Howlong? was : Question about eye ulcers
Great advice, Wendy, great advice. Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From: wendy To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 8:35 PM Subject: Re: Question about eye ulcers Michael, There is such a range that I would not even say 2-3 years. I would say that the younger the cat, the more likely (but not necessarily a lot more likely) they will pass in the first year or third, but that is only based on trends I've seen here, no specific research. This does not include cats that throw the virus, which your cats could do. They say it's more likely for the cat to throw the virus within 3-6 months, but we've seen them become negative after years, which is always a joy to see, though rare. About 30-40% of cats throw the virus after exposure. Adult cats are much less likely to get the virus, which might explain why your younger one may have picked the virus up when he was a kitten (I hope I have that right). My Cricket was diagnosed when he was 2.5 years old; I am 85% sure he got it in utero from his mom. He died at 4.5 years. He only got sick 3 weeks before he died with anemia, that I feel would not have happened without the stress of 10 extra people living in our home for a week during the hurricane. He could still be here had he not been stressed, I don't know. Then, there's the cat at Best Friends that is 22 We had one here live to 16 years old. I forget whose kitty it was. There is another that lived to nine. There is just no way to tell the life expectancy, but I will say this. If you have your cat on immune boosters, a great diet, and no stress while they are asymptomatic, and are loving them well, making them feel good, I really, really believe that extends the life expectancy more than we realize. You might do an archive search on the word 'years' and see posts that tell how old their kitty was when they died. I'm not sure if you can do a Boolean search, like years + death, but it might be possible. I wouldn't get any date stuck in your head though. Positive thoughts all the way! :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 8:15:01 PM Subject: Re: Question about eye ulcers Ok, guys, since I'm feeling particularly sad tonight about my babies, let me ask this... How long have you all known of a cat surviving after FeLV+ diagnosis? I know the standard is, according to almost everyone, 2-3 years after diagnosis, but I'm sure some of you all have had experiences with cats living longer? Just curious what everyone's experiences have been. Michael -- Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL.com. -- Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase.
Re: Howlong? was : Question about eye ulcers
Thank you. That was sweet of you to say! :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: Susan Dubose [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 8:48:45 PM Subject: Howlong? was : Question about eye ulcers Great advice, Wendy, great advice. Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From: wendy To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 8:35 PM Subject: Re: Question about eye ulcers Michael, There is such a range that I would not even say 2-3 years. I would say that the younger the cat, the more likely (but not necessarily a lot more likely) they will pass in the first year or third, but that is only based on trends I've seen here, no specific research. This does not include cats that throw the virus, which your cats could do. They say it's more likely for the cat to throw the virus within 3-6 months, but we've seen them become negative after years, which is always a joy to see, though rare. About 30-40% of cats throw the virus after exposure. Adult cats are much less likely to get the virus, which might explain why your younger one may have picked the virus up when he was a kitten (I hope I have that right). My Cricket was diagnosed when he was 2.5 years old; I am 85% sure he got it in utero from his mom. He died at 4.5 years. He only got sick 3 weeks before he died with anemia, that I feel would not have happened without the stress of 10 extra people living in our home for a week during the hurricane. He could still be here had he not been stressed, I don't know. Then, there's the cat at Best Friends that is 22 We had one here live to 16 years old. I forget whose kitty it was. There is another that lived to nine. There is just no way to tell the life expectancy, but I will say this. If you have your cat on immune boosters, a great diet, and no stress while they are asymptomatic, and are loving them well, making them feel good, I really, really believe that extends the life expectancy more than we realize. You might do an archive search on the word 'years' and see posts that tell how old their kitty was when they died. I'm not sure if you can do a Boolean search, like years + death, but it might be possible. I wouldn't get any date stuck in your head though. Positive thoughts all the way! :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 8:15:01 PM Subject: Re: Question about eye ulcers Ok, guys, since I'm feeling particularly sad tonight about my babies, let me ask this... How long have you all known of a cat surviving after FeLV+ diagnosis? I know the standard is, according to almost everyone, 2-3 years after diagnosis, but I'm sure some of you all have had experiences with cats living longer? Just curious what everyone's experiences have been. Michael Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL.com. Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7
Re: Howlong? was : Question about eye ulcers
Wendy and Susan, my little gurus, You guys , I trust more than any vet...so here is my question: Which is worse for a kitty, to contact the FeLV virus through the mother as a kitten or to be exposed later in life? I think I know the answer.It is better to be exposed later in life, right? About what might the percentages be for a kitten throwing the virus if it came through the queen? My little girl became infected through her mom...I continue to live on a little bit of hope she could throw it some day, but I am trying to steel myself that I could lose her in a couple years...Right now she is a bundle of energy and just so incredible as cats go...She is about 6-months old... (This is an open question, but since I had both of these guys here, thought I'd ask...) Thanks, Glenda --- Susan Dubose [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Great advice, Wendy, great advice. Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From: wendy To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 8:35 PM Subject: Re: Question about eye ulcers Michael, There is such a range that I would not even say 2-3 years. I would say that the younger the cat, the more likely (but not necessarily a lot more likely) they will pass in the first year or third, but that is only based on trends I've seen here, no specific research. This does not include cats that throw the virus, which your cats could do. They say it's more likely for the cat to throw the virus within 3-6 months, but we've seen them become negative after years, which is always a joy to see, though rare. About 30-40% of cats throw the virus after exposure. Adult cats are much less likely to get the virus, which might explain why your younger one may have picked the virus up when he was a kitten (I hope I have that right). My Cricket was diagnosed when he was 2.5 years old; I am 85% sure he got it in utero from his mom. He died at 4.5 years. He only got sick 3 weeks before he died with anemia, that I feel would not have happened without the stress of 10 extra people living in our home for a week during the hurricane. He could still be here had he not been stressed, I don't know. Then, there's the cat at Best Friends that is 22 We had one here live to 16 years old. I forget whose kitty it was. There is another that lived to nine. There is just no way to tell the life expectancy, but I will say this. If you have your cat on immune boosters, a great diet, and no stress while they are asymptomatic, and are loving them well, making them feel good, I really, really believe that extends the life expectancy more than we realize. You might do an archive search on the word 'years' and see posts that tell how old their kitty was when they died. I'm not sure if you can do a Boolean search, like years + death, but it might be possible. I wouldn't get any date stuck in your head though. Positive thoughts all the way! :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 8:15:01 PM Subject: Re: Question about eye ulcers Ok, guys, since I'm feeling particularly sad tonight about my babies, let me ask this... How long have you all known of a cat surviving after FeLV+ diagnosis? I know the standard is, according to almost everyone, 2-3 years after diagnosis, but I'm sure some of you all have had experiences with cats living longer? Just curious what everyone's experiences have been. Michael -- Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL.com. -- Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. http://farechase.yahoo.com/
Re: Howlong? was : Question about eye ulcers
Yes, I can be socially acceptable @ times.. :) Baaa haa ...! But I did mean it, your post was very well written and helpful. Especially the part about not getting a date stuck in your head Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From: wendy To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 8:57 PM Subject: Re: Howlong? was : Question about eye ulcers Thank you. That was sweet of you to say! :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: Susan Dubose [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 8:48:45 PM Subject: Howlong? was : Question about eye ulcers Great advice, Wendy, great advice. Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From: wendy To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 8:35 PM Subject: Re: Question about eye ulcers Michael, There is such a range that I would not even say 2-3 years. I would say that the younger the cat, the more likely (but not necessarily a lot more likely) they will pass in the first year or third, but that is only based on trends I've seen here, no specific research. This does not include cats that throw the virus, which your cats could do. They say it's more likely for the cat to throw the virus within 3-6 months, but we've seen them become negative after years, which is always a joy to see, though rare. About 30-40% of cats throw the virus after exposure. Adult cats are much less likely to get the virus, which might explain why your younger one may have picked the virus up when he was a kitten (I hope I have that right). My Cricket was diagnosed when he was 2.5 years old; I am 85% sure he got it in utero from his mom. He died at 4.5 years. He only got sick 3 weeks before he died with anemia, that I feel would not have happened without the stress of 10 extra people living in our home for a week during the hurricane. He could still be here had he not been stressed, I don't know. Then, there's the cat at Best Friends that is 22 We had one here live to 16 years old. I forget whose kitty it was. There is another that lived to nine. There is just no way to tell the life expectancy, but I will say this. If you have your cat on immune boosters, a great diet, and no stress while they are asymptomatic, and are loving them well, making them feel good, I really, really believe that extends the life expectancy more than we realize. You might do an archive search on the word 'years' and see posts that tell how old their kitty was when they died. I'm not sure if you can do a Boolean search, like years + death, but it might be possible. I wouldn't get any date stuck in your head though. Positive thoughts all the way! :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 8:15:01 PM Subject: Re: Question about eye ulcers Ok, guys, since I'm feeling particularly sad tonight about my babies, let me ask this... How long have you all known of a cat surviving after FeLV+ diagnosis? I know the standard is, according to almost everyone, 2-3 years after diagnosis, but I'm sure some of you all have had experiences with cats living longer? Just curious what everyone's experiences have been. Michael Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL.com. Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. -- Take
Re: Howlong? was : Question about eye ulcers
I would have to say, contacting the disease later in life would be better( I know, poor chioce of words). Older cats have stronger immune systems, plus kittens still have to go through the surgery of being spayed / neuter, which is stressful on them. I have heard that lots of fiv+ kittens turn neg.,but not as many felv+ kittens turn neg. But Wendy is right, Glenda, do not get datesstuck in your head. Value the time you have w/your baby. Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From: glenda Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 9:08 PM Subject: Re: Howlong? was : Question about eye ulcers Wendy and Susan, my little gurus, You guys , I trust more than any vet...so here is my question: Which is worse for a kitty, to contact the FeLV virus through the mother as a kitten or to be exposed later in life? I think I know the answer.It is better to be exposed later in life, right? About what might the percentages be for a kitten throwing the virus if it came through the queen? My little girl became infected through her mom...I continue to live on a little bit of hope she could throw it some day, but I am trying to steel myself that I could lose her in a couple years...Right now she is a bundle of energy and just so incredible as cats go...She is about 6-months old... (This is an open question, but since I had both of these guys here, thought I'd ask...) Thanks, Glenda --- Susan Dubose [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Great advice, Wendy, great advice. Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From: wendy To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 8:35 PM Subject: Re: Question about eye ulcers Michael, There is such a range that I would not even say 2-3 years. I would say that the younger the cat, the more likely (but not necessarily a lot more likely) they will pass in the first year or third, but that is only based on trends I've seen here, no specific research. This does not include cats that throw the virus, which your cats could do. They say it's more likely for the cat to throw the virus within 3-6 months, but we've seen them become negative after years, which is always a joy to see, though rare. About 30-40% of cats throw the virus after exposure. Adult cats are much less likely to get the virus, which might explain why your younger one may have picked the virus up when he was a kitten (I hope I have that right). My Cricket was diagnosed when he was 2.5 years old; I am 85% sure he got it in utero from his mom. He died at 4.5 years. He only got sick 3 weeks before he died with anemia, that I feel would not have happened without the stress of 10 extra people living in our home for a week during the hurricane. He could still be here had he not been stressed, I don't know. Then, there's the cat at Best Friends that is 22 We had one here live to 16 years old. I forget whose kitty it was. There is another that lived to nine. There is just no way to tell the life expectancy, but I will say this. If you have your cat on immune boosters, a great diet, and no stress while they are asymptomatic, and are loving them well, making them feel good, I really, really believe that extends the life expectancy more than we realize. You might do an archive search on the word 'years' and see posts that tell how old their kitty was when they died. I'm not sure if you can do a Boolean search, like years + death, but it might be possible. I wouldn't get any date stuck in your head though. Positive thoughts all the way! :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 8:15:01 PM Subject: Re: Question about eye ulcers Ok, guys, since I'm feeling particularly sad tonight about my babies, let me ask this... How long have you all known of a cat
