Re: [Felvtalk] stray kitten positive any advice for me/ flow charts for testing

2011-11-09 Thread Beth
An IFA will tell you if the virus is replicating in the bone marrow. Once that 
happens the virus will not go away, so If you want to be sure he is positive  
will not throw off the virus you could do that. It does cost close to $100 if I 
remember correctly.
Even FeLV kitties who are initially sick can get better  stay healthy for 
awhile. Most of mine were strays  not in good health to begin with. You just 
never know. Some I've had for a week, some for years.

Beth

 Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org
 



From: dppl dppl dppl1...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tuesday, November 8, 2011 6:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] stray kitten positive any advice for me/ flow charts 
for testing


I'm sorry I haven't figured out how to reply to specific threads, maybe because 
I receive a digest instead of each post.  I'm using this site 
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org to 
access the threads.  If someone can point me in the right direction about how 
to properly use this site I would appreciate it. I'm sure it is somewhere in 
the intro msg but I'm not thinking too clearly.  When I have a sick animal, I 
get very upset.  Anyway, I wanted to throw out what the vet who diagnosed this 
stray kitten using a elise test that was sent to a lab (not done at her office) 
 told me today..  She said she called to find the latest protocols about 
retesting and said that one way is to wait 30 days and repeat the test but the 
other way is to do an IFA now and I would know once and for all if the kitten 
is truely positive. I questioned her about what I was reading on the internet 
about waiting a longer period to see if the
 cat reverts or sheds, but she said this is what she was told is the latest 
protocol.   I did read some of you about your cats coming back negative after 
retesting and this gave me hope.
 
  Mitt (for Mittens) b/c he has them is eating well and his bad breath went 
away I guess from the antibiotics he is on. but tonight I saw he has 
dandruff/scaling in his fur on the outer ear.  Now I fear he does have a 
compromised immune system and a skin disease.  So I am bringing him back to the 
vet on thurs to get this IFA test and for her to look at the skin and tell me 
what it is.   I'm not sure I can handle a chronically ill cat again.  I took 
care of one of my older cats in the final stages of  kidney failure for a year, 
including giving fluids but there was no issue of keeping separate and fear of 
spreading illnesses to my other cats.  My remaining  4 cats were former 
strays/ferals that were over a year old when i took them in. I got them 
sterilized but never kept up on shots and testing  b/c I kept them inside and 
figured since they all lived outside more or less together if they had 
something they all probably had it by then.  I've
 had them all over 11 years.  I have yet to find a really good vet where I 
live. Most just push vaccinations and flea treatments. Most don't deal with 
stray cats. I've been calling around cat rescues and those that take positive 
cats are full and apparently the protocol here is that when they bring in 
strays/ferals to be sterilzied, they give them a SNAP test (is that an elise 
test) and if they test positive, they euthanize them apparently b/c they will 
not return them to the colonies to spread the disease. So most don't have 
experience treating cats with this illness. 
 
Anyway, thanks to anyone who made it thru this msg and has any further comment.

From: dppl dppl dppl1...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Monday, November 7, 2011 8:33 PM
Subject: Re: stray kitten positive any advice for me


 
thank you all for responding so quickly.  when i have more time I will review 
all archives. I hope i am posting correctly by sending these emails.  I see my 
post  is all chopped up (at least in my display ). Thanks for your advice.  I 
guess i will take things day by day.  thanks also for the  advice to get the 
other test as a follow up.i can only hope it turns out negative. I am worried 
about the redness of his gums which he is on an antibiotic for. Vet attributed 
it to gingivitis and teething but this was pre finding out the positive test 
results.

From: dppl dppl dppl1...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Monday, November 7, 2011 6:52 PM
Subject: stray kitten positive any advice for me


I came across this site, having just been informed by the vet that the 
abandoned kitten I took in three weeks ago. Before I took it to the vet,  I 
have been keeping it in a separate room but admit that since it seemed so 
healthy I let it out for little walks.  I have 4 cats over 12 years old. Other 
than walking on the same floors, they have not had contact with this kitten.  
In our short phone call, the vet basically said that she would understand if I 
euthanized

Re: [Felvtalk] stray kitten positive any advice for me/ flow charts for testing

2011-11-08 Thread dppl dppl
I'm sorry I haven't figured out how to reply to specific threads, maybe because 
I receive a digest instead of each post.  I'm using this site 
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org to 
access the threads.  If someone can point me in the right direction about how 
to properly use this site I would appreciate it. I'm sure it is somewhere in 
the intro msg but I'm not thinking too clearly.  When I have a sick animal, I 
get very upset.  Anyway, I wanted to throw out what the vet who diagnosed this 
stray kitten using a elise test that was sent to a lab (not done at her office) 
 told me today..  She said she called to find the latest protocols about 
retesting and said that one way is to wait 30 days and repeat the test but the 
other way is to do an IFA now and I would know once and for all if the kitten 
is truely positive. I questioned her about what I was reading on the internet 
about waiting a longer period to see if the
 cat reverts or sheds, but she said this is what she was told is the latest 
protocol.   I did read some of you about your cats coming back negative after 
retesting and this gave me hope.
 
  Mitt (for Mittens) b/c he has them is eating well and his bad breath went 
away I guess from the antibiotics he is on. but tonight I saw he has 
dandruff/scaling in his fur on the outer ear.  Now I fear he does have a 
compromised immune system and a skin disease.  So I am bringing him back to the 
vet on thurs to get this IFA test and for her to look at the skin and tell me 
what it is.   I'm not sure I can handle a chronically ill cat again.  I took 
care of one of my older cats in the final stages of  kidney failure for a year, 
including giving fluids but there was no issue of keeping separate and fear of 
spreading illnesses to my other cats.  My remaining  4 cats were former 
strays/ferals that were over a year old when i took them in. I got them 
sterilized but never kept up on shots and testing  b/c I kept them inside and 
figured since they all lived outside more or less together if they had 
something they all probably had it by then.  I've
 had them all over 11 years.  I have yet to find a really good vet where I 
live. Most just push vaccinations and flea treatments. Most don't deal with 
stray cats. I've been calling around cat rescues and those that take positive 
cats are full and apparently the protocol here is that when they bring in 
strays/ferals to be sterilzied, they give them a SNAP test (is that an elise 
test) and if they test positive, they euthanize them apparently b/c they will 
not return them to the colonies to spread the disease. So most don't have 
experience treating cats with this illness. 
 
Anyway, thanks to anyone who made it thru this msg and has any further comment.



From: dppl dppl dppl1...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Monday, November 7, 2011 8:33 PM
Subject: Re: stray kitten positive any advice for me


 
thank you all for responding so quickly.  when i have more time I will review 
all archives. I hope i am posting correctly by sending these emails.  I see my 
post  is all chopped up (at least in my display ). Thanks for your advice.  I 
guess i will take things day by day.  thanks also for the  advice to get the 
other test as a follow up.i can only hope it turns out negative. I am worried 
about the redness of his gums which he is on an antibiotic for. Vet attributed 
it to gingivitis and teething but this was pre finding out the positive test 
results.



From: dppl dppl dppl1...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Monday, November 7, 2011 6:52 PM
Subject: stray kitten positive any advice for me


I came across this site, having just been informed by the vet that the 
abandoned kitten I took in three weeks ago. Before I took it to the vet,  I 
have been keeping it in a separate room but admit that since it seemed so 
healthy I let it out for little walks.  I have 4 cats over 12 years old. Other 
than walking on the same floors, they have not had contact with this kitten.  
In our short phone call, the vet basically said that she would understand if I 
euthanized the cat and that she wasn't sure about false positive and whether 
retesting would be worthwhile. The cat also has hookworms.  When I took the cat 
in, she suggested that I give it its vaccinations before waiting for test 
results.  I asked if the cat turned out postitive, wouldn't this harm its 
immune system.  she said no.  Now when she called she said she was surprised 
that the cat tested positive since, other than the sore gums, which she 
attirbuted to teething and bad breath, she said it
 seemed healthy.  It does seem healthy , eats well and plays. and is the 
sweetest cat, loving and intelligent.  I am heartbroken about this. I'm sorry I 
haven't had time to read all archives but I work from home and 

Re: [Felvtalk] stray kitten positive any advice for me/ flow charts for testing

2011-11-08 Thread Marcia
I guess the fact of the matter is, is that your kitten can live a very healthy 
life. If she tests positive, it doesn't necessarily  mean that she will be 
chronically ill. I really think that good nutrition also plays an enormous role 
in keeping them healthy. It's a very tough decision.  I feel for you. Best of 
luck to you and your little one.
Marcia

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 8, 2011, at 5:07 PM, dppl dppl dppl1...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I'm sorry I haven't figured out how to reply to specific threads, maybe 
 because I receive a digest instead of each post.  I'm using this site 
 http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org to 
 access the threads.  If someone can point me in the right direction about how 
 to properly use this site I would appreciate it. I'm sure it is somewhere in 
 the intro msg but I'm not thinking too clearly.  When I have a sick animal, I 
 get very upset.  Anyway, I wanted to throw out what the vet who diagnosed 
 this stray kitten using a elise test that was sent to a lab (not done at her 
 office)  told me today..  She said she called to find the latest protocols 
 about retesting and said that one way is to wait 30 days and repeat the test 
 but the other way is to do an IFA now and I would know once and for all if 
 the kitten is truely positive. I questioned her about what I was reading on 
 the internet about waiting a longer period to see if the cat reverts or 
 sheds, but she said this is what she was told is the latest protocol.   I did 
 read some of you about your cats coming back negative after retesting and 
 this gave me hope.
  
   Mitt (for Mittens) b/c he has them is eating well and his bad breath went 
 away I guess from the antibiotics he is on. but tonight I saw he has 
 dandruff/scaling in his fur on the outer ear.  Now I fear he does have a 
 compromised immune system and a skin disease.  So I am bringing him back to 
 the vet on thurs to get this IFA test and for her to look at the skin and 
 tell me what it is.   I'm not sure I can handle a chronically ill cat again.  
 I took care of one of my older cats in the final stages of  kidney failure 
 for a year, including giving fluids but there was no issue of keeping 
 separate and fear of spreading illnesses to my other cats.  My remaining  4 
 cats were former strays/ferals that were over a year old when i took them in. 
 I got them sterilized but never kept up on shots and testing  b/c I kept them 
 inside and figured since they all lived outside more or less together if they 
 had something they all probably had it by then.  I've had them all over 11 
 years.  I have yet to find a really good vet where I live. Most just push 
 vaccinations and flea treatments. Most don't deal with stray cats. I've been 
 calling around cat rescues and those that take positive cats are full and 
 apparently the protocol here is that when they bring in strays/ferals to be 
 sterilzied, they give them a SNAP test (is that an elise test) and if they 
 test positive, they euthanize them apparently b/c they will not return them 
 to the colonies to spread the disease. So most don't have experience treating 
 cats with this illness.
  
 Anyway, thanks to anyone who made it thru this msg and has any further 
 comment.
 
 From: dppl dppl dppl1...@yahoo.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Monday, November 7, 2011 8:33 PM
 Subject: Re: stray kitten positive any advice for me
 
  
 thank you all for responding so quickly.  when i have more time I will review 
 all archives. I hope i am posting correctly by sending these emails.  I see 
 my post  is all chopped up (at least in my display ). Thanks for your advice. 
  I guess i will take things day by day.  thanks also for the  advice to get 
 the other test as a follow up.i can only hope it turns out negative. I am 
 worried about the redness of his gums which he is on an antibiotic for. Vet 
 attributed it to gingivitis and teething but this was pre finding out the 
 positive test results.
 
 From: dppl dppl dppl1...@yahoo.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Monday, November 7, 2011 6:52 PM
 Subject: stray kitten positive any advice for me
 
 I came across this site, having just been informed by the vet that the 
 abandoned kitten I took in three weeks ago. Before I took it to the vet,  I 
 have been keeping it in a separate room but admit that since it seemed so 
 healthy I let it out for little walks.  I have 4 cats over 12 years old. 
 Other than walking on the same floors, they have not had contact with this 
 kitten.  In our short phone call, the vet basically said that she would 
 understand if I euthanized the cat and that she wasn't sure about false 
 positive and whether retesting would be worthwhile. The cat also has 
 hookworms.  When I took the cat in, she suggested that I give it its 
 vaccinations before waiting for test results.  I asked if the cat turned out 
 postitive, 

Re: [Felvtalk] stray kitten positive any advice for me/ flow charts for testing

2011-11-08 Thread dlgegg
Good nutrition, paying attention to sniffles, etc and most of all, lotsf love


 Marcia marciabmar...@gmail.com wrote: 
 I guess the fact of the matter is, is that your kitten can live a very 
 healthy life. If she tests positive, it doesn't necessarily  mean that she 
 will be chronically ill. I really think that good nutrition also plays an 
 enormous role in keeping them healthy. It's a very tough decision.  I feel 
 for you. Best of luck to you and your little one.
 Marcia
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Nov 8, 2011, at 5:07 PM, dppl dppl dppl1...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
  I'm sorry I haven't figured out how to reply to specific threads, maybe 
  because I receive a digest instead of each post.  I'm using this site 
  http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org to 
  access the threads.  If someone can point me in the right direction about 
  how to properly use this site I would appreciate it. I'm sure it is 
  somewhere in the intro msg but I'm not thinking too clearly.  When I have a 
  sick animal, I get very upset.  Anyway, I wanted to throw out what the vet 
  who diagnosed this stray kitten using a elise test that was sent to a lab 
  (not done at her office)  told me today..  She said she called to find the 
  latest protocols about retesting and said that one way is to wait 30 days 
  and repeat the test but the other way is to do an IFA now and I would know 
  once and for all if the kitten is truely positive. I questioned her about 
  what I was reading on the internet about waiting a longer period to see if 
  the cat reverts or sheds, but she said this is what she was told is the 
  latest protocol.   I did read some of you about your cats coming back 
  negative after retesting and this gave me hope.
   
Mitt (for Mittens) b/c he has them is eating well and his bad breath went 
  away I guess from the antibiotics he is on. but tonight I saw he has 
  dandruff/scaling in his fur on the outer ear.  Now I fear he does have a 
  compromised immune system and a skin disease.  So I am bringing him back to 
  the vet on thurs to get this IFA test and for her to look at the skin and 
  tell me what it is.   I'm not sure I can handle a chronically ill cat 
  again.  I took care of one of my older cats in the final stages of  kidney 
  failure for a year, including giving fluids but there was no issue of 
  keeping separate and fear of spreading illnesses to my other cats.  My 
  remaining  4 cats were former strays/ferals that were over a year old when 
  i took them in. I got them sterilized but never kept up on shots and 
  testing  b/c I kept them inside and figured since they all lived outside 
  more or less together if they had something they all probably had it by 
  then.  I've had them all over 11 years.  I have yet to find a really good 
  vet where I live. Most just push vaccinations and flea treatments. Most 
  don't deal with stray cats. I've been calling around cat rescues and those 
  that take positive cats are full and apparently the protocol here is that 
  when they bring in strays/ferals to be sterilzied, they give them a SNAP 
  test (is that an elise test) and if they test positive, they euthanize them 
  apparently b/c they will not return them to the colonies to spread the 
  disease. So most don't have experience treating cats with this illness.
   
  Anyway, thanks to anyone who made it thru this msg and has any further 
  comment.
  
  From: dppl dppl dppl1...@yahoo.com
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Sent: Monday, November 7, 2011 8:33 PM
  Subject: Re: stray kitten positive any advice for me
  
   
  thank you all for responding so quickly.  when i have more time I will 
  review all archives. I hope i am posting correctly by sending these emails. 
   I see my post  is all chopped up (at least in my display ). Thanks for 
  your advice.  I guess i will take things day by day.  thanks also for the  
  advice to get the other test as a follow up.i can only hope it turns out 
  negative. I am worried about the redness of his gums which he is on an 
  antibiotic for. Vet attributed it to gingivitis and teething but this was 
  pre finding out the positive test results.
  
  From: dppl dppl dppl1...@yahoo.com
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Sent: Monday, November 7, 2011 6:52 PM
  Subject: stray kitten positive any advice for me
  
  I came across this site, having just been informed by the vet that the 
  abandoned kitten I took in three weeks ago. Before I took it to the vet,  I 
  have been keeping it in a separate room but admit that since it seemed so 
  healthy I let it out for little walks.  I have 4 cats over 12 years old. 
  Other than walking on the same floors, they have not had contact with this 
  kitten.  In our short phone call, the vet basically said that she would 
  understand if I euthanized the cat and that she wasn't sure about false 
  positive and whether