Re: [Felvtalk] campaign to get an felv cat to sanctuary

2013-09-15 Thread cerwin

Going through old mail...

I have visited there, and it is a nice place. The people who run it are
very caring.

Chris C.


-Original Message- 
From: dlg...@windstream.net

Sent: Monday, May 27, 2013 2:20 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] campaign to get an felv cat to sanctuary

You do have to be careful when choosing a place for your cats.  I have one, 
Rustic Hollow and they have provisions for FELV cats.  They do ask you give 
a set fee per cat per year of expected life.  It is not bad considering they 
have 6 or 7 houses for the cats with outdoor caticos.  They will provide the 
food your cats are used to, even my Blue Buffalo or Wellness.  I wouldn't 
even mind retiring there to one of the houses as a live in caretaker.  I 
have no family and I would have more than enough cats to love.




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Re: [Felvtalk] campaign to get an felv cat to sanctuary

2013-05-27 Thread dlgegg
You do have to be careful when choosing a place for your cats.  I have one, 
Rustic Hollow and they have provisions for FELV cats.  They do ask you give a 
set fee per cat per year of expected life.  It is not bad considering they have 
6 or 7 houses for the cats with outdoor caticos.  They will provide the food 
your cats are used to, even my Blue Buffalo or Wellness.  I wouldn't even mind 
retiring there to one of the houses as a live in caretaker.  I have no family 
and I would have more than enough cats to love.

 Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote: 
 It may not be a scam. There are a lot of these types of contribution sites 
 around, mainly because people are struggling with vet bills and animals that 
 are difficult to get adopted. Matter of fact, I am developing a site called 
 Community Cats in Crisis and going to try to get funds through YouCare, 
 another publicly used site for contributions. This is in answer to the fact 
 that several people in my independent rescue group have spent over $5,000 of 
 their own money dealing with illnesses and injuries of colony cats and 
 abandoned cats in our community. I am $3,000 down in my finances from two 
 rescued cats, one still surviving with bone cancer.  That said, these people 
 are going about this slightly backwards. They should first identify the 
 Sanctuary that has agreed to accept Alan so people can contact the Sanctuary 
 and see what it's all about. Then they need to find out where Alan will be 
 living at the Sanctuary and what other types of cats will be living
  with him. You wouldn't want to mix FeLv and FIV+ cats together. Anyone can 
 start a Sanctuary and take in cats. That's a problem. Here near San Antonio 
 there was an FeLv sanctuary. The woman had over 100 FeLv+ cats there, all 
 crammed into a small shed, with an outside enclosure that was smaller than a 
 small backyard. The rest of the property was a sheep ranch. She took very 
 poor care of the cats and did not separate those who were positive but not 
 active for the disease from those who were already showing signs of the 
 disease. The place was filthy, food was rotting or very low grade and 
 symptoms were not treated with medications. She had no certification as a 
 shelter or sanctuary or certified rescue group. Just a woman using part of 
 her sheep ranch to store FeLv+ cats. She would collect up to $2,000 per cat 
 and the people who released the cats to her care were shown a very nice 
 living room type area with several cats lounging about. They never saw the
  real place where she eventually crammed more and more cats.


 
Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors 
too!






 From: Margo toomanykitti...@earthlink.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2013 11:32 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] campaign to get an felv cat to sanctuary
 


 

 
Not to be a downer, but this screams scam to me. There is no specific 
sanctuary who has agreed to accept Alan (and surely they could get a decent 
picture of him?), nor any details. Way too nebulous. 
 
I sincerely hope I'm wrong, but no, I wouldn't contribute to this
 
.-Original Message- 
From: dana giordano 
Sent: May 26, 2013 12:10 PM 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Subject: [Felvtalk] campaign to get an felv cat to sanctuary 


I've never seen one of these, but wanted to pass it on in case anyone wants 
to reach out to her, knows a sanctuary or wants to adopt.  


They have $700 out of $1000 raised with 20 days left 


http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/alan-s-sanctuary



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[Felvtalk] campaign to get an felv cat to sanctuary

2013-05-26 Thread dana giordano
I've never seen one of these, but wanted to pass it on in case anyone wants
to reach out to her, knows a sanctuary or wants to adopt.

They have $700 out of $1000 raised with 20 days left

http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/alan-s-sanctuary

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Re: [Felvtalk] campaign to get an felv cat to sanctuary

2013-05-26 Thread Margo



Not to be a downer, but this screams scam to me. There is no specific sanctuary who has agreed to accept Alan (and surely they could get a decent picture of him?), nor any details. Way too nebulous. 

I sincerely hope I'm wrong, but no, I wouldn't contribute to this

.-Original Message- From: dana giordano Sent: May 26, 2013 12:10 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] campaign to get an felv cat to sanctuary 
I've never seen one of these, but wanted to pass it on in case anyone wants to reach out to her, knows a sanctuary or wants to adopt.

They have $700 out of $1000 raised with 20 days left

http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/alan-s-sanctuary

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Re: [Felvtalk] campaign to get an felv cat to sanctuary

2013-05-26 Thread Lee Evans
It may not be a scam. There are a lot of these types of contribution sites 
around, mainly because people are struggling with vet bills and animals that 
are difficult to get adopted. Matter of fact, I am developing a site called 
Community Cats in Crisis and going to try to get funds through YouCare, another 
publicly used site for contributions. This is in answer to the fact that 
several people in my independent rescue group have spent over $5,000 of their 
own money dealing with illnesses and injuries of colony cats and abandoned cats 
in our community. I am $3,000 down in my finances from two rescued cats, one 
still surviving with bone cancer.  That said, these people are going about this 
slightly backwards. They should first identify the Sanctuary that has agreed to 
accept Alan so people can contact the Sanctuary and see what it's all about. 
Then they need to find out where Alan will be living at the Sanctuary and what 
other types of cats will be living
 with him. You wouldn't want to mix FeLv and FIV+ cats together. Anyone can 
start a Sanctuary and take in cats. That's a problem. Here near San Antonio 
there was an FeLv sanctuary. The woman had over 100 FeLv+ cats there, all 
crammed into a small shed, with an outside enclosure that was smaller than a 
small backyard. The rest of the property was a sheep ranch. She took very poor 
care of the cats and did not separate those who were positive but not active 
for the disease from those who were already showing signs of the disease. The 
place was filthy, food was rotting or very low grade and symptoms were not 
treated with medications. She had no certification as a shelter or sanctuary or 
certified rescue group. Just a woman using part of her sheep ranch to store 
FeLv+ cats. She would collect up to $2,000 per cat and the people who released 
the cats to her care were shown a very nice living room type area with several 
cats lounging about. They never saw the
 real place where she eventually crammed more and more cats.


 
Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors 
too!






 From: Margo toomanykitti...@earthlink.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2013 11:32 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] campaign to get an felv cat to sanctuary
 


 

 
Not to be a downer, but this screams scam to me. There is no specific 
sanctuary who has agreed to accept Alan (and surely they could get a decent 
picture of him?), nor any details. Way too nebulous. 
 
I sincerely hope I'm wrong, but no, I wouldn't contribute to this
 
.-Original Message- 
From: dana giordano 
Sent: May 26, 2013 12:10 PM 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Subject: [Felvtalk] campaign to get an felv cat to sanctuary 


I've never seen one of these, but wanted to pass it on in case anyone wants 
to reach out to her, knows a sanctuary or wants to adopt.  


They have $700 out of $1000 raised with 20 days left 


http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/alan-s-sanctuary



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Re: [Felvtalk] campaign to get an felv cat to sanctuary

2013-05-26 Thread Margo



Hi Lee,

 I don't think the concept is wrong, and I agree with your thoughts. I headed a rescue for many years, and now have the remaining "un-adoptables" with me. Currently I need to expand, and erect housing and enclosure for another 20 some cats. My feed bills run over $500 a month, and the Vet bills can really mount up. I get the costs :). And the debt.

 I have contributed to sites like these, but before doing so, I verified the cause. I want the name of the place where the funds will be going. I want contact info. I want the Vet who is involved to be available to confirm diagnosis, andthat treatment is forth-coming,or on-going. I want to know if there will be additional costs, later. This "case" had several elements I consider red flags.

 As I said, Ihope that this is legitimate. Maybe they just don't know how to go about asking, as you said.FeLV is an unusual condition to be trying to "hook" the public with. It's not something laypeople would generally respond to as a place to allocate their charitble contributions. If NOT an actual need, better to use a cute, cuddly pup or kittenwith an extremely urgent need for medical attention. That's why I'm not condemning outright. I think a scam would be better organized, but who knows. Whatever the truth, I hope that Alan finds Sanctuary.

 Maybe the years have just made me reluctant to trust, but experience can be a bitter teacher.

All the best,

Margo

-Original Message- From: Lee Evans Sent: May 26, 2013 1:17 PM To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] campaign to get an felv cat to sanctuary 
It may not be a scam. There are a lot of these types of contribution sites around, mainly because people are struggling with vet bills and animals that are difficult to get adopted. Matter of fact, I am developing a site called Community Cats in Crisis and going to try to get funds through YouCare, another publicly used site for contributions. This is in answer to the fact that several people in my independent rescue group have spent over $5,000 of their own money dealing with illnesses and injuries of colony cats and abandoned cats in our community. I am $3,000 down in my finances from two rescued cats, one still surviving with bone cancer. That said, these people are going about this slightly backwards. They should first identify the Sanctuary that has agreed to accept Alan so people can contact the Sanctuary and see what it's all about. Then they need to find out where Alan will be living at the Sanctuary and what other types of cats will be living with him. You wouldn't want to mix FeLv and FIV+ cats together. Anyone can start a Sanctuary and take in cats. That's a problem. Here near San Antonio there was an FeLv sanctuary. The woman had over 100 FeLv+ cats there, all crammed into a small shed, with an outside enclosure that was smaller than a small backyard. The rest of the property was a sheep ranch. She took very poor care of the cats and did not separate those who were positive but not active for the disease from those who were already showing signs of the disease. The place was filthy, food was rotting or very low grade and symptoms were not treated with medications. She had no certification as a shelter or sanctuary or certified rescue group. Just a woman using part of her sheep ranch to store FeLv+ cats. She would collect up to $2,000 per cat and the people who released the cats to her care were shown a very nice living room type area with several cats lounging about. They never saw the real place where she eventually crammed more and more cats.


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