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excellent point, nina, as usual! also, gloria, i would talk to the vet, too--it might be good to find out exactly what DID happen: it's possible the new mom didn't really give you the xomplete story. just as possible it's a bad vet.. On 12/14/05, Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe Chrissy has saved more than one life with the sacrifice of her own. :( N [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been seriously thinking about getting microchips. Don't think anyone else in our rescue group is that interested, but maybe I'll bring the subject up again. Those are all good points - I may do that. The vet is maybe 15 miles away, and may not be aware of our cat rescue, so I do want to make him aware of that too, and our policies and our contract with our adopters (we always take our cats back if needed). Gloria At 05:50 PM 12/14/2005, you wrote: I don't know, I think I might talk to her about not being ready to take on the emotional hazards that come with the responsibility of holding another life in her hands. (I don't know if I'd put it that way!). She may just go get another kitty somewhere else. It sounds like she's in such pain that she can't bear to see anything/anyone suffer. Unfortunately that comes with life. She doesn't seem to have what it takes right now to suffer through the bad stuff to get to the good stuff. I'd certainly call, or write that vet to let him know there was someone out there that would have taken responsibility for Chrissy. Maybe he'll think about it next time someone wants to have an animal pts prematurely. Was Chrissy microchipped? You could suggest that he checks for a microchip before euthanizing anyone else. N [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Absolutely - everything that you said - you expressed it so well. So frustrating, and hard to evaluate the adopting woman's emotional state. And I end up with such a duality of feelings. She mentioned something about wanting to consider another kitty. I'm just going to ignore her and not call her back, although I've thought about calling / writing the vet. Gloria -- MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
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Gloria, First my condolences on losing Chrissy this way! It's so frustrating when people think they are doing the right thing, but don't bother contacting someone who they should know would be able to give them advice. I think you may be right, this had more to do with the adopter's emotional state than poor Chrissy's state of health. Shame on that vet for not encouraging her more vigorously to treat Chrissy, and shame on her for not contacting you. I've had adopters, that I thought were good homes do some horrendous things too, (One poor kitty has been declawed, it haunts me to this day). I can only imagine how upsetting this is to you. We try to do the best we can when placing them. It seems like no matter how hard we try, there are always going to be those that say one thing and do another. This is why I'm good at rescue and rehabilitation, and lousy at adoption. It's hard to have faith when there are so many people that don't react the way we expect, or would hope them to. I feel like hitting somebody, at the same time, I still feel sorry for the woman. If she were in front of me, I'm sure I could manage to feel sorry for her and hit her at the same time. Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, the owner indicated that it was her choice because she herself has had kidney stones and knows how much they hurt. She was new to that vet, as she just moved (like 10 miles from her former place). From what she said, she was just adamant about it, thinking she was doing the right thing. I mentioned to her that bladder stones were different than kidney stones, but she just said she didn't want her to hurt. I think she was trying to do the right thing, without listening to others. She's just getting over her mothers death, and seems to be depressed. I think it was a bad decision for good hearted reasons. Sigh again. Gloria
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Absolutely - everything that you said - you expressed it so well. So frustrating, and hard to evaluate the adopting woman's emotional state. And I end up with such a duality of feelings. She mentioned something about wanting to consider another kitty. I'm just going to ignore her and not call her back, although I've thought about calling / writing the vet. Gloria At 01:31 PM 12/14/2005, you wrote: Gloria, First my condolences on losing Chrissy this way! It's so frustrating when people think they are doing the right thing, but don't bother contacting someone who they should know would be able to give them advice. I think you may be right, this had more to do with the adopter's emotional state than poor Chrissy's state of health. Shame on that vet for not encouraging her more vigorously to treat Chrissy, and shame on her for not contacting you. I've had adopters, that I thought were good homes do some horrendous things too, (One poor kitty has been declawed, it haunts me to this day). I can only imagine how upsetting this is to you. We try to do the best we can when placing them. It seems like no matter how hard we try, there are always going to be those that say one thing and do another. This is why I'm good at rescue and rehabilitation, and lousy at adoption. It's hard to have faith when there are so many people that don't react the way we expect, or would hope them to. I feel like hitting somebody, at the same time, I still feel sorry for the woman. If she were in front of me, I'm sure I could manage to feel sorry for her and hit her at the same time. Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, the owner indicated that it was her choice because she herself has had kidney stones and knows how much they hurt. She was new to that vet, as she just moved (like 10 miles from her former place). From what she said, she was just adamant about it, thinking she was doing the right thing. I mentioned to her that bladder stones were different than kidney stones, but she just said she didn't want her to hurt. I think she was trying to do the right thing, without listening to others. She's just getting over her mothers death, and seems to be depressed. I think it was a bad decision for good hearted reasons. Sigh again. Gloria
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I don't know, I think I might talk to her about not being ready to take on the emotional hazards that come with the responsibility of holding another life in her hands. (I don't know if I'd put it that way!). She may just go get another kitty somewhere else. It sounds like she's in such pain that she can't bear to see anything/anyone suffer. Unfortunately that comes with life. She doesn't seem to have what it takes right now to suffer through the bad stuff to get to the good stuff. I'd certainly call, or write that vet to let him know there was someone out there that would have taken responsibility for Chrissy. Maybe he'll think about it next time someone wants to have an animal pts prematurely. Was Chrissy microchipped? You could suggest that he checks for a microchip before euthanizing anyone else. N [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Absolutely - everything that you said - you expressed it so well. So frustrating, and hard to evaluate the adopting woman's emotional state. And I end up with such a duality of feelings. She mentioned something about wanting to consider another kitty. I'm just going to ignore her and not call her back, although I've thought about calling / writing the vet. Gloria
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I've been seriously thinking about getting microchips. Don't think anyone else in our rescue group is that interested, but maybe I'll bring the subject up again. Those are all good points - I may do that. The vet is maybe 15 miles away, and may not be aware of our cat rescue, so I do want to make him aware of that too, and our policies and our contract with our adopters (we always take our cats back if needed). Gloria At 05:50 PM 12/14/2005, you wrote: I don't know, I think I might talk to her about not being ready to take on the emotional hazards that come with the responsibility of holding another life in her hands. (I don't know if I'd put it that way!). She may just go get another kitty somewhere else. It sounds like she's in such pain that she can't bear to see anything/anyone suffer. Unfortunately that comes with life. She doesn't seem to have what it takes right now to suffer through the bad stuff to get to the good stuff. I'd certainly call, or write that vet to let him know there was someone out there that would have taken responsibility for Chrissy. Maybe he'll think about it next time someone wants to have an animal pts prematurely. Was Chrissy microchipped? You could suggest that he checks for a microchip before euthanizing anyone else. N [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Absolutely - everything that you said - you expressed it so well. So frustrating, and hard to evaluate the adopting woman's emotional state. And I end up with such a duality of feelings. She mentioned something about wanting to consider another kitty. I'm just going to ignore her and not call her back, although I've thought about calling / writing the vet. Gloria
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Maybe Chrissy has saved more than one life with the sacrifice of her own. :( N [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been seriously thinking about getting microchips. Don't think anyone else in our rescue group is that interested, but maybe I'll bring the subject up again. Those are all good points - I may do that. The vet is maybe 15 miles away, and may not be aware of our cat rescue, so I do want to make him aware of that too, and our policies and our contract with our adopters (we always take our cats back if needed). Gloria At 05:50 PM 12/14/2005, you wrote: I don't know, I think I might talk to her about not being ready to take on the emotional hazards that come with the responsibility of holding another life in her hands. (I don't know if I'd put it that way!). She may just go get another kitty somewhere else. It sounds like she's in such pain that she can't bear to see anything/anyone suffer. Unfortunately that comes with life. She doesn't seem to have what it takes right now to suffer through the bad stuff to get to the good stuff. I'd certainly call, or write that vet to let him know there was someone out there that would have taken responsibility for Chrissy. Maybe he'll think about it next time someone wants to have an animal pts prematurely. Was Chrissy microchipped? You could suggest that he checks for a microchip before euthanizing anyone else. N [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Absolutely - everything that you said - you expressed it so well. So frustrating, and hard to evaluate the adopting woman's emotional state. And I end up with such a duality of feelings. She mentioned something about wanting to consider another kitty. I'm just going to ignore her and not call her back, although I've thought about calling / writing the vet. Gloria
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That is so true - that they are in our hearts forever. Even if they've only been our fosters for a very short time. Chrissy was so pretty and had been so unhappy around other kitties, and this seemed to be the perfect home for her. TenHouseCats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: sigh. i'm sorry, gloria--but it reminds me that while they're fostersfor just a while in our homes, they remain in our hearts foreverOn 12/12/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: Hi Tonya - you got that right. I thought it was a good home. I know she wanted to do the right thing, and that she was ignorant of these issues. But I would NOT of course, have euthanized a cat because of a bladder stone... Sigh... Gloria At 06:36 PM 12/12/2005, you wrote: Gloria, I'm so sorry. I know how hard it is to let go of a foster to its new home. I'm sure this is very upsetting to you. :( tonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Belinda would you add one of my former fosters (not FELV) to the Bridge list? Name was Chrissy, owner renamed to Prissy. She was a pretty little exotic type kitty, silver gray with stripes and huge eyes, adopted out this past May.. Her owner found out that she had a large bladder stone, and had her euthanized, sigh. Gloria --MaryChristineAIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCatsMSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ: 289856892
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Gloria, I'm sorry to hear about Chrissy. Do you think the vet recommended euthanasia for a bladder stone? Doesn't make sense. :) Wendy --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Belinda would you add one of my former fosters (not FELV) to the Bridge list? Name was Chrissy, owner renamed to Prissy. She was a pretty little exotic type kitty, silver gray with stripes and huge eyes, adopted out this past May.. Her owner found out that she had a large bladder stone, and had her euthanized, sigh. Gloria __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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Actually, the owner indicated that it was her choice because she herself has had kidney stones and knows how much they hurt. She was new to that vet, as she just moved (like 10 miles from her former place). From what she said, she was just adamant about it, thinking she was doing the right thing. I mentioned to her that bladder stones were different than kidney stones, but she just said she didn't want her to hurt. I think she was trying to do the right thing, without listening to others. She's just getting over her mothers death, and seems to be depressed. I think it was a bad decision for good hearted reasons. Sigh again. Gloria Wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : Gloria, I'm sorry to hear about Chrissy. Do you think the vet recommended euthanasia for a bladder stone? Doesn't make sense. Wendy --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: gt; Belinda would you add one of my former fosters (not gt; FELV) to the Bridge gt; list? Name was Chrissy, owner renamed to Prissy. gt; She was a pretty little gt; exotic type kitty, silver gray with stripes and huge gt; eyes, adopted out this gt; past May.. Her owner found out that she had a large gt; bladder stone, and had gt; her euthanized, sigh. gt; gt; Gloria gt; gt; gt; __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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Actually, the owner indicated that it was her choice because she herself has had kidney stones and knows how much they hurt. She was new to that vet, as she just moved (like 10 miles from her former place). From what she said, she was just adamant about it, thinking she was doing the right thing. I mentioned to her that bladder stones were different than kidney stones, but she just said she didn't want her to hurt. I think she was trying to do the right thing, without listening to others. She's just getting over her mothers death, and seems to be depressed. I think it was a bad decision for good hearted reasons. Sigh again. Gloria Wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : Gloria, I'm sorry to hear about Chrissy. Do you think the vet recommended euthanasia for a bladder stone? Doesn't make sense. Wendy --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: gt; Belinda would you add one of my former fosters (not gt; FELV) to the Bridge gt; list? Name was Chrissy, owner renamed to Prissy. gt; She was a pretty little gt; exotic type kitty, silver gray with stripes and huge gt; eyes, adopted out this gt; past May.. Her owner found out that she had a large gt; bladder stone, and had gt; her euthanized, sigh. gt; gt; Gloria gt; gt; gt; __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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Thanks so much, Kerry... At 05:07 PM 12/13/2005, you wrote: Gloria, I am so sorry. That is awful, truly heartbreaking. I am sort of dreading the time my foster Pookie goes back home. (Supposed to be Xmas now, but it was supposed to be Thanksgiving, so I don't know...) love and hugs to you, Gloria Kerry - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 12:33 PM Subject: Chrissy/Prissy on the bridge list Belinda would you add one of my former fosters (not FELV) to the Bridge list? Name was Chrissy, owner renamed to Prissy. She was a pretty little exotic type kitty, silver gray with stripes and huge eyes, adopted out this past May.. Her owner found out that she had a large bladder stone, and had her euthanized, sigh. Gloria
Chrissy/Prissy on the bridge list
Belinda would you add one of my former fosters (not FELV) to the Bridge list? Name was Chrissy, owner renamed to Prissy. She was a pretty little exotic type kitty, silver gray with stripes and huge eyes, adopted out this past May.. Her owner found out that she had a large bladder stone, and had her euthanized, sigh. Gloria
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That's terrible, I didn't think a bladder stone was untreatable!! -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candle Light Service http://www.bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting web design) http://HostDesign4U.com --- BMK Designs (non-profit web sites) http://bmk.bemikitties.com
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Gloria,I'm so sorry. I know how hard it is to let go of a foster to its new home. I'm sure this is very upsetting to you. :(tonya[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Belinda would you add one of my former fosters (not FELV) to the Bridge list? Name was Chrissy, owner renamed to Prissy. She was a pretty little exotic type kitty, silver gray with stripes and huge eyes, adopted out this past May.. Her owner found out that she had a large bladder stone, and had her euthanized, sigh.Gloria
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Hi Tonya - you got that right. I thought it was a good home. I know she wanted to do the right thing, and that she was ignorant of these issues. But I would NOT of course, have euthanized a cat because of a bladder stone... Sigh... Gloria At 06:36 PM 12/12/2005, you wrote: Gloria, I'm so sorry. I know how hard it is to let go of a foster to its new home. I'm sure this is very upsetting to you. :( tonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Belinda would you add one of my former fosters (not FELV) to the Bridge list? Name was Chrissy, owner renamed to Prissy. She was a pretty little exotic type kitty, silver gray with stripes and huge eyes, adopted out this past May.. Her owner found out that she had a large bladder stone, and had her euthanized, sigh. Gloria
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sigh. i'm sorry, gloria--but it reminds me that while they're fosters for just a while in our homes, they remain in our hearts forever On 12/12/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Tonya - you got that right. I thought it was a good home. I know she wanted to do the right thing, and that she was ignorant of these issues. But I would NOT of course, have euthanized a cat because of a bladder stone... Sigh... Gloria At 06:36 PM 12/12/2005, you wrote: Gloria, I'm so sorry. I know how hard it is to let go of a foster to its new home. I'm sure this is very upsetting to you. :( tonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Belinda would you add one of my former fosters (not FELV) to the Bridge list? Name was Chrissy, owner renamed to Prissy. She was a pretty little exotic type kitty, silver gray with stripes and huge eyes, adopted out this past May.. Her owner found out that she had a large bladder stone, and had her euthanized, sigh. Gloria -- MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
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Yes, I think I told this story before, but when I fostered and worked adoptions I would NEVER adopt out a cat/kitten to a family with very young children. I broke my rule ONE time for a family with ONE young boy (about 4 or 5) who seemed very calm and very good with my foster. Well.. a YEAR or TWO later the lady calls and says that Annie was not working out very well. She hid under the bed all of the time and was afraid of her son. I told her I was coming to get my cat. NOW. lol. And I still have little orphan Annie now. She wasn't a 'tiny' kitten because I never adopted out under 9-12 weeks, but she is still skittish to this day. I always wonder if it's just her personality or because of the time she spent with her not forever family. I still worry about other fosters I've placed over the years and wonder if they're being taken care of. I just can't foster anymore. What comes here stays here unless I personally know the person adopting. Like, maybe, Brenda Smith! or you! lol. t[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Tonya - you got that right. I thought it was a good home. I know she wanted to do the right thing, and that she was ignorant of these issues. But I would NOT of course, have euthanized a cat because of a bladder stone...Sigh...GloriaAt 06:36 PM 12/12/2005, you wrote:Gloria,I'm so sorry. I know how hard it is to let go of a foster to its new home. I'm sure this is very upsetting to you. :(tonya[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Belinda would you add one of my former fosters (not FELV) to the Bridgelist? Name was Chrissy, owner renamed to Prissy. She was a pretty littleexotic type kitty, silver gray with stripes and huge eyes, adopted out thispast May.. Her owner found out that she had a large bladder stone, and hadher euthanized, sigh.Gloria
