[Felvtalk] New to the list - Laura and Bailey

2011-06-11 Thread Laura Woytta
Hi everyone :-)  My name is Laura and I am on the list on behalf of my Aunt Sue 
and her fur-baby Bailey. It all started because she was not going to the 
bathroom regularly.   Bailey is 4 yrs old and was diagnosed last June with 
feline leukemia... she does have bone marrow involvement - mds or 
myelodysplastic syndrome.  My Aunt took her to Michigan State University and 
they wanted her to start chemo right away.  My Mom passed away last May (2010) 
from breast cancer so the last thing my Aunt wanted to try was chemo.  I do not 
have all the numbers but I know that her hct was 8% and she had her first 
transfusion in July of last year.  She was also started on prednisone twice 
daily, clavamox twice daily (i think), pet-tinic, dmg, epogen every other 
day(red blood cell stimulator), and two herbal remedies (I cannot remember the 
names of both - one is ashwaganda i think).  Last month she developed what they 
thought was a uti and she was placed on a quinalone
 antibiotic and she required her second transfusion.  She seems to be favoring 
her back leg as well. She can jump up but then she has problems jumping down. I 
am going to give her the info on the LTIC - sounds like that would possibly 
replace the epogen.  She is just looking for some hope and advice as to what 
she can do for Bailey.  Thank you so much (in advance).  

Laura, Sue and Bailey

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[Felvtalk] new to the list and to FeLV (litter eating)

2010-04-17 Thread Diane

 Hello

I've just joined your list and have what might be an odd, maybe even really 
odd, question.  I looked through the archives a bit but couldn't find a similar 
thread, so I apologize if there has been and I missed it.

I work for a program that provides support (food pantry, vet vouchers, pet 
wellness clinics, education and in-home care) to folks living with HIV and AIDS 
to allow them to keep their pets at home with them when the financial and 
physical constraints of their illness might not otherwise allow them to.  A 
number of our people have FeLV and FIV+ cats and while I'm somewhat familiar 
with FIV, having a FIV+ cat myself, I know nothing about FeLV and I'd like to 
learn from the list how to help my members better care for their + cats.  

I received a call from a client who is concerned about her FeLV cat - Precious 
has been somewhat more lethargic than usual but, most disturbingly to my client 
is that she has started, out of the blue, to eat cat litter.  She wonders if 
this is something that FeLV cats do when there is a specific issue going on - 
is she looking for nutrients she isn't getting?  Is she trying to calm some GI, 
oral, other upset?

My first thought with positive cats is to bring them to the vet, but, in this 
case, my client does not have the resources personally and she has exhausted 
her benefits through our program.  I am working all the places I can think of 
to try to find her some financial support ultimately, but in the meantime, I 
wonder if nayone out there has seen this sort of behavior and what it might 
mean?

Thanks for any thoughts you might have.

Best,

d

 

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518-527-5739


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Re: [Felvtalk] new to the list and to FeLV (litter eating)

2010-04-17 Thread Sharyl
Diane, eating litter is a classic sign of anemia.  Here is the link to a Yahoo 
Anemia group.
http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/Feline_Anemia/

Anemia is common with FeLV+ kitties.  Your client could try adding some Super B 
Complex, B12 and folic acid to the kitty's food.  
Sharyl

--- On Sat, 4/17/10, Diane dianeem...@aol.com wrote:

 From: Diane dianeem...@aol.com
 Subject: [Felvtalk] new to the list and to FeLV (litter eating)
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Saturday, April 17, 2010, 12:13 PM
 
  Hello
 
 I've just joined your list and have what might be an odd,
 maybe even really odd, question.  I looked through the
 archives a bit but couldn't find a similar thread, so I
 apologize if there has been and I missed it.
 
 I work for a program that provides support (food pantry,
 vet vouchers, pet wellness clinics, education and in-home
 care) to folks living with HIV and AIDS to allow them to
 keep their pets at home with them when the financial and
 physical constraints of their illness might not otherwise
 allow them to.  A number of our people have FeLV and
 FIV+ cats and while I'm somewhat familiar with FIV, having a
 FIV+ cat myself, I know nothing about FeLV and I'd like to
 learn from the list how to help my members better care for
 their + cats.  
 
 I received a call from a client who is concerned about her
 FeLV cat - Precious has been somewhat more lethargic than
 usual but, most disturbingly to my client is that she has
 started, out of the blue, to eat cat litter.  She
 wonders if this is something that FeLV cats do when there is
 a specific issue going on - is she looking for nutrients she
 isn't getting?  Is she trying to calm some GI, oral,
 other upset?
 
 My first thought with positive cats is to bring them to the
 vet, but, in this case, my client does not have the
 resources personally and she has exhausted her benefits
 through our program.  I am working all the places I can
 think of to try to find her some financial support
 ultimately, but in the meantime, I wonder if nayone out
 there has seen this sort of behavior and what it might
 mean?
 
 Thanks for any thoughts you might have.
 
 Best,
 
 d
 
  
 
 Diane
 518-527-5739
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] new to the list and to FeLV (litter eating)

2010-04-17 Thread Reyna Castano
The cat is eating litter because it's anemic. A cat I rescued used to eat 
litter too. He would also lick the ground a lot. Then one day he just stopped 
eating and wouldn't move. I took him to the vet and found out that he was 
severely anemic and felv+. 

--- On Sat, 4/17/10, Diane dianeem...@aol.com wrote:

From: Diane dianeem...@aol.com
Subject: [Felvtalk] new to the list and to FeLV (litter eating)
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Saturday, April 17, 2010, 9:13 AM


 Hello

I've just joined your list and have what might be an odd, maybe even really 
odd, question.  I looked through the archives a bit but couldn't find a similar 
thread, so I apologize if there has been and I missed it.

I work for a program that provides support (food pantry, vet vouchers, pet 
wellness clinics, education and in-home care) to folks living with HIV and AIDS 
to allow them to keep their pets at home with them when the financial and 
physical constraints of their illness might not otherwise allow them to.  A 
number of our people have FeLV and FIV+ cats and while I'm somewhat familiar 
with FIV, having a FIV+ cat myself, I know nothing about FeLV and I'd like to 
learn from the list how to help my members better care for their + cats.  

I received a call from a client who is concerned about her FeLV cat - Precious 
has been somewhat more lethargic than usual but, most disturbingly to my client 
is that she has started, out of the blue, to eat cat litter.  She wonders if 
this is something that FeLV cats do when there is a specific issue going on - 
is she looking for nutrients she isn't getting?  Is she trying to calm some GI, 
oral, other upset?

My first thought with positive cats is to bring them to the vet, but, in this 
case, my client does not have the resources personally and she has exhausted 
her benefits through our program.  I am working all the places I can think of 
to try to find her some financial support ultimately, but in the meantime, I 
wonder if nayone out there has seen this sort of behavior and what it might 
mean?

Thanks for any thoughts you might have.

Best,

d

 

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518-527-5739


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Re: [Felvtalk] new to the list and to FeLV (litter eating)

2010-04-17 Thread Chris
Good for you for being there to help those very lucky clients of yours!  One
of the things you might think about is the UAN Lifeline grants...  they
can't always help, but its always worth asking...

http://www.uan.org/index.cfm?navid=161 

There's also the AAHA Helping Pets Fund
http://www.aahanet.org/OtherSites/helpingpets.aspx 

And if you're near vet school, sometimes they have low cost services
available..

Christiane Biagi

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Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 12:14 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] new to the list and to FeLV (litter eating)


 Hello

I've just joined your list and have what might be an odd, maybe even really
odd, question.  I looked through the archives a bit but couldn't find a
similar thread, so I apologize if there has been and I missed it.

I work for a program that provides support (food pantry, vet vouchers, pet
wellness clinics, education and in-home care) to folks living with HIV and
AIDS to allow them to keep their pets at home with them when the financial
and physical constraints of their illness might not otherwise allow them to.
A number of our people have FeLV and FIV+ cats and while I'm somewhat
familiar with FIV, having a FIV+ cat myself, I know nothing about FeLV and
I'd like to learn from the list how to help my members better care for their
+ cats.  

I received a call from a client who is concerned about her FeLV cat -
Precious has been somewhat more lethargic than usual but, most disturbingly
to my client is that she has started, out of the blue, to eat cat litter.
She wonders if this is something that FeLV cats do when there is a specific
issue going on - is she looking for nutrients she isn't getting?  Is she
trying to calm some GI, oral, other upset?

My first thought with positive cats is to bring them to the vet, but, in
this case, my client does not have the resources personally and she has
exhausted her benefits through our program.  I am working all the places I
can think of to try to find her some financial support ultimately, but in
the meantime, I wonder if nayone out there has seen this sort of behavior
and what it might mean?

Thanks for any thoughts you might have.

Best,

d

 

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518-527-5739


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Re: [Felvtalk] new to the list and to FeLV (litter eating)

2010-04-17 Thread Belinda Sauro
   Almost all cats I know that do this are anemic.  She should get her 
to the vet and have blood work done specifically looking for anemia and 
hemobartonella a virus positives are very prone to get, it comes from 
fleas and even if the test is negative I would start the cat on 
doxocycline and prednisolone.  It is very, very, very hard to find the 
parasites on a slide, I know of cats that have been tested 5 or 6 times 
before they actually found the parasite, thankfully their vets put them 
on the doxy and pred or they may very well have died. Hemobartonella is 
fatal if not treated.


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Re: [Felvtalk] new to the list and to FeLV (litter eating)

2010-04-17 Thread Belinda Sauro
  Yes that should be added along with iron, all of these can be found 
in Nutrived:


http://www.calvetsupply.com/product/Nutrived_B_Complex_4oz/Veterinary_Nutritional_Supplements

this is the best palce I have found to buy this.

BUT if the anemia is because of hemobatonella this will not help, you 
need to have the cat on doxy or some other tetrocycline family 
antibiotic and prednisolone.



Diane, eating litter is a classic sign of anemia.  Here is the link to a Yahoo 
Anemia group.
http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/Feline_Anemia/

Anemia is common with FeLV+ kitties.  Your client could try adding some Super B Complex, B12 and folic acid to the kitty's food.  
Sharyl
  


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[Felvtalk] Fwd: New to the list, would like some advice!

2009-04-01 Thread James G Wilson
From:avia.rausc...@gmail.com
Subject: New to the list, would like some advice!

-
Hello!

I'll try to make the history brief but clear (not always easy 
for me), we adopted a kitten from ACC here in NYC in 
July 2007 to keep our cranky, one and a half year old, 
only cat Onyx company. The kitten (Cinder) was 9 weeks 
old and tested negative at adoption for FeLV. We  
added a third cat (Horus) from a rescue group that 
October (tested negative after adoption, the rescue group 
said he was negative, but there was no record of testing 
with his paperwork), and this past October added a tamed 
feral (Blackie) to the mix (kept separate from the other 
three until she was medically cleared and tested 
negative).

On January 12, 2009 our darling little Cinder was 
diagnosed with lymphoma after an extremely sudden 
decline (fine on Friday, heavy breathing, not 
eating/drinking, hiding under the bed Sunday night) at  
one year and eight months of age. I took her to the vet 
first thing Monday morning, and after xrays and an 
ultrasound found her chest so full of fluid she couldn't 
breathe and a massive tumor in her liver, we made the 
decision to let her go rather than tormenting her with  
treatment to make ourselves feel better. The postmortem 
tests revealed that Cinder had FeLV. We were in shock 
and couldn't believe how quickly she got sick!

Onyx is a three year old persian, Horus is a five year old 
mix (Siberian/Maine Coon?) and Blackie is a dsh. Onyx 
and Blackie have been the picture of health, Horus was 
diagnosed with asthma almost a year ago and is on 
Flovent twice a day.

After waiting the recommended two months, I had the 
other three tested this past Thursday. Horus and Blackie 
are negative, but Onyx came up positive. Yesterday, I had 
Horus  Blackie vaccinated, and the IFA test results for 
Onyx will be back in about a week. For now I have some 
questions that maybe some of you can answer:

1. My vet said no booster was necessary for the 
vaccinated cats, yet I see many references here to 30 day 
boosters - should I ask again or insist on the boosters?

2. The vet said to separate my kitties, but I can't stand the 
idea of locking Onyx up. From what I read, most of you 
seem to mix your positive and negative-vaccinated kitties, 
so am I being awful by not separating them? They say low 
stress environment, but Onyx likes to roam the apartment 
and it seems like it would be very stressful for her to be 
confined.

3. I feed my kitties Weruva canned and California Natural 
dry. I was thinking about supplementing with a vitamin like 
Nupro. Any suggestions in that department? Onyx is very 
picky, and it has been difficult to find foods that she will 
eat that don't upset her tummy.

I guess that's it for now, any advice anyone can give will 
be most appreciated!!

Avia
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Re: [Felvtalk] Fwd: New to the list, would like some advice!

2009-04-01 Thread Diane Rosenfeldt
Hi, Avia --

I'm so sorry you lost Cinder.  It must have been a terrible shock to
everybody.  Gentle Bridge vibes to her.

I think your instincts are right about Onyx.  She will be much happier if
she's allowed to mix with the others, and probably at this point anybody who
would have gotten FeLV has already gotten it.  As you've noted, many members
here have successfully mixed their kitties.  

It sounds like you're doing everything right.  Give Onyx the best food you
can, keep up with vet visits so things don't sneak up on you (although as
you've seen with Cinder, sometimes sh*t happens awfully fast).  I'm sure
others on this list will have more pointers for you.  Oh, and brava for
taking in this smorgasbord of kitties!

Diane R. 

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Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 12:42 PM
To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Fwd: New to the list, would like some advice!

From:avia.rausc...@gmail.com
Subject: New to the list, would like some advice!

-
Hello!

I'll try to make the history brief but clear (not always easy for me), we
adopted a kitten from ACC here in NYC in July 2007 to keep our cranky, one
and a half year old, only cat Onyx company. The kitten (Cinder) was 9 weeks
old and tested negative at adoption for FeLV. We added a third cat (Horus)
from a rescue group that October (tested negative after adoption, the rescue
group said he was negative, but there was no record of testing with his
paperwork), and this past October added a tamed feral (Blackie) to the mix
(kept separate from the other three until she was medically cleared and
tested negative).

On January 12, 2009 our darling little Cinder was diagnosed with lymphoma
after an extremely sudden decline (fine on Friday, heavy breathing, not
eating/drinking, hiding under the bed Sunday night) at one year and eight
months of age. I took her to the vet first thing Monday morning, and after
xrays and an ultrasound found her chest so full of fluid she couldn't
breathe and a massive tumor in her liver, we made the decision to let her go
rather than tormenting her with treatment to make ourselves feel better. The
postmortem tests revealed that Cinder had FeLV. We were in shock and
couldn't believe how quickly she got sick!

Onyx is a three year old persian, Horus is a five year old mix
(Siberian/Maine Coon?) and Blackie is a dsh. Onyx and Blackie have been the
picture of health, Horus was diagnosed with asthma almost a year ago and is
on Flovent twice a day.

After waiting the recommended two months, I had the other three tested this
past Thursday. Horus and Blackie are negative, but Onyx came up positive.
Yesterday, I had Horus  Blackie vaccinated, and the IFA test results for
Onyx will be back in about a week. For now I have some questions that maybe
some of you can answer:

1. My vet said no booster was necessary for the vaccinated cats, yet I see
many references here to 30 day boosters - should I ask again or insist on
the boosters?

2. The vet said to separate my kitties, but I can't stand the idea of
locking Onyx up. From what I read, most of you seem to mix your positive and
negative-vaccinated kitties, so am I being awful by not separating them?
They say low stress environment, but Onyx likes to roam the apartment and it
seems like it would be very stressful for her to be confined.

3. I feed my kitties Weruva canned and California Natural dry. I was
thinking about supplementing with a vitamin like Nupro. Any suggestions in
that department? Onyx is very picky, and it has been difficult to find foods
that she will eat that don't upset her tummy.

I guess that's it for now, any advice anyone can give will be most
appreciated!!

Avia
===

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Re: [Felvtalk] Fwd: New to the list, would like some advice!

2009-04-01 Thread catatonya
I'm sorry to hear of your loss.  Most people on our list keep their positives 
and negatives together.  If your two negatives haven't tested positive after 
all this time, they are probably not going to.  I don't do boosters on my 
negative cats. I lost 2 negative cats in March due to different causes. My 
positive cat is one of my healthiest at at least 10 years old...
tonya

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From: James G Wilson phaed...@charter.net
Subject: [Felvtalk] Fwd: New to the list, would like some advice!
To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Wednesday, April 1, 2009, 1:41 PM


From:    avia.rausc...@gmail.com
Subject: New to the list, would like some advice!

-
Hello!

I'll try to make the history brief but clear (not always easy 
for me), we adopted a kitten from ACC here in NYC in 
July 2007 to keep our cranky, one and a half year old, 
only cat Onyx company. The kitten (Cinder) was 9 weeks 
old and tested negative at adoption for FeLV. We  
added a third cat (Horus) from a rescue group that 
October (tested negative after adoption, the rescue group 
said he was negative, but there was no record of testing 
with his paperwork), and this past October added a tamed 
feral (Blackie) to the mix (kept separate from the other 
three until she was medically cleared and tested 
negative).

On January 12, 2009 our darling little Cinder was 
diagnosed with lymphoma after an extremely sudden 
decline (fine on Friday, heavy breathing, not 
eating/drinking, hiding under the bed Sunday night) at  
one year and eight months of age. I took her to the vet 
first thing Monday morning, and after xrays and an 
ultrasound found her chest so full of fluid she couldn't 
breathe and a massive tumor in her liver, we made the 
decision to let her go rather than tormenting her with  
treatment to make ourselves feel better. The postmortem 
tests revealed that Cinder had FeLV. We were in shock 
and couldn't believe how quickly she got sick!

Onyx is a three year old persian, Horus is a five year old 
mix (Siberian/Maine Coon?) and Blackie is a dsh. Onyx 
and Blackie have been the picture of health, Horus was 
diagnosed with asthma almost a year ago and is on 
Flovent twice a day.

After waiting the recommended two months, I had the 
other three tested this past Thursday. Horus and Blackie 
are negative, but Onyx came up positive. Yesterday, I had 
Horus  Blackie vaccinated, and the IFA test results for 
Onyx will be back in about a week. For now I have some 
questions that maybe some of you can answer:

1. My vet said no booster was necessary for the 
vaccinated cats, yet I see many references here to 30 day 
boosters - should I ask again or insist on the boosters?

2. The vet said to separate my kitties, but I can't stand the 
idea of locking Onyx up. From what I read, most of you 
seem to mix your positive and negative-vaccinated kitties, 
so am I being awful by not separating them? They say low 
stress environment, but Onyx likes to roam the apartment 
and it seems like it would be very stressful for her to be 
confined.

3. I feed my kitties Weruva canned and California Natural 
dry. I was thinking about supplementing with a vitamin like 
Nupro. Any suggestions in that department? Onyx is very 
picky, and it has been difficult to find foods that she will 
eat that don't upset her tummy.

I guess that's it for now, any advice anyone can give will 
be most appreciated!!

Avia
===

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http://www.felineleukemia.org (FeLV Research  Support)
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Re: [Felvtalk] Hello- new to the list

2009-03-25 Thread Cougar Clan
I believe it has to be from a roost and not normal bird droppings what  
are washed off...you may want to check though.  Several of mine have  
come from a 40-50 year old pine thicket which, by its nature, has been  
a roost for starlings and other birds.  Copper and Thomas came from  
that thicket when they were about 8 weeks old and it was a concern for  
respiratory issues.  FYI:  They are fine and I am blessed by their  
friendship.  And, yes, you can still tell they are ferals.

On Mar 24, 2009, at 11:44 PM, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:

bird droppings could cause that?  that scares me as i feed the wild  
birds on my deck and that is where my babies love to lie in the sun  
and snooze.  may have to change where i feed the birds and clean  
deck up with Clorox.  dorlis

 Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com wrote:
Yes. They told me that moisture or oxygen will deplete dry food of  
those
vitamins. Another person took their cat in when I took Coco (we  
went over to
Ames teaching school). Her cat could not walk at all and did not  
survive.
It's a rare condition and can also be caused by toxins or the  
disease passed
via bird droppings (I forget the name right now...toxoplasmosis,  
maybe).
Anyway, it was frightening and I am so grateful to have my kitty.  
They had
to take biopsies of her muscles and send them to Texas to be  
analyzed.

Laurie

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Rosenfeldt, Diane

Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 2:49 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hello- new to the list

Wow, Laurie, I had never heard of that So I'm guessing that dry  
food
should be kept, say, in its bag with the top rolled so there's no  
extra

air?  Wacky!

Diane R.

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To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hello- new to the list

Coco lost weight, couldn't jump up, her tongue would come out of her
mouth
and her legs weren't working right. Not FeLV+but she was diagnosed  
with
myonecrosis. A change in food (from dry to canned) reversed her  
issues.

The
vets tested for all the usual causes and she was negative so they
assumed
nutritional. I would dump all the dry (Wellness) into a tupperware
container. Vets said that exposed the food to too much air which
depleted
the food of vitamin D and Selenium and caused muscle death. For what
it's
worth
Laurie

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Ackerman

Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 2:17 PM
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Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hello- new to the list


I appreciate everyones concern  thoughts.  Looking back at what I've
written so far, I can see that I haven't been very clear about what
was/is
going on with Grrr.  I've been a little emotional these last few  
days!

I
took him in monday morning because he had been having a very  
difficult

time
doing normal cat stuff- jumping, running, etc- saturday night   
sunday,

and
it was getting progressively worse as hours passed.  I had consulted
with my
vet on Sunday about possibly taking him to emergency, but because  
he was

not
displaying any very dramatic symptoms of stroke, seizure, obvious
distress
or pain, we decided to save him the trip and bring him in first thing
Monday
morning.  He had been losing weight, and it seemed likely that his
weakness
was a symptom of whatever was causing the weight loss- hence the  
blood

tests
that led to the leukemia diagnosis.  The vet believes it likely  
that the

weakness  instability are a result of a spinal tumor caused by
lymphosarcoma, and I believe that yesterday's dramatic neurological
symptoms
were simply a progression from what had been going on all weekend,
exacerbated by the stressful hospitalization  long car rides- he
doesn't
travel well either.  Grrr doesn't do anything easily except look
handsome 
growl.  The cortisol shot was administered as an effort at pain
management,
to see if it helped him get around easier.  Just got him home and  
he's
looking OK- a bit better than yesterday, and he sure seems happy to  
be

home.
We have a very long term relationship with this doctor, and do trust
him-
obviously, mistakes can be made, but I am comfortable with the  
treatment

Grrr has been given and the plans we have discussed for his future. I
am, as
has been suggested, throwing out the calender- my cat seems happy,  
if a

bit
awkward physically, and that makes me happy!  Amy
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2009-03-25 Thread Debbie Harrison

Just be sure to pay them before that year...otherwise the interest rate is 
astronomical!

Debbie (COL)
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 Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 22:40:25 -0500
 From: dlg...@windstream.net
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 CC: fs...@roadrunner.com
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] hello- new to the list.
 
 reL finances and caring for kitties, has anyone else heard of Care Credit? i 
 fuond out about it from my dentist and it can be used for glasses, dental 
 work, vets and even plastic surgery. the vet collects the charges until they 
 reach at least $300.00 and then sends charges to Care Credit. you have a year 
 to pay it off with no interest. you only pay interest if you take more than i 
 year to complete payment. it has helped me out with my babies because i like 
 to get a complete blood profile and urinealysis (?) on each one so we have a 
 base line to start from. also helps when i have to get shots for all 5 at 
 same time. dorlis
  Sue  Frank Koren fs...@roadrunner.com wrote: 
  Hi Amy, I am so sorry you are going through this. It is hard to want to 
  care for a beloved kitty when they want no part of it. My sweet gentle 
  Tucker used to go absolutely ballistic whenever I tried to give him a pill. 
  Sometimes I think it is kinder to choose the least threatening or invasive 
  ways to help a sick kitty. Some would much rather be gently let go in their 
  own time with dignity then to have procedures forced upon them that might 
  lengthen their lives but would make them extremely unhappy. Your best 
  choice may be feeding him the highest quality food you can find. (I like 
  Wellness Core canned food.) And making sure there is little or no stress in 
  his life. Best wishes for as much quality time as possible with Grrr.
 You picked such a great name for a feisty cat! 
 Sue
 
  Amy Ackerman swa...@hotmail.com wrote: 
  
  Thanks for the welcome  kind words, Gary  Laurie. My vet believes Grrr 
  has lymphosarcoma, but for the time being the diagnostic tools recommended 
  to locate the suspected spinal tumor are simply out of reach financially. 
  Times are lean for everyone, I know; this was a very difficult day, 
  deciding courses of treatment for this very cool, loved cat based on our 
  credit lines. He's having a rough time getting around. Grrr is also, as you 
  may be able to gather from his name, not a terribly good patient. That may 
  be the understatement of the month. He is slightly anemic as well, but 
  his... attitude doesn't make him a terribly good candidate for, say, daily 
  pills, etc. He's getting a cortisol shot to see if it improves his 
  mobility/comfort  an injectable, long term antibiotic (I need to get the 
  drug name) to counter the immune suppressive effects of the cortisol. He 
  eats like a horse, so we're going to try some of the suggested dietary 
  modifications as well. Any one with suggestions for minimally invasive 
  treatments (minimally invasive by this cat's standards is, say, tossing a 
  tasty tidbit gently from across the room, careful not to let it land too 
  close), please share as I continue to dredge through the archives. My other 
  two are keenly looking around for Grrr tonight- should be a fun car ride 
  home tomorrow with all three, plus the mastiff going along to get her 
  rabies vax. I'll check back in tomorrow- good night, all, and thanks again 
  for the support! 
  
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Re: [Felvtalk] hello- new to the list.

2009-03-25 Thread dlgegg
that is why i make sure to get it paid off long before the due date.  but it is 
still better than paying 600.00 at one crack.  i usually make payments of 
$100.00 per month and that does the trick.  dorlis
 Debbie Harrison dlh1...@hotmail.com wrote: 
 
Just be sure to pay them before that year...otherwise the interest rate is 
astronomical!

Debbie (COL)
The time is always right to do what is right -  Martin Luther King


 
 Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 22:40:25 -0500
 From: dlg...@windstream.net
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 CC: fs...@roadrunner.com
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] hello- new to the list.
 
 reL finances and caring for kitties, has anyone else heard of Care Credit? i 
 fuond out about it from my dentist and it can be used for glasses, dental 
 work, vets and even plastic surgery. the vet collects the charges until they 
 reach at least $300.00 and then sends charges to Care Credit. you have a year 
 to pay it off with no interest. you only pay interest if you take more than i 
 year to complete payment. it has helped me out with my babies because i like 
 to get a complete blood profile and urinealysis (?) on each one so we have a 
 base line to start from. also helps when i have to get shots for all 5 at 
 same time. dorlis
  Sue  Frank Koren fs...@roadrunner.com wrote: 
  Hi Amy, I am so sorry you are going through this. It is hard to want to 
  care for a beloved kitty when they want no part of it. My sweet gentle 
  Tucker used to go absolutely ballistic whenever I tried to give him a pill. 
  Sometimes I think it is kinder to choose the least threatening or invasive 
  ways to help a sick kitty. Some would much rather be gently let go in their 
  own time with dignity then to have procedures forced upon them that might 
  lengthen their lives but would make them extremely unhappy. Your best 
  choice may be feeding him the highest quality food you can find. (I like 
  Wellness Core canned food.) And making sure there is little or no stress in 
  his life. Best wishes for as much quality time as possible with Grrr.
 You picked such a great name for a feisty cat! 
 Sue
 
  Amy Ackerman swa...@hotmail.com wrote: 
  
  Thanks for the welcome  kind words, Gary  Laurie. My vet believes Grrr 
  has lymphosarcoma, but for the time being the diagnostic tools recommended 
  to locate the suspected spinal tumor are simply out of reach financially. 
  Times are lean for everyone, I know; this was a very difficult day, 
  deciding courses of treatment for this very cool, loved cat based on our 
  credit lines. He's having a rough time getting around. Grrr is also, as you 
  may be able to gather from his name, not a terribly good patient. That may 
  be the understatement of the month. He is slightly anemic as well, but 
  his... attitude doesn't make him a terribly good candidate for, say, daily 
  pills, etc. He's getting a cortisol shot to see if it improves his 
  mobility/comfort  an injectable, long term antibiotic (I need to get the 
  drug name) to counter the immune suppressive effects of the cortisol. He 
  eats like a horse, so we're going to try some of the suggested dietary 
  modifications as well. Any one with suggestions for minimally invasive 
  treatments (minimally invasive by this cat's standards is, say, tossing a 
  tasty tidbit gently from across the room, careful not to let it land too 
  close), please share as I continue to dredge through the archives. My other 
  two are keenly looking around for Grrr tonight- should be a fun car ride 
  home tomorrow with all three, plus the mastiff going along to get her 
  rabies vax. I'll check back in tomorrow- good night, all, and thanks again 
  for the support! 
  
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Re: [Felvtalk] hello- new to the list.

2009-03-25 Thread Belinda Sauro
Yes I have used care credit for my teeth when I had to have a 
permanent tooth made.  It was a $4000.00 bill and using care Credit was 
great, I paid interest but paid it off early so it wasn't that bad, my 
insurance didn't cover the work so it would have had to come out of my 
pocket and the interest was cheaper this way.


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Re: [Felvtalk] hello- new to the list.

2009-03-25 Thread Kelley Saveika
Not all vets give you a year to pay over $300, most of ours do not as it
costs them extra.  We had a $700 bill on one cat and got 3 months to pay and
of course weren't able to.

2009/3/25 Debbie Harrison dlh1...@hotmail.com


 Just be sure to pay them before that year...otherwise the interest rate is
 astronomical!

 Debbie (COL)
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  Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 22:40:25 -0500
  From: dlg...@windstream.net
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  CC: fs...@roadrunner.com
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] hello- new to the list.
 
  reL finances and caring for kitties, has anyone else heard of Care
 Credit? i fuond out about it from my dentist and it can be used for glasses,
 dental work, vets and even plastic surgery. the vet collects the charges
 until they reach at least $300.00 and then sends charges to Care Credit. you
 have a year to pay it off with no interest. you only pay interest if you
 take more than i year to complete payment. it has helped me out with my
 babies because i like to get a complete blood profile and urinealysis (?) on
 each one so we have a base line to start from. also helps when i have to get
 shots for all 5 at same time. dorlis
   Sue  Frank Koren fs...@roadrunner.com wrote:
   Hi Amy, I am so sorry you are going through this. It is hard to want to
 care for a beloved kitty when they want no part of it. My sweet gentle
 Tucker used to go absolutely ballistic whenever I tried to give him a pill.
 Sometimes I think it is kinder to choose the least threatening or invasive
 ways to help a sick kitty. Some would much rather be gently let go in their
 own time with dignity then to have procedures forced upon them that might
 lengthen their lives but would make them extremely unhappy. Your best choice
 may be feeding him the highest quality food you can find. (I like Wellness
 Core canned food.) And making sure there is little or no stress in his life.
 Best wishes for as much quality time as possible with Grrr.
  You picked such a great name for a feisty cat!
  Sue
 
   Amy Ackerman swa...@hotmail.com wrote:
  
   Thanks for the welcome  kind words, Gary  Laurie. My vet believes
 Grrr has lymphosarcoma, but for the time being the diagnostic tools
 recommended to locate the suspected spinal tumor are simply out of reach
 financially. Times are lean for everyone, I know; this was a very difficult
 day, deciding courses of treatment for this very cool, loved cat based on
 our credit lines. He's having a rough time getting around. Grrr is also, as
 you may be able to gather from his name, not a terribly good patient. That
 may be the understatement of the month. He is slightly anemic as well, but
 his... attitude doesn't make him a terribly good candidate for, say, daily
 pills, etc. He's getting a cortisol shot to see if it improves his
 mobility/comfort  an injectable, long term antibiotic (I need to get the
 drug name) to counter the immune suppressive effects of the cortisol. He
 eats like a horse, so we're going to try some of the suggested dietary
 modifications as well. Any one with suggestions for minimally invasive
 treatments (minimally invasive by this cat's standards is, say, tossing a
 tasty tidbit gently from across the room, careful not to let it land too
 close), please share as I continue to dredge through the archives. My other
 two are keenly looking around for Grrr tonight- should be a fun car ride
 home tomorrow with all three, plus the mastiff going along to get her rabies
 vax. I'll check back in tomorrow- good night, all, and thanks again for the
 support!
  
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Re: [Felvtalk] Hello- new to the list.

2009-03-24 Thread dlgegg
hi,  my vet told me to keep others seperated until their last booster just to 
be sure.  dorlis
 Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com wrote: 
 Hi Amy. I didn't find out my boys were positive until they were in their
 teens. The vet said they were likely carriers and since Squeaky was never
 sick, the vet said his was likely in his bone marrow. Stripes was
 symptomatic on and off. Stripes lived several more years (to age 16) and
 Squeaky lived to age 22. 
 
 Isabella tested positive almost 2 years ago and is the picture of health. 
 
 Your boy could live a long life.
 
 Keep your other kitties separate for at least 24 hours after they are
 vaccinated (I can't recall if they should be separate until the booster in
 30 daysdoes anyone know?).
 
 Laurie
 
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 Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 8:19 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Hello- new to the list.
 
 
 Just wanted to say a quick hello to all the list members- i've just joined
 upon learning this afternoon that my much adored 10 year old cat is
 positive.  We're unsure as to how he contracted feluk as he was tested
 before we adopted him, and the two cats we have adopted since then were both
 tested... sigh.  We take the other two in tomorrow morning to be tested 
 hopefully vaccinated, and then we'll bring my big boy home.  Hopefully he
 will be with us for at least a few more months.  I've been scouring the
 archives and can't express enough gratitude- there is so much wonderful
 information  support here.  I look forward to being a part of this
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2009-03-24 Thread dlgegg
Sue and Frank, where do you get Wellness Core canned food?  do you have an 
email or phone number?  never heard of this before.  
 Sue  Frank Koren fs...@roadrunner.com wrote: 
 Hi Amy, I am so sorry you are going through this.  It is hard to want to care 
 for a beloved kitty when they want no part of it.  My sweet gentle Tucker 
 used to go absolutely ballistic whenever I tried to give him a pill. 
 Sometimes I think it is kinder to choose the least threatening or invasive 
 ways to help a sick kitty.  Some would much rather be gently let go in their 
 own time with dignity then to have procedures forced upon them that might 
 lengthen their lives but would make them extremely unhappy.  Your best choice 
 may be feeding him the highest quality food you can find. (I like Wellness 
 Core canned food.)  And making sure there is little or no stress in his life. 
  Best wishes for as much quality time as possible with Grrr.
You picked such a great name for a feisty cat! 
Sue
 
 Amy Ackerman swa...@hotmail.com wrote: 
 
  Thanks for the welcome  kind words, Gary  Laurie.   My vet 
 believes Grrr has lymphosarcoma, but for the time being the diagnostic tools 
 recommended to locate the suspected spinal tumor are simply out of reach 
 financially.  Times are lean for everyone, I know; this was a very difficult 
 day, deciding courses of treatment for this very cool, loved cat based on our 
 credit lines.  He's having a rough time getting around.  Grrr is also, as you 
 may be able to gather from his name, not a terribly good patient.  That may 
 be the understatement of the month.  He is slightly anemic as well, but 
 his... attitude doesn't make him a terribly good candidate for, say, daily 
 pills, etc.  He's getting a cortisol shot to see if it improves his 
 mobility/comfort  an injectable, long term antibiotic (I need to get the 
 drug name) to counter the immune suppressive effects of the cortisol.  He 
 eats like a horse, so we're going to try some of the suggested dietary 
 modifications as well.  Any one with suggestions for minimally invasive 
 treatments (minimally invasive by this cat's standards is, say, tossing a 
 tasty tidbit gently from across the room, careful not to let it land too 
 close), please share as I continue to dredge through the archives.  My other 
 two are keenly looking around for Grrr tonight- should be a fun car ride home 
 tomorrow with all three, plus the mastiff going along to get her rabies vax.  
 I'll check back in tomorrow- good night, all, and thanks again for the 
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2009-03-24 Thread dlgegg
reL  finances and caring for kitties, has anyone else heard of Care Credit?  i 
fuond out about it from my dentist and it can be used for glasses, dental work, 
vets and even plastic surgery.  the vet collects the charges until they reach 
at least $300.00 and then sends charges to Care Credit.  you have a year to pay 
it off with no interest.  you only pay interest if you take more than i year to 
complete payment.  it has helped me out with my babies because i like to get a 
complete blood profile and urinealysis (?) on each one so we have a base line 
to start from.  also helps when i have to get shots for all 5 at same time.  
dorlis
 Sue  Frank Koren fs...@roadrunner.com wrote: 
 Hi Amy, I am so sorry you are going through this.  It is hard to want to care 
 for a beloved kitty when they want no part of it.  My sweet gentle Tucker 
 used to go absolutely ballistic whenever I tried to give him a pill. 
 Sometimes I think it is kinder to choose the least threatening or invasive 
 ways to help a sick kitty.  Some would much rather be gently let go in their 
 own time with dignity then to have procedures forced upon them that might 
 lengthen their lives but would make them extremely unhappy.  Your best choice 
 may be feeding him the highest quality food you can find. (I like Wellness 
 Core canned food.)  And making sure there is little or no stress in his life. 
  Best wishes for as much quality time as possible with Grrr.
You picked such a great name for a feisty cat! 
Sue
 
 Amy Ackerman swa...@hotmail.com wrote: 
 
  Thanks for the welcome  kind words, Gary  Laurie.   My vet 
 believes Grrr has lymphosarcoma, but for the time being the diagnostic tools 
 recommended to locate the suspected spinal tumor are simply out of reach 
 financially.  Times are lean for everyone, I know; this was a very difficult 
 day, deciding courses of treatment for this very cool, loved cat based on our 
 credit lines.  He's having a rough time getting around.  Grrr is also, as you 
 may be able to gather from his name, not a terribly good patient.  That may 
 be the understatement of the month.  He is slightly anemic as well, but 
 his... attitude doesn't make him a terribly good candidate for, say, daily 
 pills, etc.  He's getting a cortisol shot to see if it improves his 
 mobility/comfort  an injectable, long term antibiotic (I need to get the 
 drug name) to counter the immune suppressive effects of the cortisol.  He 
 eats like a horse, so we're going to try some of the suggested dietary 
 modifications as well.  Any one with suggestions for minimally invasive 
 treatments (minimally invasive by this cat's standards is, say, tossing a 
 tasty tidbit gently from across the room, careful not to let it land too 
 close), please share as I continue to dredge through the archives.  My other 
 two are keenly looking around for Grrr tonight- should be a fun car ride home 
 tomorrow with all three, plus the mastiff going along to get her rabies vax.  
 I'll check back in tomorrow- good night, all, and thanks again for the 
 support! 
  
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Re: [Felvtalk] hello- new to the list.

2009-03-24 Thread Laurieskatz
You can buy it online (eg Waggin'Tails). If you call around you might find a 
retailer in your area...in my city, a small private garden shop sells it and so 
does Petco.
Laurie 


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To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
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Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] hello- new to the list.

Sue and Frank, where do you get Wellness Core canned food?  do you have an 
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2009-03-24 Thread dlgegg
thank you, got a Petco in our area.  dorlis
 Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com wrote: 
 You can buy it online (eg Waggin'Tails). If you call around you might find a 
 retailer in your area...in my city, a small private garden shop sells it and 
 so does Petco.
 Laurie 
 
 
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 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Cc: Sue  Frank Koren
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] hello- new to the list.
 
 Sue and Frank, where do you get Wellness Core canned food?  do you have an 
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2009-03-24 Thread dlgegg
Grrr sounds so much like my Snuggles.  is beautiful to look at, loves to be 
petted (for a while at least, not too much) but don't try to brush me or give 
me pills.  i will slash you to bits, bite and swat you with my tail.  don't 
know if it has anything to do with it, he was a Maine Coon.  he looked like it 
so took to a breeder and she confirmed it.  mostly, as long as things went his 
way, he was happy.  sometimes a pain to deal with, but i would not have missed 
my days with him for anything.  he is the one who took care of my father.  the 
day father became ill, Snuggles went into his room and would not leave.  if he 
called me in the middle of the night, Snug would come and get me, then jump on 
father's bed.  he stayed with him for a year and the day father passed, he left 
his room and never went back there.  he passed away 1 week after father.  dorlis
 Amy Ackerman swa...@hotmail.com wrote: 
 
 I appreciate everyones concern  thoughts.  Looking back at what I've written 
 so far, I can see that I haven't been very clear about what was/is going on 
 with Grrr.  I've been a little emotional these last few days!  I took him in 
 monday morning because he had been having a very difficult time doing normal 
 cat stuff- jumping, running, etc- saturday night  sunday, and it was getting 
 progressively worse as hours passed.  I had consulted with my vet on Sunday 
 about possibly taking him to emergency, but because he was not displaying any 
 very dramatic symptoms of stroke, seizure, obvious distress or pain, we 
 decided to save him the trip and bring him in first thing Monday morning.  He 
 had been losing weight, and it seemed likely that his weakness was a symptom 
 of whatever was causing the weight loss- hence the blood tests that led to 
 the leukemia diagnosis.  The vet believes it likely that the weakness  
 instability are a result of a spinal tumor caused by lymphosarcoma, and I 
 believe that yesterday's dramatic neurological symptoms were simply a 
 progression from what had been going on all weekend, exacerbated by the 
 stressful hospitalization  long car rides- he doesn't travel well either.  
 Grrr doesn't do anything easily except look handsome  growl.  The cortisol 
 shot was administered as an effort at pain management, to see if it helped 
 him get around easier.  Just got him home and he's looking OK- a bit better 
 than yesterday, and he sure seems happy to be home.   We have a very long 
 term relationship with this doctor, and do trust him- obviously, mistakes can 
 be made, but I am comfortable with the treatment Grrr has been given and the 
 plans we have discussed for his future. I am, as has been suggested, throwing 
 out the calender- my cat seems happy, if a bit awkward physically, and that 
 makes me happy!  Amy
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2009-03-24 Thread dlgegg
if exposing dry to the air caused a loss of vitamin D, what about adding fish 
oil to the food to counter the loss of D and then add a vitamin supplement for 
the selenium.  dorlis
 Rosenfeldt wrote: 
 Wow, Laurie, I had never heard of that So I'm guessing that dry food
 should be kept, say, in its bag with the top rolled so there's no extra
 air?  Wacky!
 
 Diane R. 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Laurieskatz
 Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 2:38 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hello- new to the list
 
 Coco lost weight, couldn't jump up, her tongue would come out of her
 mouth
 and her legs weren't working right. Not FeLV+but she was diagnosed with
 myonecrosis. A change in food (from dry to canned) reversed her issues.
 The
 vets tested for all the usual causes and she was negative so they
 assumed
 nutritional. I would dump all the dry (Wellness) into a tupperware
 container. Vets said that exposed the food to too much air which
 depleted
 the food of vitamin D and Selenium and caused muscle death. For what
 it's
 worth
 Laurie
 
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 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amy Ackerman
 Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 2:17 PM
 To: Felv talk
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hello- new to the list
 
 
 I appreciate everyones concern  thoughts.  Looking back at what I've
 written so far, I can see that I haven't been very clear about what
 was/is
 going on with Grrr.  I've been a little emotional these last few days!
 I
 took him in monday morning because he had been having a very difficult
 time
 doing normal cat stuff- jumping, running, etc- saturday night  sunday,
 and
 it was getting progressively worse as hours passed.  I had consulted
 with my
 vet on Sunday about possibly taking him to emergency, but because he was
 not
 displaying any very dramatic symptoms of stroke, seizure, obvious
 distress
 or pain, we decided to save him the trip and bring him in first thing
 Monday
 morning.  He had been losing weight, and it seemed likely that his
 weakness
 was a symptom of whatever was causing the weight loss- hence the blood
 tests
 that led to the leukemia diagnosis.  The vet believes it likely that the
 weakness  instability are a result of a spinal tumor caused by
 lymphosarcoma, and I believe that yesterday's dramatic neurological
 symptoms
 were simply a progression from what had been going on all weekend,
 exacerbated by the stressful hospitalization  long car rides- he
 doesn't
 travel well either.  Grrr doesn't do anything easily except look
 handsome 
 growl.  The cortisol shot was administered as an effort at pain
 management,
 to see if it helped him get around easier.  Just got him home and he's
 looking OK- a bit better than yesterday, and he sure seems happy to be
 home.
 We have a very long term relationship with this doctor, and do trust
 him-
 obviously, mistakes can be made, but I am comfortable with the treatment
 Grrr has been given and the plans we have discussed for his future. I
 am, as
 has been suggested, throwing out the calender- my cat seems happy, if a
 bit
 awkward physically, and that makes me happy!  Amy
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Re: [Felvtalk] Hello- new to the list

2009-03-24 Thread dlgegg
bird droppings could cause that?  that scares me as i feed the wild birds on my 
deck and that is where my babies love to lie in the sun and snooze.  may have 
to change where i feed the birds and clean deck up with Clorox.  dorlis
 Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com wrote: 
 Yes. They told me that moisture or oxygen will deplete dry food of those
 vitamins. Another person took their cat in when I took Coco (we went over to
 Ames teaching school). Her cat could not walk at all and did not survive.
 It's a rare condition and can also be caused by toxins or the disease passed
 via bird droppings (I forget the name right now...toxoplasmosis, maybe).
 Anyway, it was frightening and I am so grateful to have my kitty. They had
 to take biopsies of her muscles and send them to Texas to be analyzed.
 Laurie
 
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 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Rosenfeldt, Diane
 Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 2:49 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hello- new to the list
 
 Wow, Laurie, I had never heard of that So I'm guessing that dry food
 should be kept, say, in its bag with the top rolled so there's no extra
 air?  Wacky!
 
 Diane R. 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Laurieskatz
 Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 2:38 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hello- new to the list
 
 Coco lost weight, couldn't jump up, her tongue would come out of her
 mouth
 and her legs weren't working right. Not FeLV+but she was diagnosed with
 myonecrosis. A change in food (from dry to canned) reversed her issues.
 The
 vets tested for all the usual causes and she was negative so they
 assumed
 nutritional. I would dump all the dry (Wellness) into a tupperware
 container. Vets said that exposed the food to too much air which
 depleted
 the food of vitamin D and Selenium and caused muscle death. For what
 it's
 worth
 Laurie
 
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 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amy Ackerman
 Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 2:17 PM
 To: Felv talk
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hello- new to the list
 
 
 I appreciate everyones concern  thoughts.  Looking back at what I've
 written so far, I can see that I haven't been very clear about what
 was/is
 going on with Grrr.  I've been a little emotional these last few days!
 I
 took him in monday morning because he had been having a very difficult
 time
 doing normal cat stuff- jumping, running, etc- saturday night  sunday,
 and
 it was getting progressively worse as hours passed.  I had consulted
 with my
 vet on Sunday about possibly taking him to emergency, but because he was
 not
 displaying any very dramatic symptoms of stroke, seizure, obvious
 distress
 or pain, we decided to save him the trip and bring him in first thing
 Monday
 morning.  He had been losing weight, and it seemed likely that his
 weakness
 was a symptom of whatever was causing the weight loss- hence the blood
 tests
 that led to the leukemia diagnosis.  The vet believes it likely that the
 weakness  instability are a result of a spinal tumor caused by
 lymphosarcoma, and I believe that yesterday's dramatic neurological
 symptoms
 were simply a progression from what had been going on all weekend,
 exacerbated by the stressful hospitalization  long car rides- he
 doesn't
 travel well either.  Grrr doesn't do anything easily except look
 handsome 
 growl.  The cortisol shot was administered as an effort at pain
 management,
 to see if it helped him get around easier.  Just got him home and he's
 looking OK- a bit better than yesterday, and he sure seems happy to be
 home.
 We have a very long term relationship with this doctor, and do trust
 him-
 obviously, mistakes can be made, but I am comfortable with the treatment
 Grrr has been given and the plans we have discussed for his future. I
 am, as
 has been suggested, throwing out the calender- my cat seems happy, if a
 bit
 awkward physically, and that makes me happy!  Amy
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Re: [Felvtalk] Hello- new to the list

2009-03-24 Thread Diane Rosenfeldt

As sort of a parenthetical to this discussion, which I confess I've only
read a little of, recently my housemate decided to try putting our Luc's
thyroid pills (which we've been shoving down his throat for years) into a
pinch of catnip in the palm of her hand.  I never thought this would work,
but he's been doing this for about a month now.  Even if he snarfs up all
the nip, he'll still take one extra snarf to get the pill in.  Goofy boy, I
love him dearly.

Diane R. 

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
dlg...@windstream.net
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 11:34 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Cc: Amy Ackerman
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hello- new to the list

Grrr sounds so much like my Snuggles.  is beautiful to look at, loves to be
petted (for a while at least, not too much) but don't try to brush me or
give me pills.  i will slash you to bits, bite and swat you with my tail.
don't know if it has anything to do with it, he was a Maine Coon.  he looked
like it so took to a breeder and she confirmed it.  mostly, as long as
things went his way, he was happy.  sometimes a pain to deal with, but i
would not have missed my days with him for anything.  he is the one who took
care of my father.  the day father became ill, Snuggles went into his room
and would not leave.  if he called me in the middle of the night, Snug would
come and get me, then jump on father's bed.  he stayed with him for a year
and the day father passed, he left his room and never went back there.  he
passed away 1 week after father.  dorlis
 Amy Ackerman swa...@hotmail.com wrote: 
 
 I appreciate everyones concern  thoughts.  Looking back at what I've
written so far, I can see that I haven't been very clear about what was/is
going on with Grrr.  I've been a little emotional these last few days!  I
took him in monday morning because he had been having a very difficult time
doing normal cat stuff- jumping, running, etc- saturday night  sunday, and
it was getting progressively worse as hours passed.  I had consulted with my
vet on Sunday about possibly taking him to emergency, but because he was not
displaying any very dramatic symptoms of stroke, seizure, obvious distress
or pain, we decided to save him the trip and bring him in first thing Monday
morning.  He had been losing weight, and it seemed likely that his weakness
was a symptom of whatever was causing the weight loss- hence the blood tests
that led to the leukemia diagnosis.  The vet believes it likely that the
weakness  instability are a result of a spinal tumor caused by
lymphosarcoma, and I believe that yesterday's dramatic neurological symptoms
were simply a progression from what had been going on all weekend,
exacerbated by the stressful hospitalization  long car rides- he doesn't
travel well either.  Grrr doesn't do anything easily except look handsome 
growl.  The cortisol shot was administered as an effort at pain management,
to see if it helped him get around easier.  Just got him home and he's
looking OK- a bit better than yesterday, and he sure seems happy to be home.
We have a very long term relationship with this doctor, and do trust him-
obviously, mistakes can be made, but I am comfortable with the treatment
Grrr has been given and the plans we have discussed for his future. I am, as
has been suggested, throwing out the calender- my cat seems happy, if a bit
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Re: [Felvtalk] Hello- new to the list

2009-03-24 Thread Chris
Catnip--not bad!  Haven't tried that one.  Whenever I think I've found
something that works though (and feel very proud of myself for finding the
perfect pill pusher-downer), they always manage to show me who is the real
boss by suddenly deciding that they know I'm putting a pill in and stop
taking whatever it was that worked.  I've used American cheese (makes a nice
little ball), liverwurst (ditto), ham (a little harder to roll up), pill
pockets (works for a while), wet food (in a ball), two treats squished
together like a sandwich with a pill in the middle, and on and on.  Of
course, groveling and begging and pleading sometimes works though I think
they finally take the pill just to shut me up.  And then of course, there
are all those pills I've found over the years, just lying around without a
mark on them.  I KNOW they're not the pills I was so proud of myself
about--I KNOW they sneak to the pill vial at night to take out some pills to
scatter around just to make me crazy! LOL

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Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 1:03 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hello- new to the list


As sort of a parenthetical to this discussion, which I confess I've only
read a little of, recently my housemate decided to try putting our Luc's
thyroid pills (which we've been shoving down his throat for years) into a
pinch of catnip in the palm of her hand.  I never thought this would work,
but he's been doing this for about a month now.  Even if he snarfs up all
the nip, he'll still take one extra snarf to get the pill in.  Goofy boy, I
love him dearly.

Diane R. 

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
dlg...@windstream.net
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 11:34 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Cc: Amy Ackerman
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hello- new to the list

Grrr sounds so much like my Snuggles.  is beautiful to look at, loves to be
petted (for a while at least, not too much) but don't try to brush me or
give me pills.  i will slash you to bits, bite and swat you with my tail.
don't know if it has anything to do with it, he was a Maine Coon.  he looked
like it so took to a breeder and she confirmed it.  mostly, as long as
things went his way, he was happy.  sometimes a pain to deal with, but i
would not have missed my days with him for anything.  he is the one who took
care of my father.  the day father became ill, Snuggles went into his room
and would not leave.  if he called me in the middle of the night, Snug would
come and get me, then jump on father's bed.  he stayed with him for a year
and the day father passed, he left his room and never went back there.  he
passed away 1 week after father.  dorlis
 Amy Ackerman swa...@hotmail.com wrote: 
 
 I appreciate everyones concern  thoughts.  Looking back at what I've
written so far, I can see that I haven't been very clear about what was/is
going on with Grrr.  I've been a little emotional these last few days!  I
took him in monday morning because he had been having a very difficult time
doing normal cat stuff- jumping, running, etc- saturday night  sunday, and
it was getting progressively worse as hours passed.  I had consulted with my
vet on Sunday about possibly taking him to emergency, but because he was not
displaying any very dramatic symptoms of stroke, seizure, obvious distress
or pain, we decided to save him the trip and bring him in first thing Monday
morning.  He had been losing weight, and it seemed likely that his weakness
was a symptom of whatever was causing the weight loss- hence the blood tests
that led to the leukemia diagnosis.  The vet believes it likely that the
weakness  instability are a result of a spinal tumor caused by
lymphosarcoma, and I believe that yesterday's dramatic neurological symptoms
were simply a progression from what had been going on all weekend,
exacerbated by the stressful hospitalization  long car rides- he doesn't
travel well either.  Grrr doesn't do anything easily except look handsome 
growl.  The cortisol shot was administered as an effort at pain management,
to see if it helped him get around easier.  Just got him home and he's
looking OK- a bit better than yesterday, and he sure seems happy to be home.
We have a very long term relationship with this doctor, and do trust him-
obviously, mistakes can be made, but I am comfortable with the treatment
Grrr has been given and the plans we have discussed for his future. I am, as
has been suggested, throwing out the calender- my cat seems happy, if a bit
awkward physically, and that makes me happy!  Amy

[Felvtalk] R: Hello- new to the list.

2009-03-04 Thread Stefania

Hello,
I also had my cat, Trudi, diagnosed with FeLV only recently, and she is almost 
9. She was not tested as kitten, but she was alway vaccinated.

I too don't know if she were positive as a kitten or what.

Stefania

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2009-03-04 Thread Amy Ackerman

Hello again all-Just an update-  I took my other two in yesterday morning to be 
tested  vaccinated and picked Grrr up at the same time.  He seemed to be doing 
OK, and my vet was optimistic that the cortisol would help him be comfortable 
for a while.  I brought all three home, got the other two set up in their 30 
day kitty condo, and let Grrr out of his carrier.  He almost immediately began 
displaying some pretty disturbing neurological issues- his face was so tight  
contorted that for a moment I wondered if they had given me the wrong cat.  I 
dragged him back out to the vet  they have been observing him for the last 24 
h.  Further tests offer no answers as to the origin of the rapid neurological 
changes.  He hasn't improved dramatically, but he seems comfortable  as cheery 
as he gets today, so I'm going to get him.  As long as he's comfortable and 
happy, we're certainly willing to modify his lifestyle to make things a little 
easier on him.  We're just thrilled that he is coming home!Amy
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2009-03-04 Thread Gloria B. Lane
Hi Amy, I'm so sorry to hear about Grrr.  I was just wondering about  
the cortisol shot -  what's the rationale behind that?


Thanks and best of luck,

Gloria


On Mar 2, 2009, at 10:08 PM, Amy Ackerman wrote:



Thanks for the welcome  kind words, Gary  Laurie.   My vet  
believes Grrr has lymphosarcoma, but for the time being the  
diagnostic tools recommended to locate the suspected spinal tumor  
are simply out of reach financially.  Times are lean for everyone, I  
know; this was a very difficult day, deciding courses of treatment  
for this very cool, loved cat based on our credit lines.  He's  
having a rough time getting around.  Grrr is also, as you may be  
able to gather from his name, not a terribly good patient.  That may  
be the understatement of the month.  He is slightly anemic as well,  
but his... attitude doesn't make him a terribly good candidate for,  
say, daily pills, etc.  He's getting a cortisol shot to see if it  
improves his mobility/comfort  an injectable, long term antibiotic  
(I need to get the drug name) to counter the immune suppressive  
effects of the cortisol.  He eats like a horse, so we're going to  
try some of the suggested dietary modifications as well.  Any one  
with suggestions for minimally invasive treatments (minimally  
invasive by this cat's standards is, say, tossing a tasty tidbit  
gently from across the room, careful not to let it land too close),  
please share as I continue to dredge through the archives.  My other  
two are keenly looking around for Grrr tonight- should be a fun car  
ride home tomorrow with all three, plus the mastiff going along to  
get her rabies vax.  I'll check back in tomorrow- good night, all,  
and thanks again for the support!


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Re: [Felvtalk] Hello- new to the list.

2009-03-04 Thread Laurieskatz
18 months ago I brought Winston (FeLV-) home from the vet after a dental
cleaning. He could not use his back legs correctly. He acted like he was in
pain when he would try to use his legs. I took him to a specialist and she
suspected he had been injured (back twisted) while under anesthesia.
Fortunately the nerves recovered and he was fine. Was Grrr anesthetized for
anything while at the vet? This does not sound right to me. Wonder about a
second opinion.
Laurie

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To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hello- new to the list.


Hello again all-Just an update-  I took my other two in yesterday morning to
be tested  vaccinated and picked Grrr up at the same time.  He seemed to be
doing OK, and my vet was optimistic that the cortisol would help him be
comfortable for a while.  I brought all three home, got the other two set up
in their 30 day kitty condo, and let Grrr out of his carrier.  He almost
immediately began displaying some pretty disturbing neurological issues- his
face was so tight  contorted that for a moment I wondered if they had given
me the wrong cat.  I dragged him back out to the vet  they have been
observing him for the last 24 h.  Further tests offer no answers as to the
origin of the rapid neurological changes.  He hasn't improved dramatically,
but he seems comfortable  as cheery as he gets today, so I'm going to get
him.  As long as he's comfortable and happy, we're certainly willing to
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2009-03-04 Thread Laurieskatz
I totally missed the injection info. Have you researched cortisol? Wonder if
they hit a nerve when they vaccinated him. Did they give the injection in
his scruff? I strongly suspect something happened at the vet's officeI
do not mean to alarm you as he may very well recover and be fine but I would
wonder about that vet. 
L

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Hello again all-Just an update-  I took my other two in yesterday morning to
be tested  vaccinated and picked Grrr up at the same time.  He seemed to be
doing OK, and my vet was optimistic that the cortisol would help him be
comfortable for a while.  I brought all three home, got the other two set up
in their 30 day kitty condo, and let Grrr out of his carrier.  He almost
immediately began displaying some pretty disturbing neurological issues- his
face was so tight  contorted that for a moment I wondered if they had given
me the wrong cat.  I dragged him back out to the vet  they have been
observing him for the last 24 h.  Further tests offer no answers as to the
origin of the rapid neurological changes.  He hasn't improved dramatically,
but he seems comfortable  as cheery as he gets today, so I'm going to get
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Re: [Felvtalk] Hello- new to the list.

2009-03-04 Thread Gloria B. Lane
I've never heard of giving cortisol shots, just cortisone.  I've read  
that too much cortisol in the system is not a good thing, but don't  
know much about it, just wondering.  Below is something I found when I  
did a Yahoo search for cortisol shot feline (at cats.lovetoknow.com):


Gloria

My four-year-old female cat Dottie has a hormonal allergy. That's all  
the vet told me except that she would need a monthly shot for the rest  
of her life. She is itchy all over and gets many scabs and has hair  
loss. It looks a lot like scabies.
Are there any natural remedies to help her? She's quite stressed most  
of the time, very jumpy. I cannot afford the monthly vet trip for a  
shot. The poor thing is miserable but we love each other and I want to  
keep her. Please help if you can.

Thanks,
Jill
Expert Reply
Hi Jill,
So sorry to hear about Dottie's hair loss. Since your vet didn't give  
you a lot of information, let me give it a try.
Hormones are regulated by a chemical commonly referred to as Cortisol.  
As cats age, their bodies naturally begin to produce less hormones.  
When levels are low enough, the body tries to boost production of the  
hormones, but then production of Cortisol is lowered as the body  
redirects its energy. This is when the trouble begins.
The shots your vet prescribed are necessary to help your cat's  
hormonal system remain in balance and able to fight off immune  
reactions that produce the typical allergy symptoms.

There are a few things you can do to support the Corticosteroid therapy.
• Fatty acid supplementation may help your cat's skin irritation.
	• Try feeding your cat a diet that is specifically formulated for  
pets with allergies.
	• Try to avoid exposing your cat to any of its known allergens. For  
this, you'd have to ask your vet what your cat tested allergic to.
	• Make every effort to lessen the stress in her environment. Stress  
further inhibits her body's ability to deal with the allergens.
I'm sorry I couldn't give you better news. There doesn't seem to be a  
way to cure severe allergies. All we can do is try to manage them to  
make our cats as comfortable as possible.

Thanks for your question.
Kelly
===




On Mar 4, 2009, at 9:32 AM, Laurieskatz wrote:

I totally missed the injection info. Have you researched cortisol?  
Wonder if
they hit a nerve when they vaccinated him. Did they give the  
injection in
his scruff? I strongly suspect something happened at the vet's  
officeI
do not mean to alarm you as he may very well recover and be fine but  
I would

wonder about that vet.
L

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To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
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Hello again all-Just an update-  I took my other two in yesterday  
morning to
be tested  vaccinated and picked Grrr up at the same time.  He  
seemed to be
doing OK, and my vet was optimistic that the cortisol would help him  
be
comfortable for a while.  I brought all three home, got the other  
two set up
in their 30 day kitty condo, and let Grrr out of his carrier.  He  
almost
immediately began displaying some pretty disturbing neurological  
issues- his
face was so tight  contorted that for a moment I wondered if they  
had given

me the wrong cat.  I dragged him back out to the vet  they have been
observing him for the last 24 h.  Further tests offer no answers as  
to the
origin of the rapid neurological changes.  He hasn't improved  
dramatically,
but he seems comfortable  as cheery as he gets today, so I'm going  
to get
him.  As long as he's comfortable and happy, we're certainly willing  
to
modify his lifestyle to make things a little easier on him.  We're  
just

thrilled that he is coming home!Amy
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2009-03-04 Thread Amy Ackerman

I appreciate everyones concern  thoughts.  Looking back at what I've written 
so far, I can see that I haven't been very clear about what was/is going on 
with Grrr.  I've been a little emotional these last few days!  I took him in 
monday morning because he had been having a very difficult time doing normal 
cat stuff- jumping, running, etc- saturday night  sunday, and it was getting 
progressively worse as hours passed.  I had consulted with my vet on Sunday 
about possibly taking him to emergency, but because he was not displaying any 
very dramatic symptoms of stroke, seizure, obvious distress or pain, we decided 
to save him the trip and bring him in first thing Monday morning.  He had been 
losing weight, and it seemed likely that his weakness was a symptom of whatever 
was causing the weight loss- hence the blood tests that led to the leukemia 
diagnosis.  The vet believes it likely that the weakness  instability are a 
result of a spinal tumor caused by lymphosarcoma, and I believe that 
yesterday's dramatic neurological symptoms were simply a progression from what 
had been going on all weekend, exacerbated by the stressful hospitalization  
long car rides- he doesn't travel well either.  Grrr doesn't do anything easily 
except look handsome  growl.  The cortisol shot was administered as an effort 
at pain management, to see if it helped him get around easier.  Just got him 
home and he's looking OK- a bit better than yesterday, and he sure seems happy 
to be home.   We have a very long term relationship with this doctor, and do 
trust him- obviously, mistakes can be made, but I am comfortable with the 
treatment Grrr has been given and the plans we have discussed for his future. I 
am, as has been suggested, throwing out the calender- my cat seems happy, if a 
bit awkward physically, and that makes me happy!  Amy
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2009-03-04 Thread Laurieskatz
Coco lost weight, couldn't jump up, her tongue would come out of her mouth
and her legs weren't working right. Not FeLV+but she was diagnosed with
myonecrosis. A change in food (from dry to canned) reversed her issues. The
vets tested for all the usual causes and she was negative so they assumed
nutritional. I would dump all the dry (Wellness) into a tupperware
container. Vets said that exposed the food to too much air which depleted
the food of vitamin D and Selenium and caused muscle death. For what it's
worth
Laurie

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amy Ackerman
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 2:17 PM
To: Felv talk
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hello- new to the list


I appreciate everyones concern  thoughts.  Looking back at what I've
written so far, I can see that I haven't been very clear about what was/is
going on with Grrr.  I've been a little emotional these last few days!  I
took him in monday morning because he had been having a very difficult time
doing normal cat stuff- jumping, running, etc- saturday night  sunday, and
it was getting progressively worse as hours passed.  I had consulted with my
vet on Sunday about possibly taking him to emergency, but because he was not
displaying any very dramatic symptoms of stroke, seizure, obvious distress
or pain, we decided to save him the trip and bring him in first thing Monday
morning.  He had been losing weight, and it seemed likely that his weakness
was a symptom of whatever was causing the weight loss- hence the blood tests
that led to the leukemia diagnosis.  The vet believes it likely that the
weakness  instability are a result of a spinal tumor caused by
lymphosarcoma, and I believe that yesterday's dramatic neurological symptoms
were simply a progression from what had been going on all weekend,
exacerbated by the stressful hospitalization  long car rides- he doesn't
travel well either.  Grrr doesn't do anything easily except look handsome 
growl.  The cortisol shot was administered as an effort at pain management,
to see if it helped him get around easier.  Just got him home and he's
looking OK- a bit better than yesterday, and he sure seems happy to be home.
We have a very long term relationship with this doctor, and do trust him-
obviously, mistakes can be made, but I am comfortable with the treatment
Grrr has been given and the plans we have discussed for his future. I am, as
has been suggested, throwing out the calender- my cat seems happy, if a bit
awkward physically, and that makes me happy!  Amy
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2009-03-04 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
Wow, Laurie, I had never heard of that So I'm guessing that dry food
should be kept, say, in its bag with the top rolled so there's no extra
air?  Wacky!

Diane R. 

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Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 2:38 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hello- new to the list

Coco lost weight, couldn't jump up, her tongue would come out of her
mouth
and her legs weren't working right. Not FeLV+but she was diagnosed with
myonecrosis. A change in food (from dry to canned) reversed her issues.
The
vets tested for all the usual causes and she was negative so they
assumed
nutritional. I would dump all the dry (Wellness) into a tupperware
container. Vets said that exposed the food to too much air which
depleted
the food of vitamin D and Selenium and caused muscle death. For what
it's
worth
Laurie

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amy Ackerman
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 2:17 PM
To: Felv talk
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hello- new to the list


I appreciate everyones concern  thoughts.  Looking back at what I've
written so far, I can see that I haven't been very clear about what
was/is
going on with Grrr.  I've been a little emotional these last few days!
I
took him in monday morning because he had been having a very difficult
time
doing normal cat stuff- jumping, running, etc- saturday night  sunday,
and
it was getting progressively worse as hours passed.  I had consulted
with my
vet on Sunday about possibly taking him to emergency, but because he was
not
displaying any very dramatic symptoms of stroke, seizure, obvious
distress
or pain, we decided to save him the trip and bring him in first thing
Monday
morning.  He had been losing weight, and it seemed likely that his
weakness
was a symptom of whatever was causing the weight loss- hence the blood
tests
that led to the leukemia diagnosis.  The vet believes it likely that the
weakness  instability are a result of a spinal tumor caused by
lymphosarcoma, and I believe that yesterday's dramatic neurological
symptoms
were simply a progression from what had been going on all weekend,
exacerbated by the stressful hospitalization  long car rides- he
doesn't
travel well either.  Grrr doesn't do anything easily except look
handsome 
growl.  The cortisol shot was administered as an effort at pain
management,
to see if it helped him get around easier.  Just got him home and he's
looking OK- a bit better than yesterday, and he sure seems happy to be
home.
We have a very long term relationship with this doctor, and do trust
him-
obviously, mistakes can be made, but I am comfortable with the treatment
Grrr has been given and the plans we have discussed for his future. I
am, as
has been suggested, throwing out the calender- my cat seems happy, if a
bit
awkward physically, and that makes me happy!  Amy
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Re: [Felvtalk] Hello- new to the list

2009-03-04 Thread Laurieskatz
Yes. They told me that moisture or oxygen will deplete dry food of those
vitamins. Another person took their cat in when I took Coco (we went over to
Ames teaching school). Her cat could not walk at all and did not survive.
It's a rare condition and can also be caused by toxins or the disease passed
via bird droppings (I forget the name right now...toxoplasmosis, maybe).
Anyway, it was frightening and I am so grateful to have my kitty. They had
to take biopsies of her muscles and send them to Texas to be analyzed.
Laurie

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Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 2:49 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hello- new to the list

Wow, Laurie, I had never heard of that So I'm guessing that dry food
should be kept, say, in its bag with the top rolled so there's no extra
air?  Wacky!

Diane R. 

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Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 2:38 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hello- new to the list

Coco lost weight, couldn't jump up, her tongue would come out of her
mouth
and her legs weren't working right. Not FeLV+but she was diagnosed with
myonecrosis. A change in food (from dry to canned) reversed her issues.
The
vets tested for all the usual causes and she was negative so they
assumed
nutritional. I would dump all the dry (Wellness) into a tupperware
container. Vets said that exposed the food to too much air which
depleted
the food of vitamin D and Selenium and caused muscle death. For what
it's
worth
Laurie

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Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 2:17 PM
To: Felv talk
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hello- new to the list


I appreciate everyones concern  thoughts.  Looking back at what I've
written so far, I can see that I haven't been very clear about what
was/is
going on with Grrr.  I've been a little emotional these last few days!
I
took him in monday morning because he had been having a very difficult
time
doing normal cat stuff- jumping, running, etc- saturday night  sunday,
and
it was getting progressively worse as hours passed.  I had consulted
with my
vet on Sunday about possibly taking him to emergency, but because he was
not
displaying any very dramatic symptoms of stroke, seizure, obvious
distress
or pain, we decided to save him the trip and bring him in first thing
Monday
morning.  He had been losing weight, and it seemed likely that his
weakness
was a symptom of whatever was causing the weight loss- hence the blood
tests
that led to the leukemia diagnosis.  The vet believes it likely that the
weakness  instability are a result of a spinal tumor caused by
lymphosarcoma, and I believe that yesterday's dramatic neurological
symptoms
were simply a progression from what had been going on all weekend,
exacerbated by the stressful hospitalization  long car rides- he
doesn't
travel well either.  Grrr doesn't do anything easily except look
handsome 
growl.  The cortisol shot was administered as an effort at pain
management,
to see if it helped him get around easier.  Just got him home and he's
looking OK- a bit better than yesterday, and he sure seems happy to be
home.
We have a very long term relationship with this doctor, and do trust
him-
obviously, mistakes can be made, but I am comfortable with the treatment
Grrr has been given and the plans we have discussed for his future. I
am, as
has been suggested, throwing out the calender- my cat seems happy, if a
bit
awkward physically, and that makes me happy!  Amy
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Re: [Felvtalk] Hello- new to the list

2009-03-04 Thread Amy Ackerman

My last post today, I promise!  Thanks for that info, Laurie.  I'm researching 
that now- would it seem likely that one cat would contract myonecrosis  not 
others who were eating the same food?  That's a new one on me as well, never 
heard of it.  All three get canned wellness 2-3x a week, dry wellness the other 
days, although we've been planning to switch brands  couldn't hurt to 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Hello- new to the list

2009-03-04 Thread Laurieskatz
I had 6 cats and only Coco got myonecrosis. At least 2 others also ate the
dry Wellness


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My last post today, I promise!  Thanks for that info, Laurie.  I'm
researching that now- would it seem likely that one cat would contract
myonecrosis  not others who were eating the same food?  That's a new one on
me as well, never heard of it.  All three get canned wellness 2-3x a week,
dry wellness the other days, although we've been planning to switch
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2009-03-03 Thread Sue Frank Koren
Hi Amy, I am so sorry you are going through this.  It is hard to want to care 
for a beloved kitty when they want no part of it.  My sweet gentle Tucker used 
to go absolutely ballistic whenever I tried to give him a pill. Sometimes I 
think it is kinder to choose the least threatening or invasive ways to help a 
sick kitty.  Some would much rather be gently let go in their own time with 
dignity then to have procedures forced upon them that might lengthen their 
lives but would make them extremely unhappy.  Your best choice may be feeding 
him the highest quality food you can find. (I like Wellness Core canned food.)  
And making sure there is little or no stress in his life.  Best wishes for as 
much quality time as possible with Grrr.
You picked such a great name for a feisty cat! 
Sue
 
 Amy Ackerman swa...@hotmail.com wrote: 
 
  Thanks for the welcome  kind words, Gary  Laurie.   My vet 
 believes Grrr has lymphosarcoma, but for the time being the diagnostic tools 
 recommended to locate the suspected spinal tumor are simply out of reach 
 financially.  Times are lean for everyone, I know; this was a very difficult 
 day, deciding courses of treatment for this very cool, loved cat based on our 
 credit lines.  He's having a rough time getting around.  Grrr is also, as you 
 may be able to gather from his name, not a terribly good patient.  That may 
 be the understatement of the month.  He is slightly anemic as well, but 
 his... attitude doesn't make him a terribly good candidate for, say, daily 
 pills, etc.  He's getting a cortisol shot to see if it improves his 
 mobility/comfort  an injectable, long term antibiotic (I need to get the 
 drug name) to counter the immune suppressive effects of the cortisol.  He 
 eats like a horse, so we're going to try some of the suggested dietary 
 modifications as well.  Any one with suggestions for minimally invasive 
 treatments (minimally invasive by this cat's standards is, say, tossing a 
 tasty tidbit gently from across the room, careful not to let it land too 
 close), please share as I continue to dredge through the archives.  My other 
 two are keenly looking around for Grrr tonight- should be a fun car ride home 
 tomorrow with all three, plus the mastiff going along to get her rabies vax.  
 I'll check back in tomorrow- good night, all, and thanks again for the 
 support! 
  
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Re: [Felvtalk] hello- new to the list.

2009-03-03 Thread Cougar Clan
Make sure and give the others very good food too.  Chopping carrots  
and spinach in canned/frozen food is not hard and is not expensive  
either.  Dixie loved them.

On Mar 3, 2009, at 8:40 AM, Sue  Frank Koren wrote:

Hi Amy, I am so sorry you are going through this.  It is hard to  
want to care for a beloved kitty when they want no part of it.  My  
sweet gentle Tucker used to go absolutely ballistic whenever I tried  
to give him a pill. Sometimes I think it is kinder to choose the  
least threatening or invasive ways to help a sick kitty.  Some would  
much rather be gently let go in their own time with dignity then to  
have procedures forced upon them that might lengthen their lives but  
would make them extremely unhappy.  Your best choice may be feeding  
him the highest quality food you can find. (I like Wellness Core  
canned food.)  And making sure there is little or no stress in his  
life.  Best wishes for as much quality time as possible with Grrr.

You picked such a great name for a feisty cat!
Sue

 Amy Ackerman swa...@hotmail.com wrote:


Thanks for the welcome  kind words, Gary  Laurie.   My  
vet believes Grrr has lymphosarcoma, but for the time being the  
diagnostic tools recommended to locate the suspected spinal tumor  
are simply out of reach financially.  Times are lean for everyone,  
I know; this was a very difficult day, deciding courses of  
treatment for this very cool, loved cat based on our credit lines.   
He's having a rough time getting around.  Grrr is also, as you may  
be able to gather from his name, not a terribly good patient.  That  
may be the understatement of the month.  He is slightly anemic as  
well, but his... attitude doesn't make him a terribly good  
candidate for, say, daily pills, etc.  He's getting a cortisol shot  
to see if it improves his mobility/comfort  an injectable, long  
term antibiotic (I need to get the drug name) to counter the immune  
suppressive effects of the cortisol.  He eats like a horse, so  
we're going to try some of the suggested dietary modifications as  
well.  Any one with suggestions for minimally invasive treatments  
(minimally invasive by this cat's standards is, say, tossing a  
tasty tidbit gently from across the room, careful not to let it  
land too close), please share as I continue to dredge through the  
archives.  My other two are keenly looking around for Grrr tonight-  
should be a fun car ride home tomorrow with all three, plus the  
mastiff going along to get her rabies vax.  I'll check back in  
tomorrow- good night, all, and thanks again for the support!


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2009-03-03 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
Hi, Amy --

I'm sorry your baby isn't doing well, and I'm even sorrier that
diagnosis and treatment need to be ruled by, as you say, your credit
line.  We've all been at this point, I think.  Part of the nastiness of
this disease is that it's expensive all around, from the frequent vet
visits to the food and supplements, to the emotional expense.  Unlike
many of the kitties on this list, my FeLV kitty, Patches, turned up on
our doorstep one night and was gone within two months.  I don't know if
I could have afforded his care in the long run, and it absolutely bites
to have to think in those terms about a little soul in your care.

I have a cat that sounds a lot like Grrr -- thankfully he's been healthy
all his life, except, y'know, for the psychosis. ;-)  Best of luck with
whatever your vet comes up with to treat him.

Diane R.

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amy Ackerman
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 10:09 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] hello- new to the list.


 Thanks for the welcome  kind words, Gary  Laurie.   My vet
believes Grrr has lymphosarcoma, but for the time being the diagnostic
tools recommended to locate the suspected spinal tumor are simply out of
reach financially.  Times are lean for everyone, I know; this was a very
difficult day, deciding courses of treatment for this very cool, loved
cat based on our credit lines.  He's having a rough time getting around.
Grrr is also, as you may be able to gather from his name, not a terribly
good patient.  That may be the understatement of the month.  He is
slightly anemic as well, but his... attitude doesn't make him a terribly
good candidate for, say, daily pills, etc.  He's getting a cortisol shot
to see if it improves his mobility/comfort  an injectable, long term
antibiotic (I need to get the drug name) to counter the immune
suppressive effects of the cortisol.  He eats like a horse, so we're
going to try some of the suggested dietary modifications as well.  Any
one with suggestions for minimally invasive treatments (minimally
invasive by this cat's standards is, say, tossing a tasty tidbit gently
from across the room, careful not to let it land too close), please
share as I continue to dredge through the archives.  My other two are
keenly looking around for Grrr tonight- should be a fun car ride home
tomorrow with all three, plus the mastiff going along to get her rabies
vax.  I'll check back in tomorrow- good night, all, and thanks again for
the support! 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Hello- new to the list.

2009-03-03 Thread Sharyl
Laurie, I don't know for sure about the isolation requirements.  As a 
precaution, I kept my positives separate from my negatives until after the 
negative had received the 30 day booster.  That was a yr ago and all are still 
doing fine.

Amy, to build on what others have already written, enjoy each day with your big 
boy.  Over the last yr I have rescued 6 positive kittens from a dumpster 
colony.  I lost one in Jan. but the other 5 are doing great and are a joy to be 
with.  Having had CRF and heart kitties I learned to treasure each day I have 
with my beloved companions. 

We do what we can with the available resources to help these sweet companions 
have a full and meaningful life.  Love is first on the list of what these 
babies need.  

My oldest positives are 1 1/2 yrs old.  The babies are 8 months old.
Love and enjoy him.
Sharyl

--- On Mon, 3/2/09, Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com wrote:

 From: Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hello- new to the list.
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Monday, March 2, 2009, 10:18 PM
 Hi Amy. I didn't find out my boys were positive until
 they were in their
 teens. The vet said they were likely carriers
 and since Squeaky was never
 sick, the vet said his was likely in his bone marrow.
 Stripes was
 symptomatic on and off. Stripes lived several more years
 (to age 16) and
 Squeaky lived to age 22. 
 
 Isabella tested positive almost 2 years ago and is the
 picture of health. 
 
 Your boy could live a long life.
 
 Keep your other kitties separate for at least 24 hours
 after they are
 vaccinated (I can't recall if they should be separate
 until the booster in
 30 daysdoes anyone know?).
 
 Laurie
 
 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
 Amy Ackerman
 Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 8:19 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Hello- new to the list.
 
 
 Just wanted to say a quick hello to all the list members-
 i've just joined
 upon learning this afternoon that my much adored 10 year
 old cat is
 positive.  We're unsure as to how he contracted feluk
 as he was tested
 before we adopted him, and the two cats we have adopted
 since then were both
 tested... sigh.  We take the other two in tomorrow morning
 to be tested 
 hopefully vaccinated, and then we'll bring my big boy
 home.  Hopefully he
 will be with us for at least a few more months.  I've
 been scouring the
 archives and can't express enough gratitude- there is
 so much wonderful
 information  support here.  I look forward to being a
 part of this
 community.  Amy



  

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Re: [Felvtalk] Hello- new to the list.

2009-03-03 Thread Laurieskatz
Thanks Sharyl. I think that is what I would do, too (30 days).
LCS

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From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sharyl
Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 9:28 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hello- new to the list.

Laurie, I don't know for sure about the isolation requirements.  As a
precaution, I kept my positives separate from my negatives until after the
negative had received the 30 day booster.  That was a yr ago and all are
still doing fine.

Amy, to build on what others have already written, enjoy each day with your
big boy.  Over the last yr I have rescued 6 positive kittens from a dumpster
colony.  I lost one in Jan. but the other 5 are doing great and are a joy to
be with.  Having had CRF and heart kitties I learned to treasure each day I
have with my beloved companions. 

We do what we can with the available resources to help these sweet
companions have a full and meaningful life.  Love is first on the list of
what these babies need.  

My oldest positives are 1 1/2 yrs old.  The babies are 8 months old.
Love and enjoy him.
Sharyl

--- On Mon, 3/2/09, Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com wrote:

 From: Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hello- new to the list.
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Monday, March 2, 2009, 10:18 PM
 Hi Amy. I didn't find out my boys were positive until
 they were in their
 teens. The vet said they were likely carriers
 and since Squeaky was never
 sick, the vet said his was likely in his bone marrow.
 Stripes was
 symptomatic on and off. Stripes lived several more years
 (to age 16) and
 Squeaky lived to age 22. 
 
 Isabella tested positive almost 2 years ago and is the
 picture of health. 
 
 Your boy could live a long life.
 
 Keep your other kitties separate for at least 24 hours
 after they are
 vaccinated (I can't recall if they should be separate
 until the booster in
 30 daysdoes anyone know?).
 
 Laurie
 
 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
 Amy Ackerman
 Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 8:19 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Hello- new to the list.
 
 
 Just wanted to say a quick hello to all the list members-
 i've just joined
 upon learning this afternoon that my much adored 10 year
 old cat is
 positive.  We're unsure as to how he contracted feluk
 as he was tested
 before we adopted him, and the two cats we have adopted
 since then were both
 tested... sigh.  We take the other two in tomorrow morning
 to be tested 
 hopefully vaccinated, and then we'll bring my big boy
 home.  Hopefully he
 will be with us for at least a few more months.  I've
 been scouring the
 archives and can't express enough gratitude- there is
 so much wonderful
 information  support here.  I look forward to being a
 part of this
 community.  Amy



  

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[Felvtalk] Hello- new to the list.

2009-03-02 Thread Amy Ackerman

Just wanted to say a quick hello to all the list members- i've just joined upon 
learning this afternoon that my much adored 10 year old cat is positive.  We're 
unsure as to how he contracted feluk as he was tested before we adopted him, 
and the two cats we have adopted since then were both tested... sigh.  We take 
the other two in tomorrow morning to be tested  hopefully vaccinated, and then 
we'll bring my big boy home.  Hopefully he will be with us for at least a few 
more months.  I've been scouring the archives and can't express enough 
gratitude- there is so much wonderful information  support here.  I look 
forward to being a part of this community.  Amy
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Re: [Felvtalk] Hello- new to the list.

2009-03-02 Thread gary
Hi Amy,

Welcome to the list.

You say you hope you will have at least a few more months with him.  Besides
being FeLV positive, what is wrong with him?

Gary

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amy Ackerman
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 8:19 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Hello- new to the list.


Just wanted to say a quick hello to all the list members- i've just joined
upon learning this afternoon that my much adored 10 year old cat is
positive.  We're unsure as to how he contracted feluk as he was tested
before we adopted him, and the two cats we have adopted since then were both
tested... sigh.  We take the other two in tomorrow morning to be tested 
hopefully vaccinated, and then we'll bring my big boy home.  Hopefully he
will be with us for at least a few more months.  I've been scouring the
archives and can't express enough gratitude- there is so much wonderful
information  support here.  I look forward to being a part of this
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Re: [Felvtalk] Hello- new to the list.

2009-03-02 Thread Laurieskatz
Hi Amy. I didn't find out my boys were positive until they were in their
teens. The vet said they were likely carriers and since Squeaky was never
sick, the vet said his was likely in his bone marrow. Stripes was
symptomatic on and off. Stripes lived several more years (to age 16) and
Squeaky lived to age 22. 

Isabella tested positive almost 2 years ago and is the picture of health. 

Your boy could live a long life.

Keep your other kitties separate for at least 24 hours after they are
vaccinated (I can't recall if they should be separate until the booster in
30 daysdoes anyone know?).

Laurie

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amy Ackerman
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 8:19 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Hello- new to the list.


Just wanted to say a quick hello to all the list members- i've just joined
upon learning this afternoon that my much adored 10 year old cat is
positive.  We're unsure as to how he contracted feluk as he was tested
before we adopted him, and the two cats we have adopted since then were both
tested... sigh.  We take the other two in tomorrow morning to be tested 
hopefully vaccinated, and then we'll bring my big boy home.  Hopefully he
will be with us for at least a few more months.  I've been scouring the
archives and can't express enough gratitude- there is so much wonderful
information  support here.  I look forward to being a part of this
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Re: [Felvtalk] hello- new to the list.

2009-03-02 Thread Amy Ackerman

 Thanks for the welcome  kind words, Gary  Laurie.   My vet believes 
Grrr has lymphosarcoma, but for the time being the diagnostic tools recommended 
to locate the suspected spinal tumor are simply out of reach financially.  
Times are lean for everyone, I know; this was a very difficult day, deciding 
courses of treatment for this very cool, loved cat based on our credit lines.  
He's having a rough time getting around.  Grrr is also, as you may be able to 
gather from his name, not a terribly good patient.  That may be the 
understatement of the month.  He is slightly anemic as well, but his... 
attitude doesn't make him a terribly good candidate for, say, daily pills, etc. 
 He's getting a cortisol shot to see if it improves his mobility/comfort  an 
injectable, long term antibiotic (I need to get the drug name) to counter the 
immune suppressive effects of the cortisol.  He eats like a horse, so we're 
going to try some of the suggested dietary modifications as well.  Any one with 
suggestions for minimally invasive treatments (minimally invasive by this cat's 
standards is, say, tossing a tasty tidbit gently from across the room, careful 
not to let it land too close), please share as I continue to dredge through the 
archives.  My other two are keenly looking around for Grrr tonight- should be a 
fun car ride home tomorrow with all three, plus the mastiff going along to get 
her rabies vax.  I'll check back in tomorrow- good night, all, and thanks again 
for the support! 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Hello- new to the list.

2009-03-02 Thread Cougar Clan
Oh my.don't look at a few more months my friend.  Dixie lived  
three wonderful years.  She was full grown and with a totally unknown  
and not good history.  She had been a cared for cat at least to the  
point that she had been spayed, liked to be petted etc.  Some how she  
found herself homeless and wound up with the ferals my Mom puts food  
out for.  She was such a darling I decided to make her a farm cat and  
took her to my wonderful vets to be spayed (I didn't know she had  
been).  She tested positive, won my heart and has kept it firmly in  
her paws even though she left this world June 12, 2008.  She had  
holistic and regular vet care, the best food I could give her  
including Primal Raw which many advise against but on which she  
thrived, lots of chopped veggies high in vitamin C and iron,  
colostrum, and other supplements.  She was in wonderful health until  
just before she left this world.  The suddenness of the end  
was well, it was totally unexpected.  For a long time I  
thought she had beaten it.  The fine people on this list helped so much.


Please do not put limits on the time he will be with you.  If you do,  
you will live, if you can call it that, in dread, pain and grief.  He  
would not have that for you any more than Dixie would have wanted it  
for me.  We all leave this world.  We all leave from something.  None  
of us are guaranteed a second.  Do not exit like that.  You will  
deprive yourself of the wonderful love he gives you and the lessons he  
has to teach and you will deprive him of your unconditional love  
because, every time you look at him it will be with a dread you will  
both know.  The stress will make you both miserable and will harm your  
other cats' hearts too.  Do everything you can for all your cats and  
be very gentle with yourself.  None of this is your fault.  As much as  
you and I and all who love try to protect those we are devoted to, we  
can not protect them from everything.  We just can't. By the way,  
Dixie totally enjoyed her life but there are many on this list and  
many I know of who have lived much, much longer.  Throw away the  
calendar.  It has no place in the heart.



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Just wanted to say a quick hello to all the list members- i've just  
joined upon learning this afternoon that my much adored 10 year old  
cat is positive.  We're unsure as to how he contracted feluk as he  
was tested before we adopted him, and the two cats we have adopted  
since then were both tested... sigh.  We take the other two in  
tomorrow morning to be tested  hopefully vaccinated, and then we'll  
bring my big boy home.  Hopefully he will be with us for at least a  
few more months.  I've been scouring the archives and can't express  
enough gratitude- there is so much wonderful information  support  
here.  I look forward to being a part of this community.  Amy

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Re: [Felvtalk] hello- new to the list.

2009-03-02 Thread Chris
Amy
My Romeo was a stray who I fed a couple of years before bringing him inside.
I could do anything at all to him except pick him up or restrain him or give
him a pill.  He became ill very suddenly--had large mass in his chest cavity
and fluids in his lungs.  Treating him would have been more for me than for
him--it likely wouldn't have worked long term and though it might have given
him a bit more time, he would have been totally traumatized by it all.  I
made the choice to let him go and it was very tough.  But I knew from his
eyes that he wanted it to end before it got worse than it already had
gotten.  Best advice is from CougarClan--just throw away the calendar and
enjoy every day with what sounds like a spunky, wonderful kitty!

Christiane Biagi


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From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amy Ackerman
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 11:09 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] hello- new to the list.


 Thanks for the welcome  kind words, Gary  Laurie.   My vet
believes Grrr has lymphosarcoma, but for the time being the diagnostic tools
recommended to locate the suspected spinal tumor are simply out of reach
financially.  Times are lean for everyone, I know; this was a very difficult
day, deciding courses of treatment for this very cool, loved cat based on
our credit lines.  He's having a rough time getting around.  Grrr is also,
as you may be able to gather from his name, not a terribly good patient.
That may be the understatement of the month.  He is slightly anemic as well,
but his... attitude doesn't make him a terribly good candidate for, say,
daily pills, etc.  He's getting a cortisol shot to see if it improves his
mobility/comfort  an injectable, long term antibiotic (I need to get the
drug name) to counter the immune suppressive effects of the cortisol.  He
eats like a horse, so we're going to try some of the suggested dietary
modifications as well.  Any one with suggestions for minimally invasive
treatments (minimally invasive by this cat's standards is, say, tossing a
tasty tidbit gently from across the room, careful not to let it land too
close), please share as I continue to dredge through the archives.  My other
two are keenly looking around for Grrr tonight- should be a fun car ride
home tomorrow with all three, plus the mastiff going along to get her rabies
vax.  I'll check back in tomorrow- good night, all, and thanks again for the
support! 
 
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Re: New to the list

2007-12-21 Thread wendy
Hi Emily,

I hope you get this post soon.  No, pts is not your only option!  That is the 
good news.  More and more vets are learning that cats with FeLV can live for 
years.  There is even a cat the the Best Friends Animals Sanctuary who is FeLV+ 
and 22 years old!  I petted him myself last Feb.  So my first thought to you is 
you should find a vet that is willing to work to save Moses's life if this one 
isn't.  Secondly, eating is extremely important for cats because they develop 
feline hepatic lipidosis, a condition of the liver, very quickly, and it's 
treatable, but deadly if not treated quickly.  Did your vet tell you this?  If 
he's not eating, get a syringe and start assist-feeding him some baby food (Del 
Monte or Beecher Nut chicken is a good one); there is info. on the internet on 
how to assist feed if you need to.  Or get some Evo, which you can only get 
from the vet; it's very smooth when mixed with water and high calorie content.  
You have to do this.  It's
 probably the single most important thing you will do for him at this point.  
Get 1-2 syringes of food in him as often as you can, every 1-2 hours if 
possible.  There's a good chance it will jump start his appetite; we often see 
here that it does.  And give him water as well in the syringe, but be careful 
to have him tilted up so that it slides down his throat right and doesn't choke 
him.  If you have him at a 180 degree angle, that's too flat.  Is Moses also 
anemic?  Did he have a blood count done (RBC/PCV/HCT)?  If so, what was it?  
I'm assuming that's what the pred and doxy is for.  Make sure to keep him on 
the doxy for at least three weeks because that is what's used to treat 
hemobartanella, a blood parasite that is more common in cats and can cause the 
anemia, which is also deadly if not treated.  Hemobart is very hard to detect 
on a slide because it 'disappears'.  So vets often treat for this anyway, just 
in case.  Please get back to us with as
 much info. as possible on his condition and test results so we can best help 
you Emily.  I will check back here around 4ish central time to see if there's 
any other info you need and then later again tonight.  Prayers going out for 
Moses to make a quick turn around.   

:) 
Wendy
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Hi there 


My name is Emily and I have three cats, Moses (Felv +) Jeremiah and Samson 
(status yet unknown).


I just found out that Moses is + and he's quite sick. the doctor put him on 
prednesone and doxycline... 


He's not eating and he's quite thin.


The dr wants to put him to sleep. Is this really my only option? Also - if i 
bring him home to be with his brothers... will he infect them? Should i have 
them tested? 


I'm so sad. 


Any help would be greatly appreciated... 


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To Emily Re: New to the list

2007-12-21 Thread wendy
Correction: I meant A/D instead of Evo.  Thank you Laurie!  I saw your post and 
said OOPS!

Everyone here has given GREAT info. thus far!  The archives, as Caroline 
pointed out, are a wonderful source of info. and will save you time in 
searching.

:)
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Hi there 


My name is Emily and I have three cats, Moses (Felv +) Jeremiah and Samson 
(status yet unknown).


I just found out that Moses is + and he's quite sick. the doctor put him on 
prednesone and doxycline... 


He's not eating and he's quite thin.


The dr wants to put him to sleep. Is this really my only option? Also - if i 
bring him home to be with his brothers... will he infect them? Should i have 
them tested? 


I'm so sad. 


Any help would be greatly appreciated... 


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2007-12-20 Thread emilyumc
Hi there



My name is Emily and I have three cats, Moses (Felv +) Jeremiah and Samson 
(status yet unknown).




I just found out that Moses is + and he's quite sick. the doctor put him on 
prednesone and doxycline... 




He's not eating and he's quite thin.




The dr wants to put him to sleep. Is this really my only option? Also - if i 
bring him home to be with his brothers... will he infect them? Should i have 
them tested? 




I'm so sad. 




Any help would be greatly appreciated... 




THank you thank you thank you... 








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RE: New to the list

2007-12-20 Thread Caroline Kaufmann

Get Nutrical- either from your vet, or a lot of pet stores have it- just ask 
them for it.  It's a high calorie supplement for cats.  You need to be giving 
this to him.  If he likes it enough, he may just lick it off your fingers.  
Most cats do like the taste of it.  But to get the maximum amount into him, mix 
it into wet food really good.  Also, start feeding him kitten wet food- 
Wellness brand kitten is really really good.  Kitten food is richer, so it 
may stimulate his appetite more and he'll be very happy getting it!  Most 
important, kitten food is high calorie, whereas adult cat food is not.  He 
needs all the calories he can get right now.  
 
For a cat that is struggling weight-wise, the recommended amount of Nutrical is 
a tablespoon a day.  If you can get just 1 tablespoon in him by mixing into wet 
food and/or by him licking it directly off your fingers, that alone (even 
without him eating food) with stave off fatty liver disease- which can be 
fatal and is the most dangerous thing you face with a cat not 
eating/undernourished.
 
I have a non-felv undernourished 6 mth old kitten (looks 3-4 mths though) that 
I am nursing back to health- he gets a whole tablespoon of Nutrical added to 
1/2 a small can of Wellness kitten food at night.  He's improved markedly- the 
nutrical helps a lot.   
 
Others can address your other questions.  Best thing to do is scan the archives 
for subject lines and read those threads.  All you questions have been 
addressed in previous posts and you will find these helpful.
 
Caroline 


Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 10:27:23 -0600From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL 
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Hi Emily,
 
Your only option is NOT to put him to sleep.  
 
As far as the thinness goes, you can learn to syringe feed him.  Sometimes they 
pull through episodes of illness and sometimes not.
 
I would have the brothers tested - but if they're going to be infected they 
likely already have been, since they have been together so long.  Some people 
on this list mix + and -, and some don't.  After testing, if they are negative, 
I'd definitely get them vaccinated against FELV, though.  Have they ever been 
vaccinated against it before? 
There are lots of people here who know more about FELV than I do.  I just 
wanted you to know someone's out here listening, someone cares, and you aren't 
alone.
 
This is a great list, welcome.
On Dec 20, 2007 10:17 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi there 

My name is Emily and I have three cats, Moses (Felv +) Jeremiah and Samson 
(status yet unknown).

I just found out that Moses is + and he's quite sick. the doctor put him on 
prednesone and doxycline... 

He's not eating and he's quite thin.

The dr wants to put him to sleep. Is this really my only option? Also - if i 
bring him home to be with his brothers... will he infect them? Should i have 
them tested? 

I'm so sad. 

Any help would be greatly appreciated... 

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RE: New to the list

2007-12-20 Thread Christiane Biagi
Folks on this list much more knowledgable than me will help.  But, how old are 
they?  Have they always been together?  What does the vet say is wrong with 
Moses?  FELV itself is not what is making him sick—what he likely has is any 
one a number  of conditions that FELV cats are more prone to.  As for eating, 
get anything you can into him—baby food (without onion!), tuna water from  can; 
cold cuts; treats; ANYTHING you can.  Try and make it a bit liquidy so he gets 
fluids as well.   

 

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Hi there 

 

My name is Emily and I have three cats, Moses (Felv +) Jeremiah and Samson 
(status yet unknown).

 

I just found out that Moses is + and he's quite sick. the doctor put him on 
prednesone and doxycline... 

 

He's not eating and he's quite thin.

 

The dr wants to put him to sleep. Is this really my only option? Also - if i 
bring him home to be with his brothers... will he infect them? Should i have 
them tested? 

 

I'm so sad. 

 

Any help would be greatly appreciated... 

 

THank you thank you thank you... 

 

 

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RE: New to the list

2007-12-20 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
Hi, Emily --
 
I'm sorry Moses is so sick.  As you can see, you're already getting lots
of good ideas on how to treat him.  One important thing is, is your vet
is willing to work with you to help Moses get better?  I hope the fact
that he's given you drugs for him is a good sign in that regard.  The
question is, did the vet suggest putting him to sleep based on his
actual condition (i.e. does Moses seem to have lymphoma, severe anemia,
etc.) or just on the widely held but erroneous opinion that FeLV is an
automatic death sentence?  You should ask your vet if he's willing to
help you on this -- if he's not, maybe you should go vet-shopping.
Unfortunately, once kitties are in crisis, it can be hard to save them,
but if it's a case of them being undernourished or generally sickly
rather than being in the grip of some actual ugly disease, often good
care and good food can bring them out of it.  
 
You've come to a good place for help.  Sending vibes that Moses gains
weight and feels better!
 
Diane R.



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My name is Emily and I have three cats, Moses (Felv +) Jeremiah and
Samson (status yet unknown).

I just found out that Moses is + and he's quite sick. the doctor put him
on prednesone and doxycline... 

He's not eating and he's quite thin.

The dr wants to put him to sleep. Is this really my only option? Also -
if i bring him home to be with his brothers... will he infect them?
Should i have them tested? 

I'm so sad. 

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Re: New to the list~ feline assisted feeding info

2007-12-20 Thread laurieskatz
Join the yahoo group  feline assisted feeding. GREAT INFO there re importance 
of eating and helping them eat. 
http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/Feline-Assisted-Feeding/
Important to get nutrition in him immediately.
Start with AD which is easily syringed and high calories.
I would keep him separate from your other kitties for now...
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  Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 10:27 AM
  Subject: Re: New to the list


  Hi Emily,

  Your only option is NOT to put him to sleep.  

  As far as the thinness goes, you can learn to syringe feed him.  Sometimes 
they pull through episodes of illness and sometimes not.

  I would have the brothers tested - but if they're going to be infected they 
likely already have been, since they have been together so long.  Some people 
on this list mix + and -, and some don't.  After testing, if they are negative, 
I'd definitely get them vaccinated against FELV, though.  Have they ever been 
vaccinated against it before? 

  There are lots of people here who know more about FELV than I do.  I just 
wanted you to know someone's out here listening, someone cares, and you aren't 
alone.

  This is a great list, welcome.


  On Dec 20, 2007 10:17 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi there 


My name is Emily and I have three cats, Moses (Felv +) Jeremiah and Samson 
(status yet unknown).


I just found out that Moses is + and he's quite sick. the doctor put him on 
prednesone and doxycline... 


He's not eating and he's quite thin.


The dr wants to put him to sleep. Is this really my only option? Also - if 
i bring him home to be with his brothers... will he infect them? Should i have 
them tested? 


I'm so sad. 


Any help would be greatly appreciated... 


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Re: New to the list

2007-12-20 Thread laurieskatz
Me again. Getting to an internal medicine specialist saved Isabella's life. 
Wonder if you have one nearby?
Diane asks good questions and makes a good observation re the meds.
Laurie
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  From: Rosenfeldt, Diane 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 11:22 AM
  Subject: RE: New to the list


  Hi, Emily --

  I'm sorry Moses is so sick.  As you can see, you're already getting lots of 
good ideas on how to treat him.  One important thing is, is your vet is willing 
to work with you to help Moses get better?  I hope the fact that he's given you 
drugs for him is a good sign in that regard.  The question is, did the vet 
suggest putting him to sleep based on his actual condition (i.e. does Moses 
seem to have lymphoma, severe anemia, etc.) or just on the widely held but 
erroneous opinion that FeLV is an automatic death sentence?  You should ask 
your vet if he's willing to help you on this -- if he's not, maybe you should 
go vet-shopping.  Unfortunately, once kitties are in crisis, it can be hard to 
save them, but if it's a case of them being undernourished or generally sickly 
rather than being in the grip of some actual ugly disease, often good care and 
good food can bring them out of it.  

  You've come to a good place for help.  Sending vibes that Moses gains weight 
and feels better!

  Diane R.



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  Hi there 


  My name is Emily and I have three cats, Moses (Felv +) Jeremiah and Samson 
(status yet unknown).


  I just found out that Moses is + and he's quite sick. the doctor put him on 
prednesone and doxycline... 


  He's not eating and he's quite thin.


  The dr wants to put him to sleep. Is this really my only option? Also - if i 
bring him home to be with his brothers... will he infect them? Should i have 
them tested? 


  I'm so sad. 


  Any help would be greatly appreciated... 


  THank you thank you thank you... 





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RE: New to the list

2007-12-20 Thread Chris Behnke
One of my babies, Monty, was diagnosed at 9 months old.  He was incredibly ill 
and the vet didn’t think he would make it and wanted me to put him to sleep as 
well.  I wasn’t ready to give up, so I went to another vet.  3 years 3 months 
later, Monty is still with me and have never been sick since his initial 
diagnosis.   He lives in the same house as his brother (Felv negative), his 
mother (negative), his grandmother (negative), 2 aunts (both negative), 2 
uncles (both negative) and 4 other unrelated cats who are all negative.  We did 
lose one of his aunts and his dad who were both positive.  They all share the 
same space and have for over 4 years.  

 

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My name is Emily and I have three cats, Moses (Felv +) Jeremiah and Samson 
(status yet unknown).

 

I just found out that Moses is + and he's quite sick. the doctor put him on 
prednesone and doxycline... 

 

He's not eating and he's quite thin.

 

The dr wants to put him to sleep. Is this really my only option? Also - if i 
bring him home to be with his brothers... will he infect them? Should i have 
them tested? 

 

I'm so sad. 

 

Any help would be greatly appreciated... 

 

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Re: New to the List, Cats, and FeLV!!

2006-07-31 Thread Marissa Johnson
THANK YOU SO MUCH!!! You've all been so awesome and helpful!! As far as having the instinct about diet and vitamins...I just figured that since that's what I'm supposed to do to boost my immune system when I'm sick, I wondered if the same could work for him. I am abig believer in holistic treatmentsfor myself (balanced with medicines, etc.), so hold the same philosophies for Slink. As far as the food, we've made some good progress on that front. I think my problem was that I was trying to introduce too many new things at once (canned food, new dry food, vitamins, etc.). I backed off a bit and have been mixing the Evo dry with the purina (increasing the Evo amounts) and he seems to be having no trouble eating it. Pretty soon we should be able to do just the Evo. THEN, I'll try to start adding canned and then mixing in vitamins, etc. But it looks like there's hope! And the
 good news is that the pet food store owner gave me samples of the Evo so that if he really won't eat it, I can take back the bag I bought. This weekend I did some of my own research on the different brands of natural foods and it does appear that Evo is just about the best thing I could give him. So hopefully he'll start cooperating! :)I would love to see the info you have from the Natural Cat book. Thanks for sharing!!The only question I have right now (and I think I know the answer, but want to check) is...if he ends up testing positive when I have him retested, can I adopt another positive cat? It sounds like several of you have multiple positive kitties, but I wanted to make sure it would be okay to have 2 together. I just wondered if they would share secondary infections or if one could make the other worse or anything. But if it won't hurt either of them, I've
 decided that if he tests positive, I will adopt another positive cat. I want to wait 'till I'm sure of his test results, though. I may still adopt another cat (negative) even if he tests negative. :)I'll send more questions (and the names of the vitamins and stuff I bought for opinions) as I think of them.Thanks again everyone for all your support and help!!! MarissaKerry MacKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Hi Marissa  And a big welcome, although I'm sorry for the reason you had to find us.  First, thanks for opening your heart to this sweet
 little soul. And, given that you say you've been largely more of a "dog person" I'm hugely impressed by the manner in which you've proceeded so far, eg, your instinct about your vet's diet comments is right on the nail.   Your main goal is to keep Slinky's immune system boosted as much as you can, so Number One essential--which you're already doing (if only Slinky would co-operate!)--is go to a good pet food store as you've doneand buy top-quality cat food ie cat food without additives and preservatives and fillers, like Innova, Wellness, or Eagle, to namea few. (Showering him with all that love and affection you're already giving him will sure help keep his immune system boosted too!)  If he absolutely won't eat any of the top brands after you've tried a few---and this is just my suggestion--maybe you cd try mixing it to begin with with a "junk" pet food that he will eat and then gradually eliminate
 the "junk"? Just an idea, and maybe others on the list will have a better idea. Another idea--again just my own suggestion--would be to try finger feeding him the good stuff, and see if that changes his attitude.  Tomorrow I'll send you info gleaned from the FeLV section of Anitra Frazier's The New Natural Cat book that I used for my FeLV cats--it's on my work computer. I used her recipe for Vita-Mineral mixfor my FeLV kitts from the time I got them till the time I lost them and I'm convinced that even tho their lives were cut far too short, it helped them enormously.   You will get lots more advicethe list can be slow on weekends. Please fire away with any Qs--you can never ask too many. This is thekindest,most supportive, most knowledgeablegroup ever and was my lifeline/godsend when I discovered all my brood had FeLV.   Will be in touch again tomorrow
 Marissa. You are already doing a great job in using your own instinct to guide you--Slinky is a lucky little kit to have found you.  take care, Kerry- Original Message - From: Marissa Johnson   To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org   Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 11:21 AM  Subject: New to the List,
 Cats, and FeLV!!Hi all. So I'm new to all of this! I recently took in a stray that was living under my boyfriend's house (his mom gave birth there and we found homes for all the kittens...one being mine. Mom still lives there and he feeds her).My family had cats when I was in high school but they were indoor/outdoor (we lived in the country) and I never bonded with them too much. They were mostly my step-mom's pets. I've generally been more of a dog person.But now i have this WONDERFUL, adorable litt

Re: To Marissa (MJ) Re: New to the List, Cats, and FeLV!!

2006-07-31 Thread Marissa Johnson
Hi Wendy. Thanks!! I would LOVE to see your sick cat manual!!! Thanks!Yes, Evo does seem to be just about the best thing out there. The pet food store owner said that with FeLV, raw diet could compromise his immune system, so I decided to go with the Evo. As I said in my last post, he does seem to be getting better about eating at least the dry. Will start adding canned soon. This weekend was interesting. My boyfriend lives 5.5 hours away from me (so when I got Slinky he had to ride up in the car with him, his sister, and his dog!). I go down there every other weekend to see him. I debated about what to do with Slink this weekend while I was gone, and finally decided to take him. I knew it would be stressful, but decided I wanted to teach him to adjust to different situations now while he's young and healthy. Then if he ends up getting
 sick, going to the vet or hospital or having someone care for him or something hopefully won't be so stressful.I have to say that he did pretty well! He doesn't really like his carrier and usually spends quite a bit of time meowing before he settles down. But by the time we got back last night, he had gotten pretty used to it. He even used the litter box in the car when I stopped for gas! He did fine at my boyfriend's house (kept him in the bedroom, mostly). My boyfriend and his sister each have sheepdogs. Slink and Sam (boyfriend's dog) do fine together - they mostly ignore each other and Sam is very mellow. But Milo (his sister's dog) is used to playing with cats and kept chasing Slinky around. But he found his hiding places and some new toys and seemed to do okay. So all in all I'm glad I took him. I didn't want to
 leave him for 2 days (would've missed him) and I think he did fine with adjusting, etc. He seemed to have tons of energy when we got back last night and was bounding around and playing with his new toys. So that's good.I think I'll always be a dog person, but now I'll be a cat person too! lol It is great having him around...and you can't beat having him curl up next to you in bed and purr you to sleep! lol Re: the name Slinky...I debated a long time about a name! But then when I first got him, I saw him going down the stairs in my apartment and he looked just like a slinky! And since he's gray, it seemed like a good fit. Now, of course, he's grown quite a bit and has no trouble going down the stairs. When we got home last night, he ran all the way down and then back up again...as if to say, "Look what I can do mom!" But mom isn't so happy about that because
 the only thing at the bottom of the stairs is the door, so now I have to watch to make sure he doesn't go outside. Hopefully he won't go down there too much, though, since there really isn't anything to interest him there.Anyway...this is getting very long! Thanks again for everyone's wonderful advice!! I'll have to try the chicken broth on him. So far the only kind of treats I've been able to get him to eat are chicken, so he'd probably love some cooked chicken and/or broth! I hope you are all doing well and I'll keep your kitties in my prayers!Marissawendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Hi Marissa,My name is Wendy. I've been on this list since lastOctober and probably will never leave. The peoplehere
 got me through one of the hardest times in mylife when my baby Cricket was sick with anemia fromthe FeLV, and died after three weeks of trying to gethim to turn around. Everyone here is so knowledgeableand helpful, and I stick around now to try to help newpeople just like you.Your vet is right. Many cats throw the virus off, andsome just carry it around. And even if he does testpositive, there are absolutely things you can do toprolong his life.The two most important things to keep in mind withFeLV positives is a stress free environment and immuneboosting including food and supplements. A lot ofpeople use the Evo. I think what Maggie and Kerrysaid about mixing the old food with the new and thenslowly decreasing the old might work for your baby. It will take time. Mine are on the Evo, wet and dry,and it is great stuff. Probably the best on themarket, in my opinion. Some do the raw diet.
 Whatever you end up feeding him, make sure it has nograins in it. As far as supplements go, there areseveral routes you can go. Vitamin C is supposed tobe a great immune booster. Some people even claimthat it can turn positives to negatives. L-lysine(WITHOUT) propylene glycol is also good for immuneboosting, especially if he has feline herpes, whicheither can't be or isn't easy to be tested for (can'tremember). I say he might have it because sneezingand URI's are typical symptoms. Many cats haveherpes, so it's no big deal. The L-lysine helps agreat deal with keeping that in remission. It's kindof like cold sores for us. The lysine is greatbecause kitty won't be able to taste it. I just mixit in with the wet food. I leave out dry for mine,and feed wet in the morn and eve. I have a kitty 

Re: To Marissa (MJ) Re: New to the List, Cats, and FeLV!!

2006-07-31 Thread wendy


--- Marissa Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Hey Marissa,

I'm glad that Slinky is doing so well!  I agree with
you that it's a good idea to get him used to the car
now.  When my husband and I retire in 30 years or so,
we're going to train a kitten or two to ride in a
Winnebago so we can see the country!  lol.  I sent the
manual to your email addy.  Let me know if you don't
get it.

:)
Wendy

 Hi Wendy.  Thanks!!  I would LOVE to see your sick
 cat manual!!!  Thanks!

   Yes, Evo does seem to be just about the best thing
 out there.  The pet food store owner said that with
 FeLV, raw diet could compromise his immune system,
 so I decided to go with the Evo.  As I said in my
 last post, he does seem to be getting better about
 eating at least the dry.  Will start adding canned
 soon.  

   This weekend was interesting.  My boyfriend lives
 5.5 hours away from me (so when I got Slinky he had
 to ride up in the car with him, his sister, and his
 dog!).  I go down there every other weekend to see
 him.  I debated about what to do with Slink this
 weekend while I was gone, and finally decided to
 take him.  I knew it would be stressful, but decided
 I wanted to teach him to adjust to different
 situations now while he's young and healthy.  Then
 if he ends up getting sick, going to the vet or
 hospital or having someone care for him or something
 hopefully won't be so stressful.

   I have to say that he did pretty well!  He doesn't
 really like his carrier and usually spends quite a
 bit of time meowing before he settles down.  But by
 the time we got back last night, he had gotten
 pretty used to it.  He even used the litter box in
 the car when I stopped for gas!  

   He did fine at my boyfriend's house (kept him in
 the bedroom, mostly).  My boyfriend and his sister
 each have sheepdogs.  Slink and Sam (boyfriend's
 dog) do fine together - they mostly ignore each
 other and Sam is very mellow.  But Milo (his
 sister's dog) is used to playing with cats and kept
 chasing Slinky around.  But he found his hiding
 places and some new toys and seemed to do okay.  

   So all in all I'm glad I took him.  I didn't want
 to leave him for 2 days (would've missed him) and I
 think he did fine with adjusting, etc.  He seemed to
 have tons of energy when we got back last night and
 was bounding around and playing with his new toys. 
 So that's good.

   I think I'll always be a dog person, but now I'll
 be a cat person too! lol  It is great having him
 around...and you can't beat having him curl up next
 to you in bed and purr you to sleep! lol  Re: the
 name Slinky...I debated a long time about a name! 
 But then when I first got him, I saw him going down
 the stairs in my apartment and he looked just like a
 slinky!  And since he's gray, it seemed like a good
 fit.  

   Now, of course, he's grown quite a bit and has no
 trouble going down the stairs.  When we got home
 last night, he ran all the way down and then back up
 again...as if to say, Look what I can do mom!  But
 mom isn't so happy about that because the only thing
 at the bottom of the stairs is the door, so now I
 have to watch to make sure he doesn't go outside. 
 Hopefully he won't go down there too much, though,
 since there really isn't anything to interest him
 there.

   Anyway...this is getting very long!  Thanks again
 for everyone's wonderful advice!!  I'll have to try
 the chicken broth on him.  So far the only kind of
 treats I've been able to get him to eat are chicken,
 so he'd probably love some cooked chicken and/or
 broth!  

   I hope you are all doing well and I'll keep your
 kitties in my prayers!

   Marissa
 
 wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Hi Marissa,
 
 My name is Wendy. I've been on this list since last
 October and probably will never leave. The people
 here got me through one of the hardest times in my
 life when my baby Cricket was sick with anemia from
 the FeLV, and died after three weeks of trying to
 get
 him to turn around. Everyone here is so
 knowledgeable
 and helpful, and I stick around now to try to help
 new
 people just like you.
 
 Your vet is right. Many cats throw the virus off,
 and
 some just carry it around. And even if he does test
 positive, there are absolutely things you can do to
 prolong his life.
 
 The two most important things to keep in mind with
 FeLV positives is a stress free environment and
 immune
 boosting including food and supplements. A lot of
 people use the Evo. I think what Maggie and Kerry
 said about mixing the old food with the new and then
 slowly decreasing the old might work for your baby. 
 It will take time. Mine are on the Evo, wet and dry,
 and it is great stuff. Probably the best on the
 market, in my opinion. Some do the raw diet. 
 Whatever you end up feeding him, make sure it has no
 grains in it. As far as supplements go, there are
 several routes you can go. Vitamin C is supposed to
 be a great immune booster. Some people even 

RE: New to the List, Cats, and FeLV!!

2006-07-31 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
Title: Message





Hiagain Marissa 
WhenI discovered in December 2003 that 5 
of thecolony of 6 kitties I took in 
wereFeLVpositive,I had to go on a crash course, so to 
speak, in dealing with FeLV cats. My most 
precious references became this wonderful 
group and Anitra Frazier's The Natural Cat Book. 
As I 
said yesterday, 4 of my positives succumbed to the disease. But until that time, 
they enjoyed quality of life--a far too short life, to be sure. The remaining 
positive, Mickey,threw off the FeLV. The 6th cat, Momcat,never 
became positive. (I had them both re-tested 2 months ago, in May.)Momcat 
continued tolive with the others, sharing everything--I felt it would have 
been cruelto separate her, and pointless too, since she had already been 
fully exposed to the FeLV--and is walking testimony to the fact that FeLV 
is simply not as contagious as many, including vets, think.

Here's a copy of what I've sent out in 
the past with the salient points:

~~Give only 
filtered water.
~~Buy the 
best pet food you can afford.Until I joined this group, I didn't even knowthere werehigher 
quality brands than those found in the 
chains--Petco, Petsmart etc.--i.e. brands 
without by-products, additives or preservatives,like Wellness, Innova, Petguard. These are found in the independent pet 
stores and stores like Wholefoods. 

~~Add these supplements morning and evening tothe wet food, to boost the kitties' immune system: a 500mg 
L-Lysin pill (grind first), easily available from 
pharmacies/healthfood stores, 1/4 tsp 
feline enzymes, 1 teaspoon of 'Vita-Mineral 
Mix'(seedetailsbelow). 
Also, gradually, as I was able to 
obtain them (not difficult as it turned out, everything is available in health 
food stores or Internet) I added most of the remainder of the supplements 
Frazier recommends: 
1 tablet bioplasma, 
crushed; extra 1/4 teaspoon of bonemeal (ie over and above the bonemeal in the 
Vita Min Mix below); 10 mg Co-Enzyme Q10; 1/8 teaspoon 
olive oil; 1/2 teaspoon cod liver oil; and 1 teaspoon chopped alfalfa 
sprouts 
And I gave them interferon. Got it 
thru Walgreen's (eventually) on my vet's prescription, and he made it up for 
me.Some members eg Nina and 
Michelle,have worked with their vet to get feline 
interferon from England. I know they will be more than happy to give 
you the details.
Here's 
the Vita-Mineral Mix recipe (very easy to make up in bulk -- 
store in refrigerator)
1 1/2 cups yeast 
powder (brewer's yeast, nutritional yeast or tarula). (I use nutritional 
yeast.) 

1/4 cup kelp powder or 1/4 cup mixed 
trace mineral powder (I found kelp first, so I use that) 
1 cup lecithin 
granules 

2 cups wheat bran 
2 cups bonemeal, calcium lactate or calcium gluconate. (I have 
only been able to find bonemeal--the Solgar brand). 
Mix together and store in covered 
container. MUST be kept in refrigerator as some of these ingredients perish. Add 
1 teaspoonful of Vita-Mineral Mix to each cat's meal (ie 2 teaspoonfuls per cat 
per day). 
Also recommended by Anitra Frazier:
"Give a total of four doses of 250 units 
Vit C each day (use 1/16 teaspoon ascorbic acid crystals or 
sodium ascorbate powder). (I found the powder easily.) Vitamin C is not stored 
in the body well so is most effective given in several doses throughout the day. 
Always mix Vitamin C with a little High-Calcium Chicken Broth (I can send you 
the recipe if you like) or a teaspoon of a food the cat loves. Never give Vit C 
without a little food. Once a week give each cat 400 units Vitamin 
E (alpha tocopherol, not mixed tocopherols) and the contents of 
aVitamin 
AD capsule."
You will get tons more advice 
and help from others on the list!
Good luck,and hugs to you and Slinky. Bless you for loving and 
caring andlooking out for 
him.Kerry


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Re: New to the List, Cats, and FeLV!!

2006-07-31 Thread TenHouseCats
the only thing i've heard about mixing positives with possibly positives is that, if a cat is in the process of throwing the virus off, exposure to other positive cats (who might have a different strain of the virus) MAY make it more difficult for them to do so. other than that, definite positives live quite happily with other positives with no appreciable problems--we had close to 200 at one point at the sanctuary, and we have one wonderful family that adopts only positives from us, whenever one of theirs go to the bridge. actually, they come down from up north to get one new positive, and sometimes leave with as many as 5! hee hee boy, do we need more families like that! 

On 7/31/06, MacKenzie, Kerry N. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:





Hiagain Marissa 
WhenI discovered in December 2003 that 5 of thecolony of 6 kitties I took in wereFeLVpositive,I had to go on a crash course, so to speak, in dealing with FeLV cats
. My most precious references became this wonderful group and Anitra Frazier's The Natural Cat Book. 
As I said yesterday, 4 of my positives succumbed to the disease. But until that time, they enjoyed quality of life--a far too short life, to be sure. The remaining positive, Mickey,threw off the FeLV. The 6th cat, Momcat,never became positive. (I had them both re-tested 2 months ago, in May.)Momcat continued tolive with the others, sharing everything--I felt it would have been cruelto separate her, and pointless too, since she had already been fully exposed to the FeLV--and is walking testimony to the fact that FeLV is simply not as contagious as many, including vets, think.


Here's a copy of what I've sent out in the past with the salient points:

~~Give only filtered water.
~~Buy the best pet food you can afford.Until I joined this group, I didn't even knowthere werehigher quality brands
 than those found in the chains--Petco, Petsmart etc.--i.e. brands without by-products, additives or preservatives,like Wellness, Innova, Petguard. These are found in the independent pet stores
 and stores like Wholefoods. 
~~Add these supplements morning and evening tothe wet food, to boost the kitties' 
immune system: a 500mg L-Lysin pill (grind first), easily available from pharmacies/healthfood stores, 1/4 tsp feline enzymes, 1 teaspoon of 'Vita-Mineral Mix'
(seedetailsbelow). 
Also, gradually, as I was able to obtain them (not difficult as it turned out, everything is available in health food stores or Internet) I added most of the remainder of the supplements Frazier recommends: 

1 tablet bioplasma, crushed; extra 1/4 teaspoon of bonemeal (ie over and above the bonemeal in the Vita Min Mix below)
; 10 mg Co-Enzyme Q10; 1/8 teaspoon olive oil; 1/2 teaspoon cod liver oil; and 1 teaspoon chopped alfalfa sprouts 
And I gave them interferon. Got it thru Walgreen's (eventually) on my vet's prescription, and he made it up for me.Some members eg Nina and Michelle,have worked with their vet to get 
feline interferon from England. I know they will be more than happy to give you the details.
Here's the Vita-Mineral Mix recipe (very easy to make up in bulk -- store in refrigerator)
1 1/2 cups yeast powder (brewer's yeast, nutritional yeast or tarula). (I use nutritional yeast.) 

1/4 cup kelp powder or 1/4 cup mixed trace mineral powder (I found kelp first, so I use that)
1 cup lecithin granules
2 cups wheat bran
2 cups bonemeal,calcium lactate or calcium gluconate. (I have only been able to find bonemeal--the Solgar brand). 

Mix together and store in covered container. MUST be kept in refrigerator as some of these ingredients perish. Add 1 teaspoonful of Vita-Mineral Mix to each cat's meal (ie 2 teaspoonfuls per cat per day). 

Also recommended by Anitra Frazier:
Give a total of four doses of 250 units Vit C each day (use 1/16 teaspoon ascorbic acid crystals or sodium ascorbate powder). (I found the powder easily.) Vitamin C is not stored in the body well so is most effective given in several doses throughout the day. Always mix Vitamin C with a little High-Calcium Chicken Broth (I can send you the recipe if you like) or a teaspoon of a food the cat loves. Never give Vit C without a little food. Once a week give each cat 400 units 
Vitamin E (alpha tocopherol, not mixed tocopherols) and the contents of aVitamin AD capsule.
You will get tons more advice and help from others on the list!
Good luck,and hugs to you and Slinky. Bless you for loving and caring andlooking out for him.Kerry


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To Marissa (MJ) Re: New to the List, Cats, and FeLV!!

2006-07-30 Thread wendy
Hi Marissa,

My name is Wendy.  I've been on this list since last
October and probably will never leave.  The people
here got me through one of the hardest times in my
life when my baby Cricket was sick with anemia from
the FeLV, and died after three weeks of trying to get
him to turn around.  Everyone here is so knowledgeable
and helpful, and I stick around now to try to help new
people just like you.

Your vet is right.  Many cats throw the virus off, and
some just carry it around.  And even if he does test
positive, there are absolutely things you can do to
prolong his life.

The two most important things to keep in mind with
FeLV positives is a stress free environment and immune
boosting including food and supplements.  A lot of
people use the Evo.  I think what Maggie and Kerry
said about mixing the old food with the new and then
slowly decreasing the old might work for your baby. 
It will take time.  Mine are on the Evo, wet and dry,
and it is great stuff.  Probably the best on the
market, in my opinion.  Some do the raw diet. 
Whatever you end up feeding him, make sure it has no
grains in it.  As far as supplements go, there are
several routes you can go.  Vitamin C is supposed to
be a great immune booster.  Some people even claim
that it can turn positives to negatives.  L-lysine
(WITHOUT) propylene glycol is also good for immune
boosting, especially if he has feline herpes, which
either can't be or isn't easy to be tested for (can't
remember).  I say he might have it because sneezing
and URI's are typical symptoms.  Many cats have
herpes, so it's no big deal.  The L-lysine helps a
great deal with keeping that in remission.  It's kind
of like cold sores for us.  The lysine is great
because kitty won't be able to taste it.  I just mix
it in with the wet food.  I leave out dry for mine,
and feed wet in the morn and eve.  I have a kitty with
hyperthyroidism that gets chicken broth twice a day,
which some kitties love, and cooked chicken at night. 
The chicken broth is just the byproduct of cooking the
chicken in water.  I always feed it to my sick
kitties; not all eat it though.

I have also compiled a sick kitty manual that has a
lot of good info. in it.  It's good even if your kitty
is not sick.  I took months of posts and info. from
this site along with personal research and combined it
to make the manual.  It's in glossary form and
cross-referenced in a Word document.  Let me know if
you'd like it and I'll send it to you directly as the
list won't allow attachments.

I always say people who are dog people have never been
loved by a cat.  We'll see what you have to say in a
few months about that.  LOL.  I love the name Slinky,
btw.

If you have ANY questions, just ask.  We're here to
help.

:)
Wendy
Dallas, Tx

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Re: To Marissa (MJ) Re: New to the List, Cats, and FeLV!!

2006-07-30 Thread kandbz_ mom
Wendy,I'm not the person you were talking to, but would you mind sending me this info for Angel? Thanks,  Karenwendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Hi Marissa,My name is Wendy. I've been on this list since lastOctober and probably will never leave. The peoplehere got me through one of the hardest times in mylife when my baby Cricket was sick with anemia fromthe FeLV, and died after three weeks of trying to gethim to turn around. Everyone here is so knowledgeableand helpful, and I stick around now to try to help newpeople just like you.Your vet is right. Many cats throw the virus off, andsome just carry it around. And even if he does testpositive, there are absolutely things you can do toprolong his
 life.The two most important things to keep in mind withFeLV positives is a stress free environment and immuneboosting including food and supplements. A lot ofpeople use the Evo. I think what Maggie and Kerrysaid about mixing the old food with the new and thenslowly decreasing the old might work for your baby. It will take time. Mine are on the Evo, wet and dry,and it is great stuff. Probably the best on themarket, in my opinion. Some do the raw diet. Whatever you end up feeding him, make sure it has nograins in it. As far as supplements go, there areseveral routes you can go. Vitamin C is supposed tobe a great immune booster. Some people even claimthat it can turn positives to negatives. L-lysine(WITHOUT) propylene glycol is also good for immuneboosting, especially if he has feline herpes, whicheither can't be or isn't easy to be tested for (can'tremember). I say he might have it because
 sneezingand URI's are typical symptoms. Many cats haveherpes, so it's no big deal. The L-lysine helps agreat deal with keeping that in remission. It's kindof like cold sores for us. The lysine is greatbecause kitty won't be able to taste it. I just mixit in with the wet food. I leave out dry for mine,and feed wet in the morn and eve. I have a kitty withhyperthyroidism that gets chicken broth twice a day,which some kitties love, and cooked chicken at night. The chicken broth is just the byproduct of cooking thechicken in water. I always feed it to my sickkitties; not all eat it though.I have also compiled a sick kitty manual that has alot of good info. in it. It's good even if your kittyis not sick. I took months of posts and info. fromthis site along with personal research and combined itto make the manual. It's in glossary form andcross-referenced in a Word document. Let me know ifyou'd like
 it and I'll send it to you directly as thelist won't allow attachments.I always say people who are dog people have never beenloved by a cat. We'll see what you have to say in afew months about that. LOL. I love the name Slinky,btw.If you have ANY questions, just ask. We're here tohelp.:)WendyDallas, Tx__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com  
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New to the List, Cats, and FeLV!!

2006-07-28 Thread Marissa Johnson
Hi all. So I'm new to all of this! I recently took in a stray that was living under my boyfriend's house (his mom gave birth there and we found homes for all the kittens...one being mine. Mom still lives there and he feeds her).My family had cats when I was in high school but they were indoor/outdoor (we lived in the country) and I never bonded with them too much. They were mostly my step-mom's pets. I've generally been more of a dog person.But now i have this WONDERFUL, adorable little baby (about 14-15 weeks old) named Slinky. He's a gray and white DSH and the sweetest cat ever. And when I took him to the vet (last weekend...I just got him recently), he tested positive for FeLV. :(The vet said that he had about a 25% chance of "growing out of it" (or fighting it off or being a fals positive or whatever it is that causes cats
 to test positive as kittens and negative as adults), and about a 25% chance of having it his whole life and not being affected by it. The only "symptom" he's had is that he had an upper resperatory infection about 3 weeks ago. My boyfriend's sister took him to the vet (it was before I got him) and they gave him amoxicillan and eye drops and he seemed to recover pretty quickly. He still sneezes a fair amount, but that's it.So...I brought him home and I'm praying for the best. He was kind of lethargic and quiet for a couple days after the vet visit, but I assume that's probably from the trauma and the vaccinations (other than FeLV). He's been pretty much back to his normal self for a few days now. But his mom still has a TON of questions!!! My first thought was to wonder whether vitamin supplements or diet or something might help to boost his immune system and either
 help him fight off the virus or keep secondary infections at bay. The vet said as long as his diet is sufficient, he doesn't need them, but I'm not sure the vet is the best (I'm also new to the area, so trying to find a vet is a challenge!).I was giving him dry Purina kitten chow (it was all I knew to get) and the vet said that was as good as anything. I don't really believe him though. So I went toa natural pet food store and the owner gave me some canned food and some dry...all natural, no grains (innova evo). But he won't eat it. He won't touch the dry food at all! And the canned he'll only eat if it's the only option...and he won't really even eat it if I mix it with the purina. Ugh!I also bought a vitamin powder and something to help his digestive track (which he isn't too crazy about). But I'm a little leary of using those. Some articles I found
 online said that vitamin C would help him (esp. since he's only eating dry food right now), but others said too much could cause crystals in his urine, etc. Some articles/websites said to only give him canned, others say raw, others say a mixture. Everything contradicts itself What am I supposed to do???I love this little guy so much and I know he's totally dependent on me to make the best decisions for his care. But I don't know what those are!!! I'm doing my best to educate myself, but since so much of the information is contradictory, it's hard. Is there anything I can do to help prolong his life? They're going to retest him in about 6 months the vet said. Other than the upper resperatory infection, he's had ear mites (gone now) and he now has tape worm which they'll treat him for in 2 weeks when I go for his next round of vaccinations. But beyond
 that, he's healthy, energetic, playful, and seems to have a healthy appetite.Anyway...positive thoughts and prayers would be appreciated! But I could REALLY use some advice/perspectives/information to help me make the right decisions!!!Thanks in advance! I'll be praying for all your special kitties.Slinky's Mom (MJ)p.s. Sorry this is so long   __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com 

Re: New to the List, Cats, and FeLV!!

2006-07-28 Thread kandbz_ mom
Welcome! You have definitely found the right place to ask questions! I am new myself, I started posting about a week and a half ago. Unlike your vet who seemed optimistic, my vet wanted me to have Angel euthanized. I was devastated, until I found this email group. KarenMarissa Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Hi all. So I'm new to all of this! I recently took in a stray that was living under my boyfriend's house (his mom gave birth there and we found homes for all the kittens...one being mine. Mom still lives there and he feeds her).My family had cats when I was in high school but they were indoor/outdoor (we lived in the country) and I never bonded with them too much. They were mostly my step-mom's pets. I've generally
 been more of a dog person.But now i have this WONDERFUL, adorable little baby (about 14-15 weeks old) named Slinky. He's a gray and white DSH and the sweetest cat ever. And when I took him to the vet (last weekend...I just got him recently), he tested positive for FeLV. :(The vet said that he had about a 25% chance of "growing out of it" (or fighting it off or being a fals positive or whatever it is that causes cats to test positive as kittens and negative as adults), and about a 25% chance of having it his whole life and not being affected by it. The only "symptom" he's had is that he had an upper resperatory infection about 3 weeks ago. My boyfriend's sister took him to the vet (it was before I got him) and they gave him amoxicillan and eye drops and he seemed to recover pretty quickly. He still sneezes a fair amount, but that's it.So...I
 brought him home and I'm praying for the best. He was kind of lethargic and quiet for a couple days after the vet visit, but I assume that's probably from the trauma and the vaccinations (other than FeLV). He's been pretty much back to his normal self for a few days now. But his mom still has a TON of questions!!! My first thought was to wonder whether vitamin supplements or diet or something might help to boost his immune system and either help him fight off the virus or keep secondary infections at bay. The vet said as long as his diet is sufficient, he doesn't need them, but I'm not sure the vet is the best (I'm also new to the area, so trying to find a vet is a challenge!).I was giving him dry Purina kitten chow (it was all I knew to get) and the vet said that was as good as anything. I don't really believe him though. So I went toa natural pet food store and
 the owner gave me some canned food and some dry...all natural, no grains (innova evo). But he won't eat it. He won't touch the dry food at all! And the canned he'll only eat if it's the only option...and he won't really even eat it if I mix it with the purina. Ugh!I also bought a vitamin powder and something to help his digestive track (which he isn't too crazy about). But I'm a little leary of using those. Some articles I found online said that vitamin C would help him (esp. since he's only eating dry food right now), but others said too much could cause crystals in his urine, etc. Some articles/websites said to only give him canned, others say raw, others say a mixture. Everything contradicts itself What am I supposed to do???I love this little guy so much and I know he's totally dependent on me to make the best decisions for his care. But I
 don't know what those are!!! I'm doing my best to educate myself, but since so much of the information is contradictory, it's hard. Is there anything I can do to help prolong his life? They're going to retest him in about 6 months the vet said. Other than the upper resperatory infection, he's had ear mites (gone now) and he now has tape worm which they'll treat him for in 2 weeks when I go for his next round of vaccinations. But beyond that, he's healthy, energetic, playful, and seems to have a healthy appetite.Anyway...positive thoughts and prayers would be appreciated! But I could REALLY use some advice/perspectives/information to help me make the right decisions!!!Thanks in advance! I'll be praying for all your special kitties.Slinky's Mom (MJ)p.s. Sorry this is so
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Re: New to the List, Cats, and FeLV!!

2006-07-28 Thread Marissa Johnson
Thanks! Yes, it did seem that at least the vet was fairly positive. Told me to try not to worry about it too much. He said about 25% of the time, they "grow out of it", about 25% of the time, they have it all their lives with no affects, about 25% of the time they have it for several years before they start having symptoms, and about 25% of the time they start having symptoms fairly quickly. So I'm hoping for the first (or even second) 25%!!!Thanks for the welcome. I've been so confused and frustrated!!! I hope I'll get some good advice on the list.Thanks again and good luck with Angel!! Sending prayers and positive vibes your way.MJkandbz_ mom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Welcome! You
 have definitely found the right place to ask questions! I am new myself, I started posting about a week and a half ago. Unlike your vet who seemed optimistic, my vet wanted me to have Angel euthanized. I was devastated, until I found this email group. KarenMarissa Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Hi all. So I'm new to all of this! I recently took in a stray that was living under my boyfriend's house (his mom gave birth there and we found homes for all the kittens...one being mine. Mom still lives there and he feeds her).My family had cats when I was in high school but they were indoor/outdoor (we lived in the country) and I never bonded with them too much. They were mostly my step-mom's pets. I've generally been more of a dog
 person.But now i have this WONDERFUL, adorable little baby (about 14-15 weeks old) named Slinky. He's a gray and white DSH and the sweetest cat ever. And when I took him to the vet (last weekend...I just got him recently), he tested positive for FeLV. :(The vet said that he had about a 25% chance of "growing out of it" (or fighting it off or being a fals positive or whatever it is that causes cats to test positive as kittens and negative as adults), and about a 25% chance of having it his whole life and not being affected by it. The only "symptom" he's had is that he had an upper resperatory infection about 3 weeks ago. My boyfriend's sister took him to the vet (it was before I got him) and they gave him amoxicillan and eye drops and he seemed to recover pretty quickly. He still sneezes a fair amount, but that's it.So...I brought him home and
 I'm praying for the best. He was kind of lethargic and quiet for a couple days after the vet visit, but I assume that's probably from the trauma and the vaccinations (other than FeLV). He's been pretty much back to his normal self for a few days now. But his mom still has a TON of questions!!! My first thought was to wonder whether vitamin supplements or diet or something might help to boost his immune system and either help him fight off the virus or keep secondary infections at bay. The vet said as long as his diet is sufficient, he doesn't need them, but I'm not sure the vet is the best (I'm also new to the area, so trying to find a vet is a challenge!).I was giving him dry Purina kitten chow (it was all I knew to get) and the vet said that was as good as anything. I don't really believe him though. So I went toa natural pet food store and the owner gave me
 some canned food and some dry...all natural, no grains (innova evo). But he won't eat it. He won't touch the dry food at all! And the canned he'll only eat if it's the only option...and he won't really even eat it if I mix it with the purina. Ugh!I also bought a vitamin powder and something to help his digestive track (which he isn't too crazy about). But I'm a little leary of using those. Some articles I found online said that vitamin C would help him (esp. since he's only eating dry food right now), but others said too much could cause crystals in his urine, etc. Some articles/websites said to only give him canned, others say raw, others say a mixture. Everything contradicts itself What am I supposed to do???I love this little guy so much and I know he's totally dependent on me to make the best decisions for his care. But I don't know what those
 are!!! I'm doing my best to educate myself, but since so much of the information is contradictory, it's hard. Is there anything I can do to help prolong his life? They're going to retest him in about 6 months the vet said. Other than the upper resperatory infection, he's had ear mites (gone now) and he now has tape worm which they'll treat him for in 2 weeks when I go for his next round of vaccinations. But beyond that, he's healthy, energetic, playful, and seems to have a healthy appetite.Anyway...positive thoughts and prayers would be appreciated! But I could REALLY use some advice/perspectives/information to help me make the right decisions!!!Thanks in advance! I'll be praying for all your special kitties.Slinky's Mom (MJ)p.s. Sorry this is so long 
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Re: New to the List, Cats, and FeLV!!

2006-07-28 Thread Kelley Saveika
Hi Marissa,

I'm really glad you found this list. Everyone here is great.

I joined when I had a kitten test positive, and she did test negative later. I just stayed because everyone is so very nice here.

Others will chime in with more advice, but I wanted to say welcome.-- Vist the Austin Siamese Rescue store and save a kitty life!http://www.cafepress.com/austinsiamese
 


Re: New to the List, Cats, and FeLV!!

2006-07-28 Thread Marissa Johnson
Aw! Thanks!! I was so glad to find the list! My boyfriend's sister used to be a vet tech, and she's been a huge help. But it's hard to find anyone who's really well versed in FeLV and/or nutrition, medicine, etc!!! Thanks for the welcome! Glad your kitten tested negative!MJKelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Hi Marissa,I'm really glad you found this list. Everyone here is great.I joined when I had a kitten test positive, and she did test negative later. I just stayed because everyone is so very nice here.Others will chime in with more advice, but I wanted to say welcome.-- Vist the Austin Siamese
 Rescue store and save a kitty life!http://www.cafepress.com/austinsiamese  
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Re: New to the List, Cats, and FeLV!!

2006-07-28 Thread kandbz_ mom
Many of the people here will be able to answer your questions. This isa great board. After the vet walked up to me and told me that Angel tested positive, he said I may want to think about euthanizing her. I said, "Can't we wait and give her the second test?" He said "there probably isn't much point because when a kitten tests positive the results are not likely to change with the second testI consider her not only a carrier, but a spreader!"So, I am looking for a new vet...one that will feel comfortable treating her. Good luck to you and I'm sending prayers your way, also!Thanks,KarenMarissa Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Thanks! Yes, it did seem
 that at least the vet was fairly positive. Told me to try not to worry about it too much. He said about 25% of the time, they "grow out of it", about 25% of the time, they have it all their lives with no affects, about 25% of the time they have it for several years before they start having symptoms, and about 25% of the time they start having symptoms fairly quickly. So I'm hoping for the first (or even second) 25%!!!Thanks for the welcome. I've been so confused and frustrated!!! I hope I'll get some good advice on the list.Thanks again and good luck with Angel!! Sending prayers and positive vibes your way.MJkandbz_ mom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Welcome! You have definitely found the right
 place to ask questions! I am new myself, I started posting about a week and a half ago. Unlike your vet who seemed optimistic, my vet wanted me to have Angel euthanized. I was devastated, until I found this email group. KarenMarissa Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Hi all. So I'm new to all of this! I recently took in a stray that was living under my boyfriend's house (his mom gave birth there and we found homes for all the kittens...one being mine. Mom still lives there and he feeds her).My family had cats when I was in high school but they were indoor/outdoor (we lived in the country) and I never bonded with them too much. They were mostly my step-mom's pets. I've generally been more of a dog person.   
 But now i have this WONDERFUL, adorable little baby (about 14-15 weeks old) named Slinky. He's a gray and white DSH and the sweetest cat ever. And when I took him to the vet (last weekend...I just got him recently), he tested positive for FeLV. :(The vet said that he had about a 25% chance of "growing out of it" (or fighting it off or being a fals positive or whatever it is that causes cats to test positive as kittens and negative as adults), and about a 25% chance of having it his whole life and not being affected by it. The only "symptom" he's had is that he had an upper resperatory infection about 3 weeks ago. My boyfriend's sister took him to the vet (it was before I got him) and they gave him amoxicillan and eye drops and he seemed to recover pretty quickly. He still sneezes a fair amount, but that's it.So...I brought him home and I'm praying for the best. He
 was kind of lethargic and quiet for a couple days after the vet visit, but I assume that's probably from the trauma and the vaccinations (other than FeLV). He's been pretty much back to his normal self for a few days now. But his mom still has a TON of questions!!! My first thought was to wonder whether vitamin supplements or diet or something might help to boost his immune system and either help him fight off the virus or keep secondary infections at bay. The vet said as long as his diet is sufficient, he doesn't need them, but I'm not sure the vet is the best (I'm also new to the area, so trying to find a vet is a challenge!).I was giving him dry Purina kitten chow (it was all I knew to get) and the vet said that was as good as anything. I don't really believe him though. So I went toa natural pet food store and the owner gave me some canned food and some dry...all
 natural, no grains (innova evo). But he won't eat it. He won't touch the dry food at all! And the canned he'll only eat if it's the only option...and he won't really even eat it if I mix it with the purina. Ugh!I also bought a vitamin powder and something to help his digestive track (which he isn't too crazy about). But I'm a little leary of using those. Some articles I found online said that vitamin C would help him (esp. since he's only eating dry food right now), but others said too much could cause crystals in his urine, etc. Some articles/websites said to only give him canned, others say raw, others say a mixture. Everything contradicts itself What am I supposed to do???I love this little guy so much and I know he's totally dependent on me to make the best decisions for his care. But I don't know what those are!!! I'm doing my best to
 educate myself, but since so much of the information is contradictory, it's hard. Is there anything I can do to help prolong his life? They're going to retest him in about 6 months the vet said. Other than the upper resperatory 

Re: New to the List, Cats, and FeLV!!

2006-07-28 Thread TatorBunz


Hello Marissa,
 Welcome to the group! 
You will find valuable information here and advice as well.
I'm sorry you had to find us but glad your here. 
I have been on the list since 2001 I think. 
I don't have any positive kitties right now but that can change at any given time. I continue to stay on because this is the best group of caring people you will find on the internet.
Some of us have met each other. Someday we plan on celebrating the cure for Felv together eating "Cheesecake" even though I don't like it but will eat it out of happiness and those that have passed on to the bridge.
It sounds like you have a caring Vet and didn't suggest euthanization which I'm glad to hear.
My Vets will not euthanized healthy Felv kitties either.
So anyway welcome look forward to hearing more about you and your furbaby!

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Re: New to the List, Cats, and FeLV!!

2006-07-28 Thread TenHouseCats
good time to remind everyone to post their vet's names/contact info for newbies needing to find medical care that goes beyond, euthanize!.

www.adopt.bemikitties.com

and everyone, add yourself to our frappr map, too!: http://www.frappr.com/felvtalk/

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Re: New to the List, Cats, and FeLV!!

2006-07-28 Thread Belinda

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Re: New to the List, Cats, and FeLV!!

2006-07-28 Thread elizamaggie

Welcome! I have two 8 month old kittens who are positive. I free feed them on Innova dry (different from evo) and for wet food they eat Wellness, when they were younger I fed them Nutra Kitten. If he won't eat a new food try mixing a little of the new food in with the old and then slowly start decreasing the amount of the old until it's just the new. Maggie



Re: New to the List, Cats, and FeLV!!

2006-07-28 Thread kandbz_ mom
I know it's a long shot, but if anyone knows ofa good, felv friendly vet in Arizona, please let me know! I'm gonna start calling them out of the phone book!! TenHouseCats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:good time to remind everyone to post their vet's names/contact info for newbies needing to find medical care that goes beyond, "euthanize!".www.adopt.bemikitties.comand everyone, add yourself to our frappr map, too!: http://www.frappr.com/felvtalk/(i'm gonna make someone a great secretary someday)MC  --
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Re: New to the List, Cats, and FeLV!!

2006-07-28 Thread TenHouseCats
http://www.aafponline.org/find_results.php?name=city=Anystate=AZcountry=Anyzipcode=Submit=Submit


that's from the American Assn of Feline Practitioners, and while there's no guarantee they're gonna be FeLV-friendly, there's probably a better chance than working with non-cat-specialists!

On 7/28/06, kandbz_ mom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I know it's a long shot, but if anyone knows ofa good, felv friendly vet in Arizona, please let me know! I'm gonna start calling them out of the phone book!! 
TenHouseCats [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote: 

good time to remind everyone to post their vet's names/contact info for newbies needing to find medical care that goes beyond, euthanize!.

www.adopt.bemikitties.com

and everyone, add yourself to our frappr map, too!: http://www.frappr.com/felvtalk/

(i'm gonna make someone a great secretary someday)

MC
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Re: New to the List, Cats, and FeLV!!

2006-07-28 Thread kandbz_ mom
Thank you for the link!!! There is one on the list that is not too far from me!! I am going to call them and go from there! Thanks again!KarenTenHouseCats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:http://www.aafponline.org/find_results.php?name=city=Anystate=AZcountry=Anyzipcode=Submit=Submit that's from the American Assn of Feline Practitioners, and while there's no guarantee they're gonna be FeLV-friendly, there's probably a better chance than working with non-cat-specialists!On 7/28/06, kandbz_ mom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know it's a long shot, but if anyone knows ofa good, felv friendly vet in Arizona, please let me know! I'm gonna start calling them out of the phone book!!   TenHouseCats [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote: good time to remind everyone to post their vet's names/contact info for newbies needing to find medical care that goes beyond, "euthanize!".www.adopt.bemikitties.comand everyone, add yourself to our frappr map, too!: http://www.frappr.com/felvtalk/(i'm gonna make someone a great secretary someday)MC  -- MaryChristineAIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCatsMSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ: 289856892 Do you Yahoo!?Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta. -- MaryChristineAIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCatsMSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ: 289856892 
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Re: New to the list - hello.

2006-05-16 Thread catatonya
Elizabeth,I think if your other cats are vaccinated they are either fine, or possibly already positive. Being with an felv cat at this point won't make a difference if they've been vaccinated. Lots of times people test as kittens and get a negative result and vaccinate. Well, the cat was positive all along. It just didn't show because the kitten had been too recently exposed.Good luck. It sounds like you're doing everything you can. And I would do exactly the same as you've done. I've been on the list around 10 years now tootonya[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  I'm sorry this is so long
 - but it's my first post but I feel I need to give some background information in the hope that some of you with more experience may have recommendations. First and foremost - thank you for being here...and to you who are going through the pain of having a catfamily member suffer with this disease or who have lost someone close - my heart is with you.Monday I noticed that a member of my cat family had a distinctly visible nictating membrane on both eyes - nearly half way closed on one side. The next morning, I took her to my vet's office. On a gut feeling, I asked them to test her for FeVL. Although she had been vaccinated a little over a year ago, she tested positive. The vet and the vet tech gently prodded me to make a 'quality of life' decision that day. She had lost about 14% of her body weight and didn't have enough of an immune system to run a fever.(She
 was initiallya feral cat who adopted me two years ago and blessedme with 12 kittens. My vet saidthat was a record)Iam notready to say goodbye - she will let me know when it is time. Right now she's not feeling that great (anemia) but sheseems to have a decentquality of life. She ran up the steps to greet me the next day with tail straight up in the air. I don't want to selfishly keep her going just for me if she is truly suffering but myheart says it isn't time.I asked if there was anything that would make her more comfortable. They gaveher ammoxi dropsand 'Pet Tinic' to build her blood. I told them toexpect me to have a lot of questions and they were very understanding. Itook offwork the rest of the day...came home and did my research. That's when I
 found the Felineleukemia.org website. Thanks totheinformation provided, I found out about Acemannan - a drug my veterinarian had never heard about. I tracked down the manufacturer and distributors and sent my vet a lot of information about it and asked if this would be a reasonable course of treatment and if he would assist me. My vet was also able to find information about this drug and he got it here in 2 days. We began treatment yesterday.Since my vet is not familiar with this drug - he told me that he really didn't know what to expect in terms of how she would feel after the shot so I've been watching her closely. It may be a coincidence but since she got the shot - she's been eating more than I've seen her eat in a while. For days I've been trying to get her to eat a teaspoon of canned foodseveral times a day without muchsuccess and she wouldn't
 touch her dry food. Yesterday after her first treatment, she ate dry food and also about half a can of canned food. I'm trying not to have false hope but I couldn't help but be encouraged.All the kids hereeat 'Chicken Soup for the Cat Lover's Soul' cat food. I have a feeling that nutrition is going to play a huge role inhelping her to copewith thisand so I am currently looking for diet and supplementation information too.I'm trying to keep a level head - which isn't easy when it's your baby - and I know and accept that realistically, the oddsmay not bein our favor...but I believe I would be remiss if I didn't try. One concern is that this is an eight cat household. Entirely too many cats..but that is another story.While this number will not increase - giving up even one is not an option. They live inside.
 Everyone elsehas been vaccinated and is in good health. MK is in the habit of being outside in the day and inside at night...but she doesn't leave the yard (truly an extraordinary cat person). Since she's been sick though - I've been keeping her inside except for brief periods in the afternoon when she wants to sunbathe on the front porch. I am concerned about infecting the other indoor cats who range in age from 2-7.Any information or recommendation would be most welcome.Thank you,  elizabeth  

Re: New to the list - hello / Re: To Elizabeth

2006-05-15 Thread ETrent




Thank you so much to everyone who responded to my first post. The 
encouragement means everything to me. Wendy, I would definitely like to 
have a copy of the manual - thank you.

Acemannan is an Aloe Vera derivative. It is manufactured by 
Vererinary Products Laboratories. Here is a link to the information about 
this drug on their website:

Veterinary 
Products Laboratories 
(http://www.vpl.com/product.php?catmain=mainkey=pid=80key=carravetcat=Wound%20Management)

The drug has been approved and there have been some studiesconcerning 
the efficacy of this drug. There are other applications of this drug 
aswell. The VPL website also has a link to 
distributors.The treatment for FeVLis ashot once a week 
in the tummy (but only under the skin). A typical course of 
treatmentis six weeks. 

This article was encouraging to me (although I am leery of articles by 
companies selling products):

FELINE LEUKEMIA VIRUS - 
TREATED WITH ALOE VERA (ACEMANNAN) 
(http://www.aloevera.co.uk/felinelv.htm)

All of MK's (Mama Kitty)kittens who have been tested have been 
negative. One of my cats, Tori, was the runt of her litter and is she is 
healthy and doing very well. A little over a year agoMK did get a 
very bad bite near the base of her tail which abscessed and required 
surgery. I can't help but wonder if this isn't how she acquired this 
disease. 

From what I've been able to determine, the nearest holistic veterinarian is 
about a 90 minute drive one way (same for a veterinary specialist). I don't know 
anything about that person and it may not be practical to make the drive. 
I was, however, able to find an interesting website that you may already be 
familiar with called 'Only Natural Pet Store':

Only Natural Pet Store - Dogs Cats 
Holistic Supplies Products Food Treats Vitamins Medicine Supplements 
(http://www.onlynaturalpet.com/)

From there I've ordered some 'New Life Colostrum Plus' for MKand the 
'Only Natural Pet Super Daily Feline Multi-Vitamin  Mineral' supplement for 
all of my cats. They have an interesting range of products there.

I got disgusted with Science Diet ayear or two agoand that is 
when I started having 'Chicken Soup for the Cat Lover's Soul' delivered here 
every month - as that product is not available where I live. The 
ingredients seem to be very high quality and the kids do like it. I've 
been checking out the Innova too since it's been mentioned here and it also has 
a very good ingredient list. The company that delivers the 
CSCLSalsohas that product available. I really appreciate all 
the good tips and insight.

Since we started the Acemannan on Friday and haven't missed a dose of 
ammoxi drops or pet tinic...MK is much perkier. I don't know if this is 
due to the treatment or due to the unpredictable nature of the disease but I am 
hopeful. She's eating much better than she was before and just seems to 
sparkle when she 'talks'. I'm making everyeffort to sterilize water 
and food bowls more frequently and washing bedding more often in very hot water 
just in case it will be beneficial. 

I've used ImmunoRegulin on the man of the house, Phelix, for his 
allergies. The shots were very reasonable - I'll discuss this with my vet 
when I return.

I'll keep you all posted on how this treatment goes. Thank you all 
again for the encouragement, insight, and stories of your own experiences. 
I've only been here a day or two but I already believe I have gained some 
valuable information.



Re: New to the list - hello / Re: To Elizabeth

2006-05-15 Thread Marylyn



Where are you located 
(generally)? Some of us may know a closer holistic vet. I understand 
the distance problem. The one I use is over 3 hours away. Dixie 
doesn't see her very often--maybe every couple of months--and Betty is always 
available if I need to check something out over the phone. She has Dixie 
on some drops (sorry, I forget what all she put together for her a long time 
ago) which seem to be keeping the virus at bay. 

Good luck.








 
If you have men who will exclude any of God's 
creatures 
from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who 
 
will deal likewise with their fellow 
man. 
St. Francis

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  
  Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 2:16 PM
  Subject: Re: New to the list - hello / 
  Re: To Elizabeth
  
  
  Thank you so much to everyone who responded to my first post. The 
  encouragement means everything to me. Wendy, I would definitely like to 
  have a copy of the manual - thank you.
  
  Acemannan is an Aloe Vera derivative. It is manufactured by 
  Vererinary Products Laboratories. Here is a link to the information 
  about this drug on their website:
  
  Veterinary 
  Products Laboratories 
  (http://www.vpl.com/product.php?catmain=mainkey=pid=80key=carravetcat=Wound%20Management)
  
  The drug has been approved and there have been some 
  studiesconcerning the efficacy of this drug. There are other 
  applications of this drug aswell. The VPL website also has a link 
  to distributors.The treatment for FeVLis ashot once a 
  week in the tummy (but only under the skin). A typical course of 
  treatmentis six weeks. 
  
  This article was encouraging to me (although I am leery of articles by 
  companies selling products):
  
  FELINE LEUKEMIA VIRUS - 
  TREATED WITH ALOE VERA (ACEMANNAN) 
  (http://www.aloevera.co.uk/felinelv.htm)
  
  All of MK's (Mama Kitty)kittens who have been tested have been 
  negative. One of my cats, Tori, was the runt of her litter and is she is 
  healthy and doing very well. A little over a year agoMK did get a 
  very bad bite near the base of her tail which abscessed and required 
  surgery. I can't help but wonder if this isn't how she acquired this 
  disease. 
  
  From what I've been able to determine, the nearest holistic veterinarian 
  is about a 90 minute drive one way (same for a veterinary specialist). I don't 
  know anything about that person and it may not be practical to make the 
  drive. I was, however, able to find an interesting website that you may 
  already be familiar with called 'Only Natural Pet Store':
  
  Only Natural Pet Store - Dogs 
  Cats Holistic Supplies Products Food Treats Vitamins Medicine Supplements 
  
  (http://www.onlynaturalpet.com/)
  
  From there I've ordered some 'New Life Colostrum Plus' for MKand 
  the 'Only Natural Pet Super Daily Feline Multi-Vitamin  Mineral' 
  supplement for all of my cats. They have an interesting range of 
  products there.
  
  I got disgusted with Science Diet ayear or two agoand that is 
  when I started having 'Chicken Soup for the Cat Lover's Soul' delivered here 
  every month - as that product is not available where I live. The 
  ingredients seem to be very high quality and the kids do like it. I've 
  been checking out the Innova too since it's been mentioned here and it also 
  has a very good ingredient list. The company that delivers the 
  CSCLSalsohas that product available. I really appreciate all 
  the good tips and insight.
  
  Since we started the Acemannan on Friday and haven't missed a dose of 
  ammoxi drops or pet tinic...MK is much perkier. I don't know if this is 
  due to the treatment or due to the unpredictable nature of the disease but I 
  am hopeful. She's eating much better than she was before and just seems 
  to sparkle when she 'talks'. I'm making everyeffort to sterilize 
  water and food bowls more frequently and washing bedding more often in very 
  hot water just in case it will be beneficial. 
  
  I've used ImmunoRegulin on the man of the house, Phelix, for his 
  allergies. The shots were very reasonable - I'll discuss this with my 
  vet when I return.
  
  I'll keep you all posted on how this treatment goes. Thank you all 
  again for the encouragement, insight, and stories of your own 
  experiences. I've only been here a day or two but I already believe I 
  have gained some valuable information.
  


New to the list - hello.

2006-05-13 Thread ETrent



I'm sorry this is so long - but it's my first post but I feel I need to 
give some background information in the hope that some of you with more 
experience may have recommendations. First and foremost - thank you for 
being here...and to you who are going through the pain of having a 
catfamily member suffer with this disease or who have lost someone close - 
my heart is with you.

Monday I noticed that a member of my cat family had a distinctly visible 
nictating membrane on both eyes - nearly half way closed on one side. The 
next morning, I took her to my vet's office. On a gut feeling, I asked 
them to test her for FeVL. Although she had been vaccinated a little over 
a year ago, she tested positive. The vet and the vet tech gently 
prodded me to make a 'quality of life' decision that day. She had lost 
about 14% of her body weight and didn't have enough of an immune system to run a 
fever.

(She was initiallya feral cat who adopted me two years ago and 
blessedme with 12 kittens. My vet saidthat was a record)

Iam notready to say goodbye - she will let me know when it is 
time. Right now she's not feeling that great (anemia) but sheseems 
to have a decentquality of life. She ran up the steps to greet me 
the next day with tail straight up in the air. I don't want to selfishly 
keep her going just for me if she is truly suffering but myheart says it 
isn't time.

I asked if there was anything that would make her more comfortable. 
They gaveher ammoxi dropsand 'Pet Tinic' to build her blood. I 
told them toexpect me to have a lot of questions and they were very 
understanding. 

Itook offwork the rest of the day...came home and did my 
research. That's when I found the Felineleukemia.org website. Thanks 
totheinformation provided, I found out about Acemannan - a drug my 
veterinarian had never heard about. I tracked down the manufacturer and 
distributors and sent my vet a lot of information about it and asked if this 
would be a reasonable course of treatment and if he would assist me. 


My vet was also able to find information about this drug and he got it here 
in 2 days. We began treatment yesterday.

Since my vet is not familiar with this drug - he told me that he really 
didn't know what to expect in terms of how she would feel after the shot so I've 
been watching her closely. It may be a coincidence but since she got the 
shot - she's been eating more than I've seen her eat in a while. For days 
I've been trying to get her to eat a teaspoon of canned foodseveral times 
a day without muchsuccess and she wouldn't touch her dry food. 
Yesterday after her first treatment, she ate dry food and also about half a can 
of canned food. I'm trying not to have false hope but I couldn't help but 
be encouraged.All the kids hereeat 'Chicken Soup for the Cat 
Lover's Soul' cat food. I have a feeling that nutrition is going to play a 
huge role inhelping her to copewith thisand so I am currently 
looking for diet and supplementation information too.

I'm trying to keep a level head - which isn't easy when it's your baby - 
and I know and accept that realistically, the oddsmay not bein our 
favor...but I believe I would be remiss if I didn't try. 

One concern is that this is an eight cat household. Entirely too many 
cats..but that is another story.While this number will not increase 
- giving up even one is not an option. They live inside. Everyone 
elsehas been vaccinated and is in good health. MK is in the habit of 
being outside in the day and inside at night...but she doesn't leave the yard 
(truly an extraordinary cat person). Since she's been sick though - I've 
been keeping her inside except for brief periods in the afternoon when she wants 
to sunbathe on the front porch. I am concerned about infecting the other 
indoor cats who range in age from 2-7.

Any information or recommendation would be most welcome.

Thank you,
elizabeth







Re: New to the list - hello.

2006-05-13 Thread Lernermichelle



Hi. Sounds like you are doing good things. I would heartily recommend 
that you use Immuno-Regulin. There are articles about it on the website. I 
personally had very good luck with it for upper respiratory infections, and 
someone on this list used it for anemia in a severely anemic cat (transfusion 
level anemic) a month ago and the cat seems ok now. I think her cat, Chelsea, 
has had 6 doses of it over the past month.
Michelle


Re: New to the list - hello.

2006-05-13 Thread Lance

Hi Elizabeth,

I'm sorry that you and your cat (MK?) are going through this, but it  
does sound like you're doing the right things. I think you should  
consider testing and vaccinating the other cats. I'd definitely test  
everyone, but the vax part is a bit more iffy. You won't deal with  
that decision until the other felines come back as negatives. If it's  
possible to isolate MK without too much stress to her and everyone  
else, that might also be something to consider as a temporary measure  
until you figure out the status of the other cats.


Nutrition is important, and Chicken Soup... seems to be a pretty  
good brand of food. My FeLV+ girl has been on their dry food and on  
Innova EVO canned. We'll probably be going to an all Innova EVO diet  
this weekend or early next week (our Chicken Soup... is about to  
run out). My Ember is also on Transfer Factor (the feline version),  
and while I don't know if it's helping anything yet (she has not  
begun to show symptoms yet), it doesn't seem like it could hurt.


I'll be interested to hear more about what you see happening with the  
Acemannan. It sounds like it's helping out your girl. My vet doesn't  
seem to think much of it, but I was also pretty interested in it.  
We're using low dose human interferon (1cc/day; 5 days on/5 days  
off). Ember tolerates it just fine, and it is non-invasive. Before  
she realizes that anything is going on, we've gotten the interferon  
down her throat, and she'll often just stay cradled in my arms for  
half a minute afterwards.


Please keep coming back here with any questions you have, and keep us  
updated on how your feline family members are doing. Take care.



Lance



Re: New to the list - hello.

2006-05-13 Thread Marylyn



First, don't let yourself be talked 
into killing her just because someone else has quality of life issues. You 
and she will know if and when it is time for her to leave this world with 
help. She may do like Kitty Katt and leave on her own. And that may 
be years and years from now. When Kitty was diagnosed with cancer the 
experts expected her to live a very few monthsshe lived 15 months and 
the quality of life was wonderful until the last 2-3 weeks. 
Listen to your heart and trust her to help you. She will. 


Dixie Louise Doodle was diagnosed 
with FeLV + a year ago. She is also just fine. We are having minor 
tooth problems but nothing you would not expect from a cat who was thrown away 
and lived pretty much on her own for several months. Given Kitty and 
Dixie I strongly suggest you forget about odds. The odds of being killed 
crossing a street are very small--unless you are the person killed then the odds 
are 100%. Concentrate on loving and caring for all your cats. Enjoy 
every minute with them (ok, almost every minute--sometimes it is hard). 


I like EVO myself and so does my 
holistic vet-by the way, holistic vets are great with FeLV+. I don't 
know where you are but my holistic vet is E A Boswell in Louisville KY. 
She has treated two of my dogs and two cats. She has definitely improved 
their lives and mine.

Good luck. 





 
If you have men who will exclude any of God's 
creatures 
from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who 
 
will deal likewise with their fellow 
man. 
St. Francis

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  
  Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2006 9:50 
AM
  Subject: New to the list - hello.
  
  I'm sorry this is so long - but it's my first post but I feel I need to 
  give some background information in the hope that some of you with more 
  experience may have recommendations. First and foremost - thank you for 
  being here...and to you who are going through the pain of having a 
  catfamily member suffer with this disease or who have lost someone close 
  - my heart is with you.
  
  Monday I noticed that a member of my cat family had a distinctly visible 
  nictating membrane on both eyes - nearly half way closed on one side. 
  The next morning, I took her to my vet's office. On a gut feeling, I 
  asked them to test her for FeVL. Although she had been vaccinated a 
  little over a year ago, she tested positive. The vet and the vet 
  tech gently prodded me to make a 'quality of life' decision that day. 
  She had lost about 14% of her body weight and didn't have enough of an immune 
  system to run a fever.
  
  (She was initiallya feral cat who adopted me two years ago and 
  blessedme with 12 kittens. My vet saidthat was a 
  record)
  
  Iam notready to say goodbye - she will let me know when it is 
  time. Right now she's not feeling that great (anemia) but sheseems 
  to have a decentquality of life. She ran up the steps to greet me 
  the next day with tail straight up in the air. I don't want to selfishly 
  keep her going just for me if she is truly suffering but myheart says it 
  isn't time.
  
  I asked if there was anything that would make her more comfortable. 
  They gaveher ammoxi dropsand 'Pet Tinic' to build her blood. 
  I told them toexpect me to have a lot of questions and they were very 
  understanding. 
  
  Itook offwork the rest of the day...came home and did my 
  research. That's when I found the Felineleukemia.org website. 
  Thanks totheinformation provided, I found out about Acemannan - a 
  drug my veterinarian had never heard about. I tracked down the 
  manufacturer and distributors and sent my vet a lot of information about it 
  and asked if this would be a reasonable course of treatment and if he would 
  assist me. 
  
  My vet was also able to find information about this drug and he got it 
  here in 2 days. We began treatment yesterday.
  
  Since my vet is not familiar with this drug - he told me that he really 
  didn't know what to expect in terms of how she would feel after the shot so 
  I've been watching her closely. It may be a coincidence but since she 
  got the shot - she's been eating more than I've seen her eat in a while. 
  For days I've been trying to get her to eat a teaspoon of canned 
  foodseveral times a day without muchsuccess and she wouldn't touch 
  her dry food. Yesterday after her first treatment, she ate dry food and 
  also about half a can of canned food. I'm trying not to have false hope 
  but I couldn't help but be encouraged.All the kids hereeat 
  'Chicken Soup for the Cat Lover's Soul' cat food. I have a feeling that 
  nutrition is going to play a huge role inhelping her to copewith 
  thisand so I am currently looking for diet and supplementation 
  information too.
  
  I'm trying to keep a level head - which isn't easy when it's your baby - 
  and I know and accept that realistically, the oddsmay not bein

Re: New to the list - hello.

2006-05-13 Thread Nina




Hi Elizabeth and welcome. I'm sorry your baby isn't feeling well and
has tested pos for felv. We've all been were you are right now and
understand how upset you must be. Of course you're not ready to say
goodbye! I'm so glad you are willing to fight for her! Take a deep
breath, there are things you can do to help her. If you've had MK for
two years, it doesn't make any sense to create added stress by
separating her from the rest of your cats, (imo). Feeding a good
supplemented quality diet and keeping the stress level low are the two
best ways to help keep her asymptomatic. If your other cats were going
to contract felv from her, they probably already have. You could have
them all tested for your peace of mind, or test them if they become
sick. Since MK doesn't venture from your backyard and doesn't have
contact with neighborhood cats, (felv is a "social" type disease, they
have to have direct contact with a carrier to become infected, she
wouldn't get it from the environment. "When it dries, it dies".),
chances are she's had it all along. Most healthy adult cats, esp if
vaccinated, either don't contract it when exposed, or have strong
enough immune responses to fight it off and clear the virus.

I have no experience with Acemannan, so I can't help you with that.
One thing I would strongly suggest is for you to find a board certified
Internist to help you. Felv is so darn unpredictable. It's not the
Felv itself that our kitties succumb to, it's the secondary illness and
cancers that take hold because their immune systems have been
compromised. Bolstering their immune response and treating any sign of
illness immediately are your best weapons. An Internist will be
knowledgeable in kitty diseases and you won't waste time with GP vets
that would have to refer you to a specialist at some point anyway.

If she's showing symptoms of anemia, pale gums, licking concrete,
lethargy etc, you need to find out what the reason for the anemia is
and treat for that. The abx that your vet prescribed isn't a broad
spectrum, it may or may not help. Have you run blood tests? Has she
been tested for blood parasites? My Grace had problems with anemia and
even though the Hemobartinella, (blood parasites), test came back
negative my Internist was intuitive enough to put her on Doxycycline
anyway, it saved her life more than once.

I'm sure you'll get lots of great advice from the group. Weekends are
notoriously slow for us. Hang in there and post as many times as you
like about anything at all that you feel like talking about. This is
the nicest, best informed group of people you'll ever run across. I'm
so glad you found us. Keep your chin up and give your babies a head
bump from me.

One other thing... You mentioned that MK had a litter of 12 kittens.
Do you have contact with any of them? If she has been infected since
you got her, she very well may have passed the felv on to her babies
invitro. You might want to contact anyone that you can and tell them
about her status.
Nina

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
  
  
  I'm sorry this is so long - but it's my first post but I feel I
need to give some background information in the hope that some of you
with more experience may have recommendations. First and foremost -
thank you for being here...and to you who are going through the pain of
having a catfamily member suffer with this disease or who have lost
someone close - my heart is with you.
  
  Monday I noticed that a member of my cat family had a distinctly
visible nictating membrane on both eyes - nearly half way closed on one
side. The next morning, I took her to my vet's office. On a gut
feeling, I asked them to test her for FeVL. Although she had been
vaccinated a little over a year ago, she tested positive. The vet and
the vet tech gently prodded me to make a 'quality of life' decision
that day. She had lost about 14% of her body weight and didn't have
enough of an immune system to run a fever.
  
  (She was initiallya feral cat who adopted me two years ago and
blessedme with 12 kittens. My vet saidthat was a record)
  
  Iam notready to say goodbye - she will let me know when it is
time. Right now she's not feeling that great (anemia) but sheseems to
have a decentquality of life. She ran up the steps to greet me the
next day with tail straight up in the air. I don't want to selfishly
keep her going just for me if she is truly suffering but myheart says
it isn't time.
  
  I asked if there was anything that would make her more
comfortable. They gaveher ammoxi dropsand 'Pet Tinic' to build her
blood. I told them toexpect me to have a lot of questions and they
were very understanding. 
  
  Itook offwork the rest of the day...came home and did my
research. That's when I found the Felineleukemia.org website. Thanks
totheinformation provided, I found out about Acemannan - a drug my
veterinarian had never heard about. I tracked down the manufacturer
and distributors and sent my vet a lot of information about it and
asked if