Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine

[Ardy Robertson]

Thanks Amani - I am also very intrigued by Doxycycline being able to, I believe 
you said - possibly stop the FeLV virus from replicating. Is this being studied 
and tested by vets, schools, etc.?

I also through it was said that the cannibas oil stopped the herpes virus of 
cold sores - my word - I thought we had nothing to defeat viruses. Docs always 
say "it's a virus, it has to run its course" - well maybe not! Yet they aren't 
looking at obvious sources just because of its third cousin - "weed". Good 
grief!

Rant over!
Ardy


-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amani 
Oakley
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2017 11:16 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine

Ardy, I think it was precisely because of my experience with Winstrol that I 
was open to the unthinkable thought that science and scientists weren’t always 
free to produce unbiased research, even when it could help a lot of animals or 
people.

I am, first and foremost, a scientist by training and inclination, and this 
concept was terribly foreign to me when I first stumbled upon the bizarre 
Winstrol situation. 

Amani

-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Ardy 
Robertson
Sent: June-24-17 12:12 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine

Sort of like the stigma surrounding Winstrol due to the misuse of it by an 
Olympic athlete... people and animals who could be helped by it are not. 
People are crazy sometimes.

Ardy

-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amani 
Oakley
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2017 12:42 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine

Cannabis is an absolutely amazing product. Do your own research. You will see 
very solid scientific evidence that backs up the many positive effects this 
substance has. In fact, I was pretty enraged when I did the research. It is 
clear that the decision to ban this substance was fraught with racial 
overtones, and was introduced simply because after the demise of prohibition, 
the government agency tasked with enforcing prohibition, needed a new mandate. 
It is also appalling that because of this ill-conceived war on drugs, and 
placing cannabis on Schedule 1 in the United States, virtually all scientific 
testing was either banned completely, or faced so many obstacles, that most 
scientists avoided doing any research on it at all. Thus, much of the 
scientific studies come from Spain and Israel. Oddly enough, when a 
pharmaceutical company decided to extract one of the key substances from the 
cannabis plant and market it as Marinol, it suddenly went from having no known 
medicinal qualities (the criteria to have it listed in Schedule 1) to being a 
very effective drug which can be marketed and can make lots of money for the 
drug company.

Do your own research. There is tons of stuff on the internet. There are Harvard 
professors and top-notch researchers turning out excellent, amazing research 
regarding the healing powers of this substance.

Oh, and the reason why so many of the States are now recognizing it for its 
medicinal qualities and legalizing it, is because it is unbelievably effective 
in helping young children suffering from severe forms of epilepsy where they 
literally convulse hundreds of times an hour, and the only medications 
heretofore even slightly effective would put these children into complete 
zombie states. Cannabis not only relieves the unbearable non-stop seizures, but 
doesn’t affect the children's level of consciousness. Parents in states which 
have not legalized marijuana have literally moved their whole families to other 
states to access medical marijuana when they have children suffering these 
syndromes. Even Republicans have in some instances been moved to back bills 
legalizing medical marijuana, when they have been confronted with these 
suffering children. Medical marijuana has also been found to be very effective 
for PTSD states, such as those suffered by servicemen and women who have served 
overseas and have witnessed traumatic events. 

With respect to cancer therapy, one of the worst cancers is the glioma which 
occurs in the brain. With such a diagnosis, most patients were dead within 6 
months. Spanish researchers have recently shown that in mice with 
experimentally-induced gliomas, and treated with cannabinoids, 1/3 showed 
complete resolution of the glioma, 1/3 showed a standstill in the development 
of the glioma, and 1/3 showed no improvement. Given that nothing else has been 
found to be consistently helpful in treating gliomas, these results are nothing 
short of earth-shattering. 

Read and learn. I cry when I think of all the people who might have been helped 
if not for the conspiracy related to this drug. It is deeply deeply disturbing.

Amani

-Origin

Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine

[Amani Oakley]

I think they obtain it directly from growers or they go to states where it is 
legal, or they get a prescription.

Amani

-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Ardy 
Robertson
Sent: June-24-17 12:16 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine

Amy - could you purchase it online?

I don't remember all the details, but I was told by a pharmacist several years 
ago (in Wisconsin where I live) that he was able to obtain medical marijuana 
for a cancer patient, and as far as I know it is not legal here. And of course 
I do know of people who have access to it, and use it for pain etc. - but I 
have no idea where they obtain it.
Ardy



-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amy 
Glunt
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2017 1:10 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine

I've spent countless hours researching cold sores and remedies for them, and 
NEVER, until now, have I heard anything about cannabis oil as a treatment. But 
now, when I search specifically for that in relation to herpes virus, I'm 
astounded...all this time, there's been a possible cure, and somehow this 
information isn't widely known or shared? Such a shame! And of course, I live 
in a red state that doesn't recognize medical marijuana. What a blow. All of 
the days I've had to miss work, all the pain and physical/mental suffering (my 
outbreaks are terrible and unforgiving, with swollen lymph nodes and fever 
symptoms)...and if only I could get some cannabis oil, I may no longer have to 
suffer. I'll hold out hope. 
Once again, thank you Amani, for your incredibly vast amount of knowledge. You 
literally saved my cat's life, and maybe some day, your shared knowledge will 
save me from the agony of cold sores. 

Amy

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 21, 2017, at 12:42 PM, Amani Oakley <aoak...@oakleylegal.com> wrote:
> 
> Cannabis is an absolutely amazing product. Do your own research. You will see 
> very solid scientific evidence that backs up the many positive effects this 
> substance has. In fact, I was pretty enraged when I did the research. It is 
> clear that the decision to ban this substance was fraught with racial 
> overtones, and was introduced simply because after the demise of prohibition, 
> the government agency tasked with enforcing prohibition, needed a new 
> mandate. It is also appalling that because of this ill-conceived war on 
> drugs, and placing cannabis on Schedule 1 in the United States, virtually all 
> scientific testing was either banned completely, or faced so many obstacles, 
> that most scientists avoided doing any research on it at all. Thus, much of 
> the scientific studies come from Spain and Israel. Oddly enough, when a 
> pharmaceutical company decided to extract one of the key substances from the 
> cannabis plant and market it as Marinol, it suddenly went from having no 
> known medicinal qualities (the criteria to have it listed in Schedule 1) to 
> being a very effective drug which can be marketed and can make lots of money 
> for the drug company.
> 
> Do your own research. There is tons of stuff on the internet. There are 
> Harvard professors and top-notch researchers turning out excellent, amazing 
> research regarding the healing powers of this substance.
> 
> Oh, and the reason why so many of the States are now recognizing it for its 
> medicinal qualities and legalizing it, is because it is unbelievably 
> effective in helping young children suffering from severe forms of epilepsy 
> where they literally convulse hundreds of times an hour, and the only 
> medications heretofore even slightly effective would put these children into 
> complete zombie states. Cannabis not only relieves the unbearable non-stop 
> seizures, but doesn’t affect the children's level of consciousness. Parents 
> in states which have not legalized marijuana have literally moved their whole 
> families to other states to access medical marijuana when they have children 
> suffering these syndromes. Even Republicans have in some instances been moved 
> to back bills legalizing medical marijuana, when they have been confronted 
> with these suffering children. Medical marijuana has also been found to be 
> very effective for PTSD states, such as those suffered by servicemen and 
> women who have served overseas and have witnessed traumatic events. 
> 
> With respect to cancer therapy, one of the worst cancers is the glioma which 
> occurs in the brain. With such a diagnosis, most patients were dead within 6 
> months. Spanish researchers have recently shown that in mice with 
> experimentally-induced gliomas, and treated with cannabinoids, 1/3 showed 
> complete resolution of the glioma, 1/3 showed a standstill in the development 
&

Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine

[Amani Oakley]

Ardy, I think it was precisely because of my experience with Winstrol that I 
was open to the unthinkable thought that science and scientists weren’t always 
free to produce unbiased research, even when it could help a lot of animals or 
people.

I am, first and foremost, a scientist by training and inclination, and this 
concept was terribly foreign to me when I first stumbled upon the bizarre 
Winstrol situation. 

Amani

-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Ardy 
Robertson
Sent: June-24-17 12:12 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine

Sort of like the stigma surrounding Winstrol due to the misuse of it by an 
Olympic athlete... people and animals who could be helped by it are not. 
People are crazy sometimes.

Ardy

-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amani 
Oakley
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2017 12:42 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine

Cannabis is an absolutely amazing product. Do your own research. You will see 
very solid scientific evidence that backs up the many positive effects this 
substance has. In fact, I was pretty enraged when I did the research. It is 
clear that the decision to ban this substance was fraught with racial 
overtones, and was introduced simply because after the demise of prohibition, 
the government agency tasked with enforcing prohibition, needed a new mandate. 
It is also appalling that because of this ill-conceived war on drugs, and 
placing cannabis on Schedule 1 in the United States, virtually all scientific 
testing was either banned completely, or faced so many obstacles, that most 
scientists avoided doing any research on it at all. Thus, much of the 
scientific studies come from Spain and Israel. Oddly enough, when a 
pharmaceutical company decided to extract one of the key substances from the 
cannabis plant and market it as Marinol, it suddenly went from having no known 
medicinal qualities (the criteria to have it listed in Schedule 1) to being a 
very effective drug which can be marketed and can make lots of money for the 
drug company.

Do your own research. There is tons of stuff on the internet. There are Harvard 
professors and top-notch researchers turning out excellent, amazing research 
regarding the healing powers of this substance.

Oh, and the reason why so many of the States are now recognizing it for its 
medicinal qualities and legalizing it, is because it is unbelievably effective 
in helping young children suffering from severe forms of epilepsy where they 
literally convulse hundreds of times an hour, and the only medications 
heretofore even slightly effective would put these children into complete 
zombie states. Cannabis not only relieves the unbearable non-stop seizures, but 
doesn’t affect the children's level of consciousness. Parents in states which 
have not legalized marijuana have literally moved their whole families to other 
states to access medical marijuana when they have children suffering these 
syndromes. Even Republicans have in some instances been moved to back bills 
legalizing medical marijuana, when they have been confronted with these 
suffering children. Medical marijuana has also been found to be very effective 
for PTSD states, such as those suffered by servicemen and women who have served 
overseas and have witnessed traumatic events. 

With respect to cancer therapy, one of the worst cancers is the glioma which 
occurs in the brain. With such a diagnosis, most patients were dead within 6 
months. Spanish researchers have recently shown that in mice with 
experimentally-induced gliomas, and treated with cannabinoids, 1/3 showed 
complete resolution of the glioma, 1/3 showed a standstill in the development 
of the glioma, and 1/3 showed no improvement. Given that nothing else has been 
found to be consistently helpful in treating gliomas, these results are nothing 
short of earth-shattering. 

Read and learn. I cry when I think of all the people who might have been helped 
if not for the conspiracy related to this drug. It is deeply deeply disturbing.

Amani

-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
dlg...@windstream.net
Sent: June-21-17 4:26 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Cc: ROBERT CHAPEL
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine

I agree on the cannibinol.  I wonder if maybe some of this is to justify making 
it legal saying it is for medical reasons.  It can't be all that wonderful, 
nothing is and when someone tells me that, I get suspicious.

 ROBERT CHAPEL <bcha...@optonline.net> wrote: 
> 


Amy
I'm not able to link to the article simply because it was not something I held 
on to...  At the time I had two FeLV+ young cats and I did NOT want to hear 
that one of the few things that I COULD do for them was useless  I 
mentioned it to a couple of vets who we

Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine

[Ardy Robertson]

Amy - could you purchase it online?

I don't remember all the details, but I was told by a pharmacist several years 
ago (in Wisconsin where I live) that he was able to obtain medical marijuana 
for a cancer patient, and as far as I know it is not legal here. And of course 
I do know of people who have access to it, and use it for pain etc. - but I 
have no idea where they obtain it.
Ardy



-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amy 
Glunt
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2017 1:10 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine

I've spent countless hours researching cold sores and remedies for them, and 
NEVER, until now, have I heard anything about cannabis oil as a treatment. But 
now, when I search specifically for that in relation to herpes virus, I'm 
astounded...all this time, there's been a possible cure, and somehow this 
information isn't widely known or shared? Such a shame! And of course, I live 
in a red state that doesn't recognize medical marijuana. What a blow. All of 
the days I've had to miss work, all the pain and physical/mental suffering (my 
outbreaks are terrible and unforgiving, with swollen lymph nodes and fever 
symptoms)...and if only I could get some cannabis oil, I may no longer have to 
suffer. I'll hold out hope. 
Once again, thank you Amani, for your incredibly vast amount of knowledge. You 
literally saved my cat's life, and maybe some day, your shared knowledge will 
save me from the agony of cold sores. 

Amy

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 21, 2017, at 12:42 PM, Amani Oakley <aoak...@oakleylegal.com> wrote:
> 
> Cannabis is an absolutely amazing product. Do your own research. You will see 
> very solid scientific evidence that backs up the many positive effects this 
> substance has. In fact, I was pretty enraged when I did the research. It is 
> clear that the decision to ban this substance was fraught with racial 
> overtones, and was introduced simply because after the demise of prohibition, 
> the government agency tasked with enforcing prohibition, needed a new 
> mandate. It is also appalling that because of this ill-conceived war on 
> drugs, and placing cannabis on Schedule 1 in the United States, virtually all 
> scientific testing was either banned completely, or faced so many obstacles, 
> that most scientists avoided doing any research on it at all. Thus, much of 
> the scientific studies come from Spain and Israel. Oddly enough, when a 
> pharmaceutical company decided to extract one of the key substances from the 
> cannabis plant and market it as Marinol, it suddenly went from having no 
> known medicinal qualities (the criteria to have it listed in Schedule 1) to 
> being a very effective drug which can be marketed and can make lots of money 
> for the drug company.
> 
> Do your own research. There is tons of stuff on the internet. There are 
> Harvard professors and top-notch researchers turning out excellent, amazing 
> research regarding the healing powers of this substance.
> 
> Oh, and the reason why so many of the States are now recognizing it for its 
> medicinal qualities and legalizing it, is because it is unbelievably 
> effective in helping young children suffering from severe forms of epilepsy 
> where they literally convulse hundreds of times an hour, and the only 
> medications heretofore even slightly effective would put these children into 
> complete zombie states. Cannabis not only relieves the unbearable non-stop 
> seizures, but doesn’t affect the children's level of consciousness. Parents 
> in states which have not legalized marijuana have literally moved their whole 
> families to other states to access medical marijuana when they have children 
> suffering these syndromes. Even Republicans have in some instances been moved 
> to back bills legalizing medical marijuana, when they have been confronted 
> with these suffering children. Medical marijuana has also been found to be 
> very effective for PTSD states, such as those suffered by servicemen and 
> women who have served overseas and have witnessed traumatic events. 
> 
> With respect to cancer therapy, one of the worst cancers is the glioma which 
> occurs in the brain. With such a diagnosis, most patients were dead within 6 
> months. Spanish researchers have recently shown that in mice with 
> experimentally-induced gliomas, and treated with cannabinoids, 1/3 showed 
> complete resolution of the glioma, 1/3 showed a standstill in the development 
> of the glioma, and 1/3 showed no improvement. Given that nothing else has 
> been found to be consistently helpful in treating gliomas, these results are 
> nothing short of earth-shattering. 
> 
> Read and learn. I cry when I think of all the people who might have been 
> helped if not for 

Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine

[Ardy Robertson]

Sort of like the stigma surrounding Winstrol due to the misuse of it by an 
Olympic athlete... people and animals who could be helped by it are not. 
People are crazy sometimes.

Ardy

-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amani 
Oakley
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2017 12:42 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine

Cannabis is an absolutely amazing product. Do your own research. You will see 
very solid scientific evidence that backs up the many positive effects this 
substance has. In fact, I was pretty enraged when I did the research. It is 
clear that the decision to ban this substance was fraught with racial 
overtones, and was introduced simply because after the demise of prohibition, 
the government agency tasked with enforcing prohibition, needed a new mandate. 
It is also appalling that because of this ill-conceived war on drugs, and 
placing cannabis on Schedule 1 in the United States, virtually all scientific 
testing was either banned completely, or faced so many obstacles, that most 
scientists avoided doing any research on it at all. Thus, much of the 
scientific studies come from Spain and Israel. Oddly enough, when a 
pharmaceutical company decided to extract one of the key substances from the 
cannabis plant and market it as Marinol, it suddenly went from having no known 
medicinal qualities (the criteria to have it listed in Schedule 1) to being a 
very effective drug which can be marketed and can make lots of money for the 
drug company.

Do your own research. There is tons of stuff on the internet. There are Harvard 
professors and top-notch researchers turning out excellent, amazing research 
regarding the healing powers of this substance.

Oh, and the reason why so many of the States are now recognizing it for its 
medicinal qualities and legalizing it, is because it is unbelievably effective 
in helping young children suffering from severe forms of epilepsy where they 
literally convulse hundreds of times an hour, and the only medications 
heretofore even slightly effective would put these children into complete 
zombie states. Cannabis not only relieves the unbearable non-stop seizures, but 
doesn’t affect the children's level of consciousness. Parents in states which 
have not legalized marijuana have literally moved their whole families to other 
states to access medical marijuana when they have children suffering these 
syndromes. Even Republicans have in some instances been moved to back bills 
legalizing medical marijuana, when they have been confronted with these 
suffering children. Medical marijuana has also been found to be very effective 
for PTSD states, such as those suffered by servicemen and women who have served 
overseas and have witnessed traumatic events. 

With respect to cancer therapy, one of the worst cancers is the glioma which 
occurs in the brain. With such a diagnosis, most patients were dead within 6 
months. Spanish researchers have recently shown that in mice with 
experimentally-induced gliomas, and treated with cannabinoids, 1/3 showed 
complete resolution of the glioma, 1/3 showed a standstill in the development 
of the glioma, and 1/3 showed no improvement. Given that nothing else has been 
found to be consistently helpful in treating gliomas, these results are nothing 
short of earth-shattering. 

Read and learn. I cry when I think of all the people who might have been helped 
if not for the conspiracy related to this drug. It is deeply deeply disturbing.

Amani

-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
dlg...@windstream.net
Sent: June-21-17 4:26 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Cc: ROBERT CHAPEL
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine

I agree on the cannibinol.  I wonder if maybe some of this is to justify making 
it legal saying it is for medical reasons.  It can't be all that wonderful, 
nothing is and when someone tells me that, I get suspicious.

 ROBERT CHAPEL <bcha...@optonline.net> wrote: 
> 


Amy
I'm not able to link to the article simply because it was not something I held 
on to...  At the time I had two FeLV+ young cats and I did NOT want to hear 
that one of the few things that I COULD do for them was useless  I 
mentioned it to a couple of vets who were rather insistent that it IS 
useful  Yes/No Maybe so  : )  I chose to believe and did not make a point 
of keeping the article for reference...  and Amani ( if you happen to read 
this)  I am getting hopeful about all of the uses of cannabinol ( though I AM 
suspect when something is said to be useful for everything from Cancer to 
Transmission Trouble in Oldsmobiles)...  With all the Hoopla there must be a 
pony in there somewhere..


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Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine

[dlgegg]

Thanks.  I got started with amazon when I broke my arm and could not carry 
heavy bags of liter and food and just stayed there.  Will check out Chewy.

 Gloria <gloriajh...@verizon.net> wrote: 
> Topic was l-lysine FYI 邏
> 
> I shop Amazon, Petflow, and many other online pet supply stores and chewy.com 
> has consistently been the best value and customer service. If you choose 
> their autoship you can save more $$on selected products.
> They didn't pay me for this-I just want others to know so they'll have more 
> $$ to continue caring for their companions.
> I currently care for 15 cats-mostly feral-born. One was diagnosed w/85% 
> chance of FeLV, but if he was infected I believe he was Devinely healed in 
> answer to my prayers for him.
> So, with the cost of caring for these precious creatures I'm always looking 
> for the best cost-saving products. :)
> Gloria
> -g 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Jun 21, 2017, at 5:00 PM, Pam Doore <thyme2s...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > I get mine from chewy.com. I needs to be made for cats or it is bitter. Two 
> > of mine get the gel mixed in with flld 2x a day. The othet gets the treats, 
> > all from Chewy :-).
> > 
> >> On Jun 21, 2017 5:26 PM, <dlg...@windstream.net> wrote:
> >> Okay, I am convinced.  Next question is where do you get the safe stuff.  
> >> There are many sources out there and I don't want to buy from a shady 
> >> seller.
> >> 
> >>  Amani Oakley <aoak...@oakleylegal.com> wrote:
> >> > Amy, you could have knocked me over with a feather too. I had some 
> >> > cannabis oil I had obtained for a relative with cancer, who eventually 
> >> > passed away. I had gotten the oil far too late in the day, 
> >> > unfortunately, as I too knew nothing about this stuff and was pretty 
> >> > darned skeptical - having been brought up as a "good girl" who had never 
> >> > ever tried drugs of any kind.
> >> >
> >> > I had seen a lot of information about the oil being excellent for skin 
> >> > cancer with just topical application, so one day, I had a cold sore 
> >> > starting at the corner of my mouth and I thought, why not? I put some on 
> >> > topically, put a band-aid over it overnight, and woke up to find it 
> >> > completely gone. I have used other stuff from the drug mart, and found 
> >> > that it assisted SOMETIMES in shortening the duration of the cold sore, 
> >> > but never before had I had the sore disappear on day one. I then did a 
> >> > Google search on cannabis oil and cold sores, and was stunned to find 
> >> > many many people reporting its significant effectiveness and research 
> >> > which found its effectiveness against herpes viruses.
> >> >
> >> > Amani
> >> >
> >> > -Original Message-
> >> > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
> >> > Amy Glunt
> >> > Sent: June-21-17 2:10 PM
> >> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> >> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine
> >> >
> >> > I've spent countless hours researching cold sores and remedies for them, 
> >> > and NEVER, until now, have I heard anything about cannabis oil as a 
> >> > treatment. But now, when I search specifically for that in relation to 
> >> > herpes virus, I'm astounded...all this time, there's been a possible 
> >> > cure, and somehow this information isn't widely known or shared? Such a 
> >> > shame! And of course, I live in a red state that doesn't recognize 
> >> > medical marijuana. What a blow. All of the days I've had to miss work, 
> >> > all the pain and physical/mental suffering (my outbreaks are terrible 
> >> > and unforgiving, with swollen lymph nodes and fever symptoms)...and if 
> >> > only I could get some cannabis oil, I may no longer have to suffer. I'll 
> >> > hold out hope.
> >> > Once again, thank you Amani, for your incredibly vast amount of 
> >> > knowledge. You literally saved my cat's life, and maybe some day, your 
> >> > shared knowledge will save me from the agony of cold sores.
> >> >
> >> > Amy
> >> >
> >> > Sent from my iPhone
> >> >
> >> > > On Jun 21, 2017, at 12:42 PM, Amani Oakley <aoak...@oakleylegal.com> 
> >> > > wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > Cannabis is an absolutely amazing product. Do your own re

Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine

[Amani Oakley]

Well, I guess that makes sense then!

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Pam 
Doore
Sent: June-21-17 9:44 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine

I was talking about lysine.

~~@~@~@~@~@

Christ beside me, Christ before me, Christ behind me, Christ within me, Christ 
beneath me, Christ above me. — St. Patrick

On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 8:18 PM, Amani Oakley 
<aoak...@oakleylegal.com<mailto:aoak...@oakleylegal.com>> wrote:
Huh??

Are you sure it is cannabis oil and not a derivative of hemp which is sometimes 
confusingly called the same thing? Usually you need a prescription and to jump 
through a million hoops. I don’t think it is easily available. I just went to 
chewy.com<http://chewy.com>, but don’t see it. I did a search on “cannabis” and 
another on “oil” and nothing came up fitting the bill. I would have been really 
surprised if something had.

Amani

From: Felvtalk 
[mailto:felvtalk-bounces@<mailto:felvtalk-bounces@>felineleukemia.org<http://felineleukemia.org>]
 On Behalf Of Pam Doore
Sent: June-21-17 8:00 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine


I get mine from chewy.com. I needs to be made for cats or it is bitter. Two of 
mine get the gel mixed in with flld 2x a day. The othet gets the treats, all 
from Chewy :-).
On Jun 21, 2017 5:26 PM, <dlg...@windstream.net<mailto:dlg...@windstream.net>> 
wrote:
Okay, I am convinced.  Next question is where do you get the safe stuff.  There 
are many sources out there and I don't want to buy from a shady seller.

 Amani Oakley <aoak...@oakleylegal.com<mailto:aoak...@oakleylegal.com>> 
wrote:
> Amy, you could have knocked me over with a feather too. I had some cannabis 
> oil I had obtained for a relative with cancer, who eventually passed away. I 
> had gotten the oil far too late in the day, unfortunately, as I too knew 
> nothing about this stuff and was pretty darned skeptical - having been 
> brought up as a "good girl" who had never ever tried drugs of any kind.
>
> I had seen a lot of information about the oil being excellent for skin cancer 
> with just topical application, so one day, I had a cold sore starting at the 
> corner of my mouth and I thought, why not? I put some on topically, put a 
> band-aid over it overnight, and woke up to find it completely gone. I have 
> used other stuff from the drug mart, and found that it assisted SOMETIMES in 
> shortening the duration of the cold sore, but never before had I had the sore 
> disappear on day one. I then did a Google search on cannabis oil and cold 
> sores, and was stunned to find many many people reporting its significant 
> effectiveness and research which found its effectiveness against herpes 
> viruses.
>
> Amani
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amy 
> Glunt
> Sent: June-21-17 2:10 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine
>
> I've spent countless hours researching cold sores and remedies for them, and 
> NEVER, until now, have I heard anything about cannabis oil as a treatment. 
> But now, when I search specifically for that in relation to herpes virus, I'm 
> astounded...all this time, there's been a possible cure, and somehow this 
> information isn't widely known or shared? Such a shame! And of course, I live 
> in a red state that doesn't recognize medical marijuana. What a blow. All of 
> the days I've had to miss work, all the pain and physical/mental suffering 
> (my outbreaks are terrible and unforgiving, with swollen lymph nodes and 
> fever symptoms)...and if only I could get some cannabis oil, I may no longer 
> have to suffer. I'll hold out hope.
> Once again, thank you Amani, for your incredibly vast amount of knowledge. 
> You literally saved my cat's life, and maybe some day, your shared knowledge 
> will save me from the agony of cold sores.
>
> Amy
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jun 21, 2017, at 12:42 PM, Amani Oakley 
> > <aoak...@oakleylegal.com<mailto:aoak...@oakleylegal.com>> wrote:
> >
> > Cannabis is an absolutely amazing product. Do your own research. You will 
> > see very solid scientific evidence that backs up the many positive effects 
> > this substance has. In fact, I was pretty enraged when I did the research. 
> > It is clear that the decision to ban this substance was fraught with racial 
> > overtones, and was introduced simply because after the demise of 
> > prohibition, the government agency tasked with enforcing prohibition, 
> > needed a new mandate. It is also appalling that beca

Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine

[Pam Doore]

I was talking about lysine.

~~@~@~@~@~@

*Christ beside me, Christ before me, Christ behind me, Christ within me,
Christ beneath me, Christ above me. — **St. Patrick*


On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 8:18 PM, Amani Oakley <aoak...@oakleylegal.com>
wrote:

> Huh??
>
>
>
> Are you sure it is cannabis oil and not a derivative of hemp which is
> sometimes confusingly called the same thing? Usually you need a
> prescription and to jump through a million hoops. I don’t think it is
> easily available. I just went to chewy.com, but don’t see it. I did a
> search on “cannabis” and another on “oil” and nothing came up fitting the
> bill. I would have been really surprised if something had.
>
>
>
> Amani
>
>
>
> *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf
> Of *Pam Doore
> *Sent:* June-21-17 8:00 PM
> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine
>
>
>
> I get mine from chewy.com. I needs to be made for cats or it is bitter.
> Two of mine get the gel mixed in with flld 2x a day. The othet gets the
> treats, all from Chewy :-).
>
> On Jun 21, 2017 5:26 PM, <dlg...@windstream.net> wrote:
>
> Okay, I am convinced.  Next question is where do you get the safe stuff.
> There are many sources out there and I don't want to buy from a shady
> seller.
>
>  Amani Oakley <aoak...@oakleylegal.com> wrote:
> > Amy, you could have knocked me over with a feather too. I had some
> cannabis oil I had obtained for a relative with cancer, who eventually
> passed away. I had gotten the oil far too late in the day, unfortunately,
> as I too knew nothing about this stuff and was pretty darned skeptical -
> having been brought up as a "good girl" who had never ever tried drugs of
> any kind.
> >
> > I had seen a lot of information about the oil being excellent for skin
> cancer with just topical application, so one day, I had a cold sore
> starting at the corner of my mouth and I thought, why not? I put some on
> topically, put a band-aid over it overnight, and woke up to find it
> completely gone. I have used other stuff from the drug mart, and found that
> it assisted SOMETIMES in shortening the duration of the cold sore, but
> never before had I had the sore disappear on day one. I then did a Google
> search on cannabis oil and cold sores, and was stunned to find many many
> people reporting its significant effectiveness and research which found its
> effectiveness against herpes viruses.
> >
> > Amani
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf
> Of Amy Glunt
> > Sent: June-21-17 2:10 PM
> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine
> >
> > I've spent countless hours researching cold sores and remedies for them,
> and NEVER, until now, have I heard anything about cannabis oil as a
> treatment. But now, when I search specifically for that in relation to
> herpes virus, I'm astounded...all this time, there's been a possible cure,
> and somehow this information isn't widely known or shared? Such a shame!
> And of course, I live in a red state that doesn't recognize medical
> marijuana. What a blow. All of the days I've had to miss work, all the pain
> and physical/mental suffering (my outbreaks are terrible and unforgiving,
> with swollen lymph nodes and fever symptoms)...and if only I could get some
> cannabis oil, I may no longer have to suffer. I'll hold out hope.
> > Once again, thank you Amani, for your incredibly vast amount of
> knowledge. You literally saved my cat's life, and maybe some day, your
> shared knowledge will save me from the agony of cold sores.
> >
> > Amy
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > > On Jun 21, 2017, at 12:42 PM, Amani Oakley <aoak...@oakleylegal.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Cannabis is an absolutely amazing product. Do your own research. You
> will see very solid scientific evidence that backs up the many positive
> effects this substance has. In fact, I was pretty enraged when I did the
> research. It is clear that the decision to ban this substance was fraught
> with racial overtones, and was introduced simply because after the demise
> of prohibition, the government agency tasked with enforcing prohibition,
> needed a new mandate. It is also appalling that because of this
> ill-conceived war on drugs, and placing cannabis on Schedule 1 in the
> United States, virtually all scientific testing was either banned
> completely, or faced so many obstacles, that most scientists avoided doing
> any research on it at all. Thus, much of the scientific studies come from
>

Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine

[Gloria]

Topic was l-lysine FYI 邏

I shop Amazon, Petflow, and many other online pet supply stores and chewy.com 
has consistently been the best value and customer service. If you choose their 
autoship you can save more $$on selected products.
They didn't pay me for this-I just want others to know so they'll have more $$ 
to continue caring for their companions.
I currently care for 15 cats-mostly feral-born. One was diagnosed w/85% chance 
of FeLV, but if he was infected I believe he was Devinely healed in answer to 
my prayers for him.
So, with the cost of caring for these precious creatures I'm always looking for 
the best cost-saving products. :)
Gloria
-g 
Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 21, 2017, at 5:00 PM, Pam Doore <thyme2s...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I get mine from chewy.com. I needs to be made for cats or it is bitter. Two 
> of mine get the gel mixed in with flld 2x a day. The othet gets the treats, 
> all from Chewy :-).
> 
>> On Jun 21, 2017 5:26 PM, <dlg...@windstream.net> wrote:
>> Okay, I am convinced.  Next question is where do you get the safe stuff.  
>> There are many sources out there and I don't want to buy from a shady seller.
>> 
>>  Amani Oakley <aoak...@oakleylegal.com> wrote:
>> > Amy, you could have knocked me over with a feather too. I had some 
>> > cannabis oil I had obtained for a relative with cancer, who eventually 
>> > passed away. I had gotten the oil far too late in the day, unfortunately, 
>> > as I too knew nothing about this stuff and was pretty darned skeptical - 
>> > having been brought up as a "good girl" who had never ever tried drugs of 
>> > any kind.
>> >
>> > I had seen a lot of information about the oil being excellent for skin 
>> > cancer with just topical application, so one day, I had a cold sore 
>> > starting at the corner of my mouth and I thought, why not? I put some on 
>> > topically, put a band-aid over it overnight, and woke up to find it 
>> > completely gone. I have used other stuff from the drug mart, and found 
>> > that it assisted SOMETIMES in shortening the duration of the cold sore, 
>> > but never before had I had the sore disappear on day one. I then did a 
>> > Google search on cannabis oil and cold sores, and was stunned to find many 
>> > many people reporting its significant effectiveness and research which 
>> > found its effectiveness against herpes viruses.
>> >
>> > Amani
>> >
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
>> > Amy Glunt
>> > Sent: June-21-17 2:10 PM
>> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine
>> >
>> > I've spent countless hours researching cold sores and remedies for them, 
>> > and NEVER, until now, have I heard anything about cannabis oil as a 
>> > treatment. But now, when I search specifically for that in relation to 
>> > herpes virus, I'm astounded...all this time, there's been a possible cure, 
>> > and somehow this information isn't widely known or shared? Such a shame! 
>> > And of course, I live in a red state that doesn't recognize medical 
>> > marijuana. What a blow. All of the days I've had to miss work, all the 
>> > pain and physical/mental suffering (my outbreaks are terrible and 
>> > unforgiving, with swollen lymph nodes and fever symptoms)...and if only I 
>> > could get some cannabis oil, I may no longer have to suffer. I'll hold out 
>> > hope.
>> > Once again, thank you Amani, for your incredibly vast amount of knowledge. 
>> > You literally saved my cat's life, and maybe some day, your shared 
>> > knowledge will save me from the agony of cold sores.
>> >
>> > Amy
>> >
>> > Sent from my iPhone
>> >
>> > > On Jun 21, 2017, at 12:42 PM, Amani Oakley <aoak...@oakleylegal.com> 
>> > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Cannabis is an absolutely amazing product. Do your own research. You 
>> > > will see very solid scientific evidence that backs up the many positive 
>> > > effects this substance has. In fact, I was pretty enraged when I did the 
>> > > research. It is clear that the decision to ban this substance was 
>> > > fraught with racial overtones, and was introduced simply because after 
>> > > the demise of prohibition, the government agency tasked with enforcing 
>> > > prohibition, needed a new mandate. It is also appalling that because of 
>> > > this ill-conceived war on drugs, and pla

Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine

[Amani Oakley]

Huh??

Are you sure it is cannabis oil and not a derivative of hemp which is sometimes 
confusingly called the same thing? Usually you need a prescription and to jump 
through a million hoops. I don’t think it is easily available. I just went to 
chewy.com, but don’t see it. I did a search on “cannabis” and another on “oil” 
and nothing came up fitting the bill. I would have been really surprised if 
something had.

Amani

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Pam 
Doore
Sent: June-21-17 8:00 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine


I get mine from chewy.com<http://chewy.com>. I needs to be made for cats or it 
is bitter. Two of mine get the gel mixed in with flld 2x a day. The othet gets 
the treats, all from Chewy :-).
On Jun 21, 2017 5:26 PM, <dlg...@windstream.net<mailto:dlg...@windstream.net>> 
wrote:
Okay, I am convinced.  Next question is where do you get the safe stuff.  There 
are many sources out there and I don't want to buy from a shady seller.

 Amani Oakley <aoak...@oakleylegal.com<mailto:aoak...@oakleylegal.com>> 
wrote:
> Amy, you could have knocked me over with a feather too. I had some cannabis 
> oil I had obtained for a relative with cancer, who eventually passed away. I 
> had gotten the oil far too late in the day, unfortunately, as I too knew 
> nothing about this stuff and was pretty darned skeptical - having been 
> brought up as a "good girl" who had never ever tried drugs of any kind.
>
> I had seen a lot of information about the oil being excellent for skin cancer 
> with just topical application, so one day, I had a cold sore starting at the 
> corner of my mouth and I thought, why not? I put some on topically, put a 
> band-aid over it overnight, and woke up to find it completely gone. I have 
> used other stuff from the drug mart, and found that it assisted SOMETIMES in 
> shortening the duration of the cold sore, but never before had I had the sore 
> disappear on day one. I then did a Google search on cannabis oil and cold 
> sores, and was stunned to find many many people reporting its significant 
> effectiveness and research which found its effectiveness against herpes 
> viruses.
>
> Amani
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Felvtalk 
> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org>]
>  On Behalf Of Amy Glunt
> Sent: June-21-17 2:10 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine
>
> I've spent countless hours researching cold sores and remedies for them, and 
> NEVER, until now, have I heard anything about cannabis oil as a treatment. 
> But now, when I search specifically for that in relation to herpes virus, I'm 
> astounded...all this time, there's been a possible cure, and somehow this 
> information isn't widely known or shared? Such a shame! And of course, I live 
> in a red state that doesn't recognize medical marijuana. What a blow. All of 
> the days I've had to miss work, all the pain and physical/mental suffering 
> (my outbreaks are terrible and unforgiving, with swollen lymph nodes and 
> fever symptoms)...and if only I could get some cannabis oil, I may no longer 
> have to suffer. I'll hold out hope.
> Once again, thank you Amani, for your incredibly vast amount of knowledge. 
> You literally saved my cat's life, and maybe some day, your shared knowledge 
> will save me from the agony of cold sores.
>
> Amy
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jun 21, 2017, at 12:42 PM, Amani Oakley 
> > <aoak...@oakleylegal.com<mailto:aoak...@oakleylegal.com>> wrote:
> >
> > Cannabis is an absolutely amazing product. Do your own research. You will 
> > see very solid scientific evidence that backs up the many positive effects 
> > this substance has. In fact, I was pretty enraged when I did the research. 
> > It is clear that the decision to ban this substance was fraught with racial 
> > overtones, and was introduced simply because after the demise of 
> > prohibition, the government agency tasked with enforcing prohibition, 
> > needed a new mandate. It is also appalling that because of this 
> > ill-conceived war on drugs, and placing cannabis on Schedule 1 in the 
> > United States, virtually all scientific testing was either banned 
> > completely, or faced so many obstacles, that most scientists avoided doing 
> > any research on it at all. Thus, much of the scientific studies come from 
> > Spain and Israel. Oddly enough, when a pharmaceutical company decided to 
> > extract one of the key substances from the cannabis plant and market it as 
> > Marinol, it suddenly went from having no known medicin

Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine

[Pam Doore]

I get mine from chewy.com. I needs to be made for cats or it is bitter. Two
of mine get the gel mixed in with flld 2x a day. The othet gets the treats,
all from Chewy :-).
On Jun 21, 2017 5:26 PM, <dlg...@windstream.net> wrote:

> Okay, I am convinced.  Next question is where do you get the safe stuff.
> There are many sources out there and I don't want to buy from a shady
> seller.
>
>  Amani Oakley <aoak...@oakleylegal.com> wrote:
> > Amy, you could have knocked me over with a feather too. I had some
> cannabis oil I had obtained for a relative with cancer, who eventually
> passed away. I had gotten the oil far too late in the day, unfortunately,
> as I too knew nothing about this stuff and was pretty darned skeptical -
> having been brought up as a "good girl" who had never ever tried drugs of
> any kind.
> >
> > I had seen a lot of information about the oil being excellent for skin
> cancer with just topical application, so one day, I had a cold sore
> starting at the corner of my mouth and I thought, why not? I put some on
> topically, put a band-aid over it overnight, and woke up to find it
> completely gone. I have used other stuff from the drug mart, and found that
> it assisted SOMETIMES in shortening the duration of the cold sore, but
> never before had I had the sore disappear on day one. I then did a Google
> search on cannabis oil and cold sores, and was stunned to find many many
> people reporting its significant effectiveness and research which found its
> effectiveness against herpes viruses.
> >
> > Amani
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf
> Of Amy Glunt
> > Sent: June-21-17 2:10 PM
> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine
> >
> > I've spent countless hours researching cold sores and remedies for them,
> and NEVER, until now, have I heard anything about cannabis oil as a
> treatment. But now, when I search specifically for that in relation to
> herpes virus, I'm astounded...all this time, there's been a possible cure,
> and somehow this information isn't widely known or shared? Such a shame!
> And of course, I live in a red state that doesn't recognize medical
> marijuana. What a blow. All of the days I've had to miss work, all the pain
> and physical/mental suffering (my outbreaks are terrible and unforgiving,
> with swollen lymph nodes and fever symptoms)...and if only I could get some
> cannabis oil, I may no longer have to suffer. I'll hold out hope.
> > Once again, thank you Amani, for your incredibly vast amount of
> knowledge. You literally saved my cat's life, and maybe some day, your
> shared knowledge will save me from the agony of cold sores.
> >
> > Amy
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > > On Jun 21, 2017, at 12:42 PM, Amani Oakley <aoak...@oakleylegal.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Cannabis is an absolutely amazing product. Do your own research. You
> will see very solid scientific evidence that backs up the many positive
> effects this substance has. In fact, I was pretty enraged when I did the
> research. It is clear that the decision to ban this substance was fraught
> with racial overtones, and was introduced simply because after the demise
> of prohibition, the government agency tasked with enforcing prohibition,
> needed a new mandate. It is also appalling that because of this
> ill-conceived war on drugs, and placing cannabis on Schedule 1 in the
> United States, virtually all scientific testing was either banned
> completely, or faced so many obstacles, that most scientists avoided doing
> any research on it at all. Thus, much of the scientific studies come from
> Spain and Israel. Oddly enough, when a pharmaceutical company decided to
> extract one of the key substances from the cannabis plant and market it as
> Marinol, it suddenly went from having no known medicinal qualities (the
> criteria to have it listed in Schedule 1) to being a very effective drug
> which can be marketed and can make lots of money for the drug company.
> > >
> > > Do your own research. There is tons of stuff on the internet. There
> are Harvard professors and top-notch researchers turning out excellent,
> amazing research regarding the healing powers of this substance.
> > >
> > > Oh, and the reason why so many of the States are now recognizing it
> for its medicinal qualities and legalizing it, is because it is
> unbelievably effective in helping young children suffering from severe
> forms of epilepsy where they literally convulse hundreds of times an hour,
> and the only medications heretofore even slightly effective would p

Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine

[dlgegg]

Okay, I am convinced.  Next question is where do you get the safe stuff.  There 
are many sources out there and I don't want to buy from a shady seller.

 Amani Oakley <aoak...@oakleylegal.com> wrote: 
> Amy, you could have knocked me over with a feather too. I had some cannabis 
> oil I had obtained for a relative with cancer, who eventually passed away. I 
> had gotten the oil far too late in the day, unfortunately, as I too knew 
> nothing about this stuff and was pretty darned skeptical - having been 
> brought up as a "good girl" who had never ever tried drugs of any kind.
> 
> I had seen a lot of information about the oil being excellent for skin cancer 
> with just topical application, so one day, I had a cold sore starting at the 
> corner of my mouth and I thought, why not? I put some on topically, put a 
> band-aid over it overnight, and woke up to find it completely gone. I have 
> used other stuff from the drug mart, and found that it assisted SOMETIMES in 
> shortening the duration of the cold sore, but never before had I had the sore 
> disappear on day one. I then did a Google search on cannabis oil and cold 
> sores, and was stunned to find many many people reporting its significant 
> effectiveness and research which found its effectiveness against herpes 
> viruses.
> 
> Amani
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amy 
> Glunt
> Sent: June-21-17 2:10 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine
> 
> I've spent countless hours researching cold sores and remedies for them, and 
> NEVER, until now, have I heard anything about cannabis oil as a treatment. 
> But now, when I search specifically for that in relation to herpes virus, I'm 
> astounded...all this time, there's been a possible cure, and somehow this 
> information isn't widely known or shared? Such a shame! And of course, I live 
> in a red state that doesn't recognize medical marijuana. What a blow. All of 
> the days I've had to miss work, all the pain and physical/mental suffering 
> (my outbreaks are terrible and unforgiving, with swollen lymph nodes and 
> fever symptoms)...and if only I could get some cannabis oil, I may no longer 
> have to suffer. I'll hold out hope. 
> Once again, thank you Amani, for your incredibly vast amount of knowledge. 
> You literally saved my cat's life, and maybe some day, your shared knowledge 
> will save me from the agony of cold sores. 
> 
> Amy
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Jun 21, 2017, at 12:42 PM, Amani Oakley <aoak...@oakleylegal.com> wrote:
> > 
> > Cannabis is an absolutely amazing product. Do your own research. You will 
> > see very solid scientific evidence that backs up the many positive effects 
> > this substance has. In fact, I was pretty enraged when I did the research. 
> > It is clear that the decision to ban this substance was fraught with racial 
> > overtones, and was introduced simply because after the demise of 
> > prohibition, the government agency tasked with enforcing prohibition, 
> > needed a new mandate. It is also appalling that because of this 
> > ill-conceived war on drugs, and placing cannabis on Schedule 1 in the 
> > United States, virtually all scientific testing was either banned 
> > completely, or faced so many obstacles, that most scientists avoided doing 
> > any research on it at all. Thus, much of the scientific studies come from 
> > Spain and Israel. Oddly enough, when a pharmaceutical company decided to 
> > extract one of the key substances from the cannabis plant and market it as 
> > Marinol, it suddenly went from having no known medicinal qualities (the 
> > criteria to have it listed in Schedule 1) to being a very effective drug 
> > which can be marketed and can make lots of money for the drug company.
> > 
> > Do your own research. There is tons of stuff on the internet. There are 
> > Harvard professors and top-notch researchers turning out excellent, amazing 
> > research regarding the healing powers of this substance.
> > 
> > Oh, and the reason why so many of the States are now recognizing it for its 
> > medicinal qualities and legalizing it, is because it is unbelievably 
> > effective in helping young children suffering from severe forms of epilepsy 
> > where they literally convulse hundreds of times an hour, and the only 
> > medications heretofore even slightly effective would put these children 
> > into complete zombie states. Cannabis not only relieves the unbearable 
> > non-stop seizures, but doesn’t affect the children's level of 
> > consciousness. Parents in states which have not legali

Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine

[Amani Oakley]

Amy, you could have knocked me over with a feather too. I had some cannabis oil 
I had obtained for a relative with cancer, who eventually passed away. I had 
gotten the oil far too late in the day, unfortunately, as I too knew nothing 
about this stuff and was pretty darned skeptical - having been brought up as a 
"good girl" who had never ever tried drugs of any kind.

I had seen a lot of information about the oil being excellent for skin cancer 
with just topical application, so one day, I had a cold sore starting at the 
corner of my mouth and I thought, why not? I put some on topically, put a 
band-aid over it overnight, and woke up to find it completely gone. I have used 
other stuff from the drug mart, and found that it assisted SOMETIMES in 
shortening the duration of the cold sore, but never before had I had the sore 
disappear on day one. I then did a Google search on cannabis oil and cold 
sores, and was stunned to find many many people reporting its significant 
effectiveness and research which found its effectiveness against herpes viruses.

Amani

-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amy 
Glunt
Sent: June-21-17 2:10 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine

I've spent countless hours researching cold sores and remedies for them, and 
NEVER, until now, have I heard anything about cannabis oil as a treatment. But 
now, when I search specifically for that in relation to herpes virus, I'm 
astounded...all this time, there's been a possible cure, and somehow this 
information isn't widely known or shared? Such a shame! And of course, I live 
in a red state that doesn't recognize medical marijuana. What a blow. All of 
the days I've had to miss work, all the pain and physical/mental suffering (my 
outbreaks are terrible and unforgiving, with swollen lymph nodes and fever 
symptoms)...and if only I could get some cannabis oil, I may no longer have to 
suffer. I'll hold out hope. 
Once again, thank you Amani, for your incredibly vast amount of knowledge. You 
literally saved my cat's life, and maybe some day, your shared knowledge will 
save me from the agony of cold sores. 

Amy

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 21, 2017, at 12:42 PM, Amani Oakley <aoak...@oakleylegal.com> wrote:
> 
> Cannabis is an absolutely amazing product. Do your own research. You will see 
> very solid scientific evidence that backs up the many positive effects this 
> substance has. In fact, I was pretty enraged when I did the research. It is 
> clear that the decision to ban this substance was fraught with racial 
> overtones, and was introduced simply because after the demise of prohibition, 
> the government agency tasked with enforcing prohibition, needed a new 
> mandate. It is also appalling that because of this ill-conceived war on 
> drugs, and placing cannabis on Schedule 1 in the United States, virtually all 
> scientific testing was either banned completely, or faced so many obstacles, 
> that most scientists avoided doing any research on it at all. Thus, much of 
> the scientific studies come from Spain and Israel. Oddly enough, when a 
> pharmaceutical company decided to extract one of the key substances from the 
> cannabis plant and market it as Marinol, it suddenly went from having no 
> known medicinal qualities (the criteria to have it listed in Schedule 1) to 
> being a very effective drug which can be marketed and can make lots of money 
> for the drug company.
> 
> Do your own research. There is tons of stuff on the internet. There are 
> Harvard professors and top-notch researchers turning out excellent, amazing 
> research regarding the healing powers of this substance.
> 
> Oh, and the reason why so many of the States are now recognizing it for its 
> medicinal qualities and legalizing it, is because it is unbelievably 
> effective in helping young children suffering from severe forms of epilepsy 
> where they literally convulse hundreds of times an hour, and the only 
> medications heretofore even slightly effective would put these children into 
> complete zombie states. Cannabis not only relieves the unbearable non-stop 
> seizures, but doesn’t affect the children's level of consciousness. Parents 
> in states which have not legalized marijuana have literally moved their whole 
> families to other states to access medical marijuana when they have children 
> suffering these syndromes. Even Republicans have in some instances been moved 
> to back bills legalizing medical marijuana, when they have been confronted 
> with these suffering children. Medical marijuana has also been found to be 
> very effective for PTSD states, such as those suffered by servicemen and 
> women who have served overseas and have witnessed traumatic events. 
> 
> With respect to cancer therapy, one of the

Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine

[Amy Glunt]

I've spent countless hours researching cold sores and remedies for them, and 
NEVER, until now, have I heard anything about cannabis oil as a treatment. But 
now, when I search specifically for that in relation to herpes virus, I'm 
astounded...all this time, there's been a possible cure, and somehow this 
information isn't widely known or shared? Such a shame! And of course, I live 
in a red state that doesn't recognize medical marijuana. What a blow. All of 
the days I've had to miss work, all the pain and physical/mental suffering (my 
outbreaks are terrible and unforgiving, with swollen lymph nodes and fever 
symptoms)...and if only I could get some cannabis oil, I may no longer have to 
suffer. I'll hold out hope. 
Once again, thank you Amani, for your incredibly vast amount of knowledge. You 
literally saved my cat's life, and maybe some day, your shared knowledge will 
save me from the agony of cold sores. 

Amy

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 21, 2017, at 12:42 PM, Amani Oakley <aoak...@oakleylegal.com> wrote:
> 
> Cannabis is an absolutely amazing product. Do your own research. You will see 
> very solid scientific evidence that backs up the many positive effects this 
> substance has. In fact, I was pretty enraged when I did the research. It is 
> clear that the decision to ban this substance was fraught with racial 
> overtones, and was introduced simply because after the demise of prohibition, 
> the government agency tasked with enforcing prohibition, needed a new 
> mandate. It is also appalling that because of this ill-conceived war on 
> drugs, and placing cannabis on Schedule 1 in the United States, virtually all 
> scientific testing was either banned completely, or faced so many obstacles, 
> that most scientists avoided doing any research on it at all. Thus, much of 
> the scientific studies come from Spain and Israel. Oddly enough, when a 
> pharmaceutical company decided to extract one of the key substances from the 
> cannabis plant and market it as Marinol, it suddenly went from having no 
> known medicinal qualities (the criteria to have it listed in Schedule 1) to 
> being a very effective drug which can be marketed and can make lots of money 
> for the drug company.
> 
> Do your own research. There is tons of stuff on the internet. There are 
> Harvard professors and top-notch researchers turning out excellent, amazing 
> research regarding the healing powers of this substance.
> 
> Oh, and the reason why so many of the States are now recognizing it for its 
> medicinal qualities and legalizing it, is because it is unbelievably 
> effective in helping young children suffering from severe forms of epilepsy 
> where they literally convulse hundreds of times an hour, and the only 
> medications heretofore even slightly effective would put these children into 
> complete zombie states. Cannabis not only relieves the unbearable non-stop 
> seizures, but doesn’t affect the children's level of consciousness. Parents 
> in states which have not legalized marijuana have literally moved their whole 
> families to other states to access medical marijuana when they have children 
> suffering these syndromes. Even Republicans have in some instances been moved 
> to back bills legalizing medical marijuana, when they have been confronted 
> with these suffering children. Medical marijuana has also been found to be 
> very effective for PTSD states, such as those suffered by servicemen and 
> women who have served overseas and have witnessed traumatic events. 
> 
> With respect to cancer therapy, one of the worst cancers is the glioma which 
> occurs in the brain. With such a diagnosis, most patients were dead within 6 
> months. Spanish researchers have recently shown that in mice with 
> experimentally-induced gliomas, and treated with cannabinoids, 1/3 showed 
> complete resolution of the glioma, 1/3 showed a standstill in the development 
> of the glioma, and 1/3 showed no improvement. Given that nothing else has 
> been found to be consistently helpful in treating gliomas, these results are 
> nothing short of earth-shattering. 
> 
> Read and learn. I cry when I think of all the people who might have been 
> helped if not for the conspiracy related to this drug. It is deeply deeply 
> disturbing.
> 
> Amani
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
> dlg...@windstream.net
> Sent: June-21-17 4:26 AM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Cc: ROBERT CHAPEL
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine
> 
> I agree on the cannibinol.  I wonder if maybe some of this is to justify 
> making it legal saying it is for medical reasons.  It can't be all that 
> wonderful, nothing is and when someone tells me that, I get suspicious.
> 
>  ROBE

Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine

[Amani Oakley]

Cannabis is an absolutely amazing product. Do your own research. You will see 
very solid scientific evidence that backs up the many positive effects this 
substance has. In fact, I was pretty enraged when I did the research. It is 
clear that the decision to ban this substance was fraught with racial 
overtones, and was introduced simply because after the demise of prohibition, 
the government agency tasked with enforcing prohibition, needed a new mandate. 
It is also appalling that because of this ill-conceived war on drugs, and 
placing cannabis on Schedule 1 in the United States, virtually all scientific 
testing was either banned completely, or faced so many obstacles, that most 
scientists avoided doing any research on it at all. Thus, much of the 
scientific studies come from Spain and Israel. Oddly enough, when a 
pharmaceutical company decided to extract one of the key substances from the 
cannabis plant and market it as Marinol, it suddenly went from having no known 
medicinal qualities (the criteria to have it listed in Schedule 1) to being a 
very effective drug which can be marketed and can make lots of money for the 
drug company.

Do your own research. There is tons of stuff on the internet. There are Harvard 
professors and top-notch researchers turning out excellent, amazing research 
regarding the healing powers of this substance.

Oh, and the reason why so many of the States are now recognizing it for its 
medicinal qualities and legalizing it, is because it is unbelievably effective 
in helping young children suffering from severe forms of epilepsy where they 
literally convulse hundreds of times an hour, and the only medications 
heretofore even slightly effective would put these children into complete 
zombie states. Cannabis not only relieves the unbearable non-stop seizures, but 
doesn’t affect the children's level of consciousness. Parents in states which 
have not legalized marijuana have literally moved their whole families to other 
states to access medical marijuana when they have children suffering these 
syndromes. Even Republicans have in some instances been moved to back bills 
legalizing medical marijuana, when they have been confronted with these 
suffering children. Medical marijuana has also been found to be very effective 
for PTSD states, such as those suffered by servicemen and women who have served 
overseas and have witnessed traumatic events. 

With respect to cancer therapy, one of the worst cancers is the glioma which 
occurs in the brain. With such a diagnosis, most patients were dead within 6 
months. Spanish researchers have recently shown that in mice with 
experimentally-induced gliomas, and treated with cannabinoids, 1/3 showed 
complete resolution of the glioma, 1/3 showed a standstill in the development 
of the glioma, and 1/3 showed no improvement. Given that nothing else has been 
found to be consistently helpful in treating gliomas, these results are nothing 
short of earth-shattering. 

Read and learn. I cry when I think of all the people who might have been helped 
if not for the conspiracy related to this drug. It is deeply deeply disturbing.

Amani

-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
dlg...@windstream.net
Sent: June-21-17 4:26 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Cc: ROBERT CHAPEL
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine

I agree on the cannibinol.  I wonder if maybe some of this is to justify making 
it legal saying it is for medical reasons.  It can't be all that wonderful, 
nothing is and when someone tells me that, I get suspicious.

 ROBERT CHAPEL <bcha...@optonline.net> wrote: 
> 


Amy
I'm not able to link to the article simply because it was not something I held 
on to...  At the time I had two FeLV+ young cats and I did NOT want to hear 
that one of the few things that I COULD do for them was useless  I 
mentioned it to a couple of vets who were rather insistent that it IS 
useful  Yes/No Maybe so  : )  I chose to believe and did not make a point 
of keeping the article for reference...  and Amani ( if you happen to read 
this)  I am getting hopeful about all of the uses of cannabinol ( though I AM 
suspect when something is said to be useful for everything from Cancer to 
Transmission Trouble in Oldsmobiles)...  With all the Hoopla there must be a 
pony in there somewhere..


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Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine

[dlgegg]

I agree on the cannibinol.  I wonder if maybe some of this is to justify making 
it legal saying it is for medical reasons.  It can't be all that wonderful, 
nothing is and when someone tells me that, I get suspicious.

 ROBERT CHAPEL  wrote: 
> 


Amy
I'm not able to link to the article simply because it was not something 
I held on to...  At the time I had two FeLV+ young cats and I did NOT 
want to hear that one of the few things that I COULD do for them was 
useless  I mentioned it to a couple of vets who were rather 
insistent that it IS useful  Yes/No Maybe so  : )  I chose to 
believe and did not make a point of keeping the article for 
reference...  and Amani ( if you happen to read this)  I am getting 
hopeful about all of the uses of cannabinol ( though I AM suspect when 
something is said to be useful for everything from Cancer to 
Transmission Trouble in Oldsmobiles)...  With all the Hoopla there must 
be a pony in there somewhere..


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Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine

[ROBERT CHAPEL]

Amy
I'm not able to link to the article simply because it was not something 
I held on to...  At the time I had two FeLV+ young cats and I did NOT 
want to hear that one of the few things that I COULD do for them was 
useless  I mentioned it to a couple of vets who were rather 
insistent that it IS useful  Yes/No Maybe so  : )  I chose to 
believe and did not make a point of keeping the article for 
reference...  and Amani ( if you happen to read this)  I am getting 
hopeful about all of the uses of cannabinol ( though I AM suspect when 
something is said to be useful for everything from Cancer to 
Transmission Trouble in Oldsmobiles)...  With all the Hoopla there must 
be a pony in there somewhere..



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Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine

[Ardy Robertson]

Where would one purchase cannabis oil? I have actually never had a cold sore, 
but I was thinking if it works for that, it might be good for other stuff too…….

 

Thank you,

Ardy Robertson, Clerk

Town of Garfield – Jackson County, WI

N14438 Valleybrook Ln

Osseo  WI  54758

715-533-0661

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amani 
Oakley
Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2017 3:15 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine

 

Actually, to be honest, what I found stopped my cold sore in its tracks and it 
has NEVER returned was cannabis oil. It was remarkable. The cold sore 
disappeared after I applied the oil to the sore overnight, and I have never had 
a reoccurrence since – I think it has been over a year or close to two now. 

 

Amani

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Pam 
Doore
Sent: June-20-17 4:11 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org <mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine

 

I too use lysine for canker sores and I give the gel form to my cats. I amVERY 
pleased with quick response.

On Jun 20, 2017 3:26 PM, "Gloria" <gloriajh...@verizon.net 
<mailto:gloriajh...@verizon.net> > wrote:

Personally- it's L Lysine & I use it to protect myself against the herpes virus 
- it works for me no doubt about effectiveness!!

-g 
Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 20, 2017, at 12:04 PM, ROBERT CHAPEL <bcha...@optonline.net 
> <mailto:bcha...@optonline.net> > wrote:
>
> I too have read " A" study insisting that Lysine is of little value for 
> Herpes...  don't know if there is a lot of data about it's ineffectiveness 
> but vets I have gone to insist that it IS effective   I'd prefer to " 
> believe" at this point rather than to feel helpless... there are other 
> anti-virals one can use but they are rather expensive and have their share of 
> side effects  Once again... have to weight the benefits against the 
> drawbacks.
>
>
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>> Lycine is supposed to suppress, not eliminate, reproduction of the virus.  
>> Apparently it has been in use for decades.  It is an amino acid, so not 
>> harmful.  Googling just now I found a study that says it does not work.  
>> Nevertheless, I am going to use it to try and protect my other cats. 
>> Destiny's infection was never cultured, so might not be Herpe's anyway.  
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[dlgegg]

That is the important thing, did it work for you.  That is how I judge nay 
thing I take.

 Marilyn Knapp Litt <mari...@marilynlitt.com> wrote: 
> Well put!  My philosophy exactly.  I am doing what I can and what can I do if 
> I accept that common remedies do not work?  For example I take quinine for my 
> restless legs.  The FDA ruled it does not work . . . but it works for me . . 
> . 
> 
> Marilyn
> 
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> ROBERT CHAPEL
> Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2017 2:04 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine
> 
> I too have read " A" study insisting that Lysine is of little value for 
> Herpes...  don't know if there is a lot of data about it's ineffectiveness 
> but vets I have gone to insist that it IS effective   I'd prefer to " 
> believe" at this point rather than to feel helpless... there are other 
> anti-virals one can use but they are rather expensive and have their share of 
> side effects  Once again... 
> have to weight the benefits against the drawbacks.
> 
> 
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> > virus.  Apparently it has been in use for decades.  It is an amino 
> > acid, so not harmful.  Googling just now I found a study that says it 
> > does not work.  Nevertheless, I am going to use it to try and protect 
> > my other cats. Destiny's infection was never cultured, so might not be 
> > Herpe's anyway.  Antibiotic seems to not be working either.  I am 
> > feeding cat food with a syringe and she is going to the vet today for 
> > a consult on using steroids and Zander's Protocol.
> >
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> >
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> > Of Ardy Robertson
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> > May I ask ? what is lycine that was mentioned for use in water dishes 
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[Gloria]

Good to know about the oil, too! Thx!

-g 
Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 20, 2017, at 1:15 PM, Amani Oakley <aoak...@oakleylegal.com> wrote:
> 
> Actually, to be honest, what I found stopped my cold sore in its tracks and 
> it has NEVER returned was cannabis oil. It was remarkable. The cold sore 
> disappeared after I applied the oil to the sore overnight, and I have never 
> had a reoccurrence since – I think it has been over a year or close to two 
> now.
>  
> Amani
>  
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Pam 
> Doore
> Sent: June-20-17 4:11 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine
>  
> I too use lysine for canker sores and I give the gel form to my cats. I 
> amVERY pleased with quick response.
> 
> On Jun 20, 2017 3:26 PM, "Gloria" <gloriajh...@verizon.net> wrote:
> Personally- it's L Lysine & I use it to protect myself against the herpes 
> virus - it works for me no doubt about effectiveness!!
> 
> -g 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Jun 20, 2017, at 12:04 PM, ROBERT CHAPEL <bcha...@optonline.net> wrote:
> >
> > I too have read " A" study insisting that Lysine is of little value for 
> > Herpes...  don't know if there is a lot of data about it's ineffectiveness 
> > but vets I have gone to insist that it IS effective   I'd prefer to " 
> > believe" at this point rather than to feel helpless... there are other 
> > anti-virals one can use but they are rather expensive and have their share 
> > of side effects  Once again... have to weight the benefits against the 
> > drawbacks.
> >
> >
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> >> Apparently it has been in use for decades.  It is an amino acid, so not 
> >> harmful.  Googling just now I found a study that says it does not work.  
> >> Nevertheless, I am going to use it to try and protect my other cats. 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine

[Amani Oakley]

Actually, to be honest, what I found stopped my cold sore in its tracks and it 
has NEVER returned was cannabis oil. It was remarkable. The cold sore 
disappeared after I applied the oil to the sore overnight, and I have never had 
a reoccurrence since – I think it has been over a year or close to two now.

Amani

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Doore
Sent: June-20-17 4:11 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine


I too use lysine for canker sores and I give the gel form to my cats. I amVERY 
pleased with quick response.
On Jun 20, 2017 3:26 PM, "Gloria" 
<gloriajh...@verizon.net<mailto:gloriajh...@verizon.net>> wrote:
Personally- it's L Lysine & I use it to protect myself against the herpes virus 
- it works for me no doubt about effectiveness!!

-g 
Sent from my iPhone

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> <bcha...@optonline.net<mailto:bcha...@optonline.net>> wrote:
>
> I too have read " A" study insisting that Lysine is of little value for 
> Herpes...  don't know if there is a lot of data about it's ineffectiveness 
> but vets I have gone to insist that it IS effective   I'd prefer to " 
> believe" at this point rather than to feel helpless... there are other 
> anti-virals one can use but they are rather expensive and have their share of 
> side effects  Once again... have to weight the benefits against the 
> drawbacks.
>
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>> Lycine is supposed to suppress, not eliminate, reproduction of the virus.  
>> Apparently it has been in use for decades.  It is an amino acid, so not 
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>> Nevertheless, I am going to use it to try and protect my other cats. 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine

[Amani Oakley]

But Amy, I think that's what someone mentioned earlier. It is effective is 
holding the virus in abeyance, but not in killing the virus. I think if you are 
dealing with an aggressive virus, it may not be all that effective, but I agree 
that there doesn't seem to be any downside risk to using it, so why not.

Amani

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Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine

Bob, I'm curious if you could link to the study you mention. I've been taking 
lysine for years to help with my cold sores and I find that it most definitely 
IS effective at helping suppress them. Maybe it's different for animals. 

Sent from my iPhone

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> 
> I too have read " A" study insisting that Lysine is of little value for 
> Herpes...  don't know if there is a lot of data about it's ineffectiveness 
> but vets I have gone to insist that it IS effective   I'd prefer to " 
> believe" at this point rather than to feel helpless... there are other 
> anti-virals one can use but they are rather expensive and have their share of 
> side effects  Once again... have to weight the benefits against the 
> drawbacks.
> 
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>> Lycine is supposed to suppress, not eliminate, reproduction of the virus.  
>> Apparently it has been in use for decades.  It is an amino acid, so not 
>> harmful.  Googling just now I found a study that says it does not work.  
>> Nevertheless, I am going to use it to try and protect my other cats. 
>> Destiny's infection was never cultured, so might not be Herpe's anyway.  
>> Antibiotic seems to not be working either.  I am feeding cat food with a 
>> syringe and she is going to the vet today for a consult on using steroids 
>> and Zander's Protocol.
>> 
>> 
>> Marilyn
>> 
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>> May I ask ? what is lycine that was mentioned for use in water dishes 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine

[Pam Doore]

I too use lysine for canker sores and I give the gel form to my cats. I
amVERY pleased with quick response.
On Jun 20, 2017 3:26 PM, "Gloria"  wrote:

> Personally- it's L Lysine & I use it to protect myself against the herpes
> virus - it works for me no doubt about effectiveness!!
>
> -g 
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jun 20, 2017, at 12:04 PM, ROBERT CHAPEL 
> wrote:
> >
> > I too have read " A" study insisting that Lysine is of little value for
> Herpes...  don't know if there is a lot of data about it's ineffectiveness
> but vets I have gone to insist that it IS effective   I'd prefer to "
> believe" at this point rather than to feel helpless... there are other
> anti-virals one can use but they are rather expensive and have their share
> of side effects  Once again... have to weight the benefits against the
> drawbacks.
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> >> Lycine is supposed to suppress, not eliminate, reproduction of the
> virus.  Apparently it has been in use for decades.  It is an amino acid, so
> not harmful.  Googling just now I found a study that says it does not
> work.  Nevertheless, I am going to use it to try and protect my other cats.
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Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine

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Bob, I'm curious if you could link to the study you mention. I've been taking 
lysine for years to help with my cold sores and I find that it most definitely 
IS effective at helping suppress them. Maybe it's different for animals. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 20, 2017, at 2:04 PM, ROBERT CHAPEL  wrote:
> 
> I too have read " A" study insisting that Lysine is of little value for 
> Herpes...  don't know if there is a lot of data about it's ineffectiveness 
> but vets I have gone to insist that it IS effective   I'd prefer to " 
> believe" at this point rather than to feel helpless... there are other 
> anti-virals one can use but they are rather expensive and have their share of 
> side effects  Once again... have to weight the benefits against the 
> drawbacks.
> 
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>> Feline Antioxidant
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>> Lycine is supposed to suppress, not eliminate, reproduction of the virus.  
>> Apparently it has been in use for decades.  It is an amino acid, so not 
>> harmful.  Googling just now I found a study that says it does not work.  
>> Nevertheless, I am going to use it to try and protect my other cats. 
>> Destiny's infection was never cultured, so might not be Herpe's anyway.  
>> Antibiotic seems to not be working either.  I am feeding cat food with a 
>> syringe and she is going to the vet today for a consult on using steroids 
>> and Zander's Protocol.
>> 
>> 
>> Marilyn
>> 
>> 
>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
>> Ardy Robertson
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2017 7:09 AM
>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
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>> 
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>> May I ask ? what is lycine that was mentioned for use in water dishes (not 
>> that Topaz drinks out of dishes! But Peekers does.)
>> 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine

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Well put!  My philosophy exactly.  I am doing what I can and what can I do if I 
accept that common remedies do not work?  For example I take quinine for my 
restless legs.  The FDA ruled it does not work . . . but it works for me . . . 

Marilyn

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I too have read " A" study insisting that Lysine is of little value for 
Herpes...  don't know if there is a lot of data about it's ineffectiveness but 
vets I have gone to insist that it IS effective   I'd prefer to " believe" 
at this point rather than to feel helpless... there are other anti-virals one 
can use but they are rather expensive and have their share of side effects  
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> Lycine is supposed to suppress, not eliminate, reproduction of the 
> virus.  Apparently it has been in use for decades.  It is an amino 
> acid, so not harmful.  Googling just now I found a study that says it 
> does not work.  Nevertheless, I am going to use it to try and protect 
> my other cats. Destiny's infection was never cultured, so might not be 
> Herpe's anyway.  Antibiotic seems to not be working either.  I am 
> feeding cat food with a syringe and she is going to the vet today for 
> a consult on using steroids and Zander's Protocol.
>
>
> Marilyn
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> Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2017 7:09 AM
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> May I ask ? what is lycine that was mentioned for use in water dishes 
> (not that Topaz drinks out of dishes! But Peekers does.)
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Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine

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Personally- it's L Lysine & I use it to protect myself against the herpes virus 
- it works for me no doubt about effectiveness!!

-g 
Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 20, 2017, at 12:04 PM, ROBERT CHAPEL  wrote:
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> I too have read " A" study insisting that Lysine is of little value for 
> Herpes...  don't know if there is a lot of data about it's ineffectiveness 
> but vets I have gone to insist that it IS effective   I'd prefer to " 
> believe" at this point rather than to feel helpless... there are other 
> anti-virals one can use but they are rather expensive and have their share of 
> side effects  Once again... have to weight the benefits against the 
> drawbacks.
> 
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>> Lycine is supposed to suppress, not eliminate, reproduction of the virus.  
>> Apparently it has been in use for decades.  It is an amino acid, so not 
>> harmful.  Googling just now I found a study that says it does not work.  
>> Nevertheless, I am going to use it to try and protect my other cats. 
>> Destiny's infection was never cultured, so might not be Herpe's anyway.  
>> Antibiotic seems to not b


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Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine

[ROBERT CHAPEL]

I too have read " A" study insisting that Lysine is of little value for 
Herpes...  don't know if there is a lot of data about it's 
ineffectiveness but vets I have gone to insist that it IS 
effective   I'd prefer to " believe" at this point rather than to 
feel helpless... there are other anti-virals one can use but they are 
rather expensive and have their share of side effects  Once again... 
have to weight the benefits against the drawbacks.



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Lycine is supposed to suppress, not eliminate, reproduction of the 
virus.  Apparently it has been in use for decades.  It is an amino 
acid, so not harmful.  Googling just now I found a study that says it 
does not work.  Nevertheless, I am going to use it to try and protect 
my other cats. Destiny's infection was never cultured, so might not be 
Herpe's anyway.  Antibiotic seems to not be working either.  I am 
feeding cat food with a syringe and she is going to the vet today for 
a consult on using steroids and Zander's Protocol.



Marilyn


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May I ask ? what is lycine that was mentioned for use in water dishes 
(not that Topaz drinks out of dishes! But Peekers does.)



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Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine as a supplement

[dlgegg]

you used my favorite word, ammeliorating.  first job i had as secretary, my 
boss dictated a letter and he held the mic so close to his mustache, that i 
wasn't sure where to look in the dictionary to find it.  i have never forgotten 
this word.  dorlis
 patricia.a.elk...@gsk.com wrote: 
 My vet opthamologist here in Philly, Dr. Glickstein, told me that he was 
 aware of only one
 controlled study on the effects of L-lysine on herpes.  He said that the 
 study showed that
 L-lysine did keep cats from getting their first herpes infection but that 
 it had absolutely no
 effect on subsequent infections or outbreaks.  Apparently these are not 
 the same results
 that are seen in human trials where it is belived to be effective on 
 continuing outbreaks.
 
 I know that many many people believe that they have seen results with its 
 use in cats however
 in ammeliorating a herpes outbreak.
 
 
 L-lysine is not a general immune booster, it is primarily effective 
 against
 herpes virus (which sometimes causes URI like symptoms and runny eyes) by
 suppressing the L-arginine that herpes virus needs in order to replicate.
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Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine as a supplement

[MaryChristine]

seems odd that it should be so widely used in veterinary medicine if there
is only one study published.

anyone on the fanciers health list? i know it's been spoken of often there,
and i know that a number of years back, one of the california vet assns
recommended that ALL cats, symptomatic or not, be given lysine as a
supplement.

and i think that everyone on this list knows not to take everything a vet
says, no matter how well-meaning they may, as the final word. or most of us
would have killed our FeLVs upon the first ELISSA result. just talked with
someone last weekend who was worried about her FIP-exposed cats

in a sanctuary setting, where we tried many many supplements and alternative
treatments, as well as standard ones, the one that was ABSOLUTELY EFFECTIVE
was the addition of lysine. anecdotal? of course.





On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 12:07 PM, Gloria B. Lane gbl...@aristotle.netwrote:

 Interesting - we should look around for studies (in our spare time lol).
  One study does not the truth make, just becomes an invitation for another
 study. But that's very interesting.

 Let's see - I think the Herpes virus is supposed to feed on L-Arginine, so
 increasing the ration of L-Lysine to L-Arginine is supposed to lessen the
 Herpes virus. So does seem to make sense.  Seems to work for my cats.

 Gloria




 On Feb 9, 2009, at 10:32 AM, patricia.a.elk...@gsk.com wrote:

  My vet opthamologist here in Philly, Dr. Glickstein, told me that he was
 aware of only one
 controlled study on the effects of L-lysine on herpes.  He said that the
 study showed that
 L-lysine did keep cats from getting their first herpes infection but that
 it had absolutely no
 effect on subsequent infections or outbreaks.  Apparently these are not
 the same results
 that are seen in human trials where it is belived to be effective on
 continuing outbreaks.

 I know that many many people believe that they have seen results with its
 use in cats however
 in ammeliorating a herpes outbreak.


  L-lysine is not a general immune booster, it is primarily effective

 against

 herpes virus (which sometimes causes URI like symptoms and runny eyes) by
 suppressing the L-arginine that herpes virus needs in order to replicate.

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Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine as a supplement

[wendy]

I have personally witnessed Lysine clear up a corneal ulcer in my kitten that 
the meds the vet prescribed would not clear up.  She was off all other meds, on 
the lysine for 10-14 days, and it started going away.  Thank God because she'd 
already lost one eye to an ulcer before I adopted her.  I assume, but can't 
say, that both ulcers were most likely caused by the herpes virus.  

Plus, lysine is an amino acid and does boost the immune system (or at the very 
least maintains it) in the way it operates in the body.  It helps to build 
proteins, etc., as well as keep viruses from replicating.  This is what I wrote 
back in August regarding this issue:

There are 20 (or 21 depending on the source) different amino acids in our 
bodies.  One of them is L-lysine.  All cells in every organism (plants, 
animals, etc.) use these amino acids to make proteins.  A single antibody 
molecule (PART OF THE IMMUNE SYSTEM) contains about 1,400 amino acids+.  If our 
bodies are low in lysine (and remember, our bodies CANNOT make lysine {but 
plants can}), then a reduction in lysine would = a lowered immune system 
because the chain of proteins that make up the antibody molecules is weakened.  
Here is an article you can wade through that talks about antibodies: 
http://www.cehs.siu.edu/fix/medmicro/igs.htm  This is why lysine is given to 
people to help recuperate after surgery or injury as it is necessary for tissue 
repair and growth.  It's also necessary in the production of antibodies (used 
by the immune system to seek out and identify bacteria and viruses in our 
bodies).  It's a building block of our very
 cells.  And therefore it IS linked to the immune system, and I would assume, 
immune system boosting if the immune system is weak.  Every health food company 
that sells lysine quips that it is an immune system boosting amino 
acid.  Lysine deficiencies have been shown in HIV patients in Africa, so I 
think that it's possible that even though FeLV is not HIV, it is a virus, 
so maybe our furry friends may also be low in the essential amino acid because 
of the virus.  I don't think the studies have been done on this particular 
issue.  And if anyone knows of any, please post them.  As I said before, I'm 
not a doctor, vet, or scientist.  But I can research, read, and use my common 
sense to make logical inferences.  I don't believe there are any studies to 
show that link lysine to the immune system because, from what I understand, 
it's common knowledge in the science/medical world.  It would be like trying to 
find studies linking blood to the
 heart.

:)
Wendy
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the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade 
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From: gary gcru...@centurytel.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Monday, February 9, 2009 1:16:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine as a supplement

I can't comment on the study as I haven't seen it, but lysine is recommended
by many feline opthamologists for the treatment of herpes.  It is also in
the Merck Veterinary Manual.

Also, I have 2 cats with this condition and lysine keeps their eyes clear.
If I stop the lysine the eyes get runny again.

Gary

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
patricia.a.elk...@gsk.com
Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 10:32 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine as a supplement

My vet opthamologist here in Philly, Dr. Glickstein, told me that he was 
aware of only one
controlled study on the effects of L-lysine on herpes.  He said that the 
study showed that
L-lysine did keep cats from getting their first herpes infection but that 
it had absolutely no
effect on subsequent infections or outbreaks.  Apparently these are not 
the same results
that are seen in human trials where it is belived to be effective on 
continuing outbreaks.

I know that many many people believe that they have seen results with its 
use in cats however
in ammeliorating a herpes outbreak.


L-lysine is not a general immune booster, it is primarily effective 
against
herpes virus (which sometimes causes URI like symptoms and runny eyes) by
suppressing the L-arginine that herpes virus needs in order to replicate.
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Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine as a supplement

[Patricia . A . Elkins]

My vet opthamologist here in Philly, Dr. Glickstein, told me that he was 
aware of only one
controlled study on the effects of L-lysine on herpes.  He said that the 
study showed that
L-lysine did keep cats from getting their first herpes infection but that 
it had absolutely no
effect on subsequent infections or outbreaks.  Apparently these are not 
the same results
that are seen in human trials where it is belived to be effective on 
continuing outbreaks.

I know that many many people believe that they have seen results with its 
use in cats however
in ammeliorating a herpes outbreak.


L-lysine is not a general immune booster, it is primarily effective 
against
herpes virus (which sometimes causes URI like symptoms and runny eyes) by
suppressing the L-arginine that herpes virus needs in order to replicate.
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Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine as a supplement

[Gloria B. Lane]

Interesting - we should look around for studies (in our spare time  
lol).  One study does not the truth make, just becomes an invitation  
for another study. But that's very interesting.


Let's see - I think the Herpes virus is supposed to feed on L- 
Arginine, so increasing the ration of L-Lysine to L-Arginine is  
supposed to lessen the Herpes virus. So does seem to make sense.   
Seems to work for my cats.


Gloria



On Feb 9, 2009, at 10:32 AM, patricia.a.elk...@gsk.com wrote:

My vet opthamologist here in Philly, Dr. Glickstein, told me that he  
was

aware of only one
controlled study on the effects of L-lysine on herpes.  He said that  
the

study showed that
L-lysine did keep cats from getting their first herpes infection but  
that

it had absolutely no
effect on subsequent infections or outbreaks.  Apparently these are  
not

the same results
that are seen in human trials where it is belived to be effective on
continuing outbreaks.

I know that many many people believe that they have seen results  
with its

use in cats however
in ammeliorating a herpes outbreak.



L-lysine is not a general immune booster, it is primarily effective

against
herpes virus (which sometimes causes URI like symptoms and runny  
eyes) by
suppressing the L-arginine that herpes virus needs in order to  
replicate.

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Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine as a supplement

[Jane Lyons]

I would bet on l-lycine. I tried everything that my allopathic vet  
recommended to get rid of a really bad upper
respiratory. I cannot remember the antibiotics she tried but nothing  
worked. Someone on this list
recommended l-lycine and although it took several weeks, it did work.  
I also think that the supplements that
I used worked as well. Since I was not using drugs or pharmaceuticals  
of any kind, I cannot imagine how
MeMe recovered from many severe symptoms if the supplements were not  
improving or supporting her immune

system.
Jane


On Feb 9, 2009, at 12:07 PM, Gloria B. Lane wrote:

Interesting - we should look around for studies (in our spare time  
lol).  One study does not the truth make, just becomes an  
invitation for another study. But that's very interesting.


Let's see - I think the Herpes virus is supposed to feed on L- 
Arginine, so increasing the ration of L-Lysine to L-Arginine is  
supposed to lessen the Herpes virus. So does seem to make sense.   
Seems to work for my cats.


Gloria



On Feb 9, 2009, at 10:32 AM, patricia.a.elk...@gsk.com wrote:

My vet opthamologist here in Philly, Dr. Glickstein, told me that  
he was

aware of only one
controlled study on the effects of L-lysine on herpes.  He said  
that the

study showed that
L-lysine did keep cats from getting their first herpes infection  
but that

it had absolutely no
effect on subsequent infections or outbreaks.  Apparently these  
are not

the same results
that are seen in human trials where it is belived to be effective on
continuing outbreaks.

I know that many many people believe that they have seen results  
with its

use in cats however
in ammeliorating a herpes outbreak.



L-lysine is not a general immune booster, it is primarily effective

against
herpes virus (which sometimes causes URI like symptoms and runny  
eyes) by
suppressing the L-arginine that herpes virus needs in order to  
replicate.

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Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine as a supplement

[Laurieskatz]

Works for mine.

-Original Message-
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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Gloria B. Lane
Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 11:08 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine as a supplement

Interesting - we should look around for studies (in our spare time  
lol).  One study does not the truth make, just becomes an invitation  
for another study. But that's very interesting.

Let's see - I think the Herpes virus is supposed to feed on L- 
Arginine, so increasing the ration of L-Lysine to L-Arginine is  
supposed to lessen the Herpes virus. So does seem to make sense.   
Seems to work for my cats.

Gloria



On Feb 9, 2009, at 10:32 AM, patricia.a.elk...@gsk.com wrote:

 My vet opthamologist here in Philly, Dr. Glickstein, told me that he  
 was
 aware of only one
 controlled study on the effects of L-lysine on herpes.  He said that  
 the
 study showed that
 L-lysine did keep cats from getting their first herpes infection but  
 that
 it had absolutely no
 effect on subsequent infections or outbreaks.  Apparently these are  
 not
 the same results
 that are seen in human trials where it is belived to be effective on
 continuing outbreaks.

 I know that many many people believe that they have seen results  
 with its
 use in cats however
 in ammeliorating a herpes outbreak.


 L-lysine is not a general immune booster, it is primarily effective
 against
 herpes virus (which sometimes causes URI like symptoms and runny  
 eyes) by
 suppressing the L-arginine that herpes virus needs in order to  
 replicate.
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Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine as a supplement

[gary]

I can't comment on the study as I haven't seen it, but lysine is recommended
by many feline opthamologists for the treatment of herpes.  It is also in
the Merck Veterinary Manual.

Also, I have 2 cats with this condition and lysine keeps their eyes clear.
If I stop the lysine the eyes get runny again.

Gary

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
patricia.a.elk...@gsk.com
Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 10:32 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine as a supplement

My vet opthamologist here in Philly, Dr. Glickstein, told me that he was 
aware of only one
controlled study on the effects of L-lysine on herpes.  He said that the 
study showed that
L-lysine did keep cats from getting their first herpes infection but that 
it had absolutely no
effect on subsequent infections or outbreaks.  Apparently these are not 
the same results
that are seen in human trials where it is belived to be effective on 
continuing outbreaks.

I know that many many people believe that they have seen results with its 
use in cats however
in ammeliorating a herpes outbreak.


L-lysine is not a general immune booster, it is primarily effective 
against
herpes virus (which sometimes causes URI like symptoms and runny eyes) by
suppressing the L-arginine that herpes virus needs in order to replicate.
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Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine and immune system boosting: my view

[wendy]

Hi Gary and all,
I want to explain why I believe lysine to be an immune system booster so maybe 
we can stop going back and forth on the issue:
There are 20 (or 21 depending on the source) different amino acids in our 
bodies.  One of them is L-lysine.  All cells in every organism (plants, 
animals, etc.) use these amino acids to make proteins.  A single antibody 
molecule (PART OF THE IMMUNE SYSTEM) contains about 1,400 amino acids+.  If our 
bodies are low in lysine (and remember, our bodies CANNOT make lysine {but 
plants can}), then a reduction in lysine would = a lowered immune system 
because the chain of proteins that make up the antibody molecules is weakened.  
Here is an article you can wade through that talks about antibodies: 
http://www.cehs.siu.edu/fix/medmicro/igs.htm  This is why lysine is given to 
people to help recuperate after surgery or injury as it is necessary for tissue 
repair and growth.  It's also necessary in the production of antibodies (used 
by the immune system to seek out and identify bacteria and viruses in our 
bodies).  It's a building block of our very cells. 
 And therefore it IS linked to the immune system, and I would assume, immune 
system boosting if the immune system is weak.  Every health food company that 
sells lysine quips that it is an immune system boosting amino acid.  Lysine 
deficiencies have been shown in HIV patients in Africa, so I think that it's 
possible that even though FeLV is not HIV, it is a virus, so maybe our furry 
friends may also be low in the essential amino acid because of the virus.  I 
don't think the studies have been done on this particular issue.  And if anyone 
knows of any, please post them.  As I said before, I'm not a doctor, vet, or 
scientist.  But I can research, read, and use my common sense to make logical 
inferences.  I don't believe there are any studies to show that link lysine to 
the immune system because, from what I understand, it's common knowledge in the 
science/medical world.  It would be like trying to find studies linking blood 
to the heart.
If someone here is a biomedical student, doctor, expert researcher, etc., and 
you do not agree with what I've written above, please explain to me why this is 
not true.  I absolutely welcome respectful discourse on this matter.
And I want to say that regardless of whether I am wrong on this, pure lysine 
cannot be overdosed (because like Vitamin C, it's water-soluble), and is all 
natural, so is not bad for cats.  All it can do is help.
Thanks!
:)
Wendy
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- Original Message 
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Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2008 12:52:45 PM
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I have recently heard that l-lysine is only effective against the herpes 
virus because it reduces the amount of l-arginine that the herpes virus 
needs in order to replicate.

Supposedly, there is no evidence that l-lysine is a general immune booster. 
I know that many people give it as a supplement and it is well tolerated by 
cats so there is no harm in giving it.  If anyone knows of a study that 
shows l-lysine is a general immune booster, please give me the link, I would 
be very interested in reading about it.

Thanks,

Gary

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 Welcome to the group Jody! So glad you hear your kitties are healthy! I 
 feed mine Innova Evo. I would also suggest pure L-Lysine as a supplement. 
 It's an immune system booster, comes in a tasteless powder form, and is 
 easy to mix into wet food.
 :)
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Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine and immune system boosting: my view

[Sherry DeHaan]

Hi Wendy, when Maizee was getting chemo treatments they had me giving her 
Lysine also to help her immune system.

--- On Sat, 8/23/08, wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

From: wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine and immune system boosting: my view
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Saturday, August 23, 2008, 11:17 AM

Hi Gary and all,
I want to explain why I believe lysine to be an immune system booster so
maybe we can stop going back and forth on the issue:
There are 20 (or 21 depending on the source) different amino acids in our
bodies.  One of them is L-lysine.  All cells in every organism (plants,
animals, etc.) use these amino acids to make proteins.  A single antibody
molecule (PART OF THE IMMUNE SYSTEM) contains about 1,400 amino acids+.  If our
bodies are low in lysine (and remember, our bodies CANNOT make lysine {but
plants can}), then a reduction in lysine would = a lowered immune system because
the chain of proteins that make up the antibody molecules is weakened.  Here is
an article you can wade through that talks about antibodies:
http://www.cehs.siu.edu/fix/medmicro/igs.htm  This is why lysine is given to
people to help recuperate after surgery or injury as it is necessary for tissue
repair and growth.  It's also necessary in the production of antibodies
(used by the immune system to seek out and identify bacteria and viruses in our
bodies).  It's a building block of our very cells. 
 And therefore it IS linked to the immune system, and I would assume, immune
system boosting if the immune system is weak.  Every health food company that
sells lysine quips that it is an immune system boosting amino acid.  Lysine
deficiencies have been shown in HIV patients in Africa, so I think that it's
possible that even though FeLV is not HIV, it is a virus, so maybe our furry
friends may also be low in the essential amino acid because of the virus.  I
don't think the studies have been done on this particular issue.  And if
anyone knows of any, please post them.  As I said before, I'm not a doctor,
vet, or scientist.  But I can research, read, and use my common sense to make
logical inferences.  I don't believe there are any studies to show that
link lysine to the immune system because, from what I understand, it's
common knowledge in the science/medical world.  It would be like trying to find
studies linking blood to the heart.
If someone here is a biomedical student, doctor, expert researcher, etc., and
you do not agree with what I've written above, please explain to me why
this is not true.  I absolutely welcome respectful discourse on this matter.
And I want to say that regardless of whether I am wrong on this, pure lysine
cannot be overdosed (because like Vitamin C, it's water-soluble), and is all
natural, so is not bad for cats.  All it can do is help.
Thanks!
:)
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- Original Message 
From: gary [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2008 12:52:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New Here

I have recently heard that l-lysine is only effective against the herpes 
virus because it reduces the amount of l-arginine that the herpes virus 
needs in order to replicate.

Supposedly, there is no evidence that l-lysine is a general immune booster. 
I know that many people give it as a supplement and it is well tolerated by 
cats so there is no harm in giving it.  If anyone knows of a study that 
shows l-lysine is a general immune booster, please give me the link, I would 
be very interested in reading about it.

Thanks,

Gary

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Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2008 11:25 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New Here


 Welcome to the group Jody! So glad you hear your kitties are healthy! I 
 feed mine Innova Evo. I would also suggest pure L-Lysine as a supplement. 
 It's an immune system booster, comes in a tasteless powder form, and
is 
 easy to mix into wet food.
 :)
 Wendy


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Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine added to dry food?

[wendy]

I think maintenance is 250 mg once or twice a day.  500 mg once or twice a day 
for symptomatic kitties.  I would double-check this though in the archives or 
elsewhere.
:)
Wendy

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the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade 
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- Original Message 
From: Caroline Kaufmann [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 1:31:02 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Lysine added to dry food?


My felv+ foster Manny is going to his new home tonight (with lots of 
instructions, favorite toys, and probably some lingering anxiety from me!).  
Manny has been a finnicky canned food eater ever since I've had him- which has 
sucked b/c that is how I like to get supplements in him like lysine and added 
water.  But he loves loves loves the Eagle Pack Holistic Dry (which I have all 
my fosters on)--  LOVES IT.  As much I would like to convert all my cats to all 
canned- they just love their Eagle Pack dry too much.  And they have the most 
awesome coats- I get compliments on my fosters all the time- how good they 
look, none are fat, no dander, shiny, soft coats-- thus, I am very happy with 
the Holistic.  But all my fosters also get Holistic canned everyday, with water 
and supplements added, so I am sure that helps keeping them look great too.  
Manny will occasionally eat the Holistic canned, but he won't eat it in back to 
back feedings or two days in a
 row (he's nutty).  I originally tried to feed him a diet of Wellness canned 
only and he just stopped eating it totally (waste of expensive food)!  That is 
when I switched him to Eagle Pack.  So as far as sending him to his new home 
with feeding and supplment instructions, his new mom says she doesn't want to 
change anything b/c he looks so gorgeous and his coat is so wonderful, so she 
will keep him on the Holistic Dry.  I've asked that she occassionally give him 
some canned Holistic, but warned that he won't eat it 2 days in a row.  

I'd like to send her with instructions to add powdered Lysine to his dry food 
and was wondering if people thought this will work?  I have done it a few times 
with him and he seemed to not notice/care, but it hasn't been my primary way of 
administering lysine b/c I did keep up with giving him canned food every few 
days.  I think it will work tho b/c he loves his Holistic so much, I seriously 
doubt he won't eat it due to the Lysine powder.  Also, what is a good 
maintenance dose?  He is as healthy as a horse, so I just want to provide it to 
them as a preventative measure.  
thanks
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Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine added to dry food?

[Gloria B. Lane]

That's what I've always read.  250-500 mg twice daily (for 1 cat).

Gloria


At 10:34 AM 8/23/2008, wendy wrote:
I think maintenance is 250 mg once or twice a day.  500 mg once or 
twice a day for symptomatic kitties.  I would double-check this 
though in the archives or elsewhere.
:)
Wendy

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 can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever 
 has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~



- Original Message 
From: Caroline Kaufmann [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 1:31:02 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Lysine added to dry food?


My felv+ foster Manny is going to his new home tonight (with lots of 
instructions, favorite toys, and probably some lingering anxiety 
from me!).  Manny has been a finnicky canned food eater ever since 
I've had him- which has sucked b/c that is how I like to get 
supplements in him like lysine and added water.  But he loves loves 
loves the Eagle Pack Holistic Dry (which I have all my fosters 
on)--  LOVES IT.  As much I would like to convert all my cats to all 
canned- they just love their Eagle Pack dry too much.  And they have 
the most awesome coats- I get compliments on my fosters all the 
time- how good they look, none are fat, no dander, shiny, soft 
coats-- thus, I am very happy with the Holistic.  But all my fosters 
also get Holistic canned everyday, with water and supplements added, 
so I am sure that helps keeping them look great too.  Manny will 
occasionally eat the Holistic canned, but he won't eat it in back to 
back feedings or two days in a
  row (he's nutty).  I originally tried to feed him a diet of 
 Wellness canned only and he just stopped eating it totally (waste 
 of expensive food)!  That is when I switched him to Eagle Pack.  So 
 as far as sending him to his new home with feeding and supplment 
 instructions, his new mom says she doesn't want to change anything 
 b/c he looks so gorgeous and his coat is so wonderful, so she will 
 keep him on the Holistic Dry.  I've asked that she occassionally 
 give him some canned Holistic, but warned that he won't eat it 2 
 days in a row.

I'd like to send her with instructions to add powdered Lysine to his 
dry food and was wondering if people thought this will work?  I have 
done it a few times with him and he seemed to not notice/care, but 
it hasn't been my primary way of administering lysine b/c I did keep 
up with giving him canned food every few days.  I think it will work 
tho b/c he loves his Holistic so much, I seriously doubt he won't 
eat it due to the Lysine powder.  Also, what is a good maintenance 
dose?  He is as healthy as a horse, so I just want to provide it to 
them as a preventative measure.
thanks
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Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine added to dry food?

[Gloria B. Lane]

That's what I've always read.  250-500 mg twice daily (for 1 cat).

Gloria


At 10:34 AM 8/23/2008, wendy wrote:
I think maintenance is 250 mg once or twice a day.  500 mg once or 
twice a day for symptomatic kitties.  I would double-check this 
though in the archives or elsewhere.
:)
Wendy

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 can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever 
 has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~



- Original Message 
From: Caroline Kaufmann [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 1:31:02 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Lysine added to dry food?


My felv+ foster Manny is going to his new home tonight (with lots of 
instructions, favorite toys, and probably some lingering anxiety 
from me!).  Manny has been a finnicky canned food eater ever since 
I've had him- which has sucked b/c that is how I like to get 
supplements in him like lysine and added water.  But he loves loves 
loves the Eagle Pack Holistic Dry (which I have all my fosters 
on)--  LOVES IT.  As much I would like to convert all my cats to all 
canned- they just love their Eagle Pack dry too much.  And they have 
the most awesome coats- I get compliments on my fosters all the 
time- how good they look, none are fat, no dander, shiny, soft 
coats-- thus, I am very happy with the Holistic.  But all my fosters 
also get Holistic canned everyday, with water and supplements added, 
so I am sure that helps keeping them look great too.  Manny will 
occasionally eat the Holistic canned, but he won't eat it in back to 
back feedings or two days in a
  row (he's nutty).  I originally tried to feed him a diet of 
 Wellness canned only and he just stopped eating it totally (waste 
 of expensive food)!  That is when I switched him to Eagle Pack.  So 
 as far as sending him to his new home with feeding and supplment 
 instructions, his new mom says she doesn't want to change anything 
 b/c he looks so gorgeous and his coat is so wonderful, so she will 
 keep him on the Holistic Dry.  I've asked that she occassionally 
 give him some canned Holistic, but warned that he won't eat it 2 
 days in a row.

I'd like to send her with instructions to add powdered Lysine to his 
dry food and was wondering if people thought this will work?  I have 
done it a few times with him and he seemed to not notice/care, but 
it hasn't been my primary way of administering lysine b/c I did keep 
up with giving him canned food every few days.  I think it will work 
tho b/c he loves his Holistic so much, I seriously doubt he won't 
eat it due to the Lysine powder.  Also, what is a good maintenance 
dose?  He is as healthy as a horse, so I just want to provide it to 
them as a preventative measure.
thanks
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Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine added to dry food?

[Gloria B. Lane]

That's what I've always read.  250-500 mg twice daily (for 1 cat).

Gloria


At 10:34 AM 8/23/2008, wendy wrote:
I think maintenance is 250 mg once or twice a day.  500 mg once or 
twice a day for symptomatic kitties.  I would double-check this 
though in the archives or elsewhere.
:)
Wendy

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 can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever 
 has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~



- Original Message 
From: Caroline Kaufmann [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 1:31:02 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Lysine added to dry food?


My felv+ foster Manny is going to his new home tonight (with lots of 
instructions, favorite toys, and probably some lingering anxiety 
from me!).  Manny has been a finnicky canned food eater ever since 
I've had him- which has sucked b/c that is how I like to get 
supplements in him like lysine and added water.  But he loves loves 
loves the Eagle Pack Holistic Dry (which I have all my fosters 
on)--  LOVES IT.  As much I would like to convert all my cats to all 
canned- they just love their Eagle Pack dry too much.  And they have 
the most awesome coats- I get compliments on my fosters all the 
time- how good they look, none are fat, no dander, shiny, soft 
coats-- thus, I am very happy with the Holistic.  But all my fosters 
also get Holistic canned everyday, with water and supplements added, 
so I am sure that helps keeping them look great too.  Manny will 
occasionally eat the Holistic canned, but he won't eat it in back to 
back feedings or two days in a
  row (he's nutty).  I originally tried to feed him a diet of 
 Wellness canned only and he just stopped eating it totally (waste 
 of expensive food)!  That is when I switched him to Eagle Pack.  So 
 as far as sending him to his new home with feeding and supplment 
 instructions, his new mom says she doesn't want to change anything 
 b/c he looks so gorgeous and his coat is so wonderful, so she will 
 keep him on the Holistic Dry.  I've asked that she occassionally 
 give him some canned Holistic, but warned that he won't eat it 2 
 days in a row.

I'd like to send her with instructions to add powdered Lysine to his 
dry food and was wondering if people thought this will work?  I have 
done it a few times with him and he seemed to not notice/care, but 
it hasn't been my primary way of administering lysine b/c I did keep 
up with giving him canned food every few days.  I think it will work 
tho b/c he loves his Holistic so much, I seriously doubt he won't 
eat it due to the Lysine powder.  Also, what is a good maintenance 
dose?  He is as healthy as a horse, so I just want to provide it to 
them as a preventative measure.
thanks
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Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine added to dry food?

[Gloria B. Lane]

That's what I've always read.  250-500 mg twice daily (for 1 cat).

Gloria


At 10:34 AM 8/23/2008, wendy wrote:
I think maintenance is 250 mg once or twice a day.  500 mg once or 
twice a day for symptomatic kitties.  I would double-check this 
though in the archives or elsewhere.
:)
Wendy

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 can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever 
 has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~



- Original Message 
From: Caroline Kaufmann [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 1:31:02 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Lysine added to dry food?


My felv+ foster Manny is going to his new home tonight (with lots of 
instructions, favorite toys, and probably some lingering anxiety 
from me!).  Manny has been a finnicky canned food eater ever since 
I've had him- which has sucked b/c that is how I like to get 
supplements in him like lysine and added water.  But he loves loves 
loves the Eagle Pack Holistic Dry (which I have all my fosters 
on)--  LOVES IT.  As much I would like to convert all my cats to all 
canned- they just love their Eagle Pack dry too much.  And they have 
the most awesome coats- I get compliments on my fosters all the 
time- how good they look, none are fat, no dander, shiny, soft 
coats-- thus, I am very happy with the Holistic.  But all my fosters 
also get Holistic canned everyday, with water and supplements added, 
so I am sure that helps keeping them look great too.  Manny will 
occasionally eat the Holistic canned, but he won't eat it in back to 
back feedings or two days in a
  row (he's nutty).  I originally tried to feed him a diet of 
 Wellness canned only and he just stopped eating it totally (waste 
 of expensive food)!  That is when I switched him to Eagle Pack.  So 
 as far as sending him to his new home with feeding and supplment 
 instructions, his new mom says she doesn't want to change anything 
 b/c he looks so gorgeous and his coat is so wonderful, so she will 
 keep him on the Holistic Dry.  I've asked that she occassionally 
 give him some canned Holistic, but warned that he won't eat it 2 
 days in a row.

I'd like to send her with instructions to add powdered Lysine to his 
dry food and was wondering if people thought this will work?  I have 
done it a few times with him and he seemed to not notice/care, but 
it hasn't been my primary way of administering lysine b/c I did keep 
up with giving him canned food every few days.  I think it will work 
tho b/c he loves his Holistic so much, I seriously doubt he won't 
eat it due to the Lysine powder.  Also, what is a good maintenance 
dose?  He is as healthy as a horse, so I just want to provide it to 
them as a preventative measure.
thanks
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[Felvtalk] Lysine added to dry food?

[Caroline Kaufmann]

My felv+ foster Manny is going to his new home tonight (with lots of 
instructions, favorite toys, and probably some lingering anxiety from me!).  
Manny has been a finnicky canned food eater ever since I've had him- which has 
sucked b/c that is how I like to get supplements in him like lysine and added 
water.  But he loves loves loves the Eagle Pack Holistic Dry (which I have all 
my fosters on)--  LOVES IT.  As much I would like to convert all my cats to all 
canned- they just love their Eagle Pack dry too much.  And they have the most 
awesome coats- I get compliments on my fosters all the time- how good they 
look, none are fat, no dander, shiny, soft coats-- thus, I am very happy with 
the Holistic.  But all my fosters also get Holistic canned everyday, with water 
and supplements added, so I am sure that helps keeping them look great too.  
Manny will occasionally eat the Holistic canned, but he won't eat it in back to 
back feedings or two days in a row (he's nutty).  I originally tried to feed 
him a diet of Wellness canned only and he just stopped eating it totally (waste 
of expensive food)!  That is when I switched him to Eagle Pack.  So as far as 
sending him to his new home with feeding and supplment instructions, his new 
mom says she doesn't want to change anything b/c he looks so gorgeous and his 
coat is so wonderful, so she will keep him on the Holistic Dry.  I've asked 
that she occassionally give him some canned Holistic, but warned that he won't 
eat it 2 days in a row.  
 
I'd like to send her with instructions to add powdered Lysine to his dry food 
and was wondering if people thought this will work?  I have done it a few times 
with him and he seemed to not notice/care, but it hasn't been my primary way of 
administering lysine b/c I did keep up with giving him canned food every few 
days.  I think it will work tho b/c he loves his Holistic so much, I seriously 
doubt he won't eat it due to the Lysine powder.  Also, what is a good 
maintenance dose?  He is as healthy as a horse, so I just want to provide it to 
them as a preventative measure.  
thanks
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Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine added to dry food?

[Kelley Saveika]

Hi Caroline,

I put the lysine in the water.   I don't know if it will work in dry food or
not.

Kelley


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Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine added to dry food?

[Caroline Kaufmann]

oh you do?  powdered lysine?  okay, I will have them do that.  That seems easy 
enough!  God, I am so excited and also so nervous and yet, so happy for Manny!  
I'm going to miss him.  He's my most gorgeous boy and the most friendly in the 
house, so now I will have no male-model cat to show off to people.  Sigh.
caroline
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 food?  Hi Caroline,  I put the lysine in the water. I don't know if it 
 will work in dry food or not.  Kelley   --  Rescuties - Saving the 
 world, one cat at a time.  http://www.rescuties.org  Vist the Rescuties 
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 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties*  Please help with some of our kitties 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine added to dry food?

[gary]

He will probably eat it ok but if he doesn't, just dissolve it in a little 
bit of water and put it on the dry food.  If he will eat the dry food 
without it, he will eat it with dissolved lysine, at least I have never had 
one refuse to eat it.  Some of mine did refuse to eat it before I dissolved 
it.

Gary

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Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 1:31 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Lysine added to dry food?



 My felv+ foster Manny is going to his new home tonight (with lots of 
 instructions, favorite toys, and probably some lingering anxiety from 
 me!).  Manny has been a finnicky canned food eater ever since I've had 
 him- which has sucked b/c that is how I like to get supplements in him 
 like lysine and added water.  But he loves loves loves the Eagle Pack 
 Holistic Dry (which I have all my fosters on)--  LOVES IT.  As much I 
 would like to convert all my cats to all canned- they just love their 
 Eagle Pack dry too much.  And they have the most awesome coats- I get 
 compliments on my fosters all the time- how good they look, none are fat, 
 no dander, shiny, soft coats-- thus, I am very happy with the Holistic. 
 But all my fosters also get Holistic canned everyday, with water and 
 supplements added, so I am sure that helps keeping them look great too. 
 Manny will occasionally eat the Holistic canned, but he won't eat it in 
 back to back feedings or two days in a row (he's nutty).  I originally 
 tried to feed him a diet of Wellness canned only and he just stopped 
 eating it totally (waste of expensive food)!  That is when I switched him 
 to Eagle Pack.  So as far as sending him to his new home with feeding and 
 supplment instructions, his new mom says she doesn't want to change 
 anything b/c he looks so gorgeous and his coat is so wonderful, so she 
 will keep him on the Holistic Dry.  I've asked that she occassionally give 
 him some canned Holistic, but warned that he won't eat it 2 days in a row.

 I'd like to send her with instructions to add powdered Lysine to his dry 
 food and was wondering if people thought this will work?  I have done it a 
 few times with him and he seemed to not notice/care, but it hasn't been my 
 primary way of administering lysine b/c I did keep up with giving him 
 canned food every few days.  I think it will work tho b/c he loves his 
 Holistic so much, I seriously doubt he won't eat it due to the Lysine 
 powder.  Also, what is a good maintenance dose?  He is as healthy as a 
 horse, so I just want to provide it to them as a preventative measure.
 thanks
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