Re: [Felvtalk] PLEASE HELP ASAP - VERY SICK FELV CAT

2019-09-19 Thread Wendy
Hello Amani,  Thank you very much for your detailed response.  I apologize for 
my poor explanation regarding the blood transfusion not being effective. You 
are correct, that it was merely a dilution effect from the iv fluids.  All the 
best, Wendy

From: Amani Oakley 
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2019 1:50 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PLEASE HELP ASAP - VERY SICK FELV CAT

As others have mentioned in reply to your post, I have used a combination of 
Winstrol (Stanozolol), Doxycycline and Prednisone. The blood work seems to show 
that there is an affect on both the red cell lines and platelets. That suggests 
that this is a bone marrow depression, and in turn that suggests that this is 
likely the effect of FeLV. My experience has been that the Winstrol seems to 
turn back on or encourage the growth of new bone marrow cells, and is really 
great for increasing red cell indices (red cell counts, haematocrit, 
haemoglobin, reticulocyte count), and I saw it take effect pretty quickly. My 
cat's haematocrit was down to 10 after two separate rounds of blood transfusion.

By the way, I don't understand the explanation in your email, that you've been 
told that the blood transfusion wasn't effective because of too much IV fluids. 
That doesn't make a lot of sense. You are still infusing the same volume of red 
cells, whether that is diluted by the IV fluids or not. I agree that the lab 
results may show a dilution effect because of the IV fluids, but that just 
means that when the excess fluid is pee'd out, then the haematocrit result will 
go up. By the way, if there is truly a dilution effect, it will show on a 
number of lab results like sodium, potassium, urea and platelets.

What I had my cat on was:   Winstrol (stanozolol)  
1 mg, 2 times a day (though this can be dramatically increased if necessary)
 Doxycycline
  50 mg daily (can be given once, or split to 25 mg, 2 times a day)
 Prednisone/Prednisolone
  5 mg daily (can be given once, or split to 2.5 mg, 2 times a day)


Amani

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Sent: September 19, 2019 1:26 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>
Subject: [Felvtalk] PLEASE HELP ASAP - VERY SICK FELV CAT
Importance: High

Hello, Our FELV positive neutered male cat approximately 1 and ½ years old has 
gotten very sick suddenly.  He is a house cat, and he was neutered in May of 
2019.  Would you please let us know what we can do to help our much-loved cat?  
A few days ago, he became lethargic and lost interest in eating.  We had his 
blood drawn yesterday and he had iv fluids yesterday, and today we were told he 
needed a blood transfusion (or two) and more iv fluids, and then a bone marrow 
test tomorrow.  We were told that the first blood transfusion today was not 
very effective because he got so many iv fluids at the same time, so now they 
are going to give him another transfusion.  As background, we rescued him as a 
stray from Barbados in October 2018 when he was about 6 months old, and he has 
been healthy, active, happy and gaining weight, despite being FELV positive.  
Since October 2018, we cured him of giardia and bartonella henselae.  On 
12/31/2018, he tested positive for the ELISA and IFA, although his blood work 
was in normal ranges at that time.  In 03/2019, we started giving him 1 t-cyte 
shot once per month, and we started giving him 1ml of interferon per days for 7 
days on and then 7 days off, repeated.  We have continued the interferon and 
t-cyte in this manner ever since 03/2019.  Just yesterday, here are the results 
of his blood work that are not in normal range:
AST (SGOT) 106
Glucose 178
CPK 711
WBC 20.5
RBC 2.5
HGB 4.5
HCT 14
NRBC 9
Platelet Count 78
Neutrophils 1640
Lymphocytes 17630
Monocytes 1025
Basophils 205
Protein 2+
Reticulocyte 0.6 and 15000
Would you please let us know what we can do to help our cat?
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Re: [Felvtalk] PLEASE HELP ASAP - VERY SICK FELV CAT

2019-09-19 Thread Amani Oakley
As others have mentioned in reply to your post, I have used a combination of 
Winstrol (Stanozolol), Doxycycline and Prednisone. The blood work seems to show 
that there is an affect on both the red cell lines and platelets. That suggests 
that this is a bone marrow depression, and in turn that suggests that this is 
likely the effect of FeLV. My experience has been that the Winstrol seems to 
turn back on or encourage the growth of new bone marrow cells, and is really 
great for increasing red cell indices (red cell counts, haematocrit, 
haemoglobin, reticulocyte count), and I saw it take effect pretty quickly. My 
cat's haematocrit was down to 10 after two separate rounds of blood transfusion.

By the way, I don't understand the explanation in your email, that you've been 
told that the blood transfusion wasn't effective because of too much IV fluids. 
That doesn't make a lot of sense. You are still infusing the same volume of red 
cells, whether that is diluted by the IV fluids or not. I agree that the lab 
results may show a dilution effect because of the IV fluids, but that just 
means that when the excess fluid is pee'd out, then the haematocrit result will 
go up. By the way, if there is truly a dilution effect, it will show on a 
number of lab results like sodium, potassium, urea and platelets.

What I had my cat on was:   Winstrol (stanozolol)  
1 mg, 2 times a day (though this can be dramatically increased if necessary)
 Doxycycline
  50 mg daily (can be given once, or split to 25 mg, 2 times a day)
 Prednisone/Prednisolone
  5 mg daily (can be given once, or split to 2.5 mg, 2 times a day)


Amani

From: Felvtalk  On Behalf Of Wendy
Sent: September 19, 2019 1:26 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] PLEASE HELP ASAP - VERY SICK FELV CAT
Importance: High

Hello, Our FELV positive neutered male cat approximately 1 and ½ years old has 
gotten very sick suddenly.  He is a house cat, and he was neutered in May of 
2019.  Would you please let us know what we can do to help our much-loved cat?  
A few days ago, he became lethargic and lost interest in eating.  We had his 
blood drawn yesterday and he had iv fluids yesterday, and today we were told he 
needed a blood transfusion (or two) and more iv fluids, and then a bone marrow 
test tomorrow.  We were told that the first blood transfusion today was not 
very effective because he got so many iv fluids at the same time, so now they 
are going to give him another transfusion.  As background, we rescued him as a 
stray from Barbados in October 2018 when he was about 6 months old, and he has 
been healthy, active, happy and gaining weight, despite being FELV positive.  
Since October 2018, we cured him of giardia and bartonella henselae.  On 
12/31/2018, he tested positive for the ELISA and IFA, although his blood work 
was in normal ranges at that time.  In 03/2019, we started giving him 1 t-cyte 
shot once per month, and we started giving him 1ml of interferon per days for 7 
days on and then 7 days off, repeated.  We have continued the interferon and 
t-cyte in this manner ever since 03/2019.  Just yesterday, here are the results 
of his blood work that are not in normal range:
AST (SGOT) 106
Glucose 178
CPK 711
WBC 20.5
RBC 2.5
HGB 4.5
HCT 14
NRBC 9
Platelet Count 78
Neutrophils 1640
Lymphocytes 17630
Monocytes 1025
Basophils 205
Protein 2+
Reticulocyte 0.6 and 15000
Would you please let us know what we can do to help our cat?
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Re: [Felvtalk] PLEASE HELP ASAP - VERY SICK FELV CAT - reposting as other email too long

2019-09-19 Thread gidget43
I very seldom post here, but your baby is very anemic.  HCT 14% and if it 
continues to drop will need a transfusion.  Many here at one time suggested 
Winstrol for anemia.  
https://www.rxlist.com/winstrol-side-effects-drug-center.htm    I am sure 
others will chime in here, but this was said to work.  
https://gainsmadness.com/what-is-winstrol-cycle/



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cat approximately 1 and ½ years old has gotten very sick suddenly.  He is a 
house cat, and he was neutered in May of 2019.  Would you please let us know 
what we can do to help our much-loved cat?  A few days ago, he became lethargic 
and lost interest in eating.  We had his blood drawn yesterday and he had iv 
fluids yesterday, and today we were told he needed a blood transfusion (or two) 
and more iv fluids, and then a bone marrow test tomorrow.  We were told that 
the first blood transfusion today was not very effective because he got so many 
iv fluids at the same time, so now they are going to give him another 
transfusion.  As background, we rescued him as a stray from Barbados in October 
2018 when he was about 6 months old, and he has been healthy, active, happy and 
gaining weight, despite being FELV positive.  Since October 2018, we cured him 
of giardia and bartonella henselae.  On 12/31/2018, he tested positive for the 
ELISA and IFA, although his blood work was in normal ranges at that time.  In 
03/2019, we started giving him 1 t-cyte shot once per month, and we started 
giving him 1ml of interferon per days for 7 days on and then 7 days off, 
repeated.  We have continued the interferon and t-cyte in this manner ever 
since 03/2019.  Just yesterday, here are the results of his blood work that are 
not in normal range: AST (SGOT) 106 Glucose 178 CPK 711 WBC 20.5 RBC 2.5 HGB 
4.5 HCT 14 NRBC 9 Platelet Count 78 Neutrophils 1640 Lymphocytes 17630 
Monocytes 1025 Basophils 205 Protein 2+ Reticulocyte 0.6 and 15000 Would you 
please let us know what we can do to help our cat? Thank you, Wendy 
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[Felvtalk] PLEASE HELP ASAP - VERY SICK FELV CAT - reposting as other email too long

2019-09-19 Thread Wendy
Hello, Our FELV positive neutered male cat approximately 1 and ½ years old has 
gotten very sick suddenly.  He is a house cat, and he was neutered in May of 
2019.  Would you please let us know what we can do to help our much-loved cat?  
A few days ago, he became lethargic and lost interest in eating.  We had his 
blood drawn yesterday and he had iv fluids yesterday, and today we were told he 
needed a blood transfusion (or two) and more iv fluids, and then a bone marrow 
test tomorrow.  We were told that the first blood transfusion today was not 
very effective because he got so many iv fluids at the same time, so now they 
are going to give him another transfusion.  As background, we rescued him as a 
stray from Barbados in October 2018 when he was about 6 months old, and he has 
been healthy, active, happy and gaining weight, despite being FELV positive.  
Since October 2018, we cured him of giardia and bartonella henselae.  On 
12/31/2018, he tested positive for the ELISA and IFA, although his blood work 
was in normal ranges at that time.  In 03/2019, we started giving him 1 t-cyte 
shot once per month, and we started giving him 1ml of interferon per days for 7 
days on and then 7 days off, repeated.  We have continued the interferon and 
t-cyte in this manner ever since 03/2019.  Just yesterday, here are the results 
of his blood work that are not in normal range:
AST (SGOT) 106
Glucose 178
CPK 711
WBC 20.5
RBC 2.5
HGB 4.5
HCT 14
NRBC 9
Platelet Count 78
Neutrophils 1640
Lymphocytes 17630
Monocytes 1025
Basophils 205
Protein 2+
Reticulocyte 0.6 and 15000
Would you please let us know what we can do to help our cat?
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Re: [Felvtalk] PLEASE HELP ASAP - VERY SICK FELV CAT

2019-09-19 Thread LORRAINE JOHNSTON
Oral dosing is okay with human interferon Alfa 2b. You might want to try 
retromad1, imported from Malaysia. There is a man, John B., on the fivtherapy 
yahoogroup who has a colony of felv and fiv cats, and lots of good advice. You 
might want to join that group (felv is discussed there, even though the group 
name is fivtherapy). Also, I will get in touch with 

John via private email about your kitty. He is in South Africa, so if you’re in 
the US, there might be a time delay.


BTW, I don’t hear too many success stories about tcyte. Not that it causes 
harm, to my knowledge, just that it doesn't seem to help.


- Lorraine 

> On September 19, 2019 at 7:50 AM Wendy  wrote:
> 
>  
> Hello Lorraine, it is interferon alpha 2B compounded that my vet ordered 
> for our cat from Road Runner Pharmacy.  It shows Cat on the label.  He takes 
> the interferon orally, and not by injection.  Sorry for all of the responses, 
> I’m trying to figure out this system and worried about our precious cat.  
> Does this help?  Thank you so much, Wendy
> 
> On Sep 18, 2019, at 10:26 PM, Wendy < we...@wendyfrank.net 
> mailto:we...@wendyfrank.net > wrote:
> 
> 
> > > 
> > Hello, Our FELV positive neutered male cat approximately 1 and ½ 
> > years old has gotten very sick suddenly.  He is a house cat, and he was 
> > neutered in May of 2019.  Would you please let us know what we can do to 
> > help our much-loved cat?  A few days ago, he became lethargic and lost 
> > interest in eating.  We had his blood drawn yesterday and he had iv fluids 
> > yesterday, and today we were told he needed a blood transfusion (or two) 
> > and more iv fluids, and then a bone marrow test tomorrow.  We were told 
> > that the first blood transfusion today was not very effective because he 
> > got so many iv fluids at the same time, so now they are going to give him 
> > another transfusion.  As background, we rescued him as a stray from 
> > Barbados in October 2018 when he was about 6 months old, and he has been 
> > healthy, active, happy and gaining weight, despite being FELV positive.  
> > Since October 2018, we cured him of giardia and bartonella henselae.  On 
> > 12/31/2018, he tested positive for the ELISA and IFA, although his blood 
> > work was in normal ranges at that time.  In 03/2019, we started giving him 
> > 1 t-cyte shot once per month, and we started giving him 1ml of interferon 
> > per days for 7 days on and then 7 days off, repeated.  We have continued 
> > the interferon and t-cyte in this manner ever since 03/2019.  Just 
> > yesterday, here are the results of his blood work that are not in normal 
> > range:
> > 
> > AST (SGOT) 106
> > 
> > Glucose 178
> > 
> > CPK 711
> > 
> > WBC 20.5
> > 
> > RBC 2.5
> > 
> > HGB 4.5
> > 
> > HCT 14
> > 
> > NRBC 9
> > 
> > Platelet Count 78
> > 
> > Neutrophils 1640
> > 
> > Lymphocytes 17630
> > 
> > Monocytes 1025
> > 
> > Basophils 205
> > 
> > Protein 2+
> > 
> > Reticulocyte 0.6 and 15000
> > 
> > Would you please let us know what we can do to help our cat?
> > 
> > Thank you, Wendy
> > 
> > > 


 

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Re: [Felvtalk] PLEASE HELP ASAP - VERY SICK FELV CAT

2019-09-19 Thread Wendy
He is getting the interferon orally and it is never being injected.

On Sep 18, 2019, at 10:26 PM, Wendy 
mailto:we...@wendyfrank.net>> wrote:

Hello, Our FELV positive neutered male cat approximately 1 and ½ years old has 
gotten very sick suddenly.  He is a house cat, and he was neutered in May of 
2019.  Would you please let us know what we can do to help our much-loved cat?  
A few days ago, he became lethargic and lost interest in eating.  We had his 
blood drawn yesterday and he had iv fluids yesterday, and today we were told he 
needed a blood transfusion (or two) and more iv fluids, and then a bone marrow 
test tomorrow.  We were told that the first blood transfusion today was not 
very effective because he got so many iv fluids at the same time, so now they 
are going to give him another transfusion.  As background, we rescued him as a 
stray from Barbados in October 2018 when he was about 6 months old, and he has 
been healthy, active, happy and gaining weight, despite being FELV positive.  
Since October 2018, we cured him of giardia and bartonella henselae.  On 
12/31/2018, he tested positive for the ELISA and IFA, although his blood work 
was in normal ranges at that time.  In 03/2019, we started giving him 1 t-cyte 
shot once per month, and we started giving him 1ml of interferon per days for 7 
days on and then 7 days off, repeated.  We have continued the interferon and 
t-cyte in this manner ever since 03/2019.  Just yesterday, here are the results 
of his blood work that are not in normal range:
AST (SGOT) 106
Glucose 178
CPK 711
WBC 20.5
RBC 2.5
HGB 4.5
HCT 14
NRBC 9
Platelet Count 78
Neutrophils 1640
Lymphocytes 17630
Monocytes 1025
Basophils 205
Protein 2+
Reticulocyte 0.6 and 15000
Would you please let us know what we can do to help our cat?
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Re: [Felvtalk] PLEASE HELP ASAP - VERY SICK FELV CAT

2019-09-19 Thread Wendy
Hello Lorraine, it is interferon alpha 2B compounded that my vet ordered for 
our cat from Road Runner Pharmacy.  It shows Cat on the label.  He takes the 
interferon orally, and not by injection.  Sorry for all of the responses, I’m 
trying to figure out this system and worried about our precious cat.  Does this 
help?  Thank you so much, Wendy

On Sep 18, 2019, at 10:26 PM, Wendy 
mailto:we...@wendyfrank.net>> wrote:

Hello, Our FELV positive neutered male cat approximately 1 and ½ years old has 
gotten very sick suddenly.  He is a house cat, and he was neutered in May of 
2019.  Would you please let us know what we can do to help our much-loved cat?  
A few days ago, he became lethargic and lost interest in eating.  We had his 
blood drawn yesterday and he had iv fluids yesterday, and today we were told he 
needed a blood transfusion (or two) and more iv fluids, and then a bone marrow 
test tomorrow.  We were told that the first blood transfusion today was not 
very effective because he got so many iv fluids at the same time, so now they 
are going to give him another transfusion.  As background, we rescued him as a 
stray from Barbados in October 2018 when he was about 6 months old, and he has 
been healthy, active, happy and gaining weight, despite being FELV positive.  
Since October 2018, we cured him of giardia and bartonella henselae.  On 
12/31/2018, he tested positive for the ELISA and IFA, although his blood work 
was in normal ranges at that time.  In 03/2019, we started giving him 1 t-cyte 
shot once per month, and we started giving him 1ml of interferon per days for 7 
days on and then 7 days off, repeated.  We have continued the interferon and 
t-cyte in this manner ever since 03/2019.  Just yesterday, here are the results 
of his blood work that are not in normal range:
AST (SGOT) 106
Glucose 178
CPK 711
WBC 20.5
RBC 2.5
HGB 4.5
HCT 14
NRBC 9
Platelet Count 78
Neutrophils 1640
Lymphocytes 17630
Monocytes 1025
Basophils 205
Protein 2+
Reticulocyte 0.6 and 15000
Would you please let us know what we can do to help our cat?
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Re: [Felvtalk] PLEASE HELP ASAP - VERY SICK FELV CAT

2019-09-19 Thread Wendy
Hello Lorraine, it is interferon alpha 2B compounded that my vet ordered for 
our cat from Road Runner Pharmacy.  It shows Cat on the label.  Does this help? 
 Thank you so much, Wendy

On Sep 18, 2019, at 10:26 PM, Wendy 
mailto:we...@wendyfrank.net>> wrote:

Hello, Our FELV positive neutered male cat approximately 1 and ½ years old has 
gotten very sick suddenly.  He is a house cat, and he was neutered in May of 
2019.  Would you please let us know what we can do to help our much-loved cat?  
A few days ago, he became lethargic and lost interest in eating.  We had his 
blood drawn yesterday and he had iv fluids yesterday, and today we were told he 
needed a blood transfusion (or two) and more iv fluids, and then a bone marrow 
test tomorrow.  We were told that the first blood transfusion today was not 
very effective because he got so many iv fluids at the same time, so now they 
are going to give him another transfusion.  As background, we rescued him as a 
stray from Barbados in October 2018 when he was about 6 months old, and he has 
been healthy, active, happy and gaining weight, despite being FELV positive.  
Since October 2018, we cured him of giardia and bartonella henselae.  On 
12/31/2018, he tested positive for the ELISA and IFA, although his blood work 
was in normal ranges at that time.  In 03/2019, we started giving him 1 t-cyte 
shot once per month, and we started giving him 1ml of interferon per days for 7 
days on and then 7 days off, repeated.  We have continued the interferon and 
t-cyte in this manner ever since 03/2019.  Just yesterday, here are the results 
of his blood work that are not in normal range:
AST (SGOT) 106
Glucose 178
CPK 711
WBC 20.5
RBC 2.5
HGB 4.5
HCT 14
NRBC 9
Platelet Count 78
Neutrophils 1640
Lymphocytes 17630
Monocytes 1025
Basophils 205
Protein 2+
Reticulocyte 0.6 and 15000
Would you please let us know what we can do to help our cat?
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Re: [Felvtalk] PLEASE HELP ASAP - VERY SICK FELV CAT - REPOSTING WITH FULL BLOOD WORK

2019-09-19 Thread LORRAINE JOHNSTON
You are using feline interferon omega, yes? Not human interferon? The human 
version can be given orally for stomatitis  but if injected it will eventually 
cause an allergic reaction.


- Lorraine

> On September 19, 2019 at 2:02 AM Wendy  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hello, Our FELV positive neutered male cat approximately 1 and ½ years 
> old has gotten very sick suddenly.  He is a house cat, and he was neutered in 
> May of 2019.  Would you please let us know what we can do to help our 
> much-loved cat?  A few days ago, he became lethargic and lost interest in 
> eating.  We had his blood drawn yesterday and he had iv fluids yesterday, and 
> today we were told he needed a blood transfusion (or two) and more iv fluids, 
> and then a bone marrow test tomorrow.  We were told that the first blood 
> transfusion today was not very effective because he got so many iv fluids at 
> the same time, so now they are going to give him another transfusion.  As 
> background, we rescued him as a stray from Barbados in October 2018 when he 
> was about 6 months old, and he has been healthy, active, happy and gaining 
> weight, despite being FELV positive.  Since October 2018, we cured him of 
> giardia and bartonella henselae.  On 12/31/2018, he tested positive for the 
> ELISA and IFA, although his blood work was in normal ranges at that time.  In 
> 03/2019, we started giving him 1 t-cyte shot once per month, and we started 
> giving him 1ml of interferon per days for 7 days on and then 7 days off, 
> repeated.  We have continued the interferon and t-cyte in this manner ever 
> since 03/2019.  Just yesterday, here are the results of his blood work:
> 
>  Tests ResultsRef. Range  
>  Units
> 
>  Total Protein  6.1   5.2- 8.8
>  g/dL
> 
>  Albumin 3.5   2.5- 3.9   
>   g/dl
> 
>  Globulin 2.6   2.3- 5.3  
>g/dL
> 
>  A/G Rat io  1.30.35- 1.5
> 
>  AST (SGOT)  106 (HIGH)   10-100  
>   IU/L
> 
>  ALT (SGPT)   3910- 100   
>  IU/L
> 
>  Alk Phosphatase406- 102  
>IU/L
> 
>  GGT  1  1- 10
>   IU/L
> 
>  Total Bilirubin0.1   0.1- 0.4
>  mg/dL
> 
>  BUN 1514- 36 
> mg/dl
> 
>  Creatinine  0.9   0.6- 2.4   
>   mg/dl
> 
>  BUN/Creatinine Ratio   17 4-33
> 
>  Phosphorus4.4   2.4- 8.2 
> mg/dl
> 
>  Glucose178 (HIGH)
>64 - 170mg/dL
>  
> 
>  Calcium 9.38.2- 10 .8
>m g/dL
> 
>  Magnesium2.0   1.5- 2.5  
>mEq/L
> 
>  Sodium 153  145-158  
>   mEq/L
> 
>  Potassium  4.6   3.4- 5.6
>  mEq/L
> 
>  NAIK Ratio 3332-41
> 
>  Chloride121  104-128 
>mEq/L
> 
>  Cholesterol9475- 220 
>mg/dl
> 
>  Triglyceride108  25-160  
>   mg/dl
> 
>  Amylase   611  100-1200  
> IU/L
> 
>  PrecisionPSL™  10 8- 26  
>  U/L Acute pancrea titis is unlikely. Chronic pancreatitis is 
> not excluded
> 
>  by a norm al PrecisionPSL™.
> 
>  
> 
> CPK711 (HIGH)  56-529 IU/L
> 
>  
> 
> WBC

[Felvtalk] PLEASE HELP ASAP - VERY SICK FELV CAT - REPOSTING WITH FULL BLOOD WORK

2019-09-19 Thread Wendy
Hello, Our FELV positive neutered male cat approximately 1 and ½ years old has 
gotten very sick suddenly.  He is a house cat, and he was neutered in May of 
2019.  Would you please let us know what we can do to help our much-loved cat?  
A few days ago, he became lethargic and lost interest in eating.  We had his 
blood drawn yesterday and he had iv fluids yesterday, and today we were told he 
needed a blood transfusion (or two) and more iv fluids, and then a bone marrow 
test tomorrow.  We were told that the first blood transfusion today was not 
very effective because he got so many iv fluids at the same time, so now they 
are going to give him another transfusion.  As background, we rescued him as a 
stray from Barbados in October 2018 when he was about 6 months old, and he has 
been healthy, active, happy and gaining weight, despite being FELV positive.  
Since October 2018, we cured him of giardia and bartonella henselae.  On 
12/31/2018, he tested positive for the ELISA and IFA, although his blood work 
was in normal ranges at that time.  In 03/2019, we started giving him 1 t-cyte 
shot once per month, and we started giving him 1ml of interferon per days for 7 
days on and then 7 days off, repeated.  We have continued the interferon and 
t-cyte in this manner ever since 03/2019.  Just yesterday, here are the results 
of his blood work:

Tests ResultsRef. Range 
  Units

Total Protein  6.1   5.2- 8.8   
  g/dL

Albumin 3.5   2.5- 3.9  
   g/dl

Globulin 2.6   2.3- 5.3 
g/dL

A/G Rat io  1.30.35- 1.5

AST (SGOT)  106 (HIGH)   10-100 
   IU/L

ALT (SGPT)   3910- 100  
  IU/L

Alk Phosphatase406- 102 
IU/L

GGT  1  1- 10   
   IU/L

Total Bilirubin0.1   0.1- 0.4   
  mg/dL

BUN 1514- 36
 mg/dl

Creatinine  0.9   0.6- 2.4  
   mg/dl

BUN/Creatinine Ratio   17 4-33

Phosphorus4.4   2.4- 8.2
 mg/dl

Glucose178 (HIGH)   64 
- 170mg/dL



Calcium 9.38.2- 10 .8   
m g/dL

Magnesium2.0   1.5- 2.5 
mEq/L

Sodium 153  145-158 
   mEq/L

Potassium  4.6   3.4- 5.6   
  mEq/L

NAIK Ratio 3332-41

Chloride121  104-128
mEq/L

Cholesterol9475- 220
mg/dl

Triglyceride108  25-160 
   mg/dl

Amylase   611  100-1200 
 IU/L

PrecisionPSL(tm)  10 8- 26  
 U/L Acute pancrea titis is unlikely. Chronic pancreatitis is not 
excluded

by a norm al PrecisionPSL(tm).

CPK711 (HIGH)  56-529 IU/L


WBC 20.5 (HIGH)3.5- 16.0
  10'/µL

Corrected for NRBCs



ABC  2.5 (LOW)5.92-9.93 
  10°/µ L

HGB   4.5 (LOW)9.3- 15 .9   
g/dL

HCT   29-48 
  % '

The hematocrit in th 27. (Normal range 29-48). A recent study has indicated 
that >23% of anemic cats are infected with one or more species of hemoplasma 
and several studies confirm that PCR is significantly more sensitive in 
detecting hemoplasma.



MCV  5737-61
  fl

MCH 18.2 11-21  
pg

MCHC  3230

[Felvtalk] PLEASE HELP ASAP - VERY SICK FELV CAT

2019-09-18 Thread Wendy
Hello, Our FELV positive neutered male cat approximately 1 and ½ years old has 
gotten very sick suddenly.  He is a house cat, and he was neutered in May of 
2019.  Would you please let us know what we can do to help our much-loved cat?  
A few days ago, he became lethargic and lost interest in eating.  We had his 
blood drawn yesterday and he had iv fluids yesterday, and today we were told he 
needed a blood transfusion (or two) and more iv fluids, and then a bone marrow 
test tomorrow.  We were told that the first blood transfusion today was not 
very effective because he got so many iv fluids at the same time, so now they 
are going to give him another transfusion.  As background, we rescued him as a 
stray from Barbados in October 2018 when he was about 6 months old, and he has 
been healthy, active, happy and gaining weight, despite being FELV positive.  
Since October 2018, we cured him of giardia and bartonella henselae.  On 
12/31/2018, he tested positive for the ELISA and IFA, although his blood work 
was in normal ranges at that time.  In 03/2019, we started giving him 1 t-cyte 
shot once per month, and we started giving him 1ml of interferon per days for 7 
days on and then 7 days off, repeated.  We have continued the interferon and 
t-cyte in this manner ever since 03/2019.  Just yesterday, here are the results 
of his blood work that are not in normal range:
AST (SGOT) 106
Glucose 178
CPK 711
WBC 20.5
RBC 2.5
HGB 4.5
HCT 14
NRBC 9
Platelet Count 78
Neutrophils 1640
Lymphocytes 17630
Monocytes 1025
Basophils 205
Protein 2+
Reticulocyte 0.6 and 15000
Would you please let us know what we can do to help our cat?
Thank you, Wendy
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Re: [Felvtalk] Help please - felv positive kitten

2019-03-01 Thread Amani Oakley
Hi Wendy

Sounds like you have everything well under control. I think that the fact that 
he was put on four weeks of Doxy for the Bartonella will also help for FeLV, 
though my sense is that I would have kept him on it for another two weeks.

Just keep an eye for any signs of anemia. Keep checking his gums, the inside of 
his ears and his pads. You say his blood work is perfect. Are his reticulocytes 
okay? These are immature red blood cells and they will be depressed with FeLV. 
As long as his haematocrit, haemoglobin and reticulocyte counts are good, you 
are fine.

Amani

-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk  On Behalf Of Mrs MCSE
Sent: March 1, 2019 1:14 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Help please - felv positive kitten

Hello,

We rescued a stray kitten, and he is felv positive.  He is approximately 9 
months old.  He is quarantined.  His blood work is perfect.  He is not 
exhibiting any other felv symptoms.  We treated him for giardia, and tests show 
he is cured of that.  We treated him with doxycycline for 4 weeks for 
bartonella, and he is due to get retested for bartonella at the end of this 
month.  We are giving him rx zyme, rx biotic, and rx essentials in the morning, 
and 1/2 moducare vet in the evening.  We also are giving him organic grain free 
food.

Can anyone recommend a vet who specializes in felv treatment in Ventura County, 
CA, in Southern California, or elsewhere in California?  I called UC Davis, as 
we’d be willing to take our cat to Northern California, but no one has returned 
the calls.  Our local vet admittedly does not treat felv, and we want the best 
for our little cat.  From reading in this group, it seems that our vet is not 
on top of all of the tests and what those results mean.

Also, can anyone recommend any other treatments that we should add or change at 
this point?

Thank you,

Wendy
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[Felvtalk] Help please - felv positive kitten

2019-02-28 Thread Mrs MCSE
Hello,

We rescued a stray kitten, and he is felv positive.  He is approximately 9 
months old.  He is quarantined.  His blood work is perfect.  He is not 
exhibiting any other felv symptoms.  We treated him for giardia, and tests show 
he is cured of that.  We treated him with doxycycline for 4 weeks for 
bartonella, and he is due to get retested for bartonella at the end of this 
month.  We are giving him rx zyme, rx biotic, and rx essentials in the morning, 
and 1/2 moducare vet in the evening.  We also are giving him organic grain free 
food.

Can anyone recommend a vet who specializes in felv treatment in Ventura County, 
CA, in Southern California, or elsewhere in California?  I called UC Davis, as 
we’d be willing to take our cat to Northern California, but no one has returned 
the calls.  Our local vet admittedly does not treat felv, and we want the best 
for our little cat.  From reading in this group, it seems that our vet is not 
on top of all of the tests and what those results mean.

Also, can anyone recommend any other treatments that we should add or change at 
this point?

Thank you,

Wendy
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[Felvtalk] Little Maynard-update plus Lactoferrin questions-please help

2018-04-26 Thread mirna m
Maynard is doing a lot better. We switched him back to Baytril which he gets 
orally now and everything is ok, no seizures and his overall condition started 
to improve-he is still coughing a bit and occasionally sneezes, but his apetite 
is enormous, his eyes cleared out and he wants to play now!:) His control 
checkup is tomorrow.

I give him Impromune (colostrum nucleotides plus shiitake extract especially 
designed for cats and dogs), but will later switch him to Lactoferrin.

Do you have experience with Lactoferrin and FeLV kitties and what kind?
I see everyone recommends a dose of 40mg per kg and that usually people give a 
dose of 125 mg 2 times a day (for bigger kitties).
Maynard is a bit over 1.5 kg. That dose would then be 60 mg a day. Divided in 
two doses, 30 mg in the morning and 30 mg in the evening?
Any insight on Lactoferrin and FeLV cats is much appreciated, and especially an 
impact on bloodwork,WBC, RBC, virus load and so on (as I have found studies on 
FIV but not FelV cats).

Thank you all!
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Re: [Felvtalk] Immunoregolin or Lymphocyte T-cell immunomodulator - help

2017-11-06 Thread dlgegg
Times like this I would like to be able to just slug them without suffering the 
consequences.
Maybe they should get their ears washed out and their minds opened up.

 Amani Oakley <aoak...@oakleylegal.com> wrote: 
> Totally irate. It was just so clear that they weren't prepared to look at 
> Winstrol in a new light - even with me holding a stack of serial weekly lab 
> results in my hand. 
> 
> Amani
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Ardy 
> Robertson
> Sent: November-04-17 7:43 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Immunoregolin or Lymphocyte T-cell immunomodulator - 
> help
> 
> Amani - you must have been irate when they said well maybe it wasn't FeLV in 
> the first place -- after they repeatedly told you to put Zander 
> down.ardy
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
> Amani Oakley
> Sent: Thursday, November 2, 2017 10:04 AM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Immunoregolin or Lymphocyte T-cell immunomodulator - 
> help
> 
> Hi Ken
> 
> I couldn’t agree with you more, but I fear that the scientific/medical 
> evidence is thin because of the really stupid study done a decade ago, which 
> gave three cats massive doses of Winstrol (same levels as given to sled dogs) 
> and reported the resulting elevation of liver enzymes. And then, of course, 
> there is the unhelpful connection to the athletic doping scandals. Studies 
> looking into the effects of Winstrol are therefore few and far between 
> (though I have found a few). Moreover, a physician friend of mine explained 
> to me that once a drug is off-patent (as Winstrol is) then the drug companies 
> can make very little money from it, and so they will not spend money to set 
> up clinical trials, and will instead push other related drugs that are still 
> covered by a patent, so they make more money on the sale of those other drugs.
> 
> The problem is that, as far as I can determine to date, though there are lots 
> of anabolic steroids, Winstrol is the only one that seems to have this effect 
> on bone marrow to cause it to grow, create new cells, regenerate, etc, which 
> in turn causes the production of red cells, white cells and platelets from 
> the activated bone marrow. In addition, Winstrol is considered to have very 
> mild side effects in comparison to other anabolic steroids. Winstrol is also 
> found to be very quickly effective. Most of those athletes who will speak 
> about steroid use, confirm that Winstrol is one of the most effective and 
> safest of the drugs (and remember that athletes who are using steroids use 
> them at hundreds if not thousands of times the recommended doses, and they 
> "stack" them will all sorts of other steroids).
> 
> I also found, with my own vets, that even with solid proof in front of their 
> own eyes (with cats condemned to death, showing an amazing recovery), they 
> will often look for other explanations other than that it was the Winstrol. 
> As I mentioned with my little Zander, after being told by every vet I spoke 
> with that there was nothing I could do and Zander was going to die (and best 
> to put him down immediately), and being able to show serial blood results 
> weekly which showed a clear improvement from critical haematology values to 
> normal results, at the end of it all, I start hearing things like, "well 
> maybe it was never FeLV in the first place".
> 
> I agree that the way to start turning this around, for all of us who have had 
> good results or who may have a cat in the unenviable situation of having 
> little or no other options, is to speak with our vets about Winstrol. As I 
> have mentioned in previous posts, I have now used Winstrol, usually in 
> combination with at least the prednisone (with the doxycycline being added on 
> in circumstances involving something likely infectious), for a range of cat 
> problems and have had excellent results every time but once. One case was a 
> 16 year old cat with a nasal sarcoma (kept the sarcoma from causing severe 
> facial swelling, and kept my cat eating for another two years); one case was 
> a cat who came from a feral colony which I later found out had had FIV 
> rampaging through it and killing all the cats (and she came to me EXTREMELY 
> ill with a sky-high fever, tympanic abdomen and fluid around her lungs - she 
> survived when I thought there was no hope at all, and she's still with me 
> now); I have used it to avoid knee surgery for Zander when he pulled his 
> cruciate ligament; and am I currently using it now to treat a spinal

Re: [Felvtalk] Immunoregolin or Lymphocyte T-cell immunomodulator - help

2017-11-06 Thread Amani Oakley
Close Ardy - Stanozolol.

Amani

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From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Ardy 
Robertson
Sent: November-04-17 7:28 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Immunoregolin or Lymphocyte T-cell immunomodulator - 
help

Hi Marlene - I am so interested to hear about his treatment, very excited that 
they use it for FeLV treatment, how wonderful. I hope sincerely that they use 
it in conjunction with Doxycyclene and Prednisolone. I personally used the 
liquid form of Winstrol (it's other name here is Stanizolol I think - is this 
correct Amani?). But I believe Amani used the pills. The reason I went with 
oral liquid form is because Tigger took liquid easier than pills and it came in 
"his favorite" salmon flavor!

Best of luck to you with the treatment of your little friend.
Ardy


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marlene melpignano
Sent: Thursday, November 2, 2017 5:04 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Immunoregolin or Lymphocyte T-cell immunomodulator - 
help

Dear all,
Good news: Winstrol is legal in Italy for animals and is called stargate. I 
found a pharmacist who can send it to me in Belgium or I will go to Rome myself 
on Saturday, he also said it is highly used in Italy for felv cats.
What is better, pills or injections? 
I thought of pills to cause less stress, but I read it may be more toxic for 
the liver compared to the injectable one .
I am also bringing the cat to a French specialised clinic this afternoon just 
to  get a better opinion than the Belgian one.

Thanks all for your support.
Best
M

Inviato da iPhone

> Il giorno 02 nov 2017, alle ore 05:28, Ardy Robertson <ar...@centurytel.net> 
> ha scritto:
> 
> Marlene - My Tigger had an active leukemia when I began Winstrol, based on 
> his bloodwork. and he also was not eating. I gave him an appetite 
> stimulant called Mirtazapine, only a half of a 7.5 mg tablet, every 3rd day, 
> and that boosted his appetite. I also fed him the canned cat food that they 
> sell for after surgeries - it is very calorie dense but I don't remember the 
> name of it. Sometimes I had to clip a towel around him and syringe feed him a 
> little. I did not want to do that because he didn't like having me do that, 
> but I made up my mind that if was going to make it, he had to have some food 
> in him. I believe Amani knows the name of another good appetite stimulant. 
> When he would not drink any water, I gave him clam juice (we called it his 
> kitty cocktail)- he loved it. It is just shameful that Winstrol is not legal 
> for this use - they hold a grudge against it because of the misuse of it by a 
> few athletes. So our kitties have to suffer without the one thing that can 
> help them. It is also important to combine it with the Prednisolone and the 
> Doxycyclene because the Doxy has some property whereby it prevents the virus 
> from replicating. Best of luck with his treatment!!
> 
> Ardy
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
> dlg...@windstream.net
> Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2017 1:47 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Immunoregolin or Lymphocyte T-cell immunomodulator - 
> help
> 
> Don't apologize for questions, that is one way we learn.  I have had no 
> problems, but am sure Amani and others do have answers for you
> 
>  marlene melpignano <marl...@hotmail.com> wrote: 
>> Dear All,
>> Unfortunately last FNA of my cat showed that he has either a lymphoma or a 
>> leukemia (in Belgium they are so bad that they cannot even have a conclusive 
>> result). 
>> My vet in Italy thinks I have to bring him to a university clinic to have a 
>> bone marrow exam, in order to decide whether a chemotherapy is worth while.
>> 
>> Have you had any experience with lymphoma or leukemia in Felv cats? Have you 
>> treated them or would be desperate and painful for the cat?
>> 
>> About Winstrol, the two vets were not against it, but it is illegal in 
>> Europe and they would give me something similar in case I decide not to go 
>> for chemotherapy. However, they would like to know whether your cats had 
>> already a lymphoma or leukemia when you used it or were just Felv + and also 
>> whether they had infections going on; otherwise they doubt about using 
>> doxycycline.
>> 
>> Sorry for all the questions, but I am afraid there is not much to be done, 
>> and if I want to make it a last try I have to be fast. As of today he is not 
>> eating ... 
>> 
>> Thanks for your help 
>> Marlène  
>> 
>> 
>> Inviato 

Re: [Felvtalk] Immunoregolin or Lymphocyte T-cell immunomodulator - help

2017-11-06 Thread Amani Oakley
Totally irate. It was just so clear that they weren't prepared to look at 
Winstrol in a new light - even with me holding a stack of serial weekly lab 
results in my hand. 

Amani



-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Ardy 
Robertson
Sent: November-04-17 7:43 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Immunoregolin or Lymphocyte T-cell immunomodulator - 
help

Amani - you must have been irate when they said well maybe it wasn't FeLV in 
the first place -- after they repeatedly told you to put Zander 
down.ardy


-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amani 
Oakley
Sent: Thursday, November 2, 2017 10:04 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Immunoregolin or Lymphocyte T-cell immunomodulator - 
help

Hi Ken

I couldn’t agree with you more, but I fear that the scientific/medical evidence 
is thin because of the really stupid study done a decade ago, which gave three 
cats massive doses of Winstrol (same levels as given to sled dogs) and reported 
the resulting elevation of liver enzymes. And then, of course, there is the 
unhelpful connection to the athletic doping scandals. Studies looking into the 
effects of Winstrol are therefore few and far between (though I have found a 
few). Moreover, a physician friend of mine explained to me that once a drug is 
off-patent (as Winstrol is) then the drug companies can make very little money 
from it, and so they will not spend money to set up clinical trials, and will 
instead push other related drugs that are still covered by a patent, so they 
make more money on the sale of those other drugs.

The problem is that, as far as I can determine to date, though there are lots 
of anabolic steroids, Winstrol is the only one that seems to have this effect 
on bone marrow to cause it to grow, create new cells, regenerate, etc, which in 
turn causes the production of red cells, white cells and platelets from the 
activated bone marrow. In addition, Winstrol is considered to have very mild 
side effects in comparison to other anabolic steroids. Winstrol is also found 
to be very quickly effective. Most of those athletes who will speak about 
steroid use, confirm that Winstrol is one of the most effective and safest of 
the drugs (and remember that athletes who are using steroids use them at 
hundreds if not thousands of times the recommended doses, and they "stack" them 
will all sorts of other steroids).

I also found, with my own vets, that even with solid proof in front of their 
own eyes (with cats condemned to death, showing an amazing recovery), they will 
often look for other explanations other than that it was the Winstrol. As I 
mentioned with my little Zander, after being told by every vet I spoke with 
that there was nothing I could do and Zander was going to die (and best to put 
him down immediately), and being able to show serial blood results weekly which 
showed a clear improvement from critical haematology values to normal results, 
at the end of it all, I start hearing things like, "well maybe it was never 
FeLV in the first place".

I agree that the way to start turning this around, for all of us who have had 
good results or who may have a cat in the unenviable situation of having little 
or no other options, is to speak with our vets about Winstrol. As I have 
mentioned in previous posts, I have now used Winstrol, usually in combination 
with at least the prednisone (with the doxycycline being added on in 
circumstances involving something likely infectious), for a range of cat 
problems and have had excellent results every time but once. One case was a 16 
year old cat with a nasal sarcoma (kept the sarcoma from causing severe facial 
swelling, and kept my cat eating for another two years); one case was a cat who 
came from a feral colony which I later found out had had FIV rampaging through 
it and killing all the cats (and she came to me EXTREMELY ill with a sky-high 
fever, tympanic abdomen and fluid around her lungs - she survived when I 
thought there was no hope at all, and she's still with me now); I have used it 
to avoid knee surgery for Zander when he pulled his cruciate ligament; and am I 
currently using it now to treat a spinal lesion in Pippin - a three-year old 
who gets flair-ups of neurological problems which I tracked to a spinal lesion, 
and when the lesion causes swelling, etc., the symptoms reappear. The 
combination of prednisone and Winstrol appears to be the only thing that 
reverses the effects of the lesion. 

I think the Winstrol is seriously underutilized and cats respond very well to 
it, in a number of circumstances. Obviously, it is not a cure-all, and we've 
heard from other folks who've tried it and gotten no appreciable results, so I 
am not suggesting it is a panacea by any means. Further, I understand that FeLV 
is now 

Re: [Felvtalk] Immunoregolin or Lymphocyte T-cell immunomodulator - help

2017-11-04 Thread Ardy Robertson
Amani - you must have been irate when they said well maybe it wasn't FeLV in 
the first place -- after they repeatedly told you to put Zander 
down.ardy


-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amani 
Oakley
Sent: Thursday, November 2, 2017 10:04 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Immunoregolin or Lymphocyte T-cell immunomodulator - 
help

Hi Ken

I couldn’t agree with you more, but I fear that the scientific/medical evidence 
is thin because of the really stupid study done a decade ago, which gave three 
cats massive doses of Winstrol (same levels as given to sled dogs) and reported 
the resulting elevation of liver enzymes. And then, of course, there is the 
unhelpful connection to the athletic doping scandals. Studies looking into the 
effects of Winstrol are therefore few and far between (though I have found a 
few). Moreover, a physician friend of mine explained to me that once a drug is 
off-patent (as Winstrol is) then the drug companies can make very little money 
from it, and so they will not spend money to set up clinical trials, and will 
instead push other related drugs that are still covered by a patent, so they 
make more money on the sale of those other drugs.

The problem is that, as far as I can determine to date, though there are lots 
of anabolic steroids, Winstrol is the only one that seems to have this effect 
on bone marrow to cause it to grow, create new cells, regenerate, etc, which in 
turn causes the production of red cells, white cells and platelets from the 
activated bone marrow. In addition, Winstrol is considered to have very mild 
side effects in comparison to other anabolic steroids. Winstrol is also found 
to be very quickly effective. Most of those athletes who will speak about 
steroid use, confirm that Winstrol is one of the most effective and safest of 
the drugs (and remember that athletes who are using steroids use them at 
hundreds if not thousands of times the recommended doses, and they "stack" them 
will all sorts of other steroids).

I also found, with my own vets, that even with solid proof in front of their 
own eyes (with cats condemned to death, showing an amazing recovery), they will 
often look for other explanations other than that it was the Winstrol. As I 
mentioned with my little Zander, after being told by every vet I spoke with 
that there was nothing I could do and Zander was going to die (and best to put 
him down immediately), and being able to show serial blood results weekly which 
showed a clear improvement from critical haematology values to normal results, 
at the end of it all, I start hearing things like, "well maybe it was never 
FeLV in the first place".

I agree that the way to start turning this around, for all of us who have had 
good results or who may have a cat in the unenviable situation of having little 
or no other options, is to speak with our vets about Winstrol. As I have 
mentioned in previous posts, I have now used Winstrol, usually in combination 
with at least the prednisone (with the doxycycline being added on in 
circumstances involving something likely infectious), for a range of cat 
problems and have had excellent results every time but once. One case was a 16 
year old cat with a nasal sarcoma (kept the sarcoma from causing severe facial 
swelling, and kept my cat eating for another two years); one case was a cat who 
came from a feral colony which I later found out had had FIV rampaging through 
it and killing all the cats (and she came to me EXTREMELY ill with a sky-high 
fever, tympanic abdomen and fluid around her lungs - she survived when I 
thought there was no hope at all, and she's still with me now); I have used it 
to avoid knee surgery for Zander when he pulled his cruciate ligament; and am I 
currently using it now to treat a spinal lesion in Pippin - a three-year old 
who gets flair-ups of neurological problems which I tracked to a spinal lesion, 
and when the lesion causes swelling, etc., the symptoms reappear. The 
combination of prednisone and Winstrol appears to be the only thing that 
reverses the effects of the lesion. 

I think the Winstrol is seriously underutilized and cats respond very well to 
it, in a number of circumstances. Obviously, it is not a cure-all, and we've 
heard from other folks who've tried it and gotten no appreciable results, so I 
am not suggesting it is a panacea by any means. Further, I understand that FeLV 
is now thought to be caused by at least four or five different types or strains 
of virus, and I believe that this is the reason that some people get amazing 
results and some people see nothing.

Hopefully, Marlene will get a good response, and it is very heartening to hear 
that in Italy, the drug is commonly used to treat FeLV cats. It was commonly 
used in North America as well, in the '80's and '90's, until the stupid doping 
scandals (especially Ben Jo

Re: [Felvtalk] Immunoregolin or Lymphocyte T-cell immunomodulator - help

2017-11-04 Thread Ardy Robertson
I totally agree - and as I said, I just hope they are also using it with Doxy 
and Prednisolone  I am very interested in their results. Do we have any 
way of finding out?

Thanks,
Ardy


-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amani 
Oakley
Sent: Thursday, November 2, 2017 9:22 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Immunoregolin or Lymphocyte T-cell immunomodulator - 
help

Marlene,

I should really say that I have never used the injectable form but it is 
injected intramuscularly and doesn’t last very long, and will be far less 
convenient to give than the pills. As I mentioned in a previous response, the 
effect on the liver appears to be transitory and fades after the Winstrol is 
discontinued. You might consider an initial intramuscular injection by your 
vet, to give a quick boost to baseline, and then continuing with daily pills.

I am also THRILLED to hear that Winstrol is used regularly in Itally for FeLV. 
Finally, SOMEWHERE that is using a medication that actually shows some promise 
against this hideous virus, and doesn’t appear to be swayed by the highly 
irrelevant athletic doping scandals!

Good luck Marlene and keep us posted.

Amani 

-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
marlene melpignano
Sent: November-02-17 6:04 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Immunoregolin or Lymphocyte T-cell immunomodulator - 
help

Dear all,
Good news: Winstrol is legal in Italy for animals and is called stargate. I 
found a pharmacist who can send it to me in Belgium or I will go to Rome myself 
on Saturday, he also said it is highly used in Italy for felv cats.
What is better, pills or injections? 
I thought of pills to cause less stress, but I read it may be more toxic for 
the liver compared to the injectable one .
I am also bringing the cat to a French specialised clinic this afternoon just 
to  get a better opinion than the Belgian one.

Thanks all for your support.
Best
M

Inviato da iPhone

> Il giorno 02 nov 2017, alle ore 05:28, Ardy Robertson <ar...@centurytel.net> 
> ha scritto:
> 
> Marlene - My Tigger had an active leukemia when I began Winstrol, based on 
> his bloodwork. and he also was not eating. I gave him an appetite 
> stimulant called Mirtazapine, only a half of a 7.5 mg tablet, every 3rd day, 
> and that boosted his appetite. I also fed him the canned cat food that they 
> sell for after surgeries - it is very calorie dense but I don't remember the 
> name of it. Sometimes I had to clip a towel around him and syringe feed him a 
> little. I did not want to do that because he didn't like having me do that, 
> but I made up my mind that if was going to make it, he had to have some food 
> in him. I believe Amani knows the name of another good appetite stimulant. 
> When he would not drink any water, I gave him clam juice (we called it his 
> kitty cocktail)- he loved it. It is just shameful that Winstrol is not legal 
> for this use - they hold a grudge against it because of the misuse of it by a 
> few athletes. So our kitties have to suffer without the one thing that can 
> help them. It is also important to combine it with the Prednisolone and the 
> Doxycyclene because the Doxy has some property whereby it prevents the virus 
> from replicating. Best of luck with his treatment!!
> 
> Ardy
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
> dlg...@windstream.net
> Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2017 1:47 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Immunoregolin or Lymphocyte T-cell immunomodulator - 
> help
> 
> Don't apologize for questions, that is one way we learn.  I have had no 
> problems, but am sure Amani and others do have answers for you
> 
>  marlene melpignano <marl...@hotmail.com> wrote: 
>> Dear All,
>> Unfortunately last FNA of my cat showed that he has either a lymphoma or a 
>> leukemia (in Belgium they are so bad that they cannot even have a conclusive 
>> result). 
>> My vet in Italy thinks I have to bring him to a university clinic to have a 
>> bone marrow exam, in order to decide whether a chemotherapy is worth while.
>> 
>> Have you had any experience with lymphoma or leukemia in Felv cats? Have you 
>> treated them or would be desperate and painful for the cat?
>> 
>> About Winstrol, the two vets were not against it, but it is illegal in 
>> Europe and they would give me something similar in case I decide not to go 
>> for chemotherapy. However, they would like to know whether your cats had 
>> already a lymphoma or leukemia when you used it or were just Felv + and also 
>> whether they had infections going on

Re: [Felvtalk] Immunoregolin or Lymphocyte T-cell immunomodulator - help

2017-11-04 Thread Ardy Robertson
Bless you Ken for doing this - I agree. It was very heartening to hear that 
they are using it in Italy!!

-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
kresch...@mchsi.com
Sent: Thursday, November 2, 2017 9:19 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Immunoregolin or Lymphocyte T-cell immunomodulator - 
help

Good Morningh all--
I've been following the posts to Marlene and others regarding 
Winstrol/Stargate. I began following when my feral-turned-wonderful-domestic 
Tuxedo, Zorro, became ill with FeLV. We tried the Prednisolone route and he 
perked up for a week or so but then just slept more and more as his red count 
bottomed out. I laid next to him as he died and shared that with all of you at 
that time. What I'm writing about now is what we must do for future cats that 
may contract FeLV. I have printed the pertinent information that began with 
Amani and then others regarding Winstrol and Stargate minus any links and email 
addresses. I am taking this info to my Vet and telling her to start her 
research immediately. I will also tell her she could be the first Vet in our 
area to truly treat our kitties with a drug that works. If we all present the 
information we've been sharing we will begin a ground-swell of interest and 
hope.
Ken
- Original Message -
From: dlg...@windstream.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thu, 02 Nov 2017 09:21:32 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Immunoregolin or Lymphocyte T-cell immunomodulator - 
help

Prayers for you and your baby.

 marlene melpignano <marl...@hotmail.com> wrote: 
> Dear all,
> Good news: Winstrol is legal in Italy for animals and is called stargate. I 
> found a pharmacist who can send it to me in Belgium or I will go to Rome 
> myself on Saturday, he also said it is highly used in Italy for felv cats.
> What is better, pills or injections? 
> I thought of pills to cause less stress, but I read it may be more toxic for 
> the liver compared to the injectable one .
> I am also bringing the cat to a French specialised clinic this afternoon just 
> to  get a better opinion than the Belgian one.
> 
> Thanks all for your support.
> Best
> M
> 
> Inviato da iPhone
> 
> > Il giorno 02 nov 2017, alle ore 05:28, Ardy Robertson 
> > <ar...@centurytel.net> ha scritto:
> > 
> > Marlene - My Tigger had an active leukemia when I began Winstrol, based on 
> > his bloodwork. and he also was not eating. I gave him an appetite 
> > stimulant called Mirtazapine, only a half of a 7.5 mg tablet, every 3rd 
> > day, and that boosted his appetite. I also fed him the canned cat food that 
> > they sell for after surgeries - it is very calorie dense but I don't 
> > remember the name of it. Sometimes I had to clip a towel around him and 
> > syringe feed him a little. I did not want to do that because he didn't like 
> > having me do that, but I made up my mind that if was going to make it, he 
> > had to have some food in him. I believe Amani knows the name of another 
> > good appetite stimulant. When he would not drink any water, I gave him clam 
> > juice (we called it his kitty cocktail)- he loved it. It is just shameful 
> > that Winstrol is not legal for this use - they hold a grudge against it 
> > because of the misuse of it by a few athletes. So our kitties have to 
> > suffer without the one thing that can help them. It is also important to 
> > combine it with the Prednisolone and the Doxycyclene because the Doxy has 
> > some property whereby it prevents the virus from replicating. Best of luck 
> > with his treatment!!
> > 
> > Ardy
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
> > dlg...@windstream.net
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2017 1:47 PM
> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Immunoregolin or Lymphocyte T-cell immunomodulator 
> > - help
> > 
> > Don't apologize for questions, that is one way we learn.  I have had no 
> > problems, but am sure Amani and others do have answers for you
> > 
> >  marlene melpignano <marl...@hotmail.com> wrote: 
> >> Dear All,
> >> Unfortunately last FNA of my cat showed that he has either a lymphoma or a 
> >> leukemia (in Belgium they are so bad that they cannot even have a 
> >> conclusive result). 
> >> My vet in Italy thinks I have to bring him to a university clinic to have 
> >> a bone marrow exam, in order to decide whether a chemotherapy is worth 
> >> while.
> >> 
> >> Have you had any experience with lymphoma or leukemia in Felv cats? Have 
> >> you treated

Re: [Felvtalk] Immunoregolin or Lymphocyte T-cell immunomodulator - help

2017-11-04 Thread Ardy Robertson
Hi Marlene - I am so interested to hear about his treatment, very excited that 
they use it for FeLV treatment, how wonderful. I hope sincerely that they use 
it in conjunction with Doxycyclene and Prednisolone. I personally used the 
liquid form of Winstrol (it's other name here is Stanizolol I think - is this 
correct Amani?). But I believe Amani used the pills. The reason I went with 
oral liquid form is because Tigger took liquid easier than pills and it came in 
"his favorite" salmon flavor!

Best of luck to you with the treatment of your little friend.
Ardy


-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
marlene melpignano
Sent: Thursday, November 2, 2017 5:04 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Immunoregolin or Lymphocyte T-cell immunomodulator - 
help

Dear all,
Good news: Winstrol is legal in Italy for animals and is called stargate. I 
found a pharmacist who can send it to me in Belgium or I will go to Rome myself 
on Saturday, he also said it is highly used in Italy for felv cats.
What is better, pills or injections? 
I thought of pills to cause less stress, but I read it may be more toxic for 
the liver compared to the injectable one .
I am also bringing the cat to a French specialised clinic this afternoon just 
to  get a better opinion than the Belgian one.

Thanks all for your support.
Best
M

Inviato da iPhone

> Il giorno 02 nov 2017, alle ore 05:28, Ardy Robertson <ar...@centurytel.net> 
> ha scritto:
> 
> Marlene - My Tigger had an active leukemia when I began Winstrol, based on 
> his bloodwork. and he also was not eating. I gave him an appetite 
> stimulant called Mirtazapine, only a half of a 7.5 mg tablet, every 3rd day, 
> and that boosted his appetite. I also fed him the canned cat food that they 
> sell for after surgeries - it is very calorie dense but I don't remember the 
> name of it. Sometimes I had to clip a towel around him and syringe feed him a 
> little. I did not want to do that because he didn't like having me do that, 
> but I made up my mind that if was going to make it, he had to have some food 
> in him. I believe Amani knows the name of another good appetite stimulant. 
> When he would not drink any water, I gave him clam juice (we called it his 
> kitty cocktail)- he loved it. It is just shameful that Winstrol is not legal 
> for this use - they hold a grudge against it because of the misuse of it by a 
> few athletes. So our kitties have to suffer without the one thing that can 
> help them. It is also important to combine it with the Prednisolone and the 
> Doxycyclene because the Doxy has some property whereby it prevents the virus 
> from replicating. Best of luck with his treatment!!
> 
> Ardy
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
> dlg...@windstream.net
> Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2017 1:47 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Immunoregolin or Lymphocyte T-cell immunomodulator - 
> help
> 
> Don't apologize for questions, that is one way we learn.  I have had no 
> problems, but am sure Amani and others do have answers for you
> 
>  marlene melpignano <marl...@hotmail.com> wrote: 
>> Dear All,
>> Unfortunately last FNA of my cat showed that he has either a lymphoma or a 
>> leukemia (in Belgium they are so bad that they cannot even have a conclusive 
>> result). 
>> My vet in Italy thinks I have to bring him to a university clinic to have a 
>> bone marrow exam, in order to decide whether a chemotherapy is worth while.
>> 
>> Have you had any experience with lymphoma or leukemia in Felv cats? Have you 
>> treated them or would be desperate and painful for the cat?
>> 
>> About Winstrol, the two vets were not against it, but it is illegal in 
>> Europe and they would give me something similar in case I decide not to go 
>> for chemotherapy. However, they would like to know whether your cats had 
>> already a lymphoma or leukemia when you used it or were just Felv + and also 
>> whether they had infections going on; otherwise they doubt about using 
>> doxycycline.
>> 
>> Sorry for all the questions, but I am afraid there is not much to be done, 
>> and if I want to make it a last try I have to be fast. As of today he is not 
>> eating ... 
>> 
>> Thanks for your help 
>> Marlène  
>> 
>> 
>> Inviato da iPhone
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> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Immunoregolin or Lymphocyte T-cell immunomodulator - help

2017-11-03 Thread dlgegg
I also like this.

 Margo <toomanykitti...@earthlink.net> wrote: 
> 
Hi Ken,

  Would you be willing to share your compilation so others could print for 
their Vets, as well? I keep trying to get it all together, but I can't seem to 
be cohesive.

  I think it would be very helpful :)

Thanks, 

Margo



-Original Message-
>From: kresch...@mchsi.com
>Sent: Nov 2, 2017 10:18 AM
>To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Immunoregolin or Lymphocyte T-cell immunomodulator - 
>help
>
>Good Morningh all--
>I've been following the posts to Marlene and others regarding 
>Winstrol/Stargate. I began following when my feral-turned-wonderful-domestic 
>Tuxedo, Zorro, became ill with FeLV. We tried the Prednisolone route and he 
>perked up for a week or so but then just slept more and more as his red count 
>bottomed out. I laid next to him as he died and shared that with all of you at 
>that time. What I'm writing about now is what we must do for future cats that 
>may contract FeLV. I have printed the pertinent information that began with 
>Amani and then others regarding Winstrol and Stargate minus any links and 
>email addresses. I am taking this info to my Vet and telling her to start her 
>research immediately. I will also tell her she could be the first Vet in our 
>area to truly treat our kitties with a drug that works. If we all present the 
>information we've been sharing we will begin a ground-swell of interest and 
>hope.
>Ken
>- Original Message -
>From: dlg...@windstream.net
>To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>Sent: Thu, 02 Nov 2017 09:21:32 -0400 (EDT)
>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Immunoregolin or Lymphocyte T-cell immunomodulator - 
>help
>
>Prayers for you and your baby.
>
> marlene melpignano <marl...@hotmail.com> wrote: 
>> Dear all,
>> Good news: Winstrol is legal in Italy for animals and is called stargate. I 
>> found a pharmacist who can send it to me in Belgium or I will go to Rome 
>> myself on Saturday, he also said it is highly used in Italy for felv cats.
>> What is better, pills or injections? 
>> I thought of pills to cause less stress, but I read it may be more toxic for 
>> the liver compared to the injectable one .
>> I am also bringing the cat to a French specialised clinic this afternoon 
>> just to  get a better opinion than the Belgian one.
>> 
>> Thanks all for your support.
>> Best
>> M
>> 
>> Inviato da iPhone
>> 
>> > Il giorno 02 nov 2017, alle ore 05:28, Ardy Robertson 
>> > <ar...@centurytel.net> ha scritto:
>> > 
>> > Marlene - My Tigger had an active leukemia when I began Winstrol, based on 
>> > his bloodwork. and he also was not eating. I gave him an appetite 
>> > stimulant called Mirtazapine, only a half of a 7.5 mg tablet, every 3rd 
>> > day, and that boosted his appetite. I also fed him the canned cat food 
>> > that they sell for after surgeries - it is very calorie dense but I don't 
>> > remember the name of it. Sometimes I had to clip a towel around him and 
>> > syringe feed him a little. I did not want to do that because he didn't 
>> > like having me do that, but I made up my mind that if was going to make 
>> > it, he had to have some food in him. I believe Amani knows the name of 
>> > another good appetite stimulant. When he would not drink any water, I gave 
>> > him clam juice (we called it his kitty cocktail)- he loved it. It is just 
>> > shameful that Winstrol is not legal for this use - they hold a grudge 
>> > against it because of the misuse of it by a few athletes. So our kitties 
>> > have to suffer without the one thing that can help them. It is also 
>> > important to combine it with the Prednisolone and the Doxycyclene because 
>> > the Doxy has some property whereby it prevents the virus from replicating. 
>> > Best of luck with his treatment!!
>> > 
>> > Ardy
>> > 
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
>> > dlg...@windstream.net
>> > Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2017 1:47 PM
>> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Immunoregolin or Lymphocyte T-cell immunomodulator 
>> > - help
>> > 
>> > Don't apologize for questions, that is one way we learn.  I have had no 
>> > problems, but am sure Amani and others do have answers for you
>> > 
>> >  marlene melpignano <marl...@hotmail.com> wrote: 
>> >> Dear All,
>> >> Unfortunately last FNA of my c

Re: [Felvtalk] Immunoregolin or Lymphocyte T-cell immunomodulator - help

2017-11-03 Thread Margo

Hi Ken,

  Would you be willing to share your compilation so others could print for 
their Vets, as well? I keep trying to get it all together, but I can't seem to 
be cohesive.

  I think it would be very helpful :)

Thanks, 

Margo



-Original Message-
>From: kresch...@mchsi.com
>Sent: Nov 2, 2017 10:18 AM
>To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Immunoregolin or Lymphocyte T-cell immunomodulator - 
>help
>
>Good Morningh all--
>I've been following the posts to Marlene and others regarding 
>Winstrol/Stargate. I began following when my feral-turned-wonderful-domestic 
>Tuxedo, Zorro, became ill with FeLV. We tried the Prednisolone route and he 
>perked up for a week or so but then just slept more and more as his red count 
>bottomed out. I laid next to him as he died and shared that with all of you at 
>that time. What I'm writing about now is what we must do for future cats that 
>may contract FeLV. I have printed the pertinent information that began with 
>Amani and then others regarding Winstrol and Stargate minus any links and 
>email addresses. I am taking this info to my Vet and telling her to start her 
>research immediately. I will also tell her she could be the first Vet in our 
>area to truly treat our kitties with a drug that works. If we all present the 
>information we've been sharing we will begin a ground-swell of interest and 
>hope.
>Ken
>- Original Message -
>From: dlg...@windstream.net
>To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>Sent: Thu, 02 Nov 2017 09:21:32 -0400 (EDT)
>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Immunoregolin or Lymphocyte T-cell immunomodulator - 
>help
>
>Prayers for you and your baby.
>
> marlene melpignano <marl...@hotmail.com> wrote: 
>> Dear all,
>> Good news: Winstrol is legal in Italy for animals and is called stargate. I 
>> found a pharmacist who can send it to me in Belgium or I will go to Rome 
>> myself on Saturday, he also said it is highly used in Italy for felv cats.
>> What is better, pills or injections? 
>> I thought of pills to cause less stress, but I read it may be more toxic for 
>> the liver compared to the injectable one .
>> I am also bringing the cat to a French specialised clinic this afternoon 
>> just to  get a better opinion than the Belgian one.
>> 
>> Thanks all for your support.
>> Best
>> M
>> 
>> Inviato da iPhone
>> 
>> > Il giorno 02 nov 2017, alle ore 05:28, Ardy Robertson 
>> > <ar...@centurytel.net> ha scritto:
>> > 
>> > Marlene - My Tigger had an active leukemia when I began Winstrol, based on 
>> > his bloodwork. and he also was not eating. I gave him an appetite 
>> > stimulant called Mirtazapine, only a half of a 7.5 mg tablet, every 3rd 
>> > day, and that boosted his appetite. I also fed him the canned cat food 
>> > that they sell for after surgeries - it is very calorie dense but I don't 
>> > remember the name of it. Sometimes I had to clip a towel around him and 
>> > syringe feed him a little. I did not want to do that because he didn't 
>> > like having me do that, but I made up my mind that if was going to make 
>> > it, he had to have some food in him. I believe Amani knows the name of 
>> > another good appetite stimulant. When he would not drink any water, I gave 
>> > him clam juice (we called it his kitty cocktail)- he loved it. It is just 
>> > shameful that Winstrol is not legal for this use - they hold a grudge 
>> > against it because of the misuse of it by a few athletes. So our kitties 
>> > have to suffer without the one thing that can help them. It is also 
>> > important to combine it with the Prednisolone and the Doxycyclene because 
>> > the Doxy has some property whereby it prevents the virus from replicating. 
>> > Best of luck with his treatment!!
>> > 
>> > Ardy
>> > 
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
>> > dlg...@windstream.net
>> > Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2017 1:47 PM
>> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Immunoregolin or Lymphocyte T-cell immunomodulator 
>> > - help
>> > 
>> > Don't apologize for questions, that is one way we learn.  I have had no 
>> > problems, but am sure Amani and others do have answers for you
>> > 
>> >  marlene melpignano <marl...@hotmail.com> wrote: 
>> >> Dear All,
>> >> Unfortunately last FNA of my cat showed that he has either a lymphoma or 
>> >> a leukemia (in Belgium

Re: [Felvtalk] Immunoregolin or Lymphocyte T-cell immunomodulator - help

2017-11-02 Thread Amani Oakley
Hi Ken

I couldn’t agree with you more, but I fear that the scientific/medical evidence 
is thin because of the really stupid study done a decade ago, which gave three 
cats massive doses of Winstrol (same levels as given to sled dogs) and reported 
the resulting elevation of liver enzymes. And then, of course, there is the 
unhelpful connection to the athletic doping scandals. Studies looking into the 
effects of Winstrol are therefore few and far between (though I have found a 
few). Moreover, a physician friend of mine explained to me that once a drug is 
off-patent (as Winstrol is) then the drug companies can make very little money 
from it, and so they will not spend money to set up clinical trials, and will 
instead push other related drugs that are still covered by a patent, so they 
make more money on the sale of those other drugs.

The problem is that, as far as I can determine to date, though there are lots 
of anabolic steroids, Winstrol is the only one that seems to have this effect 
on bone marrow to cause it to grow, create new cells, regenerate, etc, which in 
turn causes the production of red cells, white cells and platelets from the 
activated bone marrow. In addition, Winstrol is considered to have very mild 
side effects in comparison to other anabolic steroids. Winstrol is also found 
to be very quickly effective. Most of those athletes who will speak about 
steroid use, confirm that Winstrol is one of the most effective and safest of 
the drugs (and remember that athletes who are using steroids use them at 
hundreds if not thousands of times the recommended doses, and they "stack" them 
will all sorts of other steroids).

I also found, with my own vets, that even with solid proof in front of their 
own eyes (with cats condemned to death, showing an amazing recovery), they will 
often look for other explanations other than that it was the Winstrol. As I 
mentioned with my little Zander, after being told by every vet I spoke with 
that there was nothing I could do and Zander was going to die (and best to put 
him down immediately), and being able to show serial blood results weekly which 
showed a clear improvement from critical haematology values to normal results, 
at the end of it all, I start hearing things like, "well maybe it was never 
FeLV in the first place".

I agree that the way to start turning this around, for all of us who have had 
good results or who may have a cat in the unenviable situation of having little 
or no other options, is to speak with our vets about Winstrol. As I have 
mentioned in previous posts, I have now used Winstrol, usually in combination 
with at least the prednisone (with the doxycycline being added on in 
circumstances involving something likely infectious), for a range of cat 
problems and have had excellent results every time but once. One case was a 16 
year old cat with a nasal sarcoma (kept the sarcoma from causing severe facial 
swelling, and kept my cat eating for another two years); one case was a cat who 
came from a feral colony which I later found out had had FIV rampaging through 
it and killing all the cats (and she came to me EXTREMELY ill with a sky-high 
fever, tympanic abdomen and fluid around her lungs - she survived when I 
thought there was no hope at all, and she's still with me now); I have used it 
to avoid knee surgery for Zander when he pulled his cruciate ligament; and am I 
currently using it now to treat a spinal lesion in Pippin - a three-year old 
who gets flair-ups of neurological problems which I tracked to a spinal lesion, 
and when the lesion causes swelling, etc., the symptoms reappear. The 
combination of prednisone and Winstrol appears to be the only thing that 
reverses the effects of the lesion. 

I think the Winstrol is seriously underutilized and cats respond very well to 
it, in a number of circumstances. Obviously, it is not a cure-all, and we've 
heard from other folks who've tried it and gotten no appreciable results, so I 
am not suggesting it is a panacea by any means. Further, I understand that FeLV 
is now thought to be caused by at least four or five different types or strains 
of virus, and I believe that this is the reason that some people get amazing 
results and some people see nothing.

Hopefully, Marlene will get a good response, and it is very heartening to hear 
that in Italy, the drug is commonly used to treat FeLV cats. It was commonly 
used in North America as well, in the '80's and '90's, until the stupid doping 
scandals (especially Ben Johnson's Olympic gold medal being stripped) shone an 
ugly spotlight on it.

Amani

  

-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
kresch...@mchsi.com
Sent: November-02-17 10:19 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Immunoregolin or Lymphocyte T-cell immunomodulator - 
help

Good Morningh all--
I've been following the posts to Marlene and others regardin

Re: [Felvtalk] Immunoregolin or Lymphocyte T-cell immunomodulator - help

2017-11-02 Thread Amani Oakley
Marlene,

I should really say that I have never used the injectable form but it is 
injected intramuscularly and doesn’t last very long, and will be far less 
convenient to give than the pills. As I mentioned in a previous response, the 
effect on the liver appears to be transitory and fades after the Winstrol is 
discontinued. You might consider an initial intramuscular injection by your 
vet, to give a quick boost to baseline, and then continuing with daily pills.

I am also THRILLED to hear that Winstrol is used regularly in Itally for FeLV. 
Finally, SOMEWHERE that is using a medication that actually shows some promise 
against this hideous virus, and doesn’t appear to be swayed by the highly 
irrelevant athletic doping scandals!

Good luck Marlene and keep us posted.

Amani 

-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
marlene melpignano
Sent: November-02-17 6:04 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Immunoregolin or Lymphocyte T-cell immunomodulator - 
help

Dear all,
Good news: Winstrol is legal in Italy for animals and is called stargate. I 
found a pharmacist who can send it to me in Belgium or I will go to Rome myself 
on Saturday, he also said it is highly used in Italy for felv cats.
What is better, pills or injections? 
I thought of pills to cause less stress, but I read it may be more toxic for 
the liver compared to the injectable one .
I am also bringing the cat to a French specialised clinic this afternoon just 
to  get a better opinion than the Belgian one.

Thanks all for your support.
Best
M

Inviato da iPhone

> Il giorno 02 nov 2017, alle ore 05:28, Ardy Robertson <ar...@centurytel.net> 
> ha scritto:
> 
> Marlene - My Tigger had an active leukemia when I began Winstrol, based on 
> his bloodwork. and he also was not eating. I gave him an appetite 
> stimulant called Mirtazapine, only a half of a 7.5 mg tablet, every 3rd day, 
> and that boosted his appetite. I also fed him the canned cat food that they 
> sell for after surgeries - it is very calorie dense but I don't remember the 
> name of it. Sometimes I had to clip a towel around him and syringe feed him a 
> little. I did not want to do that because he didn't like having me do that, 
> but I made up my mind that if was going to make it, he had to have some food 
> in him. I believe Amani knows the name of another good appetite stimulant. 
> When he would not drink any water, I gave him clam juice (we called it his 
> kitty cocktail)- he loved it. It is just shameful that Winstrol is not legal 
> for this use - they hold a grudge against it because of the misuse of it by a 
> few athletes. So our kitties have to suffer without the one thing that can 
> help them. It is also important to combine it with the Prednisolone and the 
> Doxycyclene because the Doxy has some property whereby it prevents the virus 
> from replicating. Best of luck with his treatment!!
> 
> Ardy
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
> dlg...@windstream.net
> Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2017 1:47 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Immunoregolin or Lymphocyte T-cell immunomodulator - 
> help
> 
> Don't apologize for questions, that is one way we learn.  I have had no 
> problems, but am sure Amani and others do have answers for you
> 
>  marlene melpignano <marl...@hotmail.com> wrote: 
>> Dear All,
>> Unfortunately last FNA of my cat showed that he has either a lymphoma or a 
>> leukemia (in Belgium they are so bad that they cannot even have a conclusive 
>> result). 
>> My vet in Italy thinks I have to bring him to a university clinic to have a 
>> bone marrow exam, in order to decide whether a chemotherapy is worth while.
>> 
>> Have you had any experience with lymphoma or leukemia in Felv cats? Have you 
>> treated them or would be desperate and painful for the cat?
>> 
>> About Winstrol, the two vets were not against it, but it is illegal in 
>> Europe and they would give me something similar in case I decide not to go 
>> for chemotherapy. However, they would like to know whether your cats had 
>> already a lymphoma or leukemia when you used it or were just Felv + and also 
>> whether they had infections going on; otherwise they doubt about using 
>> doxycycline.
>> 
>> Sorry for all the questions, but I am afraid there is not much to be done, 
>> and if I want to make it a last try I have to be fast. As of today he is not 
>> eating ... 
>> 
>> Thanks for your help 
>> Marlène  
>> 
>> 
>> Inviato da iPhone
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Re: [Felvtalk] Immunoregolin or Lymphocyte T-cell immunomodulator - help

2017-11-02 Thread kresch831
Good Morningh all--
I've been following the posts to Marlene and others regarding 
Winstrol/Stargate. I began following when my feral-turned-wonderful-domestic 
Tuxedo, Zorro, became ill with FeLV. We tried the Prednisolone route and he 
perked up for a week or so but then just slept more and more as his red count 
bottomed out. I laid next to him as he died and shared that with all of you at 
that time. What I'm writing about now is what we must do for future cats that 
may contract FeLV. I have printed the pertinent information that began with 
Amani and then others regarding Winstrol and Stargate minus any links and email 
addresses. I am taking this info to my Vet and telling her to start her 
research immediately. I will also tell her she could be the first Vet in our 
area to truly treat our kitties with a drug that works. If we all present the 
information we've been sharing we will begin a ground-swell of interest and 
hope.
Ken
- Original Message -
From: dlg...@windstream.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thu, 02 Nov 2017 09:21:32 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Immunoregolin or Lymphocyte T-cell immunomodulator - 
help

Prayers for you and your baby.

 marlene melpignano <marl...@hotmail.com> wrote: 
> Dear all,
> Good news: Winstrol is legal in Italy for animals and is called stargate. I 
> found a pharmacist who can send it to me in Belgium or I will go to Rome 
> myself on Saturday, he also said it is highly used in Italy for felv cats.
> What is better, pills or injections? 
> I thought of pills to cause less stress, but I read it may be more toxic for 
> the liver compared to the injectable one .
> I am also bringing the cat to a French specialised clinic this afternoon just 
> to  get a better opinion than the Belgian one.
> 
> Thanks all for your support.
> Best
> M
> 
> Inviato da iPhone
> 
> > Il giorno 02 nov 2017, alle ore 05:28, Ardy Robertson 
> > <ar...@centurytel.net> ha scritto:
> > 
> > Marlene - My Tigger had an active leukemia when I began Winstrol, based on 
> > his bloodwork. and he also was not eating. I gave him an appetite 
> > stimulant called Mirtazapine, only a half of a 7.5 mg tablet, every 3rd 
> > day, and that boosted his appetite. I also fed him the canned cat food that 
> > they sell for after surgeries - it is very calorie dense but I don't 
> > remember the name of it. Sometimes I had to clip a towel around him and 
> > syringe feed him a little. I did not want to do that because he didn't like 
> > having me do that, but I made up my mind that if was going to make it, he 
> > had to have some food in him. I believe Amani knows the name of another 
> > good appetite stimulant. When he would not drink any water, I gave him clam 
> > juice (we called it his kitty cocktail)- he loved it. It is just shameful 
> > that Winstrol is not legal for this use - they hold a grudge against it 
> > because of the misuse of it by a few athletes. So our kitties have to 
> > suffer without the one thing that can help them. It is also important to 
> > combine it with the Prednisolone and the Doxycyclene because the Doxy has 
> > some property whereby it prevents the virus from replicating. Best of luck 
> > with his treatment!!
> > 
> > Ardy
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
> > dlg...@windstream.net
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2017 1:47 PM
> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Immunoregolin or Lymphocyte T-cell immunomodulator 
> > - help
> > 
> > Don't apologize for questions, that is one way we learn.  I have had no 
> > problems, but am sure Amani and others do have answers for you
> > 
> >  marlene melpignano <marl...@hotmail.com> wrote: 
> >> Dear All,
> >> Unfortunately last FNA of my cat showed that he has either a lymphoma or a 
> >> leukemia (in Belgium they are so bad that they cannot even have a 
> >> conclusive result). 
> >> My vet in Italy thinks I have to bring him to a university clinic to have 
> >> a bone marrow exam, in order to decide whether a chemotherapy is worth 
> >> while.
> >> 
> >> Have you had any experience with lymphoma or leukemia in Felv cats? Have 
> >> you treated them or would be desperate and painful for the cat?
> >> 
> >> About Winstrol, the two vets were not against it, but it is illegal in 
> >> Europe and they would give me something similar in case I decide not to go 
> >> for chemotherapy. However, they would like to know whether your cats had 
> >> already a lymphoma or leukemia 

Re: [Felvtalk] Immunoregolin or Lymphocyte T-cell immunomodulator - help

2017-11-02 Thread Amani Oakley
Pills. 

Amani

-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
marlene melpignano
Sent: November-02-17 6:04 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Immunoregolin or Lymphocyte T-cell immunomodulator - 
help

Dear all,
Good news: Winstrol is legal in Italy for animals and is called stargate. I 
found a pharmacist who can send it to me in Belgium or I will go to Rome myself 
on Saturday, he also said it is highly used in Italy for felv cats.
What is better, pills or injections? 
I thought of pills to cause less stress, but I read it may be more toxic for 
the liver compared to the injectable one .
I am also bringing the cat to a French specialised clinic this afternoon just 
to  get a better opinion than the Belgian one.

Thanks all for your support.
Best
M

Inviato da iPhone

> Il giorno 02 nov 2017, alle ore 05:28, Ardy Robertson <ar...@centurytel.net> 
> ha scritto:
> 
> Marlene - My Tigger had an active leukemia when I began Winstrol, based on 
> his bloodwork. and he also was not eating. I gave him an appetite 
> stimulant called Mirtazapine, only a half of a 7.5 mg tablet, every 3rd day, 
> and that boosted his appetite. I also fed him the canned cat food that they 
> sell for after surgeries - it is very calorie dense but I don't remember the 
> name of it. Sometimes I had to clip a towel around him and syringe feed him a 
> little. I did not want to do that because he didn't like having me do that, 
> but I made up my mind that if was going to make it, he had to have some food 
> in him. I believe Amani knows the name of another good appetite stimulant. 
> When he would not drink any water, I gave him clam juice (we called it his 
> kitty cocktail)- he loved it. It is just shameful that Winstrol is not legal 
> for this use - they hold a grudge against it because of the misuse of it by a 
> few athletes. So our kitties have to suffer without the one thing that can 
> help them. It is also important to combine it with the Prednisolone and the 
> Doxycyclene because the Doxy has some property whereby it prevents the virus 
> from replicating. Best of luck with his treatment!!
> 
> Ardy
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
> dlg...@windstream.net
> Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2017 1:47 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Immunoregolin or Lymphocyte T-cell immunomodulator - 
> help
> 
> Don't apologize for questions, that is one way we learn.  I have had no 
> problems, but am sure Amani and others do have answers for you
> 
>  marlene melpignano <marl...@hotmail.com> wrote: 
>> Dear All,
>> Unfortunately last FNA of my cat showed that he has either a lymphoma or a 
>> leukemia (in Belgium they are so bad that they cannot even have a conclusive 
>> result). 
>> My vet in Italy thinks I have to bring him to a university clinic to have a 
>> bone marrow exam, in order to decide whether a chemotherapy is worth while.
>> 
>> Have you had any experience with lymphoma or leukemia in Felv cats? Have you 
>> treated them or would be desperate and painful for the cat?
>> 
>> About Winstrol, the two vets were not against it, but it is illegal in 
>> Europe and they would give me something similar in case I decide not to go 
>> for chemotherapy. However, they would like to know whether your cats had 
>> already a lymphoma or leukemia when you used it or were just Felv + and also 
>> whether they had infections going on; otherwise they doubt about using 
>> doxycycline.
>> 
>> Sorry for all the questions, but I am afraid there is not much to be done, 
>> and if I want to make it a last try I have to be fast. As of today he is not 
>> eating ... 
>> 
>> Thanks for your help 
>> Marlène  
>> 
>> 
>> Inviato da iPhone
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2017-11-02 Thread dlgegg
Prayers for you and your baby.

 marlene melpignano <marl...@hotmail.com> wrote: 
> Dear all,
> Good news: Winstrol is legal in Italy for animals and is called stargate. I 
> found a pharmacist who can send it to me in Belgium or I will go to Rome 
> myself on Saturday, he also said it is highly used in Italy for felv cats.
> What is better, pills or injections? 
> I thought of pills to cause less stress, but I read it may be more toxic for 
> the liver compared to the injectable one .
> I am also bringing the cat to a French specialised clinic this afternoon just 
> to  get a better opinion than the Belgian one.
> 
> Thanks all for your support.
> Best
> M
> 
> Inviato da iPhone
> 
> > Il giorno 02 nov 2017, alle ore 05:28, Ardy Robertson 
> > <ar...@centurytel.net> ha scritto:
> > 
> > Marlene - My Tigger had an active leukemia when I began Winstrol, based on 
> > his bloodwork. and he also was not eating. I gave him an appetite 
> > stimulant called Mirtazapine, only a half of a 7.5 mg tablet, every 3rd 
> > day, and that boosted his appetite. I also fed him the canned cat food that 
> > they sell for after surgeries - it is very calorie dense but I don't 
> > remember the name of it. Sometimes I had to clip a towel around him and 
> > syringe feed him a little. I did not want to do that because he didn't like 
> > having me do that, but I made up my mind that if was going to make it, he 
> > had to have some food in him. I believe Amani knows the name of another 
> > good appetite stimulant. When he would not drink any water, I gave him clam 
> > juice (we called it his kitty cocktail)- he loved it. It is just shameful 
> > that Winstrol is not legal for this use - they hold a grudge against it 
> > because of the misuse of it by a few athletes. So our kitties have to 
> > suffer without the one thing that can help them. It is also important to 
> > combine it with the Prednisolone and the Doxycyclene because the Doxy has 
> > some property whereby it prevents the virus from replicating. Best of luck 
> > with his treatment!!
> > 
> > Ardy
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
> > dlg...@windstream.net
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2017 1:47 PM
> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Immunoregolin or Lymphocyte T-cell immunomodulator 
> > - help
> > 
> > Don't apologize for questions, that is one way we learn.  I have had no 
> > problems, but am sure Amani and others do have answers for you
> > 
> >  marlene melpignano <marl...@hotmail.com> wrote: 
> >> Dear All,
> >> Unfortunately last FNA of my cat showed that he has either a lymphoma or a 
> >> leukemia (in Belgium they are so bad that they cannot even have a 
> >> conclusive result). 
> >> My vet in Italy thinks I have to bring him to a university clinic to have 
> >> a bone marrow exam, in order to decide whether a chemotherapy is worth 
> >> while.
> >> 
> >> Have you had any experience with lymphoma or leukemia in Felv cats? Have 
> >> you treated them or would be desperate and painful for the cat?
> >> 
> >> About Winstrol, the two vets were not against it, but it is illegal in 
> >> Europe and they would give me something similar in case I decide not to go 
> >> for chemotherapy. However, they would like to know whether your cats had 
> >> already a lymphoma or leukemia when you used it or were just Felv + and 
> >> also whether they had infections going on; otherwise they doubt about 
> >> using doxycycline.
> >> 
> >> Sorry for all the questions, but I am afraid there is not much to be done, 
> >> and if I want to make it a last try I have to be fast. As of today he is 
> >> not eating ... 
> >> 
> >> Thanks for your help 
> >> Marlène  
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Inviato da iPhone
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Re: [Felvtalk] Immunoregolin or Lymphocyte T-cell immunomodulator - help

2017-11-02 Thread marlene melpignano
Dear all,
Good news: Winstrol is legal in Italy for animals and is called stargate. I 
found a pharmacist who can send it to me in Belgium or I will go to Rome myself 
on Saturday, he also said it is highly used in Italy for felv cats.
What is better, pills or injections? 
I thought of pills to cause less stress, but I read it may be more toxic for 
the liver compared to the injectable one .
I am also bringing the cat to a French specialised clinic this afternoon just 
to  get a better opinion than the Belgian one.

Thanks all for your support.
Best
M

Inviato da iPhone

> Il giorno 02 nov 2017, alle ore 05:28, Ardy Robertson <ar...@centurytel.net> 
> ha scritto:
> 
> Marlene - My Tigger had an active leukemia when I began Winstrol, based on 
> his bloodwork. and he also was not eating. I gave him an appetite 
> stimulant called Mirtazapine, only a half of a 7.5 mg tablet, every 3rd day, 
> and that boosted his appetite. I also fed him the canned cat food that they 
> sell for after surgeries - it is very calorie dense but I don't remember the 
> name of it. Sometimes I had to clip a towel around him and syringe feed him a 
> little. I did not want to do that because he didn't like having me do that, 
> but I made up my mind that if was going to make it, he had to have some food 
> in him. I believe Amani knows the name of another good appetite stimulant. 
> When he would not drink any water, I gave him clam juice (we called it his 
> kitty cocktail)- he loved it. It is just shameful that Winstrol is not legal 
> for this use - they hold a grudge against it because of the misuse of it by a 
> few athletes. So our kitties have to suffer without the one thing that can 
> help them. It is also important to combine it with the Prednisolone and the 
> Doxycyclene because the Doxy has some property whereby it prevents the virus 
> from replicating. Best of luck with his treatment!!
> 
> Ardy
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
> dlg...@windstream.net
> Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2017 1:47 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Immunoregolin or Lymphocyte T-cell immunomodulator - 
> help
> 
> Don't apologize for questions, that is one way we learn.  I have had no 
> problems, but am sure Amani and others do have answers for you
> 
>  marlene melpignano <marl...@hotmail.com> wrote: 
>> Dear All,
>> Unfortunately last FNA of my cat showed that he has either a lymphoma or a 
>> leukemia (in Belgium they are so bad that they cannot even have a conclusive 
>> result). 
>> My vet in Italy thinks I have to bring him to a university clinic to have a 
>> bone marrow exam, in order to decide whether a chemotherapy is worth while.
>> 
>> Have you had any experience with lymphoma or leukemia in Felv cats? Have you 
>> treated them or would be desperate and painful for the cat?
>> 
>> About Winstrol, the two vets were not against it, but it is illegal in 
>> Europe and they would give me something similar in case I decide not to go 
>> for chemotherapy. However, they would like to know whether your cats had 
>> already a lymphoma or leukemia when you used it or were just Felv + and also 
>> whether they had infections going on; otherwise they doubt about using 
>> doxycycline.
>> 
>> Sorry for all the questions, but I am afraid there is not much to be done, 
>> and if I want to make it a last try I have to be fast. As of today he is not 
>> eating ... 
>> 
>> Thanks for your help 
>> Marlène  
>> 
>> 
>> Inviato da iPhone
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Re: [Felvtalk] Immunoregolin or Lymphocyte T-cell immunomodulator - help

2017-11-01 Thread Ardy Robertson
Marlene - My Tigger had an active leukemia when I began Winstrol, based on his 
bloodwork. and he also was not eating. I gave him an appetite stimulant 
called Mirtazapine, only a half of a 7.5 mg tablet, every 3rd day, and that 
boosted his appetite. I also fed him the canned cat food that they sell for 
after surgeries - it is very calorie dense but I don't remember the name of it. 
Sometimes I had to clip a towel around him and syringe feed him a little. I did 
not want to do that because he didn't like having me do that, but I made up my 
mind that if was going to make it, he had to have some food in him. I believe 
Amani knows the name of another good appetite stimulant. When he would not 
drink any water, I gave him clam juice (we called it his kitty cocktail)- he 
loved it. It is just shameful that Winstrol is not legal for this use - they 
hold a grudge against it because of the misuse of it by a few athletes. So our 
kitties have to suffer without the one thing that can help them. It is also 
important to combine it with the Prednisolone and the Doxycyclene because the 
Doxy has some property whereby it prevents the virus from replicating. Best of 
luck with his treatment!!

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Don't apologize for questions, that is one way we learn.  I have had no 
problems, but am sure Amani and others do have answers for you

 marlene melpignano <marl...@hotmail.com> wrote: 
> Dear All,
> Unfortunately last FNA of my cat showed that he has either a lymphoma or a 
> leukemia (in Belgium they are so bad that they cannot even have a conclusive 
> result). 
> My vet in Italy thinks I have to bring him to a university clinic to have a 
> bone marrow exam, in order to decide whether a chemotherapy is worth while.
> 
> Have you had any experience with lymphoma or leukemia in Felv cats? Have you 
> treated them or would be desperate and painful for the cat?
> 
> About Winstrol, the two vets were not against it, but it is illegal in Europe 
> and they would give me something similar in case I decide not to go for 
> chemotherapy. However, they would like to know whether your cats had already 
> a lymphoma or leukemia when you used it or were just Felv + and also whether 
> they had infections going on; otherwise they doubt about using doxycycline.
> 
> Sorry for all the questions, but I am afraid there is not much to be done, 
> and if I want to make it a last try I have to be fast. As of today he is not 
> eating ... 
> 
> Thanks for your help 
> Marlène  
> 
> 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Immunoregolin or Lymphocyte T-cell immunomodulator - help

2017-11-01 Thread dlgegg

 Amani Oakley <aoak...@oakleylegal.com> wrote: 
> Marlene
> 
> The suggestion of Winstrol/Doxy/Prednisone has been used repeatedly on cats 
> with leukemia and lymphoma. Also, Winstrol is very helpful when a cat is not 
> eating. Unfortunately, though there are other steroids, I am not certain you 
> will get the same result if you use another steroid in place of the Winstrol. 
> DO NOT USE another antibiotic. Doxycycline interferes with the virus 
> replication and is added on to assist in retarding the reproduction of the 
> virus, to enable the Winstrol and prednisone to have an effect. It is not for 
> a secondary infection. 
> 
> I find it bizarre that, over and over again, vets will dither while a cat is 
> dying. Put the cat on the meds, for goodness sake, and see the response and 
> if there isn’t an appreciable response after a reasonable period of time, 
> look for another option. But don’t have a debate while the cat is declining. 
> What's the worst that could happen? It doesn’t work? What other options are 
> they giving you??? 

  COULD IT BE THAT VETS ARE WORRIED ABOUT LAWSUITS IF ANYTHING GOES WRONG?
> 
> I find it odd that the vets say Winstrol is illegal in Europe. If you go on 
> line, you will see that it can be ordered from places like Germany. 
> 
> If necessary, get your vets to put him on the other steroid, though I really 
> doubt it will assist - Winstrol uniquely causes the turning on of blood cell 
> production in the bone marrow - I don’t think there is another steroid that 
> does this. Then go ahead and order the Winstrol online from Germany or 
> wherever else it can be sourced. But don't wait. The longer you wait, the 
> worse the condition of your cat, thus worsening the chances of anything 
> working.
> 
> Amani
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
> marlene melpignano
> Sent: November-01-17 4:29 AM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Immunoregolin or Lymphocyte T-cell immunomodulator - 
> help
> 
> Dear All,
> Unfortunately last FNA of my cat showed that he has either a lymphoma or a 
> leukemia (in Belgium they are so bad that they cannot even have a conclusive 
> result). 
> My vet in Italy thinks I have to bring him to a university clinic to have a 
> bone marrow exam, in order to decide whether a chemotherapy is worth while.
> 
> Have you had any experience with lymphoma or leukemia in Felv cats? Have you 
> treated them or would be desperate and painful for the cat?
> 
> About Winstrol, the two vets were not against it, but it is illegal in Europe 
> and they would give me something similar in case I decide not to go for 
> chemotherapy. However, they would like to know whether your cats had already 
> a lymphoma or leukemia when you used it or were just Felv + and also whether 
> they had infections going on; otherwise they doubt about using doxycycline.
> 
> Sorry for all the questions, but I am afraid there is not much to be done, 
> and if I want to make it a last try I have to be fast. As of today he is not 
> eating ... 
> 
> Thanks for your help 
> Marlène  
> 
> 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Immunoregolin or Lymphocyte T-cell immunomodulator - help

2017-11-01 Thread dlgegg
Don't apologize for questions, that is one way we learn.  I have had no 
problems, but am sure Amani and others do have answers for you

 marlene melpignano <marl...@hotmail.com> wrote: 
> Dear All,
> Unfortunately last FNA of my cat showed that he has either a lymphoma or a 
> leukemia (in Belgium they are so bad that they cannot even have a conclusive 
> result). 
> My vet in Italy thinks I have to bring him to a university clinic to have a 
> bone marrow exam, in order to decide whether a chemotherapy is worth while.
> 
> Have you had any experience with lymphoma or leukemia in Felv cats? Have you 
> treated them or would be desperate and painful for the cat?
> 
> About Winstrol, the two vets were not against it, but it is illegal in Europe 
> and they would give me something similar in case I decide not to go for 
> chemotherapy. However, they would like to know whether your cats had already 
> a lymphoma or leukemia when you used it or were just Felv + and also whether 
> they had infections going on; otherwise they doubt about using doxycycline.
> 
> Sorry for all the questions, but I am afraid there is not much to be done, 
> and if I want to make it a last try I have to be fast. As of today he is not 
> eating ... 
> 
> Thanks for your help 
> Marlène  
> 
> 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Immunoregolin or Lymphocyte T-cell immunomodulator - help

2017-11-01 Thread Amani Oakley
Marlene

The suggestion of Winstrol/Doxy/Prednisone has been used repeatedly on cats 
with leukemia and lymphoma. Also, Winstrol is very helpful when a cat is not 
eating. Unfortunately, though there are other steroids, I am not certain you 
will get the same result if you use another steroid in place of the Winstrol. 
DO NOT USE another antibiotic. Doxycycline interferes with the virus 
replication and is added on to assist in retarding the reproduction of the 
virus, to enable the Winstrol and prednisone to have an effect. It is not for a 
secondary infection. 

I find it bizarre that, over and over again, vets will dither while a cat is 
dying. Put the cat on the meds, for goodness sake, and see the response and if 
there isn’t an appreciable response after a reasonable period of time, look for 
another option. But don’t have a debate while the cat is declining. What's the 
worst that could happen? It doesn’t work? What other options are they giving 
you??? 

I find it odd that the vets say Winstrol is illegal in Europe. If you go on 
line, you will see that it can be ordered from places like Germany. 

If necessary, get your vets to put him on the other steroid, though I really 
doubt it will assist - Winstrol uniquely causes the turning on of blood cell 
production in the bone marrow - I don’t think there is another steroid that 
does this. Then go ahead and order the Winstrol online from Germany or wherever 
else it can be sourced. But don't wait. The longer you wait, the worse the 
condition of your cat, thus worsening the chances of anything working.

Amani

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From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
marlene melpignano
Sent: November-01-17 4:29 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Immunoregolin or Lymphocyte T-cell immunomodulator - 
help

Dear All,
Unfortunately last FNA of my cat showed that he has either a lymphoma or a 
leukemia (in Belgium they are so bad that they cannot even have a conclusive 
result). 
My vet in Italy thinks I have to bring him to a university clinic to have a 
bone marrow exam, in order to decide whether a chemotherapy is worth while.

Have you had any experience with lymphoma or leukemia in Felv cats? Have you 
treated them or would be desperate and painful for the cat?

About Winstrol, the two vets were not against it, but it is illegal in Europe 
and they would give me something similar in case I decide not to go for 
chemotherapy. However, they would like to know whether your cats had already a 
lymphoma or leukemia when you used it or were just Felv + and also whether they 
had infections going on; otherwise they doubt about using doxycycline.

Sorry for all the questions, but I am afraid there is not much to be done, and 
if I want to make it a last try I have to be fast. As of today he is not eating 
... 

Thanks for your help 
Marlène  


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Re: [Felvtalk] Immunoregolin or Lymphocyte T-cell immunomodulator - help

2017-11-01 Thread marlene melpignano
Dear All,
Unfortunately last FNA of my cat showed that he has either a lymphoma or a 
leukemia (in Belgium they are so bad that they cannot even have a conclusive 
result). 
My vet in Italy thinks I have to bring him to a university clinic to have a 
bone marrow exam, in order to decide whether a chemotherapy is worth while.

Have you had any experience with lymphoma or leukemia in Felv cats? Have you 
treated them or would be desperate and painful for the cat?

About Winstrol, the two vets were not against it, but it is illegal in Europe 
and they would give me something similar in case I decide not to go for 
chemotherapy. However, they would like to know whether your cats had already a 
lymphoma or leukemia when you used it or were just Felv + and also whether they 
had infections going on; otherwise they doubt about using doxycycline.

Sorry for all the questions, but I am afraid there is not much to be done, and 
if I want to make it a last try I have to be fast. As of today he is not eating 
... 

Thanks for your help 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Immunoregolin or Lymphocyte T-cell immunomodulator - help

2017-10-29 Thread dlgegg
I told my vet about the winnstrol treatment and she has agreed to give it a try 
if ever needed, may even try on other cats if owners want it. 

 Ardy Robertson <ar...@centurytel.net> wrote: 
> Hi Marlene,
> I used Interferon with and without Prednisolone on my beloved Tigger
> --nothing happened to improve his bloodwork. ONLY - when I finally found
> a way to get Winstrol and used it according to the way Amani had used it --
> with Prednisolone and Doxycyclene -- did it begin to help Tigger's
> bloodwork. So much so, that the lab re-ran the first bloodtest after using
> Winstrol because they thought there was a mistake, there was that much
> improvement! And by the time I was able to get the Winstrol from a
> compounding pharmacy in Arizona-USA, one called Diamond Back Drugs, his
> blood was flatlining. At that point I don't even know how he could have been
> alive with such low numbers. If you decide to go the route of Winstrol, you
> might be able to find it online by googling Diamond Back Drugs. We in the
> FeLV group have begun calling this treatment "Zander's Protocol" because
> Zander was Amani's beloved kitty who was helped by this treatment. At the
> moment, my four fur-babies are all healthy, but if I ever have another one
> with FeLV, I would treat him with Winstrol.
> 
> My best to you and your kitty,
> Ardy
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
> marlene melpignano
> Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2017 3:07 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Immunoregolin or Lymphocyte T-cell immunomodulator -
> help
> 
> Thanks Kat and Amani for support and suggestions.
> Unfortunately I currently live in Brussels where they have ZERO experience
> on felv cats. As medicaments, in Europe we only have interferon, that I
> cannot use at the same time of prednisone, but without it the anemia
> prevails... in Belgium they proposed me cyclosporine, which is not used at
> all in Italy.
> My Italian vet read about LTCI and thinks we should give it a try, but it's
> very complicated to get it in Europe, and a German veterinary specialised in
> virology told me there are no scientific proofs that immunomodulator are
> effective in Felv.
> And I cannot find anything recent about them in academics articles.. 
> 
> Sorry for bothering, but Europe is hundreds years behind you ... 
> 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Immunoregolin or Lymphocyte T-cell immunomodulator - help

2017-10-29 Thread Ardy Robertson
Hi Marlene,
I used Interferon with and without Prednisolone on my beloved Tigger
--nothing happened to improve his bloodwork. ONLY - when I finally found
a way to get Winstrol and used it according to the way Amani had used it --
with Prednisolone and Doxycyclene -- did it begin to help Tigger's
bloodwork. So much so, that the lab re-ran the first bloodtest after using
Winstrol because they thought there was a mistake, there was that much
improvement! And by the time I was able to get the Winstrol from a
compounding pharmacy in Arizona-USA, one called Diamond Back Drugs, his
blood was flatlining. At that point I don't even know how he could have been
alive with such low numbers. If you decide to go the route of Winstrol, you
might be able to find it online by googling Diamond Back Drugs. We in the
FeLV group have begun calling this treatment "Zander's Protocol" because
Zander was Amani's beloved kitty who was helped by this treatment. At the
moment, my four fur-babies are all healthy, but if I ever have another one
with FeLV, I would treat him with Winstrol.

My best to you and your kitty,
Ardy


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From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
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Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2017 3:07 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Immunoregolin or Lymphocyte T-cell immunomodulator -
help

Thanks Kat and Amani for support and suggestions.
Unfortunately I currently live in Brussels where they have ZERO experience
on felv cats. As medicaments, in Europe we only have interferon, that I
cannot use at the same time of prednisone, but without it the anemia
prevails... in Belgium they proposed me cyclosporine, which is not used at
all in Italy.
My Italian vet read about LTCI and thinks we should give it a try, but it's
very complicated to get it in Europe, and a German veterinary specialised in
virology told me there are no scientific proofs that immunomodulator are
effective in Felv.
And I cannot find anything recent about them in academics articles.. 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Immunoregolin or Lymphocyte T-cell immunomodulator - help

2017-10-28 Thread Amani Oakley
Seriously - try the Winstrol. I had very good results with it, and several 
others on our chatline have had good results as well. If it is complicated to 
get the LTCI, then it may well be easier to get the Winstrol. By the way, I am 
in Canada, and we had to ship the LTCI from the U.S.

Also, I don't think vets ANYWHERE are experienced with FeLV since they all just 
recommend putting the cat down. The experiences of others on our chatline, 
shows that to be the case, and we have heard from people in South Africa and 
South America as well as all over the U.S., and parts of Canada. Many of us 
have had to fight with our vets to get them to obtain Winstrol or to try any 
treatment at all for the FeLV. You are not alone in that regard.

Amani

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marlene melpignano
Sent: October-28-17 4:07 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Immunoregolin or Lymphocyte T-cell immunomodulator - 
help

Thanks Kat and Amani for support and suggestions.
Unfortunately I currently live in Brussels where they have ZERO experience on 
felv cats. As medicaments, in Europe we only have interferon, that I cannot use 
at the same time of prednisone, but without it the anemia prevails... in 
Belgium they proposed me cyclosporine, which is not used at all in Italy.
My Italian vet read about LTCI and thinks we should give it a try, but it's 
very complicated to get it in Europe, and a German veterinary specialised in 
virology told me there are no scientific proofs that immunomodulator are 
effective in Felv.
And I cannot find anything recent about them in academics articles.. 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Immunoregolin or Lymphocyte T-cell immunomodulator - help

2017-10-28 Thread marlene melpignano
Thanks Kat and Amani for support and suggestions.
Unfortunately I currently live in Brussels where they have ZERO experience on 
felv cats. As medicaments, in Europe we only have interferon, that I cannot use 
at the same time of prednisone, but without it the anemia prevails... in 
Belgium they proposed me cyclosporine, which is not used at all in Italy.
My Italian vet read about LTCI and thinks we should give it a try, but it's 
very complicated to get it in Europe, and a German veterinary specialised in 
virology told me there are no scientific proofs that immunomodulator are 
effective in Felv.
And I cannot find anything recent about them in academics articles.. 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Immunoregolin or Lymphocyte T-cell immunomodulator - help

2017-10-28 Thread Amani Oakley
Marlene - I should also have added to my last email, that you shouldn’t be 
surprised if you get an unusual response from your vet, to the suggestion of 
using Winstrol. Winstrol is an anabolic steroid, and has unfortunately been 
implicated in a number of athletic "doping" scandals and so it can sometimes be 
difficult to obtain. You said you are in Italy, and I actually think it may not 
be as difficult to access Winstrol in Europe as it is in North America, but I 
don’t know that for sure. It is possible that your vet will need to get the 
Winstrol from a compounding pharmacy.

However, the medication is not very expensive and I have had very good success 
with it with my FeLV cat who was in severe crisis and close to death. I have 
also found it very helpful in a wide array of other conditions since is it a 
muscle builder, bone builder and improves appetite and strength. (You can see 
why athletes often use it to become stronger and faster and heal faster as 
well.)

Amani

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Sent: October-28-17 10:40 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Immunoregolin or Lymphocyte T-cell immunomodulator - help

Hi, I have a cat Felv +, after initial symptoms he was fine for more than one 
year. He has now developed anemia and we do not get by lowering the massive 
dose of prednisolone without instantly getting anemia back.
Anyone has experience with Immunoregolin or LTCI? (Lymphocyte t-cell 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Immunoregolin or Lymphocyte T-cell immunomodulator - help

2017-10-28 Thread Amani Oakley
Hi Marlene

I methodically tried both the Immunoregulin and the LTCI. We gave weekly 
injections and performed weekly bloodwork, which showed no appreciable change 
in the haematology or other blood parameters. However, others on this chatline 
have had good results with those treatments. I suggest that if you are going to 
try either of these treatments, you perform weekly bloodwork as we did, and if 
there is no change, move on.

Alternatively, what I did find very effective, was using Winstrol (stanazolol) 
along with prednisolone and Doxycycline. Again, performing weekly bloodwork 
showed an immediate uptick in the red cell count and haematocrit, and it rose 
steadily thereafter from a level of 5 (critically low) to normal levels between 
25 and 35 after about 10 months of treatment. The other blood parameters also 
improved (platelets going from critically low numbers to within reference 
range) and white cells also returning to reference range levels.

I had good luck using a combination of Doxycycline (1/2 100 mg twice a day) 
plus Winstrol (1 mg x2 day) plus prednisone/prednisolone (1/2  5 mg tablet x2 a 
day). Even on this protocol, I recommend close weekly or bi-weekly monitoring 
so you can see if you start getting a rise in the red cell indices, etc. Don’t 
let your vet talk you out of one or another of these medications. You can’t 
substitute another antibiotic for the Doxycycline, for example. Doxycycline has 
anti-RNA properties (which allows it to interfere with the replication of 
viruses when other antibiotics don’t do this.) 

Amani

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marlene melpignano
Sent: October-28-17 10:40 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Immunoregolin or Lymphocyte T-cell immunomodulator - help

Hi, I have a cat Felv +, after initial symptoms he was fine for more than one 
year. He has now developed anemia and we do not get by lowering the massive 
dose of prednisolone without instantly getting anemia back.
Anyone has experience with Immunoregolin or LTCI? (Lymphocyte t-cell 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Immunoregolin or Lymphocyte T-cell immunomodulator - help

2017-10-28 Thread kat

Hi Marlene,

 

I do not have any experience with either Immunoregulin or LTCI, but I am sure others on this list can help you.  Hpefully they will check in before the weekend is over.  I am sending you positive energy vibes from the NJ in the USA.

 

Kat

('Mew' Jersey)

 

 

Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2017 at 10:40 AM
From: "marlene melpignano" <marl...@hotmail.com>
To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" <felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>
Subject: [Felvtalk] Immunoregolin or Lymphocyte T-cell immunomodulator - help

Hi, I have a cat Felv +, after initial symptoms he was fine for more than one year. He has now developed anemia and we do not get by lowering the massive dose of prednisolone without instantly getting anemia back.
Anyone has experience with Immunoregolin or LTCI? (Lymphocyte t-cell immunomodulator)
Thanks a lot,
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[Felvtalk] Immunoregolin or Lymphocyte T-cell immunomodulator - help

2017-10-28 Thread marlene melpignano
Hi, I have a cat Felv +, after initial symptoms he was fine for more than one 
year. He has now developed anemia and we do not get by lowering the massive 
dose of prednisolone without instantly getting anemia back.
Anyone has experience with Immunoregolin or LTCI? (Lymphocyte t-cell 
immunomodulator) 
Thanks a lot,
Marlène (an Italian desperate cat mother)


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Re: [Felvtalk] Help with Ash, Coles brother

2016-10-22 Thread dlgegg
lAmani, what would we do without your knowledge.  Really appreciate you.


 Amani Oakley  wrote: 
> Hi Karen
> 
> I am able to read the bloodwork. I do not see what you mean by it coming 
> through jumbled. In my email, I am able to easily read the bloodwork.
> 
> The blood work looks pretty good actually. The only thing that is low and 
> concerning is the platelet count, but there are clots in the bloodwork, so 
> that has pulled out the platelets from normal circulation. Thus, it is 
> impossible to tell whether the platelet count is actually low or falsely 
> reading low because of the clotting in the blood. (Next time – ask the vet 
> assistant to immediately mix the tube drawn for the haematology blood work. 
> For haematology tests, the tube contains an anticoagulant to stop the blood 
> from clotting but if the blood is not mixed fairly immediately after the 
> blood is collected, you will get clotting.)
> 
> The neutrophil component of the white cells has jumped and is a bit elevated, 
> and there are neutrophilic bands, which are immature neutrophilic cells. 
> Elevated neutrophils suggests a bacterial infection. Try a broad spectrum 
> antibiotic, since you don’t know whether the bacteria is a Gram negative or a 
> Gram positive organism. Orbax (Orbifloxacin) is such an antibiotic. I suspect 
> that the injection your vet also gave Ash, is Gravol or some such thing, that 
> acts to reduce nausea and vomiting. This probably settled his stomach and 
> that is why he is feeling better.
> 
> From the bloodwork, Karen, there is nothing to worry about. This is a 
> transient bacterial infection.
> 
> Amani
> 
> P.S. – I had to cut off your email in order to get this email to post on the 
> FeLV chatline. (BOY IS IT ANNOYING – couldn’t the limit be extended??? I had 
> to try to post this answer four times.)


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Re: [Felvtalk] need help for Ash, Coles brother

2016-10-22 Thread dlgegg
Sorry, meant sub q fluids.


 Margo <toomanykitti...@earthlink.net> wrote: 
> 
dlegg, 

 You were able to do IV's at home? That is no easy feat, cat veins 
are tough under the BEST of circumstances. 

KUDOS!

What were you treating?

Margo

-Original Message-
>From: dlg...@windstream.net
>Sent: Oct 22, 2016 11:59 AM
>To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org, Karen Harshbarger <harshbargerka...@yahoo.com>
>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] need help for Ash, Coles brother
>
>I know where you are coming from, have been through this emergency thing many 
>times.  level head so you can care for him and not stress him out.  When I 
>first had to do ivs for Lil Bit, I was so afraid I would make a mistake, but 
>soon realized I would make one if I did not get control.  Love him, do all you 
>can do for him and above all, pray, it works wonders.  Did for me with my 
>cancer.  I feel for youeven tho I don't know you.  Especially when you just 
>lost another recently.  Hang in there, get enough sleep, eat right so you can 
>be there for him.
>
>
> Karen Harshbarger <harshbargerka...@yahoo.com> wrote: 
>> I am getting so stressed out I even typed the wrong name.  The blood work 
>> that I tried  to send on Ash (not cole as I stated in last email,   came 
>> through in a jumbled mess.  I will try to redo later tonight.
>> Thank you, Karen and Ash 
>> 
>> On Friday, October 21, 2016 6:44 PM, Karen Harshbarger 
>> <harshbargerka...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>  
>> 
>>  well it looks like the blood test results that I sent on Cole came through 
>> as a jumbled mess and I dont kknow how to fix it.  It took me hours to type 
>> this all in!
>> I have an appointment now and will try again tonight.  Cause tonight Ash ate 
>> but not normal.  I was feeling good because he seemed to be back to normal 
>> until supper tonight.  I am so afraid I am going to loose him too and it is 
>> making me sick   Just had his brother cole die in my arms two months ago and 
>> I dont think I cant deal with loosing Ash now too.  
>> Thanks,  Karen and Ash
>> 
>>
>
>
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Re: [Felvtalk] need help for Ash, Coles brother

2016-10-22 Thread Margo

dlegg, 

 You were able to do IV's at home? That is no easy feat, cat veins 
are tough under the BEST of circumstances. 

KUDOS!

What were you treating?

Margo

-Original Message-
>From: dlg...@windstream.net
>Sent: Oct 22, 2016 11:59 AM
>To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org, Karen Harshbarger <harshbargerka...@yahoo.com>
>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] need help for Ash, Coles brother
>
>I know where you are coming from, have been through this emergency thing many 
>times.  level head so you can care for him and not stress him out.  When I 
>first had to do ivs for Lil Bit, I was so afraid I would make a mistake, but 
>soon realized I would make one if I did not get control.  Love him, do all you 
>can do for him and above all, pray, it works wonders.  Did for me with my 
>cancer.  I feel for youeven tho I don't know you.  Especially when you just 
>lost another recently.  Hang in there, get enough sleep, eat right so you can 
>be there for him.
>
>
> Karen Harshbarger <harshbargerka...@yahoo.com> wrote: 
>> I am getting so stressed out I even typed the wrong name.  The blood work 
>> that I tried  to send on Ash (not cole as I stated in last email,   came 
>> through in a jumbled mess.  I will try to redo later tonight.
>> Thank you, Karen and Ash 
>> 
>> On Friday, October 21, 2016 6:44 PM, Karen Harshbarger 
>> <harshbargerka...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>  
>> 
>>  well it looks like the blood test results that I sent on Cole came through 
>> as a jumbled mess and I dont kknow how to fix it.  It took me hours to type 
>> this all in!
>> I have an appointment now and will try again tonight.  Cause tonight Ash ate 
>> but not normal.  I was feeling good because he seemed to be back to normal 
>> until supper tonight.  I am so afraid I am going to loose him too and it is 
>> making me sick   Just had his brother cole die in my arms two months ago and 
>> I dont think I cant deal with loosing Ash now too.  
>> Thanks,  Karen and Ash
>> 
>>
>
>
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Re: [Felvtalk] need help for Ash, Coles brother

2016-10-22 Thread dlgegg
I know where you are coming from, have been through this emergency thing many 
times.  level head so you can care for him and not stress him out.  When I 
first had to do ivs for Lil Bit, I was so afraid I would make a mistake, but 
soon realized I would make one if I did not get control.  Love him, do all you 
can do for him and above all, pray, it works wonders.  Did for me with my 
cancer.  I feel for youeven tho I don't know you.  Especially when you just 
lost another recently.  Hang in there, get enough sleep, eat right so you can 
be there for him.


 Karen Harshbarger  wrote: 
> I am getting so stressed out I even typed the wrong name.  The blood work 
> that I tried  to send on Ash (not cole as I stated in last email,   came 
> through in a jumbled mess.  I will try to redo later tonight.
> Thank you, Karen and Ash 
> 
> On Friday, October 21, 2016 6:44 PM, Karen Harshbarger 
>  wrote:
>  
> 
>  well it looks like the blood test results that I sent on Cole came through 
> as a jumbled mess and I dont kknow how to fix it.  It took me hours to type 
> this all in!
> I have an appointment now and will try again tonight.  Cause tonight Ash ate 
> but not normal.  I was feeling good because he seemed to be back to normal 
> until supper tonight.  I am so afraid I am going to loose him too and it is 
> making me sick   Just had his brother cole die in my arms two months ago and 
> I dont think I cant deal with loosing Ash now too.  
> Thanks,  Karen and Ash
> 
>


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Re: [Felvtalk] need help for Ash, Coles brother

2016-10-22 Thread Margo
Karen, it came thru fine for me (although it's a bit late to tell you, I realize)-Original Message-
From: Karen Harshbarger <harshbargerka...@yahoo.com>
Sent: Oct 21, 2016 8:06 PM
To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" <felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] need help for Ash, Coles brother

I am getting so stressed out I even typed the wrong name.  The blood work that I tried  to send on Ash (not cole as I stated in last email,   came through in a jumbled mess.  I will try to redo later tonight.Thank you, Karen and Ash On Friday, October 21, 2016 6:44 PM, Karen Harshbarger <harshbargerka...@yahoo.com> wrote:   well it looks like the blood test results that I sent on Cole came through as a jumbled mess and I dont kknow how to fix it.  It took me hours to type this all in!I have an appointment now and will try again tonight.  Cause tonight Ash ate but not normal.  I was feeling good because he seemed to be back to normal until supper tonight.  I am so afraid I am going to loose him too and it is making me sick   Just had his brother cole die in my arms two months ago and I dont think I cant deal with loosing Ash now too.  Thanks,  Karen and Ash 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Help with Ash, Coles brother

2016-10-21 Thread Amani Oakley
Hi Karen

I am able to read the bloodwork. I do not see what you mean by it coming 
through jumbled. In my email, I am able to easily read the bloodwork.

The blood work looks pretty good actually. The only thing that is low and 
concerning is the platelet count, but there are clots in the bloodwork, so that 
has pulled out the platelets from normal circulation. Thus, it is impossible to 
tell whether the platelet count is actually low or falsely reading low because 
of the clotting in the blood. (Next time – ask the vet assistant to immediately 
mix the tube drawn for the haematology blood work. For haematology tests, the 
tube contains an anticoagulant to stop the blood from clotting but if the blood 
is not mixed fairly immediately after the blood is collected, you will get 
clotting.)

The neutrophil component of the white cells has jumped and is a bit elevated, 
and there are neutrophilic bands, which are immature neutrophilic cells. 
Elevated neutrophils suggests a bacterial infection. Try a broad spectrum 
antibiotic, since you don’t know whether the bacteria is a Gram negative or a 
Gram positive organism. Orbax (Orbifloxacin) is such an antibiotic. I suspect 
that the injection your vet also gave Ash, is Gravol or some such thing, that 
acts to reduce nausea and vomiting. This probably settled his stomach and that 
is why he is feeling better.

From the bloodwork, Karen, there is nothing to worry about. This is a transient 
bacterial infection.

Amani

P.S. – I had to cut off your email in order to get this email to post on the 
FeLV chatline. (BOY IS IT ANNOYING – couldn’t the limit be extended??? I had to 
try to post this answer four times.)
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Re: [Felvtalk] need help for Ash, Coles brother

2016-10-21 Thread Sandy
you and Ash are in my thoughts and prayers 


- Original Message -

From: dlg...@windstream.net 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org, "Karen Harshbarger" 
<harshbargerka...@yahoo.com> 
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2016 9:24:23 PM 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] need help for Ash, Coles brother 

I know it is hard to do, but try to stay calm . Your worry will transfer to 
Ash. 


 Karen Harshbarger <harshbargerka...@yahoo.com> wrote: 
> I am getting so stressed out I even typed the wrong name. The blood work that 
> I tried to send on Ash (not cole as I stated in last email, came through in a 
> jumbled mess. I will try to redo later tonight. 
> Thank you, Karen and Ash 
> 
> On Friday, October 21, 2016 6:44 PM, Karen Harshbarger 
> <harshbargerka...@yahoo.com> wrote: 
> 
> 
> well it looks like the blood test results that I sent on Cole came through as 
> a jumbled mess and I dont kknow how to fix it. It took me hours to type this 
> all in! 
> I have an appointment now and will try again tonight. Cause tonight Ash ate 
> but not normal. I was feeling good because he seemed to be back to normal 
> until supper tonight. I am so afraid I am going to loose him too and it is 
> making me sick Just had his brother cole die in my arms two months ago and I 
> dont think I cant deal with loosing Ash now too. 
> Thanks, Karen and Ash 
> 
> 


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Re: [Felvtalk] need help for Ash, Coles brother

2016-10-21 Thread dlgegg
I know it is hard to do, but try to stay calm .  Your worry will transfer to 
Ash.


 Karen Harshbarger  wrote: 
> I am getting so stressed out I even typed the wrong name.  The blood work 
> that I tried  to send on Ash (not cole as I stated in last email,   came 
> through in a jumbled mess.  I will try to redo later tonight.
> Thank you, Karen and Ash 
> 
> On Friday, October 21, 2016 6:44 PM, Karen Harshbarger 
>  wrote:
>  
> 
>  well it looks like the blood test results that I sent on Cole came through 
> as a jumbled mess and I dont kknow how to fix it.  It took me hours to type 
> this all in!
> I have an appointment now and will try again tonight.  Cause tonight Ash ate 
> but not normal.  I was feeling good because he seemed to be back to normal 
> until supper tonight.  I am so afraid I am going to loose him too and it is 
> making me sick   Just had his brother cole die in my arms two months ago and 
> I dont think I cant deal with loosing Ash now too.  
> Thanks,  Karen and Ash
> 
>


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Re: [Felvtalk] need help for Ash, Coles brother

2016-10-21 Thread dlgegg
I havwe no knowledge to offer, but will keep you in my prayers.

 Karen Harshbarger  wrote: 
> well it looks like the blood test results that I sent on Cole came through as 
> a jumbled mess and I dont kknow how to fix it.  It took me hours to type this 
> all in!
> I have an appointment now and will try again tonight.  Cause tonight Ash ate 
> but not normal.  I was feeling good because he seemed to be back to normal 
> until supper tonight.  I am so afraid I am going to loose him too and it is 
> making me sick   Just had his brother cole die in my arms two months ago and 
> I dont think I cant deal with loosing Ash now too.  
> Thanks,  Karen and Ash


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Re: [Felvtalk] need help for Ash, Coles brother

2016-10-21 Thread Karen Harshbarger
I am getting so stressed out I even typed the wrong name.  The blood work that 
I tried  to send on Ash (not cole as I stated in last email,   came through in 
a jumbled mess.  I will try to redo later tonight.
Thank you, Karen and Ash 

On Friday, October 21, 2016 6:44 PM, Karen Harshbarger 
 wrote:
 

 well it looks like the blood test results that I sent on Cole came through as 
a jumbled mess and I dont kknow how to fix it.  It took me hours to type this 
all in!
I have an appointment now and will try again tonight.  Cause tonight Ash ate 
but not normal.  I was feeling good because he seemed to be back to normal 
until supper tonight.  I am so afraid I am going to loose him too and it is 
making me sick   Just had his brother cole die in my arms two months ago and I 
dont think I cant deal with loosing Ash now too.  
Thanks,  Karen and Ash

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[Felvtalk] need help for Ash, Coles brother

2016-10-21 Thread Karen Harshbarger
well it looks like the blood test results that I sent on Cole came through as a 
jumbled mess and I dont kknow how to fix it.  It took me hours to type this all 
in!
I have an appointment now and will try again tonight.  Cause tonight Ash ate 
but not normal.  I was feeling good because he seemed to be back to normal 
until supper tonight.  I am so afraid I am going to loose him too and it is 
making me sick   Just had his brother cole die in my arms two months ago and I 
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[Felvtalk] Help with Ash, Coles brother

2016-10-21 Thread Karen Harshbarger
 two months ago we lost our sweet Cole to liver failure,  anemia, blood 
clotting tests was off the charts it was so thin, who knows what else (possible 
infection from fleas), and feline leukemia. He died in my arms.  Don't know 
which is worse, having to make the decision to help them cross over or having 
them gasp for their last breath in your arms.  It all started with Cole not 
wanting to eat.  Now his brother Ash stopped eating yesterday and I am scared 
to death.    If anyone has some advice, it would be greatly appreciated.
Today we took Ash to the vet because he had not eaten for 24 hours and threw up 
first white mucus and then pinkish mucus later.  the vet said he had a very 
high fever.  Here is the results of the bloodwork for two months ago when we 
had him and his two brothers tested and current bloodwork.  Ashs blood work is 
much better than Coles was, so I hope more can be done for Ash and pray we do 
not loose him two.
First numbers are the range, second numbers are 8/10, and third numbers are 
today 10/20     range            8/10/16           nowcatalyst dx
Glu (74-159)       97mg/dl   139 mg/dLBUn   (16-36)         25          
        15    LOWCrea   (0.8-2.4)      1.6                 1.4  
Bun/crea                 16                  11Phos   (3.1-7.5)      4.6        
         3.2Ca   (7.8-11.3)    9.0                  8.5tp (5.7-8.9) 
     7.3 g/dl          7.9 g/dl   alb(2.2-4.0)     3.3          
       3.4glob  (2.8-5.1)     4.0                 4.5ALB/GLOB               
0.8                 0.8alt         (12-130)     40u/l               36u/lalkp   
   (14-111)      28                  19
ggt    (0-4)            0                     0 tbil         (0.0-0.9)     
0.1                 0.3chol  (65-225)     126                97amyl   
(500-1500)   972 u/l 1357 u/llipa (100-1400)   438               
411 na   (150-165)     161mmol/L  159mmol/Lk (3.5-5.8)         3.4  
  3.8na/k                            47 42cl
 (112-129)     124   120osm calc                   320              
  316
procyta dxrbc     (6.54-12.20)   7.98m/ul      8.48m/ulhct      (30.3-52.3)     
37.7!%         37.8%hgb    (9.8-16.2)        12.4 g/dl     13.0g/dlmcv    
(35.9-53.1)      47.2 fl          44.6 fl  mch   (11.8-17.3)      15.5pg        
 15.3 pgmchc  (11.8-17.3)      32.9g/dl       34.4g/dlrdw     (15.0-27.0)      
22.9%          25.6%%retic                           0,2%            0.0%retic  
   (3.0-50.0)       13.6 k/ul       3.4k/ulwbc     (2.87-17.2)     6.02         
      10.95%neu                           67.8%            78.1%%lym            
                19.6               18.4%mono                        2.8         
        1.5%eos                            8.8                 1.2%basoneu      
(1.48-10.29)   4.08k/ul         8.56      band suspendedlym      (0.92-6.88)    
  1.18               2.01mono  (0.05-0.67)       0.17              0.16eos     
(0.17-1.57)        0.53              0.13       LOWbasoplt        (151-600)     
     45                 24         LOW       plt aggregates detected
WBC abnormal distributionPLT aggregates detectedband neutrophil,s suspected 
tested positive for feline leukemia on snap test two months ago and now.  Also 
tested positive back before year old.  and tested negatived two times while one 
year old. all of this have been the in officce feline leukemia test.  He is now 
a little ove 4 years old.  Ashs brother (Cole) tested the same before death two 
months ago with a positive, then two negatives, and recently positive.  Ashs 
other brother tested positive one time and has been negative ever since.  the 3 
brothers were housed together and the surviving two brothers Ash and BJ are 
still housed together,
The vet gave him an injection that they said would help his upset stomach and 
high temp but I just noticed they let that off of the statement so I do not 
know what it was.  and they gave me Orbax 20 ml to give for the next 10 days 
once a day.  Ash is back to normal self---eating and active again and has had 
one dose of  Orbax plus injection of some sort in the vet office  No fluids or 
anything else has been given to Ash.
I have another appointment tomorrow for Ash with the vet for checkup and to 
make sure fever is gone.  Any suggestions would be so so appreciated,
Karen Harshbarger and Ash







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Re: [Felvtalk] Help Understanding Labs

2016-09-25 Thread Amani Oakley
Normally, with FeLV, the lymphocytes go up, not down.

Amani

-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
Corinne Shank
Sent: September-26-16 12:54 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Help Understanding Labs

The creatinine was at 1.5 and the bun was at 26 so well within normal.  I was 
more concerned about the Lymphocytes which was at 18 and the Absolute 
lymphocyte which was at 864.

I was wondering if I should go ahead and get the IFA test done.  I think I am 
hoping against hope as I think I know that she does have Felv.   I wish that I 
could treat her ear problems but it does not seem that any treatment has 
worked.  

 
On Sep 25, 2016, at 8:04 PM, Amani Oakley <aoak...@oakleylegal.com> wrote:

> If there were blood clots, then that takes the platelets out of the blood. 
> Clots are made up of platelets, so the platelets are no longer "loose" and 
> the machine can therefore not detect the platelets.
> 
> What was the creatinine and urea? I don't think I would be too worried about 
> the sodium and albumin (though you haven't given me actual numbers) unless it 
> is early renal signs, so if the creatinine and urea are okay, and the sodium 
> and albumin are just a bit out of range, I wouldn't be too concerned.
> 
> Amani
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
> Corinne Shank
> Sent: September-25-16 12:35 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: [Felvtalk] Help Understanding Labs
> 
> My 7.5 Y/O cat tested positive (ELISA) for Felv about a month ago.  She had 
> yeast ear infections that would not go away and had lost weight so I had her 
> tested to see if there was a problem with her immune system and blood workup. 
>  When my vet told me that she tested positive of FELV, she said that she also 
> had some blood work issues.  I was just devastated by the news so I kind of 
> blanked out what she said (especially as the vet said it basically was a 
> death sentence).  So this past week I asked for a copy of her blood work.  
> When she had her blood work she had just finished 2 weeks of Fluconazole 
> (systematic fungal medication)  as the vet thought this would help her yeast 
> ear infection.What popped out of the blood work was Albumin (high), 
> Sodium (high), platelet count (really low), lymphocytes (low),  and Absolute 
> Limphocy (low).  A note at the bottom of the test said that clots are 
> detected in the sample and CBC results may be affected. Does anyone know what 
> this all
  m
> eans? The platelet count was so low that if it was accurate,  I thought she 
> should would have bled to death by now.   I am wondering if the fungal 
> medication had any effect on her blood work.  I think the medication was hard 
> on her body.   My cat has been more active this past week but I have noticed 
> that she goes in cycles of where she wants to eat and does not want to eat.   
>
> 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Help Understanding Labs

2016-09-25 Thread Corinne Shank
The creatinine was at 1.5 and the bun was at 26 so well within normal.  I was 
more concerned about the Lymphocytes which was at 18 and the Absolute 
lymphocyte which was at 864.

I was wondering if I should go ahead and get the IFA test done.  I think I am 
hoping against hope as I think I know that she does have Felv.   I wish that I 
could treat her ear problems but it does not seem that any treatment has 
worked.  

 
On Sep 25, 2016, at 8:04 PM, Amani Oakley <aoak...@oakleylegal.com> wrote:

> If there were blood clots, then that takes the platelets out of the blood. 
> Clots are made up of platelets, so the platelets are no longer "loose" and 
> the machine can therefore not detect the platelets.
> 
> What was the creatinine and urea? I don't think I would be too worried about 
> the sodium and albumin (though you haven't given me actual numbers) unless it 
> is early renal signs, so if the creatinine and urea are okay, and the sodium 
> and albumin are just a bit out of range, I wouldn't be too concerned.
> 
> Amani
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
> Corinne Shank
> Sent: September-25-16 12:35 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: [Felvtalk] Help Understanding Labs
> 
> My 7.5 Y/O cat tested positive (ELISA) for Felv about a month ago.  She had 
> yeast ear infections that would not go away and had lost weight so I had her 
> tested to see if there was a problem with her immune system and blood workup. 
>  When my vet told me that she tested positive of FELV, she said that she also 
> had some blood work issues.  I was just devastated by the news so I kind of 
> blanked out what she said (especially as the vet said it basically was a 
> death sentence).  So this past week I asked for a copy of her blood work.  
> When she had her blood work she had just finished 2 weeks of Fluconazole 
> (systematic fungal medication)  as the vet thought this would help her yeast 
> ear infection.What popped out of the blood work was Albumin (high), 
> Sodium (high), platelet count (really low), lymphocytes (low),  and Absolute 
> Limphocy (low).  A note at the bottom of the test said that clots are 
> detected in the sample and CBC results may be affected. Does anyone know what 
> this all
  m
> eans? The platelet count was so low that if it was accurate,  I thought she 
> should would have bled to death by now.   I am wondering if the fungal 
> medication had any effect on her blood work.  I think the medication was hard 
> on her body.   My cat has been more active this past week but I have noticed 
> that she goes in cycles of where she wants to eat and does not want to eat.   
>
> 
> 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Help Understanding Labs

2016-09-25 Thread Amani Oakley
If there were blood clots, then that takes the platelets out of the blood. 
Clots are made up of platelets, so the platelets are no longer "loose" and the 
machine can therefore not detect the platelets.

What was the creatinine and urea? I don't think I would be too worried about 
the sodium and albumin (though you haven't given me actual numbers) unless it 
is early renal signs, so if the creatinine and urea are okay, and the sodium 
and albumin are just a bit out of range, I wouldn't be too concerned.

Amani

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Corinne Shank
Sent: September-25-16 12:35 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Help Understanding Labs

My 7.5 Y/O cat tested positive (ELISA) for Felv about a month ago.  She had 
yeast ear infections that would not go away and had lost weight so I had her 
tested to see if there was a problem with her immune system and blood workup.  
When my vet told me that she tested positive of FELV, she said that she also 
had some blood work issues.  I was just devastated by the news so I kind of 
blanked out what she said (especially as the vet said it basically was a death 
sentence).  So this past week I asked for a copy of her blood work.  When she 
had her blood work she had just finished 2 weeks of Fluconazole (systematic 
fungal medication)  as the vet thought this would help her yeast ear infection. 
   What popped out of the blood work was Albumin (high), Sodium (high), 
platelet count (really low), lymphocytes (low),  and Absolute Limphocy (low).  
A note at the bottom of the test said that clots are detected in the sample and 
CBC results may be affected. Does anyone know what this all m
 eans? The platelet count was so low that if it was accurate,  I thought she 
should would have bled to death by now.   I am wondering if the fungal 
medication had any effect on her blood work.  I think the medication was hard 
on her body.   My cat has been more active this past week but I have noticed 
that she goes in cycles of where she wants to eat and does not want to eat. 
 





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[Felvtalk] Help Understanding Labs

2016-09-25 Thread Corinne Shank
My 7.5 Y/O cat tested positive (ELISA) for Felv about a month ago.  She had 
yeast ear infections that would not go away and had lost weight so I had her 
tested to see if there was a problem with her immune system and blood workup.  
When my vet told me that she tested positive of FELV, she said that she also 
had some blood work issues.  I was just devastated by the news so I kind of 
blanked out what she said (especially as the vet said it basically was a death 
sentence).  So this past week I asked for a copy of her blood work.  When she 
had her blood work she had just finished 2 weeks of Fluconazole (systematic 
fungal medication)  as the vet thought this would help her yeast ear infection. 
   What popped out of the blood work was Albumin (high), Sodium (high), 
platelet count (really low), lymphocytes (low),  and Absolute Limphocy (low).  
A note at the bottom of the test said that clots are detected in the sample and 
CBC results may be affected. Does anyone know what this all m
 eans? The platelet count was so low that if it was accurate,  I thought she 
should would have bled to death by now.   I am wondering if the fungal 
medication had any effect on her blood work.  I think the medication was hard 
on her body.   My cat has been more active this past week but I have noticed 
that she goes in cycles of where she wants to eat and does not want to eat. 
 





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Re: [Felvtalk] Help with Yeast Infection

2016-09-08 Thread dlgegg
Just remembered that when my standard poodle had mites, he groomer used 
powdered sulpher in her ears.  Cleared them up fast.


 Sandy <swacht1...@comcast.net> wrote: 
> Might check ou this web site - currently, I have kittens with ear mites - 
> planning to use this treatment - good luck - sure isn't harmful either!! 
> Sandy W 
> 
> 
> http://www.petnet.io/pet_health_blogs/holistic-healing-for-cats-apple-cider-vinegar#.V9GIPSgrKUk
>  
> 
> - Original Message -
> 
> From: "Katherine K." <kaths...@gmail.com> 
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
> Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 8:23:28 AM 
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Help with Yeast Infection 
> 
> Welcome to the group, Corrine. I am very sorry about your kitty's diagnosis 
> but we are here to support you and her. I don't have any experience with ear 
> yeast infections in cats but others on the list may. If you are also on 
> Facebook there is an "Owners of FeLV+/FIV+ Cats" private group that is pretty 
> active too. 
> 
> On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 10:24 PM, Corinne Shank < cms9...@hotmail.com > wrote: 
> 
> 
> My cat who is 7.5 years old has had on and off yeast ear infections for the 
> past 2 years. After the last infection that did not respond to treatment, I 
> asked the vet to see if she had any immune deficiency issues as I had read 
> that yeast was opportunistic where cats have a suppressed immune system. 
> Unfortunately the test for Felv (Elisa) came back positive. I am just 
> devastated as she is my little princess. When I got her as a kitten, she had 
> tested positive but tested negative a month later. I was told that if a 
> kitten tested negative after positive, that she had shed the virus and would 
> be free of Felv. I guess that is not the case. I would have never brought her 
> home if I had any idea that she was positive as I have another cat who was 
> and still is Felv negative. 
> 
> So the problem I have now is what to do with her ears. The vet said to use 
> Gentizol every couple of days to keep the infection down. Are there any other 
> recommendations? 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Help with Yeast Infection

2016-09-08 Thread dlgegg
My Annie who still tests positive is Healthy, active and rules the roost.  
Harley who is 18lbs, a great hunter and has an attitude, walks around Annie 
always with his eyes on her.  He only problem is hayfever.  Like me, when 
ragweed and horseweed are in bloom, he has runny eyes, sneezes and a runny 
nose.  If she stays inside, she has no problems.  If she seems healthy other 
than the ear infection, I would not worry about her.  Have you looked into 
herbal treatments for her ears?  I rely on herbs for myself and my cats, 
starting with Bragg's raw vinegar, I put a dropper full in ther water every 
time I refill their fountains.  This is for Harley who had a problem with urine 
crystals.  Since his first round, no more.  Check out herbs for yeast problems 
with a holistic vet.


 Corinne Shank  wrote: 
> My cat who is 7.5 years old has had on and off yeast ear infections for the 
> past 2 years.  After the last infection that did not respond to treatment,  I 
> asked the vet to see if she had any immune deficiency issues as I had read 
> that yeast was opportunistic where cats have a suppressed immune system.  
> Unfortunately the test for Felv (Elisa) came back positive.   I am just 
> devastated as she is my little princess.   When I got her as a kitten,  she 
> had tested positive but tested negative a month later.  I was told that if a 
> kitten tested negative after positive,  that she had shed the virus and would 
> be free of Felv.   I guess that is not the case.I would have never 
> brought her home if I had any idea that she was positive as I have another 
> cat who was and still is Felv negative.  
> 
> So the problem I have now is what to do with her ears.   The vet said to use 
> Gentizol every couple of days to keep the infection down.  Are there any 
> other recommendations?  
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Re: [Felvtalk] Help with Yeast Infection

2016-09-08 Thread Sandy
Might check ou this web site - currently, I have kittens with ear mites - 
planning to use this treatment - good luck - sure isn't harmful either!! 
Sandy W 


http://www.petnet.io/pet_health_blogs/holistic-healing-for-cats-apple-cider-vinegar#.V9GIPSgrKUk
 

- Original Message -

From: "Katherine K." <kaths...@gmail.com> 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 8:23:28 AM 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Help with Yeast Infection 

Welcome to the group, Corrine. I am very sorry about your kitty's diagnosis but 
we are here to support you and her. I don't have any experience with ear yeast 
infections in cats but others on the list may. If you are also on Facebook 
there is an "Owners of FeLV+/FIV+ Cats" private group that is pretty active 
too. 

On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 10:24 PM, Corinne Shank < cms9...@hotmail.com > wrote: 


My cat who is 7.5 years old has had on and off yeast ear infections for the 
past 2 years. After the last infection that did not respond to treatment, I 
asked the vet to see if she had any immune deficiency issues as I had read that 
yeast was opportunistic where cats have a suppressed immune system. 
Unfortunately the test for Felv (Elisa) came back positive. I am just 
devastated as she is my little princess. When I got her as a kitten, she had 
tested positive but tested negative a month later. I was told that if a kitten 
tested negative after positive, that she had shed the virus and would be free 
of Felv. I guess that is not the case. I would have never brought her home if I 
had any idea that she was positive as I have another cat who was and still is 
Felv negative. 

So the problem I have now is what to do with her ears. The vet said to use 
Gentizol every couple of days to keep the infection down. Are there any other 
recommendations? 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Help with Yeast Infection

2016-09-08 Thread Katherine K.
Welcome to the group, Corrine. I am very sorry about your kitty's diagnosis
but we are here to support you and her. I don't have any experience with
ear yeast infections in cats but others on the list may. If you are also on
Facebook there is an "Owners of FeLV+/FIV+ Cats" private group that is
pretty active too.

On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 10:24 PM, Corinne Shank  wrote:

> My cat who is 7.5 years old has had on and off yeast ear infections for
> the past 2 years.  After the last infection that did not respond to
> treatment,  I asked the vet to see if she had any immune deficiency issues
> as I had read that yeast was opportunistic where cats have a suppressed
> immune system.  Unfortunately the test for Felv (Elisa) came back
> positive.   I am just devastated as she is my little princess.   When I got
> her as a kitten,  she had tested positive but tested negative a month
> later.  I was told that if a kitten tested negative after positive,  that
> she had shed the virus and would be free of Felv.   I guess that is not the
> case.I would have never brought her home if I had any idea that she was
> positive as I have another cat who was and still is Felv negative.
>
> So the problem I have now is what to do with her ears.   The vet said to
> use Gentizol every couple of days to keep the infection down.  Are there
> any other recommendations?
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[Felvtalk] Help with Yeast Infection

2016-09-07 Thread Corinne Shank
My cat who is 7.5 years old has had on and off yeast ear infections for the 
past 2 years.  After the last infection that did not respond to treatment,  I 
asked the vet to see if she had any immune deficiency issues as I had read that 
yeast was opportunistic where cats have a suppressed immune system.  
Unfortunately the test for Felv (Elisa) came back positive.   I am just 
devastated as she is my little princess.   When I got her as a kitten,  she had 
tested positive but tested negative a month later.  I was told that if a kitten 
tested negative after positive,  that she had shed the virus and would be free 
of Felv.   I guess that is not the case.I would have never brought her home 
if I had any idea that she was positive as I have another cat who was and still 
is Felv negative.  

So the problem I have now is what to do with her ears.   The vet said to use 
Gentizol every couple of days to keep the infection down.  Are there any other 
recommendations?  
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[Felvtalk] Request for help

2016-09-05 Thread Kelley S
Hi Guys,

First, please forgive the blank email I sent.  I would like to request to
post a fundraiser here.  I know none of us have money, but I'm hoping if
this fundraiser gets shared it will get to some folks with money.  My
Toodles is in the hospital and has been since Thurday.  I'm anticipating
the bill will be $750 if not more, and that is more than half my SSDI
check.  When I was able to work this was not as much of a problem, but now
it is.

I won't post it if yall say not to!  So just let me know.

Thanks,

Kelley
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Re: [Felvtalk] Urgent help with flea treatment question

2016-08-31 Thread dlgegg
I have not used flea treatments for 4 or 5 years now and all cats are still 
free from fleas.  I do have a yard full of catnip and 4 large pots of lemon 
grass on the deck.  Both are supposed to repel fleas.
Now tgell me how to keep ringneck snakes out of the house.  Discovered Harley 
and Dee playing with 2 in the living rom.  I picked them up and threw them 
outside, but now wonder if any other kind of snakes have gotten in.


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Re: [Felvtalk] Urgent help with flea treatment question

2016-08-30 Thread Kelley S
Timmy's Dirty Flea Soap is the best.  http://www.dirtyflea.com/

On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 6:39 PM, Sandy <swacht1...@comcast.net> wrote:

> Use Deamateous Earth _ FOOD GRADE  - think the spelling may be off - I
> believe it's available from Home Depot or order online
> Sandy W
>
> --
> *From: *"Margo" <toomanykitti...@earthlink.net>
> *To: *"Karen Harshbarger" <harshbargerka...@yahoo.com>,
> felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Sent: *Tuesday, August 30, 2016 5:33:53 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [Felvtalk] Urgent help with flea treatment question
>
>
>
> I'm having flea issues, as well. Mako went to a specialist (for non-FeLV
> related problems) and they recommended Comfortis. I had to order from
> Valley Vet, and gave it to him 8/26. So far so good. It seems to have done
> the job, but I also use flea traps, and treated the other cats as well. For
> most of the year, I was okay using (generic) Capstar and flea traps.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Karen Harshbarger
> Sent: Aug 30, 2016 3:23 PM
> To: Felvtalk
> Subject: [Felvtalk] Urgent help with flea treatment question
>
>   As most of you know, we lost our Cole to feline leukemia and liver
> complications this month.  I don't have time to morn my dear sweet Cole as
> I am struggling to save his brother Ash.  Ash tested positive again this
> month (4 years ago tested positive once and then negative twice).  However
> his blood work shows everything in the normal range and he is eating and
> playing and going to the bathroom and seems healthy, so the vet has
> recommended no treatment or preventatives at this time.  They only suggest
> another blood work check in one to 4 months and flea treatment.
>
> Ash and  his brother have fleas.  I know I must treat but that seems like
> when Cole started going downhillwhen I treated for fleas with Frontline
> twice.
> Frontline did nothing for the fleas, even though I threw away all beds and
> blankets and cleaned their living quarters.  I fear that the fleas or
> treatment or both did something to Cole to take his life.  But I know I
> have to treat fleas too.  I have tried combing everyday, but that does not
> work either.
>
> Has anyone used Vectra flea treatment for cats.  It has worked well for me
> for other cats, but I fear that it might be too strong for our Ash with the
> feline leukemia.  As I said I used Frontline originally cause I was told it
> was safer because it could be used on young kittens even.  Ash is 4 1/2
> years old and I know I have to do something about the fleas.  Please let me
> know if you have used Vectra flea treatment.  Or if you use something else
> successfully or don't use flea treatment at all with feline leukemia.  Ash
> never goes outside, so I don't know where they got the fleas unless at vet
> or we brought the fleas in from outside on shoes, etc.
>
> Please Helpthis is urgent as I feel I must do something to get rid of
> fleas that already seem out of hand since 2 treatments of Frontline did not
> work, and I am so worried about anything with Ash with his positive on the
> feline leukemia test at the vet and after loosing Cole.  My heart just cant
> loose another of my fur babies.  Please Help!!!
>
> Thank you, Karen and kitties Ash and BJ and angle Cole
>
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Re: [Felvtalk] Urgent help with flea treatment question

2016-08-30 Thread Sandy
Use Deamateous Earth _ FOOD GRADE - think the spelling may be off - I believe 
it's available from Home Depot or order online 
Sandy W 

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From: "Margo" <toomanykitti...@earthlink.net> 
To: "Karen Harshbarger" <harshbargerka...@yahoo.com>, 
felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 5:33:53 PM 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Urgent help with flea treatment question 


I'm having flea issues, as well. Mako went to a specialist (for non-FeLV 
related problems) and they recommended Comfortis. I had to order from Valley 
Vet, and gave it to him 8/26. So far so good. It seems to have done the job, 
but I also use flea traps, and treated the other cats as well. For most of the 
year, I was okay using (generic) Capstar and flea traps. 



-Original Message- 
From: Karen Harshbarger 
Sent: Aug 30, 2016 3:23 PM 
To: Felvtalk 
Subject: [Felvtalk] Urgent help with flea treatment question 

As most of you know, we lost our Cole to feline leukemia and liver 
complications this month. I don't have time to morn my dear sweet Cole as I am 
struggling to save his brother Ash. Ash tested positive again this month (4 
years ago tested positive once and then negative twice). However his blood work 
shows everything in the normal range and he is eating and playing and going to 
the bathroom and seems healthy, so the vet has recommended no treatment or 
preventatives at this time. They only suggest another blood work check in one 
to 4 months and flea treatment. 

Ash and his brother have fleas. I know I must treat but that seems like when 
Cole started going downhillwhen I treated for fleas with Frontline twice. 
Frontline did nothing for the fleas, even though I threw away all beds and 
blankets and cleaned their living quarters. I fear that the fleas or treatment 
or both did something to Cole to take his life. But I know I have to treat 
fleas too. I have tried combing everyday, but that does not work either. 

Has anyone used Vectra flea treatment for cats. It has worked well for me for 
other cats, but I fear that it might be too strong for our Ash with the feline 
leukemia. As I said I used Frontline originally cause I was told it was safer 
because it could be used on young kittens even. Ash is 4 1/2 years old and I 
know I have to do something about the fleas. Please let me know if you have 
used Vectra flea treatment. Or if you use something else successfully or don't 
use flea treatment at all with feline leukemia. Ash never goes outside, so I 
don't know where they got the fleas unless at vet or we brought the fleas in 
from outside on shoes, etc. 

Please Helpthis is urgent as I feel I must do something to get rid of fleas 
that already seem out of hand since 2 treatments of Frontline did not work, and 
I am so worried about anything with Ash with his positive on the feline 
leukemia test at the vet and after loosing Cole. My heart just cant loose 
another of my fur babies. Please Help!!! 

Thank you, Karen and kitties Ash and BJ and angle Cole 




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Re: [Felvtalk] Urgent help with flea treatment question

2016-08-30 Thread Margo
I'm having flea issues, as well. Mako went to a specialist (for non-FeLV  related problems) and they recommended Comfortis. I had to order from Valley Vet, and gave it to him 8/26. So far so good. It seems to have done the job, but I also use flea traps, and treated the other cats as well. For most of the year, I was okay using (generic) Capstar and flea traps. -Original Message-
From: Karen Harshbarger <harshbargerka...@yahoo.com>
Sent: Aug 30, 2016 3:23 PM
To: Felvtalk <felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>
Subject: [Felvtalk] Urgent help with flea treatment question

  As most of you know, we lost our Cole to feline leukemia and liver complications this month.  I don't have time to morn my dear sweet Cole as I am struggling to save his brother Ash.  Ash tested positive again this month (4 years ago tested positive once and then negative twice).  However his blood work shows everything in the normal range and he is eating and playing and going to the bathroom and seems healthy, so the vet has recommended no treatment or preventatives at this time.  They only suggest another blood work check in one to 4 months and flea treatment.Ash and  his brother have fleas.  I know I must treat but that seems like when Cole started going downhillwhen I treated for fleas with Frontline twice.Frontline did nothing for the fleas, even though I threw away all beds and blankets and cleaned their living quarters.  I fear that the fleas or treatment or both did something to Cole to take his life.  But I know I have to treat fleas too.  I have tried combing everyday, but that does not work either.  Has anyone used Vectra flea treatment for cats.  It has worked well for me for other cats, but I fear that it might be too strong for our Ash with the feline leukemia.  As I said I used Frontline originally cause I was told it was safer because it could be used on young kittens even.  Ash is 4 1/2 years old and I know I have to do something about the fleas.  Please let me know if you have used Vectra flea treatment.  Or if you use something else successfully or don't use flea treatment at all with feline leukemia.  Ash never goes outside, so I don't know where they got the fleas unless at vet or we brought the fleas in from outside on shoes, etc.  Please Helpthis is urgent as I feel I must do something to get rid of fleas that already seem out of hand since 2 treatments of Frontline did not work, and I am so worried about anything with Ash with his positive on the feline leukemia test at the vet and after loosing Cole.  My heart just cant loose another of my fur babies.  Please Help!!!Thank you, Karen and kitties Ash and BJ and angle Cole

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Re: [Felvtalk] Urgent help with flea treatment question

2016-08-30 Thread dlgegg
I stopped usiong any flea drops, collars when one of my cats began loosing hair 
around the sit of applicatio.  They all had physical adverse signs so I stopped 
using them.  I now have lemon grass and catnip which repels fleas and ticks and 
have not had a problem for the last 5 years.

 Amani Oakley <aoak...@oakleylegal.com> wrote: 
> Hi Karen
> 
> While I don’t have any reason to believe there is a link between use of the 
> Frontline Flea treatment and Cole’s problems, it is probably wise to be 
> cautious with a medication which is absorbed internally and probably 
> processed through the liver, etc. Just hypothetically, it might be possible 
> that cats with FeLV which is in abeyance (their body has managed to hold off 
> on the worst of the problems) may have the balance tipped to the negative by 
> something that might stress their body and which might, in other cats, not 
> cause a problem.
> 
> However, I definitely agree you MUST control the fleas for Ash. As you know, 
> one of the worst effects of the FeLV virus is to cause an anemia, and a flea 
> infestation will no doubt hasten or worsen that problem. Fleas also often 
> pass on the Bartonella parasite, which infects and destroys red cells in the 
> host animal and causes other problems. If Ash is doing okay, you don’t want 
> to tip that scale.
> 
> I recently picked up 3 stray kittens who had fleas. They were very small (3-4 
> weeks old) so I didn’t trust any of the absorbed treatments since I figured 
> their little livers may well be damaged by such early exposure. I therefore 
> purchased a flea spray which was supposed to remain on them, but again, I 
> didn’t want to do that. I didn’t want that type of exposure. I simply bathed 
> them, sprayed them with the flea spray, killed the fleas by hand as they 
> leapt off into the sink, and combed out the rest, and then I washed the 
> kittens completely off with organic shampoo. Despite washing them off, I 
> found a few remaining fleas for the next day or so but they were all dead or 
> dying. When I go home tonight, I will get the name of the product for you, 
> but I suspect you can do this with any of the spray on flea products.
> 
> One thing I did years ago when we got a very bad flea infestation (thanks to 
> a woman who insisted the cats I was taking from her to adopt out were 
> defleaed already!), was that once I washed each cat, I had previously made 
> arrangements for friends to take one of them for a few weeks. My husband and 
> I were doing some heavy duty fostering at the time, so we had about 25 cats 
> in the house. One by one or two by two, I cleaned them off, bundled them off 
> to friends I had prearranged with, and then when the whole house was empty, 
> we washed whatever we could, and we used some heavy duty flea killer on 
> carpets, etc. and my husband and I spent a few nights at a motel room. We 
> never had any more flea problems after that.
> 
> You only have one cat so if the problem is bad enough, I suggest something 
> along the lines of what we did. Find a friend or a relative who will take Ash 
> for a week or so, when he’s out, wash everything in sight, and buy some high 
> powered flea stuff and spray the house. Leave for a few days.
> 
> Hopefully, it works as well for you as it did for us.
> 
> Amani
> 
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
> Karen Harshbarger
> Sent: August-30-16 3:24 PM
> To: Felvtalk
> Subject: [Felvtalk] Urgent help with flea treatment question
> 
>   As most of you know, we lost our Cole to feline leukemia and liver 
> complications this month.  I don't have time to morn my dear sweet Cole as I 
> am struggling to save his brother Ash.  Ash tested positive again this month 
> (4 years ago tested positive once and then negative twice).  However his 
> blood work shows everything in the normal range and he is eating and playing 
> and going to the bathroom and seems healthy, so the vet has recommended no 
> treatment or preventatives at this time.  They only suggest another blood 
> work check in one to 4 months and flea treatment.
> 
> Ash and  his brother have fleas.  I know I must treat but that seems like 
> when Cole started going downhillwhen I treated for fleas with Frontline 
> twice.
> Frontline did nothing for the fleas, even though I threw away all beds and 
> blankets and cleaned their living quarters.  I fear that the fleas or 
> treatment or both did something to Cole to take his life.  But I know I have 
> to treat fleas too.  I have tried combing everyday, but that does not work 
> either.
> 
> Has anyone used Vectra flea treatment for cats.  It has worked well for me 
> for other cats, but I fear that it might be too strong for our Ash 

Re: [Felvtalk] Urgent help with flea treatment question

2016-08-30 Thread Amani Oakley
Hi Karen

While I don’t have any reason to believe there is a link between use of the 
Frontline Flea treatment and Cole’s problems, it is probably wise to be 
cautious with a medication which is absorbed internally and probably processed 
through the liver, etc. Just hypothetically, it might be possible that cats 
with FeLV which is in abeyance (their body has managed to hold off on the worst 
of the problems) may have the balance tipped to the negative by something that 
might stress their body and which might, in other cats, not cause a problem.

However, I definitely agree you MUST control the fleas for Ash. As you know, 
one of the worst effects of the FeLV virus is to cause an anemia, and a flea 
infestation will no doubt hasten or worsen that problem. Fleas also often pass 
on the Bartonella parasite, which infects and destroys red cells in the host 
animal and causes other problems. If Ash is doing okay, you don’t want to tip 
that scale.

I recently picked up 3 stray kittens who had fleas. They were very small (3-4 
weeks old) so I didn’t trust any of the absorbed treatments since I figured 
their little livers may well be damaged by such early exposure. I therefore 
purchased a flea spray which was supposed to remain on them, but again, I 
didn’t want to do that. I didn’t want that type of exposure. I simply bathed 
them, sprayed them with the flea spray, killed the fleas by hand as they leapt 
off into the sink, and combed out the rest, and then I washed the kittens 
completely off with organic shampoo. Despite washing them off, I found a few 
remaining fleas for the next day or so but they were all dead or dying. When I 
go home tonight, I will get the name of the product for you, but I suspect you 
can do this with any of the spray on flea products.

One thing I did years ago when we got a very bad flea infestation (thanks to a 
woman who insisted the cats I was taking from her to adopt out were defleaed 
already!), was that once I washed each cat, I had previously made arrangements 
for friends to take one of them for a few weeks. My husband and I were doing 
some heavy duty fostering at the time, so we had about 25 cats in the house. 
One by one or two by two, I cleaned them off, bundled them off to friends I had 
prearranged with, and then when the whole house was empty, we washed whatever 
we could, and we used some heavy duty flea killer on carpets, etc. and my 
husband and I spent a few nights at a motel room. We never had any more flea 
problems after that.

You only have one cat so if the problem is bad enough, I suggest something 
along the lines of what we did. Find a friend or a relative who will take Ash 
for a week or so, when he’s out, wash everything in sight, and buy some high 
powered flea stuff and spray the house. Leave for a few days.

Hopefully, it works as well for you as it did for us.

Amani

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Karen 
Harshbarger
Sent: August-30-16 3:24 PM
To: Felvtalk
Subject: [Felvtalk] Urgent help with flea treatment question

  As most of you know, we lost our Cole to feline leukemia and liver 
complications this month.  I don't have time to morn my dear sweet Cole as I am 
struggling to save his brother Ash.  Ash tested positive again this month (4 
years ago tested positive once and then negative twice).  However his blood 
work shows everything in the normal range and he is eating and playing and 
going to the bathroom and seems healthy, so the vet has recommended no 
treatment or preventatives at this time.  They only suggest another blood work 
check in one to 4 months and flea treatment.

Ash and  his brother have fleas.  I know I must treat but that seems like when 
Cole started going downhillwhen I treated for fleas with Frontline twice.
Frontline did nothing for the fleas, even though I threw away all beds and 
blankets and cleaned their living quarters.  I fear that the fleas or treatment 
or both did something to Cole to take his life.  But I know I have to treat 
fleas too.  I have tried combing everyday, but that does not work either.

Has anyone used Vectra flea treatment for cats.  It has worked well for me for 
other cats, but I fear that it might be too strong for our Ash with the feline 
leukemia.  As I said I used Frontline originally cause I was told it was safer 
because it could be used on young kittens even.  Ash is 4 1/2 years old and I 
know I have to do something about the fleas.  Please let me know if you have 
used Vectra flea treatment.  Or if you use something else successfully or don't 
use flea treatment at all with feline leukemia.  Ash never goes outside, so I 
don't know where they got the fleas unless at vet or we brought the fleas in 
from outside on shoes, etc.

Please Helpthis is urgent as I feel I must do something to get rid of fleas 
that already seem out of hand since 2 treatments of Frontline did not work, and 
I am so worried about anything with Ash with his

[Felvtalk] Urgent help with flea treatment question

2016-08-30 Thread Karen Harshbarger
  As most of you know, we lost our Cole to feline leukemia and liver 
complications this month.  I don't have time to morn my dear sweet Cole as I am 
struggling to save his brother Ash.  Ash tested positive again this month (4 
years ago tested positive once and then negative twice).  However his blood 
work shows everything in the normal range and he is eating and playing and 
going to the bathroom and seems healthy, so the vet has recommended no 
treatment or preventatives at this time.  They only suggest another blood work 
check in one to 4 months and flea treatment.
Ash and  his brother have fleas.  I know I must treat but that seems like when 
Cole started going downhillwhen I treated for fleas with Frontline 
twice.Frontline did nothing for the fleas, even though I threw away all beds 
and blankets and cleaned their living quarters.  I fear that the fleas or 
treatment or both did something to Cole to take his life.  But I know I have to 
treat fleas too.  I have tried combing everyday, but that does not work either. 
 
Has anyone used Vectra flea treatment for cats.  It has worked well for me for 
other cats, but I fear that it might be too strong for our Ash with the feline 
leukemia.  As I said I used Frontline originally cause I was told it was safer 
because it could be used on young kittens even.  Ash is 4 1/2 years old and I 
know I have to do something about the fleas.  Please let me know if you have 
used Vectra flea treatment.  Or if you use something else successfully or don't 
use flea treatment at all with feline leukemia.  Ash never goes outside, so I 
don't know where they got the fleas unless at vet or we brought the fleas in 
from outside on shoes, etc.  
Please Helpthis is urgent as I feel I must do something to get rid of fleas 
that already seem out of hand since 2 treatments of Frontline did not work, and 
I am so worried about anything with Ash with his positive on the feline 
leukemia test at the vet and after loosing Cole.  My heart just cant loose 
another of my fur babies.  Please Help!!!
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Re: [Felvtalk] Go Fund Me account help for SC

2016-06-05 Thread Amani Oakley
Hi Ardy

Thanks for your supportive comments.

Thanks also for asking about the GoFundMe website for Sharon.

Here is the link again.

https://www.gofundme.com/7rnkx4ry

Thanks again for anything you are able to spare.

Amani

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Ardy 
Robertson
Sent: June-05-16 8:04 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Go Fund Me account help for SC

Hi everyone,
So far the go-fund-me account seems to be the best option in my opinion. If 
someone could repost the link, I will donate again. Possibly this fund could 
help to get them into one of the mobile homes Amani found. In that case the son 
will have a place to be and care for the animals while his mom undergoes her 
transplant.
Thanks,
Ardy


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[Felvtalk] Go Fund Me account help for SC

2016-06-05 Thread Ardy Robertson
Hi everyone,

So far the go-fund-me account seems to be the best option in my opinion. If
someone could repost the link, I will donate again. Possibly this fund could
help to get them into one of the mobile homes Amani found. In that case the
son will have a place to be and care for the animals while his mom undergoes
her transplant.

Thanks,

Ardy

 

 

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[Felvtalk] FW: Can we try to help this woman who is helping cats??

2016-06-03 Thread Amani Oakley
We’re up OVER $1300 in the GoFundMe Campaign!!! This is TERRIFIC.

Amani

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
Katherine K.
Sent: June-02-16 8:49 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Can we try to help this woman who is helping cats??

Thank you, Amani.

On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 12:33 AM, Ardy Robertson 
<ar...@centurytel.net<mailto:ar...@centurytel.net>> wrote:
Are they allowing her to keep her pets in this hotel? Or are they somewhere 
else?

Thank you,
Ardy
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Re: [Felvtalk] Can we try to help this woman who is helping cats??

2016-06-02 Thread Katherine K.
Thank you, Amani.

On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 12:33 AM, Ardy Robertson <ar...@centurytel.net>
wrote:

> Are they allowing her to keep her pets in this hotel? Or are they
> somewhere else?
>
>
>
> Thank you,
>
> Ardy
>
>
>
> *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf
> Of *Amani Oakley
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 1, 2016 7:02 PM
>
> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Can we try to help this woman who is helping
> cats??
>
>
>
> Hey folks. This is amazing! We are up to $660 in just two hours! Thanks so
> much to those of you donating.
>
>
>
> Amani
>
>
>
> *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
> <felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org>] *On Behalf Of *Amani Oakley
> *Sent:* June-01-16 6:47 PM
> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org; Margo
> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Can we try to help this woman who is helping
> cats??
>
>
>
> Thanks to Margo, who got the ball rolling right away, we are already up to
> $560 in donations to Sharon’s GoFundMe Campaign, in just a few hours. What
> a generous bunch we are! It would be great if we could get to $600 today.
> Anyone else able to chip in $40 or $50?
>
>
>
> Amani
>
>
>
> *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
> <felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org>] *On Behalf Of *Amani Oakley
> *Sent:* June-01-16 5:38 PM
> *To:* Margo; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Can we try to help this woman who is helping
> cats??
>
>
>
> Thanks Margo. Any assistance you can give would be tremendous. I think she
> is in North Charleston if that sounds right to you. She is staying at the
> Red Roof Inn, I think it’s called, - the North Charleston Coliseum one.
>
>
>
> Thanks again.
>
>
>
> Amani
>
>
>
> *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
> <felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org>] *On Behalf Of *Margo
> *Sent:* June-01-16 5:33 PM
> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Can we try to help this woman who is helping
> cats??
>
>
>
>
> Amani,
>
>   I will help, but I can't seem to get back to the posts
> that tell where she is. I know I saw it, and I'm pretty sure it was towards
> the coast. I'm in NW SC, too far to actually be of hands-on help. I do have
> someone near Columbia, but that may not be near enough.
>
>   I'll check the GoFundMe, that may answer some
> questions...
>
> Margo
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Amani Oakley
> Sent: Jun 1, 2016 4:06 PM
> To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org"
> Subject: [Felvtalk] Can we try to help this woman who is helping cats??
>
> Hi Everyone
>
>
>
> A while back, a member of this group posted about a woman in South
> Carolina who needed help in placing some cats, one of whom was FeLV
> positive and 9 years old, so obviously would be immediately put down if
> taken to a shelter. The woman was about to lose her own housing and was
> trying to place these cats so they would not be homeless
> too.
>
>
>
>
> The woman, Sharon Follin Jowers, was desperately trying to find homes for
> her five older cats and her son’s dog, before being forced to live on the
> street. When I heard about her, my heart went out to her because Sharon
> clearly was motivated first and foremost about concern for where her
> animals were going to end up if she became homeless.
>
>
>
> I spent quite a while looking into the situation because, frankly, I
> wanted to know if there was a better answer than placing her adult animals
> with strangers and her losing her house. I also wanted to be sure that it
> wasn’t a scam.
>
>
>
> I have now spoken to Sharon on a few occasions, and emailed back and forth
> with her. I think that not only is her situation legit, but it is far worse
> than I initially imagined. She has severe COPD and was approved for a
> double-lung transplant, but that is now in jeopardy because she doesn’t
> have stable housing nor a car to get her to the city where the transplant
> was to take place, along with the numerous treatments before and after the
> transplant. She lives on oxygen and can barely move around and is so
> emaciated it is disturbing. Not surprisingly, this is very much hampering
> her ability to find new housing.
>
>
>
> The issue with the housing, as best as I can understand it as a Canadian
> and not being familiar with South Carolina, etc., is that she had
> accommodations which were paid for by the state, but that housing had to
> meet certain standards. Her landlord refused t

Re: [Felvtalk] Can we help this woman

2016-06-02 Thread Marsha
Some shelters in northern states are actually importing dogs from 
southern shelters.  Not cats, though.  I did get my last FeLV+ cat (RIP 
sweet Brock) from a shelter nearly 2 hours away.  He was there 3 months 
before I adopted him.


Marsha


On 6/2/2016 6:23 AM, Margo wrote:
Robert wrote; "There really are NO rescue groups in her vicinity that 
would hold on to her animals until she got better settled??   That is 
SO sad  there are quite a few up here that would do itas well 
as shelters that will NOT kill them as long as she takes them back in 
a reasonable amount of time..."


   Part of the issue it that we don't have anyone 
physically "there", and familiar with the area and it's resources. 
Someone who could connect with this family and facilitate what CAN be 
accomplished.


   I know around here, no-one would be able to do 
what you suggest, housing a mixed group of animals for an undetermined 
time would basically put most of their rescue work on hold. They're 
not set up for long-term fosters of groups of animals, especially for 
an undetermined time.


BUT! If you could connect with those groups 
near you, they might have contacts in the Charleston area that could 
do the same thing. Rescues are often networked with other similar 
organizations, and work in similar ways. Most I work with are "foster 
based", meaning they take one or two pets, and place them in private 
homes while working to find permanent placement. What this family 
needs is a "group home". A place that has no resident animals, but is 
willing to take on take 6 animals with no idea for how long. I would 
LOVE to be wrong, so maybe the groups you know can lead the way...


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Re: [Felvtalk] Can we help this woman

2016-06-02 Thread Margo
Robert wrote; "There really are NO rescue groups in her vicinity that would hold on to 
her animals until she got better settled??   That is SO sad  there 
are quite a few up here that would do itas well as shelters that 
will NOT kill them as long as she takes them back in a reasonable amount
 of time..."   Part of the issue it that we don't have anyone physically "there", and familiar with the area and it's resources. Someone who could connect with this family and facilitate what CAN be accomplished.    I know around here, no-one would be able to do what you suggest, housing a mixed group of animals for an undetermined time would basically put most of their rescue work on hold. They're not set up for long-term fosters of groups of animals, especially for an undetermined time.    BUT! If you could connect with those groups near you, they might have contacts in the Charleston area that could do the same thing. Rescues are often networked with other similar organizations, and work in similar ways. Most I work with are "foster based", meaning they take one or two pets, and place them in private homes while working to find permanent placement. What this family needs is a "group home". A place that has no resident animals, but is willing to take on take 6 animals with no idea for how long. I would LOVE to be wrong, so maybe the groups you know can lead the way...Margo-Original Message-
From: ROBERT CHAPEL <bcha...@optonline.net>
Sent: Jun 1, 2016 8:32 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Can we help this woman

Looks like my most  recent idea is a bust   I get the impression from the last posts I see that she is WITH her animals in this motel.There really are NO rescue groups in her vicinity that would hold on to her animals until she got better settled??   That is SO sad  there are quite a few up here that would do itas well as shelters that will NOT kill them as long as she takes them back in a reasonable amount of time...You folks are phenomenal in what you are doing for this woman I'll contribute what I can

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Re: [Felvtalk] Can we help this woman.....

2016-06-02 Thread Margo
Just because I don't know how familiar everyone is with public Shelter policies, "Owner Surrendered" animals are first to be euthanized. It's generally a space issue, too many animals, and no place to put them. The FeLV cat is done as soon as the paperwork is complete. S/he will either go straight there, or into a holding cage until the next euthanasia session."No-kill" Shelters generally have long waiting lists, contingencies and most do not accept FeLV cats.It's a bad situation.Margo-Original Message-
From: Amani Oakley <aoak...@oakleylegal.com>
Sent: Jun 1, 2016 8:29 PM
To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" <felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Can we help this woman.





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Hi Robert
 
I don’t think it is an option for her to check into a hospital because the animals would likely then be confiscated and she is very worried about them. I am so
 impressed with her refusal to hand them over to a shelter. She tried to do that on one occasion, but they wanted her to sign a form saying they had full authority to do whatever they wanted with the animals, so she refused to sign and went home again with
 her animals.
 
She is currently in a motel which allows animals, so yes, they are with her right now. Her son is also staying with her to help her out and the only income coming
 in is from his part-time employment. I guess that is what they are using to feed the animals and to buy some groceries. She told me that a woman had called her and offered to buy them some groceries, and she asked instead if the woman would be willing to pay
 for a vet visit for one of her cats, so that was what the donor did.
 
I understand completely where you’re coming from Robert, in terms of spending all your money on your cats. With respect to time, what I really need is someone
 to help me locate a good deal (I have done a great deal of searching on Kijiji and found a few excellent ones no one has responded to my emails), and to inspect the mobile home/small home and to finalize the deal. The longer she is in the motel, the more money
 has to go to the rental rather than the mobile home. Several of the ones I saw had “rent to own” options, so ideally, she could put any extra money towards that option rather than paying for the motel room.
 
I agree with you that she needs social assistance and I think she was getting assistance with her housing until she got evicted early this year. Problem is her
 Form 8 is expiring on Monday and she hasn’t found a place that will accept the form and which fits the criteria set out in the Form 8 form. Frankly, though, if I can get her into some other form of permanent housing like a mobile form, she should be okay.
 
I also agree with you Robert that we are all very gun-shy about getting scammed. I confess that this is why it took me so long to get going on this (in addition
 to my insane work commitments!). I wanted to speak with her, check out her story as much as possible, etc. I mean, there’s no way to check things out 100% of course, but I think she is legit – especially when she does things like redirect donor money away
 from herself and to pay her vet instead.
 
Amani
 
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org]
On Behalf Of ROBERT CHAPEL
Sent: June-01-16 8:12 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Can we help this woman.
 




Having a hard time ( as usual) getting this all straight in the digest formie... where this woman and her cats actually stand at the momentbut...

 


I would suggest, as a possibility,  ( and I can only remember 2 instances when I have made this suggestion) that she have herself admitted to the local hospital and tell them she has NO where
 to go upon dischargethough should not admit this up front. The last 11 yrs of my life I worked as a Hospital ER and Inpatient Social Worker  and Hospitals ( at least in NYS) are not allowed to discharge patients who are homeless and in need of medical
 services post discharge  This will put a discharge planner on the case who will assist with finding a place for her to live.  Admittedly...   it will not be the perfect arrangement but might buy her some time and will definitely be better than nothing.
 I could say with assurance if she lived in NYS that this would BE a good answer SC could well be different If I could speak with her directly I would know better if this could be an answer for her  ( are her animals all still with her at this point??)   



I have time I could devote to this but precious little extra money my own cats are eating up my expendable income


 


I cannot tell you how many times I was severely scammed by people doing this simply TO get housing. bout time the 

Re: [Felvtalk] Can we help this woman.....

2016-06-02 Thread Margo
Kelley wrote;"The south is MUCH different from New York State.  It is much cheaper to 
live here and there are correspondingly fewer services.  I could never 
dream of having a lot of stuff they have in NYS."   Very true. And her inability to get around doesn't help, I'm sure.Margo-Original Message-
From: Kelley S <moonv...@gmail.com>
Sent: Jun 1, 2016 8:22 PM
To: felvtalk <felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Can we help this woman.

The south is MUCH different from New York State.  It is much cheaper to live here and there are correspondingly fewer services.  I could never dream of having a lot of stuff they have in NYS.  On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 7:12 PM, ROBERT CHAPEL <bcha...@optonline.net> wrote:Having a hard time ( as usual) getting this all straight in the digest formie... where this woman and her cats actually stand at the momentbut...I would suggest, as a possibility,  ( and I can only remember 2 instances when I have made this suggestion) that she have herself admitted to the local hospital and tell them she has NO where to go upon dischargethough should not admit this up front. The last 11 yrs of my life I worked as a Hospital ER and Inpatient Social Worker  and Hospitals ( at least in NYS) are not allowed to discharge patients who are homeless and in need of medical services post discharge  This will put a discharge planner on the case who will assist with finding a place for her to live.  Admittedly...   it will not be the perfect arrangement but might buy her some time and will definitely be better than nothing. I could say with assurance if she lived in NYS that this would BE a good answer SC could well be different If I could speak with her directly I would know better if this could be an answer for her  ( are her animals all still with her at this point??)    I have time I could devote to this but precious little extra money my own cats are eating up my expendable incomeI cannot tell you how many times I was severely scammed by people doing this simply TO get housing. bout time the secret was out for someone who deserves the assistance ( legitimate decent people seldom DO this intentionally)  Just a suggestion I'm also wondering if she has home health services??  Health Insurance??  Likely has state Medicaid given her situation and the Section 8 approval.   She NEEDS state Social Services involved ___
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Re: [Felvtalk] Can we try to help this woman who is helping cats??

2016-06-01 Thread Ardy Robertson
Are they allowing her to keep her pets in this hotel? Or are they somewhere 
else?

 

Thank you,

Ardy

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amani 
Oakley
Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2016 7:02 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Can we try to help this woman who is helping cats??

 

Hey folks. This is amazing! We are up to $660 in just two hours! Thanks so much 
to those of you donating.

 

Amani

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amani 
Oakley
Sent: June-01-16 6:47 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org <mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> ; Margo
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Can we try to help this woman who is helping cats??

 

Thanks to Margo, who got the ball rolling right away, we are already up to $560 
in donations to Sharon’s GoFundMe Campaign, in just a few hours. What a 
generous bunch we are! It would be great if we could get to $600 today. Anyone 
else able to chip in $40 or $50?

 

Amani

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amani 
Oakley
Sent: June-01-16 5:38 PM
To: Margo; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org <mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Can we try to help this woman who is helping cats??

 

Thanks Margo. Any assistance you can give would be tremendous. I think she is 
in North Charleston if that sounds right to you. She is staying at the Red Roof 
Inn, I think it’s called, - the North Charleston Coliseum one.

 

Thanks again.

 

Amani

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Margo
Sent: June-01-16 5:33 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org <mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Can we try to help this woman who is helping cats??

 


Amani, 

      I will help, but I can't seem to get back to the posts that 
tell where she is. I know I saw it, and I'm pretty sure it was towards the 
coast. I'm in NW SC, too far to actually be of hands-on help. I do have someone 
near Columbia, but that may not be near enough.

  I'll check the GoFundMe, that may answer some questions...

Margo
 

-Original Message- 
From: Amani Oakley 
Sent: Jun 1, 2016 4:06 PM 
To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org <mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> " 
Subject: [Felvtalk] Can we try to help this woman who is helping cats?? 

Hi Everyone

 

A while back, a member of this group posted about a woman in South Carolina who 
needed help in placing some cats, one of whom was FeLV positive and 9 years 
old, so obviously would be immediately put down if taken to a shelter. The 
woman was about to lose her own housing and was trying to place these cats so 
they would not be homeless too. 

 

 

The woman, Sharon Follin Jowers, was desperately trying to find homes for her 
five older cats and her son’s dog, before being forced to live on the street. 
When I heard about her, my heart went out to her because Sharon clearly was 
motivated first and foremost about concern for where her animals were going to 
end up if she became homeless.

 

I spent quite a while looking into the situation because, frankly, I wanted to 
know if there was a better answer than placing her adult animals with strangers 
and her losing her house. I also wanted to be sure that it wasn’t a scam.

 

I have now spoken to Sharon on a few occasions, and emailed back and forth with 
her. I think that not only is her situation legit, but it is far worse than I 
initially imagined. She has severe COPD and was approved for a double-lung 
transplant, but that is now in jeopardy because she doesn’t have stable housing 
nor a car to get her to the city where the transplant was to take place, along 
with the numerous treatments before and after the transplant. She lives on 
oxygen and can barely move around and is so emaciated it is disturbing. Not 
surprisingly, this is very much hampering her ability to find new housing.

 

The issue with the housing, as best as I can understand it as a Canadian and 
not being familiar with South Carolina, etc., is that she had accommodations 
which were paid for by the state, but that housing had to meet certain 
standards. Her landlord refused to fix the plumbing and there was mold found 
from previous flooding, and so the state refused to pay him and he evicted her. 
She paid her part of her January rent but the state did not pay its share 
because of the condition of disrepair. She was evicted shortly after that. She 
has a Form 8 (I think) certificate which means that if she can find appropriate 
housing, the state will cover the rent, but she has not been able to find any 
accommodations which satisfy the state and medical requirements – for example, 
the place

Re: [Felvtalk] Can we help this woman.....

2016-06-01 Thread Amani Oakley
Hi Robert

I don’t think it is an option for her to check into a hospital because the 
animals would likely then be confiscated and she is very worried about them. I 
am so impressed with her refusal to hand them over to a shelter. She tried to 
do that on one occasion, but they wanted her to sign a form saying they had 
full authority to do whatever they wanted with the animals, so she refused to 
sign and went home again with her animals.

She is currently in a motel which allows animals, so yes, they are with her 
right now. Her son is also staying with her to help her out and the only income 
coming in is from his part-time employment. I guess that is what they are using 
to feed the animals and to buy some groceries. She told me that a woman had 
called her and offered to buy them some groceries, and she asked instead if the 
woman would be willing to pay for a vet visit for one of her cats, so that was 
what the donor did.

I understand completely where you’re coming from Robert, in terms of spending 
all your money on your cats. With respect to time, what I really need is 
someone to help me locate a good deal (I have done a great deal of searching on 
Kijiji and found a few excellent ones no one has responded to my emails), and 
to inspect the mobile home/small home and to finalize the deal. The longer she 
is in the motel, the more money has to go to the rental rather than the mobile 
home. Several of the ones I saw had “rent to own” options, so ideally, she 
could put any extra money towards that option rather than paying for the motel 
room.

I agree with you that she needs social assistance and I think she was getting 
assistance with her housing until she got evicted early this year. Problem is 
her Form 8 is expiring on Monday and she hasn’t found a place that will accept 
the form and which fits the criteria set out in the Form 8 form. Frankly, 
though, if I can get her into some other form of permanent housing like a 
mobile form, she should be okay.

I also agree with you Robert that we are all very gun-shy about getting 
scammed. I confess that this is why it took me so long to get going on this (in 
addition to my insane work commitments!). I wanted to speak with her, check out 
her story as much as possible, etc. I mean, there’s no way to check things out 
100% of course, but I think she is legit – especially when she does things like 
redirect donor money away from herself and to pay her vet instead.

Amani

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of ROBERT 
CHAPEL
Sent: June-01-16 8:12 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Can we help this woman.




Having a hard time ( as usual) getting this all straight in the digest 
formie... where this woman and her cats actually stand at the 
momentbut...

I would suggest, as a possibility,  ( and I can only remember 2 instances when 
I have made this suggestion) that she have herself admitted to the local 
hospital and tell them she has NO where to go upon dischargethough should 
not admit this up front. The last 11 yrs of my life I worked as a Hospital 
ER and Inpatient Social Worker  and Hospitals ( at least in NYS) are not 
allowed to discharge patients who are homeless and in need of medical services 
post discharge  This will put a discharge planner on the case who will 
assist with finding a place for her to live.  Admittedly...   it will not 
be the perfect arrangement but might buy her some time and will definitely be 
better than nothing. I could say with assurance if she lived in NYS 
that this would BE a good answer SC could well be different If I 
could speak with her directly I would know better if this could be an answer 
for her  ( are her animals all still with her at this point??)
I have time I could devote to this but precious little extra money my own 
cats are eating up my expendable income

I cannot tell you how many times I was severely scammed by people doing this 
simply TO get housing. bout time the secret was out for someone who 
deserves the assistance ( legitimate decent people seldom DO this 
intentionally)  Just a suggestion I'm also wondering if she has 
home health services??  Health Insurance??  Likely has state Medicaid given her 
situation and the Section 8 approval.   She NEEDS state Social Services 
involved

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Re: [Felvtalk] Can we help this woman.....

2016-06-01 Thread Kelley S
The south is MUCH different from New York State.  It is much cheaper to
live here and there are correspondingly fewer services.  I could never
dream of having a lot of stuff they have in NYS.

On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 7:12 PM, ROBERT CHAPEL  wrote:

>
>
>
> Having a hard time ( as usual) getting this all straight in the digest
> formie... where this woman and her cats actually stand at the
> momentbut...
>
> I would suggest, as a possibility,  ( and I can only remember 2 instances
> when I have made this suggestion) that she have herself admitted to the
> local hospital and tell them she has NO where to go upon
> dischargethough should not admit this up front. The last 11 yrs of
> my life I worked as a Hospital ER and Inpatient Social Worker  and
> Hospitals ( at least in NYS) are not allowed to discharge patients who are
> homeless and in need of medical services post discharge  This will put
> a discharge planner on the case who will assist with finding a place for
> her to live.  Admittedly...   it will not be the perfect arrangement
> but might buy her some time and will definitely be better than
> nothing. I could say with assurance if she lived in NYS that this
> would BE a good answer SC could well be different If I could
> speak with her directly I would know better if this could be an answer for
> her  ( are her animals all still with her at this point??)
> I have time I could devote to this but precious little extra money my
> own cats are eating up my expendable income
>
> I cannot tell you how many times I was severely scammed by people doing
> this simply TO get housing. bout time the secret was out for someone
> who deserves the assistance ( legitimate decent people seldom DO this
> intentionally)  Just a suggestion I'm also wondering if she
> has home health services??  Health Insurance??  Likely has state Medicaid
> given her situation and the Section 8 approval.   She NEEDS state
> Social Services involved
>
>
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Re: [Felvtalk] Can we try to help this woman who is helping cats??

2016-06-01 Thread Amani Oakley
By the way – I think it is one of the few places that will allow animals.

Amani

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Margo
Sent: June-01-16 8:07 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Can we try to help this woman who is helping cats??


Maybe this one?

https://www.redroof.com/property/North-Charleston/SC/29406-4025/Hotels-close-to-Charleston-Airport-North-Charleston-Coliseum-Convention-Center-I-26-US-78/RRI142/

If it is, they're getting a deal, at least. The management must be pretty 
easy-going...:(

Margo
-Original Message-
From: swacht
Sent: Jun 1, 2016 6:46 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Can we try to help this woman who is helping cats??


can we find out for sure where this lady is – please
Sandy W

From: Amani Oakley<mailto:aoak...@oakleylegal.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 5:37 PM
To: Margo<mailto:toomanykitti...@earthlink.net> ; 
felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Can we try to help this woman who is helping cats??

Thanks Margo. Any assistance you can give would be tremendous. I think she is 
in North Charleston if that sounds right to you. She is staying at the Red Roof 
Inn, I think it’s called, - the North Charleston Coliseum one.

Thanks again.

Amani

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Margo
Sent: June-01-16 5:33 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Can we try to help this woman who is helping cats??


Amani,

  I will help, but I can't seem to get back to the posts that 
tell where she is. I know I saw it, and I'm pretty sure it was towards the 
coast. I'm in NW SC, too far to actually be of hands-on help. I do have someone 
near Columbia, but that may not be near enough.

  I'll check the GoFundMe, that may answer some questions...

Margo

-Original Message-
From: Amani Oakley
Sent: Jun 1, 2016 4:06 PM
To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>"
Subject: [Felvtalk] Can we try to help this woman who is helping cats??



Hi Everyone

A while back, a member of this group posted about a woman in South Carolina who 
needed help in placing some cats, one of whom was FeLV positive and 9 years 
old, so obviously would be immediately put down if taken to a shelter. The 
woman was about to lose her own housing and was trying to place these cats so 
they would not be homeless too.

The woman, Sharon Follin Jowers, was desperately trying to find homes for her 
five older cats and her son’s dog, before being forced to live on the street. 
When I heard about her, my heart went out to her because Sharon clearly was 
motivated first and foremost about concern for where her animals were going to 
end up if she became homeless.

I spent quite a while looking into the situation because, frankly, I wanted to 
know if there was a better answer than placing her adult animals with strangers 
and her losing her house. I also wanted to be sure that it wasn’t a scam.

I have now spoken to Sharon on a few occasions, and emailed back and forth with 
her. I think that not only is her situation legit, but it is far worse than I 
initially imagined. She has severe COPD and was approved for a double-lung 
transplant, but that is now in jeopardy because she doesn’t have stable housing 
nor a car to get her to the city where the transplant was to take place, along 
with the numerous treatments before and after the transplant. She lives on 
oxygen and can barely move around and is so emaciated it is disturbing. Not 
surprisingly, this is very much hampering her ability to find new housing.

The issue with the housing, as best as I can understand it as a Canadian and 
not being familiar with South Carolina, etc., is that she had accommodations 
which were paid for by the state, but that housing had to meet certain 
standards. Her landlord refused to fix the plumbing and there was mold found 
from previous flooding, and so the state refused to pay him and he evicted her. 
She paid her part of her January rent but the state did not pay its share 
because of the condition of disrepair. She was evicted shortly after that. She 
has a Form 8 (I think) certificate which means that if she can find appropriate 
housing, the state will cover the rent, but she has not been able to find any 
accommodations which satisfy the state and medical requirements – for example, 
the place has to have no stairs. This isn’t her intractability – it is what has 
been written down as a condition of the state funding the rent. Right now, she 
is in a one-bedroom motel room. The rent is daily (no discounts for longer 
stays) and it is $41.99 per night plus tax. This doesn’t seem like much until 
you realize that 10 days is over $400.

The money she had saved t

Re: [Felvtalk] Can we help this woman.....

2016-06-01 Thread ROBERT CHAPEL



Having a hard time ( as usual) getting this all straight in the digest 
formie... where this woman and her cats actually stand at the 
momentbut...


I would suggest, as a possibility,  ( and I can only remember 2 
instances when I have made this suggestion) that she have herself 
admitted to the local hospital and tell them she has NO where to go upon 
dischargethough should not admit this up front. The last 11 yrs 
of my life I worked as a Hospital ER and Inpatient Social Worker  and 
Hospitals ( at least in NYS) are not allowed to discharge patients who 
are homeless and in need of medical services post discharge  This 
will put a discharge planner on the case who will assist with finding a 
place for her to live.  Admittedly...   it will not be the perfect 
arrangement but might buy her some time and will definitely be better 
than nothing. I could say with assurance if she lived in NYS 
that this would BE a good answer SC could well be different 
If I could speak with her directly I would know better if this could be 
an answer for her  ( are her animals all still with her at this 
point??)   
I have time I could devote to this but precious little extra money 
my own cats are eating up my expendable income



I cannot tell you how many times I was severely scammed by people doing 
this simply TO get housing. bout time the secret was out for someone 
who deserves the assistance ( legitimate decent people seldom DO this 
intentionally)  Just a suggestion I'm also wondering if 
she has home health services??  Health Insurance??  Likely has state 
Medicaid given her situation and the Section 8 approval.   She NEEDS 
state Social Services involved




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Re: [Felvtalk] Can we try to help this woman who is helping cats??

2016-06-01 Thread Amani Oakley
Hey folks. This is amazing! We are up to $660 in just two hours! Thanks so much 
to those of you donating.

Amani

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amani 
Oakley
Sent: June-01-16 6:47 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org; Margo
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Can we try to help this woman who is helping cats??

Thanks to Margo, who got the ball rolling right away, we are already up to $560 
in donations to Sharon’s GoFundMe Campaign, in just a few hours. What a 
generous bunch we are! It would be great if we could get to $600 today. Anyone 
else able to chip in $40 or $50?

Amani

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amani 
Oakley
Sent: June-01-16 5:38 PM
To: Margo; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Can we try to help this woman who is helping cats??

Thanks Margo. Any assistance you can give would be tremendous. I think she is 
in North Charleston if that sounds right to you. She is staying at the Red Roof 
Inn, I think it’s called, - the North Charleston Coliseum one.

Thanks again.

Amani

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Margo
Sent: June-01-16 5:33 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Can we try to help this woman who is helping cats??


Amani,

  I will help, but I can't seem to get back to the posts that 
tell where she is. I know I saw it, and I'm pretty sure it was towards the 
coast. I'm in NW SC, too far to actually be of hands-on help. I do have someone 
near Columbia, but that may not be near enough.

  I'll check the GoFundMe, that may answer some questions...

Margo

-Original Message-
From: Amani Oakley
Sent: Jun 1, 2016 4:06 PM
To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>"
Subject: [Felvtalk] Can we try to help this woman who is helping cats??
Hi Everyone

A while back, a member of this group posted about a woman in South Carolina who 
needed help in placing some cats, one of whom was FeLV positive and 9 years 
old, so obviously would be immediately put down if taken to a shelter. The 
woman was about to lose her own housing and was trying to place these cats so 
they would not be homeless too.

The woman, Sharon Follin Jowers, was desperately trying to find homes for her 
five older cats and her son’s dog, before being forced to live on the street. 
When I heard about her, my heart went out to her because Sharon clearly was 
motivated first and foremost about concern for where her animals were going to 
end up if she became homeless.

I spent quite a while looking into the situation because, frankly, I wanted to 
know if there was a better answer than placing her adult animals with strangers 
and her losing her house. I also wanted to be sure that it wasn’t a scam.

I have now spoken to Sharon on a few occasions, and emailed back and forth with 
her. I think that not only is her situation legit, but it is far worse than I 
initially imagined. She has severe COPD and was approved for a double-lung 
transplant, but that is now in jeopardy because she doesn’t have stable housing 
nor a car to get her to the city where the transplant was to take place, along 
with the numerous treatments before and after the transplant. She lives on 
oxygen and can barely move around and is so emaciated it is disturbing. Not 
surprisingly, this is very much hampering her ability to find new housing.

The issue with the housing, as best as I can understand it as a Canadian and 
not being familiar with South Carolina, etc., is that she had accommodations 
which were paid for by the state, but that housing had to meet certain 
standards. Her landlord refused to fix the plumbing and there was mold found 
from previous flooding, and so the state refused to pay him and he evicted her. 
She paid her part of her January rent but the state did not pay its share 
because of the condition of disrepair. She was evicted shortly after that. She 
has a Form 8 (I think) certificate which means that if she can find appropriate 
housing, the state will cover the rent, but she has not been able to find any 
accommodations which satisfy the state and medical requirements – for example, 
the place has to have no stairs. This isn’t her intractability – it is what has 
been written down as a condition of the state funding the rent. Right now, she 
is in a one-bedroom motel room. The rent is daily (no discounts for longer 
stays) and it is $41.99 per night plus tax. This doesn’t seem like much until 
you realize that 10 days is over $400.

The money she had saved to buy an old used car to get to her treatments and to 
drive to the other city where the transplant was to be conducted, has instead 
gone to this rent. She only has until June 6th to find suitable housing or her 
Form 6 expires.

Her son is trying to help, but because of her very debilitated state, he canno

Re: [Felvtalk] Can we try to help this woman who is helping cats??

2016-06-01 Thread Margo
Maybe this one?https://www.redroof.com/property/North-Charleston/SC/29406-4025/Hotels-close-to-Charleston-Airport-North-Charleston-Coliseum-Convention-Center-I-26-US-78/RRI142/If it is, they're getting a deal, at least. The management must be pretty easy-going...:(Margo-Original Message-
From: swacht <swacht1...@comcast.net>
Sent: Jun 1, 2016 6:46 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Can we try to help this woman who is helping cats??









can we find out for sure where this lady is – please
Sandy W


 

From: Amani Oakley 
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 5:37 PM
To: Margo ; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Can we try to help this woman who is helping 
cats??
 


Thanks 
Margo. Any assistance you can give would be tremendous. I think she is in North 
Charleston if that sounds right to you. She is staying at the Red Roof Inn, I 
think it’s called, - the North Charleston Coliseum one.
 
Thanks 
again.
 
Amani
 


From: Felvtalk 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
MargoSent: June-01-16 5:33 PMTo: 
felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: [Felvtalk] Can we try to help 
this woman who is helping cats??
 

Amani, 
  
I will help, but I can't seem to get back to the posts that tell where she is. I 
know I saw it, and I'm pretty sure it was towards the coast. I'm in NW SC, too 
far to actually be of hands-on help. I do have someone near Columbia, but that 
may not be near 
enough.  
I'll check the GoFundMe, that may answer some 
questions...Margo 

-Original 
Message- From: Amani Oakley Sent: Jun 1, 2016 4:06 PM To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" 
Subject: [Felvtalk] Can we try to help this woman who is helping cats?? 


Hi 
Everyone

 

A while 
back, a member of this group posted about a woman in South Carolina who needed 
help in placing some cats, one of whom was FeLV positive and 9 years old, so 
obviously would be immediately put down if taken to a shelter. The woman was 
about to lose her own housing and was trying to place these cats so they would 
not be homeless 
too.  

 

The 
woman, Sharon Follin Jowers, was desperately trying to find homes for her five 
older cats and her son’s dog, before being forced to live on the street. When I 
heard about her, my heart went out to her because Sharon clearly was motivated 
first and foremost about concern for where her animals were going to end up if 
she became homeless.

 

I spent 
quite a while looking into the situation because, frankly, I wanted to know if 
there was a better answer than placing her adult animals with strangers and her 
losing her house. I also wanted to be sure that it wasn’t a 
scam.

 

I have 
now spoken to Sharon on a few occasions, and emailed back and forth with her. I 
think that not only is her situation legit, but it is far worse than I initially 
imagined. She has severe COPD and was approved for a double-lung transplant, but 
that is now in jeopardy because she doesn’t have stable housing nor a car to get 
her to the city where the transplant was to take place, along with the numerous 
treatments before and after the transplant. She lives on oxygen and can barely 
move around and is so emaciated it is disturbing. Not surprisingly, this is very 
much hampering her ability to find new housing.

 

The 
issue with the housing, as best as I can understand it as a Canadian and not 
being familiar with South Carolina, etc., is that she had accommodations which 
were paid for by the state, but that housing had to meet certain standards. Her 
landlord refused to fix the plumbing and there was mold found from previous 
flooding, and so the state refused to pay him and he evicted her. She paid her 
part of her January rent but the state did not pay its share because of the 
condition of disrepair. She was evicted shortly after that. She has a Form 8 (I 
think) certificate which means that if she can find appropriate housing, the 
state will cover the rent, but she has not been able to find any accommodations 
which satisfy the state and medical requirements – for example, the place has to 
have no stairs. This isn’t her intractability – it is what has been written down 
as a condition of the state funding the rent. Right now, she is in a one-bedroom 
motel room. The rent is daily (no discounts for longer stays) and it is $41.99 
per night plus tax. This doesn’t seem like much until you realize that 10 days 
is over $400.

 

The 
money she had saved to buy an old used car to get to her treatments and to drive 
to the other city where the transplant was to be conducted, has instead gone to 
this rent. She only has until June 6th to 
find suitable housing or her Form 6 expires.

 

Her son 
is trying to help, but bec

Re: [Felvtalk] Can we try to help this woman who is helping cats??

2016-06-01 Thread Amani Oakley
When I looked again at your email, I am not sure if what you mean is if I have 
checked she is where I posted previously she is located. I did check because I 
spoke to the front desk when I donated towards her rent. Is that what you mean?

Amani

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of swacht
Sent: June-01-16 6:46 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Can we try to help this woman who is helping cats??

can we find out for sure where this lady is – please
Sandy W

From: Amani Oakley<mailto:aoak...@oakleylegal.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 5:37 PM
To: Margo<mailto:toomanykitti...@earthlink.net> ; 
felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Can we try to help this woman who is helping cats??

Thanks Margo. Any assistance you can give would be tremendous. I think she is 
in North Charleston if that sounds right to you. She is staying at the Red Roof 
Inn, I think it’s called, - the North Charleston Coliseum one.

Thanks again.

Amani

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Margo
Sent: June-01-16 5:33 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Can we try to help this woman who is helping cats??


Amani,

  I will help, but I can't seem to get back to the posts that 
tell where she is. I know I saw it, and I'm pretty sure it was towards the 
coast. I'm in NW SC, too far to actually be of hands-on help. I do have someone 
near Columbia, but that may not be near enough.

  I'll check the GoFundMe, that may answer some questions...

Margo

-Original Message-
From: Amani Oakley
Sent: Jun 1, 2016 4:06 PM
To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>"
Subject: [Felvtalk] Can we try to help this woman who is helping cats??

Hi Everyone

A while back, a member of this group posted about a woman in South Carolina who 
needed help in placing some cats, one of whom was FeLV positive and 9 years 
old, so obviously would be immediately put down if taken to a shelter. The 
woman was about to lose her own housing and was trying to place these cats so 
they would not be homeless too.

The woman, Sharon Follin Jowers, was desperately trying to find homes for her 
five older cats and her son’s dog, before being forced to live on the street. 
When I heard about her, my heart went out to her because Sharon clearly was 
motivated first and foremost about concern for where her animals were going to 
end up if she became homeless.

I spent quite a while looking into the situation because, frankly, I wanted to 
know if there was a better answer than placing her adult animals with strangers 
and her losing her house. I also wanted to be sure that it wasn’t a scam.

I have now spoken to Sharon on a few occasions, and emailed back and forth with 
her. I think that not only is her situation legit, but it is far worse than I 
initially imagined. She has severe COPD and was approved for a double-lung 
transplant, but that is now in jeopardy because she doesn’t have stable housing 
nor a car to get her to the city where the transplant was to take place, along 
with the numerous treatments before and after the transplant. She lives on 
oxygen and can barely move around and is so emaciated it is disturbing. Not 
surprisingly, this is very much hampering her ability to find new housing.

The issue with the housing, as best as I can understand it as a Canadian and 
not being familiar with South Carolina, etc., is that she had accommodations 
which were paid for by the state, but that housing had to meet certain 
standards. Her landlord refused to fix the plumbing and there was mold found 
from previous flooding, and so the state refused to pay him and he evicted her. 
She paid her part of her January rent but the state did not pay its share 
because of the condition of disrepair. She was evicted shortly after that. She 
has a Form 8 (I think) certificate which means that if she can find appropriate 
housing, the state will cover the rent, but she has not been able to find any 
accommodations which satisfy the state and medical requirements – for example, 
the place has to have no stairs. This isn’t her intractability – it is what has 
been written down as a condition of the state funding the rent. Right now, she 
is in a one-bedroom motel room. The rent is daily (no discounts for longer 
stays) and it is $41.99 per night plus tax. This doesn’t seem like much until 
you realize that 10 days is over $400.

The money she had saved to buy an old used car to get to her treatments and to 
drive to the other city where the transplant was to be conducted, has instead 
gone to this rent. She only has until June 6th to find suitable housing or her 
Form 6 expires.

Her son is trying to help, but because of her very debilitated state, he cannot 
leave her too often 

Re: [Felvtalk] Can we try to help this woman who is helping cats??

2016-06-01 Thread Amani Oakley
She is in North Charleston, South Carolina in the Red Roof Inn (the “coliseum” 
apparently).

Amani

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of swacht
Sent: June-01-16 6:46 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Can we try to help this woman who is helping cats??

can we find out for sure where this lady is – please
Sandy W

From: Amani Oakley<mailto:aoak...@oakleylegal.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 5:37 PM
To: Margo<mailto:toomanykitti...@earthlink.net> ; 
felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Can we try to help this woman who is helping cats??

Thanks Margo. Any assistance you can give would be tremendous. I think she is 
in North Charleston if that sounds right to you. She is staying at the Red Roof 
Inn, I think it’s called, - the North Charleston Coliseum one.

Thanks again.

Amani

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Margo
Sent: June-01-16 5:33 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Can we try to help this woman who is helping cats??


Amani,

  I will help, but I can't seem to get back to the posts that 
tell where she is. I know I saw it, and I'm pretty sure it was towards the 
coast. I'm in NW SC, too far to actually be of hands-on help. I do have someone 
near Columbia, but that may not be near enough.

  I'll check the GoFundMe, that may answer some questions...

Margo

-Original Message-
From: Amani Oakley
Sent: Jun 1, 2016 4:06 PM
To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>"
Subject: [Felvtalk] Can we try to help this woman who is helping cats??

Hi Everyone

A while back, a member of this group posted about a woman in South Carolina who 
needed help in placing some cats, one of whom was FeLV positive and 9 years 
old, so obviously would be immediately put down if taken to a shelter. The 
woman was about to lose her own housing and was trying to place these cats so 
they would not be homeless too.

The woman, Sharon Follin Jowers, was desperately trying to find homes for her 
five older cats and her son’s dog, before being forced to live on the street. 
When I heard about her, my heart went out to her because Sharon clearly was 
motivated first and foremost about concern for where her animals were going to 
end up if she became homeless.

I spent quite a while looking into the situation because, frankly, I wanted to 
know if there was a better answer than placing her adult animals with strangers 
and her losing her house. I also wanted to be sure that it wasn’t a scam.

I have now spoken to Sharon on a few occasions, and emailed back and forth with 
her. I think that not only is her situation legit, but it is far worse than I 
initially imagined. She has severe COPD and was approved for a double-lung 
transplant, but that is now in jeopardy because she doesn’t have stable housing 
nor a car to get her to the city where the transplant was to take place, along 
with the numerous treatments before and after the transplant. She lives on 
oxygen and can barely move around and is so emaciated it is disturbing. Not 
surprisingly, this is very much hampering her ability to find new housing.

The issue with the housing, as best as I can understand it as a Canadian and 
not being familiar with South Carolina, etc., is that she had accommodations 
which were paid for by the state, but that housing had to meet certain 
standards. Her landlord refused to fix the plumbing and there was mold found 
from previous flooding, and so the state refused to pay him and he evicted her. 
She paid her part of her January rent but the state did not pay its share 
because of the condition of disrepair. She was evicted shortly after that. She 
has a Form 8 (I think) certificate which means that if she can find appropriate 
housing, the state will cover the rent, but she has not been able to find any 
accommodations which satisfy the state and medical requirements – for example, 
the place has to have no stairs. This isn’t her intractability – it is what has 
been written down as a condition of the state funding the rent. Right now, she 
is in a one-bedroom motel room. The rent is daily (no discounts for longer 
stays) and it is $41.99 per night plus tax. This doesn’t seem like much until 
you realize that 10 days is over $400.

The money she had saved to buy an old used car to get to her treatments and to 
drive to the other city where the transplant was to be conducted, has instead 
gone to this rent. She only has until June 6th to find suitable housing or her 
Form 6 expires.

Her son is trying to help, but because of her very debilitated state, he cannot 
leave her too often as she can’t do much for herself. He has part time job 
which is paying for the cat and dog food and a few groceries.

I have paid for some rent

Re: [Felvtalk] Can we try to help this woman who is helping cats??

2016-06-01 Thread Amani Oakley
Thanks to Margo, who got the ball rolling right away, we are already up to $560 
in donations to Sharon’s GoFundMe Campaign, in just a few hours. What a 
generous bunch we are! It would be great if we could get to $600 today. Anyone 
else able to chip in $40 or $50?

Amani

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amani 
Oakley
Sent: June-01-16 5:38 PM
To: Margo; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Can we try to help this woman who is helping cats??

Thanks Margo. Any assistance you can give would be tremendous. I think she is 
in North Charleston if that sounds right to you. She is staying at the Red Roof 
Inn, I think it’s called, - the North Charleston Coliseum one.

Thanks again.

Amani

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Margo
Sent: June-01-16 5:33 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Can we try to help this woman who is helping cats??


Amani,

  I will help, but I can't seem to get back to the posts that 
tell where she is. I know I saw it, and I'm pretty sure it was towards the 
coast. I'm in NW SC, too far to actually be of hands-on help. I do have someone 
near Columbia, but that may not be near enough.

  I'll check the GoFundMe, that may answer some questions...

Margo

-Original Message-
From: Amani Oakley
Sent: Jun 1, 2016 4:06 PM
To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>"
Subject: [Felvtalk] Can we try to help this woman who is helping cats??

Hi Everyone

A while back, a member of this group posted about a woman in South Carolina who 
needed help in placing some cats, one of whom was FeLV positive and 9 years 
old, so obviously would be immediately put down if taken to a shelter. The 
woman was about to lose her own housing and was trying to place these cats so 
they would not be homeless too.

The woman, Sharon Follin Jowers, was desperately trying to find homes for her 
five older cats and her son’s dog, before being forced to live on the street. 
When I heard about her, my heart went out to her because Sharon clearly was 
motivated first and foremost about concern for where her animals were going to 
end up if she became homeless.

I spent quite a while looking into the situation because, frankly, I wanted to 
know if there was a better answer than placing her adult animals with strangers 
and her losing her house. I also wanted to be sure that it wasn’t a scam.

I have now spoken to Sharon on a few occasions, and emailed back and forth with 
her. I think that not only is her situation legit, but it is far worse than I 
initially imagined. She has severe COPD and was approved for a double-lung 
transplant, but that is now in jeopardy because she doesn’t have stable housing 
nor a car to get her to the city where the transplant was to take place, along 
with the numerous treatments before and after the transplant. She lives on 
oxygen and can barely move around and is so emaciated it is disturbing. Not 
surprisingly, this is very much hampering her ability to find new housing.

The issue with the housing, as best as I can understand it as a Canadian and 
not being familiar with South Carolina, etc., is that she had accommodations 
which were paid for by the state, but that housing had to meet certain 
standards. Her landlord refused to fix the plumbing and there was mold found 
from previous flooding, and so the state refused to pay him and he evicted her. 
She paid her part of her January rent but the state did not pay its share 
because of the condition of disrepair. She was evicted shortly after that. She 
has a Form 8 (I think) certificate which means that if she can find appropriate 
housing, the state will cover the rent, but she has not been able to find any 
accommodations which satisfy the state and medical requirements – for example, 
the place has to have no stairs. This isn’t her intractability – it is what has 
been written down as a condition of the state funding the rent. Right now, she 
is in a one-bedroom motel room. The rent is daily (no discounts for longer 
stays) and it is $41.99 per night plus tax. This doesn’t seem like much until 
you realize that 10 days is over $400.

The money she had saved to buy an old used car to get to her treatments and to 
drive to the other city where the transplant was to be conducted, has instead 
gone to this rent. She only has until June 6th to find suitable housing or her 
Form 6 expires.

Her son is trying to help, but because of her very debilitated state, he cannot 
leave her too often as she can’t do much for herself. He has part time job 
which is paying for the cat and dog food and a few groceries.

I have paid for some rent for her, but I only paid until tomorrow, and let me 
tell you, the Canadian dollar means that I have to pay 30% more.

I have decided to continue to assist her and I have found

Re: [Felvtalk] Can we try to help this woman who is helping cats??

2016-06-01 Thread swacht
can we find out for sure where this lady is – please
Sandy W

From: Amani Oakley 
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 5:37 PM
To: Margo ; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Can we try to help this woman who is helping cats??

Thanks Margo. Any assistance you can give would be tremendous. I think she is 
in North Charleston if that sounds right to you. She is staying at the Red Roof 
Inn, I think it’s called, - the North Charleston Coliseum one.

 

Thanks again.

 

Amani

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Margo
Sent: June-01-16 5:33 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Can we try to help this woman who is helping cats??

 


Amani, 

  I will help, but I can't seem to get back to the posts that 
tell where she is. I know I saw it, and I'm pretty sure it was towards the 
coast. I'm in NW SC, too far to actually be of hands-on help. I do have someone 
near Columbia, but that may not be near enough.

  I'll check the GoFundMe, that may answer some questions...

Margo
 

-Original Message- 
From: Amani Oakley 
Sent: Jun 1, 2016 4:06 PM 
To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" 
Subject: [Felvtalk] Can we try to help this woman who is helping cats?? 




Hi Everyone

 

A while back, a member of this group posted about a woman in South Carolina who 
needed help in placing some cats, one of whom was FeLV positive and 9 years 
old, so obviously would be immediately put down if taken to a shelter. The 
woman was about to lose her own housing and was trying to place these cats so 
they would not be homeless too. 

 

 

The woman, Sharon Follin Jowers, was desperately trying to find homes for her 
five older cats and her son’s dog, before being forced to live on the street. 
When I heard about her, my heart went out to her because Sharon clearly was 
motivated first and foremost about concern for where her animals were going to 
end up if she became homeless.

 

I spent quite a while looking into the situation because, frankly, I wanted to 
know if there was a better answer than placing her adult animals with strangers 
and her losing her house. I also wanted to be sure that it wasn’t a scam.

 

I have now spoken to Sharon on a few occasions, and emailed back and forth with 
her. I think that not only is her situation legit, but it is far worse than I 
initially imagined. She has severe COPD and was approved for a double-lung 
transplant, but that is now in jeopardy because she doesn’t have stable housing 
nor a car to get her to the city where the transplant was to take place, along 
with the numerous treatments before and after the transplant. She lives on 
oxygen and can barely move around and is so emaciated it is disturbing. Not 
surprisingly, this is very much hampering her ability to find new housing.

 

The issue with the housing, as best as I can understand it as a Canadian and 
not being familiar with South Carolina, etc., is that she had accommodations 
which were paid for by the state, but that housing had to meet certain 
standards. Her landlord refused to fix the plumbing and there was mold found 
from previous flooding, and so the state refused to pay him and he evicted her. 
She paid her part of her January rent but the state did not pay its share 
because of the condition of disrepair. She was evicted shortly after that. She 
has a Form 8 (I think) certificate which means that if she can find appropriate 
housing, the state will cover the rent, but she has not been able to find any 
accommodations which satisfy the state and medical requirements – for example, 
the place has to have no stairs. This isn’t her intractability – it is what has 
been written down as a condition of the state funding the rent. Right now, she 
is in a one-bedroom motel room. The rent is daily (no discounts for longer 
stays) and it is $41.99 per night plus tax. This doesn’t seem like much until 
you realize that 10 days is over $400.

 

The money she had saved to buy an old used car to get to her treatments and to 
drive to the other city where the transplant was to be conducted, has instead 
gone to this rent. She only has until June 6th to find suitable housing or her 
Form 6 expires.

 

Her son is trying to help, but because of her very debilitated state, he cannot 
leave her too often as she can’t do much for herself. He has part time job 
which is paying for the cat and dog food and a few groceries.

 

I have paid for some rent for her, but I only paid until tomorrow, and let me 
tell you, the Canadian dollar means that I have to pay 30% more.

 

I have decided to continue to assist her and I have found a number of excellent 
options in used mobile homes. I will be hitting up my lawyer friends for 
donati

Re: [Felvtalk] Can we try to help this woman who is helping cats??

2016-06-01 Thread Amani Oakley
Thanks Margo. Any assistance you can give would be tremendous. I think she is 
in North Charleston if that sounds right to you. She is staying at the Red Roof 
Inn, I think it’s called, - the North Charleston Coliseum one.

Thanks again.

Amani

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Margo
Sent: June-01-16 5:33 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Can we try to help this woman who is helping cats??


Amani,

  I will help, but I can't seem to get back to the posts that 
tell where she is. I know I saw it, and I'm pretty sure it was towards the 
coast. I'm in NW SC, too far to actually be of hands-on help. I do have someone 
near Columbia, but that may not be near enough.

  I'll check the GoFundMe, that may answer some questions...

Margo

-Original Message-
From: Amani Oakley
Sent: Jun 1, 2016 4:06 PM
To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>"
Subject: [Felvtalk] Can we try to help this woman who is helping cats??


Hi Everyone

A while back, a member of this group posted about a woman in South Carolina who 
needed help in placing some cats, one of whom was FeLV positive and 9 years 
old, so obviously would be immediately put down if taken to a shelter. The 
woman was about to lose her own housing and was trying to place these cats so 
they would not be homeless too.

The woman, Sharon Follin Jowers, was desperately trying to find homes for her 
five older cats and her son’s dog, before being forced to live on the street. 
When I heard about her, my heart went out to her because Sharon clearly was 
motivated first and foremost about concern for where her animals were going to 
end up if she became homeless.

I spent quite a while looking into the situation because, frankly, I wanted to 
know if there was a better answer than placing her adult animals with strangers 
and her losing her house. I also wanted to be sure that it wasn’t a scam.

I have now spoken to Sharon on a few occasions, and emailed back and forth with 
her. I think that not only is her situation legit, but it is far worse than I 
initially imagined. She has severe COPD and was approved for a double-lung 
transplant, but that is now in jeopardy because she doesn’t have stable housing 
nor a car to get her to the city where the transplant was to take place, along 
with the numerous treatments before and after the transplant. She lives on 
oxygen and can barely move around and is so emaciated it is disturbing. Not 
surprisingly, this is very much hampering her ability to find new housing.

The issue with the housing, as best as I can understand it as a Canadian and 
not being familiar with South Carolina, etc., is that she had accommodations 
which were paid for by the state, but that housing had to meet certain 
standards. Her landlord refused to fix the plumbing and there was mold found 
from previous flooding, and so the state refused to pay him and he evicted her. 
She paid her part of her January rent but the state did not pay its share 
because of the condition of disrepair. She was evicted shortly after that. She 
has a Form 8 (I think) certificate which means that if she can find appropriate 
housing, the state will cover the rent, but she has not been able to find any 
accommodations which satisfy the state and medical requirements – for example, 
the place has to have no stairs. This isn’t her intractability – it is what has 
been written down as a condition of the state funding the rent. Right now, she 
is in a one-bedroom motel room. The rent is daily (no discounts for longer 
stays) and it is $41.99 per night plus tax. This doesn’t seem like much until 
you realize that 10 days is over $400.

The money she had saved to buy an old used car to get to her treatments and to 
drive to the other city where the transplant was to be conducted, has instead 
gone to this rent. She only has until June 6th to find suitable housing or her 
Form 6 expires.

Her son is trying to help, but because of her very debilitated state, he cannot 
leave her too often as she can’t do much for herself. He has part time job 
which is paying for the cat and dog food and a few groceries.

I have paid for some rent for her, but I only paid until tomorrow, and let me 
tell you, the Canadian dollar means that I have to pay 30% more.

I have decided to continue to assist her and I have found a number of excellent 
options in used mobile homes. I will be hitting up my lawyer friends for 
donations, and I will underwrite the bulk of the purchase or rent of a motor 
home until I can get some funds from my friends, but obviously, time is of the 
essence and (a) I am run off my feet at work and (b) I could really use someone 
down there to do the legwork. It is extremely cumbersome, and fraught with 
problems, to try and do this long distance but I will do it one way or the 
other. Problem is that it will probably delay things m

Re: [Felvtalk] Can we try to help this woman who is helping cats??

2016-06-01 Thread Margo
Amani,   I will help, but I can't seem to get back to the posts that tell where she is. I know I saw it, and I'm pretty sure it was towards the coast. I'm in NW SC, too far to actually be of hands-on help. I do have someone near Columbia, but that may not be near enough.  I'll check the GoFundMe, that may answer some questions...Margo -Original Message-
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Hi Everyone
 
A while back, a member of this group posted about a woman in South Carolina who needed help in placing some cats, one of whom was FeLV positive and 9 years old, so obviously would be immediately put down if taken to a shelter. The woman was about to lose
her own housing and was trying to place these cats so they would not be homeless too. 

 
The woman, Sharon Follin Jowers, was desperately trying to find homes for her five older cats and her son’s dog, before being forced to live on the street. When I heard about her, my heart went out to her because Sharon clearly was motivated first and
foremost about concern for where her animals were going to end up if she became homeless.
 
I spent quite a while looking into the situation because, frankly, I wanted to know if there was a better answer than placing her adult animals with strangers and her losing her house. I also wanted to be sure that it wasn’t a scam.
 
I have now spoken to Sharon on a few occasions, and emailed back and forth with her. I think that not only is her situation legit, but it is far worse than I initially imagined. She has severe COPD and was approved for a double-lung transplant, but that
is now in jeopardy because she doesn’t have stable housing nor a car to get her to the city where the transplant was to take place, along with the numerous treatments before and after the transplant. She lives on oxygen and can barely move around and is so
emaciated it is disturbing. Not surprisingly, this is very much hampering her ability to find new housing.
 
The issue with the housing, as best as I can understand it as a Canadian and not being familiar with South Carolina, etc., is that she had accommodations which were paid for by the state, but that housing had to meet certain standards. Her landlord refused
to fix the plumbing and there was mold found from previous flooding, and so the state refused to pay him and he evicted her. She paid her part of her January rent but the state did not pay its share because of the condition of disrepair. She was evicted shortly
after that. She has a Form 8 (I think) certificate which means that if she can find appropriate housing, the state will cover the rent, but she has not been able to find any accommodations which satisfy the state and medical requirements – for example, the
place has to have no stairs. This isn’t her intractability – it is what has been written down as a condition of the state funding the rent. Right now, she is in a one-bedroom motel room. The rent is daily (no discounts for longer stays) and it is $41.99 per
night plus tax. This doesn’t seem like much until you realize that 10 days is over $400.
 
The money she had saved to buy an old used car to get to her treatments and to drive to the other city where the transplant was to be conducted, has instead gone to this rent. She only has until June 6th
to find suitable housing or her Form 6 expires.
 
Her son is trying to help, but because of her very debilitated state, he cannot leave her too often as she can’t do much for herself. He has part time job which is paying for the cat and dog food and a few groceries.
 
I have paid for some rent for her, but I only paid until tomorrow, and let me tell you, the Canadian dollar means that I have to pay 30% more.
 
I have decided to continue to assist her and I have found a number of excellent options in used mobile homes. I will be hitting up my lawyer friends for donations, and I will underwrite the bulk of the purchase or rent of a motor home until I can get some
funds from my friends, but obviously, time is of the essence and (a) I am run off my feet at work and (b) I could really use someone down there to do the legwork. It is extremely cumbersome, and fraught with problems, to try and do this long distance but I
will do it one way or the other. Problem is that it will probably delay things more, and I would sure prefer that the money go to the purchase or rent of a more permanent housing arrangement then daily rent at the motel.
 
I would be so very appreciative if each of yo

[Felvtalk] Can we try to help this woman who is helping cats??

2016-06-01 Thread Amani Oakley
Hi Everyone

A while back, a member of this group posted about a woman in South Carolina who 
needed help in placing some cats, one of whom was FeLV positive and 9 years 
old, so obviously would be immediately put down if taken to a shelter. The 
woman was about to lose her own housing and was trying to place these cats so 
they would not be homeless too.

The woman, Sharon Follin Jowers, was desperately trying to find homes for her 
five older cats and her son's dog, before being forced to live on the street. 
When I heard about her, my heart went out to her because Sharon clearly was 
motivated first and foremost about concern for where her animals were going to 
end up if she became homeless.

I spent quite a while looking into the situation because, frankly, I wanted to 
know if there was a better answer than placing her adult animals with strangers 
and her losing her house. I also wanted to be sure that it wasn't a scam.

I have now spoken to Sharon on a few occasions, and emailed back and forth with 
her. I think that not only is her situation legit, but it is far worse than I 
initially imagined. She has severe COPD and was approved for a double-lung 
transplant, but that is now in jeopardy because she doesn't have stable housing 
nor a car to get her to the city where the transplant was to take place, along 
with the numerous treatments before and after the transplant. She lives on 
oxygen and can barely move around and is so emaciated it is disturbing. Not 
surprisingly, this is very much hampering her ability to find new housing.

The issue with the housing, as best as I can understand it as a Canadian and 
not being familiar with South Carolina, etc., is that she had accommodations 
which were paid for by the state, but that housing had to meet certain 
standards. Her landlord refused to fix the plumbing and there was mold found 
from previous flooding, and so the state refused to pay him and he evicted her. 
She paid her part of her January rent but the state did not pay its share 
because of the condition of disrepair. She was evicted shortly after that. She 
has a Form 8 (I think) certificate which means that if she can find appropriate 
housing, the state will cover the rent, but she has not been able to find any 
accommodations which satisfy the state and medical requirements - for example, 
the place has to have no stairs. This isn't her intractability - it is what has 
been written down as a condition of the state funding the rent. Right now, she 
is in a one-bedroom motel room. The rent is daily (no discounts for longer 
stays) and it is $41.99 per night plus tax. This doesn't seem like much until 
you realize that 10 days is over $400.

The money she had saved to buy an old used car to get to her treatments and to 
drive to the other city where the transplant was to be conducted, has instead 
gone to this rent. She only has until June 6th to find suitable housing or her 
Form 6 expires.

Her son is trying to help, but because of her very debilitated state, he cannot 
leave her too often as she can't do much for herself. He has part time job 
which is paying for the cat and dog food and a few groceries.

I have paid for some rent for her, but I only paid until tomorrow, and let me 
tell you, the Canadian dollar means that I have to pay 30% more.

I have decided to continue to assist her and I have found a number of excellent 
options in used mobile homes. I will be hitting up my lawyer friends for 
donations, and I will underwrite the bulk of the purchase or rent of a motor 
home until I can get some funds from my friends, but obviously, time is of the 
essence and (a) I am run off my feet at work and (b) I could really use someone 
down there to do the legwork. It is extremely cumbersome, and fraught with 
problems, to try and do this long distance but I will do it one way or the 
other. Problem is that it will probably delay things more, and I would sure 
prefer that the money go to the purchase or rent of a more permanent housing 
arrangement then daily rent at the motel.

I would be so very appreciative if each of you would consider donating to her 
GoFundMe campaign. Every little bit would help. She is an animal lover like all 
of us, and the fact that she is putting the welfare of her animals before her 
own needs and health, really deserves some support from us. I know that not 
everyone is in a position to donate some money, and believe me - I know what it 
is like to be strapped beyond belief - but if at all possible, I would consider 
it a personal favour if each of you would see if you are able to donate 
something to her. Even $50 will cover a night in the motel room.

https://www.gofundme.com/7rnkx4ry

Thanks for considering my request. I will keep this group posted on my efforts 
to help her and if anyone has contacts in South Carolina who can help me out, 
that would be amazing.

Amani


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Re: [Felvtalk] help /advice - testing age of kittens

2016-01-26 Thread dlgegg
ANNA, vets here also give up on positive cats.  I have one that is now 8 years 
old, with no signs of illness.  I think it depends on the cat, the caregiver, 
the kind of food thy get that determines the future.  I vaccinate my other cats 
and do not vaccinate Annie who is positive.  I do not separate them.  When ever 
a new one shows u, they go to the vet right away for a checkup and shots.  I 
keep them separate for a few days to make sure they do not have any illness and 
then they have the run of the house.

 Anna Summers <a...@amproductionslocations.com> wrote: 
> Thank you Lorrie,  “ Snuggles “ is very healthy  and doesnt seem to have any 
> sort off illness , just eats alot but I have seen how the virus is so silent 
> and then just takes over them.

I am nervous about testing too soon and that he might test positive due to the 
antibodies of the virus from the mother … do they leave their system eventually 
 ?

Will keep you posted, you are all such a wonderful group , I follow all the 
post/emails .
Anna


> On 25 Jan 2016, at 15:59, Lorrie <felineres...@frontier.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Anna,  I rescue and have many cats. Testing them at 3 or 4 months
> old is usually a good time to see if they are positive or negative. 
> I have lost many positive kittens who were born with the virus which
> they contracted from their mother. However some can throw off the
> virus. If your kitten who is approximately 4 months old had a
> positive mother he could still be positive, but he may have an strong
> immune system and be fine. With younger kittens I always test twice
> once at about 8 weeks and again at around 4 months to be sure of the
> status.  Please let us know how this kitten is?  Hopefully he will
> test negative.
> 
> Lorrie 
> 
> On 01-25, Anna Summers wrote:
> 
>> Hi , I live in spain in a very rural are  & last year I lost 2 cats
>> who were felv + , they were not in contacted with my house cats but
>> one of them ( 9yrs old ) is latent positive DNA with a low reading
>> of the virus , I did a quantative pcr , he was negative in the
>> elisa test and I was told that he is not contagious . my other 2
>> cats are vacinated against fel. my question ???..
> 
>> As I see yourselves are up to date with all the latest things  -
>> someone left a kitten on my wall just before christmas - he is now
>> been in ??? quarantine??? for 5 weeks , he is about 4 months old , I
>> need to test him but when is the right time to test kittens as I
>> have read many article re: the anitbodies of the mother so a kitten
>> can test false positive. I am keen to know , as he is on his own
>> and hopefully he will be negative so I then can vaccinate him as I
>> am also told that, are they any special test to do this , I dont
>> want to do the basic snap test and I am happy to do the elisa and a
>> pcr test. Hope you can help me , here in the area a live in which
>> is very rural ,lots of ferral cat the vets just give up on felv + ,
>> so I dont wont to ask my vet until I am up to date with all the
>> information. thank you anna
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2016-01-26 Thread dlgegg
I also had a snuggles who lived to 19

 Anna Summers <a...@amproductionslocations.com> wrote: 
> Thank you Lorrie,  “ Snuggles “ is very healthy  and doesnt seem to have any 
> sort off illness , just eats alot but I have seen how the virus is so silent 
> and then just takes over them.

I am nervous about testing too soon and that he might test positive due to the 
antibodies of the virus from the mother … do they leave their system eventually 
 ?

Will keep you posted, you are all such a wonderful group , I follow all the 
post/emails .
Anna


> On 25 Jan 2016, at 15:59, Lorrie <felineres...@frontier.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Anna,  I rescue and have many cats. Testing them at 3 or 4 months
> old is usually a good time to see if they are positive or negative. 
> I have lost many positive kittens who were born with the virus which
> they contracted from their mother. However some can throw off the
> virus. If your kitten who is approximately 4 months old had a
> positive mother he could still be positive, but he may have an strong
> immune system and be fine. With younger kittens I always test twice
> once at about 8 weeks and again at around 4 months to be sure of the
> status.  Please let us know how this kitten is?  Hopefully he will
> test negative.
> 
> Lorrie 
> 
> On 01-25, Anna Summers wrote:
> 
>> Hi , I live in spain in a very rural are  & last year I lost 2 cats
>> who were felv + , they were not in contacted with my house cats but
>> one of them ( 9yrs old ) is latent positive DNA with a low reading
>> of the virus , I did a quantative pcr , he was negative in the
>> elisa test and I was told that he is not contagious . my other 2
>> cats are vacinated against fel. my question ???..
> 
>> As I see yourselves are up to date with all the latest things  -
>> someone left a kitten on my wall just before christmas - he is now
>> been in ??? quarantine??? for 5 weeks , he is about 4 months old , I
>> need to test him but when is the right time to test kittens as I
>> have read many article re: the anitbodies of the mother so a kitten
>> can test false positive. I am keen to know , as he is on his own
>> and hopefully he will be negative so I then can vaccinate him as I
>> am also told that, are they any special test to do this , I dont
>> want to do the basic snap test and I am happy to do the elisa and a
>> pcr test. Hope you can help me , here in the area a live in which
>> is very rural ,lots of ferral cat the vets just give up on felv + ,
>> so I dont wont to ask my vet until I am up to date with all the
>> information. thank you anna
>> 
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Re: [Felvtalk] help /advice - testing age of kittens

2016-01-25 Thread Lorrie
Hi Anna,  I rescue and have many cats. Testing them at 3 or 4 months
old is usually a good time to see if they are positive or negative. 
I have lost many positive kittens who were born with the virus which
they contracted from their mother. However some can throw off the
virus. If your kitten who is approximately 4 months old had a
positive mother he could still be positive, but he may have an strong
immune system and be fine. With younger kittens I always test twice
once at about 8 weeks and again at around 4 months to be sure of the
status.  Please let us know how this kitten is?  Hopefully he will
test negative.

Lorrie 

On 01-25, Anna Summers wrote:

> Hi , I live in spain in a very rural are  & last year I lost 2 cats
> who were felv + , they were not in contacted with my house cats but
> one of them ( 9yrs old ) is latent positive DNA with a low reading
> of the virus , I did a quantative pcr , he was negative in the
> elisa test and I was told that he is not contagious . my other 2
> cats are vacinated against fel. my question ???..

> As I see yourselves are up to date with all the latest things  -
> someone left a kitten on my wall just before christmas - he is now
> been in ??? quarantine??? for 5 weeks , he is about 4 months old , I
> need to test him but when is the right time to test kittens as I
> have read many article re: the anitbodies of the mother so a kitten
> can test false positive. I am keen to know , as he is on his own
> and hopefully he will be negative so I then can vaccinate him as I
> am also told that, are they any special test to do this , I dont
> want to do the basic snap test and I am happy to do the elisa and a
> pcr test. Hope you can help me , here in the area a live in which
> is very rural ,lots of ferral cat the vets just give up on felv + ,
> so I dont wont to ask my vet until I am up to date with all the
> information. thank you anna
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2016-01-25 Thread Anna Summers
Thank you Lorrie,  “ Snuggles “ is very healthy  and doesnt seem to have any 
sort off illness , just eats alot but I have seen how the virus is so silent 
and then just takes over them.

I am nervous about testing too soon and that he might test positive due to the 
antibodies of the virus from the mother … do they leave their system eventually 
 ?

Will keep you posted, you are all such a wonderful group , I follow all the 
post/emails .
Anna


> On 25 Jan 2016, at 15:59, Lorrie <felineres...@frontier.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Anna,  I rescue and have many cats. Testing them at 3 or 4 months
> old is usually a good time to see if they are positive or negative. 
> I have lost many positive kittens who were born with the virus which
> they contracted from their mother. However some can throw off the
> virus. If your kitten who is approximately 4 months old had a
> positive mother he could still be positive, but he may have an strong
> immune system and be fine. With younger kittens I always test twice
> once at about 8 weeks and again at around 4 months to be sure of the
> status.  Please let us know how this kitten is?  Hopefully he will
> test negative.
> 
> Lorrie 
> 
> On 01-25, Anna Summers wrote:
> 
>> Hi , I live in spain in a very rural are  & last year I lost 2 cats
>> who were felv + , they were not in contacted with my house cats but
>> one of them ( 9yrs old ) is latent positive DNA with a low reading
>> of the virus , I did a quantative pcr , he was negative in the
>> elisa test and I was told that he is not contagious . my other 2
>> cats are vacinated against fel. my question ???..
> 
>> As I see yourselves are up to date with all the latest things  -
>> someone left a kitten on my wall just before christmas - he is now
>> been in ??? quarantine??? for 5 weeks , he is about 4 months old , I
>> need to test him but when is the right time to test kittens as I
>> have read many article re: the anitbodies of the mother so a kitten
>> can test false positive. I am keen to know , as he is on his own
>> and hopefully he will be negative so I then can vaccinate him as I
>> am also told that, are they any special test to do this , I dont
>> want to do the basic snap test and I am happy to do the elisa and a
>> pcr test. Hope you can help me , here in the area a live in which
>> is very rural ,lots of ferral cat the vets just give up on felv + ,
>> so I dont wont to ask my vet until I am up to date with all the
>> information. thank you anna
>> 
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2016-01-25 Thread Anna Summers
Hi , I live in spain in a very rural are  & last year I lost 2 cats  who were 
felv +  , they were not in contacted with my house cats  but one of  them  ( 
9yrs old )  is  latent  positive DNA  with a low reading of the virus ,  I did 
a quantative  pcr  , he was negative in the elisa test and I was told that he 
is not contagious . my other 2 cats are vacinated  against fel.
my question …..
As I see yourselves are up to date with all the latest things  - someone  left 
a kitten on my wall just before christmas - he is now been in “ quarantine” for 
5 weeks , he is about 4months old , I need to test him  but when is the right 
time to test kittens as I have read many article re: the anitbodies of the 
mother so a kitten can test false positive.
I am keen to know , as he is on his own and hopefully he will be negative  so I 
then can vaccinate him  as I am also told that, are they any special test to do 
this , I dont want to do the basic snap test and I am happy to do the elisa and 
a pcr test.
Hope you can help me , here in the area a live in which is very rural ,lots of 
ferral cat  the vets  just give up on felv + , so I dont wont to ask my vet  
until I am up to date with all the information.
thank you 
anna 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Please help! Anemic felv kitty, what can be done??

2015-03-01 Thread Sally Dwyer
Hi there,
Sounds like you are doing and have so much to help your little guy.  I was just 
curious to know if they have done a pcr to determine if there is a mycoplasma? 
I know you are treating presumptively with Doxy for this, but it would be good 
to know.
My guy, Rumi had a pcv of 8 three days after we got him from the SPCA  - he did 
have a mycoplasma and was also diagnosed with felv and fiv as well as immune 
mediated hymoltic anemia.  He is still with us 2 + years latter.  We gave him 
doxy, 10 mg of prednislone a day and a gastro protectant.  His PCV climbed very 
slowly over the course of 3 weeks. The transfusions were necessary even though 
I remember feeling like we were pouring water into a bucket with a hole in it.  
We crossed our fingers and prayed that the doxy and pred would eventually seal 
up the hole.  

We started LTCI a year latter (wish I had started sooner) when he went IFA (in 
the bone marrow) positive.  I live in Canada and the internists we were working 
with were very negative about LTCI and had me sign a statement acknowledging 
that they did not recommend using it.6 months latter  we had him tested again 
and he was IFA negative!!!

I have used Dr. Donna Spector as a consultant .  She is extremely competent - 
consults with upwards of (40 vets a day) and she recommended the LTCI.  You can 
check out her website - she will look at all the medical records, do a phone 
consult with you and also talk to/make recommendations to your vet.  I find her 
to be a wonderful combination of very sharp and compassionate as well as 
affordable.  She has often picked up on things that other vets have missed and 
I continue to run lab results by her

Terry Beardsly, director and discoverer of LTCI is also very approachable.  He 
has lots of documented cases of cats responding very quickly in terms of PCV 
numbers ( in a couple of days).  Perhaps you can give him a call at Tcyte (800 
483-2104 ext 88) and get his recommendations.  His wife Gale does the ordering 
end of things and they have shipped to my vet same day.   I kind of figure at 
this point you don't have a lot to lose.      

Hope this is helpful  and I will keep you in my thoughts,
Sally


  
 

 On Friday, February 27, 2015 3:01 PM, N. E. Juskowich nej...@gmail.com 
wrote:
   

 Time is of the essence for us and I need to know if there's something else 
that can be done for my sweet little just-turned-one-year-old boy.  He had a 
PCV of 12% and received a blood transfusion, his PCV went up a little, then 
back down, then up to 17% over the course of 24 hours.  He was put on 7.5 mg. 
prednisone, 25 mg. mycophenolate, 18.75 mg. plavix (to prevent clots from the 
pred/mycophenolate combo), 25 mg. doxycycline (in case of mycoplasma 
infection), and 5 mg. famotidine to prevent GI issues from the pred.  
His anemia is currently non-regenerative with two most likely potential causes: 
he was agglutination positive, a sign of immune mediated red blood cell 
destruction; he may have leukemia in the marrow.  We did not do a bone marrow 
aspirate because cancer would be too advanced at this stage, the severe anemia 
indicating this to be the case.  The doctor said it could take a few days of 
immunosuppressant therapy for the bone marrow to respond.  
Two days after the PCV of 17% we had a recheck and it is now down to 14%.  He 
is going to receive another transfusion.  
I need to know as quickly as possible: Is there anything else that can be done 
at this stage?  I was looking into treatment with TCyte (LTCI), but my vet said 
it would be a waste of time and money.  I'd read on a forum that a severely 
anemic felv kitty responded very well to the drug and I would've been willing 
to give it a shot.  My vet is of the opinion that I should not have bothered 
with this second transfusion (he had to go to emergency hospital for it) and 
the TCyte is hogwash.  I'm sitting here feeling hopeless and wondering if 
this really is the end and what do I do now if he doesn't respond to the 
transfusion.  
Any advice would be greatly appreciated.  No sugar coating necessary, but 
please be gentle.  If nothing can be done, what can I do for him to keep him 
happy and comfortable?  Will he need euthanized or will he pass peacefully?
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Re: [Felvtalk] Please help! Anemic felv kitty, what can be done??

2015-03-01 Thread N. E. Juskowich
I'd just like everyone to know how much your responses have meant to me and
my sick little boy. Thank you so much for taking the time to share your
experiences and knowledge.

The second transfusion barely made a dent in his HCT and now I come to
learn that his platelet count is abysmally low. No one is feeling very
positive about his chances for recovery, so we're mostly focusing on
palliative care and holistic treatment at this time. He gave me a very
eloquent Look and lengthy plaintive meow right after he got home from the
hospital that clearly said, Mom, please don't put me through that again.
 I want his final days to be about love and comfort, not stress and
needles, so we aren't going to try a third transfusion.

He is starting to feel the illness now, spends most of the day sleeping,
still has a good appetite and takes interest in the view from his perches.
He's spending more time cuddling up with me; I don't know if it's because
he knows now that he's unwell or he's trying to comfort mom. I try to hold
it together and send peaceful vibes to him, but sometimes my emotions get
the better of me.

Condolences to everyone who's lost a kitty (or kitties) to this horrible
disease.


On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 3:00 PM, N. E. Juskowich nej...@gmail.com wrote:

 Time is of the essence for us and I need to know if there's something else
 that can be done for my sweet little just-turned-one-year-old boy.  He had
 a PCV of 12% and received a blood transfusion, his PCV went up a little,
 then back down, then up to 17% over the course of 24 hours.  He was put on
 7.5 mg. prednisone, 25 mg. mycophenolate, 18.75 mg. plavix (to prevent
 clots from the pred/mycophenolate combo), 25 mg. doxycycline (in case of
 mycoplasma infection), and 5 mg. famotidine to prevent GI issues from the
 pred.

 His anemia is currently non-regenerative with two most likely potential
 causes: he was agglutination positive, a sign of immune mediated red blood
 cell destruction; he may have leukemia in the marrow.  We did not do a bone
 marrow aspirate because cancer would be too advanced at this stage, the
 severe anemia indicating this to be the case.  The doctor said it could
 take a few days of immunosuppressant therapy for the bone marrow to
 respond.

 Two days after the PCV of 17% we had a recheck and it is now down to 14%.
 He is going to receive another transfusion.

 I need to know as quickly as possible: Is there anything else that can be
 done at this stage?  I was looking into treatment with TCyte (LTCI), but my
 vet said it would be a waste of time and money.  I'd read on a forum that a
 severely anemic felv kitty responded very well to the drug and I would've
 been willing to give it a shot.  My vet is of the opinion that I should not
 have bothered with this second transfusion (he had to go to emergency
 hospital for it) and the TCyte is hogwash.  I'm sitting here feeling
 hopeless and wondering if this really is the end and what do I do now if he
 doesn't respond to the transfusion.

 Any advice would be greatly appreciated.  No sugar coating necessary, but
 please be gentle.  If nothing can be done, what can I do for him to keep
 him happy and comfortable?  Will he need euthanized or will he pass
 peacefully?

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