Re: [Felvtalk] Kiwi our felv one year old cat
Have you tried giving them canned pumpkin? Whenever my kitties start to get diarrhea, I give them that. They love the stuff!Alice Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 00:51:21 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Kiwi our felv one year old cat There is a new product for diarrhea (Purina?). Maybe someone else remembers what it's called. May need a vet to provide it. Not sure. I wouldn't sit on either problem. Good you are acting. Prayers for Kiwi. L Iowa You do not need a vet to provide Fortiflora, if that is what you are talking about...Purina makes it. Fortiflora: *http://tinyurl.com/4zp9h5 *My vet swears by Diarsanyl : *http://tinyurl.com/6cpowb *He says it contains volcanic earth, and to quote him sounds like hippie stuff, but it works. I keep both in my arsenal of kitty diarrhea remedies. Usually if one does not work, the other will. * * http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 Check out our Memsaic! http://www.memsaic.com/app/launch.cfm?sid=08D2CAB2A6E9 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Please help with some of our kitties medical needs! http://rescuties.chipin.com/kitties-medical-expenses Rather than helping, it's easier to point fingers and say take them first as long as you leave me alone. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Kiwi our felv one year old cat
Not being able to take him to the vet makes it tough. Canned pumpkin (not pie filling) has helped many kitties. So has slippery elm bark which can be found in most health food stores or on line. Also giving a probiotic could help. Since Kiwi won't eat canned food it might be hard to give him the pumpkin. Diarrhea can lead to dehydration which will cause another laundry list of problems. Food allergies and IBD both cause these symptoms. A cat can develop a food allergy even if they have been eating a food for a period of time. The eyes are another issue. He may need terramycin salve to clear up the eye. Supplementing with L-Lysine couldn't hurt. Sharyl --- On Sat, 8/23/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Kiwi our felv one year old cat To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Saturday, August 23, 2008, 9:44 PM My son found kiwi beside his dead sibling in the woods. Kiwi was actually very healthy. We cleaned him up and gave him kitten formula. The next day we took him to our local vet who thought he was between 2 1/2 to 3 weeks old. He would not suck on the kitten nipple bottle so we feed him through a dropper. He acted as though we could not feed him fast enough. He loved his kitten formula. We did everything for him a mom cat would do. He thrived. When he was about 3 months old one of my daughters took the kitten to the vet because she was also taking her cat. Everything looked good until they did the fel Luk test. It came take positive. We were all shocked. The vet asked us what we wanted to do. Like do we want them to put him to sleep. I couldn't believe it. This active happy go lucky kitten. I couldn't imagine doing something like that. We were worried about the other cat, who had been immunized against it. He came back negative. Well, this was last summer. Now he is a year old and has been fixed and tested positive again. We think he might have gotten it from his farel mother's milk. All this time we were trying to place him in a foster home, because we had two dogs and another cat. There has not been any openings, I think possibly because he is felv positive. Right now he has diarrhea and some guk in his eyes. But he does act fine. I do feed him dry food because he throws up wet food. He needs to see a vet, but I don't have the money. I know with dogs if they get an upset stomack and have diarrhea, chicken breast is good. I am wondering if chicken breast might be helpful for cats also. I am also exploring to see if I can sign him up with Bandfield at Petsmart. I would get the top plan which is about $30.00. I figure it's better then nothing. I think most lab work is included. And I also think they he will need plenty of blood test to check his blood count. Any advise is very welcomed. Thanks! P.S. wish I could send pictures of him! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Kiwi our felv one year old cat
My son found kiwi beside his dead sibling in the woods. Kiwi was actually very healthy. We cleaned him up and gave him kitten formula. The next day we took him to our local vet who thought he was between 2 1/2 to 3 weeks old. He would not suck on the kitten nipple bottle so we feed him through a dropper. He acted as though we could not feed him fast enough. He loved his kitten formula. We did everything for him a mom cat would do. He thrived. When he was about 3 months old one of my daughters took the kitten to the vet because she was also taking her cat. Everything looked good until they did the fel Luk test. It came take positive. We were all shocked. The vet asked us what we wanted to do. Like do we want them to put him to sleep. I couldn't believe it. This active happy go lucky kitten. I couldn't imagine doing something like that. We were worried about the other cat, who had been immunized against it. He came back negative. Well, this was last summer. Now he is a year old and has been fixed and tested positive again. We think he might have gotten it from his farel mother's milk. All this time we were trying to place him in a foster home, because we had two dogs and another cat. There has not been any openings, I think possibly because he is felv positive. Right now he has diarrhea and some guk in his eyes. But he does act fine. I do feed him dry food because he throws up wet food. He needs to see a vet, but I don't have the money. I know with dogs if they get an upset stomack and have diarrhea, chicken breast is good. I am wondering if chicken breast might be helpful for cats also. I am also exploring to see if I can sign him up with Bandfield at Petsmart. I would get the top plan which is about $30.00. I figure it's better then nothing. I think most lab work is included. And I also think they he will need plenty of blood test to check his blood count. Any advise is very welcomed. Thanks! P.S. wish I could send pictures of him! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Kiwi our felv one year old cat
Welcome to the group. Chicken breast, as well as chicken broth, worked great with my kitty Julie, who had some eating issues. Didn't help with diarrhea though. Canned pumpkin can be good for that (without spices). I always promote pure L-lysine as a supplement; you can get it at a health food store. You might have to mix it in his water if he won't eat wet food. Or in chicken broth. It's tasteless. It's good for boosting the immune system. A stress free environment and good diet are the two most important things you can do for Kiwi. The lysine may also help with the stuff in his eyes, because a lot of times that's associated with conjunctivitis/feline herpes (can't sure it but it's not anything serious; it's kind of like cold sores for humans). Lysine is good for herpes because it acts as an anti-viral. Not sure how I feel about regular blood testing for FeLV+ kitties. I did have a kitty die from anemia, so it may surprise some that I have this view, but I think the stress of the vet visit, especially many vet visits, might off-set the benefit of having regular blood tests. But that is just my opinion, and there are others here who may feel differently. Good luck with Kiwi and keep us posted! :) Wendy (Texas) Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 8:44:44 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Kiwi our felv one year old cat My son found kiwi beside his dead sibling in the woods. Kiwi was actually very healthy. We cleaned him up and gave him kitten formula. The next day we took him to our local vet who thought he was between 2 1/2 to 3 weeks old. He would not suck on the kitten nipple bottle so we feed him through a dropper. He acted as though we could not feed him fast enough. He loved his kitten formula. We did everything for him a mom cat would do. He thrived. When he was about 3 months old one of my daughters took the kitten to the vet because she was also taking her cat. Everything looked good until they did the fel Luk test. It came take positive. We were all shocked. The vet asked us what we wanted to do. Like do we want them to put him to sleep. I couldn't believe it. This active happy go lucky kitten. I couldn't imagine doing something like that. We were worried about the other cat, who had been immunized against it. He came back negative. Well, this was last summer. Now he is a year old and has been fixed and tested positive again. We think he might have gotten it from his farel mother's milk. All this time we were trying to place him in a foster home, because we had two dogs and another cat. There has not been any openings, I think possibly because he is felv positive. Right now he has diarrhea and some guk in his eyes. But he does act fine. I do feed him dry food because he throws up wet food. He needs to see a vet, but I don't have the money. I know with dogs if they get an upset stomack and have diarrhea, chicken breast is good. I am wondering if chicken breast might be helpful for cats also. I am also exploring to see if I can sign him up with Bandfield at Petsmart. I would get the top plan which is about $30.00. I figure it's better then nothing. I think most lab work is included. And I also think they he will need plenty of blood test to check his blood count. Any advise is very welcomed. Thanks! P.S. wish I could send pictures of him! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Kiwi our felv one year old cat
I'm so glad you joined this group - I remember when I found my little kitten Calawalla Banana BooBoo, in 2001, and she looked so darned healthy - so lively, and she tested positive for FELV and I just didn't know anything about it. Fortunately, I had a vet who didn't sugggest euth. and who said not to worry, the virus dies when it hits the air, etc etc. I kept her separated from my other cats for a while - even taped paper to the bottom of the door. But after rading and talking and being on this list, I finally decided to just open the doors up and mix the cats. WOrked fine. Calawalla died in 2004. I knew about interferon, from Tally and her web site, but never used it - just didn't think that healthy little kitten would get sick and die. But she did, she was between 2.5 and 3 yrs old.It seemed fairly sudden, but she had mediastinal lymphoma. Anyhow, I'm a believer in daily interferon, if the kitties are less than 4 years old. I have a friend with 1 FELV cat and 1 non-FELV cat. She's used oral low dose interferon for her FELV cat, and kitty has made it past kittenhood into adult hood (must be 5 or 6 now). There are vastly different prices available for interferon. BTW, I have 5 FELV cats right now - 1 is 5, 2 are around 13 years, and the new one is a year or two - I'm starting him on interferon. SOunds like your kitten may have some additional problems, but he may turn out ok - I'd encourage you to go ahead and pursue keeping him healthy, and also look into interferon. Chicken sounds like a good option for upset stomach, btw. Best of luck, Gloria On Aug 23, 2008, at 8:44 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My son found kiwi beside his dead sibling in the woods. Kiwi was actually very healthy. We cleaned him up and gave him kitten formula. The next day we took him to our local vet who thought he was between 2 1/2 to 3 weeks old. He would not suck on the kitten nipple bottle so we feed him through a dropper. He acted as though we could not feed him fast enough. He loved his kitten formula. We did everything for him a mom cat would do. He thrived. When he was about 3 months old one of my daughters took the kitten to the vet because she was also taking her cat. Everything looked good until they did the fel Luk test. It came take positive. We were all shocked. The vet asked us what we wanted to do. Like do we want them to put him to sleep. I couldn't believe it. This active happy go lucky kitten. I couldn't imagine doing something like that. We were worried about the other cat, who had been immunized against it. He came back negative. Well, this was last summer. Now he is a year old and has been fixed and tested positive again. We think he might have gotten it from his farel mother's milk. All this time we were trying to place him in a foster home, because we had two dogs and another cat. There has not been any openings, I think possibly because he is felv positive. Right now he has diarrhea and some guk in his eyes. But he does act fine. I do feed him dry food because he throws up wet food. He needs to see a vet, but I don't have the money. I know with dogs if they get an upset stomack and have diarrhea, chicken breast is good. I am wondering if chicken breast might be helpful for cats also. I am also exploring to see if I can sign him up with Bandfield at Petsmart. I would get the top plan which is about $30.00. I figure it's better then nothing. I think most lab work is included. And I also think they he will need plenty of blood test to check his blood count. Any advise is very welcomed. Thanks! P.S. wish I could send pictures of him! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Kiwi our felv one year old cat
Wendy, I am certainly no expert but have experienced life with a felv positive cat. If your Kiwi is acting fine, maybe you could change his diet to see if this helps his diarrhea. We had a cat who would eat nothing but chicken (human chicken) and he lived for over 20 years. Of course he didn't have feline leukemia. Personally, my belief is that stess is the biggest killer of these cats. You can have all the lab work in the world done but if you are not financially in a position to pay for extrodinary treatment, then what is the point. My concern now would be to get the diarrhea under control and watch his eyes. That can be treated. It may not be anything all that significant. If he becomes inactive, won't eat or drink water or seems to be having trouble breathing then I would take him to the vet. Also if the diarrhea doesn't subside with a change in diet he should be checked out as well. Best of luck to you and your Kiwi. Lynne - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 9:44 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Kiwi our felv one year old cat My son found kiwi beside his dead sibling in the woods. Kiwi was actually very healthy. We cleaned him up and gave him kitten formula. The next day we took him to our local vet who thought he was between 2 1/2 to 3 weeks old. He would not suck on the kitten nipple bottle so we feed him through a dropper. He acted as though we could not feed him fast enough. He loved his kitten formula. We did everything for him a mom cat would do. He thrived. When he was about 3 months old one of my daughters took the kitten to the vet because she was also taking her cat. Everything looked good until they did the fel Luk test. It came take positive. We were all shocked. The vet asked us what we wanted to do. Li ke do we want them to put him to sleep. I couldn't believe it. This active happy go lucky kitten. I couldn't imagine doing something like that. We were worried about the other cat, who had been immunized against it. He came back negative. Well, this was last summer. Now he is a year old and has been fixed and tested positive again. We think he might have gotten it from his farel mother's milk. All this time we were trying to place him in a foster home, because we had two dogs and another cat. The re has not been any openings, I think possibly because he is felv positive. Right now he has diarrhea and some guk in his eyes. But he does act fine. I do feed him dry food because he throws up wet food. He needs to see a vet, but I don't have the money. I know with dogs if they get an upset stomack and have diarrhea, chicken breast is good. I am wondering if chicken breast might be helpful for cats also. I am also exploring to see if I can sign him up with Bandfield at Petsmart. I would get the top plan which is about $30.00. I figure it's better then nothing. I think most lab work is included. And I also think they he will need plenty of blood test to check his blood count. Any advise is very welcomed. Thanks! P.S. wish I could send pictures of him! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org __ NOD32 3382 (20080823) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Kiwi our felv one year old cat
A couple of my cats have herpes. An outbreak is evidenced by clear discharge from the eyes. Gunky eyes most likely mean an upper respiratory infection which may require antibiotics. A failure to treat an infected eye can lead to ulcers and even blindness. I encourage a vet visit for the gunky eyes. A vet can tell you if Kiwi has a temperature...unless you can take his temp. I wouldn't wait for gunky eyes to self correct. For diarrhea/food ideas, check out www.catinfo.org and maybe visit the IBD yahoo group. Sometimes WD works (if they need more fiber) and sometimes Low Reside Works (if they need less fiber). Both foods have to be purchased at vet office. Diarrhea can sometimes mean a food allergy (it does in my house) and often times grains can be allergens. Important to keep him hydrated. You can syringe unflavored pedialyte into his mouth (carefully). Good info on syringing at the feline assisted feeding yahoo group. There is a new product for diarrhea (Purina?). Maybe someone else remembers what it's called. May need a vet to provide it. Not sure. I wouldn't sit on either problem. Good you are acting. Prayers for Kiwi. L Iowa -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lynne Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 10:20 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Kiwi our felv one year old cat Wendy, I am certainly no expert but have experienced life with a felv positive cat. If your Kiwi is acting fine, maybe you could change his diet to see if this helps his diarrhea. We had a cat who would eat nothing but chicken (human chicken) and he lived for over 20 years. Of course he didn't have feline leukemia. Personally, my belief is that stess is the biggest killer of these cats. You can have all the lab work in the world done but if you are not financially in a position to pay for extrodinary treatment, then what is the point. My concern now would be to get the diarrhea under control and watch his eyes. That can be treated. It may not be anything all that significant. If he becomes inactive, won't eat or drink water or seems to be having trouble breathing then I would take him to the vet. Also if the diarrhea doesn't subside with a change in diet he should be checked out as well. Best of luck to you and your Kiwi. Lynne - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 9:44 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Kiwi our felv one year old cat My son found kiwi beside his dead sibling in the woods. Kiwi was actually very healthy. We cleaned him up and gave him kitten formula. The next day we took him to our local vet who thought he was between 2 1/2 to 3 weeks old. He would not suck on the kitten nipple bottle so we feed him through a dropper. He acted as though we could not feed him fast enough. He loved his kitten formula. We did everything for him a mom cat would do. He thrived. When he was about 3 months old one of my daughters took the kitten to the vet because she was also taking her cat. Everything looked good until they did the fel Luk test. It came take positive. We were all shocked. The vet asked us what we wanted to do. Li ke do we want them to put him to sleep. I couldn't believe it. This active happy go lucky kitten. I couldn't imagine doing something like that. We were worried about the other cat, who had been immunized against it. He came back negative. Well, this was last summer. Now he is a year old and has been fixed and tested positive again. We think he might have gotten it from his farel mother's milk. All this time we were trying to place him in a foster home, because we had two dogs and another cat. The re has not been any openings, I think possibly because he is felv positive. Right now he has diarrhea and some guk in his eyes. But he does act fine. I do feed him dry food because he throws up wet food. He needs to see a vet, but I don't have the money. I know with dogs if they get an upset stomack and have diarrhea, chicken breast is good. I am wondering if chicken breast might be helpful for cats also. I am also exploring to see if I can sign him up with Bandfield at Petsmart. I would get the top plan which is about $30.00. I figure it's better then nothing. I think most lab work is included. And I also think they he will need plenty of blood test to check his blood count. Any advise is very welcomed. Thanks! P.S. wish I could send pictures of him! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org __ NOD32 3382 (20080823) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Kiwi our felv one year old cat
I hope everything turns out OK for the little guy. Will Bandfield take him and not exclude anything to do with pre-existing conditions? Will they take a FeLV+ cat at all? I would guess they wouldn't cover him but would be very happy to hear they would. Gary - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 8:44 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Kiwi our felv one year old cat My son found kiwi beside his dead sibling in the woods. Kiwi was actually very healthy. We cleaned him up and gave him kitten formula. The next day we took him to our local vet who thought he was between 2 1/2 to 3 weeks old. He would not suck on the kitten nipple bottle so we feed him through a dropper. He acted as though we could not feed him fast enough. He loved his kitten formula. We did everything for him a mom cat would do. He thrived. When he was about 3 months old one of my daughters took the kitten to the vet because she was also taking her cat. Everything looked good until they did the fel Luk test. It came take positive. We were all shocked. The vet asked us what we wanted to do. Like do we want them to put him to sleep. I couldn't believe it. This active happy go lucky kitten. I couldn't imagine doing something like that. We were worried about the other cat, who had been immunized against it. He came back negative. Well, this was last summer. Now he is a year old and has been fixed and tested positive again. We think he might have gotten it from his farel mother's milk. All this time we were trying to place him in a foster home, because we had two dogs and another cat. There has not been any openings, I think possibly because he is felv positive. Right now he has diarrhea and some guk in his eyes. But he does act fine. I do feed him dry food because he throws up wet food. He needs to see a vet, but I don't have the money. I know with dogs if they get an upset stomack and have diarrhea, chicken breast is good. I am wondering if chicken breast might be helpful for cats also. I am also exploring to see if I can sign him up with Bandfield at Petsmart. I would get the top plan which is about $30.00. I figure it's better then nothing. I think most lab work is included. And I also think they he will need plenty of blood test to check his blood count. Any advise is very welcomed. Thanks! P.S. wish I could send pictures of him! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3382 (20080823) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Kiwi our felv one year old cat
There is a new product for diarrhea (Purina?). Maybe someone else remembers what it's called. May need a vet to provide it. Not sure. I wouldn't sit on either problem. Good you are acting. Prayers for Kiwi. L Iowa You do not need a vet to provide Fortiflora, if that is what you are talking about...Purina makes it. Fortiflora: *http://tinyurl.com/4zp9h5 *My vet swears by Diarsanyl : *http://tinyurl.com/6cpowb *He says it contains volcanic earth, and to quote him sounds like hippie stuff, but it works. I keep both in my arsenal of kitty diarrhea remedies. Usually if one does not work, the other will. * * http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 Check out our Memsaic! http://www.memsaic.com/app/launch.cfm?sid=08D2CAB2A6E9 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Please help with some of our kitties medical needs! http://rescuties.chipin.com/kitties-medical-expenses Rather than helping, it's easier to point fingers and say take them first as long as you leave me alone. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
