 7 her 105 fever came down.  We continued
for 4 more days to make sure the virus was killed and we
didn't have a repeat situation as with poor Chuckie.  Her
fevers remained down through day 11 and then we tapered her
off of the C and gave it orally to avoid rebound scurvy.  It
has been 3 weeks and she is eating well, gaining weight, and
totally asymptomatic.  Needless to say, she now gets C in
her food every day.

The difference between the two treatment scenarios is that
Chuckie received too many immune-destroying antibiotics and
steroids before his official FIP diagnosis returned and by
the time we started the IV C drips he was terribly
compromised, though he probably would have survived had I
only realized that we were administering too little vitamin
C for too short a time.  When Angelica became sick I went
straight to the IV vitamin C as my first line of defense and
apparently that, and the proper dosage amount and
administration length, were the keys to curing her.  

I hope this helps some of you.  I posted much of this
information before but it seemed to be dismissed a priori
with few appearing to consider it legitimate or worthy of
greater investigation.  This is sad, because while everyone
continues to talk of what to do for these poor FeLV, FIV,
FIP and other sick cats, with a little effort this treatment
is available, safe, effective, and inexpensive compared with
the typical outlay for these diseases.  Is it not worth
trying for these cats before accepting that there is no
viable cure?

Personally, I would much prefer to attempt this protocol to
eradicate a virus than to simply treat a cat's immune system
just to give it a few extra months before the virus kills it
anyway.  It's really a no-brainer.  You will do your vet a
favor by asking 

Re: [Felvtalk] Help - I can't get LTCI in Georgia!

[Alice Flowers]

I am shocked that your vet cannot order it. It's not even a drug per se. 
Perhaps your vet can contact another vet that can order it? My vet is the 
Sacramento Cat Hospital and if you google it, they have a website with all 
their contact info. As I type this, Rosie has Murphy in a headlock and is 
trying to bite his eyehe has these huge persian-like eyeballs and fluffy 
hair-she is a sleek tabby from a feral colony and loves to terrorize him these 
days even though she's half his size. I believe they'd both be dead if we 
hadn't begun the Imulan before they began crashing like Rosie's 4 brothers did. 
(The 4 brothers didn't see their 1st birthday.) These two have so much 
energy-galloping up and down the hall-one minute she's chasing him and then 
when they reverse directions-he's chasing her! I absolutely love it-not a 
sneeze or a sniffle since Sept, when they were constantly sick before the 
treatments. Rosie is 16 months old, Murphy just a few months
 more. I am only giving the subq injection every 6 weeks now. (It was once a 
week for 4 weeks in the beginning, then 2 weeks, 4 weeks etc). If I didn't have 
the Imulan, I have been reading alot of great things about the IV vitamin C 
therapy-I just read an article that said it cured a bad case of H1N1 in a 
human-but I didn't try to verify it-there is alot of information out there on 
the IV vitamin C-I do believe it is worth checking into. 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Help - I can't get LTCI in Georgia!

[Gloria B. Lane]

Thanks again, Sally.  I'm a great believer in vitamin C, have taken  
megadoses of it myself with good results.  I haven't used it  
methodically in cats like you have, although I have used Belfield's  
Vitamin C.  When I get another cat with early FIP or FELV like you're  
talking about, I'll see about finding a vet who'll do an IV drip  -  
wish I'd done it with some of my cats who've now passed on.


Gloria
in Arkansas



On Dec 11, 2009, at 10:44 AM, S. Jewell wrote:


Gary,

I used the Mega C Plus on a feral FeLV cat for six months
but ultimately he did not seroconvert because it was already
in his bone marrow.  Had I the opportunity to start
megadoses of oral vitamin C at the beginning stages of his
virus he would likely still be alive, because like taking C
for the common cold, timing is key in stopping the
progression of viruses.

Ascorbic acid is critical for prevention and optimal health
in cats and dogs, but it is nearly impossible to get enough
of it into a cat orally to eradicate an aggressive,
life-threatening virus once well-established.  Cats and dogs
make very little vitamin C in the liver compared to most
animals, hence the reason they succumb to these diseases.  I
talked with Wendell Belfield, DVM about his use of this
protocol and he confirmed that if the
infection/disease/virus is too advanced a more aggressive
approach is necessary through sub-Q or IM injections or
intravenous infusions.

Though an excellent formula, his oral Mega-C Plus contains
iron, which can limit the amount than can be used
therapeutically.  Otherwise, there is no toxic limit for
pure ascorbic acid and the more you can get into the cat up
to bowel tolerance, the more beneficial.  When the body is
under stress (animal or human) and fighting illness, more
vitamin C is tolerated and necessary to eradicate the
disease/virus.  The myths about kidney stones, peeing
expensive urine, etc., are just that - myths, propagated by
those who would stand to lose huge money were ascorbic acid
widely accepted and used for eradicating disease.  Vitamin C
has been known to fight 30 major diseases for over 50 years,
and as Wendell Belfield DVM knew well and practiced from the
1960s on, it also cures cat and dog viruses, infection and
disease.

Giving high doses of sodium ascorbate intravenously to an
FeLV cat in the early stages of the disease should
permanently eradicate the FeLV virus as it did with FIP in
my kitten, and in fact, ANY virus.  I am preparing to do
just such a trial on the next newly diagnosed FeLV kitten
that comes into my care.  The key is catching it early and
administering enough to permanently destroy the virus.

With my two FIP kittens, Chuckie was the first to become
symptomatic.  We administered IV sodium ascorbate (vitamin
C) at 1 gram per pound of body weight (5,000 mg daily) for
five days.  We stopped the drips when he appeared better,
though he soon took a nose dive and by the time my vet
opened again he was too far gone from a neurological
standpoint.  The virus had not been totally eradicated in
those five days at that low dose, and when the C was stopped
the virus replicated and killed him.

When his sister Angelica began to manifest with the same
chronic high fevers, weight loss, lack of appetite, and
transient neurologic symptoms, a passage in Klenner's
Clinical Guide to the Use of Vitamin C grabbed my attention,
to wit:  . . . failure to benefit from Vitamin C use is
usually due to inadequate amounts being used for too short a
period of time.  Newly armed with this information, we
doubled Angelica's IV C to 2g per pound of body weight so
that she was getting 10g daily.  We continued the drips
daily and on day 7 her 105 fever came down.  We continued
for 4 more days to make sure the virus was killed and we
didn't have a repeat situation as with poor Chuckie.  Her
fevers remained down through day 11 and then we tapered her
off of the C and gave it orally to avoid rebound scurvy.  It
has been 3 weeks and she is eating well, gaining weight, and
totally asymptomatic.  Needless to say, she now gets C in
her food every day.

The difference between the two treatment scenarios is that
Chuckie received too many immune-destroying antibiotics and
steroids before his official FIP diagnosis returned and by
the time we started the IV C drips he was terribly
compromised, though he probably would have survived had I
only realized that we were administering too little vitamin
C for too short a time.  When Angelica became sick I went
straight to the IV vitamin C as my first line of defense and
apparently that, and the proper dosage amount and
administration length, were the keys to curing her.

I hope this helps some of you.  I posted much of this
information before but it seemed to be dismissed a priori
with few appearing to consider it legitimate or worthy of
greater investigation.  This is sad, because while everyone
continues to talk of what to do for these poor FeLV, FIV,
FIP and other sick cats, with a little 

Re: [Felvtalk] Help - I can't get LTCI in Georgia!

[Tower Laboratories Corporation]

Happy to help, Gloria.  If you need any information at all
about the protocol, please keep my numbers (below) and call
me any time.  You may have guessed by now that I am very
passionate about this and beyond anxious to start seeing pet
owners trying this safe and effective protocol for their own
sick cats.  I hope to have a Web site with more information
online soon.  

In the meantime, I can't tell you enough how important it is
to read Dr. Fred Klenner's Clinical Guide to the Use of
Vitamin C (full text available online at
http://www.seanet.com/~alexs/ascorbate/198x/smith-lh-clinica
l_guide_1988.htm), and Dr. Wendell Belfield's paper
Megascorbic Prophylaxis and Megascorbic Therapy:
A New Orthomolecular Modality in Veterinary Medicine (full
text available online at
http://www.seanet.com/~alexs/ascorbate/197x/belfield-w-j_int
_assn_prev_med-1978-v2-n3-p10.htm).

I have seen IV vitamin C work a miracle for three of my cats
with lymphoma, upper respiratory and recently FIP, and
though far from an expert on the subject, I am certainly an
expert at trying.  :-)  



Sally Snyder Jewell
Tower Laboratories Corporation
Manufacturers of Pauling Therapy Formulas for Coronary Heart
Disease Since 1996
http://www.HeartTech.com
E-mail:  sa...@towerlaboratories.com
Toll Free:  1-877-TOWER-LABS (1-877.869.3752) 
Voice:  502.368.2720; 502.368.2721
Fax:  502.368.0019
 
Pauling Therapy Information Web site:
http://www.HeartTech.com 
Pauling Therapy Order Link:
http://www.PaulingTherapyStore.com
 
The products manufactured by Tower Laboratories Corporation,
Inc. are not intended to diagnose, treat, cure or prevent
disease in the United States. Without prejudice to the
generality of the contents herein, this message is not meant
nor intended to diagnose, treat, or otherwise mitigate any
health related condition.  This message does not attach any
legal liability onto the originator thereof.  This
communication may also contain information which is
confidential, and therefore privileged.  It is for the
exclusive use of the intended recipient(s).  If you have
received this message by error, please delete the email and
destroy any copies of it.

 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-
 boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Gloria B. Lane
 Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 1:34 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Help - I can't get LTCI in
Georgia!
 
 Thanks again, Sally.  I'm a great believer in vitamin C,
have taken
 megadoses of it myself with good results.  I haven't used
it
 methodically in cats like you have, although I have used
Belfield's
 Vitamin C.  When I get another cat with early FIP or FELV
like
 you're
 talking about, I'll see about finding a vet who'll do an
IV drip  -
 wish I'd done it with some of my cats who've now passed
on.
 
 Gloria
 in Arkansas
 
 
 
 On Dec 11, 2009, at 10:44 AM, S. Jewell wrote:
 
  Gary,
 
  I used the Mega C Plus on a feral FeLV cat for six
months
  but ultimately he did not seroconvert because it was
already
  in his bone marrow.  Had I the opportunity to start
  megadoses of oral vitamin C at the beginning stages of
his
  virus he would likely still be alive, because like
taking C
  for the common cold, timing is key in stopping the
  progression of viruses.
 
  Ascorbic acid is critical for prevention and optimal
health
  in cats and dogs, but it is nearly impossible to get
enough
  of it into a cat orally to eradicate an aggressive,
  life-threatening virus once well-established.  Cats and
dogs
  make very little vitamin C in the liver compared to most
  animals, hence the reason they succumb to these
diseases.  I
  talked with Wendell Belfield, DVM about his use of this
  protocol and he confirmed that if the
  infection/disease/virus is too advanced a more
aggressive
  approach is necessary through sub-Q or IM injections or
  intravenous infusions.
 
  Though an excellent formula, his oral Mega-C Plus
contains
  iron, which can limit the amount than can be used
  therapeutically.  Otherwise, there is no toxic limit for
  pure ascorbic acid and the more you can get into the cat
up
  to bowel tolerance, the more beneficial.  When the body
is
  under stress (animal or human) and fighting illness,
more
  vitamin C is tolerated and necessary to eradicate the
  disease/virus.  The myths about kidney stones, peeing
  expensive urine, etc., are just that - myths, propagated
by
  those who would stand to lose huge money were ascorbic
acid
  widely accepted and used for eradicating disease.
Vitamin C
  has been known to fight 30 major diseases for over 50
years,
  and as Wendell Belfield DVM knew well and practiced from
the
  1960s on, it also cures cat and dog viruses, infection
and
  disease.
 
  Giving high doses of sodium ascorbate intravenously to
an
  FeLV cat in the early stages of the disease should
  permanently eradicate the FeLV virus as it did with FIP
in
  my kitten, and in fact, ANY virus.  I am

Re: [Felvtalk] Help - I can't get LTCI in Georgia!

[Tower Laboratories Corporation]

Happy to help, Gloria.  If you need any information at all
about the protocol, please keep my numbers (below) and call
me any time.  You may have guessed by now that I am very
passionate about this and beyond anxious to start seeing pet
owners trying this safe and effective protocol for their own
sick cats.  I hope to have a Web site with more information
online soon.  

In the meantime, I can't tell you enough how important it is
to read Dr. Fred Klenner's Clinical Guide to the Use of
Vitamin C (full text available online at
http://www.seanet.com/~alexs/ascorbate/198x/smith-lh-clinica
l_guide_1988.htm), and Dr. Wendell Belfield's paper
Megascorbic Prophylaxis and Megascorbic Therapy:
A New Orthomolecular Modality in Veterinary Medicine (full
text available online at
http://www.seanet.com/~alexs/ascorbate/197x/belfield-w-j_int
_assn_prev_med-1978-v2-n3-p10.htm).

I have seen IV vitamin C work a miracle for three of my cats
with lymphoma, upper respiratory and recently FIP, and
though far from an expert on the subject, I am certainly an
expert at trying.  :-)  



Sally Snyder Jewell
Tower Laboratories Corporation
Manufacturers of Pauling Therapy Formulas for Coronary Heart
Disease Since 1996
http://www.HeartTech.com
E-mail:  sa...@towerlaboratories.com
Toll Free:  1-877-TOWER-LABS (1-877.869.3752) 
Voice:  502.368.2720; 502.368.2721
Fax:  502.368.0019
 
Pauling Therapy Information Web site:
http://www.HeartTech.com 
Pauling Therapy Order Link:
http://www.PaulingTherapyStore.com
 
The products manufactured by Tower Laboratories Corporation,
Inc. are not intended to diagnose, treat, cure or prevent
disease in the United States. Without prejudice to the
generality of the contents herein, this message is not meant
nor intended to diagnose, treat, or otherwise mitigate any
health related condition.  This message does not attach any
legal liability onto the originator thereof.  This
communication may also contain information which is
confidential, and therefore privileged.  It is for the
exclusive use of the intended recipient(s).  If you have
received this message by error, please delete the email and
destroy any copies of it.

 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-
 boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Gloria B. Lane
 Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 1:34 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Help - I can't get LTCI in
Georgia!
 
 Thanks again, Sally.  I'm a great believer in vitamin C,
have taken
 megadoses of it myself with good results.  I haven't used
it
 methodically in cats like you have, although I have used
Belfield's
 Vitamin C.  When I get another cat with early FIP or FELV
like
 you're
 talking about, I'll see about finding a vet who'll do an
IV drip  -
 wish I'd done it with some of my cats who've now passed
on.
 
 Gloria
 in Arkansas
 
 
 
 On Dec 11, 2009, at 10:44 AM, S. Jewell wrote:
 
  Gary,
 
  I used the Mega C Plus on a feral FeLV cat for six
months
  but ultimately he did not seroconvert because it was
already
  in his bone marrow.  Had I the opportunity to start
  megadoses of oral vitamin C at the beginning stages of
his
  virus he would likely still be alive, because like
taking C
  for the common cold, timing is key in stopping the
  progression of viruses.
 
  Ascorbic acid is critical for prevention and optimal
health
  in cats and dogs, but it is nearly impossible to get
enough
  of it into a cat orally to eradicate an aggressive,
  life-threatening virus once well-established.  Cats and
dogs
  make very little vitamin C in the liver compared to most
  animals, hence the reason they succumb to these
diseases.  I
  talked with Wendell Belfield, DVM about his use of this
  protocol and he confirmed that if the
  infection/disease/virus is too advanced a more
aggressive
  approach is necessary through sub-Q or IM injections or
  intravenous infusions.
 
  Though an excellent formula, his oral Mega-C Plus
contains
  iron, which can limit the amount than can be used
  therapeutically.  Otherwise, there is no toxic limit for
  pure ascorbic acid and the more you can get into the cat
up
  to bowel tolerance, the more beneficial.  When the body
is
  under stress (animal or human) and fighting illness,
more
  vitamin C is tolerated and necessary to eradicate the
  disease/virus.  The myths about kidney stones, peeing
  expensive urine, etc., are just that - myths, propagated
by
  those who would stand to lose huge money were ascorbic
acid
  widely accepted and used for eradicating disease.
Vitamin C
  has been known to fight 30 major diseases for over 50
years,
  and as Wendell Belfield DVM knew well and practiced from
the
  1960s on, it also cures cat and dog viruses, infection
and
  disease.
 
  Giving high doses of sodium ascorbate intravenously to
an
  FeLV cat in the early stages of the disease should
  permanently eradicate the FeLV virus as it did with FIP
in
  my kitten, and in fact, ANY virus.  I am

Re: [Felvtalk] Help - I can't get LTCI in Georgia!

[LauraM]

I know, that's why I'm so shocked myself. I haven't spoken with my vet; he left 
me a voice mail yesterday while I was at work and I didn't have time to call 
him back, since we were swamped with folks desperate to surrender their pets 
before Christmas (I need presents for my kids, so I can't afford to feed my 
dog!). All he said was that it was related to some legal issue, and no one in 
the state is currently able to get it. Frustrating. The vitamin C thing is 
interesting; I'll have to run that by him.
I'm not far from the GA-AL line...I wonder if I could bring her to Alabama if 
it's available there. I'm just desperate to do SOMETHING while she's still 
healthy. Her brother is gone and I just can't lose her.

--- On Fri, 12/11/09, Alice Flowers aliceflow...@sbcglobal.net wrote:


From: Alice Flowers aliceflow...@sbcglobal.net
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Help - I can't get LTCI in Georgia!
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Friday, December 11, 2009, 1:28 PM


I am shocked that your vet cannot order it. It's not even a drug per se. 
Perhaps your vet can contact another vet that can order it? My vet is the 
Sacramento Cat Hospital and if you google it, they have a website with all 
their contact info. As I type this, Rosie has Murphy in a headlock and is 
trying to bite his eyehe has these huge persian-like eyeballs and fluffy 
hair-she is a sleek tabby from a feral colony and loves to terrorize him these 
days even though she's half his size. I believe they'd both be dead if we 
hadn't begun the Imulan before they began crashing like Rosie's 4 brothers did. 
(The 4 brothers didn't see their 1st birthday.) These two have so much 
energy-galloping up and down the hall-one minute she's chasing him and then 
when they reverse directions-he's chasing her! I absolutely love it-not a 
sneeze or a sniffle since Sept, when they were constantly sick before the 
treatments. Rosie is 16 months old, Murphy just a few months
more. I am only giving the subq injection every 6 weeks now. (It was once a 
week for 4 weeks in the beginning, then 2 weeks, 4 weeks etc). If I didn't have 
the Imulan, I have been reading alot of great things about the IV vitamin C 
therapy-I just read an article that said it cured a bad case of H1N1 in a 
human-but I didn't try to verify it-there is alot of information out there on 
the IV vitamin C-I do believe it is worth checking into. 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Help - I can't get LTCI in Georgia!

[Hotmail Junk]

Mine is Akaal Pet Hospital in Citrus Heights. They ordered it for my  
cat all the time!


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On Dec 11, 2009, at 10:28 AM, Alice Flowers  
aliceflow...@sbcglobal.net wrote:


I am shocked that your vet cannot order it. It's not even a drug  
per se. Perhaps your vet can contact another vet that can order it?  
My vet is the Sacramento Cat Hospital and if you google it, they  
have a website with all their contact info. As I type this, Rosie  
has Murphy in a headlock and is trying to bite his eyehe has  
these huge persian-like eyeballs and fluffy hair-she is a sleek  
tabby from a feral colony and loves to terrorize him these days even  
though she's half his size. I believe they'd both be dead if we  
hadn't begun the Imulan before they began crashing like Rosie's 4  
brothers did. (The 4 brothers didn't see their 1st birthday.) These  
two have so much energy-galloping up and down the hall-one minute  
she's chasing him and then when they reverse directions-he's chasing  
her! I absolutely love it-not a sneeze or a sniffle since Sept, when  
they were constantly sick before the treatments. Rosie is 16 months  
old, Murphy just a few months
more. I am only giving the subq injection every 6 weeks now. (It was  
once a week for 4 weeks in the beginning, then 2 weeks, 4 weeks  
etc). If I didn't have the Imulan, I have been reading alot of great  
things about the IV vitamin C therapy-I just read an article that  
said it cured a bad case of H1N1 in a human-but I didn't try to  
verify it-there is alot of information out there on the IV vitamin C- 
I do believe it is worth checking into.

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[Alice Flowers]

OK-I didn't realize that we are in the same area!! How crazy is that? I live in 
Rio Linda (Sacramento County) with my kitties, horses and antique Aussies (all 
over 10 yrs old). Citrus Heights is within 15-20 minutes away. Small World!
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[Felvtalk] Help - I can't get LTCI in Georgia!

[LauraM]

As some of you may have read in my post from last week, my vet and I had 
planned to start Bridget on LTCI. Unfortunately, when my vet tried to order it, 
there was a problem. For some reason, the GA state vet isn't allowing the drug 
into the state at this time, for anybody - some legal issue. So.what are my 
options? I was excited  hopeful about the possibilities of this drug  now 
Bridget can't have it.
What other therapies can you folks recommend? I've used interferon with two 
cats with no success. Bridget is currently asymptomatic, but I would like to 
try something, anything, to buy her as much time as possible. I'd appreciate 
any suggestions. Thanks.
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Re: [Felvtalk] Help - I can't get LTCI in Georgia!

[Jane Lyons]

I'm getting it from a friend (a former list member in NM who is  
getting it from her vet and sending it to me). Can you ask someone  
out of state to
order it for you and send it to you directly. I cannot imagine that  
you would be penalized for excepting a package from out of state? It  
really

sounds like gestapo tactics. not allowing it in the state.

Good luck getting and using it!
Jane
On Dec 10, 2009, at 9:01 PM, LauraM wrote:

As some of you may have read in my post from last week, my vet and  
I had planned to start Bridget on LTCI. Unfortunately, when my vet  
tried to order it, there was a problem. For some reason, the GA  
state vet isn't allowing the drug into the state at this time, for  
anybody - some legal issue. So.what are my options? I was  
excited  hopeful about the possibilities of this drug  now  
Bridget can't have it.
What other therapies can you folks recommend? I've used interferon  
with two cats with no success. Bridget is currently asymptomatic,  
but I would like to try something, anything, to buy her as much  
time as possible. I'd appreciate any suggestions. Thanks.

Laura
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Re: [Felvtalk] Help - I can't get LTCI in Georgia!

[Gary]

How odd.  Has your vet spoken to Imulan about this problem?

There isn't anything I know for sure that helps a lot other than a good 
diet and low stress.  There are many things that people use with varying 
success.  I just started using Acemannan and had success turning to FeLV 
positive anemic kittens into what appears to be pretty healthy positive 
cats.  You already know about Interferon.  Best Friends uses Immuno 
Regulin (now available as EqStim) .5 ml sub-q once a month on their 
positives.  I have used Moducare and there is Transfer Factor and 
several others.  There is oral vitamin C using Mega C.


Does anything work all the time on every cat?  I doubt it and we may be 
throwing our money away most of the time, who knows?  Dr. Belfield 
claims he cured every positive cat that came through his practice of 30 
years with his Mega C.  My cats don't seem to like it so I haven't 
figured out how to dose them with enough to experiment with that.


Gary

LauraM wrote:

As some of you may have read in my post from last week, my vet and I had planned to 
start Bridget on LTCI. Unfortunately, when my vet tried to order it, there was a 
problem. For some reason, the GA state vet isn't allowing the drug into the state at 
this time, for anybody - some legal issue. So.what are my options? I was excited 
 hopeful about the possibilities of this drug  now Bridget can't have it.
What other therapies can you folks recommend? I've used interferon with two 
cats with no success. Bridget is currently asymptomatic, but I would like to 
try something, anything, to buy her as much time as possible. I'd appreciate 
any suggestions. Thanks.
Laura


  


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Re: [Felvtalk] Help my Mickey

[Heather]

Hi, curious what the growth on the lip was and how it was treated?

I encounter so many things in my feral colonies and have one now that I
think has eonsinophilic granuloma...anyway, just curious for learning
purposes what it was  how it was treated:-)

Thanks!

Heather

On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 12:09 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 One of my cats had a huge growth on her lip and five or six different vets
 misdiagnosed it. We gave her all kinds of medicines. Finally, I found a vet
 who knew exactly what it was and it was cleared up within a week. The same
 cat has lymphoma and it took over a year to get a correct diagnosis. Now I
 see vet specialists whenever possible it if is something unusual.

 --
 Michele

 -- Original message --
 From: Viky Digangi [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  He had a complete blood work up a couple of months ago and nothing was
 extremely
  high or low. I will suggest a biopsy tomorrow when I take him for his
 shot.
  Thanks
 
  Viky Digangi
  Support Enforcement Officer II
  Monroe Regional Office
  318-362-5280 ext 297
  Fax 318-362-3363
 
 
 
   10/12/08 9:07 PM 
  Hi,
 
  Have you had bloodwork done on Mickey lately to make sure that he's not
 anemic
  and to make sure there's not something else going on? I would suggest
 that you
  have your vet do a small biopsy of the growth to get an exact diagnosis
 and to
  rule out cancer. I think adenomas are common in older pets and are
 usually
  benign. I don't think it is common for them to bleed so extensively
 though. I've
  never seen any reference to adenomas being cause by Felv.
 
  I am not sure if prednisone would be helpful; I think you would need to
 know if
  the growth is cancerous or not.
 
  Good luck!
  Michele
 
  -- Original message --
  From: Viky Digangi
 
I adopted Mickey when he was about 5 months old and found out he was
 positive
   for felv. For 8 years he displayed no signs of the virus until last
 December
   when he fell in the garage about 8 feet and did not land on his feet.
 Although
   he was not seriously hurt this apparently triggered something with the
 virus.
   He became lethargic and would not eat. My vet at the time began a
 series of
  the
   immuno regulen shots and after about 3 months began giving them to him
 every
  two
   weeks.
  
   Last week I awoke to find flood all over my bed and followed the trail
 of
  blood
   drops through the house to Mickey. He had an adenoma on his back leg
 (which I
   had not noticed) which burst open. I took him to the vet I currently
 have and
   he said normally he would perform surgery to remove it but in Mickey's
  condition
   surgery would be dangerous for him. The adenoma had stopped bleeding by
 now so
   I said ok. It was fine all week until yesterday and it burst open
 again. He
   cannot keep losing blood this way and I was wondering if anyone else
 had
   encountered a situation like this. I thought of asking my vet if he
 would
   switch Mickey to prednisone to see if that would promote healing.
  
   Any suggestions?
  
  
   Viky Digangi
  
   Viky Digangi
   Support Enforcement Officer II
   Monroe Regional Office
   318-362-5280 ext 297
   Fax 318-362-3363
  
  
  
  
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Re: [Felvtalk] Help my Mickey

[Viky Digangi]

He is having surgery right now.  They will biopsy it and let me know.



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 Heather [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/13/08 8:03 AM 
Hi, curious what the growth on the lip was and how it was treated?

I encounter so many things in my feral colonies and have one now that I
think has eonsinophilic granuloma...anyway, just curious for learning
purposes what it was  how it was treated:-)

Thanks!

Heather

On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 12:09 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 One of my cats had a huge growth on her lip and five or six different vets
 misdiagnosed it. We gave her all kinds of medicines. Finally, I found a vet
 who knew exactly what it was and it was cleared up within a week. The same
 cat has lymphoma and it took over a year to get a correct diagnosis. Now I
 see vet specialists whenever possible it if is something unusual.

 --
 Michele

 -- Original message --
 From: Viky Digangi [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  He had a complete blood work up a couple of months ago and nothing was
 extremely
  high or low. I will suggest a biopsy tomorrow when I take him for his
 shot.
  Thanks
 
  Viky Digangi
  Support Enforcement Officer II
  Monroe Regional Office
  318-362-5280 ext 297
  Fax 318-362-3363
 
 
 
   10/12/08 9:07 PM 
  Hi,
 
  Have you had bloodwork done on Mickey lately to make sure that he's not
 anemic
  and to make sure there's not something else going on? I would suggest
 that you
  have your vet do a small biopsy of the growth to get an exact diagnosis
 and to
  rule out cancer. I think adenomas are common in older pets and are
 usually
  benign. I don't think it is common for them to bleed so extensively
 though. I've
  never seen any reference to adenomas being cause by Felv.
 
  I am not sure if prednisone would be helpful; I think you would need to
 know if
  the growth is cancerous or not.
 
  Good luck!
  Michele
 
  -- Original message --
  From: Viky Digangi
 
I adopted Mickey when he was about 5 months old and found out he was
 positive
   for felv. For 8 years he displayed no signs of the virus until last
 December
   when he fell in the garage about 8 feet and did not land on his feet.
 Although
   he was not seriously hurt this apparently triggered something with the
 virus.
   He became lethargic and would not eat. My vet at the time began a
 series of
  the
   immuno regulen shots and after about 3 months began giving them to him
 every
  two
   weeks.
  
   Last week I awoke to find flood all over my bed and followed the trail
 of
  blood
   drops through the house to Mickey. He had an adenoma on his back leg
 (which I
   had not noticed) which burst open. I took him to the vet I currently
 have and
   he said normally he would perform surgery to remove it but in Mickey's
  condition
   surgery would be dangerous for him. The adenoma had stopped bleeding by
 now so
   I said ok. It was fine all week until yesterday and it burst open
 again. He
   cannot keep losing blood this way and I was wondering if anyone else
 had
   encountered a situation like this. I thought of asking my vet if he
 would
   switch Mickey to prednisone to see if that would promote healing.
  
   Any suggestions?
  
  
   Viky Digangi
  
   Viky Digangi
   Support Enforcement Officer II
   Monroe Regional Office
   318-362-5280 ext 297
   Fax 318-362-3363
  
  
  
  
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Re: [Felvtalk] Help my Mickey

[Viky Digangi]

It's not a steroid.  It's immuno regulen.  He has been doing really well on it. 
   Thank you for your prayers.



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 Laurieskatz [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/12/08 9:56 PM 
What shot are you taking him in for?
Please be careful if it is a steroid injection. Injections put more
medication into a cat than the cat can process and if the cat has a bad
reaction to steroids, there is no way to cut back like you can with pills.
My Cooper had a bad reaction to his first prednisilone pill so I
discontinued them. Just my 2 cents. Prayers still coming your way
Laurie

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Viky Digangi
Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2008 9:53 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Help my Mickey

He had a complete blood work up a couple of months ago and nothing was
extremely high or low.  I will suggest a biopsy tomorrow when I take him for
his shot.  Thanks

Viky Digangi
Support Enforcement Officer II
Monroe Regional Office
318-362-5280 ext 297
Fax 318-362-3363



 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/12/08 9:07 PM 
Hi,

Have you had bloodwork done on Mickey lately to make sure that he's not
anemic and to make sure there's not something else going on? I would suggest
that you have your vet do a small biopsy of the growth to get an exact
diagnosis and to rule out cancer. I think adenomas are common in older pets
and are usually benign. I don't think it is common for them to bleed so
extensively though. I've never seen any reference to adenomas being cause by
Felv.

I am not sure if prednisone would be helpful; I think you would need to know
if the growth is cancerous or not.

Good luck!
Michele

-- Original message -- 
From: Viky Digangi [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

 I adopted Mickey when he was about 5 months old and found out he was
positive 
 for felv. For 8 years he displayed no signs of the virus until last
December 
 when he fell in the garage about 8 feet and did not land on his feet.
Although 
 he was not seriously hurt this apparently triggered something with the
virus. 
 He became lethargic and would not eat. My vet at the time began a series
of the 
 immuno regulen shots and after about 3 months began giving them to him
every two 
 weeks. 
 
 Last week I awoke to find flood all over my bed and followed the trail of
blood 
 drops through the house to Mickey. He had an adenoma on his back leg
(which I 
 had not noticed) which burst open. I took him to the vet I currently have
and 
 he said normally he would perform surgery to remove it but in Mickey's
condition 
 surgery would be dangerous for him. The adenoma had stopped bleeding by
now so 
 I said ok. It was fine all week until yesterday and it burst open again.
He 
 cannot keep losing blood this way and I was wondering if anyone else had 
 encountered a situation like this. I thought of asking my vet if he would 
 switch Mickey to prednisone to see if that would promote healing. 
 
 Any suggestions? 
 
 
 Viky Digangi 
 
 Viky Digangi 
 Support Enforcement Officer II 
 Monroe Regional Office 
 318-362-5280 ext 297 
 Fax 318-362-3363 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Help my Mickey

[Laurieskatz]

Oh! Thanks for clarifying. Anxious to hear about biopsy results.
Laurie

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It's not a steroid.  It's immuno regulen.  He has been doing really well on
it.Thank you for your prayers.



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 Laurieskatz [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/12/08 9:56 PM 
What shot are you taking him in for?
Please be careful if it is a steroid injection. Injections put more
medication into a cat than the cat can process and if the cat has a bad
reaction to steroids, there is no way to cut back like you can with pills.
My Cooper had a bad reaction to his first prednisilone pill so I
discontinued them. Just my 2 cents. Prayers still coming your way
Laurie

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Viky Digangi
Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2008 9:53 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Help my Mickey

He had a complete blood work up a couple of months ago and nothing was
extremely high or low.  I will suggest a biopsy tomorrow when I take him for
his shot.  Thanks

Viky Digangi
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Monroe Regional Office
318-362-5280 ext 297
Fax 318-362-3363



 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/12/08 9:07 PM 
Hi,

Have you had bloodwork done on Mickey lately to make sure that he's not
anemic and to make sure there's not something else going on? I would suggest
that you have your vet do a small biopsy of the growth to get an exact
diagnosis and to rule out cancer. I think adenomas are common in older pets
and are usually benign. I don't think it is common for them to bleed so
extensively though. I've never seen any reference to adenomas being cause by
Felv.

I am not sure if prednisone would be helpful; I think you would need to know
if the growth is cancerous or not.

Good luck!
Michele

-- Original message -- 
From: Viky Digangi [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

 I adopted Mickey when he was about 5 months old and found out he was
positive 
 for felv. For 8 years he displayed no signs of the virus until last
December 
 when he fell in the garage about 8 feet and did not land on his feet.
Although 
 he was not seriously hurt this apparently triggered something with the
virus. 
 He became lethargic and would not eat. My vet at the time began a series
of the 
 immuno regulen shots and after about 3 months began giving them to him
every two 
 weeks. 
 
 Last week I awoke to find flood all over my bed and followed the trail of
blood 
 drops through the house to Mickey. He had an adenoma on his back leg
(which I 
 had not noticed) which burst open. I took him to the vet I currently have
and 
 he said normally he would perform surgery to remove it but in Mickey's
condition 
 surgery would be dangerous for him. The adenoma had stopped bleeding by
now so 
 I said ok. It was fine all week until yesterday and it burst open again.
He 
 cannot keep losing blood this way and I was wondering if anyone else had 
 encountered a situation like this. I thought of asking my vet if he would 
 switch Mickey to prednisone to see if that would promote healing. 
 
 Any suggestions? 
 
 
 Viky Digangi 
 
 Viky Digangi 
 Support Enforcement Officer II 
 Monroe Regional Office 
 318-362-5280 ext 297 
 Fax 318-362-3363 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Help my Mickey

[dlgegg]

i know the vets have to go with what they are trained to do, but has anyone 
thought of holistic meds.  i have done some research on this and one thing i 
know is using aromatic oils is tricky with cats.  maleucca is especially 
deadly.  one whiff and your cat is dead.  which leads to use of aromatic oils 
to make house smell nice, etc.  we who have cats have to be especially careful. 
 ASPCA has some good info on it.  mostly, i was thinking of vitamins and 
minerals.  first, you have to locate a holistic vet to advise you on doses, 
etc.  worked for me with my cancer.  Prayer is our first line of defense, but 
using the plants, etc. that God has given us is next.  i was on 3 different 
chemos and when last one almost wiped out my red cells, dr. stopped it and we 
went back to you have 3 - 4 months.  after a year of no chemo, lots of 
vitamins, i was suddenly in remission.  now i have been in remission for 5 
years.  i trust my vet, he has already prescribed some herbals for Snuggles.  
things to help even out his ph and help his kidneys, but would really like to 
find holistic vet nearby to work with along side my vet.  dorlis
 Laurieskatz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 Oh! Thanks for clarifying. Anxious to hear about biopsy results.
 Laurie
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Viky Digangi
 Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 12:22 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Help my Mickey
 
 It's not a steroid.  It's immuno regulen.  He has been doing really well on
 it.Thank you for your prayers.
 
 
 
 Viky Digangi
 Support Enforcement Officer II
 Monroe Regional Office
 318-362-5280 ext 297
 Fax 318-362-3363
 
 
 
  Laurieskatz [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/12/08 9:56 PM 
 What shot are you taking him in for?
 Please be careful if it is a steroid injection. Injections put more
 medication into a cat than the cat can process and if the cat has a bad
 reaction to steroids, there is no way to cut back like you can with pills.
 My Cooper had a bad reaction to his first prednisilone pill so I
 discontinued them. Just my 2 cents. Prayers still coming your way
 Laurie
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Viky Digangi
 Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2008 9:53 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Help my Mickey
 
 He had a complete blood work up a couple of months ago and nothing was
 extremely high or low.  I will suggest a biopsy tomorrow when I take him for
 his shot.  Thanks
 
 Viky Digangi
 Support Enforcement Officer II
 Monroe Regional Office
 318-362-5280 ext 297
 Fax 318-362-3363
 
 
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/12/08 9:07 PM 
 Hi,
 
 Have you had bloodwork done on Mickey lately to make sure that he's not
 anemic and to make sure there's not something else going on? I would suggest
 that you have your vet do a small biopsy of the growth to get an exact
 diagnosis and to rule out cancer. I think adenomas are common in older pets
 and are usually benign. I don't think it is common for them to bleed so
 extensively though. I've never seen any reference to adenomas being cause by
 Felv.
 
 I am not sure if prednisone would be helpful; I think you would need to know
 if the growth is cancerous or not.
 
 Good luck!
 Michele
 
 -- Original message -- 
 From: Viky Digangi [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 
  I adopted Mickey when he was about 5 months old and found out he was
 positive 
  for felv. For 8 years he displayed no signs of the virus until last
 December 
  when he fell in the garage about 8 feet and did not land on his feet.
 Although 
  he was not seriously hurt this apparently triggered something with the
 virus. 
  He became lethargic and would not eat. My vet at the time began a series
 of the 
  immuno regulen shots and after about 3 months began giving them to him
 every two 
  weeks. 
  
  Last week I awoke to find flood all over my bed and followed the trail of
 blood 
  drops through the house to Mickey. He had an adenoma on his back leg
 (which I 
  had not noticed) which burst open. I took him to the vet I currently have
 and 
  he said normally he would perform surgery to remove it but in Mickey's
 condition 
  surgery would be dangerous for him. The adenoma had stopped bleeding by
 now so 
  I said ok. It was fine all week until yesterday and it burst open again.
 He 
  cannot keep losing blood this way and I was wondering if anyone else had 
  encountered a situation like this. I thought of asking my vet if he would 
  switch Mickey to prednisone to see if that would promote healing. 
  
  Any suggestions? 
  
  
  Viky Digangi 
  
  Viky Digangi 
  Support Enforcement Officer II 
  Monroe Regional Office 
  318-362-5280 ext 297 
  Fax 318-362-3363 
  
  
  
  
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[Felvtalk] Help my Mickey

[Viky Digangi]

I adopted Mickey when he was about 5 months old and found out he was positive 
for felv.  For 8 years he displayed no signs of the virus until last December 
when he fell in the garage about 8 feet and did not land on his feet. Although 
he was not seriously hurt this apparently triggered something with the virus.  
He became lethargic and would not eat.  My vet at the time began a series of 
the immuno regulen shots and after about 3 months began giving them to him 
every two weeks.  

Last week I awoke to find flood all over my bed and followed the trail of blood 
drops through the house to Mickey.  He had an adenoma on his back leg (which I 
had not noticed) which burst open.  I took him to the vet I currently have and 
he said normally he would perform surgery to remove it but in Mickey's 
condition surgery would be dangerous for him.  The adenoma had stopped bleeding 
by now so I said ok.  It was fine all week until yesterday and it burst open 
again.  He cannot keep losing blood this way and I was wondering if anyone else 
had encountered a situation like this.I thought of asking my vet if he 
would switch Mickey to prednisone to see if that would promote healing.

Any suggestions?


Viky Digangi

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Monroe Regional Office
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Re: [Felvtalk] Help my Mickey

[Viky Digangi]

Marylyn,

No I don't think there is a homeopathic vet in my area but I will check into 
that.  Thank you for responding.  I have never regretted keeping Mickey.  He 
has brought me so much pleasure and I thank God for every day I have with him.  
He is a little black and white tuxedo cat who weighs a whopping 7 pounds.


Viky Digangi
Support Enforcement Officer II
Monroe Regional Office
318-362-5280 ext 297
Fax 318-362-3363



 Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/12/08 7:49 PM 
Do you have access to a homeopathic/alternative vet?  If so, check  
about a consultation.  Dixie was treated by both her regular vets and  
an alternative vet.  I credit both with her quality of life.  I am so  
very grateful he has had so long with you and hope he has many more.   
You are definately doing something very right.  Know that in your  
heart and in your mind.
On Oct 12, 2008, at 7:44 PM, Viky Digangi wrote:

 I adopted Mickey when he was about 5 months old and found out he was  
 positive for felv.  For 8 years he displayed no signs of the virus  
 until last December when he fell in the garage about 8 feet and did  
 not land on his feet. Although he was not seriously hurt this  
 apparently triggered something with the virus.  He became lethargic  
 and would not eat.  My vet at the time began a series of the immuno  
 regulen shots and after about 3 months began giving them to him  
 every two weeks.

 Last week I awoke to find flood all over my bed and followed the  
 trail of blood drops through the house to Mickey.  He had an adenoma  
 on his back leg (which I had not noticed) which burst open.  I took  
 him to the vet I currently have and he said normally he would  
 perform surgery to remove it but in Mickey's condition surgery would  
 be dangerous for him.  The adenoma had stopped bleeding by now so I  
 said ok.  It was fine all week until yesterday and it burst open  
 again.  He cannot keep losing blood this way and I was wondering if  
 anyone else had encountered a situation like this.I thought of  
 asking my vet if he would switch Mickey to prednisone to see if that  
 would promote healing.

 Any suggestions?


 Viky Digangi

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Re: [Felvtalk] Help my Mickey

[CATHERINE DIDONNA]

I FEEL FOR YOU .I lost My Mickey,a female, to cancer..But Tiger I lost 
to felv..How I loved themCathy  Keep up the good work,Don't 
know about the leg problem. Are they related?
?
--- On Sun, 10/12/08, Viky Digangi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

From: Viky Digangi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Help my Mickey
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Sunday, October 12, 2008, 8:56 PM

Marylyn,

No I don't think there is a homeopathic vet in my area but I will check
into that.  Thank you for responding.  I have never regretted keeping Mickey. 
He has brought me so much pleasure and I thank God for every day I have with
him.  He is a little black and white tuxedo cat who weighs a whopping 7 pounds.


Viky Digangi
Support Enforcement Officer II
Monroe Regional Office
318-362-5280 ext 297
Fax 318-362-3363



 Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/12/08 7:49 PM

Do you have access to a homeopathic/alternative vet?  If so, check  
about a consultation.  Dixie was treated by both her regular vets and  
an alternative vet.  I credit both with her quality of life.  I am so  
very grateful he has had so long with you and hope he has many more.   
You are definately doing something very right.  Know that in your  
heart and in your mind.
On Oct 12, 2008, at 7:44 PM, Viky Digangi wrote:

 I adopted Mickey when he was about 5 months old and found out he was  
 positive for felv.  For 8 years he displayed no signs of the virus  
 until last December when he fell in the garage about 8 feet and did  
 not land on his feet. Although he was not seriously hurt this  
 apparently triggered something with the virus.  He became lethargic  
 and would not eat.  My vet at the time began a series of the immuno  
 regulen shots and after about 3 months began giving them to him  
 every two weeks.

 Last week I awoke to find flood all over my bed and followed the  
 trail of blood drops through the house to Mickey.  He had an adenoma  
 on his back leg (which I had not noticed) which burst open.  I took  
 him to the vet I currently have and he said normally he would  
 perform surgery to remove it but in Mickey's condition surgery would  
 be dangerous for him.  The adenoma had stopped bleeding by now so I  
 said ok.  It was fine all week until yesterday and it burst open  
 again.  He cannot keep losing blood this way and I was wondering if  
 anyone else had encountered a situation like this.I thought of  
 asking my vet if he would switch Mickey to prednisone to see if that  
 would promote healing.

 Any suggestions?


 Viky Digangi

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Re: [Felvtalk] Help my Mickey

[Marylyn]

If you don't have one I know of two that do phone consultations.  I  
prefer to have my friends checked out personally but Dr. EA Boswell  
(Louisville, Ky)  is the alternative vet for my two little ones and  
has been for several who have left this world.  My regular vets  
referred me to her in 1996.  Dr. Susan Maier, Simpsonville, Ky. is  
another very good alternative vet.  Both hold DVMs but chose to  
practice holistically.  Dr. Boswell is well known in show horse  
circles and has worked with the Louisville Zoo.  Both are very well  
qualified and respected.
On Oct 12, 2008, at 7:56 PM, Viky Digangi wrote:

 Marylyn,

 No I don't think there is a homeopathic vet in my area but I will  
 check into that.  Thank you for responding.  I have never regretted  
 keeping Mickey.  He has brought me so much pleasure and I thank God  
 for every day I have with him.  He is a little black and white  
 tuxedo cat who weighs a whopping 7 pounds.


 Viky Digangi
 Support Enforcement Officer II
 Monroe Regional Office
 318-362-5280 ext 297
 Fax 318-362-3363



 Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/12/08 7:49 PM 
 Do you have access to a homeopathic/alternative vet?  If so, check
 about a consultation.  Dixie was treated by both her regular vets and
 an alternative vet.  I credit both with her quality of life.  I am so
 very grateful he has had so long with you and hope he has many more.
 You are definately doing something very right.  Know that in your
 heart and in your mind.
 On Oct 12, 2008, at 7:44 PM, Viky Digangi wrote:

 I adopted Mickey when he was about 5 months old and found out he was
 positive for felv.  For 8 years he displayed no signs of the virus
 until last December when he fell in the garage about 8 feet and did
 not land on his feet. Although he was not seriously hurt this
 apparently triggered something with the virus.  He became lethargic
 and would not eat.  My vet at the time began a series of the immuno
 regulen shots and after about 3 months began giving them to him
 every two weeks.

 Last week I awoke to find flood all over my bed and followed the
 trail of blood drops through the house to Mickey.  He had an adenoma
 on his back leg (which I had not noticed) which burst open.  I took
 him to the vet I currently have and he said normally he would
 perform surgery to remove it but in Mickey's condition surgery would
 be dangerous for him.  The adenoma had stopped bleeding by now so I
 said ok.  It was fine all week until yesterday and it burst open
 again.  He cannot keep losing blood this way and I was wondering if
 anyone else had encountered a situation like this.I thought of
 asking my vet if he would switch Mickey to prednisone to see if that
 would promote healing.

 Any suggestions?


 Viky Digangi

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Re: [Felvtalk] Help my Mickey ~ link

[Laurieskatz]

http://www.familyvet.com/Cats/Cancer.html
I googled feline leg adenoma and got this page.
Lots here. Some of it scary (my Frankie ~FeLv_ ~ has chin lumps and one was
diagnosed as mast cell tumor) but it sounds like adenomas are not malignant.

Prayers for you both. Please post what you find out.
Someone else suggested holisitic vet. I am wondering, too, about an internal
medicine specialist. That is who Frankie is seeing tomorrow. 
Laurie

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of CATHERINE DIDONNA
Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2008 8:06 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Help my Mickey

I FEEL FOR YOU .I lost My Mickey,a female, to cancer..But Tiger I
lost to felv..How I loved themCathy  Keep up the good
work,Don't know about the leg problem. Are they related?
?
--- On Sun, 10/12/08, Viky Digangi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

From: Viky Digangi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Help my Mickey
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Sunday, October 12, 2008, 8:56 PM

Marylyn,

No I don't think there is a homeopathic vet in my area but I will check
into that.  Thank you for responding.  I have never regretted keeping
Mickey. 
He has brought me so much pleasure and I thank God for every day I have with
him.  He is a little black and white tuxedo cat who weighs a whopping 7
pounds.


Viky Digangi
Support Enforcement Officer II
Monroe Regional Office
318-362-5280 ext 297
Fax 318-362-3363



 Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/12/08 7:49 PM

Do you have access to a homeopathic/alternative vet?  If so, check  
about a consultation.  Dixie was treated by both her regular vets and  
an alternative vet.  I credit both with her quality of life.  I am so  
very grateful he has had so long with you and hope he has many more.   
You are definately doing something very right.  Know that in your  
heart and in your mind.
On Oct 12, 2008, at 7:44 PM, Viky Digangi wrote:

 I adopted Mickey when he was about 5 months old and found out he was  
 positive for felv.  For 8 years he displayed no signs of the virus  
 until last December when he fell in the garage about 8 feet and did  
 not land on his feet. Although he was not seriously hurt this  
 apparently triggered something with the virus.  He became lethargic  
 and would not eat.  My vet at the time began a series of the immuno  
 regulen shots and after about 3 months began giving them to him  
 every two weeks.

 Last week I awoke to find flood all over my bed and followed the  
 trail of blood drops through the house to Mickey.  He had an adenoma  
 on his back leg (which I had not noticed) which burst open.  I took  
 him to the vet I currently have and he said normally he would  
 perform surgery to remove it but in Mickey's condition surgery would  
 be dangerous for him.  The adenoma had stopped bleeding by now so I  
 said ok.  It was fine all week until yesterday and it burst open  
 again.  He cannot keep losing blood this way and I was wondering if  
 anyone else had encountered a situation like this.I thought of  
 asking my vet if he would switch Mickey to prednisone to see if that  
 would promote healing.

 Any suggestions?


 Viky Digangi

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Re: [Felvtalk] Help my Mickey

[Laurieskatz]

Wondering, do you have phone numbers?
If not, I am sure they can be located.
Thanks for this info!
Laurie

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marylyn
Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2008 8:09 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Help my Mickey

If you don't have one I know of two that do phone consultations.  I  
prefer to have my friends checked out personally but Dr. EA Boswell  
(Louisville, Ky)  is the alternative vet for my two little ones and  
has been for several who have left this world.  My regular vets  
referred me to her in 1996.  Dr. Susan Maier, Simpsonville, Ky. is  
another very good alternative vet.  Both hold DVMs but chose to  
practice holistically.  Dr. Boswell is well known in show horse  
circles and has worked with the Louisville Zoo.  Both are very well  
qualified and respected.
On Oct 12, 2008, at 7:56 PM, Viky Digangi wrote:

 Marylyn,

 No I don't think there is a homeopathic vet in my area but I will  
 check into that.  Thank you for responding.  I have never regretted  
 keeping Mickey.  He has brought me so much pleasure and I thank God  
 for every day I have with him.  He is a little black and white  
 tuxedo cat who weighs a whopping 7 pounds.


 Viky Digangi
 Support Enforcement Officer II
 Monroe Regional Office
 318-362-5280 ext 297
 Fax 318-362-3363



 Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/12/08 7:49 PM 
 Do you have access to a homeopathic/alternative vet?  If so, check
 about a consultation.  Dixie was treated by both her regular vets and
 an alternative vet.  I credit both with her quality of life.  I am so
 very grateful he has had so long with you and hope he has many more.
 You are definately doing something very right.  Know that in your
 heart and in your mind.
 On Oct 12, 2008, at 7:44 PM, Viky Digangi wrote:

 I adopted Mickey when he was about 5 months old and found out he was
 positive for felv.  For 8 years he displayed no signs of the virus
 until last December when he fell in the garage about 8 feet and did
 not land on his feet. Although he was not seriously hurt this
 apparently triggered something with the virus.  He became lethargic
 and would not eat.  My vet at the time began a series of the immuno
 regulen shots and after about 3 months began giving them to him
 every two weeks.

 Last week I awoke to find flood all over my bed and followed the
 trail of blood drops through the house to Mickey.  He had an adenoma
 on his back leg (which I had not noticed) which burst open.  I took
 him to the vet I currently have and he said normally he would
 perform surgery to remove it but in Mickey's condition surgery would
 be dangerous for him.  The adenoma had stopped bleeding by now so I
 said ok.  It was fine all week until yesterday and it burst open
 again.  He cannot keep losing blood this way and I was wondering if
 anyone else had encountered a situation like this.I thought of
 asking my vet if he would switch Mickey to prednisone to see if that
 would promote healing.

 Any suggestions?


 Viky Digangi

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Re: [Felvtalk] Help my Mickey

[Marylyn]

My wonderful Dixie, whose first stop we decided what to do with her  
after being tested for FeLV, was at Dr. Boswell, weighed just about  
that much.  She left this world June 12..I miss her so much.   
A month after she left she sent me a wonderful little boy named  
Copper.  Two weeks later, knowing there was no way one little kitten  
could keep me busy enough, she sent me a second little boy, Thomas  
(don't ask).  Both came from the pine thicket she came from and  
neither wanted to be invited to dinner by  the hawks, dogs, fox,  
coyotes.

http://horizonvetserv.com is Dr. Mair's website.  Dr. Boswell can be  
reached at 502.499.9663.  You can tell either one that Dixie and I  
sent you.

Again, blessings.
On Oct 12, 2008, at 7:56 PM, Viky Digangi wrote:

 Marylyn,

 No I don't think there is a homeopathic vet in my area but I will  
 check into that.  Thank you for responding.  I have never regretted  
 keeping Mickey.  He has brought me so much pleasure and I thank God  
 for every day I have with him.  He is a little black and white  
 tuxedo cat who weighs a whopping 7 pounds.


 Viky Digangi
 Support Enforcement Officer II
 Monroe Regional Office
 318-362-5280 ext 297
 Fax 318-362-3363



 Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/12/08 7:49 PM 
 Do you have access to a homeopathic/alternative vet?  If so, check
 about a consultation.  Dixie was treated by both her regular vets and
 an alternative vet.  I credit both with her quality of life.  I am so
 very grateful he has had so long with you and hope he has many more.
 You are definately doing something very right.  Know that in your
 heart and in your mind.
 On Oct 12, 2008, at 7:44 PM, Viky Digangi wrote:

 I adopted Mickey when he was about 5 months old and found out he was
 positive for felv.  For 8 years he displayed no signs of the virus
 until last December when he fell in the garage about 8 feet and did
 not land on his feet. Although he was not seriously hurt this
 apparently triggered something with the virus.  He became lethargic
 and would not eat.  My vet at the time began a series of the immuno
 regulen shots and after about 3 months began giving them to him
 every two weeks.

 Last week I awoke to find flood all over my bed and followed the
 trail of blood drops through the house to Mickey.  He had an adenoma
 on his back leg (which I had not noticed) which burst open.  I took
 him to the vet I currently have and he said normally he would
 perform surgery to remove it but in Mickey's condition surgery would
 be dangerous for him.  The adenoma had stopped bleeding by now so I
 said ok.  It was fine all week until yesterday and it burst open
 again.  He cannot keep losing blood this way and I was wondering if
 anyone else had encountered a situation like this.I thought of
 asking my vet if he would switch Mickey to prednisone to see if that
 would promote healing.

 Any suggestions?


 Viky Digangi

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Re: [Felvtalk] Help my Mickey

[Marylyn]

I just sent the website for Dr. Mair and the phone number for Dr.  
Boswell.  If you don't get them soon, please email again.  I love them  
both.
On Oct 12, 2008, at 8:12 PM, Laurieskatz wrote:

 Wondering, do you have phone numbers?
 If not, I am sure they can be located.
 Thanks for this info!
 Laurie

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marylyn
 Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2008 8:09 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Help my Mickey

 If you don't have one I know of two that do phone consultations.  I
 prefer to have my friends checked out personally but Dr. EA Boswell
 (Louisville, Ky)  is the alternative vet for my two little ones and
 has been for several who have left this world.  My regular vets
 referred me to her in 1996.  Dr. Susan Maier, Simpsonville, Ky. is
 another very good alternative vet.  Both hold DVMs but chose to
 practice holistically.  Dr. Boswell is well known in show horse
 circles and has worked with the Louisville Zoo.  Both are very well
 qualified and respected.
 On Oct 12, 2008, at 7:56 PM, Viky Digangi wrote:

 Marylyn,

 No I don't think there is a homeopathic vet in my area but I will
 check into that.  Thank you for responding.  I have never regretted
 keeping Mickey.  He has brought me so much pleasure and I thank God
 for every day I have with him.  He is a little black and white
 tuxedo cat who weighs a whopping 7 pounds.


 Viky Digangi
 Support Enforcement Officer II
 Monroe Regional Office
 318-362-5280 ext 297
 Fax 318-362-3363



 Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/12/08 7:49 PM 
 Do you have access to a homeopathic/alternative vet?  If so, check
 about a consultation.  Dixie was treated by both her regular vets and
 an alternative vet.  I credit both with her quality of life.  I am so
 very grateful he has had so long with you and hope he has many more.
 You are definately doing something very right.  Know that in your
 heart and in your mind.
 On Oct 12, 2008, at 7:44 PM, Viky Digangi wrote:

 I adopted Mickey when he was about 5 months old and found out he was
 positive for felv.  For 8 years he displayed no signs of the virus
 until last December when he fell in the garage about 8 feet and did
 not land on his feet. Although he was not seriously hurt this
 apparently triggered something with the virus.  He became lethargic
 and would not eat.  My vet at the time began a series of the immuno
 regulen shots and after about 3 months began giving them to him
 every two weeks.

 Last week I awoke to find flood all over my bed and followed the
 trail of blood drops through the house to Mickey.  He had an adenoma
 on his back leg (which I had not noticed) which burst open.  I took
 him to the vet I currently have and he said normally he would
 perform surgery to remove it but in Mickey's condition surgery would
 be dangerous for him.  The adenoma had stopped bleeding by now so I
 said ok.  It was fine all week until yesterday and it burst open
 again.  He cannot keep losing blood this way and I was wondering if
 anyone else had encountered a situation like this.I thought of
 asking my vet if he would switch Mickey to prednisone to see if that
 would promote healing.

 Any suggestions?


 Viky Digangi

 Viky Digangi
 Support Enforcement Officer II
 Monroe Regional Office
 318-362-5280 ext 297
 Fax 318-362-3363




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Re: [Felvtalk] Help my Mickey

[Laurieskatz]

Yes I did get them. Thanks!
I think my Keisha sent me a cat this summer. She is Tessa and I am trying to
introduce her to my other five. She is the exact body type (pudgy with short
legs) and personality of Keisha..purrs constantly, bites if over stimulated,
undemanding yet constantly available.
L

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marylyn
Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2008 8:24 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Help my Mickey

I just sent the website for Dr. Mair and the phone number for Dr.  
Boswell.  If you don't get them soon, please email again.  I love them  
both.
On Oct 12, 2008, at 8:12 PM, Laurieskatz wrote:

 Wondering, do you have phone numbers?
 If not, I am sure they can be located.
 Thanks for this info!
 Laurie

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marylyn
 Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2008 8:09 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Help my Mickey

 If you don't have one I know of two that do phone consultations.  I
 prefer to have my friends checked out personally but Dr. EA Boswell
 (Louisville, Ky)  is the alternative vet for my two little ones and
 has been for several who have left this world.  My regular vets
 referred me to her in 1996.  Dr. Susan Maier, Simpsonville, Ky. is
 another very good alternative vet.  Both hold DVMs but chose to
 practice holistically.  Dr. Boswell is well known in show horse
 circles and has worked with the Louisville Zoo.  Both are very well
 qualified and respected.
 On Oct 12, 2008, at 7:56 PM, Viky Digangi wrote:

 Marylyn,

 No I don't think there is a homeopathic vet in my area but I will
 check into that.  Thank you for responding.  I have never regretted
 keeping Mickey.  He has brought me so much pleasure and I thank God
 for every day I have with him.  He is a little black and white
 tuxedo cat who weighs a whopping 7 pounds.


 Viky Digangi
 Support Enforcement Officer II
 Monroe Regional Office
 318-362-5280 ext 297
 Fax 318-362-3363



 Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/12/08 7:49 PM 
 Do you have access to a homeopathic/alternative vet?  If so, check
 about a consultation.  Dixie was treated by both her regular vets and
 an alternative vet.  I credit both with her quality of life.  I am so
 very grateful he has had so long with you and hope he has many more.
 You are definately doing something very right.  Know that in your
 heart and in your mind.
 On Oct 12, 2008, at 7:44 PM, Viky Digangi wrote:

 I adopted Mickey when he was about 5 months old and found out he was
 positive for felv.  For 8 years he displayed no signs of the virus
 until last December when he fell in the garage about 8 feet and did
 not land on his feet. Although he was not seriously hurt this
 apparently triggered something with the virus.  He became lethargic
 and would not eat.  My vet at the time began a series of the immuno
 regulen shots and after about 3 months began giving them to him
 every two weeks.

 Last week I awoke to find flood all over my bed and followed the
 trail of blood drops through the house to Mickey.  He had an adenoma
 on his back leg (which I had not noticed) which burst open.  I took
 him to the vet I currently have and he said normally he would
 perform surgery to remove it but in Mickey's condition surgery would
 be dangerous for him.  The adenoma had stopped bleeding by now so I
 said ok.  It was fine all week until yesterday and it burst open
 again.  He cannot keep losing blood this way and I was wondering if
 anyone else had encountered a situation like this.I thought of
 asking my vet if he would switch Mickey to prednisone to see if that
 would promote healing.

 Any suggestions?


 Viky Digangi

 Viky Digangi
 Support Enforcement Officer II
 Monroe Regional Office
 318-362-5280 ext 297
 Fax 318-362-3363




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Re: [Felvtalk] Help my Mickey

[mdurante]

Hi,

Have you had bloodwork done on Mickey lately to make sure that he's not anemic 
and to make sure there's not something else going on? I would suggest that you 
have your vet do a small biopsy of the growth to get an exact diagnosis and to 
rule out cancer. I think adenomas are common in older pets and are usually 
benign. I don't think it is common for them to bleed so extensively though. 
I've never seen any reference to adenomas being cause by Felv.

I am not sure if prednisone would be helpful; I think you would need to know if 
the growth is cancerous or not.

Good luck!
Michele

-- Original message -- 
From: Viky Digangi [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

 I adopted Mickey when he was about 5 months old and found out he was positive 
 for felv. For 8 years he displayed no signs of the virus until last December 
 when he fell in the garage about 8 feet and did not land on his feet. 
 Although 
 he was not seriously hurt this apparently triggered something with the virus. 
 He became lethargic and would not eat. My vet at the time began a series of 
 the 
 immuno regulen shots and after about 3 months began giving them to him every 
 two 
 weeks. 
 
 Last week I awoke to find flood all over my bed and followed the trail of 
 blood 
 drops through the house to Mickey. He had an adenoma on his back leg (which I 
 had not noticed) which burst open. I took him to the vet I currently have and 
 he said normally he would perform surgery to remove it but in Mickey's 
 condition 
 surgery would be dangerous for him. The adenoma had stopped bleeding by now 
 so 
 I said ok. It was fine all week until yesterday and it burst open again. He 
 cannot keep losing blood this way and I was wondering if anyone else had 
 encountered a situation like this. I thought of asking my vet if he would 
 switch Mickey to prednisone to see if that would promote healing. 
 
 Any suggestions? 
 
 
 Viky Digangi 
 
 Viky Digangi 
 Support Enforcement Officer II 
 Monroe Regional Office 
 318-362-5280 ext 297 
 Fax 318-362-3363 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Help my Mickey

[Viky Digangi]

I got them thanks.  I am taking him tomorrow for a shot.  I am going to talk to 
the vet re: what his plans are and then I will decide what to do next.

Viky Digangi
Support Enforcement Officer II
Monroe Regional Office
318-362-5280 ext 297
Fax 318-362-3363



 Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/12/08 8:24 PM 
I just sent the website for Dr. Mair and the phone number for Dr.  
Boswell.  If you don't get them soon, please email again.  I love them  
both.
On Oct 12, 2008, at 8:12 PM, Laurieskatz wrote:

 Wondering, do you have phone numbers?
 If not, I am sure they can be located.
 Thanks for this info!
 Laurie

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marylyn
 Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2008 8:09 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Help my Mickey

 If you don't have one I know of two that do phone consultations.  I
 prefer to have my friends checked out personally but Dr. EA Boswell
 (Louisville, Ky)  is the alternative vet for my two little ones and
 has been for several who have left this world.  My regular vets
 referred me to her in 1996.  Dr. Susan Maier, Simpsonville, Ky. is
 another very good alternative vet.  Both hold DVMs but chose to
 practice holistically.  Dr. Boswell is well known in show horse
 circles and has worked with the Louisville Zoo.  Both are very well
 qualified and respected.
 On Oct 12, 2008, at 7:56 PM, Viky Digangi wrote:

 Marylyn,

 No I don't think there is a homeopathic vet in my area but I will
 check into that.  Thank you for responding.  I have never regretted
 keeping Mickey.  He has brought me so much pleasure and I thank God
 for every day I have with him.  He is a little black and white
 tuxedo cat who weighs a whopping 7 pounds.


 Viky Digangi
 Support Enforcement Officer II
 Monroe Regional Office
 318-362-5280 ext 297
 Fax 318-362-3363



 Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/12/08 7:49 PM 
 Do you have access to a homeopathic/alternative vet?  If so, check
 about a consultation.  Dixie was treated by both her regular vets and
 an alternative vet.  I credit both with her quality of life.  I am so
 very grateful he has had so long with you and hope he has many more.
 You are definately doing something very right.  Know that in your
 heart and in your mind.
 On Oct 12, 2008, at 7:44 PM, Viky Digangi wrote:

 I adopted Mickey when he was about 5 months old and found out he was
 positive for felv.  For 8 years he displayed no signs of the virus
 until last December when he fell in the garage about 8 feet and did
 not land on his feet. Although he was not seriously hurt this
 apparently triggered something with the virus.  He became lethargic
 and would not eat.  My vet at the time began a series of the immuno
 regulen shots and after about 3 months began giving them to him
 every two weeks.

 Last week I awoke to find flood all over my bed and followed the
 trail of blood drops through the house to Mickey.  He had an adenoma
 on his back leg (which I had not noticed) which burst open.  I took
 him to the vet I currently have and he said normally he would
 perform surgery to remove it but in Mickey's condition surgery would
 be dangerous for him.  The adenoma had stopped bleeding by now so I
 said ok.  It was fine all week until yesterday and it burst open
 again.  He cannot keep losing blood this way and I was wondering if
 anyone else had encountered a situation like this.I thought of
 asking my vet if he would switch Mickey to prednisone to see if that
 would promote healing.

 Any suggestions?


 Viky Digangi

 Viky Digangi
 Support Enforcement Officer II
 Monroe Regional Office
 318-362-5280 ext 297
 Fax 318-362-3363




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Re: [Felvtalk] Help my Mickey

[Viky Digangi]

He had a complete blood work up a couple of months ago and nothing was 
extremely high or low.  I will suggest a biopsy tomorrow when I take him for 
his shot.  Thanks

Viky Digangi
Support Enforcement Officer II
Monroe Regional Office
318-362-5280 ext 297
Fax 318-362-3363



 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/12/08 9:07 PM 
Hi,

Have you had bloodwork done on Mickey lately to make sure that he's not anemic 
and to make sure there's not something else going on? I would suggest that you 
have your vet do a small biopsy of the growth to get an exact diagnosis and to 
rule out cancer. I think adenomas are common in older pets and are usually 
benign. I don't think it is common for them to bleed so extensively though. 
I've never seen any reference to adenomas being cause by Felv.

I am not sure if prednisone would be helpful; I think you would need to know if 
the growth is cancerous or not.

Good luck!
Michele

-- Original message -- 
From: Viky Digangi [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

 I adopted Mickey when he was about 5 months old and found out he was positive 
 for felv. For 8 years he displayed no signs of the virus until last December 
 when he fell in the garage about 8 feet and did not land on his feet. 
 Although 
 he was not seriously hurt this apparently triggered something with the virus. 
 He became lethargic and would not eat. My vet at the time began a series of 
 the 
 immuno regulen shots and after about 3 months began giving them to him every 
 two 
 weeks. 
 
 Last week I awoke to find flood all over my bed and followed the trail of 
 blood 
 drops through the house to Mickey. He had an adenoma on his back leg (which I 
 had not noticed) which burst open. I took him to the vet I currently have and 
 he said normally he would perform surgery to remove it but in Mickey's 
 condition 
 surgery would be dangerous for him. The adenoma had stopped bleeding by now 
 so 
 I said ok. It was fine all week until yesterday and it burst open again. He 
 cannot keep losing blood this way and I was wondering if anyone else had 
 encountered a situation like this. I thought of asking my vet if he would 
 switch Mickey to prednisone to see if that would promote healing. 
 
 Any suggestions? 
 
 
 Viky Digangi 
 
 Viky Digangi 
 Support Enforcement Officer II 
 Monroe Regional Office 
 318-362-5280 ext 297 
 Fax 318-362-3363 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Help my Mickey

[Viky Digangi]

He had a complete blood work up a couple of months ago and nothing was 
extremely high or low.  I will suggest a biopsy tomorrow when I take him for 
his shot.  Thanks

Viky Digangi
Support Enforcement Officer II
Monroe Regional Office
318-362-5280 ext 297
Fax 318-362-3363



 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/12/08 9:07 PM 
Hi,

Have you had bloodwork done on Mickey lately to make sure that he's not anemic 
and to make sure there's not something else going on? I would suggest that you 
have your vet do a small biopsy of the growth to get an exact diagnosis and to 
rule out cancer. I think adenomas are common in older pets and are usually 
benign. I don't think it is common for them to bleed so extensively though. 
I've never seen any reference to adenomas being cause by Felv.

I am not sure if prednisone would be helpful; I think you would need to know if 
the growth is cancerous or not.

Good luck!
Michele

-- Original message -- 
From: Viky Digangi [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

 I adopted Mickey when he was about 5 months old and found out he was positive 
 for felv. For 8 years he displayed no signs of the virus until last December 
 when he fell in the garage about 8 feet and did not land on his feet. 
 Although 
 he was not seriously hurt this apparently triggered something with the virus. 
 He became lethargic and would not eat. My vet at the time began a series of 
 the 
 immuno regulen shots and after about 3 months began giving them to him every 
 two 
 weeks. 
 
 Last week I awoke to find flood all over my bed and followed the trail of 
 blood 
 drops through the house to Mickey. He had an adenoma on his back leg (which I 
 had not noticed) which burst open. I took him to the vet I currently have and 
 he said normally he would perform surgery to remove it but in Mickey's 
 condition 
 surgery would be dangerous for him. The adenoma had stopped bleeding by now 
 so 
 I said ok. It was fine all week until yesterday and it burst open again. He 
 cannot keep losing blood this way and I was wondering if anyone else had 
 encountered a situation like this. I thought of asking my vet if he would 
 switch Mickey to prednisone to see if that would promote healing. 
 
 Any suggestions? 
 
 
 Viky Digangi 
 
 Viky Digangi 
 Support Enforcement Officer II 
 Monroe Regional Office 
 318-362-5280 ext 297 
 Fax 318-362-3363 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Help my Mickey

[Laurieskatz]

What shot are you taking him in for?
Please be careful if it is a steroid injection. Injections put more
medication into a cat than the cat can process and if the cat has a bad
reaction to steroids, there is no way to cut back like you can with pills.
My Cooper had a bad reaction to his first prednisilone pill so I
discontinued them. Just my 2 cents. Prayers still coming your way
Laurie

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Viky Digangi
Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2008 9:53 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Help my Mickey

He had a complete blood work up a couple of months ago and nothing was
extremely high or low.  I will suggest a biopsy tomorrow when I take him for
his shot.  Thanks

Viky Digangi
Support Enforcement Officer II
Monroe Regional Office
318-362-5280 ext 297
Fax 318-362-3363



 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/12/08 9:07 PM 
Hi,

Have you had bloodwork done on Mickey lately to make sure that he's not
anemic and to make sure there's not something else going on? I would suggest
that you have your vet do a small biopsy of the growth to get an exact
diagnosis and to rule out cancer. I think adenomas are common in older pets
and are usually benign. I don't think it is common for them to bleed so
extensively though. I've never seen any reference to adenomas being cause by
Felv.

I am not sure if prednisone would be helpful; I think you would need to know
if the growth is cancerous or not.

Good luck!
Michele

-- Original message -- 
From: Viky Digangi [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

 I adopted Mickey when he was about 5 months old and found out he was
positive 
 for felv. For 8 years he displayed no signs of the virus until last
December 
 when he fell in the garage about 8 feet and did not land on his feet.
Although 
 he was not seriously hurt this apparently triggered something with the
virus. 
 He became lethargic and would not eat. My vet at the time began a series
of the 
 immuno regulen shots and after about 3 months began giving them to him
every two 
 weeks. 
 
 Last week I awoke to find flood all over my bed and followed the trail of
blood 
 drops through the house to Mickey. He had an adenoma on his back leg
(which I 
 had not noticed) which burst open. I took him to the vet I currently have
and 
 he said normally he would perform surgery to remove it but in Mickey's
condition 
 surgery would be dangerous for him. The adenoma had stopped bleeding by
now so 
 I said ok. It was fine all week until yesterday and it burst open again.
He 
 cannot keep losing blood this way and I was wondering if anyone else had 
 encountered a situation like this. I thought of asking my vet if he would 
 switch Mickey to prednisone to see if that would promote healing. 
 
 Any suggestions? 
 
 
 Viky Digangi 
 
 Viky Digangi 
 Support Enforcement Officer II 
 Monroe Regional Office 
 318-362-5280 ext 297 
 Fax 318-362-3363 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Help my Mickey

[mdurante]

One of my cats had a huge growth on her lip and five or six different vets 
misdiagnosed it. We gave her all kinds of medicines. Finally, I found a vet who 
knew exactly what it was and it was cleared up within a week. The same cat has 
lymphoma and it took over a year to get a correct diagnosis. Now I see vet 
specialists whenever possible it if is something unusual. 

--
Michele

-- Original message -- 
From: Viky Digangi [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

 He had a complete blood work up a couple of months ago and nothing was 
 extremely 
 high or low. I will suggest a biopsy tomorrow when I take him for his shot. 
 Thanks 
 
 Viky Digangi 
 Support Enforcement Officer II 
 Monroe Regional Office 
 318-362-5280 ext 297 
 Fax 318-362-3363 
 
 
 
  10/12/08 9:07 PM  
 Hi, 
 
 Have you had bloodwork done on Mickey lately to make sure that he's not 
 anemic 
 and to make sure there's not something else going on? I would suggest that 
 you 
 have your vet do a small biopsy of the growth to get an exact diagnosis and 
 to 
 rule out cancer. I think adenomas are common in older pets and are usually 
 benign. I don't think it is common for them to bleed so extensively though. 
 I've 
 never seen any reference to adenomas being cause by Felv. 
 
 I am not sure if prednisone would be helpful; I think you would need to know 
 if 
 the growth is cancerous or not. 
 
 Good luck! 
 Michele 
 
 -- Original message -- 
 From: Viky Digangi 
 
  I adopted Mickey when he was about 5 months old and found out he was 
  positive 
  for felv. For 8 years he displayed no signs of the virus until last 
  December 
  when he fell in the garage about 8 feet and did not land on his feet. 
  Although 
  he was not seriously hurt this apparently triggered something with the 
  virus. 
  He became lethargic and would not eat. My vet at the time began a series of 
 the 
  immuno regulen shots and after about 3 months began giving them to him 
  every 
 two 
  weeks. 
  
  Last week I awoke to find flood all over my bed and followed the trail of 
 blood 
  drops through the house to Mickey. He had an adenoma on his back leg (which 
  I 
  had not noticed) which burst open. I took him to the vet I currently have 
  and 
  he said normally he would perform surgery to remove it but in Mickey's 
 condition 
  surgery would be dangerous for him. The adenoma had stopped bleeding by now 
  so 
  I said ok. It was fine all week until yesterday and it burst open again. He 
  cannot keep losing blood this way and I was wondering if anyone else had 
  encountered a situation like this. I thought of asking my vet if he would 
  switch Mickey to prednisone to see if that would promote healing. 
  
  Any suggestions? 
  
  
  Viky Digangi 
  
  Viky Digangi 
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  Monroe Regional Office 
  318-362-5280 ext 297 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Help with Anemia questions...

[catatonya]

My first positive cat lived to 7 years old.  My current is 9-10 years old.  I 
don't do anything special for them.  They are fine, and they live with negative 
cats.  If they get a uri or something like that from one of my negatives, it 
has been my experience that it is harder for them to get well.  That's about 
it.  FeLV is not a death sentence.  Many more cats, from what I've heard, die 
from renal failure.
  tonya

Joey Dickens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hey, I appreciate all the answers I've gotten thus far--I'm Oscar's 
mommy--the cat who has feline leukemia and severe anemia. Since I was still 
reacting to the news (i.e. crying) when the vet was explaining everything to me 
over the phone last week, I have decided to meet him for a consultation 
tomorrow to get some answers. I want to be able to ask him everything, so I was 
wondering if you all could help me with some questions to ask him. What I'm 
pretty much wondering is if there is anything to do to help him live longer 
(but I probably need specifics) and I need to ask him if there is a recommended 
food that Oscar should be eating due to his Anemia. 

Does anyone know of any supplements that I should ask the vet about? Vitamins, 
etc. 

Does anyone know of some specific foods that I should ask about?

Has anyone tried anything before with an Anemic cat that helped them pull out 
of it? 

Oscar does not have fleas, and none of the other cats in our household do 
either. They are all strictly indoor cats, so I appreciate the warning to stay 
aware of fleas, but that isn't the cause of his anemia. I will certainly keep 
an eye out for them, and I will also be careful how I treat them if fleas do 
pop up.

I would really like to pick the vet's brain, but I would like to do it with a 
little more information in mine so I can ask him educated questions. Thanks in 
advance for all of your help :) 

Joey and Oscar




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Re: [Felvtalk] Help with Anemia questions...

[Sue Frank Koren]

My cat Buzz recently had anemia - his blood level was down to eight.  None
of my cats have fleas either but I put him on Doxycycline anyway on the
advise of people in this group.  After I consulted with my vet he was also
put on a high dose of Prednisolone.  He began to improve immediately and his
red blood cells are now in the normal range.  We have been backing off on
the Prednisolone and the Doxycycline ended a few weeks ago.  Within a few
weeks he will be off of all medication.
Buzz' anemia was the regenerative kind.  He never completely stopped eating
and when he was sickest I fed him tuna, cooked chicken for him and gave him
his favorite treats, Temptations.  I would offer him something to eat as
often as I could throughout the day.  I crushed up cat vitamins and mixed
them with a little bit of tuna and the tuna juice.  He also liked the cat
milk, Cat Sip.
Buzz is a very lucky cat that he came back after his red blood cell count
was that low.  I wish you and Oscar the best of luck also.
Prayers to both of you,
Sue

- Original Message - 
From: Joey Dickens [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 7:13 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Help with Anemia questions...


 Hey, I appreciate all the answers I've gotten thus far--I'm Oscar's
 mommy--the cat who has feline leukemia and severe anemia.  Since I was
 still reacting to the news (i.e. crying) when the vet was explaining
 everything to me over the phone last week, I have decided to meet him for
 a consultation tomorrow to get some answers.  I want to be able to ask him
 everything, so I was wondering if you all could help me with some
 questions to ask him.  What I'm pretty much wondering is if there is
 anything to do to help him live longer (but I probably need specifics) and
 I need to ask him if there is a recommended food that Oscar should be
 eating due to his Anemia.

 Does anyone know of any supplements that I should ask the vet about?
 Vitamins, etc.

 Does anyone know of some specific foods that I should ask about?

 Has anyone tried anything before with an Anemic cat that helped them pull
 out of it?

 Oscar does not have fleas, and none of the other cats in our household do
 either.  They are all strictly indoor cats, so I appreciate the warning to
 stay aware of fleas, but that isn't the cause of his anemia.  I will
 certainly keep an eye out for them, and I will also be careful how I treat
 them if fleas do pop up.

 I would really like to pick the vet's brain, but I would like to do it
 with a little more information in mine so I can ask him educated
 questions.  Thanks in advance for all of your help :)

 Joey and Oscar




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Re: [Felvtalk] Help with Anemia questions...

[Belinda Sauro]

Make sure the vet puts him on doxocycline if he isn't already taking 
it, it may save his life if he has hemobartonella.  Fleas can and do 
ride in on your shoes, so don't be fooled into thinking just because 
your cats are indoor only they can't have fleas.  There may only be one 
flea that got in and all it takes is one to cause a problem.

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[Felvtalk] Help with raw diet

[April and Jay]

Hello, I have been researching feeding my cats a raw diet. I found two 
different supplements Feline Instincts My Natural Cat and Instincts TC by 
feline future. I don't know which is better. Does anyone use these? Maybe 
someone with a better knowledge in cat diet can suggest which is better? Thanks!
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[Felvtalk] Help with Anemia questions...

[Joey Dickens]

Hey, I appreciate all the answers I've gotten thus far--I'm Oscar's mommy--the 
cat who has feline leukemia and severe anemia.  Since I was still reacting to 
the news (i.e. crying) when the vet was explaining everything to me over the 
phone last week, I have decided to meet him for a consultation tomorrow to get 
some answers.  I want to be able to ask him everything, so I was wondering if 
you all could help me with some questions to ask him.  What I'm pretty much 
wondering is if there is anything to do to help him live longer (but I probably 
need specifics) and I need to ask him if there is a recommended food that Oscar 
should be eating due to his Anemia.  

Does anyone know of any supplements that I should ask the vet about?  Vitamins, 
etc.  

Does anyone know of some specific foods that I should ask about?

Has anyone tried anything before with an Anemic cat that helped them pull out 
of it?  

Oscar does not have fleas, and none of the other cats in our household do 
either.  They are all strictly indoor cats, so I appreciate the warning to stay 
aware of fleas, but that isn't the cause of his anemia.  I will certainly keep 
an eye out for them, and I will also be careful how I treat them if fleas do 
pop up.

I would really like to pick the vet's brain, but I would like to do it with a 
little more information in mine so I can ask him educated questions.  Thanks in 
advance for all of your help :)  

Joey and Oscar



  
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Re: [Felvtalk] Help with Anemia questions...

[Sally Davis]

Hi Joey

I am sure you will get lots of help and answers. I can give you my
experience.

My Junior was diagnosed with anemia in 2006. The vet thought was sue to
hemabartenella(sp). I know you say no fleas but as she explained it only
takes one flea. He was put on antibiotics. In the meanwhile I had another
cat get very sick. Hospitalized with anemia, jaundiced and probable fatty
liver disease. He was hiding the fact he was not eating so probably
lethargic which is what I noticed before taking him any. Well he died at the
vets office. Even though on IV antibiotics and fluids. I go into panic mode.
I take Junior back to see his vet(different clinic). Well Junior though
showing no symptoms is running a fever of 106.5. Ok they keep him subq
fluids and she calls me to test for FELV. He had tested negative 4 months
prior to this, but symptoms dictated to test again. He is positive. He stays
on antibiotics and I am dealing with a crisis because I have 11 cats now 10.
2 more test positive. I isolate Junior and Tiny until all my cats can get
vaccinated. The other thing which stabilized Junior was the Immunoregulin.
His anemia went away and never returned to my knowledge. He crashed this
past spring with breathing difficulties due to heart problems. This could
have been brought on by anemia but he did not have pale gums or nose ,so I
do not think that was a causative factor. I had junior for a year and a half
past his dx in spite of being very symptomatic. He had fairly good quality
of life. There are other things you can do once Kitty's anemia is stable.
This is my experience. Tiny who was asymptomatic actually only live a couple
months he threw a blood clot and is unknown if FELV had anything to do with
his death.

Oh yes ask if the anemia is regenerative or non regenerative

What helped with anemia. The antibiotics assuming he had hemabart. He also
got several B12 shots when he was treated for his fever. I gave him Pet
tinic (vitamins and iron).

Sally


On 9/16/08, Joey Dickens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  careful how I treat them if fleas do pop up.

 I would really like to pick the vet's brain, but I would like to do it with
 a little more information in mine so I can ask him educated
 questions.  Thanks in advance for all of your help :)

 Joey and Oscar




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