Re: [Felvtalk] Recipe for stomatitis

2012-10-29 Thread moonsister22
Hi, Too sleepy to turn my computer back on so am sending from my iPod.  Would 
the stomatitis recipe work even if the cat is not on a raw food diet?  Has 
anyone tried it with success even when feeding regular cat food?

Sent from my iPod

On Oct 27, 2012, at 8:10 PM, Kathryn Hargreaves khargrea...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi, 
 
 Here it is:
 
 Holistic Stomatitis Protocol
 
 Note that holistic approaches take longer than do allopathic ones.   These 
 the supplements we've been using, but it doesn't mean some aren't optional.  
 What seemed to turn things around was one course of antibiotics along with 
 Coptis Purge Fire.  You may have to continue with Coptis Purge Fire forever.  
  We've just gotten rid of the stomatitis symptoms and have not tried stopping 
 the supplements.   It's better than extractions, which some say only work 50% 
 of the time, and are expensive and invasive to boot.
 
 
 Supplements
 Health Concerns  Coptis Purge Fire (2 tablets if 1 doesn't work)
 CoQ10  30mg (Dr. Clark)
 Vitamin A  25000 IU (Metagenics Mycelized Drops)
 Vitamin E (dry, no soy)  200 IU (may be optional)
 Lysine  500mg
 Standard Process Whole Body Support  1/2 to 1 tablet
 Standard Process Immune Support  1 tablet
 Tumeric  450mg   1/2 capsule  
 
 Can also try:
 Colostrum 100mg / Lactoferrin 10mg (separate from food)
 
 
 Palliative Homeopathy
 (as opposed to Classical)
 Mercurius 30C
 
 
 Meds
 Antibiotics if really, really bad infections.  Can do it once to get things 
 to a level at which the cat can recover with supplements.  Use probiotics 
 separately (that is, at least an hour apart) for stomach flora.
 
 
 Cleanings
 Non-anesthetic sonic cleanings to keep gums clean.  Don't feed ground bones 
 if they are getting caught in any gum pockets; use calcium carbonate 
 supplments instead to balance the Ca:Phos ratio (about 1400 mg per pound of 
 ground meat).
 
 
 Topical
 Oxyfresh in the water.
 
 
 Pus in gums: Myrhh. Make a dilution by adding 1 teaspoon of the tincture (the 
 alcoholic extract) to a cup of water. Gently apply this to the gums once or 
 twice a day. Either use a soft toothbrush or, if the gums are too sensitive 
 for this, flush the gums with this solution using a syringe.
 
 
 Diet
 Raw diet, per http://catnutrition.org   My recipe with local suppliers 
 available on request from khargrea...@gmail.com
 
 
 
 Developed with the help of Dr. Audra MacCorkle 
 http://holisticanimaldoctor.com  and the forum folks on http://holisticat.com
 
 
 On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 12:19 PM, Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote:
 I also have a cat with stomatitis, so I'd like to see your recipe
 too.
 
 Lorrie
 
 On 10-27, dot winkler wrote:
 Hi, Yes, I would love to know that holistic approach.
 The first vet there when I brought Tiger in, said he had stomatitis,
 chronic condition.  When I called vet yesterday, other vet said AIDS
 pos and that they pulled a lot of teeth and are giving anti b.  When I
 asked specifically if he has the stomatitis to her, she said that he is
 fine now so we have to wait and see if it recurs.
 Please send me that recipe for it.  I will give it to my sis in law who
 will be  taking the cat now.  Thanks so much.
 
 
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 If you can't bottle feed, foster an older animal, to save their life, and to 
 free up cage space.
 
 
 Ask your local animal pound to start saving over 90% of their intake by 
 implementing the No Kill Equation: 
 http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/no-kill-equation/
 
 Here's the current growing list of true No Kill communities: 
 http://www.no-killnews.com/ (see the right sidebar)
 
 Legislate better animal pound conditions: http://www.rescue50.org
 
 More fun reading: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/guides/
 
 More fun watching: http://vimeo.com/nokill/videos especially 
 http://vimeo.com/48445902
 
 
 
 Local feral cat crisis?   See Alley Cat Allies' for how to respond: 
 http://www.alleycat.org/page.aspx?pid=537
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Recipe for stomatitis

2012-10-29 Thread Marcia
This is very informative(: may I ask what antibiotics were used?

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On Oct 29, 2012, at 7:47 AM, moonsister22 moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Hi, Too sleepy to turn my computer back on so am sending from my iPod.  Would 
 the stomatitis recipe work even if the cat is not on a raw food diet?  Has 
 anyone tried it with success even when feeding regular cat food?
 
 Sent from my iPod
 
 On Oct 27, 2012, at 8:10 PM, Kathryn Hargreaves khargrea...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi, 
 
 Here it is:
 
 Holistic Stomatitis Protocol
 
 Note that holistic approaches take longer than do allopathic ones.   These 
 the supplements we've been using, but it doesn't mean some aren't optional.  
 What seemed to turn things around was one course of antibiotics along with 
 Coptis Purge Fire.  You may have to continue with Coptis Purge Fire forever. 
   We've just gotten rid of the stomatitis symptoms and have not tried 
 stopping the supplements.   It's better than extractions, which some say 
 only work 50% of the time, and are expensive and invasive to boot.
 
 
 Supplements
 Health Concerns  Coptis Purge Fire (2 tablets if 1 doesn't work)
 CoQ10  30mg (Dr. Clark)
 Vitamin A  25000 IU (Metagenics Mycelized Drops)
 Vitamin E (dry, no soy)  200 IU (may be optional)
 Lysine  500mg
 Standard Process Whole Body Support  1/2 to 1 tablet
 Standard Process Immune Support  1 tablet
 Tumeric  450mg   1/2 capsule  
 
 Can also try:
 Colostrum 100mg / Lactoferrin 10mg (separate from food)
 
 
 Palliative Homeopathy
 (as opposed to Classical)
 Mercurius 30C
 
 
 Meds
 Antibiotics if really, really bad infections.  Can do it once to get things 
 to a level at which the cat can recover with supplements.  Use probiotics 
 separately (that is, at least an hour apart) for stomach flora.
 
 
 Cleanings
 Non-anesthetic sonic cleanings to keep gums clean.  Don't feed ground bones 
 if they are getting caught in any gum pockets; use calcium carbonate 
 supplments instead to balance the Ca:Phos ratio (about 1400 mg per pound of 
 ground meat).
 
 
 Topical
 Oxyfresh in the water.
 
 
 Pus in gums: Myrhh. Make a dilution by adding 1 teaspoon of the tincture 
 (the alcoholic extract) to a cup of water. Gently apply this to the gums 
 once or twice a day. Either use a soft toothbrush or, if the gums are too 
 sensitive for this, flush the gums with this solution using a syringe.
 
 
 Diet
 Raw diet, per http://catnutrition.org   My recipe with local suppliers 
 available on request from khargrea...@gmail.com
 
 
 
 Developed with the help of Dr. Audra MacCorkle 
 http://holisticanimaldoctor.com  and the forum folks on http://holisticat.com
 
 
 On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 12:19 PM, Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote:
 I also have a cat with stomatitis, so I'd like to see your recipe
 too.
 
 Lorrie
 
 On 10-27, dot winkler wrote:
 Hi, Yes, I would love to know that holistic approach.
 The first vet there when I brought Tiger in, said he had stomatitis,
 chronic condition.  When I called vet yesterday, other vet said AIDS
 pos and that they pulled a lot of teeth and are giving anti b.  When I
 asked specifically if he has the stomatitis to her, she said that he is
 fine now so we have to wait and see if it recurs.
 Please send me that recipe for it.  I will give it to my sis in law who
 will be  taking the cat now.  Thanks so much.
 
 
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 Go Get a Life---Go Get a Shelter Animal!
 
 If you can't adopt, then foster bottle baby shelter animal, to save their 
 life.  Contact your local pound for information. 
 
 If you can't bottle feed, foster an older animal, to save their life, and to 
 free up cage space.
 
 
 Ask your local animal pound to start saving over 90% of their intake by 
 implementing the No Kill Equation: 
 http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/no-kill-equation/
 
 Here's the current growing list of true No Kill communities: 
 http://www.no-killnews.com/ (see the right sidebar)
 
 Legislate better animal pound conditions: http://www.rescue50.org
 
 More fun reading: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/guides/
 
 More fun watching: http://vimeo.com/nokill/videos especially 
 http://vimeo.com/48445902
 
 
 
 Local feral cat crisis?   See Alley Cat Allies' for how to respond: 
 http://www.alleycat.org/page.aspx?pid=537
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Recipe for stomatitis

2012-10-27 Thread Lorrie
I also have a cat with stomatitis, so I'd like to see your recipe
too.  

Lorrie

On 10-27, dot winkler wrote:
Hi, Yes, I would love to know that holistic approach.
The first vet there when I brought Tiger in, said he had stomatitis,
chronic condition.  When I called vet yesterday, other vet said AIDS
pos and that they pulled a lot of teeth and are giving anti b.  When I
asked specifically if he has the stomatitis to her, she said that he is
fine now so we have to wait and see if it recurs.
Please send me that recipe for it.  I will give it to my sis in law who
will be  taking the cat now.  Thanks so much.


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Re: [Felvtalk] Recipe for stomatitis

2012-10-27 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
Hi,

Here it is:

*Holistic Stomatitis Protocol*


Note that holistic approaches take longer than do allopathic ones.   These
the supplements we've been using, but it doesn't mean some aren't
optional.  What seemed to turn things around was one course of antibiotics
along with Coptis Purge Fire.  You may have to continue with Coptis Purge
Fire forever.   We've just gotten rid of the stomatitis symptoms and have
not tried stopping the supplements.   It's better than extractions, which
some say only work 50% of the time, and are expensive and invasive to boot.

**

**

*Supplements*

Health Concerns  Coptis Purge Fire (2 tablets if 1 doesn't work)

CoQ10  30mg (Dr. Clark)

Vitamin A  25000 IU (Metagenics Mycelized Drops)

Vitamin E (dry, no soy)  200 IU (may be optional)

Lysine  500mg

Standard Process Whole Body Support  1/2 to 1 tablet

Standard Process Immune Support  1 tablet

Tumeric  450mg   1/2 capsule


*Can also try:*

Colostrum 100mg / Lactoferrin 10mg (separate from food)



*Palliative Homeopathy*

(as opposed to Classical)

Mercurius 30C



*Meds*

Antibiotics if really, really bad infections.  Can do it once to get things
to a level at which the cat can recover with supplements.  Use probiotics
separately (that is, at least an hour apart) for stomach flora.



*Cleanings*

Non-anesthetic sonic cleanings to keep gums clean.  Don't feed ground bones
if they are getting caught in any gum pockets; use calcium carbonate
supplments instead to balance the Ca:Phos ratio (about 1400 mg per pound of
ground meat).



*Topical*

Oxyfresh in the water.



*Pus in gums:* Myrhh. Make a dilution by adding 1 teaspoon of the tincture
(the alcoholic extract) to a cup of water. Gently apply this to the gums
once or twice a day. Either use a soft toothbrush or, if the gums are too
sensitive for this, flush the gums with this solution using a syringe.



*Diet*

Raw diet, per http://catnutrition.org   My recipe with local suppliers
available on request from khargrea...@gmail.com




Developed with the help of Dr. Audra MacCorkle
http://holisticanimaldoctor.com  and the forum folks on
http://holisticat.com



On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 12:19 PM, Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote:

 I also have a cat with stomatitis, so I'd like to see your recipe
 too.

 Lorrie

 On 10-27, dot winkler wrote:
 Hi, Yes, I would love to know that holistic approach.
 The first vet there when I brought Tiger in, said he had stomatitis,
 chronic condition.  When I called vet yesterday, other vet said AIDS
 pos and that they pulled a lot of teeth and are giving anti b.  When
 I
 asked specifically if he has the stomatitis to her, she said that he
 is
 fine now so we have to wait and see if it recurs.
 Please send me that recipe for it.  I will give it to my sis in law
 who
 will be  taking the cat now.  Thanks so much.


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Go Get a Life---Go Get a Shelter Animal!

If you can't adopt, then foster bottle baby shelter animal, to save their
life.  Contact your local pound for information.
http://www.laanimalservices.com/volunteer_fostercare.htm

If you can't bottle feed, foster an older animal, to save their life, and
to free up cage space.


Ask your local animal pound to start saving over 90% of their intake by
implementing the No Kill Equation:
http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/no-kill-equation/http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/

Here's the current growing list of true No Kill communities:
http://www.no-killnews.com/ (see the right sidebar)

Legislate better animal pound conditions: http://www.rescue50.org

More fun reading: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/guides/

More fun watching: http://vimeo.com/nokill/videos especially
http://vimeo.com/48445902



Local feral cat crisis?   See Alley Cat Allies' for how to respond:
http://www.alleycat.org/page.aspx?pid=537
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