Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine and immune system boosting: my view

2008-08-23 Thread wendy
Hi Gary and all,
I want to explain why I believe lysine to be an immune system booster so maybe 
we can stop going back and forth on the issue:
There are 20 (or 21 depending on the source) different amino acids in our 
bodies.  One of them is L-lysine.  All cells in every organism (plants, 
animals, etc.) use these amino acids to make proteins.  A single antibody 
molecule (PART OF THE IMMUNE SYSTEM) contains about 1,400 amino acids+.  If our 
bodies are low in lysine (and remember, our bodies CANNOT make lysine {but 
plants can}), then a reduction in lysine would = a lowered immune system 
because the chain of proteins that make up the antibody molecules is weakened.  
Here is an article you can wade through that talks about antibodies: 
http://www.cehs.siu.edu/fix/medmicro/igs.htm  This is why lysine is given to 
people to help recuperate after surgery or injury as it is necessary for tissue 
repair and growth.  It's also necessary in the production of antibodies (used 
by the immune system to seek out and identify bacteria and viruses in our 
bodies).  It's a building block of our very cells. 
 And therefore it IS linked to the immune system, and I would assume, immune 
system boosting if the immune system is weak.  Every health food company that 
sells lysine quips that it is an immune system boosting amino acid.  Lysine 
deficiencies have been shown in HIV patients in Africa, so I think that it's 
possible that even though FeLV is not HIV, it is a virus, so maybe our furry 
friends may also be low in the essential amino acid because of the virus.  I 
don't think the studies have been done on this particular issue.  And if anyone 
knows of any, please post them.  As I said before, I'm not a doctor, vet, or 
scientist.  But I can research, read, and use my common sense to make logical 
inferences.  I don't believe there are any studies to show that link lysine to 
the immune system because, from what I understand, it's common knowledge in the 
science/medical world.  It would be like trying to find studies linking blood 
to the heart.
If someone here is a biomedical student, doctor, expert researcher, etc., and 
you do not agree with what I've written above, please explain to me why this is 
not true.  I absolutely welcome respectful discourse on this matter.
And I want to say that regardless of whether I am wrong on this, pure lysine 
cannot be overdosed (because like Vitamin C, it's water-soluble), and is all 
natural, so is not bad for cats.  All it can do is help.
Thanks!
:)
Wendy
 Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change 
the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade 
~~~



- Original Message 
From: gary [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2008 12:52:45 PM
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I have recently heard that l-lysine is only effective against the herpes 
virus because it reduces the amount of l-arginine that the herpes virus 
needs in order to replicate.

Supposedly, there is no evidence that l-lysine is a general immune booster. 
I know that many people give it as a supplement and it is well tolerated by 
cats so there is no harm in giving it.  If anyone knows of a study that 
shows l-lysine is a general immune booster, please give me the link, I would 
be very interested in reading about it.

Thanks,

Gary

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From: wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2008 11:25 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New Here


 Welcome to the group Jody! So glad you hear your kitties are healthy! I 
 feed mine Innova Evo. I would also suggest pure L-Lysine as a supplement. 
 It's an immune system booster, comes in a tasteless powder form, and is 
 easy to mix into wet food.
 :)
 Wendy


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Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine and immune system boosting: my view

2008-08-23 Thread Sherry DeHaan
Hi Wendy, when Maizee was getting chemo treatments they had me giving her 
Lysine also to help her immune system.

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From: wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine and immune system boosting: my view
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Saturday, August 23, 2008, 11:17 AM

Hi Gary and all,
I want to explain why I believe lysine to be an immune system booster so
maybe we can stop going back and forth on the issue:
There are 20 (or 21 depending on the source) different amino acids in our
bodies.  One of them is L-lysine.  All cells in every organism (plants,
animals, etc.) use these amino acids to make proteins.  A single antibody
molecule (PART OF THE IMMUNE SYSTEM) contains about 1,400 amino acids+.  If our
bodies are low in lysine (and remember, our bodies CANNOT make lysine {but
plants can}), then a reduction in lysine would = a lowered immune system because
the chain of proteins that make up the antibody molecules is weakened.  Here is
an article you can wade through that talks about antibodies:
http://www.cehs.siu.edu/fix/medmicro/igs.htm  This is why lysine is given to
people to help recuperate after surgery or injury as it is necessary for tissue
repair and growth.  It's also necessary in the production of antibodies
(used by the immune system to seek out and identify bacteria and viruses in our
bodies).  It's a building block of our very cells. 
 And therefore it IS linked to the immune system, and I would assume, immune
system boosting if the immune system is weak.  Every health food company that
sells lysine quips that it is an immune system boosting amino acid.  Lysine
deficiencies have been shown in HIV patients in Africa, so I think that it's
possible that even though FeLV is not HIV, it is a virus, so maybe our furry
friends may also be low in the essential amino acid because of the virus.  I
don't think the studies have been done on this particular issue.  And if
anyone knows of any, please post them.  As I said before, I'm not a doctor,
vet, or scientist.  But I can research, read, and use my common sense to make
logical inferences.  I don't believe there are any studies to show that
link lysine to the immune system because, from what I understand, it's
common knowledge in the science/medical world.  It would be like trying to find
studies linking blood to the heart.
If someone here is a biomedical student, doctor, expert researcher, etc., and
you do not agree with what I've written above, please explain to me why
this is not true.  I absolutely welcome respectful discourse on this matter.
And I want to say that regardless of whether I am wrong on this, pure lysine
cannot be overdosed (because like Vitamin C, it's water-soluble), and is all
natural, so is not bad for cats.  All it can do is help.
Thanks!
:)
Wendy
 Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can
change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~
Margaret Meade ~~~



- Original Message 
From: gary [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2008 12:52:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New Here

I have recently heard that l-lysine is only effective against the herpes 
virus because it reduces the amount of l-arginine that the herpes virus 
needs in order to replicate.

Supposedly, there is no evidence that l-lysine is a general immune booster. 
I know that many people give it as a supplement and it is well tolerated by 
cats so there is no harm in giving it.  If anyone knows of a study that 
shows l-lysine is a general immune booster, please give me the link, I would 
be very interested in reading about it.

Thanks,

Gary

- Original Message - 
From: wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2008 11:25 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New Here


 Welcome to the group Jody! So glad you hear your kitties are healthy! I 
 feed mine Innova Evo. I would also suggest pure L-Lysine as a supplement. 
 It's an immune system booster, comes in a tasteless powder form, and
is 
 easy to mix into wet food.
 :)
 Wendy


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