Re: Howlong? was : Question about eye ulcers

2007-08-24 Thread Susan Dubose
I would have to say, contacting the disease later in life would be 
"better"( I know, poor chioce of words).

Older cats have stronger immune systems, plus kittens still have to go 
through the surgery of being spayed / neuter, which is stressful on them.

I have heard that lots of fiv+ kittens turn neg.,but not as many felv+ 
kittens turn neg.

But Wendy is right, Glenda, do not get "dates"stuck in your head.

Value the time you have w/your baby.

Susan J. DuBose  >^..^<
www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com
www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org
www.shadowcats.net
  "As Cleopatra lay in state,
   Faithful Bast at her side did wait,
   Purring welcomes of soft applause,
   Ever guarding with sharpened claws."
 Trajan Tennent




- Original Message - 
From: "glenda Goodman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 9:08 PM
Subject: Re: Howlong? was : Question about eye ulcers


Wendy and Susan, my little gurus, You guys , I trust
more than any vet...so here is my question:
Which is worse for a kitty, to contact the FeLV virus
through the mother as a kitten or to be exposed later
in life?
 I think I know the answer.It is better to be
exposed later in life, right? About what might the
percentages be for a kitten throwing the virus if it
came through the queen?
 My little girl became infected through her mom...I
continue to live on a little bit of hope she could
throw it some day, but I am trying to steel myself
that I could lose her in a couple years...Right now
she is a bundle of energy and just so incredible as
cats go...She is about 6-months old...
(This is an open question, but since I had both of
these guys here, thought I'd ask...)
Thanks, Glenda

--- Susan Dubose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Great advice, Wendy, great advice.
>
> Susan J. DuBose  >^..^<
> www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com
> www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org
> www.shadowcats.net
>   "As Cleopatra lay
> in state,
>Faithful Bast at
> her side did wait,
>Purring welcomes
> of soft applause,
>Ever guarding
> with sharpened claws."
>  Trajan
> Tennent
>
>
>
>
>   - Original Message - 
>   From: wendy
>   To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>   Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 8:35 PM
>   Subject: Re: Question about eye ulcers
>
>
>   Michael,
>
>   There is such a range that I would not even say
> 2-3 years.  I would say that the younger the cat,
> the more likely (but not necessarily a lot more
> likely) they will pass in the first year or third,
> but that is only based on trends I've seen here, no
> specific research.  This does not include cats that
> throw the virus, which your cats could do.  They say
> it's more likely for the cat to throw the virus
> within 3-6 months, but we've seen them become
> negative after years, which is always a joy to see,
> though rare.  About 30-40% of cats throw the virus
> after exposure.  Adult cats are much less likely to
> get the virus, which might explain why your younger
> one may have picked the virus up when he was a
> kitten (I hope I have that right).  My Cricket was
> diagnosed when he was 2.5 years old; I am 85% sure
> he got it in utero from his mom.  He died at 4.5
> years.  He only got sick 3 weeks before he died with
> anemia, that I feel would not have happened without
> the stress of 10 extra people living in our home for
> a week during the hurricane.  He could still be here
> had he not been stressed, I don't know.  Then,
> there's the cat at Best Friends that is 22  We
> had one here live to 16 years old.  I forget whose
> kitty it was.  There is another that lived to nine.
> There is just no way to tell the life expectancy,
> but I will say this.  If you have your cat on immune
> boosters, a great diet, and no stress while they are
> asymptomatic, and are loving them well, making them
> feel good, I really, really believe that extends the
> life expectancy more than we realize.  You might do
> an archive search on the word 'years' and see posts
> that tell how old their kitty was when they died.
> I'm not sure if you can do a Boolean search, like
> years + death, but it might be possible.  I wouldn't
> get any date stuck in your head though.  Positive
> thoughts all the way!
>
>   :)
>   Wendy
>
>   "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful
> committed citizens can change the wo

Re: Howlong? was : Question about eye ulcers

2007-08-24 Thread Susan Dubose
Yes, I can be socially acceptable @ times.. :)
Baaa haa ...!

But I did mean it, your post was very well written and helpful.

Especially the part about not getting a date stuck in your head

Susan J. DuBose  >^..^<
www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com
www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org
www.shadowcats.net
  "As Cleopatra lay in state,
   Faithful Bast at her side did wait,
   Purring welcomes of soft applause,
   Ever guarding with sharpened claws."
 Trajan Tennent




  - Original Message - 
  From: wendy 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 8:57 PM
  Subject: Re: Howlong? was : Question about eye ulcers


  Thank you.  That was sweet of you to say!

  :)
  Wendy
   
  "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change 
the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has!" ~~~ Margaret Meade 
~~~



  - Original Message 
  From: Susan Dubose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 8:48:45 PM
  Subject: Howlong? was : Question about eye ulcers


  Great advice, Wendy, great advice.

  Susan J. DuBose  >^..^<
  www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com
  www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org
  www.shadowcats.net
"As Cleopatra lay in state,
 Faithful Bast at her side did wait,
 Purring welcomes of soft applause,
 Ever guarding with sharpened claws."
   Trajan Tennent




- Original Message - 
From: wendy 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 8:35 PM
Subject: Re: Question about eye ulcers


Michael,

There is such a range that I would not even say 2-3 years.  I would say 
that the younger the cat, the more likely (but not necessarily a lot more 
likely) they will pass in the first year or third, but that is only based on 
trends I've seen here, no specific research.  This does not include cats that 
throw the virus, which your cats could do.  They say it's more likely for the 
cat to throw the virus within 3-6 months, but we've seen them become negative 
after years, which is always a joy to see, though rare.  About 30-40% of cats 
throw the virus after exposure.  Adult cats are much less likely to get the 
virus, which might explain why your younger one may have picked the virus up 
when he was a kitten (I hope I have that right).  My Cricket was diagnosed when 
he was 2.5 years old; I am 85% sure he got it in utero from his mom.  He died 
at 4.5 years.  He only got sick 3 weeks before he died with anemia, that I feel 
would not have happened without the stress of 10 extra people living in our 
home for a week during the hurricane.  He could still be here had he not been 
stressed, I don't know.  Then, there's the cat at Best Friends that is 22  
We had one here live to 16 years old.  I forget whose kitty it was.  There is 
another that lived to nine.  There is just no way to tell the life expectancy, 
but I will say this.  If you have your cat on immune boosters, a great diet, 
and no stress while they are asymptomatic, and are loving them well, making 
them feel good, I really, really believe that extends the life expectancy more 
than we realize.  You might do an archive search on the word 'years' and see 
posts that tell how old their kitty was when they died.  I'm not sure if you 
can do a Boolean search, like years + death, but it might be possible.  I 
wouldn't get any date stuck in your head though.  Positive thoughts all the way!

:)
Wendy
 
"Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change 
the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has!" ~~~ Margaret Meade 
~~~



- Original Message 
From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 8:15:01 PM
Subject: Re: Question about eye ulcers


Ok, guys, since I'm feeling particularly sad tonight about my babies, let 
me ask this...

How long have you all known of a cat surviving after FeLV+ diagnosis?

I know the standard is, according to almost everyone, 2-3 years after 
diagnosis, but I'm sure some of you all have had experiences with cats living 
longer?

Just curious what everyone's experiences have been.


Michael






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Re: Howlong? was : Question about eye ulcers

2007-08-24 Thread glenda Goodman
Wendy and Susan, my little gurus, You guys , I trust
more than any vet...so here is my question:
Which is worse for a kitty, to contact the FeLV virus
through the mother as a kitten or to be exposed later
in life?
 I think I know the answer.It is better to be
exposed later in life, right? About what might the
percentages be for a kitten throwing the virus if it
came through the queen? 
 My little girl became infected through her mom...I
continue to live on a little bit of hope she could
throw it some day, but I am trying to steel myself
that I could lose her in a couple years...Right now
she is a bundle of energy and just so incredible as
cats go...She is about 6-months old...
(This is an open question, but since I had both of
these guys here, thought I'd ask...)
Thanks, Glenda

--- Susan Dubose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Great advice, Wendy, great advice.
> 
> Susan J. DuBose  >^..^<
> www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com
> www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org
> www.shadowcats.net
>   "As Cleopatra lay
> in state,
>Faithful Bast at
> her side did wait,
>Purring welcomes
> of soft applause,
>Ever guarding
> with sharpened claws."
>  Trajan
> Tennent
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   - Original Message - 
>   From: wendy 
>   To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
>   Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 8:35 PM
>   Subject: Re: Question about eye ulcers
> 
> 
>   Michael,
> 
>   There is such a range that I would not even say
> 2-3 years.  I would say that the younger the cat,
> the more likely (but not necessarily a lot more
> likely) they will pass in the first year or third,
> but that is only based on trends I've seen here, no
> specific research.  This does not include cats that
> throw the virus, which your cats could do.  They say
> it's more likely for the cat to throw the virus
> within 3-6 months, but we've seen them become
> negative after years, which is always a joy to see,
> though rare.  About 30-40% of cats throw the virus
> after exposure.  Adult cats are much less likely to
> get the virus, which might explain why your younger
> one may have picked the virus up when he was a
> kitten (I hope I have that right).  My Cricket was
> diagnosed when he was 2.5 years old; I am 85% sure
> he got it in utero from his mom.  He died at 4.5
> years.  He only got sick 3 weeks before he died with
> anemia, that I feel would not have happened without
> the stress of 10 extra people living in our home for
> a week during the hurricane.  He could still be here
> had he not been stressed, I don't know.  Then,
> there's the cat at Best Friends that is 22  We
> had one here live to 16 years old.  I forget whose
> kitty it was.  There is another that lived to nine. 
> There is just no way to tell the life expectancy,
> but I will say this.  If you have your cat on immune
> boosters, a great diet, and no stress while they are
> asymptomatic, and are loving them well, making them
> feel good, I really, really believe that extends the
> life expectancy more than we realize.  You might do
> an archive search on the word 'years' and see posts
> that tell how old their kitty was when they died. 
> I'm not sure if you can do a Boolean search, like
> years + death, but it might be possible.  I wouldn't
> get any date stuck in your head though.  Positive
> thoughts all the way!
> 
>   :)
>   Wendy
>
>   "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful
> committed citizens can change the world - indeed it
> is the only thing that ever has!" ~~~ Margaret
> Meade ~~~
> 
> 
> 
>   - Original Message 
>   From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>   To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>   Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 8:15:01 PM
>   Subject: Re: Question about eye ulcers
> 
> 
>   Ok, guys, since I'm feeling particularly sad
> tonight about my babies, let me ask this...
> 
>   How long have you all known of a cat surviving
> after FeLV+ diagnosis?
> 
>   I know the standard is, according to almost
> everyone, 2-3 years after diagnosis, but I'm sure
> some of you all have had experiences with cats
> living longer?
> 
>   Just curious what everyone's experiences have
> been.
> 
> 
>   Michael
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Howlong? was : Question about eye ulcers

2007-08-24 Thread wendy
Thank you.  That was sweet of you to say!

:)
Wendy
 
"Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the 
world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has!" ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~



- Original Message 
From: Susan Dubose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 8:48:45 PM
Subject: Howlong? was : Question about eye ulcers


Great advice, Wendy, great advice.
 
Susan J. DuBose  >^..^<
www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com
www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org
www.shadowcats.net
  "As Cleopatra lay in state,
   Faithful Bast at her side did wait,
   Purring welcomes of soft applause,
   Ever guarding with sharpened claws."
 Trajan Tennent
 
 
 
 
- Original Message - 
From: wendy 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 8:35 PM
Subject: Re: Question about eye ulcers


Michael,
 
There is such a range that I would not even say 2-3 years.  I would say that 
the younger the cat, the more likely (but not necessarily a lot more likely) 
they will pass in the first year or third, but that is only based on trends 
I've seen here, no specific research.  This does not include cats that throw 
the virus, which your cats could do.  They say it's more likely for the cat to 
throw the virus within 3-6 months, but we've seen them become negative after 
years, which is always a joy to see, though rare.  About 30-40% of cats throw 
the virus after exposure.  Adult cats are much less likely to get the virus, 
which might explain why your younger one may have picked the virus up when he 
was a kitten (I hope I have that right).  My Cricket was diagnosed when he was 
2.5 years old; I am 85% sure he got it in utero from his mom.  He died at 4.5 
years.  He only got sick 3 weeks before he died with anemia, that I feel would 
not have happened without the stress
 of 10 extra people living in our home for a week during the hurricane.  He 
could still be here had he not been stressed, I don't know.  Then, there's the 
cat at Best Friends that is 22  We had one here live to 16 years old.  I 
forget whose kitty it was.  There is another that lived to nine.  There is just 
no way to tell the life expectancy, but I will say this.  If you have your cat 
on immune boosters, a great diet, and no stress while they are asymptomatic, 
and are loving them well, making them feel good, I really, really believe that 
extends the life expectancy more than we realize.  You might do an archive 
search on the word 'years' and see posts that tell how old their kitty was when 
they died.  I'm not sure if you can do a Boolean search, like years + death, 
but it might be possible.  I wouldn't get any date stuck in your head though.  
Positive thoughts all the way!
 
:)
Wendy
 
"Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the 
world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has!" ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~



- Original Message 
From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 8:15:01 PM
Subject: Re: Question about eye ulcers


Ok, guys, since I'm feeling particularly sad tonight about my babies, let me 
ask this...
 
How long have you all known of a cat surviving after FeLV+ diagnosis?
 
I know the standard is, according to almost everyone, 2-3 years after 
diagnosis, but I'm sure some of you all have had experiences with cats living 
longer?

Just curious what everyone's experiences have been.
 
 
Michael






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Howlong? was : Question about eye ulcers

2007-08-24 Thread Susan Dubose
Great advice, Wendy, great advice.

Susan J. DuBose  >^..^<
www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com
www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org
www.shadowcats.net
  "As Cleopatra lay in state,
   Faithful Bast at her side did wait,
   Purring welcomes of soft applause,
   Ever guarding with sharpened claws."
 Trajan Tennent




  - Original Message - 
  From: wendy 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 8:35 PM
  Subject: Re: Question about eye ulcers


  Michael,

  There is such a range that I would not even say 2-3 years.  I would say that 
the younger the cat, the more likely (but not necessarily a lot more likely) 
they will pass in the first year or third, but that is only based on trends 
I've seen here, no specific research.  This does not include cats that throw 
the virus, which your cats could do.  They say it's more likely for the cat to 
throw the virus within 3-6 months, but we've seen them become negative after 
years, which is always a joy to see, though rare.  About 30-40% of cats throw 
the virus after exposure.  Adult cats are much less likely to get the virus, 
which might explain why your younger one may have picked the virus up when he 
was a kitten (I hope I have that right).  My Cricket was diagnosed when he was 
2.5 years old; I am 85% sure he got it in utero from his mom.  He died at 4.5 
years.  He only got sick 3 weeks before he died with anemia, that I feel would 
not have happened without the stress of 10 extra people living in our home for 
a week during the hurricane.  He could still be here had he not been stressed, 
I don't know.  Then, there's the cat at Best Friends that is 22  We had one 
here live to 16 years old.  I forget whose kitty it was.  There is another that 
lived to nine.  There is just no way to tell the life expectancy, but I will 
say this.  If you have your cat on immune boosters, a great diet, and no stress 
while they are asymptomatic, and are loving them well, making them feel good, I 
really, really believe that extends the life expectancy more than we realize.  
You might do an archive search on the word 'years' and see posts that tell how 
old their kitty was when they died.  I'm not sure if you can do a Boolean 
search, like years + death, but it might be possible.  I wouldn't get any date 
stuck in your head though.  Positive thoughts all the way!

  :)
  Wendy
   
  "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change 
the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has!" ~~~ Margaret Meade 
~~~



  - Original Message 
  From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 8:15:01 PM
  Subject: Re: Question about eye ulcers


  Ok, guys, since I'm feeling particularly sad tonight about my babies, let me 
ask this...

  How long have you all known of a cat surviving after FeLV+ diagnosis?

  I know the standard is, according to almost everyone, 2-3 years after 
diagnosis, but I'm sure some of you all have had experiences with cats living 
longer?

  Just curious what everyone's experiences have been.


  Michael





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