[Felvtalk] vets un-informed
I believe it is a lot of miss or incomplete info the vets get during training and in college. I have a relatively young vet and he is unaware of how a cat can test positive twice on snaps and now be negative on a deep well. I am blue in the face trying to explain. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I'm in Spring Green! It is good to know that the CCC can work with FeLeuk kitties, altho I have a good vet nearby in Dodgeville. Do they use any holistic treatments? On 6/11/2011 9:22 PM, Barb Moermond wrote: I'm in Madison and use Cat Care Clinic. Both of the vets there are members of AAFP [www.catvets.com] and are both good with my babies. I've been going there since Ninja was diagnosed FeLV+ and suffering from seizures etc. So, I've been going to them since 1998 and still love them. If you look at catvets.com, you will be able to find other vet members by ZIP code. There are other members at other clinics here in the area, but I like the fact that CCC is cats only and they know my babies. Barb+Smoky the House Puma+Miss Lilly Bird+Angel BanditNo My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile. - Anonymous From: Pam Normanpam_nor...@charter.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Fri, June 10, 2011 9:57:02 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Vets for Felv cats Do you all have your FeLeuk kitties seen by your regular vets? I talked to a wonderful consulting vet I know re Miss Eleanor (formerly Sabrina) his first recommendation was Internal Medicine at U of WI, but then said that this would probably not be necessary as long as she is asymptomatic. That regular blood work, every 6 months, would be the main requirement. Certainly hope that is the case as just a couple of visits to UW would be well over $1000! I would like to combine the services of a good regular vet, which I think I have, altho he freely admits that is practice does not see a lot of FeLeuk kitties - which is probably pretty much the case with all non-specializing vets, I would think, with those of a holistic vet as well. Do any of you do that? Are any of you in Wisconsin? Pam ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Vets for Felv cats
Not as a regular part of their practice, but they have always been open to new information and research I've brought. The first vet I used there, who is no longer there, had FeLV+ kittehs herself, so the viral status was just another piece of information to have in the kittehs file. they might have a holistic practice that they work with, but I've never looked into it. if you end up using them, tell 'em I sent you:) http://catcareclinic.net/ Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile. - Anonymous From: Pam Norman pam_nor...@charter.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Mon, June 13, 2011 8:31:15 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Vets for Felv cats I'm in Spring Green! It is good to know that the CCC can work with FeLeuk kitties, altho I have a good vet nearby in Dodgeville. Do they use any holistic treatments? On 6/11/2011 9:22 PM, Barb Moermond wrote: I'm in Madison and use Cat Care Clinic. Both of the vets there are members of AAFP [www.catvets.com] and are both good with my babies. I've been going there since Ninja was diagnosed FeLV+ and suffering from seizures etc. So, I've been going to them since 1998 and still love them. If you look at catvets.com, you will be able to find other vet members by ZIP code. There are other members at other clinics here in the area, but I like the fact that CCC is cats only and they know my babies. Barb+Smoky the House Puma+Miss Lilly Bird+Angel BanditNo My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile. - Anonymous From: Pam Normanpam_nor...@charter.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Fri, June 10, 2011 9:57:02 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Vets for Felv cats Do you all have your FeLeuk kitties seen by your regular vets? I talked to a wonderful consulting vet I know re Miss Eleanor (formerly Sabrina) his first recommendation was Internal Medicine at U of WI, but then said that this would probably not be necessary as long as she is asymptomatic. That regular blood work, every 6 months, would be the main requirement. Certainly hope that is the case as just a couple of visits to UW would be well over $1000! I would like to combine the services of a good regular vet, which I think I have, altho he freely admits that is practice does not see a lot of FeLeuk kitties - which is probably pretty much the case with all non-specializing vets, I would think, with those of a holistic vet as well. Do any of you do that? Are any of you in Wisconsin? Pam ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Vets for Felv cats
On 06-10, Pam Norman wrote: Do you all have your FeLeuk kitties seen by your regular vets? I don't take my FelV cats for checkups unless they are sick. The stress they feel when put in a carrier and taken to the vet is very bad for FelV cats. Therefore I keep a close eye on them and treat them if they need to see a vet. I also don't update their shots once they are well protected. Lorrie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Mine go monthly for his CBC Christy Stetler On Jun 11, 2011, at 3:46 AM, Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: On 06-10, Pam Norman wrote: Do you all have your FeLeuk kitties seen by your regular vets? I don't take my FelV cats for checkups unless they are sick. The stress they feel when put in a carrier and taken to the vet is very bad for FelV cats. Therefore I keep a close eye on them and treat them if they need to see a vet. I also don't update their shots once they are well protected. Lorrie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Vets for Felv cats
I agree, even ngative cats get upset going to the vet. I think it is the noise the car makes. I have found that driving over 50 mph sets them off. Homey talks all the way (15 miles). She says nooo way! Under 50mph, they are all calmer so I set the cruise and allow enough time to get there in time. Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: On 06-10, Pam Norman wrote: Do you all have your FeLeuk kitties seen by your regular vets? I don't take my FelV cats for checkups unless they are sick. The stress they feel when put in a carrier and taken to the vet is very bad for FelV cats. Therefore I keep a close eye on them and treat them if they need to see a vet. I also don't update their shots once they are well protected. Lorrie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Beth, I agree. I only use the larger ER group when I have an emergency late at night or on weekends. They are ok, nice, but just do not know each cat's personality and ractions to sounds and movements. Beth Noren maxgoodb...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Pam, I think a good regular vet who is willing to listen is the absolute best kind. I've tried another vet with a larger 24 hour practice who has pioneered some procedures. He was a mean, nasty ego-maniac. I much prefer a smaller practice where they can spend time to get to really know you and your cat, even if they don't see a lot of FeLV. I have also used some specialists when needed, and they have are nice, but very busy and probably don't remember me or my cats in 6 months. Like the difference between a family doctor and a brain surgeon. I would use U of WI as a specialist, and stick with the good regular vet for everything you and he feel comfortable tackling. Hopefully it won't be much, my positives only health issue before the end was a bladder problem unrelated to his FeLV. I know some others here will be able to offer advice on holistic vets, I've never used one for my cats. I guess my only concern would be to keep the regular vet informed of any supplements or treatments that the other one provides, as I think it is really important that they have a complete picture of what is happening with their patient. Best wishes, Beth N. On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 10:57 PM, Pam Norman pam_nor...@charter.net wrote: Do you all have your FeLeuk kitties seen by your regular vets? I talked to a wonderful consulting vet I know re Miss Eleanor (formerly Sabrina) his first recommendation was Internal Medicine at U of WI, but then said that this would probably not be necessary as long as she is asymptomatic. That regular blood work, every 6 months, would be the main requirement. Certainly hope that is the case as just a couple of visits to UW would be well over $1000! I would like to combine the services of a good regular vet, which I think I have, altho he freely admits that is practice does not see a lot of FeLeuk kitties - which is probably pretty much the case with all non-specializing vets, I would think, with those of a holistic vet as well. Do any of you do that? Are any of you in Wisconsin? Pam ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Vets for Felv cats
Almost all of our cats are very good at being in a carrier and going to the vet, who is only 5-10 minutes away. I leave a carrier out at all times, and cats use it as a hiding place or bed. About an hour before going to the vet, I do a quick spray of Feliway into the carrier! They all love to pile in there, and I have to take them out so that the real patient can go (quite happily!). -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of dlg...@windstream.net Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2011 6:10 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Vets for Felv cats I agree, even ngative cats get upset going to the vet. I think it is the noise the car makes. I have found that driving over 50 mph sets them off. Homey talks all the way (15 miles). She says nooo way! Under 50mph, they are all calmer so I set the cruise and allow enough time to get there in time. Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: On 06-10, Pam Norman wrote: Do you all have your FeLeuk kitties seen by your regular vets? I don't take my FelV cats for checkups unless they are sick. The stress they feel when put in a carrier and taken to the vet is very bad for FelV cats. Therefore I keep a close eye on them and treat them if they need to see a vet. I also don't update their shots once they are well protected. Lorrie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Vets for Felv cats
I'm in Madison and use Cat Care Clinic. Both of the vets there are members of AAFP [www.catvets.com] and are both good with my babies. I've been going there since Ninja was diagnosed FeLV+ and suffering from seizures etc. So, I've been going to them since 1998 and still love them. If you look at catvets.com, you will be able to find other vet members by ZIP code. There are other members at other clinics here in the area, but I like the fact that CCC is cats only and they know my babies. Barb+Smoky the House Puma+Miss Lilly Bird+Angel BanditNo My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile. - Anonymous From: Pam Norman pam_nor...@charter.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Fri, June 10, 2011 9:57:02 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Vets for Felv cats Do you all have your FeLeuk kitties seen by your regular vets? I talked to a wonderful consulting vet I know re Miss Eleanor (formerly Sabrina) his first recommendation was Internal Medicine at U of WI, but then said that this would probably not be necessary as long as she is asymptomatic. That regular blood work, every 6 months, would be the main requirement. Certainly hope that is the case as just a couple of visits to UW would be well over $1000! I would like to combine the services of a good regular vet, which I think I have, altho he freely admits that is practice does not see a lot of FeLeuk kitties - which is probably pretty much the case with all non-specializing vets, I would think, with those of a holistic vet as well. Do any of you do that? Are any of you in Wisconsin? Pam ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Yes, an open-minded vet willing to look into new things is key. CCC has always been open to all of the information I've sent them over the years; willing to discuss issues etc. I am also the one who introduced them to Rescue Remedy! :) Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile. - Anonymous From: Melinda Kerr msk...@me.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Fri, June 10, 2011 10:19:33 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Vets for Felv cats I am in a unique situation. We live on a military base in Japan with limited resources. I take my cats to a general practice Japanese vet. He has kept my Fuji alive and healthy for almost a year. She is FeLV positive with Mediastinal Lymphoma. I never had the opportunity to give her supplements or any of the other treatments that others use. My own experience had been that a low stress environment, attention to the slightest signs of illness, decent food and lots and lots of love have been sufficient! Of course every cat is different, but it seems as though a regular vet who is willing to do a bit of research on occasion is good enough for an asymptomatic cat. Melinda, Fuji, and VooDoo Sent from my iPhone On Jun 11, 2011, at 11:57 AM, Pam Norman pam_nor...@charter.net wrote: Do you all have your FeLeuk kitties seen by your regular vets? I talked to a wonderful consulting vet I know re Miss Eleanor (formerly Sabrina) his first recommendation was Internal Medicine at U of WI, but then said that this would probably not be necessary as long as she is asymptomatic. That regular blood work, every 6 months, would be the main requirement. Certainly hope that is the case as just a couple of visits to UW would be well over $1000! I would like to combine the services of a good regular vet, which I think I have, altho he freely admits that is practice does not see a lot of FeLeuk kitties - which is probably pretty much the case with all non-specializing vets, I would think, with those of a holistic vet as well. Do any of you do that? Are any of you in Wisconsin? Pam ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Vets for Felv cats
Do you all have your FeLeuk kitties seen by your regular vets? I talked to a wonderful consulting vet I know re Miss Eleanor (formerly Sabrina) his first recommendation was Internal Medicine at U of WI, but then said that this would probably not be necessary as long as she is asymptomatic. That regular blood work, every 6 months, would be the main requirement. Certainly hope that is the case as just a couple of visits to UW would be well over $1000! I would like to combine the services of a good regular vet, which I think I have, altho he freely admits that is practice does not see a lot of FeLeuk kitties - which is probably pretty much the case with all non-specializing vets, I would think, with those of a holistic vet as well. Do any of you do that? Are any of you in Wisconsin? Pam ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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My vet is a GP. treats cats, dogs and lots of horses and cows so his info on things like felv is not as good as a specialist, but, he welcomes every bit of information I bring him. I print out a lot of the things all of the members come up with and he then does his own research on the subject. We have both learned a lot since I got Annie. He said since I do the preliminary research for him, it makes it easier for him to get into the details of it. Pam Norman pam_nor...@charter.net wrote: Do you all have your FeLeuk kitties seen by your regular vets? I talked to a wonderful consulting vet I know re Miss Eleanor (formerly Sabrina) his first recommendation was Internal Medicine at U of WI, but then said that this would probably not be necessary as long as she is asymptomatic. That regular blood work, every 6 months, would be the main requirement. Certainly hope that is the case as just a couple of visits to UW would be well over $1000! I would like to combine the services of a good regular vet, which I think I have, altho he freely admits that is practice does not see a lot of FeLeuk kitties - which is probably pretty much the case with all non-specializing vets, I would think, with those of a holistic vet as well. Do any of you do that? Are any of you in Wisconsin? Pam ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I am in a unique situation. We live on a military base in Japan with limited resources. I take my cats to a general practice Japanese vet. He has kept my Fuji alive and healthy for almost a year. She is FeLV positive with Mediastinal Lymphoma. I never had the opportunity to give her supplements or any of the other treatments that others use. My own experience had been that a low stress environment, attention to the slightest signs of illness, decent food and lots and lots of love have been sufficient! Of course every cat is different, but it seems as though a regular vet who is willing to do a bit of research on occasion is good enough for an asymptomatic cat. Melinda, Fuji, and VooDoo Sent from my iPhone On Jun 11, 2011, at 11:57 AM, Pam Norman pam_nor...@charter.net wrote: Do you all have your FeLeuk kitties seen by your regular vets? I talked to a wonderful consulting vet I know re Miss Eleanor (formerly Sabrina) his first recommendation was Internal Medicine at U of WI, but then said that this would probably not be necessary as long as she is asymptomatic. That regular blood work, every 6 months, would be the main requirement. Certainly hope that is the case as just a couple of visits to UW would be well over $1000! I would like to combine the services of a good regular vet, which I think I have, altho he freely admits that is practice does not see a lot of FeLeuk kitties - which is probably pretty much the case with all non-specializing vets, I would think, with those of a holistic vet as well. Do any of you do that? Are any of you in Wisconsin? Pam ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Hi Pam, I think a good regular vet who is willing to listen is the absolute best kind. I've tried another vet with a larger 24 hour practice who has pioneered some procedures. He was a mean, nasty ego-maniac. I much prefer a smaller practice where they can spend time to get to really know you and your cat, even if they don't see a lot of FeLV. I have also used some specialists when needed, and they have are nice, but very busy and probably don't remember me or my cats in 6 months. Like the difference between a family doctor and a brain surgeon. I would use U of WI as a specialist, and stick with the good regular vet for everything you and he feel comfortable tackling. Hopefully it won't be much, my positives only health issue before the end was a bladder problem unrelated to his FeLV. I know some others here will be able to offer advice on holistic vets, I've never used one for my cats. I guess my only concern would be to keep the regular vet informed of any supplements or treatments that the other one provides, as I think it is really important that they have a complete picture of what is happening with their patient. Best wishes, Beth N. On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 10:57 PM, Pam Norman pam_nor...@charter.net wrote: Do you all have your FeLeuk kitties seen by your regular vets? I talked to a wonderful consulting vet I know re Miss Eleanor (formerly Sabrina) his first recommendation was Internal Medicine at U of WI, but then said that this would probably not be necessary as long as she is asymptomatic. That regular blood work, every 6 months, would be the main requirement. Certainly hope that is the case as just a couple of visits to UW would be well over $1000! I would like to combine the services of a good regular vet, which I think I have, altho he freely admits that is practice does not see a lot of FeLeuk kitties - which is probably pretty much the case with all non-specializing vets, I would think, with those of a holistic vet as well. Do any of you do that? Are any of you in Wisconsin? Pam ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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We have a wonderful holistic-friendly vet who makes house calls. She works in conjunction with our brick and mortar vet for blood work, tests, etc. when necessary. Now that we have lost our two FeLV+ angels, she takes care of our new babies. The house call vet was the one that got us hooked up with LTCI. I'm certain Taj and Rani wouldn't have lasted as long as they did without the LTCI. Both eventually succumbed to lymphomas of different types. Brother and sister. We will always miss them. I don't think it's necessary to have a specialized vet...just a vet who is special and willing to listen. Sara --Original Mail-- From: Pam Norman pam_nor...@charter.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 21:57:02 -0500 Subject: [Felvtalk] Vets for Felv cats Do you all have your FeLeuk kitties seen by your regular vets? I talked to a wonderful consulting vet I know re Miss Eleanor (formerly Sabrina) his first recommendation was Internal Medicine at U of WI, but then said that this would probably not be necessary as long as she is asymptomatic. That regular blood work, every 6 months, would be the main requirement. Certainly hope that is the case as just a couple of visits to UW would be well over $1000! I would like to combine the services of a good regular vet, which I think I have, altho he freely admits that is practice does not see a lot of FeLeuk kitties - which is probably pretty much the case with all non-specializing vets, I would think, with those of a holistic vet as well. Do any of you do that? Are any of you in Wisconsin? Pam ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I have a momma cat who has FeLV and we just discovered 2 out of her 3 kittens do as well. I am desperate to find them homes or a good place to live out their lives as I cannot have any more cats! I am moving out of my current living situation so am now desperate for help. I do not have a place for them to go, literally! So please help if you can. They are sweet and friendly and wonderful. -Original Message- From: Gloria B. Lane gbl...@aristotle.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sat, Jul 3, 2010 1:41 am Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] vets Michelle Lerner has been on this list for a while, and has a friend who does cat rescue in Manhattan lernermiche...@aol.com Gloria On Jul 2, 2010, at 2:25 PM, CATHERINE DIDONNA wrote: tks. a friend told me about a vet in the East Village who does regular meds,and holistic med,is very nice and reasonable. --- On Fri, 7/2/10, Gloria B. Lane gbl...@aristotle.net wrote: From: Gloria B. Lane gbl...@aristotle.net Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] vets To: felvt...@felineleukemia.org Date: Friday, July 2, 2010, 2:55 PM Well we've got a New Yorker on the list or did, now I forget who! Gloria On Jul 1, 2010, at 4:35 PM, CATHERINE DIDONNA wrote: Can anyone recommend a vet that cares about FELV cats in New York City? Thankyou --- On Wed, 6/30/10, Sharyl cline...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Sharyl cline...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] rear leg weakness- Revolution used? and update To: felvt...@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, June 30, 2010, 1:21 PM Amy, based on what you have written I wouldn't worry about the high Ca right now. What was his phos level? There is an issue when both Ca and Phos are high but again that wouldn't affect his hind legs. It could be the anemia. In the end we do what we can with the resources we have. He's lucky to have you loving him. Sharyl --- On Wed, 6/30/10, Amy awilkin...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Amy awilkin...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] rear leg weakness- Revolution used? and update To: felvt...@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, June 30, 2010, 12:12 PM No idea why he has hind leg weakness. I'll researched all the causes and none seem to apply other than the leukemia. He has had routine blood work every 6 months of his life and we have monitored him very closely as we do all our positive cats. No major problems other than some weight loss and IBD over the past couple years. I don't think I've ever taken one of my positive cats to the vet that some level hasn't been off. Historically when I've drawn more blood or done further testing, it always ends up being nothing. I spend lots of money and put the cats through lots of testing and then 6 months later, the value is normal again. I've just grown to step back and not flip out every time I see a low or high value for that reason. I have to say I still feel sick every time I see the HCT drop in one of them though. So that's my hesitation with taking 3 ml of blood from a non-regenerative anemic cat. He just had a full CBC/Chem which is not a small amount of blood and I'm afraid to draw so much blood again when I think his time with me is limited to begin with. The only thing I can come up with as a cause of the hind leg weakness is long term steroid use. I read that it's more common with injectable steroids so not sure if it even applies to pred. He's been on pred for almost a year. However, I have no doubt that it is the one thing that has kept him alive. Neither me or the specialist I'm seeing are even considering taking him off that as I have no doubt he will crash. We tried weaning him off it a year ago after treating him for hemobart and he started going downhill quickly. That said, his bone marrow is shot. He's been non-regenerative for over a year and making red blood cells from his spleen or elsewhere. We knew he couldn't do this forever so I'm not shocked at where we are, just sad. Since he's been anemic for a year and holding steady, I guess the weakness could be a result of the anemia as well. Yet he doesn't seem weak otherwise really. He sleeps a lot and yes it's obvious he doesn't keep up with the other cats but not so weak that it takes too much energy to walk in my opinion. His liver and kidney values are all normal. Appetite is normal. No signs of lymphoma after 2 ultrasounds, probably has IBD and is on EVO which seems to have helped keep that in check. His calcium is just over normal - 11.6 with normal being 8.2-11.5. I looked at blood work from all my other cats and they all run towards the high end, 10 or higher. So I'm weighing the risk worth the benefit of drawing another 3 ml of blood to see if he's really got a high calcium vs just waiting it out and if he's around in a month or so, rechecking it then. Any thoughts or suggestions are welcome. Thank you everyone for all the suggestions. My gut
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duh. i know that michelle is in NJ. i even know that she's in the part of NJ that's near NYC. putting those facts together, however, well -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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But there's someone else, o great white brainey one... Gloria On Jul 3, 2010, at 12:45 PM, MaryChristine wrote: duh. i know that michelle is in NJ. i even know that she's in the part of NJ that's near NYC. putting those facts together, however, well -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org ) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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there IS a members list last i checked--durned if i remember how to get there. but that might spark fading memory cells. brainey one? i'm sorry, i thought that coherent thought was optional in rescue. On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 1:50 PM, Gloria B. Lane gbl...@aristotle.net wrote: But there's someone else, o great white brainey one... Gloria On Jul 3, 2010, at 12:45 PM, MaryChristine wrote: duh. i know that michelle is in NJ. i even know that she's in the part of NJ that's near NYC. putting those facts together, however, well -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue ( www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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OK I cant stop laughing... On Jul 3, 2010, at 1:00 PM, MaryChristine wrote: there IS a members list last i checked--durned if i remember how to get there. but that might spark fading memory cells. brainey one? i'm sorry, i thought that coherent thought was optional in rescue. On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 1:50 PM, Gloria B. Lane gbl...@aristotle.net wrote: But there's someone else, o great white brainey one... Gloria On Jul 3, 2010, at 12:45 PM, MaryChristine wrote: duh. i know that michelle is in NJ. i even know that she's in the part of NJ that's near NYC. putting those facts together, however, well -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue ( www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org ) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Well we've got a New Yorker on the list or did, now I forget who! Gloria On Jul 1, 2010, at 4:35 PM, CATHERINE DIDONNA wrote: Can anyone recommend a vet that cares about FELV cats in New York City? Thankyou --- On Wed, 6/30/10, Sharyl cline...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Sharyl cline...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] rear leg weakness- Revolution used? and update To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, June 30, 2010, 1:21 PM Amy, based on what you have written I wouldn't worry about the high Ca right now. What was his phos level? There is an issue when both Ca and Phos are high but again that wouldn't affect his hind legs. It could be the anemia. In the end we do what we can with the resources we have. He's lucky to have you loving him. Sharyl --- On Wed, 6/30/10, Amy awilkin...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Amy awilkin...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] rear leg weakness- Revolution used? and update To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, June 30, 2010, 12:12 PM No idea why he has hind leg weakness. I'll researched all the causes and none seem to apply other than the leukemia. He has had routine blood work every 6 months of his life and we have monitored him very closely as we do all our positive cats. No major problems other than some weight loss and IBD over the past couple years. I don't think I've ever taken one of my positive cats to the vet that some level hasn't been off. Historically when I've drawn more blood or done further testing, it always ends up being nothing. I spend lots of money and put the cats through lots of testing and then 6 months later, the value is normal again. I've just grown to step back and not flip out every time I see a low or high value for that reason. I have to say I still feel sick every time I see the HCT drop in one of them though. So that's my hesitation with taking 3 ml of blood from a non-regenerative anemic cat. He just had a full CBC/Chem which is not a small amount of blood and I'm afraid to draw so much blood again when I think his time with me is limited to begin with. The only thing I can come up with as a cause of the hind leg weakness is long term steroid use. I read that it's more common with injectable steroids so not sure if it even applies to pred. He's been on pred for almost a year. However, I have no doubt that it is the one thing that has kept him alive. Neither me or the specialist I'm seeing are even considering taking him off that as I have no doubt he will crash. We tried weaning him off it a year ago after treating him for hemobart and he started going downhill quickly. That said, his bone marrow is shot. He's been non-regenerative for over a year and making red blood cells from his spleen or elsewhere. We knew he couldn't do this forever so I'm not shocked at where we are, just sad. Since he's been anemic for a year and holding steady, I guess the weakness could be a result of the anemia as well. Yet he doesn't seem weak otherwise really. He sleeps a lot and yes it's obvious he doesn't keep up with the other cats but not so weak that it takes too much energy to walk in my opinion. His liver and kidney values are all normal. Appetite is normal. No signs of lymphoma after 2 ultrasounds, probably has IBD and is on EVO which seems to have helped keep that in check. His calcium is just over normal - 11.6 with normal being 8.2-11.5. I looked at blood work from all my other cats and they all run towards the high end, 10 or higher. So I'm weighing the risk worth the benefit of drawing another 3 ml of blood to see if he's really got a high calcium vs just waiting it out and if he's around in a month or so, rechecking it then. Any thoughts or suggestions are welcome. Thank you everyone for all the suggestions. My gut tells me that he is close to the point of losing his battle with this disease. I always try to keep hope and remain optimistic but watching one cat after another be taken down by this disease, it's hard to keep the faith sometimes. Fingers crossed, Wolfie will pull through this and defy the odds as he has until now. Amy ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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tks. a friend told me about a vet in the East Village who does regular meds,and holistic med,is very nice and reasonable. --- On Fri, 7/2/10, Gloria B. Lane gbl...@aristotle.net wrote: From: Gloria B. Lane gbl...@aristotle.net Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] vets To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Friday, July 2, 2010, 2:55 PM Well we've got a New Yorker on the list or did, now I forget who! Gloria On Jul 1, 2010, at 4:35 PM, CATHERINE DIDONNA wrote: Can anyone recommend a vet that cares about FELV cats in New York City? Thankyou --- On Wed, 6/30/10, Sharyl cline...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Sharyl cline...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] rear leg weakness- Revolution used? and update To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, June 30, 2010, 1:21 PM Amy, based on what you have written I wouldn't worry about the high Ca right now. What was his phos level? There is an issue when both Ca and Phos are high but again that wouldn't affect his hind legs. It could be the anemia. In the end we do what we can with the resources we have. He's lucky to have you loving him. Sharyl --- On Wed, 6/30/10, Amy awilkin...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Amy awilkin...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] rear leg weakness- Revolution used? and update To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, June 30, 2010, 12:12 PM No idea why he has hind leg weakness. I'll researched all the causes and none seem to apply other than the leukemia. He has had routine blood work every 6 months of his life and we have monitored him very closely as we do all our positive cats. No major problems other than some weight loss and IBD over the past couple years. I don't think I've ever taken one of my positive cats to the vet that some level hasn't been off. Historically when I've drawn more blood or done further testing, it always ends up being nothing. I spend lots of money and put the cats through lots of testing and then 6 months later, the value is normal again. I've just grown to step back and not flip out every time I see a low or high value for that reason. I have to say I still feel sick every time I see the HCT drop in one of them though. So that's my hesitation with taking 3 ml of blood from a non-regenerative anemic cat. He just had a full CBC/Chem which is not a small amount of blood and I'm afraid to draw so much blood again when I think his time with me is limited to begin with. The only thing I can come up with as a cause of the hind leg weakness is long term steroid use. I read that it's more common with injectable steroids so not sure if it even applies to pred. He's been on pred for almost a year. However, I have no doubt that it is the one thing that has kept him alive. Neither me or the specialist I'm seeing are even considering taking him off that as I have no doubt he will crash. We tried weaning him off it a year ago after treating him for hemobart and he started going downhill quickly. That said, his bone marrow is shot. He's been non-regenerative for over a year and making red blood cells from his spleen or elsewhere. We knew he couldn't do this forever so I'm not shocked at where we are, just sad. Since he's been anemic for a year and holding steady, I guess the weakness could be a result of the anemia as well. Yet he doesn't seem weak otherwise really. He sleeps a lot and yes it's obvious he doesn't keep up with the other cats but not so weak that it takes too much energy to walk in my opinion. His liver and kidney values are all normal. Appetite is normal. No signs of lymphoma after 2 ultrasounds, probably has IBD and is on EVO which seems to have helped keep that in check. His calcium is just over normal - 11.6 with normal being 8.2-11.5. I looked at blood work from all my other cats and they all run towards the high end, 10 or higher. So I'm weighing the risk worth the benefit of drawing another 3 ml of blood to see if he's really got a high calcium vs just waiting it out and if he's around in a month or so, rechecking it then. Any thoughts or suggestions are welcome. Thank you everyone for all the suggestions. My gut tells me that he is close to the point of losing his battle with this disease. I always try to keep hope and remain optimistic but watching one cat after another be taken down by this disease, it's hard to keep the faith sometimes. Fingers crossed, Wolfie will pull through this and defy the odds as he has until now. Amy ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk
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um, gloria, dear? new york is a big state! i'm a new yorker after all but everyone, remember to check out belinda's FeLV-friendly list at www.adopt.bemikitties.com. AND ENTER YOUR OWN VET into the database! On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 2:55 PM, Gloria B. Lane gbl...@aristotle.net wrote: Well we've got a New Yorker on the list or did, now I forget who! Gloria -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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yeah, new motto is, a mind is a terrible thing to lose. i can't think of who is in the NYC area--from this list, at least. let me check with some folks who don't read the list much anymore--tho james just posted on facebook, so maybe he'll remember or not. why should he be immune to losing one's mind? you-know-who -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I'm in NY but in Westchester County--Just north of NYC. I like my vet but it would be a real hassle to come up from NYC. -Original Message- From: MaryChristine twelvehousec...@gmail.com Sent: Jul 2, 2010 4:27 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] vets yeah, new motto is, a mind is a terrible thing to lose. i can't think of who is in the NYC area--from this list, at least. let me check with some folks who don't read the list much anymore--tho james just posted on facebook, so maybe he'll remember or not. why should he be immune to losing one's mind? you-know-who -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org