Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem (Tonya)

[catatonya]

Thanks Wendy,
   
  I 'think' we are getting a medication routine going.  It's hard to tell if 
he's eating because he won't eat in front of me.  But he feels like he's 
gaining weight.  He's still interested in treats.  We're retesting in a couple 
of weeks, and unless things look good I'm going to go to the ear gel. Shaft is 
18 years old, so I don't think he's a good candidate for the surgery. :(
  tonya

wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  Hey Tonya,
   
  I lost my 18 yr. old Julie to hyperT/kidney failure in December.  Instead of 
trying to chase Shaft for oral meds, I would suggest trying the transdermal 
Tapazole/Methimazole.  I ordered Julie's through Pet Health Pharmacy online; 
they are very reasonable compared to my vet/other pharmacies price-wise and 
have great service and customer service.  The transdermal can be rubbed into 
the tip of Shaft's ear, which is SOO much easier than trying to pill!  You 
will probably have to adjust and readjust dosing, as the hyperT is never 
completely cured.  The meds just regulate the progression of the disease, 
slowing it down.  I belonged to the hyperT group for two+ years and learned a 
lot there.  One of the problems with the meds is often overdosing of meds.  
Many vets prescribe 5 mg 2x daily when starting doses should only be 1.25 to 
2.5 mg 2x daily.  The meds have to be given every 12 hours because they are out 
of the system after about 12 hours.  
   
  The other thing you can consider is the radioactive iodine (I-131) treatment. 
 It's expensive; anywhere from $800 to $2000 depending on what part of the U.S. 
you have the treatment done in.  It's a cure, when it works, which is often.  
It kills the bad cells in the thyroid and leaves the good cells alone.  Had I 
had the money and had Julie not had kidney issues as well and had she been 
younger, I would have most assuredly gone with this treatment.  
   
  Hyper T often masks kidney disease, so often people find they are dealing 
with CRF as well as hyperT once the hyperT is regulated, and if this is the 
case, you often have to balance to two with the meds, meaning you can't fully 
treat the hyperT, as the kidney's act up.  If Shaft does have CRF after you get 
him regulated (you'll need to have his bloodwork done 4-6 hours after dosing 
with Tapazole/Methamizole to check both kidneys and T4 level, about 2 weeks 
after meds have been started), then subQ fluids are a must.  
   
  The hyperT Yahoo group is great.  Also, heart murmur is often caused by 
overworking thyroid, so that can disappear/improve after hyperT is regulated 
with meds.
   
  Hope this helps Shaft!
  :)
  Wendy
   
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world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~  
 

  
  - Original Message 
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Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 10:26:08 AM
Subject: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem

  My cat Shaft has lost nearly half his body weight.  Everyone here has been so 
sick I just didn't realize it until a few weeks ago (a few days before I was 
leaving for a week's vacation).  I got him into the vet suspecting hyper-t as 
soon as I got back.  That's what it was.  The vet detected a heart murmer as 
well.  He is an estimated 18 years old.  He had a fever and the vet put him on 
some amoxy for that, as well as the tapazole, of course.
   
  Problem.  He now hides and I have to chase him around to get any med.s down 
him.  I've given up on everything except the tapazole and he still hides.  
Should I stress him out with the chase down?  Crate him for a while?  He 
doesn't seem to be gaining ANY weight, and I have an appt. with vet again on 
Monday.  We were supposed to wait a month, but he's getting worse, not better.
   
  Does anyone have the link to join the hyper-t group or any other advice?  I 
am quickly losing my mind. la la la la.
   
  t




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Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem (Tonya)

[wendy]

Hey Tonya,
Glad you guys are getting some type of routine down.  It's funny how hard that 
can be sometimes, especially with all that you also have going on personally.  
Keep us posted on Shaft.  I hope when he goes for his testing his numbers are 
in the normal range, and not still hyperT or hypoT.
:)
Wendy

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the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade 
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Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 2:47:00 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem (Tonya)


Thanks Wendy,
 
I 'think' we are getting a medication routine going.  It's hard to tell if he's 
eating because he won't eat in front of me.  But he feels like he's gaining 
weight.  He's still interested in treats.  We're retesting in a couple of 
weeks, and unless things look good I'm going to go to the ear gel. Shaft is 18 
years old, so I don't think he's a good candidate for the surgery. :(
tonya

wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hey Tonya,
 
I lost my 18 yr. old Julie to hyperT/kidney failure in December.  Instead of 
trying to chase Shaft for oral meds, I would suggest trying the transdermal 
Tapazole/Methimazole.  I ordered Julie's through Pet Health Pharmacy online; 
they are very reasonable compared to my vet/other pharmacies price-wise and 
have great service and customer service.  The transdermal can be rubbed into 
the tip of Shaft's ear, which is SOO much easier than trying to pill!  You 
will probably have to adjust and readjust dosing, as the hyperT is never 
completely cured.  The meds just regulate the progression of the disease, 
slowing it down.  I belonged to the hyperT group for two+ years and learned a 
lot there.  One of the problems with the meds is often overdosing of meds.  
Many vets prescribe 5 mg 2x daily when starting doses should only be 1.25 to 
2.5 mg 2x daily.  The meds have to be given every 12 hours because they are out 
of the system after about
 12 hours.  
 
The other thing you can consider is the radioactive iodine (I-131) treatment.  
It's expensive; anywhere from $800 to $2000 depending on what part of the U.S. 
you have the treatment done in.  It's a cure, when it works, which is often.  
It kills the bad cells in the thyroid and leaves the good cells alone.  Had I 
had the money and had Julie not had kidney issues as well and had she been 
younger, I would have most assuredly gone with this treatment.  
 
Hyper T often masks kidney disease, so often people find they are dealing with 
CRF as well as hyperT once the hyperT is regulated, and if this is the case, 
you often have to balance to two with the meds, meaning you can't fully treat 
the hyperT, as the kidney's act up.  If Shaft does have CRF after you get him 
regulated (you'll need to have his bloodwork done 4-6 hours after dosing with 
Tapazole/Methamizole to check both kidneys and T4 level, about 2 weeks after 
meds have been started), then subQ fluids are a must.  
 
The hyperT Yahoo group is great.  Also, heart murmur is often caused by 
overworking thyroid, so that can disappear/improve after hyperT is regulated 
with meds.
 
Hope this helps Shaft!
:)
Wendy
 Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change 
the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade 
~~~ 



- Original Message 
From: catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 10:26:08 AM
Subject: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem


My cat Shaft has lost nearly half his body weight.  Everyone here has been so 
sick I just didn't realize it until a few weeks ago (a few days before I was 
leaving for a week's vacation).  I got him into the vet suspecting hyper-t as 
soon as I got back.  That's what it was.  The vet detected a heart murmer as 
well.  He is an estimated 18 years old.  He had a fever and the vet put him on 
some amoxy for that, as well as the tapazole, of course.
 
Problem.  He now hides and I have to chase him around to get any med.s down 
him.  I've given up on everything except the tapazole and he still hides.  
Should I stress him out with the chase down?  Crate him for a while?  He 
doesn't seem to be gaining ANY weight, and I have an appt. with vet again on 
Monday.  We were supposed to wait a month, but he's getting worse, not better.
 
Does anyone have the link to join the hyper-t group or any other advice?  I am 
quickly losing my mind. la la la la.
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem (Tonya)

[wendy]

Hey Tonya,
I lost my 18 yr. old Julie to hyperT/kidney failure in December.  Instead of 
trying to chase Shaft for oral meds, I would suggest trying the transdermal 
Tapazole/Methimazole.  I ordered Julie's through Pet Health Pharmacy online; 
they are very reasonable compared to my vet/other pharmacies price-wise and 
have great service and customer service.  The transdermal can be rubbed into 
the tip of Shaft's ear, which is SOO much easier than trying to pill!  You 
will probably have to adjust and readjust dosing, as the hyperT is never 
completely cured.  The meds just regulate the progression of the disease, 
slowing it down.  I belonged to the hyperT group for two+ years and learned a 
lot there.  One of the problems with the meds is often overdosing of meds.  
Many vets prescribe 5 mg 2x daily when starting doses should only be 1.25 to 
2.5 mg 2x daily.  The meds have to be given every 12 hours because they are out 
of the system after about
 12 hours.  
The other thing you can consider is the radioactive iodine (I-131) treatment.  
It's expensive; anywhere from $800 to $2000 depending on what part of the U.S. 
you have the treatment done in.  It's a cure, when it works, which is often.  
It kills the bad cells in the thyroid and leaves the good cells alone.  Had I 
had the money and had Julie not had kidney issues as well and had she been 
younger, I would have most assuredly gone with this treatment.  
Hyper T often masks kidney disease, so often people find they are dealing with 
CRF as well as hyperT once the hyperT is regulated, and if this is the case, 
you often have to balance to two with the meds, meaning you can't fully treat 
the hyperT, as the kidney's act up.  If Shaft does have CRF after you get him 
regulated (you'll need to have his bloodwork done 4-6 hours after dosing with 
Tapazole/Methamizole to check both kidneys and T4 level, about 2 weeks after 
meds have been started), then subQ fluids are a must.  
The hyperT Yahoo group is great.  Also, heart murmur is often caused by 
overworking thyroid, so that can disappear/improve after hyperT is regulated 
with meds.
Hope this helps Shaft!
:)
Wendy
 Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change 
the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade 
~~~



- Original Message 
From: catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 10:26:08 AM
Subject: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem


My cat Shaft has lost nearly half his body weight.  Everyone here has been so 
sick I just didn't realize it until a few weeks ago (a few days before I was 
leaving for a week's vacation).  I got him into the vet suspecting hyper-t as 
soon as I got back.  That's what it was.  The vet detected a heart murmer as 
well.  He is an estimated 18 years old.  He had a fever and the vet put him on 
some amoxy for that, as well as the tapazole, of course.
 
Problem.  He now hides and I have to chase him around to get any med.s down 
him.  I've given up on everything except the tapazole and he still hides.  
Should I stress him out with the chase down?  Crate him for a while?  He 
doesn't seem to be gaining ANY weight, and I have an appt. with vet again on 
Monday.  We were supposed to wait a month, but he's getting worse, not better.
 
Does anyone have the link to join the hyper-t group or any other advice?  I am 
quickly losing my mind. la la la la.
 
t


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[wendy]

Funny you say this about the gerber (or BeechNut) baby food.  Chicken and gravy 
was Julie's favorite, and when she would not eat anything else, she scarfed 
this stuff down!!!  It saved her life several times when she stopped eating and 
towards the end of her life, she lived on it, plus boiled chicken and chicken 
broth.  
Make sure whatever baby food you buy does not contain garlic or onions.  I 
think tomatoes are also linked to anemia in cats, but not sure on this.
Pepcid (original) was also a life-saver for her a few times when she stopped 
eating when her stomach acted up.  
:)
Wendy

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the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade 
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- Original Message 
From: Sharyl [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 11:54:34 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem


Tonya, I don't belong to this group.  It is listed in the Links on the Assist 
Feeding Group. 
Feline Hyperthyroid (also Hypothyroid welcome)
http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/feline-hyperT/?yguid=167334211
 
Some folks have good luck with Pill Pockets.  Most vets carry them.  Pets Mart 
may as well.  Mine caught on the 2nd dose  and now avoid them like the plague.  
 
Pequita would get hysterical and foam at the mouth whenever I tried to pill 
her.  But she loves Gerber 2 Chicken and Gravy baby food.  I crush her meds, 
dissolve them in 1-2 cc of water and add them to a couple of tsp of Gerbers.  
She laps it right up.
 
Shaft really needs the Tapazole to get his thyroid regulated.  If Pill Pockets 
don't work try the baby food.  Any meat variety works just make sure it doesn't 
have onions or garlic in it.    Also the Gerber 2 Chicken and gravy has 100 
calories per jar so it would help with the wt issue.
Sharyl

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From: catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Saturday, July 19, 2008, 11:26 AM


My cat Shaft has lost nearly half his body weight.  Everyone here has been so 
sick I just didn't realize it until a few weeks ago (a few days before I was 
leaving for a week's vacation).  I got him into the vet suspecting hyper-t as 
soon as I got back.  That's what it was.  The vet detected a heart murmer as 
well.  He is an estimated 18 years old.  He had a fever and the vet put him on 
some amoxy for that, as well as the tapazole, of course.
 
Problem.  He now hides and I have to chase him around to get any med.s down 
him.  I've given up on everything except the tapazole and he still hides.  
Should I stress him out with the chase down?  Crate him for a while?  He 
doesn't seem to be gaining ANY weight, and I have an appt. with vet again on 
Monday.  We were supposed to wait a month, but he's getting worse, not better.
 
Does anyone have the link to join the hyper-t group or any other advice?  I am 
quickly losing my mind. la la la la.
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem

[wendy]

P.S. Julie also loved deli meat!!!

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Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008 2:49:19 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem


Funny you say this about the gerber (or BeechNut) baby food.  Chicken and gravy 
was Julie's favorite, and when she would not eat anything else, she scarfed 
this stuff down!!!  It saved her life several times when she stopped eating and 
towards the end of her life, she lived on it, plus boiled chicken and chicken 
broth.  
 
Make sure whatever baby food you buy does not contain garlic or onions.  I 
think tomatoes are also linked to anemia in cats, but not sure on this.
 
Pepcid (original) was also a life-saver for her a few times when she stopped 
eating when her stomach acted up.  
 
:)
Wendy

 Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change 
the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade 
~~~



- Original Message 
From: Sharyl [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 11:54:34 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem


Tonya, I don't belong to this group.  It is listed in the Links on the Assist 
Feeding Group. 
Feline Hyperthyroid (also Hypothyroid welcome)
http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/feline-hyperT/?yguid=167334211
 
Some folks have good luck with Pill Pockets.  Most vets carry them.  Pets Mart 
may as well.  Mine caught on the 2nd dose  and now avoid them like the plague.  
 
Pequita would get hysterical and foam at the mouth whenever I tried to pill 
her.  But she loves Gerber 2 Chicken and Gravy baby food.  I crush her meds, 
dissolve them in 1-2 cc of water and add them to a couple of tsp of Gerbers.  
She laps it right up.
 
Shaft really needs the Tapazole to get his thyroid regulated.  If Pill Pockets 
don't work try the baby food.  Any meat variety works just make sure it doesn't 
have onions or garlic in it.    Also the Gerber 2 Chicken and gravy has 100 
calories per jar so it would help with the wt issue.
Sharyl

--- On Sat, 7/19/08, catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

From: catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Saturday, July 19, 2008, 11:26 AM


My cat Shaft has lost nearly half his body weight.  Everyone here has been so 
sick I just didn't realize it until a few weeks ago (a few days before I was 
leaving for a week's vacation).  I got him into the vet suspecting hyper-t as 
soon as I got back.  That's what it was.  The vet detected a heart murmer as 
well.  He is an estimated 18 years old.  He had a fever and the vet put him on 
some amoxy for that, as well as the tapazole, of course.
 
Problem.  He now hides and I have to chase him around to get any med.s down 
him.  I've given up on everything except the tapazole and he still hides.  
Should I stress him out with the chase down?  Crate him for a while?  He 
doesn't seem to be gaining ANY weight, and I have an appt. with vet again on 
Monday.  We were supposed to wait a month, but he's getting worse, not better.
 
Does anyone have the link to join the hyper-t group or any other advice?  I am 
quickly losing my mind. la la la la.
 
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When Gus my SNAP tested once positive male, was not eating, just lying 
around, but no major signs of illness. I feed him Gerber meat baby food 
with KMR and lysine powder mixed in. He wolfed it down and got over what 
appears to have been a viral URI of a mild nature. He is now back to his 
old self, tearing up the newspaper lining his cage, vocalizing all the 
time. I think it was a combination of a mild viral URI and his being 
depressed about being in a cage for half a day. So when I was hand 
feeding him the baby food, he got the attention he was seeking, so I am 
still feeding him baby food with lysine mixed in.

Sam

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[catatonya]

yes, hyper thyroid is very common with cats. what kind of vet do you go to

Debbie Harrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  .hmmessage P  {  margin:0px;  
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Question...is hyper-t hyper thyroid???  It is what I suspected with my Baby 
Ruben...but the vet says cats don't get thatI tried to argue the point, 
but she wouldn't listen...

Debbie (COL)
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  Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 08:26:08 -0700
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To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem

  My cat Shaft has lost nearly half his body weight.  Everyone here has been so 
sick I just didn't realize it until a few weeks ago (a few days before I was 
leaving for a week's vacation).  I got him into the vet suspecting hyper-t as 
soon as I got back.  That's what it was.  The vet detected a heart murmer as 
well.  He is an estimated 18 years old.  He had a fever and the vet put him on 
some amoxy for that, as well as the tapazole, of course.
   
  Problem.  He now hides and I have to chase him around to get any med.s down 
him.  I've given up on everything except the tapazole and he still hides.  
Should I stress him out with the chase down?  Crate him for a while?  He 
doesn't seem to be gaining ANY weight, and I have an appt. with vet again on 
Monday.  We were supposed to wait a month, but he's getting worse, not better.
   
  Does anyone have the link to join the hyper-t group or any other advice?  I 
am quickly losing my mind. la la la la.
   
  t

  
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[catatonya]

Yes,
   
  MC is known for being one of our most objective (cough) members.  But I have 
to agree with her.  Are you sure your vet actually said this
  t

MaryChristine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
okay, everyone, in harmony now, GET A NEW VET!

it's a major problem now that cats are living long enough for it to manifest! 
if you like the vet, keep him for vaccinations and things, but if he doesn't 
know about this yet, he's not whom you need for your dear.

as ever, objectively yours,

MC



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Question...is hyper-t hyper thyroid???  It is what I suspected with my 
Baby Ruben...but the vet says cats don't get thatI tried to argue the 
point, but she wouldn't listen...

Debbie (COL)
You gotta bloom where you're planted!


  
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  Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 08:26:08 -0700
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To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org  
Subject: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem



My cat Shaft has lost nearly half his body weight.  Everyone here has been 
so sick I just didn't realize it until a few weeks ago (a few days before I was 
leaving for a week's vacation).  I got him into the vet suspecting hyper-t as 
soon as I got back.  That's what it was.  The vet detected a heart murmer as 
well.  He is an estimated 18 years old.  He had a fever and the vet put him on 
some amoxy for that, as well as the tapazole, of course.
   
  Problem.  He now hides and I have to chase him around to get any med.s down 
him.  I've given up on everything except the tapazole and he still hides.  
Should I stress him out with the chase down?  Crate him for a while?  He 
doesn't seem to be gaining ANY weight, and I have an appt. with vet again on 
Monday.  We were supposed to wait a month, but he's getting worse, not better.
   
  Does anyone have the link to join the hyper-t group or any other advice?  I 
am quickly losing my mind. la la la la.
   
  t



  
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[catatonya]

Maybe he said hypO thyroid which I've never heard of a cat given.  I guess it's 
possible, but I've never heard of it
  t

MaryChristine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
okay, everyone, in harmony now, GET A NEW VET!

it's a major problem now that cats are living long enough for it to manifest! 
if you like the vet, keep him for vaccinations and things, but if he doesn't 
know about this yet, he's not whom you need for your dear.

as ever, objectively yours,

MC



  On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 4:52 PM, Debbie Harrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Question...is hyper-t hyper thyroid???  It is what I suspected with my 
Baby Ruben...but the vet says cats don't get thatI tried to argue the 
point, but she wouldn't listen...

Debbie (COL)
You gotta bloom where you're planted!


  
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To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org  
Subject: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem



My cat Shaft has lost nearly half his body weight.  Everyone here has been 
so sick I just didn't realize it until a few weeks ago (a few days before I was 
leaving for a week's vacation).  I got him into the vet suspecting hyper-t as 
soon as I got back.  That's what it was.  The vet detected a heart murmer as 
well.  He is an estimated 18 years old.  He had a fever and the vet put him on 
some amoxy for that, as well as the tapazole, of course.
   
  Problem.  He now hides and I have to chase him around to get any med.s down 
him.  I've given up on everything except the tapazole and he still hides.  
Should I stress him out with the chase down?  Crate him for a while?  He 
doesn't seem to be gaining ANY weight, and I have an appt. with vet again on 
Monday.  We were supposed to wait a month, but he's getting worse, not better.
   
  Does anyone have the link to join the hyper-t group or any other advice?  I 
am quickly losing my mind. la la la la.
   
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Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem -pilling shaft

[catatonya]

I really don't know if he's eating the canned food or the dry because he won't 
come in the room when I feed them anymore because that's where I started 
pilling him.   When he stopped coming in the room to be fed I started pilling 
him when he came to bed.  Now he doesn't come to bed with me anymore.  Then I 
started pilling him on his cat tree. Now he just stays hidden and I have to 
search him out to pill him.
   
  The past month has been hectic.  I was gone for a week on vacation before I 
took him in to the vet.  Then we started his med.s. then my 4 year old nephew 
came and stayed a week.  (the cats are afraid of him.)  then my mother got sick 
and i've been having to stay with her some and been in and out a lot.  i've 
also had workers at my house.  and i'm also trying to give bob and sneaker  
fluids which scares the other cats..  So it's just been one thing after the 
other.
   
  Shaft is usually very easy going, but he does not like these pills and will 
not take them in food or pill pockets.  Those were my first tries.
   
  tonya

gary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  What is he eating?
   
  Gary
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  Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 3:03 PM
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem
  

  He won't come to me to eat canned food anymore. :(
  t

gary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I've never had a problem with any cat by crushing amoxi tablets in 
food. Had one cat on tapazole crushed in food with no problem.  I doubt it 
would work with the aspirin, pretty bitter stuff.
   
  Gary
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  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 12:31 PM
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem
  

  thanks. i had him going on the pill pockets until i added the amoxy and the 
baby aspirin. it was just too much and he started hiding from me. :(
  t 
   
  thank you for the link.  I went through this with another cat about 4 years 
ago (hyper-t) but she didn't hide from me.
  t


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Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem

[catatonya]

I think I'll give that a try today so I don't have to chase him down to go to 
the vet in the morning.  
  thanks,
  t

Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  If you can crate him and cover his crate with a sheet sprayed with 
Feliway it might helpmaybe put Rescue Rememdy in his water.
On Jul 19, 2008, at 10:26 AM, catatonya wrote:

 My cat Shaft has lost nearly half his body weight. Everyone here 
 has been so sick I just didn't realize it until a few weeks ago (a 
 few days before I was leaving for a week's vacation). I got him 
 into the vet suspecting hyper-t as soon as I got back. That's what 
 it was. The vet detected a heart murmer as well. He is an 
 estimated 18 years old. He had a fever and the vet put him on some 
 amoxy for that, as well as the tapazole, of course.

 Problem. He now hides and I have to chase him around to get any 
 med.s down him. I've given up on everything except the tapazole and 
 he still hides. Should I stress him out with the chase down? Crate 
 him for a while? He doesn't seem to be gaining ANY weight, and I 
 have an appt. with vet again on Monday. We were supposed to wait a 
 month, but he's getting worse, not better.

 Does anyone have the link to join the hyper-t group or any other 
 advice? I am quickly losing my mind. la la la la.

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Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem

[catatonya]

Their 'safe' place has been a room in the basement where I keep the litter pans 
and the food.  I've had to move the food upstairs to be sure everyone's eating. 
 I've left the litter pans and some toys and cat trees down there and tried not 
to chase anyone down there for vet visits or pilling.  But Shaft has been 
hiding down there from pilling to the point that yesterday I had to go down 
there to pill him. :(

Sharyl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If he has had the run of the house crating him may feel like 
punishment to him.   I give mine safe places.  When they are in their safe 
place I don't mess with them.  I also make a point of picking them up for some 
love every time we cross paths.  I don't want them to think the only time I 
pick them up is for meds.  I'm short on space so I have storage tubs under the 
beds eliminating that as a hiding space.
  Sharyl   
  

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Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Saturday, July 19, 2008, 5:23 PM


If you can crate him and cover his crate with a sheet sprayed withFeliway 
it might helpmaybe put Rescue Rememdy in his water.  On Jul 19, 2008, at 
10:26 AM, catatonya wrote: My cat Shaft has lost nearly half his body 
weight.  Everyone here has been so sick I just didn't realize it until a 
few weeks ago (a few days before I was leaving for a week's vacation).  I 
got him into the vet suspecting hyper-t as soon as I got back.  That's 
what it was.  The vet detected a heart murmer as well.  He is an 
estimated 18 years old.  He had a fever and the vet put him on some amoxy 
for that, as well as the tapazole, of course. Problem.  He now hides and 
I have to chase him around to get any med.s down him.  I've given up on 
everything except the tapazole and he still hides.  Should I stress him 
out with the chase down?  Crate him for a while?  He doesn't seem to be 
gaining ANY weight, and I have an appt. with vet again
 on Monday.  We were supposed to wait a month, but he's getting worse, not 
better. Does anyone have the link to join the hyper-t group or any other  
   advice?  I am quickly losing my mind. la la la la. t   
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Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem, hyper-t leads to crf?

[catatonya]

oh n!! that is NOT what i want to hear! 
 I hope shaft doesn't have crf too.  I don't know if they even ran a cbc on him 
or just the thyroid panel. i'll find out tomorrow. ughhh.

Sharyl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Debbie, if your vet doesn't think 
cats get hyperthyroidism then you desperately need to find a new vet.  Here is 
a link to more info.
  http://www.marvistavet.com/html/thyroid.html
Most folks start out treating with meds to see how the cats responds.  Some 
will be candidates for radiotherapy.  Be aware that may cats are dx with CRF 
after the thyroid issues are resolved.  Hyper T tends to hide CRF.
  Sharyl
  
--- On Sat, 7/19/08, Debbie Harrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  From: Debbie Harrison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Saturday, July 19, 2008, 4:52 PM

  #yiv232649579 .hmmessage P  {  margin:0px;padding:0px;}  #yiv232649579 {  
FONT-SIZE:10pt;FONT-FAMILY:Tahoma;}Question...is hyper-t hyper thyroid??? 
 It is what I suspected with my Baby Ruben...but the vet says cats don't get 
thatI tried to argue the point, but she wouldn't listen...

Debbie (COL)
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  Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 08:26:08 -0700
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem

  My cat Shaft has lost nearly half his body weight.  Everyone here has been so 
sick I just didn't realize it until a few weeks ago (a few days before I was 
leaving for a week's vacation).  I got him into the vet suspecting hyper-t as 
soon as I got back.  That's what it was.  The vet detected a heart murmer as 
well.  He is an estimated 18 years old.  He had a fever and the vet put him on 
some amoxy for that, as well as the tapazole, of course.
   
  Problem.  He now hides and I have to chase him around to get any med.s down 
him.  I've given up on everything except the tapazole and he still hides.  
Should I stress him out with the chase down?  Crate him for a while?  He 
doesn't seem to be gaining ANY weight, and I have an appt. with vet again on 
Monday.  We were supposed to wait a month, but he's getting worse, not better.
   
  Does anyone have the link to join the hyper-t group or any other advice?  I 
am quickly losing my mind. la la la la.
   
  t

  
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Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem hyper-t

[catatonya]

I just checked the last site given and it says it's best to medicate twice a 
day rather than once maybe that's why he's not doing so well.  Maybe I'll 
go with the compounding gel for the ear.  Or maybe we're just not giving 
enough.  His muscle mass is just gone.  He has suffered from skin allergies and 
sneezing fits which I have NOT noticed since he's been on the tapazole now that 
I think of it.   Lots to learn.
  t

Lynne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Our 19 year old was diagnosed with this almost a year ago.  He hasn't 
gained any weight back from what I can tell but he had suffered from itchy skin 
which has resolved since putting him on medication.  He has very little muscle 
mass on him and is generally having issues associated with being very old: 
senility, deafness etc, but we think being on thyroid medication has helped him 
a lot.  We have the pharmacy make it into a transdermal which is easily given 
to him inside his ears.  He thinks he's getting an ear massage and enjoys it.  
As for it not being as effective, our vet felt the pills would be better, but 
the pharmacist explained to me the difference between the two and in her 
opinion the transdermal way is more effective.  She's an aminal pharmacist as 
well as a human one so I trust her.  I divide the dose in two and give it to 
him twice a day.  
   
  Lynne
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  Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 6:42 PM
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem
  

  LOL, MC!  But absolutely correctamundo.  At one point we had two hyper-t 
cats, and they took the same pills (tapezole/methimazole) in different dosages. 
 We used to keep whole, half and quarter pills pre-cut in 3 separate pill 
bottles.  Pill splitting day was like an exercise in higher math...  I can't 
imagine a vet not knowing about hyper-t in cats!!  But the upside is it's 
pretty treatable and the pills aren't outrageously expensive, if you go the 
pill route.  I understand it can also be compounded into a cream and rubbed 
onto their ears but my vet doesn't think it's as effective that way.
   
  Diane R.


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To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem


  
  okay, everyone, in harmony now, GET A NEW VET!

it's a major problem now that cats are living long enough for it to manifest! 
if you like the vet, keep him for vaccinations and things, but if he doesn't 
know about this yet, he's not whom you need for your dear.

as ever, objectively yours,

MC



  On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 4:52 PM, Debbie Harrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Question...is hyper-t hyper thyroid???  It is what I suspected with my 
Baby Ruben...but the vet says cats don't get thatI tried to argue the 
point, but she wouldn't listen...

Debbie (COL)
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  Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 08:26:08 -0700
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To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org   
Subject: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem



My cat Shaft has lost nearly half his body weight.  Everyone here has been 
so sick I just didn't realize it until a few weeks ago (a few days before I was 
leaving for a week's vacation).  I got him into the vet suspecting hyper-t as 
soon as I got back.  That's what it was.  The vet detected a heart murmer as 
well.  He is an estimated 18 years old.  He had a fever and the vet put him on 
some amoxy for that, as well as the tapazole, of course.
   
  Problem.  He now hides and I have to chase him around to get any med.s down 
him.  I've given up on everything except the tapazole and he still hides.  
Should I stress him out with the chase down?  Crate him for a while?  He 
doesn't seem to be gaining ANY weight, and I have an appt. with vet again on 
Monday.  We were supposed to wait a month, but he's getting worse, not better.
   
  Does anyone have the link to join the hyper-t group or any other advice?  I 
am quickly losing my mind. la la la la.
   
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Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem, hyper-t leads to crf?

[Sharyl]

Didn't mean to upset you but wanted to give you a heads up.  I haven't dealt 
with hyper-t but have read that many apply the meds via a cream on the ear.  
Some say the dose isn't as exact but if Shaft is so anti-pilling it might be a 
better alternative for you.
Sharyl

--- On Sun, 7/20/08, catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

From: catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem, hyper-t leads to crf?
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Sunday, July 20, 2008, 10:37 AM


oh n!! that is NOT what i want to 
hear!  I hope shaft doesn't have crf too.  I don't know if they even ran a cbc 
on him or just the thyroid panel. i'll find out tomorrow. ughhh.

Sharyl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 





Debbie, if your vet doesn't think cats get hyperthyroidism then you desperately 
need to find a new vet.  Here is a link to more info.
http://www.marvistavet.com/html/thyroid.html
Most folks start out treating with meds to see how the cats responds.  Some 
will be candidates for radiotherapy.  Be aware that may cats are dx with CRF 
after the thyroid issues are resolved.  Hyper T tends to hide CRF.
Sharyl

--- On Sat, 7/19/08, Debbie Harrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

From: Debbie Harrison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Saturday, July 19, 2008, 4:52 PM



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Question...is hyper-t hyper thyroid???  It is what I suspected with my Baby 
Ruben...but the vet says cats don't get thatI tried to argue the point, 
but she wouldn't listen...

Debbie (COL)
You gotta bloom where you're planted!




Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 08:26:08 -0700
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem


My cat Shaft has lost nearly half his body weight.  Everyone here has been so 
sick I just didn't realize it until a few weeks ago (a few days before I was 
leaving for a week's vacation).  I got him into the vet suspecting hyper-t as 
soon as I got back.  That's what it was.  The vet detected a heart murmer as 
well.  He is an estimated 18 years old.  He had a fever and the vet put him on 
some amoxy for that, as well as the tapazole, of course.
 
Problem.  He now hides and I have to chase him around to get any med.s down 
him.  I've given up on everything except the tapazole and he still hides.  
Should I stress him out with the chase down?  Crate him for a while?  He 
doesn't seem to be gaining ANY weight, and I have an appt. with vet again on 
Monday.  We were supposed to wait a month, but he's getting worse, not better.
 
Does anyone have the link to join the hyper-t group or any other advice?  I am 
quickly losing my mind. la la la la.
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem -pilling shaft

[Chris]

My Tucson is on daily meds and  For Tuscon, we go through phases-she does
OK w. Pill Pockets for a while, then we go to making a little ball with her
favorite soft treat, then we might try the pill in a little ball of cheese
or ham, and then we resort to holding and popping pill in her mouth.  No one
thing works all the time but my saving grace is that this 18 lb porko LOVES
to eat!

 

Occasionally, I have to give meds to my Romeo who I CANNOT hold to pop a
pill in--it gets real tricky when he periodically needs antibiotics for
teeth/gum problems.  He won't go near Pill Pockets.  I tried compounding
meds in liquid form and he looked at me like was insane.  BUT, being the old
street cat that he is, he loves certain people foods-any cold cuts, fish,
and chicken.  I break up a pill into as many little pieces as I can and can
usually hide a little piece of a pill in treat sized 'ball' of one of those
foods.  Then he comes running cause its not food he usually gets and he
loves that so much more than the treats!  Of course, I have to watch cause
Tucson (who hates him  makes his life a misery), has n problem sliding
over next to him and stealing the new 'treat'!  

 

Bottom line, if you can think of some food he absolutely goes nuts for,
break up the pill and make little 'treats' (and keep your fingers crossed!)

 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 10:25 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem -pilling shaft

 

I really don't know if he's eating the canned food or the dry because he
won't come in the room when I feed them anymore because that's where I
started pilling him.   When he stopped coming in the room to be fed I
started pilling him when he came to bed.  Now he doesn't come to bed with me
anymore.  Then I started pilling him on his cat tree. Now he just stays
hidden and I have to search him out to pill him.

 

The past month has been hectic.  I was gone for a week on vacation before I
took him in to the vet.  Then we started his med.s. then my 4 year old
nephew came and stayed a week.  (the cats are afraid of him.)  then my
mother got sick and i've been having to stay with her some and been in and
out a lot.  i've also had workers at my house.  and i'm also trying to give
bob and sneaker  fluids which scares the other cats..  So it's just been one
thing after the other.

 

Shaft is usually very easy going, but he does not like these pills and will
not take them in food or pill pockets.  Those were my first tries.

 

tonya

gary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

What is he eating?

 

Gary

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Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 3:03 PM

Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem

 

He won't come to me to eat canned food anymore. :(

t

gary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I've never had a problem with any cat by crushing amoxi tablets in food. Had
one cat on tapazole crushed in food with no problem.  I doubt it would work
with the aspirin, pretty bitter stuff.

 

Gary

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Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 12:31 PM

Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem

 

thanks. i had him going on the pill pockets until i added the amoxy and the
baby aspirin. it was just too much and he started hiding from me. :(

t 

 

thank you for the link.  I went through this with another cat about 4 years
ago (hyper-t) but she didn't hide from me.

t

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Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem -pilling shaft

[catatonya]

I guess I will have to work on the treats.  I am vegetarian and have never 
really given the cats treats, so they don't really know what they are.  Bob 
thinks a pill pocket is a treat.  That's about it.  I'll have to break down and 
buy some deli turkey, ham or something else I guess and give it a try.  Shaft 
was a 'street' cat.  Bob was born and has always lived with me.  He has never 
had 'people' food
  t

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does OK w. Pill Pockets for a while, then we go to making a little ball with 
her favorite soft treat, then we might try the pill in a little ball of cheese 
or ham, and then we resort to holding and popping pill in her mouth.  No one 
thing works all the time but my saving grace is that this 18 lb porko LOVES to 
eat!
   
  Occasionally, I have to give meds to my Romeo who I CANNOT hold to pop a pill 
in--it gets real tricky when he periodically needs antibiotics for teeth/gum 
problems.  He won’t go near Pill Pockets.  I tried compounding meds in liquid 
form and he looked at me like was insane.  BUT, being the old street cat that 
he is, he loves certain people foods—any cold cuts, fish, and chicken.  I break 
up a pill into as many little pieces as I can and can usually hide a little 
piece of a pill in treat sized ‘ball’ of one of those foods.  Then he comes 
running cause its not food he usually gets and he loves that so much more than 
the treats!  Of course, I have to watch cause Tucson (who hates him  makes his 
life a misery), has n problem sliding over next to him and stealing the new 
‘treat’!  
   
  Bottom line, if you can think of some food he absolutely goes nuts for, break 
up the pill and make little ‘treats’ (and keep your fingers crossed!)
   
  Christiane Biagi
  914-632-4672
  Cell:  914-720-6888
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
   
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of catatonya
Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 10:25 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem -pilling shaft

   
I really don't know if he's eating the canned food or the dry because he 
won't come in the room when I feed them anymore because that's where I started 
pilling him.   When he stopped coming in the room to be fed I started pilling 
him when he came to bed.  Now he doesn't come to bed with me anymore.  Then I 
started pilling him on his cat tree. Now he just stays hidden and I have to 
search him out to pill him.

 

The past month has been hectic.  I was gone for a week on vacation before I 
took him in to the vet.  Then we started his med.s. then my 4 year old nephew 
came and stayed a week.  (the cats are afraid of him.)  then my mother got sick 
and i've been having to stay with her some and been in and out a lot.  i've 
also had workers at my house.  and i'm also trying to give bob and sneaker  
fluids which scares the other cats..  So it's just been one thing after the 
other.

 

Shaft is usually very easy going, but he does not like these pills and will 
not take them in food or pill pockets.  Those were my first tries.

 

tonya

gary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  What is he eating?

 

Gary

  - Original Message - 

From: catatonya 

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 

Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 3:03 PM

Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem

 

He won't come to me to eat canned food anymore. :(

t

gary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I've never had a problem with any cat by crushing amoxi tablets in food. 
Had one cat on tapazole crushed in food with no problem.  I doubt it would work 
with the aspirin, pretty bitter stuff.

 

Gary

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From: catatonya 

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 

Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 12:31 PM

Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem

 

thanks. i had him going on the pill pockets until i added the amoxy and the 
baby aspirin. it was just too much and he started hiding from me. :(

t 

 

thank you for the link.  I went through this with another cat about 4 years 
ago (hyper-t) but she didn't hide from me.

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Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem -pilling shaft

[Chris]

I feel for you it ain't easy...  If Shaft was a 'street' cat, think like
he does-what would he tear through garbage bags in a dumpster for.  If I
push my Romeo too hard, he'll take off under some piece of furniture and
just stay there until he figures I've come to my senses!.  I've also used
liverwurst-makes a good little ball', has strong smell, etc.  Good for my
Tucson but NOT for Romeo.  For him, its Ham, Chicken, or Fish.  

You can buy one or two slices of various things to figure out what he'll go
crazy for.  My Misty, for example, LOVES gorgonzola or blue cheese-go
figure.  My LittleBoy loves Yogurt-will come running when he hears me open
the container.  And Bumper, well, she's a real piece of work and its always
a guess with herOne fringe benefit is that it gives me something I can
use in a pinch if I have to get any of the out from something they're hiding
under real quick.  I also give him these 'people' treats without pills
hidden in them just so that he stays used to getting them and won't balk
when I have to stash a piece of pill in it.

 

Christiane Biagi

914-632-4672

Cell:  914-720-6888

[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of catatonya
Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 12:33 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem -pilling shaft

 

I guess I will have to work on the treats.  I am vegetarian and have never
really given the cats treats, so they don't really know what they are.  Bob
thinks a pill pocket is a treat.  That's about it.  I'll have to break down
and buy some deli turkey, ham or something else I guess and give it a try.
Shaft was a 'street' cat.  Bob was born and has always lived with me.  He
has never had 'people' food

t

Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

My Tucson is on daily meds and  For Tuscon, we go through phases-she does
OK w. Pill Pockets for a while, then we go to making a little ball with her
favorite soft treat, then we might try the pill in a little ball of cheese
or ham, and then we resort to holding and popping pill in her mouth.  No one
thing works all the time but my saving grace is that this 18 lb porko LOVES
to eat!

 

Occasionally, I have to give meds to my Romeo who I CANNOT hold to pop a
pill in--it gets real tricky when he periodically needs antibiotics for
teeth/gum problems.  He won't go near Pill Pockets.  I tried compounding
meds in liquid form and he looked at me like was insane.  BUT, being the old
street cat that he is, he loves certain people foods-any cold cuts, fish,
and chicken.  I break up a pill into as many little pieces as I can and can
usually hide a little piece of a pill in treat sized 'ball' of one of those
foods.  Then he comes running cause its not food he usually gets and he
loves that so much more than the treats!  Of course, I have to watch cause
Tucson (who hates him  makes his life a misery), has n problem sliding
over next to him and stealing the new 'treat'!  

 

Bottom line, if you can think of some food he absolutely goes nuts for,
break up the pill and make little 'treats' (and keep your fingers crossed!)

 

Christiane Biagi

914-632-4672

Cell:  914-720-6888

[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of catatonya
Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 10:25 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem -pilling shaft

 

I really don't know if he's eating the canned food or the dry because he
won't come in the room when I feed them anymore because that's where I
started pilling him.   When he stopped coming in the room to be fed I
started pilling him when he came to bed.  Now he doesn't come to bed with me
anymore.  Then I started pilling him on his cat tree. Now he just stays
hidden and I have to search him out to pill him.

 

The past month has been hectic.  I was gone for a week on vacation before I
took him in to the vet.  Then we started his med.s. then my 4 year old
nephew came and stayed a week.  (the cats are afraid of him.)  then my
mother got sick and i've been having to stay with her some and been in and
out a lot.  i've also had workers at my house.  and i'm also trying to give
bob and sneaker  fluids which scares the other cats..  So it's just been one
thing after the other.

 

Shaft is usually very easy going, but he does not like these pills and will
not take them in food or pill pockets.  Those were my first tries.

 

tonya

gary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

What is he eating?

 

Gary

- Original Message - 

From: catatonya mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 

Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 3:03 PM

Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem

 

He won't come to me to eat canned food anymore. :(

t

gary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I've never had a problem with any cat by crushing amoxi tablets in food. Had
one cat on tapazole crushed in food with no problem.  I doubt it would work
with the aspirin, pretty bitter stuff.

 

Gary

Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem

[Debbie Harrison]

The wrong kind, obviously!!!Debbie (COL)You gotta bloom where you're planted!

Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 07:15:13 -0700From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]: Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problemyes, hyper thyroid is very common 
with cats. what kind of vet do you go toDebbie Harrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote: 


Question...is hyper-t hyper thyroid???  It is what I suspected with my Baby 
Ruben...but the vet says cats don't get thatI tried to argue the point, 
but she wouldn't listen...Debbie (COL)You gotta bloom where you're planted!

Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 08:26:08 -0700From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem
My cat Shaft has lost nearly half his body weight.  Everyone here has been so 
sick I just didn't realize it until a few weeks ago (a few days before I was 
leaving for a week's vacation).  I got him into the vet suspecting hyper-t as 
soon as I got back.  That's what it was.  The vet detected a heart murmer as 
well.  He is an estimated 18 years old.  He had a fever and the vet put him on 
some amoxy for that, as well as the tapazole, of course.
 
Problem.  He now hides and I have to chase him around to get any med.s down 
him.  I've given up on everything except the tapazole and he still hides.  
Should I stress him out with the chase down?  Crate him for a while?  He 
doesn't seem to be gaining ANY weight, and I have an appt. with vet again on 
Monday.  We were supposed to wait a month, but he's getting worse, not better.
 
Does anyone have the link to join the hyper-t group or any other advice?  I am 
quickly losing my mind. la la la la.
 
t

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Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem

[Debbie Harrison]

Oh yeah, she said it...we actually argued about itI have never felt 
completely comfortable with her diagnostic skills...Debbie (COL)You gotta 
bloom where you're planted!

Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 07:18:56 -0700From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]: Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem
Yes,
 
MC is known for being one of our most objective (cough) members.  But I have to 
agree with her.  Are you sure your vet actually said this
tMaryChristine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

okay, everyone, in harmony now, GET A NEW VET!it's a major problem now that 
cats are living long enough for it to manifest! if you like the vet, keep him 
for vaccinations and things, but if he doesn't know about this yet, he's not 
whom you need for your dear.as ever, objectively yours,MC
On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 4:52 PM, Debbie Harrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Question...is hyper-t hyper thyroid???  It is what I suspected with my Baby 
Ruben...but the vet says cats don't get thatI tried to argue the point, 
but she wouldn't listen...Debbie (COL)You gotta bloom where you're planted!

Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 08:26:08 -0700From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 
felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Subject: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem



My cat Shaft has lost nearly half his body weight.  Everyone here has been so 
sick I just didn't realize it until a few weeks ago (a few days before I was 
leaving for a week's vacation).  I got him into the vet suspecting hyper-t as 
soon as I got back.  That's what it was.  The vet detected a heart murmer as 
well.  He is an estimated 18 years old.  He had a fever and the vet put him on 
some amoxy for that, as well as the tapazole, of course.
 
Problem.  He now hides and I have to chase him around to get any med.s down 
him.  I've given up on everything except the tapazole and he still hides.  
Should I stress him out with the chase down?  Crate him for a while?  He 
doesn't seem to be gaining ANY weight, and I have an appt. with vet again on 
Monday.  We were supposed to wait a month, but he's getting worse, not better.
 
Does anyone have the link to join the hyper-t group or any other advice?  I am 
quickly losing my mind. la la la la.
 
t

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Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem

[catatonya]

lol. i meant does he specialize in cats or is he more of a 'dog' person

Debbie Harrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  .hmmessage P  {  margin:0px;  
padding:0px  }  body.hmmessage  {  FONT-SIZE: 10pt;  FONT-FAMILY:Tahoma  }
The wrong kind, obviously!!!

Debbie (COL)
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  Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 07:15:13 -0700
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem

yes, hyper thyroid is very common with cats. what kind of vet do you go to

Debbie Harrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   .ExternalClass .EC_hmmessage P 
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{font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma;}Question...is hyper-t hyper 
thyroid???  It is what I suspected with my Baby Ruben...but the vet says cats 
don't get thatI tried to argue the point, but she wouldn't listen...

Debbie (COL)
You gotta bloom where you're planted!


  
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  Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 08:26:08 -0700
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem

  My cat Shaft has lost nearly half his body weight.  Everyone here has been so 
sick I just didn't realize it until a few weeks ago (a few days before I was 
leaving for a week's vacation).  I got him into the vet suspecting hyper-t as 
soon as I got back.  That's what it was.  The vet detected a heart murmer as 
well.  He is an estimated 18 years old.  He had a fever and the vet put him on 
some amoxy for that, as well as the tapazole, of course.
   
  Problem.  He now hides and I have to chase him around to get any med.s down 
him.  I've given up on everything except the tapazole and he still hides.  
Should I stress him out with the chase down?  Crate him for a while?  He 
doesn't seem to be gaining ANY weight, and I have an appt. with vet again on 
Monday.  We were supposed to wait a month, but he's getting worse, not better.
   
  Does anyone have the link to join the hyper-t group or any other advice?  I 
am quickly losing my mind. la la la la.
   
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[Debbie Harrison]

Ok, to answer you then...she specializes in well animals!!  LOL...she hates 
doing any surgeries, and probably should never have become a vet (my personal 
opinion).Debbie (COL)You gotta bloom where you're planted!

Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 12:24:07 -0700From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]: Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problemlol. i meant does he specialize in 
cats or is he more of a 'dog' personDebbie Harrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote: 


The wrong kind, obviously!!!Debbie (COL)You gotta bloom where you're planted!

Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 07:15:13 -0700From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]: Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problemyes, hyper thyroid is very common 
with cats. what kind of vet do you go toDebbie Harrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote: 


Question...is hyper-t hyper thyroid???  It is what I suspected with my Baby 
Ruben...but the vet says cats don't get thatI tried to argue the point, 
but she wouldn't listen...Debbie (COL)You gotta bloom where you're planted!

Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 08:26:08 -0700From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem
My cat Shaft has lost nearly half his body weight.  Everyone here has been so 
sick I just didn't realize it until a few weeks ago (a few days before I was 
leaving for a week's vacation).  I got him into the vet suspecting hyper-t as 
soon as I got back.  That's what it was.  The vet detected a heart murmer as 
well.  He is an estimated 18 years old.  He had a fever and the vet put him on 
some amoxy for that, as well as the tapazole, of course.
 
Problem.  He now hides and I have to chase him around to get any med.s down 
him.  I've given up on everything except the tapazole and he still hides.  
Should I stress him out with the chase down?  Crate him for a while?  He 
doesn't seem to be gaining ANY weight, and I have an appt. with vet again on 
Monday.  We were supposed to wait a month, but he's getting worse, not better.
 
Does anyone have the link to join the hyper-t group or any other advice?  I am 
quickly losing my mind. la la la la.
 
t

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[Marylyn]

Time for another vet.
On Jul 20, 2008, at 3:06 PM, Debbie Harrison wrote:

Ok, to answer you then...she specializes in well animals!!   
LOL...she hates doing any surgeries, and probably should never have  
become a vet (my personal opinion).


Debbie (COL)
You gotta bloom where you're planted!


Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 12:24:07 -0700
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem

lol. i meant does he specialize in cats or is he more of a 'dog'  
person


Debbie Harrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The wrong kind, obviously!!!

Debbie (COL)
You gotta bloom where you're planted!


Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 07:15:13 -0700
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem

yes, hyper thyroid is very common with cats. what kind of vet do you  
go to


Debbie Harrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Question...is hyper-t hyper thyroid???  It is what I suspected  
with my Baby Ruben...but the vet says cats don't get thatI  
tried to argue the point, but she wouldn't listen...


Debbie (COL)
You gotta bloom where you're planted!


Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 08:26:08 -0700
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem

My cat Shaft has lost nearly half his body weight.  Everyone here  
has been so sick I just didn't realize it until a few weeks ago (a  
few days before I was leaving for a week's vacation).  I got him  
into the vet suspecting hyper-t as soon as I got back.  That's what  
it was.  The vet detected a heart murmer as well.  He is an  
estimated 18 years old.  He had a fever and the vet put him on some  
amoxy for that, as well as the tapazole, of course.


Problem.  He now hides and I have to chase him around to get any  
med.s down him.  I've given up on everything except the tapazole and  
he still hides.  Should I stress him out with the chase down?  Crate  
him for a while?  He doesn't seem to be gaining ANY weight, and I  
have an appt. with vet again on Monday.  We were supposed to wait a  
month, but he's getting worse, not better.


Does anyone have the link to join the hyper-t group or any other  
advice?  I am quickly losing my mind. la la la la.


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Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem

[MaryChristine]

and don't worry, debbie is WELL aware of my objectivity and lack of patience
with willful ignorance, from another part of my life/side of the
innerwebs and she STILL joined the list!



On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 4:06 PM, Debbie Harrison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

  Ok, to answer you then...she specializes in well animals!!  LOL...she
 hates doing any surgeries, and probably should never have become a vet (my
 personal opinion).

 Debbie (COL)
 You gotta bloom where you're planted!


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 Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 12:24:07 -0700

 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem

 lol. i meant does he specialize in cats or is he more of a 'dog' person

 *Debbie Harrison [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote:

 The wrong kind, obviously!!!

 Debbie (COL)
 You gotta bloom where you're planted!


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 Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 07:15:13 -0700
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem

 yes, hyper thyroid is very common with cats. what kind of vet do you go
 to

 *Debbie Harrison [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote:

 Question...is hyper-t hyper thyroid???  It is what I suspected with my
 Baby Ruben...but the vet says cats don't get thatI tried to argue the
 point, but she wouldn't listen...

 Debbie (COL)
 You gotta bloom where you're planted!


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 Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 08:26:08 -0700
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem

 My cat Shaft has lost nearly half his body weight.  Everyone here has been
 so sick I just didn't realize it until a few weeks ago (a few days before I
 was leaving for a week's vacation).  I got him into the vet suspecting
 hyper-t as soon as I got back.  That's what it was.  The vet detected a
 heart murmer as well.  He is an estimated 18 years old.  He had a fever and
 the vet put him on some amoxy for that, as well as the tapazole, of course.

 Problem.  He now hides and I have to chase him around to get any med.s down
 him.  I've given up on everything except the tapazole and he still hides.
 Should I stress him out with the chase down?  Crate him for a while?  He
 doesn't seem to be gaining ANY weight, and I have an appt. with vet again on
 Monday.  We were supposed to wait a month, but he's getting worse, not
 better.

 Does anyone have the link to join the hyper-t group or any other advice?  I
 am quickly losing my mind. la la la la.

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[Debbie Harrison]

Oh yes, I lubs mai fren MC!Debbie (COL)You gotta bloom where you're planted!

Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 18:15:25 -0400From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]: Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem
and don't worry, debbie is WELL aware of my objectivity and lack of patience 
with willful ignorance, from another part of my life/side of the innerwebs 
and she STILL joined the list!
On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 4:06 PM, Debbie Harrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Ok, to answer you then...she specializes in well animals!!  LOL...she hates 
doing any surgeries, and probably should never have become a vet (my personal 
opinion). 
Debbie (COL)You gotta bloom where you're planted!

Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 12:24:07 -0700 


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problemlol. 
i meant does he specialize in cats or is he more of a 'dog' personDebbie 
Harrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
The wrong kind, obviously!!!Debbie (COL)You gotta bloom where you're planted!

Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 07:15:13 -0700From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]: Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problemyes, hyper thyroid is very common 
with cats. what kind of vet do you go toDebbie Harrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote: 
Question...is hyper-t hyper thyroid???  It is what I suspected with my Baby 
Ruben...but the vet says cats don't get thatI tried to argue the point, 
but she wouldn't listen...Debbie (COL)You gotta bloom where you're planted!

Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 08:26:08 -0700From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem
My cat Shaft has lost nearly half his body weight.  Everyone here has been so 
sick I just didn't realize it until a few weeks ago (a few days before I was 
leaving for a week's vacation).  I got him into the vet suspecting hyper-t as 
soon as I got back.  That's what it was.  The vet detected a heart murmer as 
well.  He is an estimated 18 years old.  He had a fever and the vet put him on 
some amoxy for that, as well as the tapazole, of course.
 
Problem.  He now hides and I have to chase him around to get any med.s down 
him.  I've given up on everything except the tapazole and he still hides.  
Should I stress him out with the chase down?  Crate him for a while?  He 
doesn't seem to be gaining ANY weight, and I have an appt. with vet again on 
Monday.  We were supposed to wait a month, but he's getting worse, not better.
 
Does anyone have the link to join the hyper-t group or any other advice?  I am 
quickly losing my mind. la la la la.
 
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[catatonya]

My cat Shaft has lost nearly half his body weight.  Everyone here has been so 
sick I just didn't realize it until a few weeks ago (a few days before I was 
leaving for a week's vacation).  I got him into the vet suspecting hyper-t as 
soon as I got back.  That's what it was.  The vet detected a heart murmer as 
well.  He is an estimated 18 years old.  He had a fever and the vet put him on 
some amoxy for that, as well as the tapazole, of course.
   
  Problem.  He now hides and I have to chase him around to get any med.s down 
him.  I've given up on everything except the tapazole and he still hides.  
Should I stress him out with the chase down?  Crate him for a while?  He 
doesn't seem to be gaining ANY weight, and I have an appt. with vet again on 
Monday.  We were supposed to wait a month, but he's getting worse, not better.
   
  Does anyone have the link to join the hyper-t group or any other advice?  I 
am quickly losing my mind. la la la la.
   
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[Sharyl]

Tonya, I don't belong to this group.  It is listed in the Links on the Assist 
Feeding Group. 
Feline Hyperthyroid (also Hypothyroid welcome) 
http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/feline-hyperT/?yguid=167334211
 
Some folks have good luck with Pill Pockets.  Most vets carry them.  Pets Mart 
may as well.  Mine caught on the 2nd dose  and now avoid them like the plague.  
 
Pequita would get hysterical and foam at the mouth whenever I tried to pill 
her.  But she loves Gerber 2 Chicken and Gravy baby food.  I crush her meds, 
dissolve them in 1-2 cc of water and add them to a couple of tsp of Gerbers.  
She laps it right up.
 
Shaft really needs the Tapazole to get his thyroid regulated.  If Pill Pockets 
don't work try the baby food.  Any meat variety works just make sure it doesn't 
have onions or garlic in it.    Also the Gerber 2 Chicken and gravy has 100 
calories per jar so it would help with the wt issue.
Sharyl

--- On Sat, 7/19/08, catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

From: catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Saturday, July 19, 2008, 11:26 AM



My cat Shaft has lost nearly half his body weight.  Everyone here has been so 
sick I just didn't realize it until a few weeks ago (a few days before I was 
leaving for a week's vacation).  I got him into the vet suspecting hyper-t as 
soon as I got back.  That's what it was.  The vet detected a heart murmer as 
well.  He is an estimated 18 years old.  He had a fever and the vet put him on 
some amoxy for that, as well as the tapazole, of course.
 
Problem.  He now hides and I have to chase him around to get any med.s down 
him.  I've given up on everything except the tapazole and he still hides.  
Should I stress him out with the chase down?  Crate him for a while?  He 
doesn't seem to be gaining ANY weight, and I have an appt. with vet again on 
Monday.  We were supposed to wait a month, but he's getting worse, not better.
 
Does anyone have the link to join the hyper-t group or any other advice?  I am 
quickly losing my mind. la la la la.
 
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[catatonya]

thanks. i had him going on the pill pockets until i added the amoxy and the 
baby aspirin. it was just too much and he started hiding from me. :(
  t 
   
  thank you for the link.  I went through this with another cat about 4 years 
ago (hyper-t) but she didn't hide from me.
  t

Sharyl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Tonya, I don't belong to this group.  It is listed in the Links on 
the Assist Feeding Group. 
  Feline Hyperthyroid (also Hypothyroid welcome) 
http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/feline-hyperT/?yguid=167334211
   
  Some folks have good luck with Pill Pockets.  Most vets carry them.  Pets 
Mart may as well.  Mine caught on the 2nd dose  and now avoid them like the 
plague.  
   
  Pequita would get hysterical and foam at the mouth whenever I tried to pill 
her.  But she loves Gerber 2 Chicken and Gravy baby food.  I crush her meds, 
dissolve them in 1-2 cc of water and add them to a couple of tsp of Gerbers.  
She laps it right up.
   
  Shaft really needs the Tapazole to get his thyroid regulated.  If Pill 
Pockets don't work try the baby food.  Any meat variety works just make sure it 
doesn't have onions or garlic in it.Also the Gerber 2 Chicken and gravy has 
100 calories per jar so it would help with the wt issue.
  Sharyl

--- On Sat, 7/19/08, catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  From: catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Saturday, July 19, 2008, 11:26 AM

My cat Shaft has lost nearly half his body weight.  Everyone here has been 
so sick I just didn't realize it until a few weeks ago (a few days before I was 
leaving for a week's vacation).  I got him into the vet suspecting hyper-t as 
soon as I got back.  That's what it was.  The vet detected a heart murmer as 
well.  He is an estimated 18 years old.  He had a fever and the vet put him on 
some amoxy for that, as well as the tapazole, of course.
   
  Problem.  He now hides and I have to chase him around to get any med.s down 
him.  I've given up on everything except the tapazole and he still hides.  
Should I stress him out with the chase down?  Crate him for a while?  He 
doesn't seem to be gaining ANY weight, and I have an appt. with vet again on 
Monday.  We were supposed to wait a month, but he's getting worse, not better.
   
  Does anyone have the link to join the hyper-t group or any other advice?  I 
am quickly losing my mind. la la la la.
   
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[catatonya]

lol. i was still a member, just set to no mail. doh!

Sharyl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Tonya, I don't belong to this 
group.  It is listed in the Links on the Assist Feeding Group. 
  Feline Hyperthyroid (also Hypothyroid welcome) 
http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/feline-hyperT/?yguid=167334211
   
  Some folks have good luck with Pill Pockets.  Most vets carry them.  Pets 
Mart may as well.  Mine caught on the 2nd dose  and now avoid them like the 
plague.  
   
  Pequita would get hysterical and foam at the mouth whenever I tried to pill 
her.  But she loves Gerber 2 Chicken and Gravy baby food.  I crush her meds, 
dissolve them in 1-2 cc of water and add them to a couple of tsp of Gerbers.  
She laps it right up.
   
  Shaft really needs the Tapazole to get his thyroid regulated.  If Pill 
Pockets don't work try the baby food.  Any meat variety works just make sure it 
doesn't have onions or garlic in it.Also the Gerber 2 Chicken and gravy has 
100 calories per jar so it would help with the wt issue.
  Sharyl

--- On Sat, 7/19/08, catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  From: catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Saturday, July 19, 2008, 11:26 AM

My cat Shaft has lost nearly half his body weight.  Everyone here has been 
so sick I just didn't realize it until a few weeks ago (a few days before I was 
leaving for a week's vacation).  I got him into the vet suspecting hyper-t as 
soon as I got back.  That's what it was.  The vet detected a heart murmer as 
well.  He is an estimated 18 years old.  He had a fever and the vet put him on 
some amoxy for that, as well as the tapazole, of course.
   
  Problem.  He now hides and I have to chase him around to get any med.s down 
him.  I've given up on everything except the tapazole and he still hides.  
Should I stress him out with the chase down?  Crate him for a while?  He 
doesn't seem to be gaining ANY weight, and I have an appt. with vet again on 
Monday.  We were supposed to wait a month, but he's getting worse, not better.
   
  Does anyone have the link to join the hyper-t group or any other advice?  I 
am quickly losing my mind. la la la la.
   
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Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem

[gary]

I've never had a problem with any cat by crushing amoxi tablets in food. Had 
one cat on tapazole crushed in food with no problem.  I doubt it would work 
with the aspirin, pretty bitter stuff.

Gary
  - Original Message - 
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  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 12:31 PM
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem


  thanks. i had him going on the pill pockets until i added the amoxy and the 
baby aspirin. it was just too much and he started hiding from me. :(
  t 

  thank you for the link.  I went through this with another cat about 4 years 
ago (hyper-t) but she didn't hide from me.
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[catatonya]

He won't come to me to eat canned food anymore. :(
  t

gary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I've never had a problem with any cat by crushing amoxi tablets in 
food. Had one cat on tapazole crushed in food with no problem.  I doubt it 
would work with the aspirin, pretty bitter stuff.
   
  Gary
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  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 12:31 PM
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem
  

  thanks. i had him going on the pill pockets until i added the amoxy and the 
baby aspirin. it was just too much and he started hiding from me. :(
  t 
   
  thank you for the link.  I went through this with another cat about 4 years 
ago (hyper-t) but she didn't hide from me.
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Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem

[Debbie Harrison]

Question...is hyper-t hyper thyroid???  It is what I suspected with my Baby 
Ruben...but the vet says cats don't get thatI tried to argue the point, 
but she wouldn't listen...Debbie (COL)You gotta bloom where you're planted!

Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 08:26:08 -0700From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem
My cat Shaft has lost nearly half his body weight.  Everyone here has been so 
sick I just didn't realize it until a few weeks ago (a few days before I was 
leaving for a week's vacation).  I got him into the vet suspecting hyper-t as 
soon as I got back.  That's what it was.  The vet detected a heart murmer as 
well.  He is an estimated 18 years old.  He had a fever and the vet put him on 
some amoxy for that, as well as the tapazole, of course.
 
Problem.  He now hides and I have to chase him around to get any med.s down 
him.  I've given up on everything except the tapazole and he still hides.  
Should I stress him out with the chase down?  Crate him for a while?  He 
doesn't seem to be gaining ANY weight, and I have an appt. with vet again on 
Monday.  We were supposed to wait a month, but he's getting worse, not better.
 
Does anyone have the link to join the hyper-t group or any other advice?  I am 
quickly losing my mind. la la la la.
 
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[MaryChristine]

okay, everyone, in harmony now, GET A NEW VET!

it's a major problem now that cats are living long enough for it to
manifest! if you like the vet, keep him for vaccinations and things, but if
he doesn't know about this yet, he's not whom you need for your dear.

as ever, objectively yours,

MC



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wrote:

  Question...is hyper-t hyper thyroid???  It is what I suspected with my
 Baby Ruben...but the vet says cats don't get thatI tried to argue the
 point, but she wouldn't listen...

 Debbie (COL)
 You gotta bloom where you're planted!


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 Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 08:26:08 -0700
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem

 My cat Shaft has lost nearly half his body weight.  Everyone here has been
 so sick I just didn't realize it until a few weeks ago (a few days before I
 was leaving for a week's vacation).  I got him into the vet suspecting
 hyper-t as soon as I got back.  That's what it was.  The vet detected a
 heart murmer as well.  He is an estimated 18 years old.  He had a fever and
 the vet put him on some amoxy for that, as well as the tapazole, of course.

 Problem.  He now hides and I have to chase him around to get any med.s down
 him.  I've given up on everything except the tapazole and he still hides.
 Should I stress him out with the chase down?  Crate him for a while?  He
 doesn't seem to be gaining ANY weight, and I have an appt. with vet again on
 Monday.  We were supposed to wait a month, but he's getting worse, not
 better.

 Does anyone have the link to join the hyper-t group or any other advice?  I
 am quickly losing my mind. la la la la.

 t

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[gary]

What is he eating?

Gary
  - Original Message - 
  From: catatonya 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 3:03 PM
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem


  He won't come to me to eat canned food anymore. :(
  t

  gary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've never had a problem with any cat by crushing amoxi tablets in food. 
Had one cat on tapazole crushed in food with no problem.  I doubt it would work 
with the aspirin, pretty bitter stuff.

Gary
  - Original Message - 
  From: catatonya 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 12:31 PM
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem


  thanks. i had him going on the pill pockets until i added the amoxy and 
the baby aspirin. it was just too much and he started hiding from me. :(
  t 

  thank you for the link.  I went through this with another cat about 4 
years ago (hyper-t) but she didn't hide from me.
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Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem

[Marylyn]

If you can crate him and cover his crate with a sheet sprayed with  
Feliway it might helpmaybe put Rescue Rememdy in his water.
On Jul 19, 2008, at 10:26 AM, catatonya wrote:

 My cat Shaft has lost nearly half his body weight.  Everyone here  
 has been so sick I just didn't realize it until a few weeks ago (a  
 few days before I was leaving for a week's vacation).  I got him  
 into the vet suspecting hyper-t as soon as I got back.  That's what  
 it was.  The vet detected a heart murmer as well.  He is an  
 estimated 18 years old.  He had a fever and the vet put him on some  
 amoxy for that, as well as the tapazole, of course.

 Problem.  He now hides and I have to chase him around to get any  
 med.s down him.  I've given up on everything except the tapazole and  
 he still hides.  Should I stress him out with the chase down?  Crate  
 him for a while?  He doesn't seem to be gaining ANY weight, and I  
 have an appt. with vet again on Monday.  We were supposed to wait a  
 month, but he's getting worse, not better.

 Does anyone have the link to join the hyper-t group or any other  
 advice?  I am quickly losing my mind. la la la la.

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[Sharyl]

Debbie, if your vet doesn't think cats get hyperthyroidism then you desperately 
need to find a new vet.  Here is a link to more info.
http://www.marvistavet.com/html/thyroid.html
Most folks start out treating with meds to see how the cats responds.  Some 
will be candidates for radiotherapy.  Be aware that may cats are dx with CRF 
after the thyroid issues are resolved.  Hyper T tends to hide CRF.
Sharyl

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From: Debbie Harrison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Saturday, July 19, 2008, 4:52 PM




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Question...is hyper-t hyper thyroid???  It is what I suspected with my Baby 
Ruben...but the vet says cats don't get thatI tried to argue the point, 
but she wouldn't listen...

Debbie (COL)
You gotta bloom where you're planted!




Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 08:26:08 -0700
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem


My cat Shaft has lost nearly half his body weight.  Everyone here has been so 
sick I just didn't realize it until a few weeks ago (a few days before I was 
leaving for a week's vacation).  I got him into the vet suspecting hyper-t as 
soon as I got back.  That's what it was.  The vet detected a heart murmer as 
well.  He is an estimated 18 years old.  He had a fever and the vet put him on 
some amoxy for that, as well as the tapazole, of course.
 
Problem.  He now hides and I have to chase him around to get any med.s down 
him.  I've given up on everything except the tapazole and he still hides.  
Should I stress him out with the chase down?  Crate him for a while?  He 
doesn't seem to be gaining ANY weight, and I have an appt. with vet again on 
Monday.  We were supposed to wait a month, but he's getting worse, not better.
 
Does anyone have the link to join the hyper-t group or any other advice?  I am 
quickly losing my mind. la la la la.
 
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[Pat Kachur]

I completely agreeI have had three cats over the years who had this 
disease.  And many people I know have also had cats who suffered from it.   
Can't imagine a vet not knowing.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Sharyl 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 6:10 PM
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem


Debbie, if your vet doesn't think cats get hyperthyroidism then you 
desperately need to find a new vet.  Here is a link to more info.

http://www.marvistavet.com/html/thyroid.html
Most folks start out treating with meds to see how the cats responds.  
Some will be candidates for radiotherapy.  Be aware that may cats are dx with 
CRF after the thyroid issues are resolved.  Hyper T tends to hide CRF.

Sharyl


--- On Sat, 7/19/08, Debbie Harrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


  From: Debbie Harrison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Date: Saturday, July 19, 2008, 4:52 PM


  Question...is hyper-t hyper thyroid???  It is what I suspected with 
my Baby Ruben...but the vet says cats don't get thatI tried to argue the 
point, but she wouldn't listen...

  Debbie (COL)
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  Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 08:26:08 -0700
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem


  My cat Shaft has lost nearly half his body weight.  Everyone here has 
been so sick I just didn't realize it until a few weeks ago (a few days before 
I was leaving for a week's vacation).  I got him into the vet suspecting 
hyper-t as soon as I got back.  That's what it was.  The vet detected a heart 
murmer as well.  He is an estimated 18 years old.  He had a fever and the vet 
put him on some amoxy for that, as well as the tapazole, of course.

  Problem.  He now hides and I have to chase him around to get any 
med.s down him.  I've given up on everything except the tapazole and he still 
hides.  Should I stress him out with the chase down?  Crate him for a while?  
He doesn't seem to be gaining ANY weight, and I have an appt. with vet again on 
Monday.  We were supposed to wait a month, but he's getting worse, not better.

  Does anyone have the link to join the hyper-t group or any other 
advice?  I am quickly losing my mind. la la la la.

  t


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Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem

[Sharyl]

If he has had the run of the house crating him may feel like punishment to 
him.   I give mine safe places.  When they are in their safe place I don't mess 
with them.  I also make a point of picking them up for some love every time we 
cross paths.  I don't want them to think the only time I pick them up is for 
meds.  I'm short on space so I have storage tubs under the beds eliminating 
that as a hiding space.
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From: Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Saturday, July 19, 2008, 5:23 PM

If you can crate him and cover his crate with a sheet sprayed with  
Feliway it might helpmaybe put Rescue Rememdy in his water.
On Jul 19, 2008, at 10:26 AM, catatonya wrote:

 My cat Shaft has lost nearly half his body weight.  Everyone here  
 has been so sick I just didn't realize it until a few weeks ago (a  
 few days before I was leaving for a week's vacation).  I got him  
 into the vet suspecting hyper-t as soon as I got back.  That's what  
 it was.  The vet detected a heart murmer as well.  He is an  
 estimated 18 years old.  He had a fever and the vet put him on some  
 amoxy for that, as well as the tapazole, of course.

 Problem.  He now hides and I have to chase him around to get any  
 med.s down him.  I've given up on everything except the tapazole and  
 he still hides.  Should I stress him out with the chase down?  Crate  
 him for a while?  He doesn't seem to be gaining ANY weight, and I  
 have an appt. with vet again on Monday.  We were supposed to wait a  
 month, but he's getting worse, not better.

 Does anyone have the link to join the hyper-t group or any other  
 advice?  I am quickly losing my mind. la la la la.

 t
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Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem

[Diane Rosenfeldt]

LOL, MC!  But absolutely correctamundo.  At one point we had two hyper-t
cats, and they took the same pills (tapezole/methimazole) in different
dosages.  We used to keep whole, half and quarter pills pre-cut in 3
separate pill bottles.  Pill splitting day was like an exercise in higher
math...  I can't imagine a vet not knowing about hyper-t in cats!!  But the
upside is it's pretty treatable and the pills aren't outrageously expensive,
if you go the pill route.  I understand it can also be compounded into a
cream and rubbed onto their ears but my vet doesn't think it's as effective
that way.
 
Diane R.

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MaryChristine
Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 3:55 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem


okay, everyone, in harmony now, GET A NEW VET!

it's a major problem now that cats are living long enough for it to
manifest! if you like the vet, keep him for vaccinations and things, but if
he doesn't know about this yet, he's not whom you need for your dear.

as ever, objectively yours,

MC




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wrote:


Question...is hyper-t hyper thyroid???  It is what I suspected with my
Baby Ruben...but the vet says cats don't get thatI tried to argue the
point, but she wouldn't listen...

Debbie (COL)
You gotta bloom where you're planted!



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Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 08:26:08 -0700
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 

Subject: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem


My cat Shaft has lost nearly half his body weight.  Everyone here has been
so sick I just didn't realize it until a few weeks ago (a few days before I
was leaving for a week's vacation).  I got him into the vet suspecting
hyper-t as soon as I got back.  That's what it was.  The vet detected a
heart murmer as well.  He is an estimated 18 years old.  He had a fever and
the vet put him on some amoxy for that, as well as the tapazole, of course.
 
Problem.  He now hides and I have to chase him around to get any med.s down
him.  I've given up on everything except the tapazole and he still hides.
Should I stress him out with the chase down?  Crate him for a while?  He
doesn't seem to be gaining ANY weight, and I have an appt. with vet again on
Monday.  We were supposed to wait a month, but he's getting worse, not
better.
 
Does anyone have the link to join the hyper-t group or any other advice?  I
am quickly losing my mind. la la la la.
 
t

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Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem

[Debbie Harrison]

Thanks for the linkI printed it out and will mail it to the vet.Debbie 
(COL)You gotta bloom where you're planted!

Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 15:10:28 -0700From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL 
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Debbie, if your vet doesn't think cats get hyperthyroidism then you desperately 
need to find a new vet.  Here is a link to more info.
http://www.marvistavet.com/html/thyroid.htmlMost folks start out treating with 
meds to see how the cats responds.  Some will be candidates for radiotherapy.  
Be aware that may cats are dx with CRF after the thyroid issues are resolved.  
Hyper T tends to hide CRF.
Sharyl
--- On Sat, 7/19/08, Debbie Harrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Debbie Harrison [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next 
problemTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Saturday, July 19, 2008, 4:52 PM


Question...is hyper-t hyper thyroid???  It is what I suspected with my Baby 
Ruben...but the vet says cats don't get thatI tried to argue the point, 
but she wouldn't listen...Debbie (COL)You gotta bloom where you're planted!

Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 08:26:08 -0700From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem
My cat Shaft has lost nearly half his body weight.  Everyone here has been so 
sick I just didn't realize it until a few weeks ago (a few days before I was 
leaving for a week's vacation).  I got him into the vet suspecting hyper-t as 
soon as I got back.  That's what it was.  The vet detected a heart murmer as 
well.  He is an estimated 18 years old.  He had a fever and the vet put him on 
some amoxy for that, as well as the tapazole, of course.
 
Problem.  He now hides and I have to chase him around to get any med.s down 
him.  I've given up on everything except the tapazole and he still hides.  
Should I stress him out with the chase down?  Crate him for a while?  He 
doesn't seem to be gaining ANY weight, and I have an appt. with vet again on 
Monday.  We were supposed to wait a month, but he's getting worse, not better.
 
Does anyone have the link to join the hyper-t group or any other advice?  I am 
quickly losing my mind. la la la la.
 
t

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Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem

[Lynne]

Our 19 year old was diagnosed with this almost a year ago.  He hasn't gained 
any weight back from what I can tell but he had suffered from itchy skin which 
has resolved since putting him on medication.  He has very little muscle mass 
on him and is generally having issues associated with being very old: senility, 
deafness etc, but we think being on thyroid medication has helped him a lot.  
We have the pharmacy make it into a transdermal which is easily given to him 
inside his ears.  He thinks he's getting an ear massage and enjoys it.  As for 
it not being as effective, our vet felt the pills would be better, but the 
pharmacist explained to me the difference between the two and in her opinion 
the transdermal way is more effective.  She's an aminal pharmacist as well as a 
human one so I trust her.  I divide the dose in two and give it to him twice a 
day.  

Lynne
  - Original Message - 
  From: Diane Rosenfeldt 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 6:42 PM
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem


  LOL, MC!  But absolutely correctamundo.  At one point we had two hyper-t 
cats, and they took the same pills (tapezole/methimazole) in different dosages. 
 We used to keep whole, half and quarter pills pre-cut in 3 separate pill 
bottles.  Pill splitting day was like an exercise in higher math...  I can't 
imagine a vet not knowing about hyper-t in cats!!  But the upside is it's 
pretty treatable and the pills aren't outrageously expensive, if you go the 
pill route.  I understand it can also be compounded into a cream and rubbed 
onto their ears but my vet doesn't think it's as effective that way.

  Diane R.



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  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem


  okay, everyone, in harmony now, GET A NEW VET!

  it's a major problem now that cats are living long enough for it to manifest! 
if you like the vet, keep him for vaccinations and things, but if he doesn't 
know about this yet, he's not whom you need for your dear.

  as ever, objectively yours,

  MC




  On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 4:52 PM, Debbie Harrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Question...is hyper-t hyper thyroid???  It is what I suspected with my 
Baby Ruben...but the vet says cats don't get thatI tried to argue the 
point, but she wouldn't listen...

Debbie (COL)
You gotta bloom where you're planted!




Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 08:26:08 -0700
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 

Subject: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem


My cat Shaft has lost nearly half his body weight.  Everyone here has been 
so sick I just didn't realize it until a few weeks ago (a few days before I was 
leaving for a week's vacation).  I got him into the vet suspecting hyper-t as 
soon as I got back.  That's what it was.  The vet detected a heart murmer as 
well.  He is an estimated 18 years old.  He had a fever and the vet put him on 
some amoxy for that, as well as the tapazole, of course.

Problem.  He now hides and I have to chase him around to get any med.s down 
him.  I've given up on everything except the tapazole and he still hides.  
Should I stress him out with the chase down?  Crate him for a while?  He 
doesn't seem to be gaining ANY weight, and I have an appt. with vet again on 
Monday.  We were supposed to wait a month, but he's getting worse, not better.

Does anyone have the link to join the hyper-t group or any other advice?  I 
am quickly losing my mind. la la la la.

t




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Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem

[Belinda Sauro]

  We discovered Freds early CRF when we were checking him for hyper-t, 
barely hyper-t also, we were watching him for that because he had a very 
tiny bump there, but his thyroid test was normal, including the TFree4.  
Once my vet felt like it had gotten a bit bigger we tested again and he 
was very slightly hyper-t.  He had the radio iodine treatment and his 
CRF did initially get worse but has since stabalized, his last blood 
work in March was very close to normal.

 Most folks start out treating with meds to see how the cats responds.  
 Some will be candidates for radiotherapy.  Be aware that many cats are 
 dx with CRF after the thyroid issues are resolved.  Hyper T tends to 
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