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My heart is breaking for you. I have been in a situation like yours and I know how painful it is not to have the kind of support and understanding you need desperately at this time. I will be praying for you and Akira.Your BF I'm sure is hurting to and can't except the facts, but that doesn't help you. May God give you strength and comfort. Bless Akira and may she be at peace soon. Love, Sheila inline: Clouds.jpg
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Lisa, this must be so hard, but I really have nothing to input, I am so sorry for you. I would just keep taking her outside and try water and food outside.I am sending you both positve thoughts and healing vibes.Cherie[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Update on Akira hi everyone, I just wanted to thank everyone for their prayers so far..and ask everyone to please continue praying.I am so upset and confused Ill tell you that much..I jsut dont know what to dolet me explain..mabey someone here (thanks to those who Ive talked to) can give me some advise/help/reassurance Akira is still hanging in there...she is obviously very weak..she hasnt eaten in 10 daysyet she still isnt yellow I am so second guessing everything right nowshe jsut sleeps mostly..and only gets up to turn herself over when one side is getting sore.she refused water even about 4 days ago now..yet I took ehr outside yesterday again..and she drank some while outside...very little..but still...before that she has been jsut turning her nose up at it too.then again today she refuses it...Ive been giving her a little several times a day just to keep her mouth moist so her lips dont get chapped, or anything...but other than that she doesn't want it.she seems so alert though she still purrs when you pet her,a nd will lift her butt a little if you scratch "the spot", yet she wont get up for anything(but then again who wouldn't bee weak after 10 days not eating)she is so thin..I feel awfulbut I know natural deaths can take a while...up to even 3 weeks!!!..its been 10 days since any signifigant nurishmentand before that the only reall signifigant nurishment was one days worth at the vet.I was force feeding her the week before but she was refusing even that...and jsut not wanting it so she didn't get muchand now 3 days without water (not counting yesterday) The A/C that I had speak with Akira said Akira was ready to go.,...if that was true why is she still hanging on so tightly Her blood tests indicated something going on with her liver..since she hadnt eaten we assumed fatty liver ..but she would have been gone..and at LEAST yellow by now if that was true...so something else may be going on in her liver...BUT the CBC also indicated her FeLV had flared up and was causing problems..possibly even another cancer...which is what her vet was really worried about..her not havign much of a chanceand of course the all mighty $ plays into this whole senario WAY more than I would like it too...Ive got to think about the others tooIve got 7 other animals that I have to think about..and Indy right now is still going through having urinary issues..not so much but he still needs check up..and I would like a pro-raw holistic vet to look at him to hopefully get away from the commercial stuff he hates so much..and perhaps FIX him...rather than bandaid him...I spoke to Michelle (the vet) again today about all my concerns..she is going to fax me the bloopd results and an exact estimate of what all Akira would need and how much it would belike liver biopsy, feeding tube, other tests etcjust to humor me I asked her tooshe thinks it would be best just to let her goand I know she is looking at it form what I would be putting Akira through and myself (financially) through...which I respect...but Im just so worried has has more of a chance than I thought a week ago... Several peeps think I should try the feeding tubebut then what? something made her quit eating and the FeLV is looking like the cullpritplus withher CBC values being like they werethe vet fears the feeding tube may cause more problems...infection, irritation..and just plain not healing rightplus if her body rejects the food or not Im so confused/stressed/worried..yet at teh same time I dont want to make the wrong decisonI wish it was so much more easier...black and white..not so much gray. But she is still comfy, resting, not hiding, refusing food and water,a nd force feedingI dunno.And I still want to let her go naturally..I just dont know if now..I believe the A/C so much or not...if she was ready and wanted to go..why is this taking so long? Either way...PLEASE..everyone continue to pray for her. Lisa and the furbratsAkira, Indy, Spooky, Mona, Lancelot, Bowtie, Bennie and AnzaHave a purrfect day Cherie
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Lisa, Oh hon...I know how hard this is for you, I've been there too. Try not to be too hard on your boyfriend tho. Men are raised to "fix things"...he is seeing the same thing Akira is going through and what you are going through and its tearing him up too...he doesn't know how to "fix it" any more than you do, but see he's "SUPPOSED" to know...;-)so damnit he's gonna try to fix it "if you would just let him"! :-) And what is upsetting to him is that you "don't seem to want to let him help you both." Now I know that Akira is your cat, and the decisions are YOUR's to make, but your bf is scared out of his mind too...of loosing Akira, for his own feelings toward herand of loosing you, because right now, when all his logic tells him you should be needing him the most..you seem to be pushing him away, shutting him out, dismissing him, and he doesn't understand why. I truly doubt he is TRYING to make you feel bad...he prob. just sees your rejection of his suggestions as a rejection of HIM...Let's face it...this might very well be the first time he's had to deal with death without Mom Dad sheltering him from it, or leading him through it...so now all of a sudden he's the "adult" and he's going to help you if it kills you both! (Its very sweet...in a wayas much as it is irritating.) He's trying to play guardian, protector, savior, lover Dad...he doesn't know where to put himself, any more than you do right now...he's as scared as you...maybe more so, because Akira isn't his so he can't actually "take charge"...he feels helpless too...and since helplessness is a "weakness" he might be showing it as anger. I don't know how to tell you to deal with him...I just didn't want you to think that he is trying to hurt you...if he's never been demonstrative toward you before...its prob. just his fear and confusion that he's transferring... At least that's an educated guess from what I've read that you've postedif I've totally missed the mark...forgive me...just trying to help. God Bless. T[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 5/16/2005 4:27:27 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://www.vetinfo.com/cchohep.html#Cholagiohepatitis I want to thank everyone for their continued prayers adn kind words..they mean so much to me.,...I wish I could get hte same here.,...at home.Im so upset and just crying..inside..but can hardley seem to cry outwardly.My bf is not being overly nice about this..he wants to save hr no matter what..which I dont think is going to happen...and he is just making my second guessing myself all that much worseand even (I think..he says not) using it to make me feel worse about not doingt he feeding tube up front..I asked hi what were we supposed to do if one of the other needed vet care soonhes like "I dunno"well what kind of answer is that and then what about her?..and what she wants...I TOLD him it would be a long.,..not so pretty proccess..I dont know what he thought would happen...hes all "shes thin, shes losing her balance, her eye lids (third) are half way up, she ..this and that"..and I KNOWI jsut wish he would shut uphe doesn't care if its natural..he thinks its awful..adn now that I am doing teh what ifs...even more to myself..he is using that to make it worse on me..even though he swears he's not.. .as to everyone's suggestion..I have told her that is is ok for her to go..and I really mean it..I am terrified of seeing her this way... and am terrified of loosing her..she means so mcuh to meshe taught me so much, she has endured so much,...and she has taught others so much,.,,she is so special, and so magicalthis hurts so much..and I feel the only place I can get any comfort is here on the internet..not even at home Yet I really mean its ok for her to go.and I say it as honestly and heart felt as I can...I tell her I understand...and will see her again..adn know she will always be by my side..until she comes back to me... and to Belinda..about teh hepatitis thing..I THINK that that is what teh liver biospy is for that they would have to do to her Lisa and the furbratsAkira, Indy, Spooky, Mona, Lancelot, Bowtie, Bennie and Anza Discover Yahoo! Find restaurants, movies, travel & more fun for the weekend. Check it out!
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Wow, amazingly well written, and I think most likely, totally on the mark for most men. They are psychologically conditioned to be this way from a young age. I'd say, let HIM read that email... it may be a real turning point in his life. I know if I was a man, and I read that, and saw the truth behind it, I might break down. Jenn ~~~ Oh hon...I know how hard this is for you, I've been there too. Try not to be too hard on your boyfriend tho. Men are raised to "fix things"...he is seeing the same thing Akira is going through and what you are going through and its tearing him up too...he doesn't know how to "fix it" any more than you do, but see he's "SUPPOSED" to know...;-)so damnit he's gonna try to fix it "if you would just let him"! :-) And what is upsetting to him is that you "don't seem to want to let him help you both." Now I know that Akira is your cat, and the decisions are YOUR's to make, but your bf is scared out of his mind too...of loosing Akira, for his own feelings toward herand of loosing you, because right now, when all his logic tells him you should be needing him the most..you seem to be pushing him away, shutting him out, dismissing him, and he doesn't understand why. I truly doubt he is TRYING to make you feel bad...he prob. just sees your rejection of his suggestions as a rejection of HIM...Let's face it...this might very well be the first time he's had to deal with death without Mom Dad sheltering him from it, or leading him through it...so now all of a sudden he's the "adult" and he's going to help you if it kills you both! (Its very sweet...in a wayas much as it is irritating.) He's trying to play guardian, protector, savior, lover Dad...he doesn't know where to put himself, any more than you do right now...he's as scared as you...maybe more so, because Akira isn't his so he can't actually "take charge"...he feels helpless too...and since helplessness is a "weakness" he might be showing it as anger. I don't know how to tell you to deal with him...I just didn't want you to think that he is trying to hurt you...if he's never been demonstrative toward you before...its prob. just his fear and confusion that he's transferring... At least that's an educated guess from what I've read that you've postedif I've totally missed the mark...forgive me...just trying to help. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.11 - Release Date: 5/16/2005
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In a message dated 5/17/2005 11:13:02 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Would whoever sent teh following message please email me privatlly...it did not come through the digest Message: 2Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 11:11:08 -0400From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: RE..Update Akira (the psychological conditioning of the human male)To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgMessage-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"Skipped content of type multipart/alternative-- next part --No virus found in this outgoing message.Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.11 - Release Date: 5/16/2005 Lisa and the furbratsAkira, Indy, Spooky, Mona, Lancelot, Bowtie, Bennie and Anza
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I have to stick up for Jenn here. When my Arielle was ready to go, I had her PTS. The vet was gentle, very kind, and I held her the whole time. Of course, you have to follow your own conscience, but I am not opposed to humane euthanasia. My 2 cents. =^..^= Terri, Salome', Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Sammi, and 5 furangels: RuthieGirl, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth and Alec =^..^= Furkid Photos! http://mysite.verizon.net/vze7sgqa/My FeLV Site: http://pages.ivillage.com/ruthiegirl1/MyFeLVinformationSite/My Personal Page: http://www.geocities.com/ruthiegirl1/terrispage.html?1083970447350 - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 10:57 PM Subject: Re: RE..Update Akira I've not been responding with any suggestions so far, because I'm probably in the minority in my opinion, but I think she is suffering needlessly, and that HUMANE euthanasia would be the kindest thing for her at this point. I do not think that putting her through all the invasive procedures of biopsies and feeding tubes is the right thing to do. I know that if I ever get to that point, I HOPE that someone will have the kindness to ease my suffering and end my dwindling life (hopefully it will be legal by then). That's just how I feel though, and I'm not you, and she's not my cat, and I do not want you to in any way think that I am judging you, or criticizing your actions. It's just that you asked for opinions so many times, and I held my tongue a few times, but your plea has finally given me the will to say what I know will probably be my unpopular opinion. Whatever you decide, PLEASE make sure it is the decision that your heart tells you is the RIGHT one, because I know what living with regret every day feels like, and I don't want anyone to feel that kind of pain! My sincerest wishes of peace and understanding go out to you and Akira! Jenn ~~~ Thank you for the suggestion...I have toldher numerous timesyet wonder if she doesn't believe me? Or if even my BF is complicating things by telling her no..even though in front of me and her he says its oktonight when I got home form work she looked so much worse...I want to do as she wants but yet I fear I cant stomach it...I feel so awful about it and then my BF really is making things worse on me b/c he wants to put her through the biopsy, feeding tube, and is playing on my confusion right now...and is saying "I told you so" about wanting to treat her...in more subtle ways (not really saying I told you so..in fact saying he isn't..but it sure comes across that way) I got an estimate form my vet...after a bit of pesteringit would be over 600$ just to start the feeding tube...and to perform the next steps of testing to see if she is even helpable..plus she would be in the hospital for a week or more to start with..and being put under for biopsy's and the insertion of the tube..I just don't know if it is worth it..to put her though it... No virus found in this outgoing message.Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.10 - Release Date: 5/13/2005
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Lisa, Honestly cats can stop eating for seemingly no reason at all, stress can also cause them to stop eating. There is a condition called Cholagiohepatitis http://www.vetinfo.com/cchohep.html#Cholagiohepatitis Was she checked for this? -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candle Light Service http://www.bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting web design) http://HostDesign4U.com --- BMK Designs (non-profit web sites) http://bmk.bemikitties.com
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Lisa, Just because Akira (great name by the way) is ready to go...doesn't mean she knows HOW to go. My aunt was dying of cancer and was absolutely ready to go for three monthsit still took those three months for her body to reconcile with her spirit. Even tho we all KNOW better...I think we all function under the hope that THIS time, THIS animal will live foreverwe will stun all the vets and all the world with the fact that THIS animal is...20, 30, 40 yrs. old and won't actually die until that very minute that we do. Its not realistic...we KNOW its not realistic...but still, somewhere deep inside...we hope, we're certain...we know that this time, this one will live forever. Part of that is because, this one WILL live forever, as will they all...unfortunately..the body has an expiration date. Akira sounds like she's doing "well"...as it were. She doesn't seem scared, or in pain...she's purring, so she's prob. happy. Your stress is coming from you...your fear of losing her...your dread ofbeing withouther...and somewhere deep inside, the part you...(ALL of us who deal with the terminal loved one have been there at one time or another) that just wants it to be over with...and the misplaced guilt that comes with that. Its like having a gun pointed at you, and waiting for it to go off. I've been were you are...don't own the guilt, there is no sense to it. You are trying to cover all the basis...to make certain that you've done- EVERYTHING humanly possiblebut think about that for a minute...with all the money, all the proceedures you could throw at Akira...what will your end result be...what will the road be for her...what quality of life would it really buy her? Like a doctor once said"I can give a glass of water vital signs." Try to stop. BREATHE...ask yourself what the next step is that's best for both you and Akira. It may be allowing her to die, managing her pain while she does soor ..helping her to die with the assistance of a vet. Dying is not a bad thing. It is a natural part of lifeeverything that is born...must die- the body that is. Taking care of a pet during its life, is as natural as the duty of helping it to pass, in which ever way is best for you both. I'm sorry that you have to go through all this. Just remember to take time to breathe and try to enjoy what time you have left together. I'll keep you both in my prayers. God Bless. Akira is lucky to have you...and she knows it. T [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Update on Akira hi everyone, I just wanted to thank everyone for their prayers so far..and ask everyone to please continue praying.I am so upset and confused Ill tell you that much..I jsut dont know what to dolet me explain..mabey someone here (thanks to those who Ive talked to) can give me some advise/help/reassurance Akira is still hanging in there...she is obviously very weak..she hasnt eaten in 10 daysyet she still isnt yellow I am so second guessing everything right nowshe jsut sleeps mostly..and only gets up to turn herself over when one side is getting sore.she refused water even about 4 days ago now..yet I took ehr outside yesterday again..and she drank some while outside...very little..but still...before that she has been jsut turning her nose up at it too.then again today she refuses it...Ive been giving her a little several times a day just to keep her mouth moist so her lips dont get chapped, or anything...but other than that she doesn't want it.she seems so alert though she still purrs when you pet her,a nd will lift her butt a little if you scratch "the spot", yet she wont get up for anything(but then again who wouldn't bee weak after 10 days not eating)she is so thin..I feel awfulbut I know natural deaths can take a while...up to even 3 weeks!!!..its been 10 days since any signifigant nurishmentand before that the only reall signifigant nurishment was one days worth at the vet.I was force feeding her the week before but she was refusing even that...and jsut not wanting it so she didn't get muchand now 3 days without water (not counting yesterday) The A/C that I had speak with Akira said Akira was ready to go.,...if that was true why is she still hanging on so tightly Her blood tests indicated something going on with her liver..since she hadnt eaten we assumed fatty liver ..but she would have been gone..and at LEAST yellow by now if that was true...so something else may be going on in her liver...BUT the CBC also indicated her FeLV had flared up and was causing problems..possibly even another cancer...which is what her vet was really worried about..her not havign much of a chanceand of course the all mighty $ plays into this whole senario WAY more than I would like it too...Ive got to think about the others tooIve got 7 other animals that I have to think about..and Indy right now is still going through having urinary is
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When Simon got jaundiced and his liver looked funny on the ultrasound, they said it was either lymphoma or cholangiohepatits. Unfortunately the biopsy said the former. Cholangiohepatitis is treatable with antibiotics. Michelle In a message dated 5/16/05 3:58:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Lisa, Honestly cats can stop eating for seemingly no reason at all, stress can also cause them to stop eating. There is a condition called Cholagiohepatitis http://www.vetinfo.com/cchohep.html#CholagiohepatitisWas she checked for this?
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Lisa, I wish I had some advice for you. Have you tried force feeding recently to see if she's more agreeable to it? I don't know what to tell you I'm sorry that you are going through this right now. It sounds like Akira is comfortable though. I don't know how she could be.. but it seems like she is. I wish they could talk. : ( tonya[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Update on Akira hi everyone, I just wanted to thank everyone for their prayers so far..and ask everyone to please continue praying.I am so upset and confused Ill tell you that much..I jsut dont know what to dolet me explain..mabey someone here (thanks to those who Ive talked to) can give me some advise/help/reassurance Akira is still hanging in there...she is obviously very weak..she hasnt eaten in 10 daysyet she still isnt yellow I am so second guessing everything right nowshe jsut sleeps mostly..and only gets up to turn herself over when one side is getting sore.she refused water even about 4 days ago now..yet I took ehr outside yesterday again..and she drank some while outside...very little..but still...before that she has been jsut turning her nose up at it too.then again today she refuses it...Ive been giving her a little several times a day just to keep her mouth moist so her lips dont get chapped, or anything...but other than that she doesn't want it.she seems so alert though she still purrs when you pet her,a nd will lift her butt a little if you scratch "the spot", yet she wont get up for anything(but then again who wouldn't bee weak after 10 days not eating)she is so thin..I feel awfulbut I know natural deaths can take a while...up to even 3 weeks!!!..its been 10 days since any signifigant nurishmentand before that the only reall signifigant nurishment was one days worth at the vet.I was force feeding her the week before but she was refusing even that...and jsut not wanting it so she didn't get muchand now 3 days without water (not counting yesterday) The A/C that I had speak with Akira said Akira was ready to go.,...if that was true why is she still hanging on so tightly Her blood tests indicated something going on with her liver..since she hadnt eaten we assumed fatty liver ..but she would have been gone..and at LEAST yellow by now if that was true...so something else may be going on in her liver...BUT the CBC also indicated her FeLV had flared up and was causing problems..possibly even another cancer...which is what her vet was really worried about..her not havign much of a chanceand of course the all mighty $ plays into this whole senario WAY more than I would like it too...Ive got to think about the others tooIve got 7 other animals that I have to think about..and Indy right now is still going through having urinary issues..not so much but he still needs check up..and I would like a pro-raw holistic vet to look at him to hopefully get away from the commercial stuff he hates so much..and perhaps FIX him...rather than bandaid him...I spoke to Michelle (the vet) again today about all my concerns..she is going to fax me the bloopd results and an exact estimate of what all Akira would need and how much it would belike liver biopsy, feeding tube, other tests etcjust to humor me I asked her tooshe thinks it would be best just to let her goand I know she is looking at it form what I would be putting Akira through and myself (financially) through...which I respect...but Im just so worried has has more of a chance than I thought a week ago... Several peeps think I should try the feeding tubebut then what? something made her quit eating and the FeLV is looking like the cullpritplus withher CBC values being like they werethe vet fears the feeding tube may cause more problems...infection, irritation..and just plain not healing rightplus if her body rejects the food or not Im so confused/stressed/worried..yet at teh same time I dont want to make the wrong decisonI wish it was so much more easier...black and white..not so much gray. But she is still comfy, resting, not hiding, refusing food and water,a nd force feedingI dunno.And I still want to let her go naturally..I just dont know if now..I believe the A/C so much or not...if she was ready and wanted to go..why is this taking so long? Either way...PLEASE..everyone continue to pray for her. Lisa and the furbratsAkira, Indy, Spooky, Mona, Lancelot, Bowtie, Bennie and Anza
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In a message dated 5/16/2005 4:27:27 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://www.vetinfo.com/cchohep.html#Cholagiohepatitis I want to thank everyone for their continued prayers adn kind words..they mean so much to me.,...I wish I could get hte same here.,...at home.Im so upset and just crying..inside..but can hardley seem to cry outwardly.My bf is not being overly nice about this..he wants to save hr no matter what..which I dont think is going to happen...and he is just making my second guessing myself all that much worseand even (I think..he says not) using it to make me feel worse about not doingt he feeding tube up front..I asked hi what were we supposed to do if one of the other needed vet care soonhes like "I dunno"well what kind of answer is that and then what about her?..and what she wants...I TOLD him it would be a long.,..not so pretty proccess..I dont know what he thought would happen...hes all "shes thin, shes losing her balance, her eye lids (third) are half way up, she ..this and that"..and I KNOWI jsut wish he would shut uphe doesn't care if its natural..he thinks its awful..adn now that I am doing teh what ifs...even more to myself..he is using that to make it worse on me..even though he swears he's not.. .as to everyone's suggestion..I have told her that is is ok for her to go..and I really mean it..I am terrified of seeing her this way... and am terrified of loosing her..she means so mcuh to meshe taught me so much, she has endured so much,...and she has taught others so much,.,,she is so special, and so magicalthis hurts so much..and I feel the only place I can get any comfort is here on the internet..not even at home Yet I really mean its ok for her to go.and I say it as honestly and heart felt as I can...I tell her I understand...and will see her again..adn know she will always be by my side..until she comes back to me... and to Belinda..about teh hepatitis thing..I THINK that that is what teh liver biospy is for that they would have to do to her Lisa and the furbratsAkira, Indy, Spooky, Mona, Lancelot, Bowtie, Bennie and Anza
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I've not been responding with any suggestions so far, because I'm probably in the minority in my opinion, but I think she is suffering needlessly, and that HUMANE euthanasia would be the kindest thing for her at this point. I do not think that putting her through all the invasive procedures of biopsies and feeding tubes is the right thing to do. I know that if I ever get to that point, I HOPE that someone will have the kindness to ease my suffering and end my dwindling life (hopefully it will be legal by then). That's just how I feel though, and I'm not you, and she's not my cat, and I do not want you to in any way think that I am judging you, or criticizing your actions. It's just that you asked for opinions so many times, and I held my tongue a few times, but your plea has finally given me the will to say what I know will probably be my unpopular opinion. Whatever you decide, PLEASE make sure it is the decision that your heart tells you is the RIGHT one, because I know what living with regret every day feels like, and I don't want anyone to feel that kind of pain! My sincerest wishes of peace and understanding go out to you and Akira! Jenn ~~~ Thank you for the suggestion...I have toldher numerous timesyet wonder if she doesn't believe me? Or if even my BF is complicating things by telling her no..even though in front of me and her he says its oktonight when I got home form work she looked so much worse...I want to do as she wants but yet I fear I cant stomach it...I feel so awful about it and then my BF really is making things worse on me b/c he wants to put her through the biopsy, feeding tube, and is playing on my confusion right now...and is saying "I told you so" about wanting to treat her...in more subtle ways (not really saying I told you so..in fact saying he isn't..but it sure comes across that way) I got an estimate form my vet...after a bit of pesteringit would be over 600$ just to start the feeding tube...and to perform the next steps of testing to see if she is even helpable..plus she would be in the hospital for a week or more to start with..and being put under for biopsy's and the insertion of the tube..I just don't know if it is worth it..to put her though it... No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.10 - Release Date: 5/13/2005
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Lisa, Everyone has their own ideas about euthanasia. You have to do what is right for you and what you feel is right for Akira. I'm not you, and would not presume to tell you what is right in your situation. When I have been in similar situations I have sometimes chosen to euthanize, and sometimes I chose to treat. I think Jenn made some good points in her response. I am praying for you and Akira. I am so sorry. I do know how hard it is to have to make the decision whether to put your precious friend through medical procedures that may or may not help, and how difficult it is to make the decision to let them go whether it be naturally or by deciding to help them. It is so hard. But we are only human. We have no way of knowing what the right thing to do is. It's unfair that the decision is put on YOU. I will say that when I've had these kinds of decisions to make I've found it helpful to sit down one on one and spend a lot of time talking to my cats and really looking into their eyes for answers. With each one it was different, but after a time I finally came up with a decision to treat or let go that I truly felt was a decision we 'agreed' on in some unspoken way. It gave me more of a feeling of peace. I wish I could help in some way, and you weren't in this position. I don't know how I really feel about animal communicators, but I dothink that there is a stronger bond and stronger communication between you and Akira than with an AC and Akira. What seems right to the two of you is what is most important. tonya[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've not been responding with any suggestions so far, because I'm probably in the minority in my opinion, but I think she is suffering needlessly, and that HUMANE euthanasia would be the kindest thing for her at this point. I do not think that putting her through all the invasive procedures of biopsies and feeding tubes is the right thing to do. I know that if I ever get to that point, I HOPE that someone will have the kindness to ease my suffering and end my dwindling life (hopefully it will be legal by then). That's just how I feel though, and I'm not you, and she's not my cat, and I do not want you to in any way think that I am judging you, or criticizing your actions. It's just that you asked for opinions so many times, and I held my tongue a few times, but your plea has finally given me the will to say what I know will probably be my unpopular opinion. Whatever you decide, PLEASE make sure it is the decision that your heart tells you is the RIGHT one, because I know what living with regret every day feels like, and I don't want anyone to feel that kind of pain! My sincerest wishes of peace and understanding go out to you and Akira! Jenn ~~~ Thank you for the suggestion...I have toldher numerous timesyet wonder if she doesn't believe me? Or if even my BF is complicating things by telling her no..even though in front of me and her he says its oktonight when I got home form work she looked so much worse...I want to do as she wants but yet I fear I cant stomach it...I feel so awful about it and then my BF really is making things worse on me b/c he wants to put her through the biopsy, feeding tube, and is playing on my confusion right now...and is saying "I told you so" about wanting to treat her...in more subtle ways (not really saying I told you so..in fact saying he isn't..but it sure comes across that way) I got an estimate form my vet...after a bit of pesteringit would be over 600$ just to start the feeding tube...and to perform the next steps of testing to see if she is even helpable..plus she would be in the hospital for a week or more to start with..and being put under for biopsy's and the insertion of the tube..I just don't know if it is worth it..to put her though it... No virus found in this outgoing message.Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.10 - Release Date: 5/13/2005
Re: RE..Update Akira
Re: euthanasia, everyone has their own take on it. I think it is ok to let Akira go on her own, and it sounds like there are still things she is enjoying, even if you are willing to help her at the point if/when she stops enjoying anything. But I do not see any harm in giving sub q fluids if it does not freak her out, and giving a shot of dexamethasone to see if it helps. Neither will hurt and they could make her much more comfortable. Many dying humans are on dexamethasone I have heard, as it increases feelings of physical and mental well-being. Given how long she has held on, though, I am also not sure that a test or two would be a bad idea to see if this is something she can actually survive. I can not see her, only you can, so you have a better idea. I did not think she had hope of surviving before you emailed how she is doing these last few days. I don't know if you remember what happened with Simon, but he seemed at least as close to death a month before he actually died. He could not walk or even hold himself up in the litter box-- I had to hold him in there, and he had not eaten or been fed for 3 days or drunk anything for 2 days. I loaded him up with steroids and then thought there was no hope and just stayed with him, thinking he would die, and all of a sudden one night he started drinking and eating and by the next day was walking around and jumping. He only had another month after that, but most of it was really good time-- eating, playing, cuddling, going outside, and even climbing up a carpeted wall into the ceiling (the first feline in the house to do that). I am not saying Akira could have a month, and I am not saying that everyone would or should think that a month is worth intervention of any kind, but I do want to convey to you that I and everyone on this list thought Simon was in the process of dying when some simple steroid shots pulled him out of it. He then got more chemo, of course, which is probably what gave him most of the month. Basically, I do not think that you are necessarily wrong in what you are thinking and what you are doing, but I do not think your boyfriend is necessarily wrong either. There might be things that could save her, or at least give her a little more quality time, but you can't know without trying them. It may be that she does not want that, that you do not want that, and/or that you can not afford it. I am just saying that it really might be possible. I have let several cats go without euthanasia, and have also done euthanasia right at the end when they clearly enter the last stage of dying (respiratory distress). I do not euthanize before that except in exceptional circumstances where it is clear something really horrible is about to happen. So I have seen a lot of last days. I personally have never seen the dying process take 10 days. Perhaps that is because I have given fluids, steroids, and feedings until they could not accept them anymore due to vomiting, etc., but it is usually pretty close to the end at that point. I may be wrong, as I only know what has happened to my own animals and clearly I have not seen everything, but it seems to me that if she is taking this long to die she has, or had, some reserves and really was not, and maybe is not, so close to death. I am not sure where that leaves anything, but I just wanted to counterbalance the suggestion to euthanize her. I am not saying that such suggestion is wrong; I just disagree with it because I have seen amazing rebounds, and what Akira is going through and doing makes it seem to me that the absence of food and water are probably what are making her the weakest right now. Prayers to you both, Michelle
Re: Akira..
Lisa, You are so strong and couragous, your BF might just not understand, but at least he cares for Akira, and is wanting to know about her well being, can you not just sit outside with her on your lap, that might be nice for her, she is a strong little kitty, I know it is hard to watch them go, keep up your own strength you are going to need it, take care Lisa, we are all here for you.. Cherie[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 5/11/2005 7:12:31 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Lisa, is Akira gone? I somehow missed an email if she actually has passed. I am very sorry. I think you know how sorry I am, and how keenly I know what you are going through. Thanks for asking...but no..she isnt yet...this is so hard...she is sleeping alot...I really dont think it will be long..Im jsut trying to keep her comfy..my BF said that just before I got home she got up, went into the other room adn threw up..shich isnt a good sign..she doesn't have ANYTHING..but mabey a bit of water to throw up...she still purrs when I come into the rooma dn pet her, bless her heart..and this afternnoon before I wnet to work..I asked her if she wanted to go outside..she popped up and trotted to the door waiting for her leash...she loves being outside so much.,I cant wait for her to be whole and healthy again and able to be free outside as much as she wants.It is sucha horribel thing she had to have theis FeLV..even more so that she must be confined from her love of the outdoor world so much...She got to go for walks..but how she would have loved an outdoor enclosure..to stay in whenever she wanted...but we rent so never could build it...soon she will be romping in fields, lounging in the sun she loves so very muchIm going to ask the vet tomorrow to call me in some metrocloprimide injections for her...so she wont be feeling nauseusshe is so week..yet so alert..this is so hardmy BF really doesn't understand why she doesn't have a chance...he keeps calling me asking over and over again..I told him to just call the vet for ehr to explain it to him..but he wontIm having a hard enough time coping with this on my own to be having to justify it to him 5 times a day. Lisa and the furbratsAkira, Indy, Spooky, Mona, Lancelot, Bowtie, Bennie and AnzaHave a purrfect day Cherie
RE: Akira..
Dear Lisa, Have you tried to use Sulphur (homeopathic remedy) or Pulstilla (sorry I can never spell right) by any chance? If not, please try them it will not do any harm, but it may bring a miracle.. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 8:33 PM To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Akira.. In a message dated 5/11/2005 7:12:31 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Lisa, is Akira gone? I somehow missed an email if she actually has passed. I am very sorry. I think you know how sorry I am, and how keenly I know what you are going through. Thanks for asking...but no..she isnt yet...this is so hard...she is sleeping alot...I really dont think it will be long..Im jsut trying to keep her comfy..my BF said that just before I got home she got up, went into the other room adn threw up..shich isnt a good sign..she doesn't have ANYTHING..but mabey a bit of water to throw up...she still purrs when I come into the rooma dn pet her, bless her heart..and this afternnoon before I wnet to work..I asked her if she wanted to go outside..she popped up and trotted to the door waiting for her leash...she loves being outside so much.,I cant wait for her to be whole and healthy again and able to be free outside as much as she wants.It is sucha horribel thing she had to have theis FeLV..even more so that she must be confined from her love of the outdoor world so much...She got to go for walks..but how she would have loved an outdoor enclosure..to stay in whenever she wanted...but we rent so never could build it...soon she will be romping in fields, lounging in the sun she loves so very muchIm going to ask the vet tomorrow to call me in some metrocloprimide injections for her...so she wont be feeling nauseusshe is so week..yet so alert..this is so hardmy BF really doesn't understand why she doesn't have a chance...he keeps calling me asking over and over again..I told him to just call the vet for ehr to explain it to him..but he wontIm having a hard enough time coping with this on my own to be having to justify it to him 5 times a day. Lisa and the furbrats Akira, Indy, Spooky, Mona, Lancelot, Bowtie, Bennie and Anza
RE: Re Akira needs prayers
Lisa, Many cats gets stressed out at vets. Perhaps Akira will eat for you. Try putting some kitty-vite (supplement gel) on her paw. After that, try some tasty treats. My cat went for days not eating anything and using this stuff. Also, you may want to give her milk thistle for her liver. It will help until she eats again. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re Akira needs prayers Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 10:23:35 EDT In a message dated 5/6/2005 10:18:00 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thank you so much everyone.I am so worried...they were supposed to be feeding her for the first time at 10 so Im about to call them.. I just called them...they have her on fluids...and have tried feeding her...but she wont let them feed her..I told them to tube her if nessacarythe day just keeps getting worse. Lisa and the furbrats Akira, Indy, Spooky, Mona, Lancelot, Bowtie, Bennie and Anza
Akira..and Janet
In a message dated 5/11/2005 12:01:03 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dear Lisa, I had a chance to talk to Janet (AC) - she mentioned to mehow impressed she was with Akira's emotional and mental strength -sometimes we underestimated how strong and supportive they can be for us- for obvious reasons, we just don't know about it - I am thinking ofyou and Akira - Thank You so much..yes she was amazed by herI have never ahd a professional speak to her before..but several amauters have just for practice..and they have all always said the same thing...about how unbeliveable her spirit ismy BF doesent understand...he says what Janet told me was so general...and it would be...if it hadnt been for it being so simialr..adn her emotion in saying it..as so many others have saideveryone who has spoken to Akira come across in amazement...saying her soul is "un-naturally" strong and amzazing...Janet called her an angelic being in physical form..she says she has only encountered a few before..I have had others liken her to..angelic..adn unicorns as the strength, wisdom,and power that her soul is so full ofit is a hard thing to be loosing..the energy ffom her being so near...I can only pray she is as comfortable and sure of ehrself as she says she is...my beloved Angel Akira even in lifeShe is so peacefull right now..its like she is 'just sleeping" not sick at all...it is so hardgranted if she was "just sleeping" it wouldn't be so much, and she would be much more active...but you just keep tryign to tell yourself.that she's not dying..just napping Lisa and the furbratsAkira, Indy, Spooky, Mona, Lancelot, Bowtie, Bennie and Anza
Re: Akira..and Janet
Lisa, I am weeping for you, I know how hard it is, I went through something similar with a 24 year old kitty. Very difficult and I hope you can be strong as you are being now, and definately do not stop talking about her and we are all here for you. Cherie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 5/11/2005 12:01:03 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dear Lisa, I had a chance to talk to Janet (AC) - she mentioned to mehow impressed she was with Akira's emotional and mental strength -sometimes we underestimated how strong and supportive they can be for us- for obvious reasons, we just don't know about it - I am thinking ofyou and Akira - Thank You so much..yes she was amazed by herI have never ahd a professional speak to her before..but several amauters have just for practice..and they have all always said the same thing...about how unbeliveable her spirit ismy BF doesent understand...he says what Janet told me was so general...and it would be...if it hadnt been for it being so simialr..adn her emotion in saying it..as so many others have saideveryone who has spoken to Akira come across in amazement...saying her soul is "un-naturally" strong and amzazing...Janet called her an angelic being in physical form..she says she has only encountered a few before..I have had others liken her to..angelic..adn unicorns as the strength, wisdom,and power that her soul is so full ofit is a hard thing to be loosing..the energy ffom her being so near...I can only pray she is as comfortable and sure of ehrself as she says she is...my beloved Angel Akira even in lifeShe is so peacefull right now..its like she is 'just sleeping" not sick at all...it is so hardgranted if she was "just sleeping" it wouldn't be so much, and she would be much more active...but you just keep tryign to tell yourself.that she's not dying..just napping Lisa and the furbratsAkira, Indy, Spooky, Mona, Lancelot, Bowtie, Bennie and AnzaHave a purrfect day Cherie
RE: Akira..and Janet
Janet, once told me that once you learned to speak with your animals in the way they do you will develop a whole different perception about life and death death does not seem to be so far away, as the soul continues to live whether as a soul or someone elses body and I find much peace in it Obviously, regardless of the physical condition of Akira, her soul is as strong and alert as it can be and I find it very comforting to know that I know I try to be selective as to whom I recommend about AC as some people think I am a nut but you just have to experience it to believe it she also help finding lost animals and I find it critical to have her in my life as I have so many animals Hugs and love to you, Akira, Indy, Spooky, Mona, Lancelot, Bowtie, Bennie and Anz From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 10:35 AM To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Akira..and Janet In a message dated 5/11/2005 12:01:03 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dear Lisa, I had a chance to talk to Janet (AC) - she mentioned to me how impressed she was with Akira's emotional and mental strength - sometimes we underestimated how strong and supportive they can be for us - for obvious reasons, we just don't know about it - I am thinking of you and Akira - Thank You so much..yes she was amazed by herI have never ahd a professional speak to her before..but several amauters have just for practice..and they have all always said the same thing...about how unbeliveable her spirit ismy BF doesent understand...he says what Janet told me was so general...and it would be...if it hadnt been for it being so simialr..adn her emotion in saying it..as so many others have saideveryone who has spoken to Akira come across in amazement...saying her soul is un-naturally strong and amzazing...Janet called her an angelic being in physical form..she says she has only encountered a few before..I have had others liken her to..angelic..adn unicorns as the strength, wisdom,and power that her soul is so full ofit is a hard thing to be loosing..the energy ffom her being so near...I can only pray she is as comfortable and sure of ehrself as she says she is...my beloved Angel Akira even in lifeShe is so peacefull right now..its like she is 'just sleeping not sick at all...it is so hardgranted if she was just sleeping it wouldn't be so much, and she would be much more active...but you just keep tryign to tell yourself.that she's not dying..just napping Lisa and the furbrats Akira, Indy, Spooky, Mona, Lancelot, Bowtie, Bennie and Anza
Akira..
In a message dated 5/11/2005 7:12:31 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Lisa, is Akira gone? I somehow missed an email if she actually has passed. I am very sorry. I think you know how sorry I am, and how keenly I know what you are going through. Thanks for asking...but no..she isnt yet...this is so hard...she is sleeping alot...I really dont think it will be long..Im jsut trying to keep her comfy..my BF said that just before I got home she got up, went into the other room adn threw up..shich isnt a good sign..she doesn't have ANYTHING..but mabey a bit of water to throw up...she still purrs when I come into the rooma dn pet her, bless her heart..and this afternnoon before I wnet to work..I asked her if she wanted to go outside..she popped up and trotted to the door waiting for her leash...she loves being outside so much.,I cant wait for her to be whole and healthy again and able to be free outside as much as she wants.It is sucha horribel thing she had to have theis FeLV..even more so that she must be confined from her love of the outdoor world so much...She got to go for walks..but how she would have loved an outdoor enclosure..to stay in whenever she wanted...but we rent so never could build it...soon she will be romping in fields, lounging in the sun she loves so very muchIm going to ask the vet tomorrow to call me in some metrocloprimide injections for her...so she wont be feeling nauseusshe is so week..yet so alert..this is so hardmy BF really doesn't understand why she doesn't have a chance...he keeps calling me asking over and over again..I told him to just call the vet for ehr to explain it to him..but he wontIm having a hard enough time coping with this on my own to be having to justify it to him 5 times a day. Lisa and the furbratsAkira, Indy, Spooky, Mona, Lancelot, Bowtie, Bennie and Anza
Re: Akira..
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Re: Akira..
Lisa, Jaundice causes nausea, and if she is really jaundiced then any little thing in her will make her throw up. If she will tolerate subcutaneous fluids and you know how to give them, that might make her a bit more comfortable and she will not throw it up because it does not go through the stomach. it might reduce the nausea a little. Are you giving her reglan (metaclopramide)? This is an anti-nausea drug, stronger than pepcid. Giving that or pepcid might also help. Steroids, like dexamethasone or prednisone, might also help her feel better, both physically and emotionally. apparently many dying humans are on deximethasone for increased comfort. I am so sorry. I think you know that I went through this with Simon. He had lymphoma and was jaundiced from having it in his liver. He ultimately died of anemia, at a point when his jaundice was gone, so he did not die of what akira will probably die of. But I did see him very jaundiced and exhausted and nauseous from it, before he had chemo. I don't know if Akira is beyond help, disease-wise. I probably should have mentioned this earlier, but someone on the lymphoma list serve (Belinda, was it you?) did have a cat with lymphoma and fatty liver, and did the feeding tube for months while doing chemo. Her cat recovered for over a year, I think. I am not sure of the details. I do not think the cat, Buddie, was FeLV+ though. I want to tell you this in case you did not know. If Akira is still going for walks she is not as far gone as I had thought. But I also understand that she has so many barriers to recovery. You are b oth in my thoughts. Michelle
Akira
Lisa, I am so sorry. We are never ready for their time when it comes. I hope the passing is peaceful. I am glad for you that you found her and knew such love. blessed be, Barbara
Re Akira...and digest mail
Hi guys, dont know what is going on but I get the digest and there are a lot of post that are directed to me and Akira that come in the digest with no message..it just says Message: 2Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 22:33:05 -0400From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: AkiraTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgMessage-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"Skipped content of type multipart/alternative-- next part --No virus found in this outgoing message.Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.6 - Release Date: 5/6/2005 So if anyone has an messages for me please email me privately so I get them Lisa and the furbratsAkira, Indy, Spooky, Mona, Lancelot, Bowtie, Bennie and Anza
Resend: Re Akira...and digest mail
Lisa, I'm so sorry...everyone has pretty much said what I would have said. I have shed some tears as I type this to you and the group. I remember when you first joined and ask many questions on how to keep Akira healthy. You are doing the most loving thing by letting her go at home surrounded by love. It is never easy to lose these special furbabies no matter what anyone says to try and make us feel better. Bless you for being there for her. All the other furangels await for her at the bridge along with my furangels. If you would like to vent you can email or call me and I will listen to what you have to say. Please be positive because sometimes we can be bitter and hateful over this. Think of all the future FELV kitties that may come your way for help and love. You both are in my thoughts and prayers :( Terrie (425) 344-6933 In a message dated 5/9/2005 11:09:38 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thank you so much for that..I will tell her...Im sure she will be happy to hear it...That is what she was here for (per herself)..to teach and inspireI am so happy to hear that she helped you (her story) with your kittythat means so much...She is resting peacefully right now...but I dont think it will be longall the light and love helps the passingit means so much to her..thank you everyone!!! Lisa and the furbratsAkira, Indy, Spooky, Mona, Lancelot, Bowtie, Bennie and Anza Terrie MohrCheck site for available Siameses for adoption!http://www.iGive.com/TAZZYShttps://www.paypal.com/TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTShttp://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescuehttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.htmlhttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.htmlTAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTSSIAMESE COLLIE RESCUEOwner/DriverPetfinder.comAdopt a Homeless Pet!http://www.petfinder.com/http://www.orecatay.com/http://www.awca.net/index.htmhttp://www.felineleukemia.org/http://www.petloss.com/http://www.meezer.com/http://thesiamesestore.com/http://tx.siameserescue.org/adopt.htmlhttp://ca.siameserescue.org/http://co.siameserescue.org/http://va.siameserescue.org/ inline: aks.jpginline: logobuttonsq.jpg
Re: Akira needs prayers......
Lisa, Sorry to hear about Akira. I hope seh's doing better. Her story inspired me, and gave me the hope for my felv+ cat. I will surely keep Akira in my thoughts/prayers. From: Terri Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Akira needs prayers.. Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 20:15:02 -0400 Healing prayers coming your way. =^..^= Terri, Salome', Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Sammi, and 5 furangels: RuthieGirl, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth and Alec =^..^= Furkid Photos! http://mysite.verizon.net/vze7sgqa/http://mysite.verizon.net/vze7sgqa/ My FeLV Site: http://pages.ivillage.com/ruthiegirl1/MyFeLVinformationSite/http://pagesivillage.com/ruthiegirl1/MyFeLVinformationSite/ My Personal Page: http://www.geocities.com/ruthiegirl1/terrispage.html?1083970447350http://www.geocities.com/ruthiegirl1/terrispage.html?1083970447350 - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 9:27 AM Subject: Akira needs prayers.. Hi everyone, well it seems like for every great thing an equally horrible one occursThe book that my stories are in came out this week...many about Akira and how she over came her sicknesses when I found her...My 23rd birthday was yesterday (cinco de Mayo), and Monday Akira decided to quit eating, Ive been force feeding her, and offering her anything I could think of...she would sniff..but not even was remotely interested other than thatSo today to the vet we went...Im home now..she is still there...45 mins away, on an IV catheter for fluids, being force fed, waiting on blood work to come backshe has the VERY first signs of fatty liver, (her urine is VERY concentrate)..but she isnt jaundiced yet (thankfully)...and her blood is very thick...which is good..she presumably by teh looks of it..isnt anemic...which means this possibly is NOT as a result of the Leukemia...but then again...as with every other damned symptom..it still could beIve never left her alone before..I am so worriedand feel so betrayed.HAPPY BIRTHDAY..your cat is trying to die ..So please say prayers, send Reikianything her way she needs all the help she can get...she is dehydrated, initiall fatty liver..and she has lost 2 lbs in about 4 days..(.she only weighed 8 to begin with) She is my angel that introduced me to rescue, cats, and unconditional loveI cant lose her.Im not ready. Lisa and the furbrats Akira, Indy, Spooky, Mona, Lancelot, Bowtie, Bennie and Anza
Akira
Thank you everyone for all your prayers, Akira is resting peacefully on my bed right now, very calm and sereneshe is dyingwe have decided to let her go on her own They got the blood results on her back Saturday..but they were incomplete...the CBC was missing...the results were so scewed and far fetched teh tech's at the lab didn't think they were right so they were waiting until Monday (today) to have a Pathologist review them. Akira's vet called them adn asked for the numbers anyways...her white cell count was 400,000! and her lymphocytes (sp) were high tooshe has cancer...so that is what caused her to quit eating...well...her liver values are 16 times normal.and she is hypothyroid (I think that is the one..it is the one cats dont usually get) she is in liver failure(fatty liver ) from not eatingthe vet said that in healthy (non FeLV+) cats the survival rate is 70% with intensive carefor just teh fatty liver alone (in the stage she was in) and by that she meant a permanent feeding tube, 8 months or more of feeding her 6-10 times a day, and fighting any infection she would get from the feeding tube.but then on top of that she has cancer..somewhere...and we would have to find and treat that as well..so ultrasounds, x rays, biopsies...to even see if the cancer is treatableplus the treatment/surgery IF it wasPLUS the Fatty liver...PLUS the FeLV.and she probally wouldn't make it anyways...not to mention the tourture of all those procedures,a nd staying at teh vets office for a least another week...I decided to bring her home.What made it so much worse is I had to work this weekend..from 7 30 am until 10 pm both Saturday adn Sunday..so I got to hardley spend any time with her until today So thank you whoever sent the number for Janet the ACI called her adn she spoke with Akira...Akira does NOT want to go to the vet..nor does she want any help...right now...she wants to go at home with us around...so so be itShe wants to live every remaining minute of her life in peace and home...Janet was complelty amazed at how powerful, beautifull, nad strong Akira's soul was. Which was comforting..but not a surprise..as many others (amature) have said the same things...Janet says she has only encountered a few other Angelic Beings in physical forms before...and Akira is one of them.. So just an update on her..and how things are going...she is calm, not in pain, and peaceful, and ready to go...she understands what is happening, and is ready for itPlease pray for her,and send all the suppportiive energy you can to herIprobally wont be on for a few days at least...but thank you to everyone who prayed for her, gave m,e info when I first found her, and was a shoulder to cry on...you are all some of the best friends Ive ever had the pleasure of knowing Lisa and the furbratsAkira, Indy, Spooky, Mona, Lancelot, Bowtie, Bennie and Anza
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Oh Lisa, I'm so sorry it has come to this for Akira. I'm very proud of you for letting her go peacefully, at home, surrounded by those she loves and who love her. We're all there with you guys, sitting peacefully and keeping you company. HUGS[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you everyone for all your prayers, Akira is resting peacefully on my bed right now, very calm and sereneshe is dyingwe have decided to let her go on her own They got the blood results on her back Saturday..but they were incomplete...the CBC was missing...the results were so scewed and far fetched teh tech's at the lab didn't think they were right so they were waiting until Monday (today) to have a Pathologist review them. Akira's vet called them adn asked for the numbers anyways...her white cell count was 400,000! and her lymphocytes (sp) were high tooshe has cancer...so that is what caused her to quit eating...well...her liver values are 16 times normal.and she is hypothyroid (I think that is the one..it is the one cats dont usually get) she is in liver failure(fatty liver ) from not eatingthe vet said that in healthy (non FeLV+) cats the survival rate is 70% with intensive carefor just teh fatty liver alone (in the stage she was in) and by that she meant a permanent feeding tube, 8 months or more of feeding her 6-10 times a day, and fighting any infection she would get from the feeding tube.but then on top of that she has cancer..somewhere...and we would have to find and treat that as well..so ultrasounds, x rays, biopsies...to even see if the cancer is treatableplus the treatment/surgery IF it wasPLUS the Fatty liver...PLUS the FeLV.and she probally wouldn't make it anyways...not to mention the tourture of all those procedures,a nd staying at teh vets office for a least another week...I decided to bring her home.What made it so much worse is I had to work this weekend..from 7 30 am until 10 pm both Saturday adn Sunday..so I got to hardley spend any time with her until today So thank you whoever sent the number for Janet the ACI called her adn she spoke with Akira...Akira does NOT want to go to the vet..nor does she want any help...right now...she wants to go at home with us around...so so be itShe wants to live every remaining minute of her life in peace and home...Janet was complelty amazed at how powerful, beautifull, nad strong Akira's soul was. Which was comforting..but not a surprise..as many others (amature) have said the same things...Janet says she has only encountered a few other Angelic Beings in physical forms before...and Akira is one of them.. So just an update on her..and how things are going...she is calm, not in pain, and peaceful, and ready to go...she understands what is happening, and is ready for itPlease pray for her,and send all the suppportiive energy you can to herIprobally wont be on for a few days at least...but thank you to everyone who prayed for her, gave m,e info when I first found her, and was a shoulder to cry on...you are all some of the best friends Ive ever had the pleasure of knowing Lisa and the furbratsAkira, Indy, Spooky, Mona, Lancelot, Bowtie, Bennie and AnzaBarb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito"My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile."- Anonymous Yahoo! Mail Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour
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Title: Message Lisa, I am so sorry that Akira is leaving you. I think your decision, to let her leave on her own terms,was the most compassionate and wisest one. Just be with her, comfort her and let her know how much you care. Joan -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 1:56 PMTo: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Akira Thank you everyone for all your prayers, Akira is resting peacefully on my bed right now, very calm and sereneshe is dyingwe have decided to let her go on her own They got the blood results on her back Saturday..but they were incomplete...the CBC was missing...the results were so scewed and far fetched teh tech's at the lab didn't think they were right so they were waiting until Monday (today) to have a Pathologist review them. Akira's vet called them adn asked for the numbers anyways...her white cell count was 400,000! and her lymphocytes (sp) were high tooshe has cancer...so that is what caused her to quit eating...well...her liver values are 16 times normal.and she is hypothyroid (I think that is the one..it is the one cats dont usually get) she is in liver failure(fatty liver ) from not eatingthe vet said that in healthy (non FeLV+) cats the survival rate is 70% with intensive carefor just teh fatty liver alone (in the stage she was in) and by that she meant a permanent feeding tube, 8 months or more of feeding her 6-10 times a day, and fighting any infection she would get from the feeding tube.but then on top of that she has cancer..somewhere...and we would have to find and treat that as well..so ultrasounds, x rays, biopsies...to even see if the cancer is treatableplus the treatment/surgery IF it wasPLUS the Fatty liver...PLUS the FeLV.and she probally wouldn't make it anyways...not to mention the tourture of all those procedures,a nd staying at teh vets office for a least another week...I decided to bring her home.What made it so much worse is I had to work this weekend..from 7 30 am until 10 pm both Saturday adn Sunday..so I got to hardley spend any time with her until today So thank you whoever sent the number for Janet the ACI called her adn she spoke with Akira...Akira does NOT want to go to the vet..nor does she want any help...right now...she wants to go at home with us around...so so be itShe wants to live every remaining minute of her life in peace and home...Janet was complelty amazed at how powerful, beautifull, nad strong Akira's soul was. Which was comforting..but not a surprise..as many others (amature) have said the same things...Janet says she has only encountered a few other Angelic Beings in physical forms before...and Akira is one of them.. So just an update on her..and how things are going...she is calm, not in pain, and peaceful, and ready to go...she understands what is happening, and is ready for itPlease pray for her,and send all the suppportiive energy you can to herIprobally wont be on for a few days at least...but thank you to everyone who prayed for her, gave m,e info when I first found her, and was a shoulder to cry on...you are all some of the best friends Ive ever had the pleasure of knowing Lisa and the furbratsAkira, Indy, Spooky, Mona, Lancelot, Bowtie, Bennie and Anza
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Lisa, I am sorry you and Akira are going through this tough time. It is always so hard and there is nothing I can say or do to make it any easier. Please know that we care for you and pray forAkira's peaceful passage to the Rainbow Bridge. You gave her much love and she has given you many happy memories. Hugs, Del - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 12:55 PM Subject: Akira Thank you everyone for all your prayers, Akira is resting peacefully on my bed right now, very calm and sereneshe is dyingwe have decided to let her go on her own They got the blood results on her back Saturday..but they were incomplete...the CBC was missing...the results were so scewed and far fetched teh tech's at the lab didn't think they were right so they were waiting until Monday (today) to have a Pathologist review them. Akira's vet called them adn asked for the numbers anyways...her white cell count was 400,000! and her lymphocytes (sp) were high tooshe has cancer...so that is what caused her to quit eating...well...her liver values are 16 times normal.and she is hypothyroid (I think that is the one..it is the one cats dont usually get) she is in liver failure(fatty liver ) from not eatingthe vet said that in healthy (non FeLV+) cats the survival rate is 70% with intensive carefor just teh fatty liver alone (in the stage she was in) and by that she meant a permanent feeding tube, 8 months or more of feeding her 6-10 times a day, and fighting any infection she would get from the feeding tube.but then on top of that she has cancer..somewhere...and we would have to find and treat that as well..so ultrasounds, x rays, biopsies...to even see if the cancer is treatableplus the treatment/surgery IF it wasPLUS the Fatty liver...PLUS the FeLV.and she probally wouldn't make it anyways...not to mention the tourture of all those procedures,a nd staying at teh vets office for a least another week...I decided to bring her home.What made it so much worse is I had to work this weekend..from 7 30 am until 10 pm both Saturday adn Sunday..so I got to hardley spend any time with her until today So thank you whoever sent the number for Janet the ACI called her adn she spoke with Akira...Akira does NOT want to go to the vet..nor does she want any help...right now...she wants to go at home with us around...so so be itShe wants to live every remaining minute of her life in peace and home...Janet was complelty amazed at how powerful, beautifull, nad strong Akira's soul was. Which was comforting..but not a surprise..as many others (amature) have said the same things...Janet says she has only encountered a few other Angelic Beings in physical forms before...and Akira is one of them.. So just an update on her..and how things are going...she is calm, not in pain, and peaceful, and ready to go...she understands what is happening, and is ready for itPlease pray for her,and send all the suppportiive energy you can to herIprobally wont be on for a few days at least...but thank you to everyone who prayed for her, gave m,e info when I first found her, and was a shoulder to cry on...you are all some of the best friends Ive ever had the pleasure of knowing Lisa and the furbratsAkira, Indy, Spooky, Mona, Lancelot, Bowtie, Bennie and Anza
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In a message dated 5/9/2005 12:00:31 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Lisa,Sorry to hear about Akira. I hope seh's doing better. Her story inspired me, and gave me the hope for my felv+ cat. I will surely keep Akira in my thoughts/prayers. Thank you so much for that..I will tell her...Im sure she will be happy to hear it...That is what she was here for (per herself)..to teach and inspireI am so happy to hear that she helped you (her story) with your kittythat means so much...She is resting peacefully right now...but I dont think it will be longall the light and love helps the passingit means so much to her..thank you everyone!!! Lisa and the furbratsAkira, Indy, Spooky, Mona, Lancelot, Bowtie, Bennie and Anza
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Oh Lisa, I'm so sorry to hear it's Akira's time to cross. What a strong and brave soul she is, and you too. I'm sobbing as I write this. We are all standing vigil with you. I'm sending you as much strength, courage and calm as I can muster. I'm praying for a peaceful passing for your darling girl. Travel light and bright on your journey sweet Akira. Much love to you and your family, Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you everyone for all your prayers, Akira is resting peacefully on my bed right now, very calm and sereneshe is dyingwe have decided to let her go on her own They got the blood results on her back Saturday..but they were incomplete...the CBC was missing...the results were so scewed and far fetched teh tech's at the lab didn't think they were right so they were waiting until Monday (today) to have a Pathologist review them. Akira's vet called them adn asked for the numbers anyways...her white cell count was 400,000! and her lymphocytes (sp) were high tooshe has cancer...so that is what caused her to quit eating...well...her liver values are 16 times normal.and she is hypothyroid (I think that is the one..it is the one cats dont usually get) she is in liver failure(fatty liver ) from not eatingthe vet said that in healthy (non FeLV+) cats the survival rate is 70% with intensive carefor just teh fatty liver alone (in the stage she was in) and by that she meant a permanent feeding tube, 8 months or more of feeding her 6-10 times a day, and fighting any infection she would get from the feeding tube.but then on top of that she has cancer..somewhere...and we would have to find and treat that as well..so ultrasounds, x rays, biopsies...to even see if the cancer is treatableplus the treatment/surgery IF it wasPLUS the Fatty liver...PLUS the FeLV.and she probally wouldn't make it anyways...not to mention the tourture of all those procedures,a nd staying at teh vets office for a least another week...I decided to bring her home.What made it so much worse is I had to work this weekend..from 7 30 am until 10 pm both Saturday adn Sunday..so I got to hardley spend any time with her until today So thank you whoever sent the number for Janet the ACI called her adn she spoke with Akira...Akira does NOT want to go to the vet..nor does she want any help...right now...she wants to go at home with us around...so so be itShe wants to live every remaining minute of her life in peace and home...Janet was complelty amazed at how powerful, beautifull, nad strong Akira's soul was. Which was comforting..but not a surprise..as many others (amature) have said the same things...Janet says she has only encountered a few other Angelic Beings in physical forms before...and Akira is one of them.. So just an update on her..and how things are going...she is calm, not in pain, and peaceful, and ready to go...she understands what is happening, and is ready for itPlease pray for her,and send all the suppportiive energy you can to herIprobally wont be on for a few days at least...but thank you to everyone who prayed for her, gave m,e info when I first found her, and was a shoulder to cry on...you are all some of the best friends Ive ever had the pleasure of knowing Lisa and the furbrats Akira, Indy, Spooky, Mona, Lancelot, Bowtie, Bennie and Anza
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Lisa My thoughts are with you. Carla
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Hi, I am the one who emailed you the number of AC, Janet. I am glad that you had a chance to speak with Akira via Janet And I am praying every single minute for Akiras peace and safety in your arm that you and Akira can and will spend for the rest of all the time you will have together with no pain, but just lots of love and peace --- Hugs and love Hideyo From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 11:56 AM To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Akira Thank you everyone for all your prayers, Akira is resting peacefully on my bed right now, very calm and sereneshe is dyingwe have decided to let her go on her own They got the blood results on her back Saturday..but they were incomplete...the CBC was missing...the results were so scewed and far fetched teh tech's at the lab didn't think they were right so they were waiting until Monday (today) to have a Pathologist review them. Akira's vet called them adn asked for the numbers anyways...her white cell count was 400,000! and her lymphocytes (sp) were high tooshe has cancer...so that is what caused her to quit eating...well...her liver values are 16 times normal.and she is hypothyroid (I think that is the one..it is the one cats dont usually get) she is in liver failure(fatty liver ) from not eatingthe vet said that in healthy (non FeLV+) cats the survival rate is 70% with intensive carefor just teh fatty liver alone (in the stage she was in) and by that she meant a permanent feeding tube, 8 months or more of feeding her 6-10 times a day, and fighting any infection she would get from the feeding tube.but then on top of that she has cancer..somewhere...and we would have to find and treat that as well..so ultrasounds, x rays, biopsies...to even see if the cancer is treatableplus the treatment/surgery IF it wasPLUS the Fatty liver...PLUS the FeLV.and she probally wouldn't make it anyways...not to mention the tourture of all those procedures,a nd staying at teh vets office for a least another week...I decided to bring her home.What made it so much worse is I had to work this weekend..from 7 30 am until 10 pm both Saturday adn Sunday..so I got to hardley spend any time with her until today So thank you whoever sent the number for Janet the ACI called her adn she spoke with Akira...Akira does NOT want to go to the vet..nor does she want any help...right now...she wants to go at home with us around...so so be itShe wants to live every remaining minute of her life in peace and home...Janet was complelty amazed at how powerful, beautifull, nad strong Akira's soul was. Which was comforting..but not a surprise..as many others (amature) have said the same things...Janet says she has only encountered a few other Angelic Beings in physical forms before...and Akira is one of them.. So just an update on her..and how things are going...she is calm, not in pain, and peaceful, and ready to go...she understands what is happening, and is ready for itPlease pray for her,and send all the suppportiive energy you can to herIprobally wont be on for a few days at least...but thank you to everyone who prayed for her, gave m,e info when I first found her, and was a shoulder to cry on...you are all some of the best friends Ive ever had the pleasure of knowing Lisa and the furbrats Akira, Indy, Spooky, Mona, Lancelot, Bowtie, Bennie and Anza
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GLOW that the next stage in her journey be all peaceful, and to heal your heart---GLOW (whether you call it prayer, or love, or light) always works just the way it is supposed to; just not always the way we humans would like it to. she is blessed to have such a respectful, caring companion as you clearly are... -- MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
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Lisa, You are so strong to go through this and so inspiring to me and I am sure others, Akira is very lucky to have found you, I am weeping for your impending loss, but happy and relived that Akira understands and is ready. I am glad you will be with her or at least close when it happens. Cherie[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you everyone for all your prayers, Akira is resting peacefully on my bed right now, very calm and sereneshe is dyingwe have decided to let her go on her own They got the blood results on her back Saturday..but they were incomplete...the CBC was missing...the results were so scewed and far fetched teh tech's at the lab didn't think they were right so they were waiting until Monday (today) to have a Pathologist review them. Akira's vet called them adn asked for the numbers anyways...her white cell count was 400,000! and her lymphocytes (sp) were high tooshe has cancer...so that is what caused her to quit eating...well...her liver values are 16 times normal.and she is hypothyroid (I think that is the one..it is the one cats dont usually get) she is in liver failure(fatty liver ) from not eatingthe vet said that in healthy (non FeLV+) cats the survival rate is 70% with intensive carefor just teh fatty liver alone (in the stage she was in) and by that she meant a permanent feeding tube, 8 months or more of feeding her 6-10 times a day, and fighting any infection she would get from the feeding tube.but then on top of that she has cancer..somewhere...and we would have to find and treat that as well..so ultrasounds, x rays, biopsies...to even see if the cancer is treatableplus the treatment/surgery IF it wasPLUS the Fatty liver...PLUS the FeLV.and she probally wouldn't make it anyways...not to mention the tourture of all those procedures,a nd staying at teh vets office for a least another week...I decided to bring her home.What made it so much worse is I had to work this weekend..from 7 30 am until 10 pm both Saturday adn Sunday..so I got to hardley spend any time with her until today So thank you whoever sent the number for Janet the ACI called her adn she spoke with Akira...Akira does NOT want to go to the vet..nor does she want any help...right now...she wants to go at home with us around...so so be itShe wants to live every remaining minute of her life in peace and home...Janet was complelty amazed at how powerful, beautifull, nad strong Akira's soul was. Which was comforting..but not a surprise..as many others (amature) have said the same things...Janet says she has only encountered a few other Angelic Beings in physical forms before...and Akira is one of them.. So just an update on her..and how things are going...she is calm, not in pain, and peaceful, and ready to go...she understands what is happening, and is ready for itPlease pray for her,and send all the suppportiive energy you can to herIprobally wont be on for a few days at least...but thank you to everyone who prayed for her, gave m,e info when I first found her, and was a shoulder to cry on...you are all some of the best friends Ive ever had the pleasure of knowing Lisa and the furbratsAkira, Indy, Spooky, Mona, Lancelot, Bowtie, Bennie and AnzaHave a purrfect day Cherie
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Dear Lisa, My thoughts and prayers are with you and Akira. I believe that allowing her to be at home with you at this time is one of the greatest gifts of love and unselfishness. With Love, Patti
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May her passing be comfortable and peaceful. Sending peaceful comforting vibes her way. =^..^= Terri, Salome', Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Sammi, and 5 furangels: RuthieGirl, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth and Alec =^..^= Furkid Photos! http://mysite.verizon.net/vze7sgqa/My FeLV Site: http://pages.ivillage.com/ruthiegirl1/MyFeLVinformationSite/My Personal Page: http://www.geocities.com/ruthiegirl1/terrispage.html?1083970447350 - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 1:55 PM Subject: Akira Thank you everyone for all your prayers, Akira is resting peacefully on my bed right now, very calm and sereneshe is dyingwe have decided to let her go on her own They got the blood results on her back Saturday..but they were incomplete...the CBC was missing...the results were so scewed and far fetched teh tech's at the lab didn't think they were right so they were waiting until Monday (today) to have a Pathologist review them. Akira's vet called them adn asked for the numbers anyways...her white cell count was 400,000! and her lymphocytes (sp) were high tooshe has cancer...so that is what caused her to quit eating...well...her liver values are 16 times normal.and she is hypothyroid (I think that is the one..it is the one cats dont usually get) she is in liver failure(fatty liver ) from not eatingthe vet said that in healthy (non FeLV+) cats the survival rate is 70% with intensive carefor just teh fatty liver alone (in the stage she was in) and by that she meant a permanent feeding tube, 8 months or more of feeding her 6-10 times a day, and fighting any infection she would get from the feeding tube.but then on top of that she has cancer..somewhere...and we would have to find and treat that as well..so ultrasounds, x rays, biopsies...to even see if the cancer is treatableplus the treatment/surgery IF it wasPLUS the Fatty liver...PLUS the FeLV.and she probally wouldn't make it anyways...not to mention the tourture of all those procedures,a nd staying at teh vets office for a least another week...I decided to bring her home.What made it so much worse is I had to work this weekend..from 7 30 am until 10 pm both Saturday adn Sunday..so I got to hardley spend any time with her until today So thank you whoever sent the number for Janet the ACI called her adn she spoke with Akira...Akira does NOT want to go to the vet..nor does she want any help...right now...she wants to go at home with us around...so so be itShe wants to live every remaining minute of her life in peace and home...Janet was complelty amazed at how powerful, beautifull, nad strong Akira's soul was. Which was comforting..but not a surprise..as many others (amature) have said the same things...Janet says she has only encountered a few other Angelic Beings in physical forms before...and Akira is one of them.. So just an update on her..and how things are going...she is calm, not in pain, and peaceful, and ready to go...she understands what is happening, and is ready for itPlease pray for her,and send all the suppportiive energy you can to herIprobally wont be on for a few days at least...but thank you to everyone who prayed for her, gave m,e info when I first found her, and was a shoulder to cry on...you are all some of the best friends Ive ever had the pleasure of knowing Lisa and the furbratsAkira, Indy, Spooky, Mona, Lancelot, Bowtie, Bennie and Anza
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Lisa, God bless you and Akira and all of your household. May these last few hours, days be a gift and a comfort. Be at peace, now, and until you are in each other's arms again. This is afterall really just the begining. (((hugs)))Terri Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: May her passing be comfortable and peaceful. Sending peaceful comforting vibes her way. =^..^= Terri, Salome', Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Sammi, and 5 furangels: RuthieGirl, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth and Alec =^..^= Furkid Photos! http://mysite.verizon.net/vze7sgqa/My FeLV Site: http://pages.ivillage.com/ruthiegirl1/MyFeLVinformationSite/My Personal Page: http://www.geocities.com/ruthiegirl1/terrispage.html?1083970447350 - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 1:55 PM Subject: Akira Thank you everyone for all your prayers, Akira is resting peacefully on my bed right now, very calm and sereneshe is dyingwe have decided to let her go on her own They got the blood results on her back Saturday..but they were incomplete...the CBC was missing...the results were so scewed and far fetched teh tech's at the lab didn't think they were right so they were waiting until Monday (today) to have a Pathologist review them. Akira's vet called them adn asked for the numbers anyways...her white cell count was 400,000! and her lymphocytes (sp) were high tooshe has cancer...so that is what caused her to quit eating...well...her liver values are 16 times normal.and she is hypothyroid (I think that is the one..it is the one cats dont usually get) she is in liver failure(fatty liver ) from not eatingthe vet said that in healthy (non FeLV+) cats the survival rate is 70% with intensive carefor just teh fatty liver alone (in the stage she was in) and by that she meant a permanent feeding tube, 8 months or more of feeding her 6-10 times a day, and fighting any infection she would get from the feeding tube.but then on top of that she has cancer..somewhere...and we would have to find and treat that as well..so ultrasounds, x rays, biopsies...to even see if the cancer is treatableplus the treatment/surgery IF it wasPLUS the Fatty liver...PLUS the FeLV.and she probally wouldn't make it anyways...not to mention the tourture of all those procedures,a nd staying at teh vets office for a least another week...I decided to bring her home.What made it so much worse is I had to work this weekend..from 7 30 am until 10 pm both Saturday adn Sunday..so I got to hardley spend any time with her until today So thank you whoever sent the number for Janet the ACI called her adn she spoke with Akira...Akira does NOT want to go to the vet..nor does she want any help...right now...she wants to go at home with us around...so so be itShe wants to live every remaining minute of her life in peace and home...Janet was complelty amazed at how powerful, beautifull, nad strong Akira's soul was. Which was comforting..but not a surprise..as many others (amature) have said the same things...Janet says she has only encountered a few other Angelic Beings in physical forms before...and Akira is one of them.. So just an update on her..and how things are going...she is calm, not in pain, and peaceful, and ready to go...she understands what is happening, and is ready for itPlease pray for her,and send all the suppportiive energy you can to herIprobally wont be on for a few days at least...but thank you to everyone who prayed for her, gave m,e info when I first found her, and was a shoulder to cry on...you are all some of the best friends Ive ever had the pleasure of knowing Lisa and the furbratsAkira, Indy, Spooky, Mona, Lancelot, Bowtie, Bennie and Anza Discover Yahoo! Find restaurants, movies, travel & more fun for the weekend. Check it out!
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Lisa, I'm so sorry to hear your news. This is when I hate this disease the most. When it just sneaks up on you and is out of control before you have any idea what's happened! Akira is already an Angel. She brought you to our group, and led you to be a voice for cats with leukemia. I'm sending prayers for the two of you to enjoy the time you have together, and that Akira will have a peaceful passing when she's ready. tonya[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you everyone for all your prayers, Akira is resting peacefully on my bed right now, very calm and sereneshe is dyingwe have decided to let her go on her own They got the blood results on her back Saturday..but they were incomplete...the CBC was missing...the results were so scewed and far fetched teh tech's at the lab didn't think they were right so they were waiting until Monday (today) to have a Pathologist review them. Akira's vet called them adn asked for the numbers anyways...her white cell count was 400,000! and her lymphocytes (sp) were high tooshe has cancer...so that is what caused her to quit eating...well...her liver values are 16 times normal.and she is hypothyroid (I think that is the one..it is the one cats dont usually get) she is in liver failure(fatty liver ) from not eatingthe vet said that in healthy (non FeLV+) cats the survival rate is 70% with intensive carefor just teh fatty liver alone (in the stage she was in) and by that she meant a permanent feeding tube, 8 months or more of feeding her 6-10 times a day, and fighting any infection she would get from the feeding tube.but then on top of that she has cancer..somewhere...and we would have to find and treat that as well..so ultrasounds, x rays, biopsies...to even see if the cancer is treatableplus the treatment/surgery IF it wasPLUS the Fatty liver...PLUS the FeLV.and she probally wouldn't make it anyways...not to mention the tourture of all those procedures,a nd staying at teh vets office for a least another week...I decided to bring her home.What made it so much worse is I had to work this weekend..from 7 30 am until 10 pm both Saturday adn Sunday..so I got to hardley spend any time with her until today So thank you whoever sent the number for Janet the ACI called her adn she spoke with Akira...Akira does NOT want to go to the vet..nor does she want any help...right now...she wants to go at home with us around...so so be itShe wants to live every remaining minute of her life in peace and home...Janet was complelty amazed at how powerful, beautifull, nad strong Akira's soul was. Which was comforting..but not a surprise..as many others (amature) have said the same things...Janet says she has only encountered a few other Angelic Beings in physical forms before...and Akira is one of them.. So just an update on her..and how things are going...she is calm, not in pain, and peaceful, and ready to go...she understands what is happening, and is ready for itPlease pray for her,and send all the suppportiive energy you can to herIprobally wont be on for a few days at least...but thank you to everyone who prayed for her, gave m,e info when I first found her, and was a shoulder to cry on...you are all some of the best friends Ive ever had the pleasure of knowing Lisa and the furbratsAkira, Indy, Spooky, Mona, Lancelot, Bowtie, Bennie and Anza
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Peace to Akira, and my deepest sympathy for you as you help her find her way past this life. In Sympathy, Jenn No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.6 - Release Date: 5/6/2005
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Lisa, I logged on hoping to see some news about Akira. What's happening with her? Nina
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Lisa: Our prayers are with you and Akira. I will add her to our candle lighting tonight. /mari On 5/6/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everyone, well it seems like for every great thing an equally horrible one occursThe book that my stories are in came out this week...many about Akira and how she over came her sicknesses when I found her...My 23rd birthday was yesterday (cinco de Mayo), and Monday Akira decided to quit eating, Ive been force feeding her, and offering her anything I could think of...she would sniff..but not even was remotely interested other than thatSo today to the vet we went...Im home now..she is still there...45 mins away, on an IV catheter for fluids, being force fed, waiting on blood work to come backshe has the VERY first signs of fatty liver, (her urine is VERY concentrate)..but she isnt jaundiced yet (thankfully)...and her blood is very thick...which is good..she presumably by teh looks of it..isnt anemic...which means this possibly is NOT as a result of the Leukemia...but then again...as with every other damned symptom..it still could beIve never left her alone before..I am so worriedand feel so betrayed.HAPPY BIRTHDAY..your cat is trying to die ..So please say prayers, send Reikianything her way she needs all the help she can get...she is dehydrated, initiall fatty liver..and she has lost 2 lbs in about 4 days..(.she only weighed 8 to begin with) She is my angel that introduced me to rescue, cats, and unconditional loveI cant lose her.Im not ready. Lisa and the furbratsAkira, Indy, Spooky, Mona, Lancelot, Bowtie, Bennie and Anza
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We are all praying,and sending all good thoughts!!! Sandy, Shades, Tribyl and Spike plus Angel Houdini From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Akira needs prayers.. Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 09:27:50 EDT Hi everyone, well it seems like for every great thing an equally horrible one occursThe book that my stories are in came out this week...many about Akira and how she over came her sicknesses when I found her...My 23rd birthday was yesterday (cinco de Mayo), and Monday Akira decided to quit eating, Ive been force feeding her, and offering her anything I could think of...she would sniff..but not even was remotely interested other than thatSo today to the vet we went...Im home now..she is still there...45 mins away, on an IV catheter for fluids, being force fed, waiting on blood work to come backshe has the VERY first signs of fatty liver, (her urine is VERY concentrate)..but she isnt jaundiced yet (thankfully)...and her blood is very thick...which is good..she presumably by teh looks of it..isnt anemic...which means this possibly is NOT as a result of the Leukemia...but then again...as with every other damned symptom..it still could beIve never left her alone before..I am so worriedand feel so betrayed.HAPPY BIRTHDAY..your cat is trying to die ..So please say prayers, send Reikianything her way she needs all the help she can get...she is dehydrated, initiall fatty liver..and she has lost 2 lbs in about 4 days..(.she only weighed 8 to begin with) She is my angel that introduced me to rescue, cats, and unconditional loveI cant lose her.Im not ready. Lisa and the furbrats Akira, Indy, Spooky, Mona, Lancelot, Bowtie, Bennie and Anza Sandy _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
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Oh Lisa, I'm so sorry about Akira! I remember when you joined the group because of her and wanting information about this horrible disease. I commend you for what you have done to make it an awareness situation where you live to let others know. Just remember you have done so much for her and she knows it. She gave you the love and you did the same. Once again I'm so sorry... :( I pray and hope she gets well, if not she will let you know. I know how hard it is for you if something was to happen to her. It may not seem like it but that makes the fight harder when we do lose our beloved furbabies. I know from my experience I have done so much making people aware of this horrible disease in my community. I haven't stopped either. I know a few have been saved by euthanization. I can tell you if it hadn't been for "Taz" I wouldn't be where I'm at today in pursuing rescues from all over the statesand helpingmy community. We are never ready to lose them even though we know the time will come. That's what makes them special from other kitties. You will be hurt, bitter, andangry but turn it into positive energy don't let the negative takeover. You both are in my thoughts and prayers. I will light a candle for her in hopes that she will recover. If you need someone to talk to please feel free to contact me. I'm here for you along with the others in this group to help ease your hurt. Bless you In a message dated 5/6/2005 6:28:28 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi everyone, well it seems like for every great thing an equally horrible one occursThe book that my stories are in came out this week...many about Akira and how she over came her sicknesses when I found her...My 23rd birthday was yesterday (cinco de Mayo), and Monday Akira decided to quit eating, Ive been force feeding her, and offering her anything I could think of...she would sniff..but not even was remotely interested other than thatSo today to the vet we went...Im home now..she is still there...45 mins away, on an IV catheter for fluids, being force fed, waiting on blood work to come backshe has the VERY first signs of "fatty liver", (her urine is VERY concentrate)..but she isnt jaundiced yet (thankfully)...and her blood is very thick...which is good..she presumably by teh looks of it..isnt anemic...which means this possibly is NOT as a result of the Leukemia...but then again...as with every other damned symptom..it still could beIve never left her alone before..I am so worriedand feel so betrayed."HAPPY BIRTHDAY..your cat is trying to die" ..So please say prayers, send Reikianything her way she needs all the help she can get...she is dehydrated, initiall fatty liver..and she has lost 2 lbs in about 4 days..(.she only weighed 8 to begin with) She is my angel that introduced me to rescue, cats, and unconditional loveI cant lose her.Im not ready. Lisa and the furbratsAkira, Indy, Spooky, Mona, Lancelot, Bowtie, Bennie and Anza Terrie MohrCheck site for available Siameses for adoption!http://www.iGive.com/TAZZYShttps://www.paypal.com/TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTShttp://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescuehttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.htmlhttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.htmlTAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTSSIAMESE COLLIE RESCUEOwner/DriverPetfinder.comAdopt a Homeless Pet!http://www.petfinder.com/http://www.orecatay.com/http://www.awca.net/index.htmhttp://www.felineleukemia.org/http://www.petloss.com/http://www.meezer.com/http://thesiamesestore.com/http://tx.siameserescue.org/adopt.htmlhttp://ca.siameserescue.org/http://co.siameserescue.org/http://va.siameserescue.org/ inline: aks.jpginline: logobuttonsq.jpg
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Lisa Healing vibes thoughts to Akira. Carla Date sent: Fri, 6 May 2005 08:39:26 -0500 From: Mari Kolbe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Copies to: Subject:Re: Akira needs prayers.. Send reply to: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Lisa: Our prayers are with you and Akira. I will add her to our candle lighting tonight. /mari On 5/6/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everyone, well it seems like for every great thing an equally horrible one occursThe book that my stories are in came out this week...many about Akira and how she over came her sicknesses when I found her...My 23rd birthday was yesterday (cinco de Mayo), and Monday Akira decided to quit eating, Ive been force feeding her, and offering her anything I could think of...she would sniff..but not even was remotely interested other than thatSo today to the vet we went...Im home now..she is still there...45 mins away, on an IV catheter for fluids, being force fed, waiting on blood work to come backshe has the VERY first signs of fatty liver, (her urine is VERY concentrate)..but she isnt jaundiced yet (thankfully)...and her blood is very thick...which is good..she presumably by teh looks of it..isnt anemic...which means this possibly is NOT as a result of the Leukemia...but then again...as with every other damned symptom..it still could beIve never left her alone before..I am so worriedand feel so betrayed.HAPPY BIRTHDAY..your cat is trying to die ..So please say prayers, send Reikianything her way she needs all the help she can get...she is dehydrated, initiall fatty liver..and she has lost 2 lbs in about 4 days..(.she only weighed 8 to begin with) She is my angel that introduced me to rescue, cats, and unconditional loveI cant lose her.Im not ready. Lisa and the furbrats Akira, Indy, Spooky, Mona, Lancelot, Bowtie, Bennie and Anza
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In a message dated 5/6/2005 9:45:08 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Lisa:Our prayers are with you and Akira. I will add her to our candle lighting tonight./mari Thank you so much Mari Lisa and the furbratsAkira, Indy, Spooky, Mona, Lancelot, Bowtie, Bennie and Anza
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Title: Message Lisa, Me and my crew are pulling for Akira as well. Joan -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 10:15 AMTo: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re Akira need prayers In a message dated 5/6/2005 9:45:08 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Lisa:Our prayers are with you and Akira. I will add her to our candle lighting tonight./mari Thank you so much Mari Lisa and the furbratsAkira, Indy, Spooky, Mona, Lancelot, Bowtie, Bennie and Anza
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Hang in there Lisa! We are all pulling for your sweet Akira![EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everyone, well it seems like for every great thing an equally horrible one occursThe book that my stories are in came out this week...many about Akira and how she over came her sicknesses when I found her...My 23rd birthday was yesterday (cinco de Mayo), and Monday Akira decided to quit eating, Ive been force feeding her, and offering her anything I could think of...she would sniff..but not even was remotely interested other than thatSo today to the vet we went...Im home now..she is still there...45 mins away, on an IV catheter for fluids, being force fed, waiting on blood work to come backshe has the VERY first signs of "fatty liver", (her urine is VERY concentrate)..but she isnt jaundiced yet (thankfully)...and her blood is very thick...which is good..she presumably by teh looks of it..isnt anemic...which means this possibly is NOT as a result of the Leukemia...but then again...as with every other damned symptom..it still could beIve never left her alone before..I am so worriedand feel so betrayed."HAPPY BIRTHDAY..your cat is trying to die" ..So please say prayers, send Reikianything her way she needs all the help she can get...she is dehydrated, initiall fatty liver..and she has lost 2 lbs in about 4 days..(.she only weighed 8 to begin with) She is my angel that introduced me to rescue, cats, and unconditional loveI cant lose her.Im not ready. Lisa and the furbratsAkira, Indy, Spooky, Mona, Lancelot, Bowtie, Bennie and AnzaBarb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito"My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile."- Anonymous Discover Yahoo! Use Yahoo! to plan a weekend, have fun online & more. Check it out!
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I am so sorry your Akira is not doing well. My cats never let the vet techs feed them if they feeling even a little bit poorly. are you allowed to go in and visit? Just remember to breathe. I know -we all know--how cruel and unfair this virus can be---our furfriends can be doing fine and then we blink and they are sick. pulling for Akira to perk up. Remember she loves you. Barbara
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I'm pulling for you here too. Saying a prayer for you guys. -Kyle - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 9:27 AM Subject: Akira needs prayers.. Hi everyone, well it seems like for every great thing an equally horrible one occursThe book that my stories are in came out this week...many about Akira and how she over came her sicknesses when I found her...My 23rd birthday was yesterday (cinco de Mayo), and Monday Akira decided to quit eating, Ive been force feeding her, and offering her anything I could think of...she would sniff..but not even was remotely interested other than thatSo today to the vet we went...Im home now..she is still there...45 mins away, on an IV catheter for fluids, being force fed, waiting on blood work to come backshe has the VERY first signs of "fatty liver", (her urine is VERY concentrate)..but she isnt jaundiced yet (thankfully)...and her blood is very thick...which is good..she presumably by teh looks of it..isnt anemic...which means this possibly is NOT as a result of the Leukemia...but then again...as with every other damned symptom..it still could beIve never left her alone before..I am so worriedand feel so betrayed."HAPPY BIRTHDAY..your cat is trying to die" ..So please say prayers, send Reikianything her way she needs all the help she can get...she is dehydrated, initiall fatty liver..and she has lost 2 lbs in about 4 days..(.she only weighed 8 to begin with) She is my angel that introduced me to rescue, cats, and unconditional loveI cant lose her.Im not ready. Lisa and the furbratsAkira, Indy, Spooky, Mona, Lancelot, Bowtie, Bennie and Anza
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I, too, am praying for you and Akira. Hang in there.Belinda Sauro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Lisa,I'm sorry to hear Akira is not feeling well. If she does need to get a feeding tube, just wanted you to know I have experience with this from when my Buddie had cancer last year. If it is going to be for a few weeks or months don't let them do a nasel tube, these are very uncomfortable for kitty and only should be used if for a day or two. If Akira is baseline jaundice and in the early stages of liver hepititis and etube is the recommended way to go. It is a very simple procedure and only takes about 15 to 20 minutes to insert. Just make sure your vet knows that it has to be placed precisely and an X-ray should be taken after to verify it is placed correctly. It should not enter the stomach or be too high. I believe between the 6 and 8 rib is where it needs to be.Lots of prayers for Akira, I hope she starts eating on her own, but if not, don't delay get the tube and I'm here if you need any help. I still belong to the assisted feeding group also and you can find there list here if you think you may be interested:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Feline-Assisted-Feeding/Here is a site on the different tubes also:Esophagostomy (this is the e-tube)http://www.vin.com/VINDBPub/SearchPB/Proceedings/PR05000/PR00409.htmCome on Akira start eating for Mom!!-- BelindaHappiness is being owned by cats ...Be-Mi-Kitties ...http://www.bemikitties.comPost Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittenshttp://adopt.bemikitties.comFeLV Candle Light Servicehttp://www.bemikitties.com/clsHostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting web design)http://HostDesign4U.com---BMK Designs (non-profit web sites)http://bmk.bemikitties.com
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Lisa, I am going through something similar, though not yet as advanced, here with Ginger and was about to write about it. I am sending prayers with the little energy I have left. Michelle
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Healing prayers coming your way. =^..^= Terri, Salome', Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Sammi, and 5 furangels: RuthieGirl, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth and Alec =^..^= Furkid Photos! http://mysite.verizon.net/vze7sgqa/My FeLV Site: http://pages.ivillage.com/ruthiegirl1/MyFeLVinformationSite/My Personal Page: http://www.geocities.com/ruthiegirl1/terrispage.html?1083970447350 - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 9:27 AM Subject: Akira needs prayers.. Hi everyone, well it seems like for every great thing an equally horrible one occursThe book that my stories are in came out this week...many about Akira and how she over came her sicknesses when I found her...My 23rd birthday was yesterday (cinco de Mayo), and Monday Akira decided to quit eating, Ive been force feeding her, and offering her anything I could think of...she would sniff..but not even was remotely interested other than thatSo today to the vet we went...Im home now..she is still there...45 mins away, on an IV catheter for fluids, being force fed, waiting on blood work to come backshe has the VERY first signs of "fatty liver", (her urine is VERY concentrate)..but she isnt jaundiced yet (thankfully)...and her blood is very thick...which is good..she presumably by teh looks of it..isnt anemic...which means this possibly is NOT as a result of the Leukemia...but then again...as with every other damned symptom..it still could beIve never left her alone before..I am so worriedand feel so betrayed."HAPPY BIRTHDAY..your cat is trying to die" ..So please say prayers, send Reikianything her way she needs all the help she can get...she is dehydrated, initiall fatty liver..and she has lost 2 lbs in about 4 days..(.she only weighed 8 to begin with) She is my angel that introduced me to rescue, cats, and unconditional loveI cant lose her.Im not ready. Lisa and the furbratsAkira, Indy, Spooky, Mona, Lancelot, Bowtie, Bennie and Anza
