[Felvtalk] vets un-informed

2011-11-21 Thread Mary Lou
I believe it is a lot of miss or incomplete info the vets get during training 
and in college.  I have a relatively young vet and he is unaware of how a cat 
can test positive twice on snaps and now be negative on a deep well.  I am blue 
in the face trying to explain.

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Re: [Felvtalk] Vets for Felv cats

2011-06-13 Thread Pam Norman
I'm in Spring Green!   It is good to know that the CCC can work with 
FeLeuk kitties, altho I have a good vet nearby in Dodgeville.  Do they 
use any holistic treatments?


On 6/11/2011 9:22 PM, Barb Moermond wrote:

I'm in Madison and use Cat Care Clinic.  Both of the vets there are members of
AAFP [www.catvets.com] and are both good with my babies.  I've been going there
since Ninja was diagnosed FeLV+ and suffering from seizures etc.  So, I've been
going to them since 1998 and still love them.  If you look at catvets.com, you
will be able to find other vet members by ZIP code.  There are other members at
other clinics here in the area, but I like the fact that CCC is cats only and
they know my babies.
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From: Pam Normanpam_nor...@charter.net
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Sent: Fri, June 10, 2011 9:57:02 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Vets for Felv cats

Do you all have your FeLeuk kitties seen by your regular vets?  I talked to a
wonderful consulting vet I know re Miss Eleanor (formerly Sabrina)  his first
recommendation was Internal Medicine at U of WI, but then said that this would
probably not be necessary as long as she is asymptomatic.  That regular blood
work, every 6 months, would be the main requirement.  Certainly hope that is the
case as just a couple of visits to UW would be well over $1000!

I would like to combine the services  of a good regular vet, which I think I
have, altho he freely admits that is practice does not see a lot of FeLeuk
kitties - which is probably pretty much the case with all non-specializing vets,
I would think, with those of a holistic vet as well. Do any of you do that?

Are any of you in Wisconsin?

Pam

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Re: [Felvtalk] Vets for Felv cats

2011-06-13 Thread Barb Moermond
Not as a regular part of their practice, but they have always been open to new 
information and research I've brought.  The first vet I used there, who is no 
longer there, had FeLV+ kittehs herself, so the viral status was just another 
piece of information to have in the kittehs file. 

they might have a holistic practice that they work with, but I've never looked 
into it.

if you end up using them, tell 'em I sent you:)
http://catcareclinic.net/
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From: Pam Norman pam_nor...@charter.net
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Sent: Mon, June 13, 2011 8:31:15 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Vets for Felv cats

I'm in Spring Green!   It is good to know that the CCC can work with 
FeLeuk kitties, altho I have a good vet nearby in Dodgeville.  Do they 
use any holistic treatments?

On 6/11/2011 9:22 PM, Barb Moermond wrote:
 I'm in Madison and use Cat Care Clinic.  Both of the vets there are members of
 AAFP [www.catvets.com] and are both good with my babies.  I've been going 
there
 since Ninja was diagnosed FeLV+ and suffering from seizures etc.  So, I've 
been
 going to them since 1998 and still love them.  If you look at catvets.com, you
 will be able to find other vet members by ZIP code.  There are other members 
at
 other clinics here in the area, but I like the fact that CCC is cats only and
 they know my babies.
   Barb+Smoky the House Puma+Miss Lilly Bird+Angel BanditNo


 My cat the clown:  paying no mind to whom he should impress.  Merely living 
his
 life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile.

 - Anonymous




 
 From: Pam Normanpam_nor...@charter.net
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Fri, June 10, 2011 9:57:02 PM
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Vets for Felv cats

 Do you all have your FeLeuk kitties seen by your regular vets?  I talked to a
 wonderful consulting vet I know re Miss Eleanor (formerly Sabrina)  his first
 recommendation was Internal Medicine at U of WI, but then said that this would
 probably not be necessary as long as she is asymptomatic.  That regular blood
 work, every 6 months, would be the main requirement.  Certainly hope that is 
the
 case as just a couple of visits to UW would be well over $1000!

 I would like to combine the services  of a good regular vet, which I think I
 have, altho he freely admits that is practice does not see a lot of FeLeuk
 kitties - which is probably pretty much the case with all non-specializing 
vets,
 I would think, with those of a holistic vet as well. Do any of you do that?

 Are any of you in Wisconsin?

 Pam

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Re: [Felvtalk] Vets for Felv cats

2011-06-11 Thread Lorrie
On 06-10, Pam Norman wrote:
 Do you all have your FeLeuk kitties seen by your regular vets? 

I don't take my FelV cats for checkups unless they are sick.
The stress they feel when put in a carrier and taken to the  
vet is very bad for FelV cats.  Therefore I keep a close eye
on them and treat them if they need to see a vet. I also don't
update their shots once they are well protected.

Lorrie

 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Vets for Felv cats

2011-06-11 Thread 2nd Hotmail
Mine go monthly for his CBC

Christy Stetler

On Jun 11, 2011, at 3:46 AM, Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote:

 On 06-10, Pam Norman wrote:
 Do you all have your FeLeuk kitties seen by your regular vets? 
 
 I don't take my FelV cats for checkups unless they are sick.
 The stress they feel when put in a carrier and taken to the  
 vet is very bad for FelV cats.  Therefore I keep a close eye
 on them and treat them if they need to see a vet. I also don't
 update their shots once they are well protected.
 
 Lorrie
 
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Vets for Felv cats

2011-06-11 Thread dlgegg
I agree, even ngative cats get upset going to the vet.  I think it is the noise 
the car makes.  I have found that driving over 50 mph sets them off.  Homey 
talks all the way (15 miles).  She says nooo way!  Under 50mph, they are all 
calmer so I set the cruise and allow enough time to get there in time.
 Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: 
 On 06-10, Pam Norman wrote:
  Do you all have your FeLeuk kitties seen by your regular vets? 
 
 I don't take my FelV cats for checkups unless they are sick.
 The stress they feel when put in a carrier and taken to the  
 vet is very bad for FelV cats.  Therefore I keep a close eye
 on them and treat them if they need to see a vet. I also don't
 update their shots once they are well protected.
 
 Lorrie
 
  
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Vets for Felv cats

2011-06-11 Thread dlgegg
Beth, I agree.  I only use the larger ER group when I have an emergency late at 
night or on weekends.  They are ok, nice, but just do not know each cat's 
personality and ractions to sounds and movements.
 Beth Noren maxgoodb...@gmail.com wrote: 
 Hi Pam,
 I think a good regular vet who is willing to listen is the absolute
 best kind.  I've tried another vet with a larger 24 hour practice who
 has pioneered some procedures. He was a mean, nasty ego-maniac.  I
 much prefer a smaller practice where they can spend time to get to
 really know you and your cat, even if they don't see a lot of FeLV.
 I have also used some specialists when needed, and they have are nice,
 but very busy and probably don't remember me or my cats in 6 months.
 Like the difference between a family doctor and a brain surgeon.  I
 would use U of WI as a specialist, and stick with the good regular vet
 for everything you and he feel comfortable tackling.  Hopefully it
 won't be much, my positives only health issue before the end was a
 bladder problem unrelated to his FeLV.  I know some others here will
 be able to offer advice on holistic vets, I've never used one for my
 cats.  I guess my only concern would be to keep the regular vet
 informed of any supplements or treatments that the other one provides,
 as I think it is really important that they have a complete picture of
 what is happening with their patient.
 
 Best wishes,
 Beth N.
 
 On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 10:57 PM, Pam Norman pam_nor...@charter.net wrote:
  Do you all have your FeLeuk kitties seen by your regular vets?  I talked to
  a wonderful consulting vet I know re Miss Eleanor (formerly Sabrina)  his
  first recommendation was Internal Medicine at U of WI, but then said that
  this would probably not be necessary as long as she is asymptomatic.  That
  regular blood work, every 6 months, would be the main requirement.
   Certainly hope that is the case as just a couple of visits to UW would be
  well over $1000!
 
  I would like to combine the services  of a good regular vet, which I think I
  have, altho he freely admits that is practice does not see a lot of FeLeuk
  kitties - which is probably pretty much the case with all non-specializing
  vets, I would think, with those of a holistic vet as well. Do any of you do
  that?
 
  Are any of you in Wisconsin?
 
  Pam
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Vets for Felv cats

2011-06-11 Thread Natalie
Almost all of our cats are very good at being in a carrier and going to the
vet, who is only 5-10 minutes away.  I leave a carrier out at all times, and
cats use it as a hiding place or bed.  About an hour before going to the
vet, I do a quick spray of Feliway into the carrier!  They all love to pile
in there, and I have to take them out so that the real patient can go (quite
happily!).

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I agree, even ngative cats get upset going to the vet.  I think it is the
noise the car makes.  I have found that driving over 50 mph sets them off.
Homey talks all the way (15 miles).  She says nooo way!  Under 50mph, they
are all calmer so I set the cruise and allow enough time to get there in
time.
 Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: 
 On 06-10, Pam Norman wrote:
  Do you all have your FeLeuk kitties seen by your regular vets? 
 
 I don't take my FelV cats for checkups unless they are sick.
 The stress they feel when put in a carrier and taken to the  
 vet is very bad for FelV cats.  Therefore I keep a close eye
 on them and treat them if they need to see a vet. I also don't
 update their shots once they are well protected.
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Vets for Felv cats

2011-06-11 Thread Barb Moermond
I'm in Madison and use Cat Care Clinic.  Both of the vets there are members of 
AAFP [www.catvets.com] and are both good with my babies.  I've been going there 
since Ninja was diagnosed FeLV+ and suffering from seizures etc.  So, I've been 
going to them since 1998 and still love them.  If you look at catvets.com, you 
will be able to find other vet members by ZIP code.  There are other members at 
other clinics here in the area, but I like the fact that CCC is cats only and 
they know my babies.
 Barb+Smoky the House Puma+Miss Lilly Bird+Angel BanditNo 


My cat the clown:  paying no mind to whom he should impress.  Merely living 
his 
life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile. 

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From: Pam Norman pam_nor...@charter.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Fri, June 10, 2011 9:57:02 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Vets for Felv cats

Do you all have your FeLeuk kitties seen by your regular vets?  I talked to a 
wonderful consulting vet I know re Miss Eleanor (formerly Sabrina)  his first 
recommendation was Internal Medicine at U of WI, but then said that this would 
probably not be necessary as long as she is asymptomatic.  That regular blood 
work, every 6 months, would be the main requirement.  Certainly hope that is 
the 
case as just a couple of visits to UW would be well over $1000!

I would like to combine the services  of a good regular vet, which I think I 
have, altho he freely admits that is practice does not see a lot of FeLeuk 
kitties - which is probably pretty much the case with all non-specializing 
vets, 
I would think, with those of a holistic vet as well. Do any of you do that?

Are any of you in Wisconsin?

Pam

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Re: [Felvtalk] Vets for Felv cats

2011-06-11 Thread Barb Moermond
Yes, an open-minded vet willing to look into new things is key.  CCC has always 
been open to all of the information I've sent them over the years; willing to 
discuss issues etc.  I am also the one who introduced them to Rescue Remedy! :)
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From: Melinda Kerr msk...@me.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Fri, June 10, 2011 10:19:33 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Vets for Felv cats

I am in a unique situation. We live on a military base in Japan with limited 
resources.   I take my cats to a general practice Japanese vet. He has kept my 
Fuji alive and healthy for almost a year.  She is FeLV positive with 
Mediastinal 
Lymphoma. I never had the opportunity to give her supplements or any of the 
other treatments that others use. My own experience had been that a low stress 
environment, attention to the slightest signs of illness, decent food and lots 
and lots of love have been sufficient!  


Of course every cat is different, but it seems as though a regular vet who is 
willing to do a bit of research on occasion is good enough for an asymptomatic 
cat.  


Melinda, Fuji, and VooDoo

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 11, 2011, at 11:57 AM, Pam Norman pam_nor...@charter.net wrote:

 Do you all have your FeLeuk kitties seen by your regular vets?  I talked to a 
wonderful consulting vet I know re Miss Eleanor (formerly Sabrina)  his first 
recommendation was Internal Medicine at U of WI, but then said that this would 
probably not be necessary as long as she is asymptomatic.  That regular blood 
work, every 6 months, would be the main requirement.  Certainly hope that is 
the 
case as just a couple of visits to UW would be well over $1000!
 
 I would like to combine the services  of a good regular vet, which I think I 
have, altho he freely admits that is practice does not see a lot of FeLeuk 
kitties - which is probably pretty much the case with all non-specializing 
vets, 
I would think, with those of a holistic vet as well. Do any of you do that?
 
 Are any of you in Wisconsin?
 
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[Felvtalk] Vets for Felv cats

2011-06-10 Thread Pam Norman
Do you all have your FeLeuk kitties seen by your regular vets?  I talked 
to a wonderful consulting vet I know re Miss Eleanor (formerly Sabrina) 
 his first recommendation was Internal Medicine at U of WI, but then 
said that this would probably not be necessary as long as she is 
asymptomatic.  That regular blood work, every 6 months, would be the 
main requirement.  Certainly hope that is the case as just a couple of 
visits to UW would be well over $1000!


I would like to combine the services  of a good regular vet, which I 
think I have, altho he freely admits that is practice does not see a lot 
of FeLeuk kitties - which is probably pretty much the case with all 
non-specializing vets, I would think, with those of a holistic vet as 
well. Do any of you do that?


Are any of you in Wisconsin?

Pam

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Re: [Felvtalk] Vets for Felv cats

2011-06-10 Thread dlgegg
My vet is a GP. treats cats, dogs and lots of horses and cows so his info on 
things like  felv is not as good as a specialist, but, he welcomes every bit of 
information I bring him.  I print out a lot of the things all of the members 
come up with and he then does his own research on the subject.  We have both 
learned a lot since I got Annie.  He said since I do the preliminary research 
for him, it makes it easier for him to get into the details of it.


 Pam Norman pam_nor...@charter.net wrote: 
 Do you all have your FeLeuk kitties seen by your regular vets?  I talked 
 to a wonderful consulting vet I know re Miss Eleanor (formerly Sabrina) 
  his first recommendation was Internal Medicine at U of WI, but then 
 said that this would probably not be necessary as long as she is 
 asymptomatic.  That regular blood work, every 6 months, would be the 
 main requirement.  Certainly hope that is the case as just a couple of 
 visits to UW would be well over $1000!
 
 I would like to combine the services  of a good regular vet, which I 
 think I have, altho he freely admits that is practice does not see a lot 
 of FeLeuk kitties - which is probably pretty much the case with all 
 non-specializing vets, I would think, with those of a holistic vet as 
 well. Do any of you do that?
 
 Are any of you in Wisconsin?
 
 Pam
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Vets for Felv cats

2011-06-10 Thread Melinda Kerr
I am in a unique situation. We live on a military base in Japan with limited 
resources.   I take my cats to a general practice Japanese vet. He has kept my 
Fuji alive and healthy for almost a year.  She is FeLV positive with 
Mediastinal Lymphoma. I never had the opportunity to give her supplements or 
any of the other treatments that others use. My own experience had been that a 
low stress environment, attention to the slightest signs of illness, decent 
food and lots and lots of love have been sufficient!  

Of course every cat is different, but it seems as though a regular vet who is 
willing to do a bit of research on occasion is good enough for an asymptomatic 
cat.  

Melinda, Fuji, and VooDoo

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 11, 2011, at 11:57 AM, Pam Norman pam_nor...@charter.net wrote:

 Do you all have your FeLeuk kitties seen by your regular vets?  I talked to a 
 wonderful consulting vet I know re Miss Eleanor (formerly Sabrina)  his 
 first recommendation was Internal Medicine at U of WI, but then said that 
 this would probably not be necessary as long as she is asymptomatic.  That 
 regular blood work, every 6 months, would be the main requirement.  Certainly 
 hope that is the case as just a couple of visits to UW would be well over 
 $1000!
 
 I would like to combine the services  of a good regular vet, which I think I 
 have, altho he freely admits that is practice does not see a lot of FeLeuk 
 kitties - which is probably pretty much the case with all non-specializing 
 vets, I would think, with those of a holistic vet as well. Do any of you do 
 that?
 
 Are any of you in Wisconsin?
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Vets for Felv cats

2011-06-10 Thread Beth Noren
Hi Pam,
I think a good regular vet who is willing to listen is the absolute
best kind.  I've tried another vet with a larger 24 hour practice who
has pioneered some procedures. He was a mean, nasty ego-maniac.  I
much prefer a smaller practice where they can spend time to get to
really know you and your cat, even if they don't see a lot of FeLV.
I have also used some specialists when needed, and they have are nice,
but very busy and probably don't remember me or my cats in 6 months.
Like the difference between a family doctor and a brain surgeon.  I
would use U of WI as a specialist, and stick with the good regular vet
for everything you and he feel comfortable tackling.  Hopefully it
won't be much, my positives only health issue before the end was a
bladder problem unrelated to his FeLV.  I know some others here will
be able to offer advice on holistic vets, I've never used one for my
cats.  I guess my only concern would be to keep the regular vet
informed of any supplements or treatments that the other one provides,
as I think it is really important that they have a complete picture of
what is happening with their patient.

Best wishes,
Beth N.

On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 10:57 PM, Pam Norman pam_nor...@charter.net wrote:
 Do you all have your FeLeuk kitties seen by your regular vets?  I talked to
 a wonderful consulting vet I know re Miss Eleanor (formerly Sabrina)  his
 first recommendation was Internal Medicine at U of WI, but then said that
 this would probably not be necessary as long as she is asymptomatic.  That
 regular blood work, every 6 months, would be the main requirement.
  Certainly hope that is the case as just a couple of visits to UW would be
 well over $1000!

 I would like to combine the services  of a good regular vet, which I think I
 have, altho he freely admits that is practice does not see a lot of FeLeuk
 kitties - which is probably pretty much the case with all non-specializing
 vets, I would think, with those of a holistic vet as well. Do any of you do
 that?

 Are any of you in Wisconsin?

 Pam

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Re: [Felvtalk] Vets for Felv cats

2011-06-10 Thread Sara Kasteleyn

We have a wonderful holistic-friendly vet who makes house calls.  She works in 
conjunction with our brick and mortar vet for blood work, tests, etc.  when 
necessary.  Now that we have lost our two FeLV+ angels, she takes care of our 
new babies.  The house call vet was the one that got us hooked up with LTCI.  
I'm certain Taj and Rani wouldn't have lasted as long as they did without the 
LTCI.  Both eventually succumbed to lymphomas of different types.  Brother and 
sister.  We will always miss them.

I don't think it's necessary to have a specialized vet...just a vet who is 
special and willing to listen.  

Sara

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Subject: [Felvtalk] Vets for Felv cats

Do you all have your FeLeuk kitties seen by your regular vets? I talked 
to a wonderful consulting vet I know re Miss Eleanor (formerly Sabrina) 
 his first recommendation was Internal Medicine at U of WI, but then 
said that this would probably not be necessary as long as she is 
asymptomatic. That regular blood work, every 6 months, would be the 
main requirement. Certainly hope that is the case as just a couple of 
visits to UW would be well over $1000!

I would like to combine the services of a good regular vet, which I 
think I have, altho he freely admits that is practice does not see a lot 
of FeLeuk kitties - which is probably pretty much the case with all 
non-specializing vets, I would think, with those of a holistic vet as 
well. Do any of you do that?

Are any of you in Wisconsin?

Pam

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2010-07-05 Thread rache20212


I have a momma cat who has FeLV and we just discovered 2 out of her 3 
kittens do as well. I am desperate to find them homes or a good place 
to live out their lives as I cannot have any more cats! I am moving out 
of my current living situation so am now desperate for help. I do not 
have a place for them to go, literally! So please help if you can. They 
are sweet and friendly and wonderful.


-Original Message-
From: Gloria B. Lane gbl...@aristotle.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Sat, Jul 3, 2010 1:41 am
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] vets


Michelle Lerner has been on this list for a while, and has a friend who 
does cat rescue in Manhattan lernermiche...@aol.com 

 
Gloria 
 
 
On Jul 2, 2010, at 2:25 PM, CATHERINE DIDONNA wrote: 
 
tks. a friend told me about a vet in the East Village who does  

regular meds,and holistic med,is very nice and reasonable. 

 
--- On Fri, 7/2/10, Gloria B. Lane gbl...@aristotle.net wrote: 
 
 
From: Gloria B. Lane gbl...@aristotle.net 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] vets 
To: felvt...@felineleukemia.org 
Date: Friday, July 2, 2010, 2:55 PM 
 
 
Well we've got a New Yorker on the list or did, now I forget who! 
 
Gloria 
 
 
 
 
On Jul 1, 2010, at 4:35 PM, CATHERINE DIDONNA wrote: 
 

 
Can anyone recommend a vet that cares about FELV cats in New York  

City? Thankyou 

--- On Wed, 6/30/10, Sharyl cline...@yahoo.com wrote: 
 
 
From: Sharyl cline...@yahoo.com 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] rear leg weakness- Revolution used? and  

update 

To: felvt...@felineleukemia.org 
Date: Wednesday, June 30, 2010, 1:21 PM 
 
 
Amy, based on what you have written I wouldn't worry about the high 
 Ca right now. What was his phos level? There is an issue when  
both Ca and Phos are high but again that wouldn't affect his hind  
legs. It could be the anemia. 

 
In the end we do what we can with the resources we have. He's  

lucky to have you loving him. 

Sharyl 
 
--- On Wed, 6/30/10, Amy awilkin...@yahoo.com wrote: 
 

From: Amy awilkin...@yahoo.com 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] rear leg weakness- Revolution used? and  

update 

To: felvt...@felineleukemia.org 
Date: Wednesday, June 30, 2010, 12:12 PM 
No idea why he has hind leg 
weakness. I'll researched all the causes and none seem 
to apply other than the leukemia. He has had routine 
blood work every 6 months of his life and we have monitored 
him very closely as we do all our positive cats. No 
major problems other than some weight loss and IBD over the 
past couple years. 
 
I don't think I've ever taken one of my positive cats to 
the vet that some level hasn't been off. Historically 
when I've drawn more blood or done further testing, it 
always ends up being nothing. I spend lots of money 
and put the cats through lots of testing and then 6 months 
later, the value is normal again. I've just grown to 
step back and not flip out every time I see a low or high 
value for that reason. I have to say I still feel sick 
every time I see the HCT drop in one of them though. 
So that's my hesitation with taking 3 ml of blood from a 
non-regenerative anemic cat. He just had a full 
CBC/Chem which is not a small amount of blood and I'm afraid 
to draw so much blood again when I think his time with me is 
limited to begin with. 
 
The only thing I can come up with as a cause of the hind 
leg weakness is long term steroid use. I read that 
it's more common with injectable steroids so not sure if it 
even applies to pred. He's been on pred for almost a 
year. However, I have no doubt that it is the one 
thing that has kept him alive. Neither me or the 
specialist I'm seeing are even considering taking him off 
that as I have no doubt he will crash. We tried 
weaning him off it a year ago after treating him for 
hemobart and he started going downhill quickly. That 
said, his bone marrow is shot. He's been 
non-regenerative for over a year and making red blood cells 
from his spleen or elsewhere. We knew he couldn't do 
this forever so I'm not shocked at where we are, just 
sad. Since he's been anemic for a year and holding 
steady, I guess the weakness could be a result of the anemia 
as well. Yet he doesn't seem weak otherwise 
really. He sleeps a lot and yes it's obvious he 
doesn't keep 
up with the other cats but not so weak that it takes too 
much energy to walk in my opinion. 
 
His liver and kidney values are all normal. Appetite is 
normal. No signs of lymphoma after 2 ultrasounds, 
probably has IBD and is on EVO which seems to have helped 
keep that in check. His calcium is just over normal - 
11.6 with normal being 8.2-11.5. I looked at blood 
work from all my other cats and they all run towards the 
high end, 10 or higher. So I'm weighing the risk worth 
the benefit of drawing another 3 ml of blood to see if he's 
really got a high calcium vs just waiting it out and if he's 
around in a month or so, rechecking it then. Any 
thoughts or suggestions are welcome. 
 
Thank you everyone for all the suggestions. My gut

Re: [Felvtalk] vets

2010-07-03 Thread MaryChristine
duh. i know that michelle is in NJ. i even know that she's in the part of NJ
that's near NYC. putting those facts together, however, well


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Re: [Felvtalk] vets

2010-07-03 Thread Gloria B. Lane

But there's someone else, o great white brainey one...

Gloria



On Jul 3, 2010, at 12:45 PM, MaryChristine wrote:

duh. i know that michelle is in NJ. i even know that she's in the  
part of NJ

that's near NYC. putting those facts together, however, well


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2010-07-03 Thread MaryChristine
there IS a members list last i checked--durned if i remember how to get
there. but that might spark fading memory cells.

brainey one? i'm sorry, i thought that coherent thought was optional in
rescue.



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 But there's someone else, o great white brainey one...

 Gloria




 On Jul 3, 2010, at 12:45 PM, MaryChristine wrote:

  duh. i know that michelle is in NJ. i even know that she's in the part of
 NJ
 that's near NYC. putting those facts together, however, well


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Re: [Felvtalk] vets

2010-07-03 Thread Gloria B. Lane

OK I cant stop laughing...

On Jul 3, 2010, at 1:00 PM, MaryChristine wrote:

there IS a members list last i checked--durned if i remember how to  
get

there. but that might spark fading memory cells.

brainey one? i'm sorry, i thought that coherent thought was optional  
in

rescue.



On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 1:50 PM, Gloria B. Lane  
gbl...@aristotle.net wrote:



But there's someone else, o great white brainey one...

Gloria




On Jul 3, 2010, at 12:45 PM, MaryChristine wrote:

duh. i know that michelle is in NJ. i even know that she's in the  
part of

NJ
that's near NYC. putting those facts together, however, well


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Re: [Felvtalk] vets

2010-07-02 Thread Gloria B. Lane

Well we've got a New Yorker on the list or did, now I forget who!

Gloria




On Jul 1, 2010, at 4:35 PM, CATHERINE DIDONNA wrote:



Can anyone recommend a vet that cares about FELV cats in New York  
City? Thankyou

--- On Wed, 6/30/10, Sharyl cline...@yahoo.com wrote:


From: Sharyl cline...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] rear leg weakness- Revolution used? and update
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Wednesday, June 30, 2010, 1:21 PM


Amy, based on what you have written I wouldn't worry about the high  
Ca right now.  What was his phos level?  There is an issue when both  
Ca and Phos are high but again that wouldn't affect his hind legs.   
It could be the anemia.


In the end we do what we can with the resources we have.  He's lucky  
to have you loving him.

Sharyl

--- On Wed, 6/30/10, Amy awilkin...@yahoo.com wrote:


From: Amy awilkin...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] rear leg weakness- Revolution used? and  
update

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Wednesday, June 30, 2010, 12:12 PM
No idea why he has hind leg
weakness.  I'll researched all the causes and none seem
to apply other than the leukemia.  He has had routine
blood work every 6 months of his life and we have monitored
him very closely as we do all our positive cats.  No
major problems other than some weight loss and IBD over the
past couple years.

I don't think I've ever taken one of my positive cats to
the vet that some level hasn't been off.  Historically
when I've drawn more blood or done further testing, it
always ends up being nothing.  I spend lots of money
and put the cats through lots of testing and then 6 months
later, the value is normal again.  I've just grown to
step back and not flip out every time I see a low or high
value for that reason.  I have to say I still feel sick
every time I see the HCT drop in one of them though.
So that's my hesitation with taking 3 ml of blood from a
non-regenerative anemic cat.  He just had a full
CBC/Chem which is not a small amount of blood and I'm afraid
to draw so much blood again when I think his time with me is
limited to begin with.

The only thing I can come up with as a cause of the hind
leg weakness is long term steroid use.  I read that
it's more common with injectable steroids so not sure if it
even applies to pred.  He's been on pred for almost a
year.  However, I have no doubt that it is the one
thing that has kept him alive.  Neither me or the
specialist I'm seeing are even considering taking him off
that as I have no doubt he will crash.  We tried
weaning him off it a year ago after treating him for
hemobart and he started going downhill quickly.  That
said, his bone marrow is shot.  He's been
non-regenerative for over a year and making red blood cells
from his spleen or elsewhere.  We knew he couldn't do
this forever so I'm not shocked at where we are, just
sad.  Since he's been anemic for a year and holding
steady, I guess the weakness could be a result of the anemia
as well.  Yet he doesn't seem weak otherwise
really.  He sleeps a lot and yes it's obvious he
doesn't keep
  up with the other cats but not so weak that it takes too
much energy to walk in my opinion.

His liver and kidney values are all normal. Appetite is
normal.  No signs of lymphoma after 2 ultrasounds,
probably has IBD and is on EVO which seems to have helped
keep that in check.  His calcium is just over normal -
11.6 with normal being 8.2-11.5.  I looked at blood
work from all my other cats and they all run towards the
high end, 10 or higher.  So I'm weighing the risk worth
the benefit of drawing another 3 ml of blood to see if he's
really got a high calcium vs just waiting it out and if he's
around in a month or so, rechecking it then.  Any
thoughts or suggestions are welcome.

Thank you everyone for all the suggestions.  My gut
tells me that he is close to the point of losing his battle
with this disease.  I always try to keep hope and
remain optimistic but watching one cat after another be
taken down by this disease, it's hard to keep the faith
sometimes.  Fingers crossed, Wolfie will pull through
this and defy the odds as he has until now.

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2010-07-02 Thread CATHERINE DIDONNA
tks. a friend told me about a vet in the East Village who does regular meds,and 
holistic med,is very nice and reasonable.

--- On Fri, 7/2/10, Gloria B. Lane gbl...@aristotle.net wrote:


From: Gloria B. Lane gbl...@aristotle.net
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] vets
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Friday, July 2, 2010, 2:55 PM


Well we've got a New Yorker on the list or did, now I forget who!

Gloria




On Jul 1, 2010, at 4:35 PM, CATHERINE DIDONNA wrote:

 
 Can anyone recommend a vet that cares about FELV cats in New York City? 
 Thankyou
 --- On Wed, 6/30/10, Sharyl cline...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 
 From: Sharyl cline...@yahoo.com
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] rear leg weakness- Revolution used? and update
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Wednesday, June 30, 2010, 1:21 PM
 
 
 Amy, based on what you have written I wouldn't worry about the high Ca right 
 now.  What was his phos level?  There is an issue when both Ca and Phos are 
 high but again that wouldn't affect his hind legs.  It could be the anemia.
 
 In the end we do what we can with the resources we have.  He's lucky to have 
 you loving him.
 Sharyl
 
 --- On Wed, 6/30/10, Amy awilkin...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 From: Amy awilkin...@yahoo.com
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] rear leg weakness- Revolution used? and update
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Wednesday, June 30, 2010, 12:12 PM
 No idea why he has hind leg
 weakness.  I'll researched all the causes and none seem
 to apply other than the leukemia.  He has had routine
 blood work every 6 months of his life and we have monitored
 him very closely as we do all our positive cats.  No
 major problems other than some weight loss and IBD over the
 past couple years.
 
 I don't think I've ever taken one of my positive cats to
 the vet that some level hasn't been off.  Historically
 when I've drawn more blood or done further testing, it
 always ends up being nothing.  I spend lots of money
 and put the cats through lots of testing and then 6 months
 later, the value is normal again.  I've just grown to
 step back and not flip out every time I see a low or high
 value for that reason.  I have to say I still feel sick
 every time I see the HCT drop in one of them though.
 So that's my hesitation with taking 3 ml of blood from a
 non-regenerative anemic cat.  He just had a full
 CBC/Chem which is not a small amount of blood and I'm afraid
 to draw so much blood again when I think his time with me is
 limited to begin with.
 
 The only thing I can come up with as a cause of the hind
 leg weakness is long term steroid use.  I read that
 it's more common with injectable steroids so not sure if it
 even applies to pred.  He's been on pred for almost a
 year.  However, I have no doubt that it is the one
 thing that has kept him alive.  Neither me or the
 specialist I'm seeing are even considering taking him off
 that as I have no doubt he will crash.  We tried
 weaning him off it a year ago after treating him for
 hemobart and he started going downhill quickly.  That
 said, his bone marrow is shot.  He's been
 non-regenerative for over a year and making red blood cells
 from his spleen or elsewhere.  We knew he couldn't do
 this forever so I'm not shocked at where we are, just
 sad.  Since he's been anemic for a year and holding
 steady, I guess the weakness could be a result of the anemia
 as well.  Yet he doesn't seem weak otherwise
 really.  He sleeps a lot and yes it's obvious he
 doesn't keep
   up with the other cats but not so weak that it takes too
 much energy to walk in my opinion.
 
 His liver and kidney values are all normal. Appetite is
 normal.  No signs of lymphoma after 2 ultrasounds,
 probably has IBD and is on EVO which seems to have helped
 keep that in check.  His calcium is just over normal -
 11.6 with normal being 8.2-11.5.  I looked at blood
 work from all my other cats and they all run towards the
 high end, 10 or higher.  So I'm weighing the risk worth
 the benefit of drawing another 3 ml of blood to see if he's
 really got a high calcium vs just waiting it out and if he's
 around in a month or so, rechecking it then.  Any
 thoughts or suggestions are welcome.
 
 Thank you everyone for all the suggestions.  My gut
 tells me that he is close to the point of losing his battle
 with this disease.  I always try to keep hope and
 remain optimistic but watching one cat after another be
 taken down by this disease, it's hard to keep the faith
 sometimes.  Fingers crossed, Wolfie will pull through
 this and defy the odds as he has until now.
 
 Amy
 
 
 
 
 
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2010-07-02 Thread MaryChristine
um, gloria, dear? new york is a big state! i'm a new yorker after all

but everyone, remember to check out belinda's FeLV-friendly list at
www.adopt.bemikitties.com. AND ENTER YOUR OWN VET into the database!

On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 2:55 PM, Gloria B. Lane gbl...@aristotle.net wrote:

 Well we've got a New Yorker on the list or did, now I forget who!

 Gloria


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2010-07-02 Thread MaryChristine
yeah, new motto is, a mind is a terrible thing to lose.

i can't think of who is in the NYC area--from this list, at least. let me
check with some folks who don't read the list much anymore--tho james just
posted on facebook, so maybe he'll remember

or not. why should he be immune to losing one's mind?

you-know-who


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2010-07-02 Thread Chris
I'm in NY but in Westchester County--Just north of NYC.  I like my vet but it 
would be a real hassle to come up from NYC.  

-Original Message-
From: MaryChristine twelvehousec...@gmail.com
Sent: Jul 2, 2010 4:27 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] vets

yeah, new motto is, a mind is a terrible thing to lose.

i can't think of who is in the NYC area--from this list, at least. let me
check with some folks who don't read the list much anymore--tho james just
posted on facebook, so maybe he'll remember

or not. why should he be immune to losing one's mind?

you-know-who


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