Re: [Felvtalk] Harley is in the hospital
I'm very glad to hear Harley is doing so well. Hoping he'll be home tomorrow. With my Vet's approval, I keep famciclovir on hand for possible herpes flares, and have had great results from it. I use the NOW lysine powder, and the cats don't seem to notice it in their food, wet or dry. This seems to be the cheapest currently, but I'm often able to add it to other orders I place, so I keep my eyes open :) HTH Margo -Original Message- From: Marsha mar...@lynxe.com Sent: Dec 16, 2014 8:18 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Harley is in the hospital Deb, the crazy thing is that symptoms can be variable. I have been wracking my brain and talking to the vet, and one thing that looks like a possibility now is that Brock, the FeLV+ cat I adopted 2.5 months ago, may be a carrier of whatever URI virus it is. This all seemed to start (but could be coincidence) when our weather got weird here. Big temperature inversion, poor air quality, temps 20 degrees above normal, fog/mist/drizzle for a week. Brock was a little sneezy, but no other symptoms. Harley has *never* been sick before, in the 4+ years he's been with me. I am thinking maybe the odd weather threw them for a loop, and the virus flared up in Brock, and Harley got it from him. But Brock, being younger, and not as far along in immune suppression, had such mild symptoms that I didn't think it was a URI, just maybe some dust made him sneeze. But that's all just a theory. In any case, I think I better get those lysine chews or the capsules, since they wouldn't eat the gel. Don't know for sure if this is herpes virus, but could be, especially since I just read that can cause pharyngitis. And I believe that's what the lysine is supposed to help the most, is FHV. Marsha On 12/16/2014 6:31 PM, Debi Kraal wrote: Marsha- Thanks for the the information you have been sharing. All is well so far with my Felv + , Bean (slayer of dragons). Good to hear what sort of symptoms start with the all to common URI with these cats. Glad to hear Harley is fighting the bug... Deb ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Harley is in the hospital
Thanks for the information Deb Sent from my iPad On Dec 16, 2014, at 11:01 PM, Marsha mar...@lynxe.com wrote: Lysine slows down the replication feline herpes virus because it competes with arginine that the virus needs. More info here on URI viruses and different treatments including lysine: http://www.2ndchance.info/vaccination-Ford2009.pdf Marsha On 12/16/2014 10:52 PM, Debi Kraal wrote: Marsha- So tell me about lysine tablets for cats? Is there some indication that it helps Felv+ cats? Thanks, Deb ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Harley is in the hospital
ANNIE (8 YRS AND FELV) ALSO SNEEZES SOME WHEN WE HAVE THAT KIND OF WEATHER OR WHEN THE FURNACE FIRST COMES ON. SHE GETS A GOOEY EYE EVER SO OFTEN BUT NOT TOO MUCH AND NEVER HAS HAD A NASAL DISCHARGFE. i THINK HER IMMUNE SYSTEM IS JUST WEAK ENOUGH TO LET THINGS GET STARTED BUT THEN SHE OVERCOMES THEM. I JUST KEEP A CLOSE EYE ON HER SO I CAN STOP THINGS BEFORE THEY HAVE A CHANCE TO GET HER. Marsha mar...@lynxe.com wrote: No, he doesn't go outside, but I am now worried that the bag of DRY leaves I brought them to play in, might have been a potential source of spores. We have also had unseasonably warm weather plus a week of fog/mist/drizzle, big temperature inversion that caused air quality alerts. There is outside air that comes in through the soffit and rafters. But my other FeLV+ cat is fine, though he did sneeze a bit yesterday. No discharge from his nose, his appetite is fine. But he is a little younger than Harley, so maybe the FeLV hasn't done as much damage to his immune cells yet. The occasional mouse gets inside (I live in the country) too, and Harley is quite good at catching them. I sometimes give him wormer or Frontline Plus, because of that. Marshazas Sorry, Oona just stepped on the keyboard. She is FeLV negative, guess she thinks the positive boys have been taking too much attention away from her. ;-) On 12/15/2014 6:37 PM, dlg...@windstream.net wrote: YOU MENTIONED FUNGAL, HOW WOULD HE HAVE GOTTEN INTO FUNGUS. DOES HE GO AOUTSID3E? Lance lini...@fastmail.fm wrote: ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Harley is in the hospital
Just came back from visiting with Harley. Definitely seems to be some kind of upper respiratory virus. The swelling in his larynx seems to be better, but now he has some nasal discharge. I reached for a kleenex, and the tech said, never mind, he just ate it. He is interested in food now, but it's hard for him to eat with the e-collar on, and maybe there is some sinus pressure too when he leans forward. His energy level is good, as is his interest in getting into anything he can get his paws on (he was allowed out of his cage while I was with him in the isolation room). I had to keep a close eye on him so he didn't scatter medical supplies all over the room. He's staying one more night, and I'll take him home tomorrow if all looks good. Next week I bring him back to get another echocardiogram to check his heart. The followup costs less than half what the first one costs, thankfully. Marsha On 12/16/2014 12:54 PM, dlg...@windstream.net wrote: ANNIE (8 YRS AND FELV) ALSO SNEEZES SOME WHEN WE HAVE THAT KIND OF WEATHER OR WHEN THE FURNACE FIRST COMES ON. SHE GETS A GOOEY EYE EVER SO OFTEN BUT NOT TOO MUCH AND NEVER HAS HAD A NASAL DISCHARGFE. i THINK HER IMMUNE SYSTEM IS JUST WEAK ENOUGH TO LET THINGS GET STARTED BUT THEN SHE OVERCOMES THEM. I JUST KEEP A CLOSE EYE ON HER SO I CAN STOP THINGS BEFORE THEY HAVE A CHANCE TO GET HER. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Go Harley! On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 4:22 PM, Marsha mar...@lynxe.com wrote: Just came back from visiting with Harley. Definitely seems to be some kind of upper respiratory virus. The swelling in his larynx seems to be better, but now he has some nasal discharge. I reached for a kleenex, and the tech said, never mind, he just ate it. He is interested in food now, but it's hard for him to eat with the e-collar on, and maybe there is some sinus pressure too when he leans forward. His energy level is good, as is his interest in getting into anything he can get his paws on (he was allowed out of his cage while I was with him in the isolation room). I had to keep a close eye on him so he didn't scatter medical supplies all over the room. He's staying one more night, and I'll take him home tomorrow if all looks good. Next week I bring him back to get another echocardiogram to check his heart. The followup costs less than half what the first one costs, thankfully. Marsha On 12/16/2014 12:54 PM, dlg...@windstream.net wrote: ANNIE (8 YRS AND FELV) ALSO SNEEZES SOME WHEN WE HAVE THAT KIND OF WEATHER OR WHEN THE FURNACE FIRST COMES ON. SHE GETS A GOOEY EYE EVER SO OFTEN BUT NOT TOO MUCH AND NEVER HAS HAD A NASAL DISCHARGFE. i THINK HER IMMUNE SYSTEM IS JUST WEAK ENOUGH TO LET THINGS GET STARTED BUT THEN SHE OVERCOMES THEM. I JUST KEEP A CLOSE EYE ON HER SO I CAN STOP THINGS BEFORE THEY HAVE A CHANCE TO GET HER. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Harley is in the hospital
God bless you Marsha well done .Harley is in good hands . I have two cats with felv BELLA she is 3 years old and TROY he is 1 year old. I suppose all of us in this this group are always alert for a sign of illness in our cats . Even a sneeze a cough is a big thing for us . As we all know that our felines that we love so much are so delicate and even a simple flu can take them from us . Keep us informed on Harley Hopefully he will be home tomorrow Grace From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katherine K. Sent: 16 December 2014 22:24 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Harley is in the hospital Go Harley! On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 4:22 PM, Marsha mar...@lynxe.com wrote: Just came back from visiting with Harley. Definitely seems to be some kind of upper respiratory virus. The swelling in his larynx seems to be better, but now he has some nasal discharge. I reached for a kleenex, and the tech said, never mind, he just ate it. He is interested in food now, but it's hard for him to eat with the e-collar on, and maybe there is some sinus pressure too when he leans forward. His energy level is good, as is his interest in getting into anything he can get his paws on (he was allowed out of his cage while I was with him in the isolation room). I had to keep a close eye on him so he didn't scatter medical supplies all over the room. He's staying one more night, and I'll take him home tomorrow if all looks good. Next week I bring him back to get another echocardiogram to check his heart. The followup costs less than half what the first one costs, thankfully. Marsha On 12/16/2014 12:54 PM, dlg...@windstream.net wrote: ANNIE (8 YRS AND FELV) ALSO SNEEZES SOME WHEN WE HAVE THAT KIND OF WEATHER OR WHEN THE FURNACE FIRST COMES ON. SHE GETS A GOOEY EYE EVER SO OFTEN BUT NOT TOO MUCH AND NEVER HAS HAD A NASAL DISCHARGFE. i THINK HER IMMUNE SYSTEM IS JUST WEAK ENOUGH TO LET THINGS GET STARTED BUT THEN SHE OVERCOMES THEM. I JUST KEEP A CLOSE EYE ON HER SO I CAN STOP THINGS BEFORE THEY HAVE A CHANCE TO GET HER. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Harley is in the hospital
RIGHT ON HARLEY. MAKE A MESS IF YOU WANT TO, YOU HAVE EARNED THE RIGHT TO. Katherine K. kaths...@gmail.com wrote: Go Harley! On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 4:22 PM, Marsha mar...@lynxe.com wrote: Just came back from visiting with Harley. Definitely seems to be some kind of upper respiratory virus. The swelling in his larynx seems to be better, but now he has some nasal discharge. I reached for a kleenex, and the tech said, never mind, he just ate it. He is interested in food now, but it's hard for him to eat with the e-collar on, and maybe there is some sinus pressure too when he leans forward. His energy level is good, as is his interest in getting into anything he can get his paws on (he was allowed out of his cage while I was with him in the isolation room). I had to keep a close eye on him so he didn't scatter medical supplies all over the room. He's staying one more night, and I'll take him home tomorrow if all looks good. Next week I bring him back to get another echocardiogram to check his heart. The followup costs less than half what the first one costs, thankfully. Marsha On 12/16/2014 12:54 PM, dlg...@windstream.net wrote: ANNIE (8 YRS AND FELV) ALSO SNEEZES SOME WHEN WE HAVE THAT KIND OF WEATHER OR WHEN THE FURNACE FIRST COMES ON. SHE GETS A GOOEY EYE EVER SO OFTEN BUT NOT TOO MUCH AND NEVER HAS HAD A NASAL DISCHARGFE. i THINK HER IMMUNE SYSTEM IS JUST WEAK ENOUGH TO LET THINGS GET STARTED BUT THEN SHE OVERCOMES THEM. I JUST KEEP A CLOSE EYE ON HER SO I CAN STOP THINGS BEFORE THEY HAVE A CHANCE TO GET HER. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Harley is in the hospital
Marsha- Thanks for the the information you have been sharing. All is well so far with my Felv + , Bean (slayer of dragons). Good to hear what sort of symptoms start with the all to common URI with these cats. Glad to hear Harley is fighting the bug... Deb Sent from my iPad On Dec 16, 2014, at 4:35 PM, dlg...@windstream.net wrote: RIGHT ON HARLEY. MAKE A MESS IF YOU WANT TO, YOU HAVE EARNED THE RIGHT TO. Katherine K. kaths...@gmail.com wrote: Go Harley! On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 4:22 PM, Marsha mar...@lynxe.com wrote: Just came back from visiting with Harley. Definitely seems to be some kind of upper respiratory virus. The swelling in his larynx seems to be better, but now he has some nasal discharge. I reached for a kleenex, and the tech said, never mind, he just ate it. He is interested in food now, but it's hard for him to eat with the e-collar on, and maybe there is some sinus pressure too when he leans forward. His energy level is good, as is his interest in getting into anything he can get his paws on (he was allowed out of his cage while I was with him in the isolation room). I had to keep a close eye on him so he didn't scatter medical supplies all over the room. He's staying one more night, and I'll take him home tomorrow if all looks good. Next week I bring him back to get another echocardiogram to check his heart. The followup costs less than half what the first one costs, thankfully. Marsha On 12/16/2014 12:54 PM, dlg...@windstream.net wrote: ANNIE (8 YRS AND FELV) ALSO SNEEZES SOME WHEN WE HAVE THAT KIND OF WEATHER OR WHEN THE FURNACE FIRST COMES ON. SHE GETS A GOOEY EYE EVER SO OFTEN BUT NOT TOO MUCH AND NEVER HAS HAD A NASAL DISCHARGFE. i THINK HER IMMUNE SYSTEM IS JUST WEAK ENOUGH TO LET THINGS GET STARTED BUT THEN SHE OVERCOMES THEM. I JUST KEEP A CLOSE EYE ON HER SO I CAN STOP THINGS BEFORE THEY HAVE A CHANCE TO GET HER. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Harley is in the hospital
Deb, the crazy thing is that symptoms can be variable. I have been wracking my brain and talking to the vet, and one thing that looks like a possibility now is that Brock, the FeLV+ cat I adopted 2.5 months ago, may be a carrier of whatever URI virus it is. This all seemed to start (but could be coincidence) when our weather got weird here. Big temperature inversion, poor air quality, temps 20 degrees above normal, fog/mist/drizzle for a week. Brock was a little sneezy, but no other symptoms. Harley has *never* been sick before, in the 4+ years he's been with me. I am thinking maybe the odd weather threw them for a loop, and the virus flared up in Brock, and Harley got it from him. But Brock, being younger, and not as far along in immune suppression, had such mild symptoms that I didn't think it was a URI, just maybe some dust made him sneeze. But that's all just a theory. In any case, I think I better get those lysine chews or the capsules, since they wouldn't eat the gel. Don't know for sure if this is herpes virus, but could be, especially since I just read that can cause pharyngitis. And I believe that's what the lysine is supposed to help the most, is FHV. Marsha On 12/16/2014 6:31 PM, Debi Kraal wrote: Marsha- Thanks for the the information you have been sharing. All is well so far with my Felv + , Bean (slayer of dragons). Good to hear what sort of symptoms start with the all to common URI with these cats. Glad to hear Harley is fighting the bug... Deb ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Marsha- So tell me about lysine tablets for cats? Is there some indication that it helps Felv+ cats? Thanks, Deb Sent from my iPad On Dec 16, 2014, at 6:18 PM, Marsha mar...@lynxe.com wrote: Deb, the crazy thing is that symptoms can be variable. I have been wracking my brain and talking to the vet, and one thing that looks like a possibility now is that Brock, the FeLV+ cat I adopted 2.5 months ago, may be a carrier of whatever URI virus it is. This all seemed to start (but could be coincidence) when our weather got weird here. Big temperature inversion, poor air quality, temps 20 degrees above normal, fog/mist/drizzle for a week. Brock was a little sneezy, but no other symptoms. Harley has *never* been sick before, in the 4+ years he's been with me. I am thinking maybe the odd weather threw them for a loop, and the virus flared up in Brock, and Harley got it from him. But Brock, being younger, and not as far along in immune suppression, had such mild symptoms that I didn't think it was a URI, just maybe some dust made him sneeze. But that's all just a theory. In any case, I think I better get those lysine chews or the capsules, since they wouldn't eat the gel. Don't know for sure if this is herpes virus, but could be, especially since I just read that can cause pharyngitis. And I believe that's what the lysine is supposed to help the most, is FHV. Marsha On 12/16/2014 6:31 PM, Debi Kraal wrote: Marsha- Thanks for the the information you have been sharing. All is well so far with my Felv + , Bean (slayer of dragons). Good to hear what sort of symptoms start with the all to common URI with these cats. Glad to hear Harley is fighting the bug... Deb ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Harley is in the hospital
Lysine slows down the replication feline herpes virus because it competes with arginine that the virus needs. More info here on URI viruses and different treatments including lysine: http://www.2ndchance.info/vaccination-Ford2009.pdf Marsha On 12/16/2014 10:52 PM, Debi Kraal wrote: Marsha- So tell me about lysine tablets for cats? Is there some indication that it helps Felv+ cats? Thanks, Deb ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Harley is in the hospital
You and Harley will be in my thoughts, Marsha. I hope he’s doing better today. On Dec 14, 2014, at 10:02 PM, Marsha mar...@lynxe.com wrote: Harley developed this cough, where sometimes he gags or sometimes it's like a whole-body hiccup. Much of the time he crouches or sits all the way up to get more comfortable. He won't eat now, because the smell of food makes him gag, and it's uncomfortable to swallow. He does not have any nasal symptoms, and his breathing is not labored. Blood work looks pretty normal, but I do notice a downward trend in his platelet counts. Still above the danger zone, but he's had 3 tests this year, and each platelet number has been lower. Vets are thinking upper respiratory infection. He is in the hospital on IV fluid, ampicillin sulbactum for antibiotic, and has been given maropitant, sucralfate, and buprenorphine. Poor little guy is too uncomfortable to get any sleep. If he won't eat by morning, I'll talk to the Dr. about an NG tube for feeding. No fever. I am worried about some kind of tumor that might be in his esophagus, but we'd have to do some imaging for that. For now, we wait, and see if his cough gets better or worse. Marsha ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Harley is in the hospital
Harley's condition has remained the same overnight, with the addition of one episode of vomiting some froth. A critical care specialist is taking turnover from the overnight vet now, and will be discussing with me this morning what kind of imaging or tests might narrow things down. Tracheal wash was mentioned yesterday, but currently I am getting the sense this is not URI, so may not go that route. Possibly a CT scan. I don't feel that Harley would be able to swallow any kind of salve or tonic, so not an option now. Meds would have to be IV, which is only going to be something the vet hospital has and approves. Marsha On 12/14/2014 11:35 PM, dlg...@windstream.net wrote: I would say get an ultrasound at least. have they done a complete profile? I would also suggest a tonic that I have been taking since it is internal. I also use a salve for external tumors. I had perpherial t cell lymphoma. Went thru 4 courses of chemo which did nothing but try to kill me and left me getting 2 units of blood th last 4 chemos. Dr. stopped last one because it was killing me. 1 year later i went into spontaneous remission and have been there for over 8 years. I have been using the salve on an area that had 3 tumors over the bone and radiation. I lost circulationin my right foot. Started useing the salve and it hurt like hell (unlike most cancers) for a couple of days, but now I have circulation in that leg and my foot is normal, not swollen. There are many people who have used the salve and tonic for themselves and their pets and seen great results. If you like, I could put you in touch with Pat. This has never caused any side effects and as far as I am concerned is worth the pain I had for a couple of days. Dorlis ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Hope Harley gets better he is in my thoughts and prayers. Keep us updated please. Grace -Original Message- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lance Sent: 15 December 2014 14:56 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Harley is in the hospital You and Harley will be in my thoughts, Marsha. I hope he’s doing better today. On Dec 14, 2014, at 10:02 PM, Marsha mar...@lynxe.com wrote: Harley developed this cough, where sometimes he gags or sometimes it's like a whole-body hiccup. Much of the time he crouches or sits all the way up to get more comfortable. He won't eat now, because the smell of food makes him gag, and it's uncomfortable to swallow. He does not have any nasal symptoms, and his breathing is not labored. Blood work looks pretty normal, but I do notice a downward trend in his platelet counts. Still above the danger zone, but he's had 3 tests this year, and each platelet number has been lower. Vets are thinking upper respiratory infection. He is in the hospital on IV fluid, ampicillin sulbactum for antibiotic, and has been given maropitant, sucralfate, and buprenorphine. Poor little guy is too uncomfortable to get any sleep. If he won't eat by morning, I'll talk to the Dr. about an NG tube for feeding. No fever. I am worried about some kind of tumor that might be in his esophagus, but we'd have to do some imaging for that. For now, we wait, and see if his cough gets better or worse. Marsha ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I visited with Harley for a couple hours this morning. He seemed to be feeling a little better than last night. He even made biscuits, purred, and rolled over for a tummy rub. Still tired though, and not eating because of his throat. I brought him a couple of toys from home. I'm not really expecting him to play, but it's something familiar and hopefully comforting. No catnip due to concern for his airway! He had an echocardiogram early this afternoon, and then an NG tube was put in for feeding. The Dr. said his larnyx area was very swollen and inflamed, and the echo showed his heart's right ventricle is thicker than it should be. They added an antiobiotic that will cover more possibilities (zithro), like if the main issue is fungal rather than bacterial. Might be adding a steroid also, but I think that's for tomorrow. So far no obvious masses, but there is an inflammatory process going on, mainly in Harley's larnyx and bronchial area. There is still the possibility of early lymphoma, or an off chance of a heartworm. Mainly, it's wait and see for the next 24 hours. Note: The echocardiogram was recommended due to concern of an enlarged heart seen on Harley's x-ray. Marsha On 12/15/2014 1:44 PM, grace mifsud wrote: Hope Harley gets better he is in my thoughts and prayers. Keep us updated please. Grace -Original Message- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lance Sent: 15 December 2014 14:56 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Harley is in the hospital You and Harley will be in my thoughts, Marsha. I hope he’s doing better today. On Dec 14, 2014, at 10:02 PM, Marsha mar...@lynxe.com wrote: Harley developed this cough, where sometimes he gags or sometimes it's like a whole-body hiccup. Much of the time he crouches or sits all the way up to get more comfortable. He won't eat now, because the smell of food makes him gag, and it's uncomfortable to swallow. He does not have any nasal symptoms, and his breathing is not labored. Blood work looks pretty normal, but I do notice a downward trend in his platelet counts. Still above the danger zone, but he's had 3 tests this year, and each platelet number has been lower. Vets are thinking upper respiratory infection. He is in the hospital on IV fluid, ampicillin sulbactum for antibiotic, and has been given maropitant, sucralfate, and buprenorphine. Poor little guy is too uncomfortable to get any sleep. If he won't eat by morning, I'll talk to the Dr. about an NG tube for feeding. No fever. I am worried about some kind of tumor that might be in his esophagus, but we'd have to do some imaging for that. For now, we wait, and see if his cough gets better or worse. Marsha ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Glad to hear Harley is purring and affectionate. I take that as a good sign. I hadn’t heard of ECGs for cats, but it makes sense. It’s a good non-invasive test for heart concerns. Sounds like that’s not the issue, though. I hope Harley is even more improved tomorrow. Lance On Dec 15, 2014, at 3:47 PM, Marsha mar...@lynxe.com wrote: I visited with Harley for a couple hours this morning. He seemed to be feeling a little better than last night. He even made biscuits, purred, and rolled over for a tummy rub. Still tired though, and not eating because of his throat. I brought him a couple of toys from home. I'm not really expecting him to play, but it's something familiar and hopefully comforting. No catnip due to concern for his airway! He had an echocardiogram early this afternoon, and then an NG tube was put in for feeding. The Dr. said his larnyx area was very swollen and inflamed, and the echo showed his heart's right ventricle is thicker than it should be. They added an antiobiotic that will cover more possibilities (zithro), like if the main issue is fungal rather than bacterial. Might be adding a steroid also, but I think that's for tomorrow. So far no obvious masses, but there is an inflammatory process going on, mainly in Harley's larnyx and bronchial area. There is still the possibility of early lymphoma, or an off chance of a heartworm. Mainly, it's wait and see for the next 24 hours. Note: The echocardiogram was recommended due to concern of an enlarged heart seen on Harley's x-ray. Marsha ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I've had echocardiograms (or cardiac ultrasound, if you prefer) on 2 cats before due to cardiomyopathy. One that had cardiomyopathy (caused by undiagnosed hyperthyroidism), and then another to check the heart *after* they were diagnosed with hyperthyroidism. The Dr. said it was unusual for the right ventricle to be thickened, so first they checked for pulmonary hypertension - all clear there. Still, something has caused it, so that will be looked at more after the infection/swelling has subsided and Harley is eating on his own again. Just hope that this doesn't turn out to be one of the many ways that lymphoma can rear its ugly head. Marsha On 12/15/2014 3:57 PM, Lance wrote: I hadn’t heard of ECGs for cats, but it makes sense. It’s a good non-invasive test for heart concerns. Sounds like that’s not the issue, though. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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IF YOU LOVE YOUR HARLEY LIKE I LOVE MINE, I KNOW HOW YOU FEEL RIGHT NOW. WILL KEEP HIM IN MY PRAYERS AND YOU TOO. grace mifsud simo...@onvol.net wrote: Hope Harley gets better he is in my thoughts and prayers. Keep us updated please. Grace -Original Message- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lance Sent: 15 December 2014 14:56 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Harley is in the hospital You and Harley will be in my thoughts, Marsha. I hope he’s doing better today. On Dec 14, 2014, at 10:02 PM, Marsha mar...@lynxe.com wrote: Harley developed this cough, where sometimes he gags or sometimes it's like a whole-body hiccup. Much of the time he crouches or sits all the way up to get more comfortable. He won't eat now, because the smell of food makes him gag, and it's uncomfortable to swallow. He does not have any nasal symptoms, and his breathing is not labored. Blood work looks pretty normal, but I do notice a downward trend in his platelet counts. Still above the danger zone, but he's had 3 tests this year, and each platelet number has been lower. Vets are thinking upper respiratory infection. He is in the hospital on IV fluid, ampicillin sulbactum for antibiotic, and has been given maropitant, sucralfate, and buprenorphine. Poor little guy is too uncomfortable to get any sleep. If he won't eat by morning, I'll talk to the Dr. about an NG tube for feeding. No fever. I am worried about some kind of tumor that might be in his esophagus, but we'd have to do some imaging for that. For now, we wait, and see if his cough gets better or worse. Marsha ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Harley is in the hospital
DOESN'T SSOUND LIKE ANY SYMPTOMS I HAD WHEN I HAD IT. I HAD 2 DIFFERENT KINDS ONE IN LUNGS AND ONE LIKE MARBLES UNDER MY SKIN ALL OVER FROM HEAD TO TOE. Marsha mar...@lynxe.com wrote: I've had echocardiograms (or cardiac ultrasound, if you prefer) on 2 cats before due to cardiomyopathy. One that had cardiomyopathy (caused by undiagnosed hyperthyroidism), and then another to check the heart *after* they were diagnosed with hyperthyroidism. The Dr. said it was unusual for the right ventricle to be thickened, so first they checked for pulmonary hypertension - all clear there. Still, something has caused it, so that will be looked at more after the infection/swelling has subsided and Harley is eating on his own again. Just hope that this doesn't turn out to be one of the many ways that lymphoma can rear its ugly head. Marsha On 12/15/2014 3:57 PM, Lance wrote: I hadn’t heard of ECGs for cats, but it makes sense. It’s a good non-invasive test for heart concerns. Sounds like that’s not the issue, though. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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YOU MENTIONED FUNGAL, HOW WOULD HE HAVE GOTTEN INTO FUNGUS. DOES HE GO AOUTSID3E? Lance lini...@fastmail.fm wrote: Glad to hear Harley is purring and affectionate. I take that as a good sign. I hadn’t heard of ECGs for cats, but it makes sense. It’s a good non-invasive test for heart concerns. Sounds like that’s not the issue, though. I hope Harley is even more improved tomorrow. Lance On Dec 15, 2014, at 3:47 PM, Marsha mar...@lynxe.com wrote: I visited with Harley for a couple hours this morning. He seemed to be feeling a little better than last night. He even made biscuits, purred, and rolled over for a tummy rub. Still tired though, and not eating because of his throat. I brought him a couple of toys from home. I'm not really expecting him to play, but it's something familiar and hopefully comforting. No catnip due to concern for his airway! He had an echocardiogram early this afternoon, and then an NG tube was put in for feeding. The Dr. said his larnyx area was very swollen and inflamed, and the echo showed his heart's right ventricle is thicker than it should be. They added an antiobiotic that will cover more possibilities (zithro), like if the main issue is fungal rather than bacterial. Might be adding a steroid also, but I think that's for tomorrow. So far no obvious masses, but there is an inflammatory process going on, mainly in Harley's larnyx and bronchial area. There is still the possibility of early lymphoma, or an off chance of a heartworm. Mainly, it's wait and see for the next 24 hours. Note: The echocardiogram was recommended due to concern of an enlarged heart seen on Harley's x-ray. Marsha ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Harley is in the hospital
Do you mean lymphoma? Lymphocytes where it starts can be most anywhere in the body, so there can be different symptoms. I have had 3 cats that had lymphoma. 1 was FeLV+, the other 2 were negative. I even had the negative ones tested for FeLV after they were diagnosed with lymphoma, just because it is such a common outcome among FeLV+ cats. Marsha On 12/15/2014 6:34 PM, dlg...@windstream.net wrote: DOESN'T SSOUND LIKE ANY SYMPTOMS I HAD WHEN I HAD IT. I HAD 2 DIFFERENT KINDS ONE IN LUNGS AND ONE LIKE MARBLES UNDER MY SKIN ALL OVER FROM HEAD TO TOE. Marsha mar...@lynxe.com wrote: I've had echocardiograms (or cardiac ultrasound, if you prefer) on 2 cats before due to cardiomyopathy. One that had cardiomyopathy (caused by undiagnosed hyperthyroidism), and then another to check the heart *after* they were diagnosed with hyperthyroidism. The Dr. said it was unusual for the right ventricle to be thickened, so first they checked for pulmonary hypertension - all clear there. Still, something has caused it, so that will be looked at more after the infection/swelling has subsided and Harley is eating on his own again. Just hope that this doesn't turn out to be one of the many ways that lymphoma can rear its ugly head. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Harley is in the hospital
No, he doesn't go outside, but I am now worried that the bag of DRY leaves I brought them to play in, might have been a potential source of spores. We have also had unseasonably warm weather plus a week of fog/mist/drizzle, big temperature inversion that caused air quality alerts. There is outside air that comes in through the soffit and rafters. But my other FeLV+ cat is fine, though he did sneeze a bit yesterday. No discharge from his nose, his appetite is fine. But he is a little younger than Harley, so maybe the FeLV hasn't done as much damage to his immune cells yet. The occasional mouse gets inside (I live in the country) too, and Harley is quite good at catching them. I sometimes give him wormer or Frontline Plus, because of that. Marshazas Sorry, Oona just stepped on the keyboard. She is FeLV negative, guess she thinks the positive boys have been taking too much attention away from her. ;-) On 12/15/2014 6:37 PM, dlg...@windstream.net wrote: YOU MENTIONED FUNGAL, HOW WOULD HE HAVE GOTTEN INTO FUNGUS. DOES HE GO AOUTSID3E? Lance lini...@fastmail.fm wrote: ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Harley is in the hospital
Harley developed this cough, where sometimes he gags or sometimes it's like a whole-body hiccup. Much of the time he crouches or sits all the way up to get more comfortable. He won't eat now, because the smell of food makes him gag, and it's uncomfortable to swallow. He does not have any nasal symptoms, and his breathing is not labored. Blood work looks pretty normal, but I do notice a downward trend in his platelet counts. Still above the danger zone, but he's had 3 tests this year, and each platelet number has been lower. Vets are thinking upper respiratory infection. He is in the hospital on IV fluid, ampicillin sulbactum for antibiotic, and has been given maropitant, sucralfate, and buprenorphine. Poor little guy is too uncomfortable to get any sleep. If he won't eat by morning, I'll talk to the Dr. about an NG tube for feeding. No fever. I am worried about some kind of tumor that might be in his esophagus, but we'd have to do some imaging for that. For now, we wait, and see if his cough gets better or worse. Marsha ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I would say get an ultrasound at least. have they done a complete profile? I would also suggest a tonic that I have been taking since it is internal. I also use a salve for external tumors. I had perpherial t cell lymphoma. Went thru 4 courses of chemo which did nothing but try to kill me and left me getting 2 units of blood th last 4 chemos. Dr. stopped last one because it was killing me. 1 year later i went into spontaneous remission and have been there for over 8 years. I have been using the salve on an area that had 3 tumors over the bone and radiation. I lost circulationin my right foot. Started useing the salve and it hurt like hell (unlike most cancers) for a couple of days, but now I have circulation in that leg and my foot is normal, not swollen. There are many people who have used the salve and tonic for themselves and their pets and seen great results. If you like, I could put you in touch with Pat. This has never caused any side effects and as far as I am concerned is worth the pain I had for a couple of days. Dorlis Marsha mar...@lynxe.com wrote: Harley developed this cough, where sometimes he gags or sometimes it's like a whole-body hiccup. Much of the time he crouches or sits all the way up to get more comfortable. He won't eat now, because the smell of food makes him gag, and it's uncomfortable to swallow. He does not have any nasal symptoms, and his breathing is not labored. Blood work looks pretty normal, but I do notice a downward trend in his platelet counts. Still above the danger zone, but he's had 3 tests this year, and each platelet number has been lower. Vets are thinking upper respiratory infection. He is in the hospital on IV fluid, ampicillin sulbactum for antibiotic, and has been given maropitant, sucralfate, and buprenorphine. Poor little guy is too uncomfortable to get any sleep. If he won't eat by morning, I'll talk to the Dr. about an NG tube for feeding. No fever. I am worried about some kind of tumor that might be in his esophagus, but we'd have to do some imaging for that. For now, we wait, and see if his cough gets better or worse. Marsha ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
