Re: [Felvtalk] Help - I can't get LTCI in Georgia!
If you can find a vet to do it, I'd try the vitamin C therapy in a New York Minute. I've never used Acemannan, but have read a lot about it and it sounds good too. When I checked into it a few years ago, it was hard for me to get. Course you'd have to find a competent vet willing to do that too. Good luck! Gloria On Dec 16, 2009, at 8:10 PM, LauraM wrote: My vet spoke with several people at whatever state department deals with drugs and so on, and apparently nobody can get LTCI, even the clinics who'd been previously using it. It is so, so frustrating (especially since I just refinanced and so - for once - I actually have some money!). Since I'm so close to Alabama, going out of state might be my best bet. In the meantime, the vitamin C therapy sounds interesting and so does acemannan. I'm still hopeful! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Help - I can't get LTCI in Georgia!
I agree with Gloria. LTCI, Acemannan, etc. are more for immune and symptom support in the absence of trying anything more curative, while the sodium ascorbate (vitamin C) used intravenously has the power to permanently destroy viruses and is not just administered for immune support, though it is also a powerful immune enhancer as well. Again, for info on how vitamin C accomplishes destruction of a virus see Klenner's Clinical Guide to the Use of Vitamin C, http://www.seanet.com/~alexs/ascorbate/198x/smith-lh-clinica l_guide_1988.htm. It is important to work with a vet in the implementation of this therapy to make sure that the amounts of vitamin C and fluid used and the rate with which they are administered are appropriate for the size of the cat because while this therapy is considered extremely safe, nothing is ever inert and one should always err on the side of caution. My vet has indicated a willingness to consult with other vets about the protocol should it be necessary. I can also share the protocol but would never advocate attempting the drips outside of the supervision of a vet. Sally Snyder Jewell Tower Laboratories Corporation Manufacturers of Pauling Therapy Formulas for Coronary Heart Disease Since 1996 http://www.HeartTech.com E-mail: sa...@towerlaboratories.com Toll Free: 1-877-TOWER-LABS (1-877.869.3752) Voice: 502.368.2720; 502.368.2721 Fax: 502.368.0019 Pauling Therapy Information Web site: http://www.HeartTech.com Pauling Therapy Order Link: http://www.PaulingTherapyStore.com The products manufactured by Tower Laboratories Corporation, Inc. are not intended to diagnose, treat, cure or prevent disease in the United States. Without prejudice to the generality of the contents herein, this message is not meant nor intended to diagnose, treat, or otherwise mitigate any health related condition. This message does not attach any legal liability onto the originator thereof. This communication may also contain information which is confidential, and therefore privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you have received this message by error, please delete the email and destroy any copies of it. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk- boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Gloria B. Lane Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 11:29 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Help - I can't get LTCI in Georgia! If you can find a vet to do it, I'd try the vitamin C therapy in a New York Minute. I've never used Acemannan, but have read a lot about it and it sounds good too. When I checked into it a few years ago, it was hard for me to get. Course you'd have to find a competent vet willing to do that too. Good luck! Gloria On Dec 16, 2009, at 8:10 PM, LauraM wrote: My vet spoke with several people at whatever state department deals with drugs and so on, and apparently nobody can get LTCI, even the clinics who'd been previously using it. It is so, so frustrating (especially since I just refinanced and so - for once - I actually have some money!). Since I'm so close to Alabama, going out of state might be my best bet. In the meantime, the vitamin C therapy sounds interesting and so does acemannan. I'm still hopeful! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felinele ukemia.o rg ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felinele ukemia.o rg ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Help - I can't get LTCI in Georgia!
I agree with Gloria. LTCI, Acemannan, etc. are more for immune and symptom support in the absence of trying anything more curative, while the sodium ascorbate (vitamin C) used intravenously has the power to permanently destroy viruses and is not just administered for immune support, though it is also a powerful immune enhancer as well. Again, for info on how vitamin C accomplishes destruction of a virus see Klenner's Clinical Guide to the Use of Vitamin C, http://www.seanet.com/~alexs/ascorbate/198x/smith-lh-clinica l_guide_1988.htm. It is important to work with a vet in the implementation of this therapy to make sure that the amounts of vitamin C and fluid used and the rate with which they are administered are appropriate for the size of the cat because while this therapy is considered extremely safe, nothing is ever inert and one should always err on the side of caution. My vet has indicated a willingness to consult with other vets about the protocol should it be necessary. I can also share the protocol but would never advocate attempting the drips outside of the supervision of a vet. Sally Snyder Jewell Tower Laboratories Corporation Manufacturers of Pauling Therapy Formulas for Coronary Heart Disease Since 1996 http://www.HeartTech.com E-mail: sa...@towerlaboratories.com Toll Free: 1-877-TOWER-LABS (1-877.869.3752) Voice: 502.368.2720; 502.368.2721 Fax: 502.368.0019 Pauling Therapy Information Web site: http://www.HeartTech.com Pauling Therapy Order Link: http://www.PaulingTherapyStore.com The products manufactured by Tower Laboratories Corporation, Inc. are not intended to diagnose, treat, cure or prevent disease in the United States. Without prejudice to the generality of the contents herein, this message is not meant nor intended to diagnose, treat, or otherwise mitigate any health related condition. This message does not attach any legal liability onto the originator thereof. This communication may also contain information which is confidential, and therefore privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you have received this message by error, please delete the email and destroy any copies of it. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk- boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Gloria B. Lane Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 11:29 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Help - I can't get LTCI in Georgia! If you can find a vet to do it, I'd try the vitamin C therapy in a New York Minute. I've never used Acemannan, but have read a lot about it and it sounds good too. When I checked into it a few years ago, it was hard for me to get. Course you'd have to find a competent vet willing to do that too. Good luck! Gloria On Dec 16, 2009, at 8:10 PM, LauraM wrote: My vet spoke with several people at whatever state department deals with drugs and so on, and apparently nobody can get LTCI, even the clinics who'd been previously using it. It is so, so frustrating (especially since I just refinanced and so - for once - I actually have some money!). Since I'm so close to Alabama, going out of state might be my best bet. In the meantime, the vitamin C therapy sounds interesting and so does acemannan. I'm still hopeful! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felinele ukemia.o rg ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felinele ukemia.o rg ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Help - I can't get LTCI in Georgia!
Acemannan is now easy enough to get, but must come through a vet. They just had a $64 price increase and I paid $228 for the package of four 10 mg bottles and that doesn't last long if you have a large cat. Sometimes they have specials on it from the distributors, got my first package on special for $125 and had a bit of sticker shock at the new price. Ordered the stuff for the Vitamin C IV therapy and will be trying it on a positive with a large lymphoma. The tumor is in his chest and is quite large, so don't know how well this will go, but not much in the way of alternatives. Gary Gloria B. Lane wrote: If you can find a vet to do it, I'd try the vitamin C therapy in a New York Minute. I've never used Acemannan, but have read a lot about it and it sounds good too. When I checked into it a few years ago, it was hard for me to get. Course you'd have to find a competent vet willing to do that too. Good luck! Gloria ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Help - I can't get LTCI in Georgia!
Laura, I am sorry to hear about your situation. To be honest, I would probably contact a vet out of state, pick up the injections and do it myself. They are simply subcutaneous injections that can be easily given. If you are near a state border, I would drive and personally pick it up myself. Imulan can give you the name of vets in a particular area that have or have used to drug. If you are having difficulty with this, let me know where you are and I can contact them. Then contact the vet and ask if you could simply pick up the medication. I did this. It took a little talking and open communication between vets, but in the end wasn't all that difficult. You can get a three or ten pack, bring it home (kept in the fridge, in the dark) and do the injections as needed. (weekly and first, then biweekly then monthly) You don't have to go to the vet every time. Then simply bring him to your vet to check a CBC (completely blood count) and intermittently a BMP (basic metabolic panel) and follow his response. Other options include acemannan (an injection into the abdominal cavity - more difficult injection) or ambotrose (similar to acemannan but oral - can be ordered from Mannatech corp) or interferon (you haven't had much luck I guess), or you could try Vitamin C (as has been the hot topic recently). Personally, I have an FIV cat that I am planning on trying this on. I want to see if it is possible to reverse his FIV status to negative with it. I will let you know. Good luck and may God bless you. Jenny On 12/10/09, LauraM hingebacktorto...@yahoo.com wrote: As some of you may have read in my post from last week, my vet and I had planned to start Bridget on LTCI. Unfortunately, when my vet tried to order it, there was a problem. For some reason, the GA state vet isn't allowing the drug into the state at this time, for anybody - some legal issue. So.what are my options? I was excited hopeful about the possibilities of this drug now Bridget can't have it. What other therapies can you folks recommend? I've used interferon with two cats with no success. Bridget is currently asymptomatic, but I would like to try something, anything, to buy her as much time as possible. I'd appreciate any suggestions. Thanks. Laura ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Help - I can't get LTCI in Georgia!
Sorry to tag on to this most recent message, but don't have time at the moment to get to a direct reply to Laura. Was just on the LTCI Now portion of Immulan's website, and they list doctors/vet clinics that are using the therapy. One of them is the Greater Atlanta Veterinary Medical Group (in Georgia, yes?), and Dr. Jory W. Olsen is listed as the specific vet using the therapy. It certainly might be worth a call to this facility to start a conversation between Dr. Olsen and your local vet in GA. Of course, once can't believe everything read on the web, but it's a good indication that someone in Georgia is able to get the drug. I also read that LTCI is becoming so popular that it is now on back-order. If we're thinking we will be needing doses fairly soon, it would be good to get the orders in well ahead of time. Sara -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of jbero tds.net Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 11:42 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Help - I can't get LTCI in Georgia! Laura, I am sorry to hear about your situation. To be honest, I would probably contact a vet out of state, pick up the injections and do it myself. They are simply subcutaneous injections that can be easily given. If you are near a state border, I would drive and personally pick it up myself. Imulan can give you the name of vets in a particular area that have or have used to drug. If you are having difficulty with this, let me know where you are and I can contact them. Then contact the vet and ask if you could simply pick up the medication. I did this. It took a little talking and open communication between vets, but in the end wasn't all that difficult. You can get a three or ten pack, bring it home (kept in the fridge, in the dark) and do the injections as needed. (weekly and first, then biweekly then monthly) You don't have to go to the vet every time. Then simply bring him to your vet to check a CBC (completely blood count) and intermittently a BMP (basic metabolic panel) and follow his response. Other options include acemannan (an injection into the abdominal cavity - more difficult injection) or ambotrose (similar to acemannan but oral - can be ordered from Mannatech corp) or interferon (you haven't had much luck I guess), or you could try Vitamin C (as has been the hot topic recently). Personally, I have an FIV cat that I am planning on trying this on. I want to see if it is possible to reverse his FIV status to negative with it. I will let you know. Good luck and may God bless you. Jenny On 12/10/09, LauraM hingebacktorto...@yahoo.com wrote: As some of you may have read in my post from last week, my vet and I had planned to start Bridget on LTCI. Unfortunately, when my vet tried to order it, there was a problem. For some reason, the GA state vet isn't allowing the drug into the state at this time, for anybody - some legal issue. So.what are my options? I was excited hopeful about the possibilities of this drug now Bridget can't have it. What other therapies can you folks recommend? I've used interferon with two cats with no success. Bridget is currently asymptomatic, but I would like to try something, anything, to buy her as much time as possible. I'd appreciate any suggestions. Thanks. Laura ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org __ NOD32 4694 (20091216) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Help - I can't get LTCI in Georgia!
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Re: [Felvtalk] Help - I can't get LTCI in Georgia!
My vet spoke with several people at whatever state department deals with drugs and so on, and apparently nobody can get LTCI, even the clinics who'd been previously using it. It is so, so frustrating (especially since I just refinanced and so - for once - I actually have some money!). Since I'm so close to Alabama, going out of state might be my best bet. In the meantime, the vitamin C therapy sounds interesting and so does acemannan. I'm still hopeful! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Help - I can't get LTCI in Georgia!
have you brrn able to find out why it is not allowed in the state? is it just a political thing or a medical reason? i will check with my vet and see if he can come up with an answer. dorlis LauraM hingebacktorto...@yahoo.com wrote: As some of you may have read in my post from last week, my vet and I had planned to start Bridget on LTCI. Unfortunately, when my vet tried to order it, there was a problem. For some reason, the GA state vet isn't allowing the drug into the state at this time, for anybody - some legal issue. So.what are my options? I was excited hopeful about the possibilities of this drug now Bridget can't have it. What other therapies can you folks recommend? I've used interferon with two cats with no success. Bridget is currently asymptomatic, but I would like to try something, anything, to buy her as much time as possible. I'd appreciate any suggestions. Thanks. Laura ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Help - I can't get LTCI in Georgia!
am forwarding this to my vet. he is open minded and could use this for other patients. i have a couple who get respiratory infections off and on and want to try this for them. it certainly is easier on them than antibiotics. dorlis Tower Laboratories Corporation sa...@towerlaboratories.com wrote: Happy to help, Gloria. If you need any information at all about the protocol, please keep my numbers (below) and call me any time. You may have guessed by now that I am very passionate about this and beyond anxious to start seeing pet owners trying this safe and effective protocol for their own sick cats. I hope to have a Web site with more information online soon. In the meantime, I can't tell you enough how important it is to read Dr. Fred Klenner's Clinical Guide to the Use of Vitamin C (full text available online at http://www.seanet.com/~alexs/ascorbate/198x/smith-lh-clinica l_guide_1988.htm), and Dr. Wendell Belfield's paper Megascorbic Prophylaxis and Megascorbic Therapy: A New Orthomolecular Modality in Veterinary Medicine (full text available online at http://www.seanet.com/~alexs/ascorbate/197x/belfield-w-j_int _assn_prev_med-1978-v2-n3-p10.htm). I have seen IV vitamin C work a miracle for three of my cats with lymphoma, upper respiratory and recently FIP, and though far from an expert on the subject, I am certainly an expert at trying. :-) Sally Snyder Jewell Tower Laboratories Corporation Manufacturers of Pauling Therapy Formulas for Coronary Heart Disease Since 1996 http://www.HeartTech.com E-mail: sa...@towerlaboratories.com Toll Free: 1-877-TOWER-LABS (1-877.869.3752) Voice: 502.368.2720; 502.368.2721 Fax: 502.368.0019 Pauling Therapy Information Web site: http://www.HeartTech.com Pauling Therapy Order Link: http://www.PaulingTherapyStore.com The products manufactured by Tower Laboratories Corporation, Inc. are not intended to diagnose, treat, cure or prevent disease in the United States. Without prejudice to the generality of the contents herein, this message is not meant nor intended to diagnose, treat, or otherwise mitigate any health related condition. This message does not attach any legal liability onto the originator thereof. This communication may also contain information which is confidential, and therefore privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you have received this message by error, please delete the email and destroy any copies of it. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk- boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Gloria B. Lane Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 1:34 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Help - I can't get LTCI in Georgia! Thanks again, Sally. I'm a great believer in vitamin C, have taken megadoses of it myself with good results. I haven't used it methodically in cats like you have, although I have used Belfield's Vitamin C. When I get another cat with early FIP or FELV like you're talking about, I'll see about finding a vet who'll do an IV drip - wish I'd done it with some of my cats who've now passed on. Gloria in Arkansas On Dec 11, 2009, at 10:44 AM, S. Jewell wrote: Gary, I used the Mega C Plus on a feral FeLV cat for six months but ultimately he did not seroconvert because it was already in his bone marrow. Had I the opportunity to start megadoses of oral vitamin C at the beginning stages of his virus he would likely still be alive, because like taking C for the common cold, timing is key in stopping the progression of viruses. Ascorbic acid is critical for prevention and optimal health in cats and dogs, but it is nearly impossible to get enough of it into a cat orally to eradicate an aggressive, life-threatening virus once well-established. Cats and dogs make very little vitamin C in the liver compared to most animals, hence the reason they succumb to these diseases. I talked with Wendell Belfield, DVM about his use of this protocol and he confirmed that if the infection/disease/virus is too advanced a more aggressive approach is necessary through sub-Q or IM injections or intravenous infusions. Though an excellent formula, his oral Mega-C Plus contains iron, which can limit the amount than can be used therapeutically. Otherwise, there is no toxic limit for pure ascorbic acid and the more you can get into the cat up to bowel tolerance, the more beneficial. When the body is under stress (animal or human) and fighting illness, more vitamin C is tolerated and necessary to eradicate the disease/virus. The myths about kidney stones, peeing expensive urine, etc., are just that - myths, propagated by those who would stand to lose huge money were ascorbic acid widely accepted and used for eradicating
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It sure is!! We don't live to far from American River College. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 11, 2009, at 5:34 PM, Alice Flowers aliceflow...@sbcglobal.net wrote: OK-I didn't realize that we are in the same area!! How crazy is that? I live in Rio Linda (Sacramento County) with my kitties, horses and antique Aussies (all over 10 yrs old). Citrus Heights is within 15-20 minutes away. Small World! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Very nice summary, Gary, thanks - Gloria On Dec 11, 2009, at 1:34 AM, Gary wrote: How odd. Has your vet spoken to Imulan about this problem? There isn't anything I know for sure that helps a lot other than a good diet and low stress. There are many things that people use with varying success. I just started using Acemannan and had success turning to FeLV positive anemic kittens into what appears to be pretty healthy positive cats. You already know about Interferon. Best Friends uses Immuno Regulin (now available as EqStim) .5 ml sub-q once a month on their positives. I have used Moducare and there is Transfer Factor and several others. There is oral vitamin C using Mega C. Does anything work all the time on every cat? I doubt it and we may be throwing our money away most of the time, who knows? Dr. Belfield claims he cured every positive cat that came through his practice of 30 years with his Mega C. My cats don't seem to like it so I haven't figured out how to dose them with enough to experiment with that. Gary LauraM wrote: As some of you may have read in my post from last week, my vet and I had planned to start Bridget on LTCI. Unfortunately, when my vet tried to order it, there was a problem. For some reason, the GA state vet isn't allowing the drug into the state at this time, for anybody - some legal issue. So.what are my options? I was excited hopeful about the possibilities of this drug now Bridget can't have it. What other therapies can you folks recommend? I've used interferon with two cats with no success. Bridget is currently asymptomatic, but I would like to try something, anything, to buy her as much time as possible. I'd appreciate any suggestions. Thanks. Laura ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Help - I can't get LTCI in Georgia!
Gary, I used the Mega C Plus on a feral FeLV cat for six months but ultimately he did not seroconvert because it was already in his bone marrow. Had I the opportunity to start megadoses of oral vitamin C at the beginning stages of his virus he would likely still be alive, because like taking C for the common cold, timing is key in stopping the progression of viruses. Ascorbic acid is critical for prevention and optimal health in cats and dogs, but it is nearly impossible to get enough of it into a cat orally to eradicate an aggressive, life-threatening virus once well-established. Cats and dogs make very little vitamin C in the liver compared to most animals, hence the reason they succumb to these diseases. I talked with Wendell Belfield, DVM about his use of this protocol and he confirmed that if the infection/disease/virus is too advanced a more aggressive approach is necessary through sub-Q or IM injections or intravenous infusions. Though an excellent formula, his oral Mega-C Plus contains iron, which can limit the amount than can be used therapeutically. Otherwise, there is no toxic limit for pure ascorbic acid and the more you can get into the cat up to bowel tolerance, the more beneficial. When the body is under stress (animal or human) and fighting illness, more vitamin C is tolerated and necessary to eradicate the disease/virus. The myths about kidney stones, peeing expensive urine, etc., are just that - myths, propagated by those who would stand to lose huge money were ascorbic acid widely accepted and used for eradicating disease. Vitamin C has been known to fight 30 major diseases for over 50 years, and as Wendell Belfield DVM knew well and practiced from the 1960s on, it also cures cat and dog viruses, infection and disease. Giving high doses of sodium ascorbate intravenously to an FeLV cat in the early stages of the disease should permanently eradicate the FeLV virus as it did with FIP in my kitten, and in fact, ANY virus. I am preparing to do just such a trial on the next newly diagnosed FeLV kitten that comes into my care. The key is catching it early and administering enough to permanently destroy the virus. With my two FIP kittens, Chuckie was the first to become symptomatic. We administered IV sodium ascorbate (vitamin C) at 1 gram per pound of body weight (5,000 mg daily) for five days. We stopped the drips when he appeared better, though he soon took a nose dive and by the time my vet opened again he was too far gone from a neurological standpoint. The virus had not been totally eradicated in those five days at that low dose, and when the C was stopped the virus replicated and killed him. When his sister Angelica began to manifest with the same chronic high fevers, weight loss, lack of appetite, and transient neurologic symptoms, a passage in Klenner's Clinical Guide to the Use of Vitamin C grabbed my attention, to wit: . . . failure to benefit from Vitamin C use is usually due to inadequate amounts being used for too short a period of time. Newly armed with this information, we doubled Angelica's IV C to 2g per pound of body weight so that she was getting 10g daily. We continued the drips daily and on day 7 her 105 fever came down. We continued for 4 more days to make sure the virus was killed and we didn't have a repeat situation as with poor Chuckie. Her fevers remained down through day 11 and then we tapered her off of the C and gave it orally to avoid rebound scurvy. It has been 3 weeks and she is eating well, gaining weight, and totally asymptomatic. Needless to say, she now gets C in her food every day. The difference between the two treatment scenarios is that Chuckie received too many immune-destroying antibiotics and steroids before his official FIP diagnosis returned and by the time we started the IV C drips he was terribly compromised, though he probably would have survived had I only realized that we were administering too little vitamin C for too short a time. When Angelica became sick I went straight to the IV vitamin C as my first line of defense and apparently that, and the proper dosage amount and administration length, were the keys to curing her. I hope this helps some of you. I posted much of this information before but it seemed to be dismissed a priori with few appearing to consider it legitimate or worthy of greater investigation. This is sad, because while everyone continues to talk of what to do for these poor FeLV, FIV, FIP and other sick cats, with a little effort this treatment is available, safe, effective, and inexpensive compared with the typical outlay for these diseases. Is it not worth trying for these cats before accepting that there is no viable cure? Personally, I would much prefer to attempt this protocol to eradicate a virus than to simply treat a cat's immune system just to give it a few extra months before the virus kills it anyway. It's really a no-brainer. You will do your vet a favor by asking
Re: [Felvtalk] Help - I can't get LTCI in Georgia!
Gary, I used the Mega C Plus on a feral FeLV cat for six months but ultimately he did not seroconvert because it was already in his bone marrow. Had I the opportunity to start megadoses of oral vitamin C at the beginning stages of his virus he would likely still be alive, because like taking C for the common cold, timing is key in stopping the progression of viruses. Ascorbic acid is critical for prevention and optimal health in cats and dogs, but it is nearly impossible to get enough of it into a cat orally to eradicate an aggressive, life-threatening virus once well-established. Cats and dogs make very little vitamin C in the liver compared to most animals, hence the reason they succumb to these diseases. I talked with Wendell Belfield, DVM about his use of this protocol and he confirmed that if the infection/disease/virus is too advanced a more aggressive approach is necessary through sub-Q or IM injections or intravenous infusions. Though an excellent formula, his oral Mega-C Plus contains iron, which can limit the amount than can be used therapeutically. Otherwise, there is no toxic limit for pure ascorbic acid and the more you can get into the cat up to bowel tolerance, the more beneficial. When the body is under stress (animal or human) and fighting illness, more vitamin C is tolerated and necessary to eradicate the disease/virus. The myths about kidney stones, peeing expensive urine, etc., are just that - myths, propagated by those who would stand to lose huge money were ascorbic acid widely accepted and used for eradicating disease. Vitamin C has been known to fight 30 major diseases for over 50 years, and as Wendell Belfield DVM knew well and practiced from the 1960s on, it also cures cat and dog viruses, infection and disease. Giving high doses of sodium ascorbate intravenously to an FeLV cat in the early stages of the disease should permanently eradicate the FeLV virus as it did with FIP in my kitten, and in fact, ANY virus. I am preparing to do just such a trial on the next newly diagnosed FeLV kitten that comes into my care. The key is catching it early and administering enough to permanently destroy the virus. With my two FIP kittens, Chuckie was the first to become symptomatic. We administered IV sodium ascorbate (vitamin C) at 1 gram per pound of body weight (5,000 mg daily) for five days. We stopped the drips when he appeared better, though he soon took a nose dive and by the time my vet opened again he was too far gone from a neurological standpoint. The virus had not been totally eradicated in those five days at that low dose, and when the C was stopped the virus replicated and killed him. When his sister Angelica began to manifest with the same chronic high fevers, weight loss, lack of appetite, and transient neurologic symptoms, a passage in Klenner's Clinical Guide to the Use of Vitamin C grabbed my attention, to wit: . . . failure to benefit from Vitamin C use is usually due to inadequate amounts being used for too short a period of time. Newly armed with this information, we doubled Angelica's IV C to 2g per pound of body weight so that she was getting 10g daily. We continued the drips daily and on day 7 her 105 fever came down. We continued for 4 more days to make sure the virus was killed and we didn't have a repeat situation as with poor Chuckie. Her fevers remained down through day 11 and then we tapered her off of the C and gave it orally to avoid rebound scurvy. It has been 3 weeks and she is eating well, gaining weight, and totally asymptomatic. Needless to say, she now gets C in her food every day. The difference between the two treatment scenarios is that Chuckie received too many immune-destroying antibiotics and steroids before his official FIP diagnosis returned and by the time we started the IV C drips he was terribly compromised, though he probably would have survived had I only realized that we were administering too little vitamin C for too short a time. When Angelica became sick I went straight to the IV vitamin C as my first line of defense and apparently that, and the proper dosage amount and administration length, were the keys to curing her. I hope this helps some of you. I posted much of this information before but it seemed to be dismissed a priori with few appearing to consider it legitimate or worthy of greater investigation. This is sad, because while everyone continues to talk of what to do for these poor FeLV, FIV, FIP and other sick cats, with a little effort this treatment is available, safe, effective, and inexpensive compared with the typical outlay for these diseases. Is it not worth trying for these cats before accepting that there is no viable cure? Personally, I would much prefer to attempt this protocol to eradicate a virus than to simply treat a cat's immune system just to give it a few extra months before the virus kills it anyway. It's really a no-brainer. You will do your vet a favor by asking
Re: [Felvtalk] Help - I can't get LTCI in Georgia!
I am shocked that your vet cannot order it. It's not even a drug per se. Perhaps your vet can contact another vet that can order it? My vet is the Sacramento Cat Hospital and if you google it, they have a website with all their contact info. As I type this, Rosie has Murphy in a headlock and is trying to bite his eyehe has these huge persian-like eyeballs and fluffy hair-she is a sleek tabby from a feral colony and loves to terrorize him these days even though she's half his size. I believe they'd both be dead if we hadn't begun the Imulan before they began crashing like Rosie's 4 brothers did. (The 4 brothers didn't see their 1st birthday.) These two have so much energy-galloping up and down the hall-one minute she's chasing him and then when they reverse directions-he's chasing her! I absolutely love it-not a sneeze or a sniffle since Sept, when they were constantly sick before the treatments. Rosie is 16 months old, Murphy just a few months more. I am only giving the subq injection every 6 weeks now. (It was once a week for 4 weeks in the beginning, then 2 weeks, 4 weeks etc). If I didn't have the Imulan, I have been reading alot of great things about the IV vitamin C therapy-I just read an article that said it cured a bad case of H1N1 in a human-but I didn't try to verify it-there is alot of information out there on the IV vitamin C-I do believe it is worth checking into. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Help - I can't get LTCI in Georgia!
Thanks again, Sally. I'm a great believer in vitamin C, have taken megadoses of it myself with good results. I haven't used it methodically in cats like you have, although I have used Belfield's Vitamin C. When I get another cat with early FIP or FELV like you're talking about, I'll see about finding a vet who'll do an IV drip - wish I'd done it with some of my cats who've now passed on. Gloria in Arkansas On Dec 11, 2009, at 10:44 AM, S. Jewell wrote: Gary, I used the Mega C Plus on a feral FeLV cat for six months but ultimately he did not seroconvert because it was already in his bone marrow. Had I the opportunity to start megadoses of oral vitamin C at the beginning stages of his virus he would likely still be alive, because like taking C for the common cold, timing is key in stopping the progression of viruses. Ascorbic acid is critical for prevention and optimal health in cats and dogs, but it is nearly impossible to get enough of it into a cat orally to eradicate an aggressive, life-threatening virus once well-established. Cats and dogs make very little vitamin C in the liver compared to most animals, hence the reason they succumb to these diseases. I talked with Wendell Belfield, DVM about his use of this protocol and he confirmed that if the infection/disease/virus is too advanced a more aggressive approach is necessary through sub-Q or IM injections or intravenous infusions. Though an excellent formula, his oral Mega-C Plus contains iron, which can limit the amount than can be used therapeutically. Otherwise, there is no toxic limit for pure ascorbic acid and the more you can get into the cat up to bowel tolerance, the more beneficial. When the body is under stress (animal or human) and fighting illness, more vitamin C is tolerated and necessary to eradicate the disease/virus. The myths about kidney stones, peeing expensive urine, etc., are just that - myths, propagated by those who would stand to lose huge money were ascorbic acid widely accepted and used for eradicating disease. Vitamin C has been known to fight 30 major diseases for over 50 years, and as Wendell Belfield DVM knew well and practiced from the 1960s on, it also cures cat and dog viruses, infection and disease. Giving high doses of sodium ascorbate intravenously to an FeLV cat in the early stages of the disease should permanently eradicate the FeLV virus as it did with FIP in my kitten, and in fact, ANY virus. I am preparing to do just such a trial on the next newly diagnosed FeLV kitten that comes into my care. The key is catching it early and administering enough to permanently destroy the virus. With my two FIP kittens, Chuckie was the first to become symptomatic. We administered IV sodium ascorbate (vitamin C) at 1 gram per pound of body weight (5,000 mg daily) for five days. We stopped the drips when he appeared better, though he soon took a nose dive and by the time my vet opened again he was too far gone from a neurological standpoint. The virus had not been totally eradicated in those five days at that low dose, and when the C was stopped the virus replicated and killed him. When his sister Angelica began to manifest with the same chronic high fevers, weight loss, lack of appetite, and transient neurologic symptoms, a passage in Klenner's Clinical Guide to the Use of Vitamin C grabbed my attention, to wit: . . . failure to benefit from Vitamin C use is usually due to inadequate amounts being used for too short a period of time. Newly armed with this information, we doubled Angelica's IV C to 2g per pound of body weight so that she was getting 10g daily. We continued the drips daily and on day 7 her 105 fever came down. We continued for 4 more days to make sure the virus was killed and we didn't have a repeat situation as with poor Chuckie. Her fevers remained down through day 11 and then we tapered her off of the C and gave it orally to avoid rebound scurvy. It has been 3 weeks and she is eating well, gaining weight, and totally asymptomatic. Needless to say, she now gets C in her food every day. The difference between the two treatment scenarios is that Chuckie received too many immune-destroying antibiotics and steroids before his official FIP diagnosis returned and by the time we started the IV C drips he was terribly compromised, though he probably would have survived had I only realized that we were administering too little vitamin C for too short a time. When Angelica became sick I went straight to the IV vitamin C as my first line of defense and apparently that, and the proper dosage amount and administration length, were the keys to curing her. I hope this helps some of you. I posted much of this information before but it seemed to be dismissed a priori with few appearing to consider it legitimate or worthy of greater investigation. This is sad, because while everyone continues to talk of what to do for these poor FeLV, FIV, FIP and other sick cats, with a little
Re: [Felvtalk] Help - I can't get LTCI in Georgia!
Happy to help, Gloria. If you need any information at all about the protocol, please keep my numbers (below) and call me any time. You may have guessed by now that I am very passionate about this and beyond anxious to start seeing pet owners trying this safe and effective protocol for their own sick cats. I hope to have a Web site with more information online soon. In the meantime, I can't tell you enough how important it is to read Dr. Fred Klenner's Clinical Guide to the Use of Vitamin C (full text available online at http://www.seanet.com/~alexs/ascorbate/198x/smith-lh-clinica l_guide_1988.htm), and Dr. Wendell Belfield's paper Megascorbic Prophylaxis and Megascorbic Therapy: A New Orthomolecular Modality in Veterinary Medicine (full text available online at http://www.seanet.com/~alexs/ascorbate/197x/belfield-w-j_int _assn_prev_med-1978-v2-n3-p10.htm). I have seen IV vitamin C work a miracle for three of my cats with lymphoma, upper respiratory and recently FIP, and though far from an expert on the subject, I am certainly an expert at trying. :-) Sally Snyder Jewell Tower Laboratories Corporation Manufacturers of Pauling Therapy Formulas for Coronary Heart Disease Since 1996 http://www.HeartTech.com E-mail: sa...@towerlaboratories.com Toll Free: 1-877-TOWER-LABS (1-877.869.3752) Voice: 502.368.2720; 502.368.2721 Fax: 502.368.0019 Pauling Therapy Information Web site: http://www.HeartTech.com Pauling Therapy Order Link: http://www.PaulingTherapyStore.com The products manufactured by Tower Laboratories Corporation, Inc. are not intended to diagnose, treat, cure or prevent disease in the United States. Without prejudice to the generality of the contents herein, this message is not meant nor intended to diagnose, treat, or otherwise mitigate any health related condition. This message does not attach any legal liability onto the originator thereof. This communication may also contain information which is confidential, and therefore privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you have received this message by error, please delete the email and destroy any copies of it. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk- boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Gloria B. Lane Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 1:34 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Help - I can't get LTCI in Georgia! Thanks again, Sally. I'm a great believer in vitamin C, have taken megadoses of it myself with good results. I haven't used it methodically in cats like you have, although I have used Belfield's Vitamin C. When I get another cat with early FIP or FELV like you're talking about, I'll see about finding a vet who'll do an IV drip - wish I'd done it with some of my cats who've now passed on. Gloria in Arkansas On Dec 11, 2009, at 10:44 AM, S. Jewell wrote: Gary, I used the Mega C Plus on a feral FeLV cat for six months but ultimately he did not seroconvert because it was already in his bone marrow. Had I the opportunity to start megadoses of oral vitamin C at the beginning stages of his virus he would likely still be alive, because like taking C for the common cold, timing is key in stopping the progression of viruses. Ascorbic acid is critical for prevention and optimal health in cats and dogs, but it is nearly impossible to get enough of it into a cat orally to eradicate an aggressive, life-threatening virus once well-established. Cats and dogs make very little vitamin C in the liver compared to most animals, hence the reason they succumb to these diseases. I talked with Wendell Belfield, DVM about his use of this protocol and he confirmed that if the infection/disease/virus is too advanced a more aggressive approach is necessary through sub-Q or IM injections or intravenous infusions. Though an excellent formula, his oral Mega-C Plus contains iron, which can limit the amount than can be used therapeutically. Otherwise, there is no toxic limit for pure ascorbic acid and the more you can get into the cat up to bowel tolerance, the more beneficial. When the body is under stress (animal or human) and fighting illness, more vitamin C is tolerated and necessary to eradicate the disease/virus. The myths about kidney stones, peeing expensive urine, etc., are just that - myths, propagated by those who would stand to lose huge money were ascorbic acid widely accepted and used for eradicating disease. Vitamin C has been known to fight 30 major diseases for over 50 years, and as Wendell Belfield DVM knew well and practiced from the 1960s on, it also cures cat and dog viruses, infection and disease. Giving high doses of sodium ascorbate intravenously to an FeLV cat in the early stages of the disease should permanently eradicate the FeLV virus as it did with FIP in my kitten, and in fact, ANY virus. I am
Re: [Felvtalk] Help - I can't get LTCI in Georgia!
Happy to help, Gloria. If you need any information at all about the protocol, please keep my numbers (below) and call me any time. You may have guessed by now that I am very passionate about this and beyond anxious to start seeing pet owners trying this safe and effective protocol for their own sick cats. I hope to have a Web site with more information online soon. In the meantime, I can't tell you enough how important it is to read Dr. Fred Klenner's Clinical Guide to the Use of Vitamin C (full text available online at http://www.seanet.com/~alexs/ascorbate/198x/smith-lh-clinica l_guide_1988.htm), and Dr. Wendell Belfield's paper Megascorbic Prophylaxis and Megascorbic Therapy: A New Orthomolecular Modality in Veterinary Medicine (full text available online at http://www.seanet.com/~alexs/ascorbate/197x/belfield-w-j_int _assn_prev_med-1978-v2-n3-p10.htm). I have seen IV vitamin C work a miracle for three of my cats with lymphoma, upper respiratory and recently FIP, and though far from an expert on the subject, I am certainly an expert at trying. :-) Sally Snyder Jewell Tower Laboratories Corporation Manufacturers of Pauling Therapy Formulas for Coronary Heart Disease Since 1996 http://www.HeartTech.com E-mail: sa...@towerlaboratories.com Toll Free: 1-877-TOWER-LABS (1-877.869.3752) Voice: 502.368.2720; 502.368.2721 Fax: 502.368.0019 Pauling Therapy Information Web site: http://www.HeartTech.com Pauling Therapy Order Link: http://www.PaulingTherapyStore.com The products manufactured by Tower Laboratories Corporation, Inc. are not intended to diagnose, treat, cure or prevent disease in the United States. Without prejudice to the generality of the contents herein, this message is not meant nor intended to diagnose, treat, or otherwise mitigate any health related condition. This message does not attach any legal liability onto the originator thereof. This communication may also contain information which is confidential, and therefore privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you have received this message by error, please delete the email and destroy any copies of it. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk- boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Gloria B. Lane Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 1:34 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Help - I can't get LTCI in Georgia! Thanks again, Sally. I'm a great believer in vitamin C, have taken megadoses of it myself with good results. I haven't used it methodically in cats like you have, although I have used Belfield's Vitamin C. When I get another cat with early FIP or FELV like you're talking about, I'll see about finding a vet who'll do an IV drip - wish I'd done it with some of my cats who've now passed on. Gloria in Arkansas On Dec 11, 2009, at 10:44 AM, S. Jewell wrote: Gary, I used the Mega C Plus on a feral FeLV cat for six months but ultimately he did not seroconvert because it was already in his bone marrow. Had I the opportunity to start megadoses of oral vitamin C at the beginning stages of his virus he would likely still be alive, because like taking C for the common cold, timing is key in stopping the progression of viruses. Ascorbic acid is critical for prevention and optimal health in cats and dogs, but it is nearly impossible to get enough of it into a cat orally to eradicate an aggressive, life-threatening virus once well-established. Cats and dogs make very little vitamin C in the liver compared to most animals, hence the reason they succumb to these diseases. I talked with Wendell Belfield, DVM about his use of this protocol and he confirmed that if the infection/disease/virus is too advanced a more aggressive approach is necessary through sub-Q or IM injections or intravenous infusions. Though an excellent formula, his oral Mega-C Plus contains iron, which can limit the amount than can be used therapeutically. Otherwise, there is no toxic limit for pure ascorbic acid and the more you can get into the cat up to bowel tolerance, the more beneficial. When the body is under stress (animal or human) and fighting illness, more vitamin C is tolerated and necessary to eradicate the disease/virus. The myths about kidney stones, peeing expensive urine, etc., are just that - myths, propagated by those who would stand to lose huge money were ascorbic acid widely accepted and used for eradicating disease. Vitamin C has been known to fight 30 major diseases for over 50 years, and as Wendell Belfield DVM knew well and practiced from the 1960s on, it also cures cat and dog viruses, infection and disease. Giving high doses of sodium ascorbate intravenously to an FeLV cat in the early stages of the disease should permanently eradicate the FeLV virus as it did with FIP in my kitten, and in fact, ANY virus. I am
Re: [Felvtalk] Help - I can't get LTCI in Georgia!
I know, that's why I'm so shocked myself. I haven't spoken with my vet; he left me a voice mail yesterday while I was at work and I didn't have time to call him back, since we were swamped with folks desperate to surrender their pets before Christmas (I need presents for my kids, so I can't afford to feed my dog!). All he said was that it was related to some legal issue, and no one in the state is currently able to get it. Frustrating. The vitamin C thing is interesting; I'll have to run that by him. I'm not far from the GA-AL line...I wonder if I could bring her to Alabama if it's available there. I'm just desperate to do SOMETHING while she's still healthy. Her brother is gone and I just can't lose her. --- On Fri, 12/11/09, Alice Flowers aliceflow...@sbcglobal.net wrote: From: Alice Flowers aliceflow...@sbcglobal.net Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Help - I can't get LTCI in Georgia! To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Friday, December 11, 2009, 1:28 PM I am shocked that your vet cannot order it. It's not even a drug per se. Perhaps your vet can contact another vet that can order it? My vet is the Sacramento Cat Hospital and if you google it, they have a website with all their contact info. As I type this, Rosie has Murphy in a headlock and is trying to bite his eyehe has these huge persian-like eyeballs and fluffy hair-she is a sleek tabby from a feral colony and loves to terrorize him these days even though she's half his size. I believe they'd both be dead if we hadn't begun the Imulan before they began crashing like Rosie's 4 brothers did. (The 4 brothers didn't see their 1st birthday.) These two have so much energy-galloping up and down the hall-one minute she's chasing him and then when they reverse directions-he's chasing her! I absolutely love it-not a sneeze or a sniffle since Sept, when they were constantly sick before the treatments. Rosie is 16 months old, Murphy just a few months more. I am only giving the subq injection every 6 weeks now. (It was once a week for 4 weeks in the beginning, then 2 weeks, 4 weeks etc). If I didn't have the Imulan, I have been reading alot of great things about the IV vitamin C therapy-I just read an article that said it cured a bad case of H1N1 in a human-but I didn't try to verify it-there is alot of information out there on the IV vitamin C-I do believe it is worth checking into. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Mine is Akaal Pet Hospital in Citrus Heights. They ordered it for my cat all the time! Sent from my iPhone On Dec 11, 2009, at 10:28 AM, Alice Flowers aliceflow...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I am shocked that your vet cannot order it. It's not even a drug per se. Perhaps your vet can contact another vet that can order it? My vet is the Sacramento Cat Hospital and if you google it, they have a website with all their contact info. As I type this, Rosie has Murphy in a headlock and is trying to bite his eyehe has these huge persian-like eyeballs and fluffy hair-she is a sleek tabby from a feral colony and loves to terrorize him these days even though she's half his size. I believe they'd both be dead if we hadn't begun the Imulan before they began crashing like Rosie's 4 brothers did. (The 4 brothers didn't see their 1st birthday.) These two have so much energy-galloping up and down the hall-one minute she's chasing him and then when they reverse directions-he's chasing her! I absolutely love it-not a sneeze or a sniffle since Sept, when they were constantly sick before the treatments. Rosie is 16 months old, Murphy just a few months more. I am only giving the subq injection every 6 weeks now. (It was once a week for 4 weeks in the beginning, then 2 weeks, 4 weeks etc). If I didn't have the Imulan, I have been reading alot of great things about the IV vitamin C therapy-I just read an article that said it cured a bad case of H1N1 in a human-but I didn't try to verify it-there is alot of information out there on the IV vitamin C- I do believe it is worth checking into. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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OK-I didn't realize that we are in the same area!! How crazy is that? I live in Rio Linda (Sacramento County) with my kitties, horses and antique Aussies (all over 10 yrs old). Citrus Heights is within 15-20 minutes away. Small World! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Help - I can't get LTCI in Georgia!
As some of you may have read in my post from last week, my vet and I had planned to start Bridget on LTCI. Unfortunately, when my vet tried to order it, there was a problem. For some reason, the GA state vet isn't allowing the drug into the state at this time, for anybody - some legal issue. So.what are my options? I was excited hopeful about the possibilities of this drug now Bridget can't have it. What other therapies can you folks recommend? I've used interferon with two cats with no success. Bridget is currently asymptomatic, but I would like to try something, anything, to buy her as much time as possible. I'd appreciate any suggestions. Thanks. Laura ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Help - I can't get LTCI in Georgia!
I'm getting it from a friend (a former list member in NM who is getting it from her vet and sending it to me). Can you ask someone out of state to order it for you and send it to you directly. I cannot imagine that you would be penalized for excepting a package from out of state? It really sounds like gestapo tactics. not allowing it in the state. Good luck getting and using it! Jane On Dec 10, 2009, at 9:01 PM, LauraM wrote: As some of you may have read in my post from last week, my vet and I had planned to start Bridget on LTCI. Unfortunately, when my vet tried to order it, there was a problem. For some reason, the GA state vet isn't allowing the drug into the state at this time, for anybody - some legal issue. So.what are my options? I was excited hopeful about the possibilities of this drug now Bridget can't have it. What other therapies can you folks recommend? I've used interferon with two cats with no success. Bridget is currently asymptomatic, but I would like to try something, anything, to buy her as much time as possible. I'd appreciate any suggestions. Thanks. Laura ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Help - I can't get LTCI in Georgia!
How odd. Has your vet spoken to Imulan about this problem? There isn't anything I know for sure that helps a lot other than a good diet and low stress. There are many things that people use with varying success. I just started using Acemannan and had success turning to FeLV positive anemic kittens into what appears to be pretty healthy positive cats. You already know about Interferon. Best Friends uses Immuno Regulin (now available as EqStim) .5 ml sub-q once a month on their positives. I have used Moducare and there is Transfer Factor and several others. There is oral vitamin C using Mega C. Does anything work all the time on every cat? I doubt it and we may be throwing our money away most of the time, who knows? Dr. Belfield claims he cured every positive cat that came through his practice of 30 years with his Mega C. My cats don't seem to like it so I haven't figured out how to dose them with enough to experiment with that. Gary LauraM wrote: As some of you may have read in my post from last week, my vet and I had planned to start Bridget on LTCI. Unfortunately, when my vet tried to order it, there was a problem. For some reason, the GA state vet isn't allowing the drug into the state at this time, for anybody - some legal issue. So.what are my options? I was excited hopeful about the possibilities of this drug now Bridget can't have it. What other therapies can you folks recommend? I've used interferon with two cats with no success. Bridget is currently asymptomatic, but I would like to try something, anything, to buy her as much time as possible. I'd appreciate any suggestions. Thanks. Laura ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
