Minnie and LJ (chicken broth recipe)
Hi LJ, I think what Michelle was asking is what has the vet diagnosed Minnie with besides the felv. Felv in and of itself does not make them sick. It makes their immune system weak and they can't fight off diseases as well as cats that don't have felv. You have to know what is making Minnie sick in order to know how to treat it. If your vet is telling you only that she has felv and not treating whatever is making her sick, only trying to keep her alive with fluids, then you need to see another vet or talk to your current one about diagnosing what's going on. Do try offering Minnie other things to eat, if her stomach is upset, she may be less likely to eat things that she's eaten before. Use your imagination and think like a cat. Sometimes they will lap food, but won't chew. Sometimes warming food will bring out the aroma more and get them to eat. Please do try the baby food. Get Beechnut, rather than Gerbers and an all meat type, like chicken, turkey or beef. Beef is harder to digest so you might be better off with poultry, but I have one kitty that won't eat any except the Gerbers ham baby food. You have to just keep trying. I've had kitties stop eating and when I give them just a taste, (with putting food in their mouths, either with my finger or syringe), they'll start to lap it off the bowl. It sort of gets them kick-started and reminds them they are hungry. Another hint for getting cats to drink more water is to get one of those kitty fountains. It circulates the water in the bowl and some cats are more likely to drink running water, maybe they are attracted to the sound of it. Give her plain broth and try the liver shake recipe that has been recommended on the list. Here's a recipe from a friend of mine that has worked well for some of my cats, (I've also added colostrum to the recipe): The following is a sort of 'tonic' I developed during episodes in my cats of inappetence and/or vomiting, diarrhea, etc., when they wouldn't eat food. This is a short-term option I have used successfully to provide some nutrients while supporting the cats back to health. I give it via oral syringe, usually in 1/8 tsp or 1/4 tsp doses at a time every 30-60 minutes depending upon the individual circumstances. 1/4 cup plain chicken broth (I prefer it fairly watery and not too much fat; I usually have some of this in the freezer from when I crock-pot a chicken for one of the above recipes) couple drops PetTinic 2 smidgens of KMR (VetSolutions Kitten Milk Replacement formula) 2 smidgens of Slippery Elm Bark powder 1 smidgen of Acidophilus powder (Kyo-Dophilus) Sending prayers for you and your beloved Minnie that she gets better very soon, Please do find yourself a vet that can help you, Nina l.j. crabtree wrote: What exactly is wrong with Minnie? I may have missed some of thethread.Is she being treated for anything? Felv, michelle. i hate that she is suffering like this... she has been my constant companion for the past ten years LJ
Re: Minnie and LJ (chicken broth recipe)
Nina is saying to get Beechnut because it is better quality, in that it does not contain corn starch, which cats don't need. But I have also found, with mine at least, that it is less palatable to them (probably because it is better for them!). I would get both brands (you may not even be able to find Beechnut-- they don't sell it much around here), and definitely try the Gerbers if she won't eat the Beechnut. I have found that chicken, turkey, and lamb (which I cringe at, having a sheep, and try to avoid for that reason) have seemed the most palatable to mine. Michelle In a message dated 7/1/2006 3:30:22 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Get Beechnut, rather than Gerbers and an all meat type, like chicken, turkey or beef. Beef is harder to digest so you might be better off with poultry, but I have one kitty that won't eat any except the Gerbers ham baby food.
Re: Minnie and LJ (chicken broth recipe)
You can poach chicken and grind it up to baby food consistency in a processor. Dixie and Kitty both like/liked it that way and you are not getting the grains you get in baby food.nor the additives. The little Black and Decker processors are great for this and cost very little. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2006 9:45 PM Subject: Re: Minnie and LJ (chicken broth recipe) Nina is saying to get Beechnut because it is better quality, in that it does not contain corn starch, which cats don't need. But I have also found, with mine at least, that it is less palatable to them (probably because it is better for them!). I would get both brands (you may not even be able to find Beechnut-- they don't sell it much around here), and definitely try the Gerbers if she won't eat the Beechnut. I have found that chicken, turkey, and lamb (which I cringe at, having a sheep, and try to avoid for that reason) have seemed the most palatable to mine. Michelle In a message dated 7/1/2006 3:30:22 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Get Beechnut, rather than Gerbers and an all meat type, like chicken, turkey or beef. Beef is harder to digest so you might be better off with poultry, but I have one kitty that won't eat any except the Gerbers ham baby food. No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.8/380 - Release Date: 6/30/2006
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Good for you for taking the courage to approach your neighbor on a sensitive issue. I hope the neighbor did spay her kitty. And blessings to you for taking the baby in! :) Wendy __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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Transfer Factor for immune support - LJ
LJ, No one has mentioned it lately, but some folks also give Transfer Factor to boost immune support. Many people swear by it, I'm torn myself. I don't know if it helps, but I'm convinced it doesn't hurt and it doesn't taste bad either, some of my kids like the taste. It has colostrum, (which Kerry mentions adding separately, I do too), and electrolytes. Here's some info: Here's a link to info about Transfer Factor: http://www.transferfactorinstitute.com/TransferFactor/basic.htm Here's the ordering info: The phone number for the company is: (888) 454-3374. There's a website link below, you might want to check out, but they don't have their order page encrypted, so it's safer to order over the phone. The wholesale price on the products from the most recent list I have is: Transfer Factor Classic -- 90 caps/$37.95 Transfer Factor Advanced Formula -- 60 caps/$39.95 TF Plus Advanced Formula -- 60 caps/$54.95 TF Feline Complete -- 60 - 2 grm. servings/$35.95 Animal Stress Pack -- 7 - 2 oz.packets/$48.95 www.4life.com http://www.4life.com l.j. crabtree wrote: MUWAHHH!!! from minnie!!! thanks ladies for this wonderful info!!! i will see what i can do independently and also check with the vet.. would giving vit c interfere with this? has anyone ever used goldenseal extract ( in glycerine) or is it sorta sketchy for cat kids with that whole herbal thing going on that doesn't seem to mesh with them)? i want minnie to be flying around the room with her wonderwoman suit on!!! actually to be more serious, i just want to do all i can to boost her immunity... is there anything that helps to boost their t-cells? i am a worrisome goober ( from va...we grow 'em here to tonya!! hehehe) much love and respect... LJ
LJ Crabtree
LJ- Are you in Dallas? If so, I think I might know you. Only the L I know only has one kitty that I know of. :) Wendy --- l.j. crabtree [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thank you, belinda, for sharing this! my little minne was just diagnaosed FELV last friday and i am scurrying to find wisdom regarding suppliments and diet hugs... LJ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Send Felvtalk mailing list submissions to Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can reach the person managing the list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Felvtalk digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: Ziggy's negative FeLV test! (Terri Brown) 2. Re: Idexx Snap Combo test (gary) 3. Re: Lucy ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 4. Re: Lucy ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 5. Interesting Study by Dr. Belfield on Vitamin C's affect on FeLV (Belinda Sauro) 6. Maine Coon (FeLV and FIV+) ... Has BB's lodged in him (Long Island, NY) (Patricia Lamoretti) 7. Re: Maine Coon (FeLV and FIV+) ... Has BB's lodged in him (Long Island, NY) (catatonya) -- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 12:54:24 -0500 From: Terri Brown Subject: Re: Ziggy's negative FeLV test! To: Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 EXCELLENT. =^..^= Terri, Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Sammi, Travis, and 6 furangels: RuthieGirl, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec Salome' =^..^= Furkid Photos! http://mysite.verizon.net/vze7sgqa/ My Personal Page: http://www.geocities.com/ruthiegirl1/terrispage.html?1083970447350 - Original Message - From: Laura Bond To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 9:43 AM Subject: Ziggy's negative FeLV test! I have great news! Ziggy my rescued cat who was FeLV positive just 3 months ago and on interferon treatment went to the vet for his monthly checkup. He had a second FeLV test done (along with my other two cats) and all three tests came back negative! I have heard about this happening before with false positives and cats actually in some cases, the test may later turn negative if the cats immune system eliminates the infection. (from a reliable source, check google). So I am very pleased to tell everyone that Ziggy is healthy again. He was on the interferon treatment (about 30$ for 2 months) and loved his medicine. It helped him gain weight too, which I know is a common problem. I would also like to tell everyone that lives in the Baltimore area to stop by Falls Road Animal Hospital which has excelent world famous vets who really care, along with 24 hour emergency care and even hospice care! They took great care of Ziggy and was the only vet I have been to that gave me and Ziggy hope. Best of luck to everyone's kitties they are all in my thoughts and prayers. Laura Bond _ Don't just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org/attachments/20060121/1cd228cd/attachment.htm -- Message: 2 Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 12:58:22 -0500 From: gary Subject: Re: Idexx Snap Combo test To: Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 They are good tests and false negatives are very rare. However, there is still a significant percentage of false positives. If a cat tests positive, you will definitely want to confirm that with an IFA test. Gary - Original Message - From: Sherry DeHaan To: Felvtalk ; FIV CATS Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 9:29 AM Subject: Idexx Snap Combo test Hi all I just brought home my second fiv+ beautiful boy and I was wondering if anyone here has heard of the Idexx Snap test,Jen the lady that runs the shelters says that is the best.I asked her to test both guys before I officially adopt.If they have felv I would probably just keep fostering them.I cannot go through financially what I did with my beautiful Maizee again.I want them tested because they were free roaming amongst felv+ cats too.she said because the healthy adult cats it shouldn't spread to them,but she offered to test them for me.Which I will do. I asked her about the Elisa test and she said the other was the gold star of them.Just wanted the opinions here.Thanks. Sherry -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org/attachments/20060121/889eb6be
