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Susan, You've said it exactly. I think that dog people like the attention and companionship. I love dogs as well as cats, but cats give us more freedom (well, not with the checkbook), plus we're just cat-people. Like Caroline pointed out, there are many many dog people, but most people I meet don't like cats at all. Why? I haven't figured that one out. Stereotypes? Misconceptions? Idiocy? Not really sure. The pit bull abuses reminds me of The Dog Whisperer on Discovery or TLC or whatever. Cesar Millan is so good at showing that most dogs can be rehabilitated, but in most instances it's the humans that need the rehabilitation, not the dogs. The plight of pit bulls in our country is very sad and depressing. They are certainly the most misunderstood and mistreated of dogs (up there with racing dogs). Plus many people mistake other breeds for pit bulls, not even understanding what a pit bull actually is-they just equate them with any tough, muscular dog with a stocky stature. Enough ranting-I'm done with dogs for today. It's a happy day-our central air should be fixed today after being broken for 3 weeks in 90-degree weather! The babies will be so happy! I'll be happy to play with them again, and get back to normal! But living without air conditioning helped us see how truly spoiled we are, and how much we take for granted. Melissa _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Dubose Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 9:16 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: OT: Severely OT, dog fights and NFL player it was always so funny when I worked @ the AHS. The difference between the dog volunteers / walkers the cat volunteers... Dog people seem to really dislike cats, and they needed to have something that wants to please them. Very important. The cat volunteers also liked dogs, but purrfurred cats. The cat people could also appreciate the free spirit of a cat, as opposed to the neediness of a dog. And dogs that do not respect the pack order in the home environment can be considered unadoptable, unfortunately, due to the fact that they will challenge the children. (And other things, to say the least). Can you tell I took a lot of behavioral classes and used to evaluate dogs for intake into our adoption program...? It was actually pretty sad, we would have to make sure the dogs were dummy proof. And Caroline, please do not measure yourself by what others have done, be happy that you are more evolved than most folks and that you are doing something to help, and that you know what is right what is wrong. Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From: Caroline Kaufmann mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 8:31 PM Subject: Re: OT: Severely OT, dog fights and NFL player The Humane Society is overseeing the care for the 52 seized dogs. I fear that some will have to be put down due to injuries and illness. But there has got to be some kind of rehabilitation that is done on the dogs that are not ill/injured beyond repair. Also, I try not to know too much about pit bull fighting because it's too hard for me to stomach...but some females are used just for breeding, so I should think some of the would be salvageable. Again, if you can, log onto the Humane Society's website and you can donate an amount that will be used to help these actual seized dogs. I guess this is just a reminder that our work is never done. Even if you don't do dog rescues or you aren't a dog person, it's still important to give what you can...and even more so, to call attention to this matter to the people out there who are dog people! I think in my whole life I have met way too many people who AREN'T cat people and that has always made me sad, but I can count on only one hand the people that claimed to not be dog people. Thus, I feel like if you take the time to get the word out, there's no end to the positive results that could come from that just because of the shear numbers of people who are willing to stand up against cruel treatment of dogs. All of you people have done more than me for animals and it amazes me the work that each of you do. You all have really inspired me. So this is just a reminder to keep fighting the good fightfor any creature that can't defend itself against human monsters. -Caroline place! http://g.msn.com/8HMBENUS/2737??PS=47575
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for 3 weeks in 90-degree weather! The babies will be so happy! I'll be happy to play with them again, and get back to normal! But living without air conditioning helped us see how truly spoiled we are, and how much we take for granted. Melissa _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Dubose Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 9:16 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: OT: Severely OT, dog fights and NFL player it was always so funny when I worked @ the AHS. The difference between the dog volunteers / walkers the cat volunteers... Dog people seem to really dislike cats, and they needed to have something that wants to please them. Very important. The cat volunteers also liked dogs, but purrfurred cats. The cat people could also appreciate the free spirit of a cat, as opposed to the neediness of a dog. And dogs that do not respect the pack order in the home environment can be considered unadoptable, unfortunately, due to the fact that they will challenge the children. (And other things, to say the least). Can you tell I took a lot of behavioral classes and used to evaluate dogs for intake into our adoption program...? It was actually pretty sad, we would have to make sure the dogs were dummy proof. And Caroline, please do not measure yourself by what others have done, be happy that you are more evolved than most folks and that you are doing something to help, and that you know what is right what is wrong. Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From: Caroline Kaufmann mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 8:31 PM Subject: Re: OT: Severely OT, dog fights and NFL player The Humane Society is overseeing the care for the 52 seized dogs. I fear that some will have to be put down due to injuries and illness. But there has got to be some kind of rehabilitation that is done on the dogs that are not ill/injured beyond repair. Also, I try not to know too much about pit bull fighting because it's too hard for me to stomach...but some females are used just for breeding, so I should think some of the would be salvageable. Again, if you can, log onto the Humane Society's website and you can donate an amount that will be used to help these actual seized dogs. I guess this is just a reminder that our work is never done. Even if you don't do dog rescues or you aren't a dog person, it's still important to give what you can...and even more so, to call attention to this matter to the people out there who are dog people! I think in my whole life I have met way too many people who AREN'T cat people and that has always made me sad, but I can count on only one hand the people that claimed to not be dog people. Thus, I feel like if you take the time to get the word out, there's no end to the positive results that could come from that just because of the shear numbers of people who are willing to stand up against cruel treatment of dogs. All of you people have done more than me for animals and it amazes me the === message truncated === Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=listsid=396545433
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I have also noticed that in my dog clients, they always make a point of telling me how much they dislike cats. Especially the clients w/ purebreds. I just bite my tongue, of course. The cat clients seem to be more compassionate about ALL animals. And hey, I can bite my tongue w/ a dog lover as long as they are forking over good money to me to care for their dogs, especially when a good chunk of that money helps w/ my cat programs :) I always tell my cats what a whore their mother is, espeically when I do overnights for a dog client. I tell them I have to sleep w/ dogs to keep them in the comfortable style they are accustoomed to. Little money sponges, they are... :) Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From: Melissa Lind To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 8:06 AM Subject: RE: OT: Severely OT, dog fights and NFL player Susan, You've said it exactly. I think that dog people like the attention and companionship. I love dogs as well as cats, but cats give us more freedom (well, not with the checkbook), plus we're just cat-people. Like Caroline pointed out, there are many many dog people, but most people I meet don't like cats at all. Why? I haven't figured that one out. Stereotypes? Misconceptions? Idiocy? Not really sure. The pit bull abuses reminds me of The Dog Whisperer on Discovery or TLC or whatever. Cesar Millan is so good at showing that most dogs can be rehabilitated, but in most instances it's the humans that need the rehabilitation, not the dogs. The plight of pit bulls in our country is very sad and depressing. They are certainly the most misunderstood and mistreated of dogs (up there with racing dogs). Plus many people mistake other breeds for pit bulls, not even understanding what a pit bull actually is-they just equate them with any tough, muscular dog with a stocky stature. Enough ranting-I'm done with dogs for today. It's a happy day-our central air should be fixed today after being broken for 3 weeks in 90-degree weather! The babies will be so happy! I'll be happy to play with them again, and get back to normal! But living without air conditioning helped us see how truly spoiled we are, and how much we take for granted. Melissa -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Dubose Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 9:16 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: OT: Severely OT, dog fights and NFL player it was always so funny when I worked @ the AHS. The difference between the dog volunteers / walkers the cat volunteers... Dog people seem to really dislike cats, and they needed to have something that wants to please them. Very important. The cat volunteers also liked dogs, but purrfurred cats. The cat people could also appreciate the free spirit of a cat, as opposed to the neediness of a dog. And dogs that do not respect the pack order in the home environment can be considered unadoptable, unfortunately, due to the fact that they will challenge the children. (And other things, to say the least). Can you tell I took a lot of behavioral classes and used to evaluate dogs for intake into our adoption program...? It was actually pretty sad, we would have to make sure the dogs were dummy proof. And Caroline, please do not measure yourself by what others have done, be happy that you are more evolved than most folks and that you are doing something to help, and that you know what is right what is wrong. Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From: Caroline Kaufmann To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 8:31 PM Subject: Re: OT: Severely OT, dog fights and NFL player The Humane Society is overseeing the care for the 52 seized dogs. I fear that some will have to be put down due to injuries and illness. But there has got to be some kind
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toomuch...Which reminds me: DO SOMETHING NICE TODAY FOR ADOG! Later, Glenda--- Melissa Lind [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Susan, You've said it exactly. I think that dog people like the attention and companionship. I love dogs as well as cats, but cats give us more freedom (well, not with the checkbook), plus we're just cat-people. Like Caroline pointed out, there are many many dog people, but most people I meet don't like cats at all. Why? I haven't figured that one out. Stereotypes? Misconceptions? Idiocy? Not really sure. The pit bull abuses reminds me of The Dog Whisperer on Discovery or TLC or whatever. Cesar Millan is so good at showing that most dogs can be rehabilitated, but in most instances it's the humans that need the rehabilitation, not the dogs. The plight of pit bulls in our country is very sad and depressing. They are certainly the most misunderstood and mistreated of dogs (up there with racing dogs). Plus many people mistake other breeds for pit bulls, not even understanding what a pit bull actually is-they just equate them with any tough, muscular dog with a stocky stature. Enough ranting-I'm done with dogs for today. It's a happy day-our central air should be fixed today after being broken for 3 weeks in 90-degree weather! The babies will be so happy! I'll be happy to play with them again, and get back to normal! But living without air conditioning helped us see how truly spoiled we are, and how much we take for granted. Melissa _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Dubose Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 9:16 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: OT: Severely OT, dog fights and NFL player it was always so funny when I worked @ the AHS. The difference between the "dog" volunteers / walkers the "cat" volunteers... Dog people seem to really dislike cats, and they needed to have something that "wants to please them". Very important. The cat volunteers also liked dogs, but purrfurred cats. The cat people could also appreciate the free spirit of a cat, as opposed to the "neediness" of a dog. And dogs that do not respect the "pack order" in the home environment can be considered unadoptable, unfortunately, due to the fact that they will challenge the children. (And other things, to say the least). Can you tell I took a lot of behavioral classes and used to evaluate dogs for intake into our adoption program...? It was actually pretty sad, we would have to make sure the dogs were "dummy proof". And Caroline, please do not measure yourself by what others have done, be happy that you are more evolved than most folks and that you are doing something to help, and that you know what is right what is wrong. Susan J. DuBose^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net "As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws." Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From: Caroline Kaufmann mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 8:31 PM Subject: Re: OT: Severely OT, dog fights and NFL player The Humane Society is overseeing the care for the 52 seized dogs.I fear that some will have to be put down due to injuries and illness.But there has got to be some kind of rehabilitation that is done on the dogs that are not ill/injured beyond repair.Also, I try not to know too much about pit bull fighting because it's too hard for me to stomach...but some females are used just for breeding, so I should think some of the would be salvageable. Again, if you can, log onto the Humane Society's website and you can donate an amount that will be used to help these actual seized dogs. I guess this is just a reminder that our work is never done.Even if you don't do dog rescues or you aren't a "dog person," it's still important to give what you can...and even more so, to call attention to this matter to the people out there who are dog people!I think in my whole life I have met way too many people who AREN'T cat people and that has always made me sad, but I can count on only one hand the people that claimed to not be dog people.Thus, I feel like if you take the time to get the word out, there's no end to the positive results that could come from that just because of the shear numbers of people who are willing to stand up against cruel treatment of dogs. All of you people have done more than me for animals and it amazes me the === message truncated ===Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out.h
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I have also noticed that in my dog clients, they always make a point of telling me how much they dislike cats. Especially the clients w/ purebreds. I just bite my tongue, of course. The cat clients seem to be more compassionate about ALL animals. And hey, I can bite my tongue w/ a dog lover as long as they are forking over good money to me to care for their dogs, especially when a good chunk of that money helps w/ my cat programs :) I always tell my cats what a whore their mother is, espeically when I do overnights for a dog client. I tell them I have to sleep w/ dogs to keep them in the comfortable style they are accustoomed to. Little money sponges, they are... :) Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From: Melissa Lind To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 8:06 AM Subject: RE: OT: Severely OT, dog fights and NFL player Susan, You've said it exactly. I think that dog people like the attention and companionship. I love dogs as well as cats, but cats give us more freedom (well, not with the checkbook), plus we're just cat-people. Like Caroline pointed out, there are many many dog people, but most people I meet don't like cats at all. Why? I haven't figured that one out. Stereotypes? Misconceptions? Idiocy? Not really sure. The pit bull abuses reminds me of The Dog Whisperer on Discovery or TLC or whatever. Cesar Millan is so good at showing that most dogs can be rehabilitated, but in most instances it's the humans that need the rehabilitation, not the dogs. The plight of pit bulls in our country is very sad and depressing. They are certainly the most misunderstood and mistreated of dogs (up there with racing dogs). Plus many people mistake other breeds for pit bulls, not even understanding what a pit bull actually is-they just equate them with any tough, muscular dog with a stocky stature. Enough ranting-I'm done with dogs for today. It's a happy day-our central air should be fixed today after being broken for 3 weeks in 90-degree weather! The babies will be so happy! I'll be happy to play with them again, and get back to normal! But living without air conditioning helped us see how truly spoiled we are, and how much we take for granted. Melissa
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LOLOLOL... Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: Susan Dubose [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 10:22:29 AM Subject: Re: OT: Severely OT, dog fights and NFL player I have also noticed that in my dog clients, they always make a point of telling me how much they dislike cats. Especially the clients w/ purebreds. I just bite my tongue, of course. The cat clients seem to be more compassionate about ALL animals. And hey, I can bite my tongue w/ a dog lover as long as they are forking over good money to me to care for their dogs, especially when a good chunk of that money helps w/ my cat programs :) I always tell my cats what a whore their mother is, espeically when I do overnights for a dog client. I tell them I have to sleep w/ dogs to keep them in the comfortable style they are accustoomed to. Little money sponges, they are... :) Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From: Melissa Lind To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 8:06 AM Subject: RE: OT: Severely OT, dog fights and NFL player Susan, You’ve said it exactly. I think that dog people like the attention and companionship. I love dogs as well as cats, but cats give us more freedom (well, not with the checkbook), plus we’re just cat-people. Like Caroline pointed out, there are many many dog people, but most people I meet don’t like cats at all. Why? I haven’t figured that one out. Stereotypes? Misconceptions? Idiocy? Not really sure… The pit bull abuses reminds me of The Dog Whisperer on Discovery or TLC or whatever. Cesar Millan is so good at showing that most dogs can be rehabilitated, but in most instances it’s the humans that need the rehabilitation, not the dogs. The plight of pit bulls in our country is very sad and depressing. They are certainly the most misunderstood and mistreated of dogs (up there with racing dogs). Plus many people mistake other breeds for pit bulls, not even understanding what a pit bull actually is—they just equate them with any tough, muscular dog with a stocky stature. Enough ranting—I’m done with dogs for today. It’s a happy day—our central air should be fixed today after being broken for 3 weeks in 90-degree weather! The babies will be so happy! I’ll be happy to play with them again, and get back to normal! But living without air conditioning helped us see how truly spoiled we are, and how much we take for granted. Melissa Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. http://get.games.yahoo.com/proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow
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Caroline, You are just such a thoughtful, nice person...Now , I wonder could it be from how you were raised? Anyway, I think it is a healthy subject to get on, as it is great hearing other people's take on these things...I know I have absorbed a couple new lines of thought on this subject, just by reading the experiences/opinions of others...never really observed the cat volunteers, the dog volunteers, but I certainly can see that now...why there are those two distinct groups out there... You know, the more we can learn, the more we can eventually share with others and if we can direct ourselves in a positive way, we can make the world a better place. It does seem to me ,especially for you Caroline, right now, all this interaction and flooding of ideas and information and positive approaches to things to help others, dogs at the moment, and even dogs not born yet is lovely. With what you have introduced to us,this subject of cat-lovers, dog-lovers is fantastic/interesting...Thanks. There are some people in this world that just give and give and I can see you are one of those...Actually, I feel that, the love, the give factor, in everyone in this group. I'm really happy I found you guys... Now, I must tend to my day...I do work and I do have cats to care for... and a hundred other things... However,isn't it nice to have a little mutual mission right now, where we can put some love towards helping those poor dogs, by making the actions of that Vick person reflect to society the ugly, evil, abomination that it really was...? Little boys, especially, should never admire someone who conducts himself in the fashion of Mr. Vick...This is why, he must experience absolute humiliation in the public light.We all want that to happen...right? As for the people who say, loudly and proudly, that they do not like cats...in a way it is all the same, just another form of disrespect for animals. It would be my guess, Mr. Vick started out in life thinking he hated cats and he simply was never taught or learned anything about what it is to feel the wonder, amazement and love for creatures, other than maybe humans, who share our world. Vick and his friends are the extreme result of little boys left unchecked...Certainly, they were all horrible to cats as children...so by doing what we are doing here, is helping cats too...something to think about... Later, Glenda --- Caroline Kaufmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - I think I inadvertently started this whole debate about dog-lovers vs. cat-lovers and I so didn't mean to do that! I just meant that, sadly, if you need to quickly draw attention to an animal plight that people need to rally behind, a lot of times, it's easier to do so when the plight involves dogs. I don't think that's right, but I have found it to be true. But, having been the daughter of a vet, no one in my family got to really have the choice between which animal we would prefer! We had to love them all...cats, dogs, pet mice that I saved from being fed to a rehabbing snake, a gerbil, more ring-necked doves than you can imagine, a baby rabbit, tons of injured song birds, an injured duck, an injured wild turkey, and even a baby mountain lion that my dad was rehabbing when he was the Zoo vet that lived at our house for a while. The list goes on... But yes, a lot of the caring and compassion for animals does come from exposure and experience. I feel bad for people who didn't have the opportunity to learn to take care of another creatureit's like a compassion chip is missing or something. -Caroline - From: glenda Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: OT: Severely OT, dog fights and NFL player Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 07:42:28 -0700 (PDT) Hi guys, I could not help but add my two cents here on the subject of people who are convinced, or announce openly that they do not like cats: I noticed early on, that the people who proudly state that they do not like cats,always speak from the aspect of misinformation on every level. THESE ARE PEOPLE THAT HAVE NEVER KNOW A CAT! it just occurred to me too, that these might be people who grew up torturing every cat they might have run across as a child, so their experience with any cat might have been negative...like imagine ,say farm cats kept only as mousers, being treated badly by a family...These cats might run and hide every time a human appeared...I just thought of that... Anyway, somewhere along the line, these individuals have probably been brainwashed into believing cats are only nice to you when they want something, while, if in the same sentence, they might proudly state, BUT, I DO LIKE DOGS, hoping to redeem themselves as sensitive individuals somehow, as well as pillars of character...They maybe watched too many Lassie films and believe dogs will stand by you until the end, no matter what ?Who
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A little insight was given to me by a hard core dog person. She told me that she just didn't like cats because of their attitude. Interesting. Now that's EXACTLY what I like about cats :) Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From: Melissa Lind To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 8:06 AM Subject: RE: OT: Severely OT, dog fights and NFL player Susan, You've said it exactly. I think that dog people like the attention and companionship. I love dogs as well as cats, but cats give us more freedom (well, not with the checkbook), plus we're just cat-people. Like Caroline pointed out, there are many many dog people, but most people I meet don't like cats at all. Why? I haven't figured that one out. Stereotypes? Misconceptions? Idiocy? Not really sure. The pit bull abuses reminds me of The Dog Whisperer on Discovery or TLC or whatever. Cesar Millan is so good at showing that most dogs can be rehabilitated, but in most instances it's the humans that need the rehabilitation, not the dogs. The plight of pit bulls in our country is very sad and depressing. They are certainly the most misunderstood and mistreated of dogs (up there with racing dogs). Plus many people mistake other breeds for pit bulls, not even understanding what a pit bull actually is-they just equate them with any tough, muscular dog with a stocky stature. Enough ranting-I'm done with dogs for today. It's a happy day-our central air should be fixed today after being broken for 3 weeks in 90-degree weather! The babies will be so happy! I'll be happy to play with them again, and get back to normal! But living without air conditioning helped us see how truly spoiled we are, and how much we take for granted. Melissa -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Dubose Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 9:16 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: OT: Severely OT, dog fights and NFL player it was always so funny when I worked @ the AHS. The difference between the dog volunteers / walkers the cat volunteers... Dog people seem to really dislike cats, and they needed to have something that wants to please them. Very important. The cat volunteers also liked dogs, but purrfurred cats. The cat people could also appreciate the free spirit of a cat, as opposed to the neediness of a dog. And dogs that do not respect the pack order in the home environment can be considered unadoptable, unfortunately, due to the fact that they will challenge the children. (And other things, to say the least). Can you tell I took a lot of behavioral classes and used to evaluate dogs for intake into our adoption program...? It was actually pretty sad, we would have to make sure the dogs were dummy proof. And Caroline, please do not measure yourself by what others have done, be happy that you are more evolved than most folks and that you are doing something to help, and that you know what is right what is wrong. Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From: Caroline Kaufmann To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 8:31 PM Subject: Re: OT: Severely OT, dog fights and NFL player The Humane Society is overseeing the care for the 52 seized dogs. I fear that some will have to be put down due to injuries and illness. But there has got to be some kind of rehabilitation that is done on the dogs that are not ill/injured beyond repair. Also, I try not to know too much about pit bull fighting because it's too hard for me to stomach...but some females are used just for breeding, so I should think some of the would be salvageable. Again, if you can, log onto the Humane Society's website and you can donate an amount that will be used to help these actual seized dogs. I guess this is just a reminder that our work is never done
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I know this is very OT, but I couldn't stop crying on the way to work this morning after hearing this on NPR. I'm very hormonal right now, but I think that this would make anyone livid. What is wrong with these people? What happened to them? I don't understand these actions which there aren't even strong enough words for. The story involved the NFL player Mick Vick and his involvement with dog fights. They found something like 70 dogs on his property used for fighting. There are many other atrocities that I can't even mention because I'll start crying again. But, here's the story if you want to listen: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=12056318 It makes me feel so helpless and angry and appalled and afraid. Melissa P.S. I'm so sorry this is OT (not even about cats), but I needed to let it out, and I didn't have anyone else to turn to but you guys. No one here at work would understand.
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Melissa, There is something you can do - See the PETA Take Action page Tell the Atlanta Falcons to Punt Animal Abusers off the Team! http://getactive.peta.org/campaign/afalcons_vick It IS incomprehensible on so many different levels, and should not be allowed to be white washed or brushed under the carpet. The fact that the officially released statement reads (in part) We are disappointed that one of our players -- and therefore the Falcons -- is being presented to the public in a negative way, and we apologize to our fans and the community for that. Note - they are NOT apologizing for the actions or the dogfights, just that it is being presented in a negative way!!! I don't ususally wish bad things for anyone, but in this case I do hope he gets the maximum fine AND imprisonment - and then some! Kat (Mew Jersey) On Wed, 18 Jul 2007, Melissa Lind wrote: Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 08:57:28 -0500 From: Melissa Lind [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: OT: Severely OT, dog fights and NFL player I know this is very OT, but I couldn't stop crying on the way to work this morning after hearing this on NPR. I'm very hormonal right now, but I think that this would make anyone livid. What is wrong with these people? What happened to them? I don't understand these actions which there aren't even strong enough words for. The story involved the NFL player Mick Vick and his involvement with dog fights. They found something like 70 dogs on his property used for fighting. There are many other atrocities that I can't even mention because I'll start crying again. But, here's the story if you want to listen: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=12056318 It makes me feel so helpless and angry and appalled and afraid. Melissa P.S. I'm so sorry this is OT (not even about cats), but I needed to let it out, and I didn't have anyone else to turn to but you guys. No one here at work would understand.
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Kat--dumb Q time. I'm signing the petition. Am I supposed to fill in the Arthur Blank CEO section? Why didn't PETA give his name--I assume it's a him. I don't want to send without making sure it goes to the right person. Thanks--Kerry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kat Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 10:17 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: OT: Severely OT, dog fights and NFL player Melissa, There is something you can do - See the PETA Take Action page Tell the Atlanta Falcons to Punt Animal Abusers off the Team! http://getactive.peta.org/campaign/afalcons_vick It IS incomprehensible on so many different levels, and should not be allowed to be white washed or brushed under the carpet. The fact that the officially released statement reads (in part) We are disappointed that one of our players -- and therefore the Falcons -- is being presented to the public in a negative way, and we apologize to our fans and the community for that. Note - they are NOT apologizing for the actions or the dogfights, just that it is being presented in a negative way!!! I don't ususally wish bad things for anyone, but in this case I do hope he gets the maximum fine AND imprisonment - and then some! Kat (Mew Jersey) On Wed, 18 Jul 2007, Melissa Lind wrote: Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 08:57:28 -0500 From: Melissa Lind [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: OT: Severely OT, dog fights and NFL player I know this is very OT, but I couldn't stop crying on the way to work this morning after hearing this on NPR. I'm very hormonal right now, but I think that this would make anyone livid. What is wrong with these people? What happened to them? I don't understand these actions which there aren't even strong enough words for. The story involved the NFL player Mick Vick and his involvement with dog fights. They found something like 70 dogs on his property used for fighting. There are many other atrocities that I can't even mention because I'll start crying again. But, here's the story if you want to listen: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=12056318 It makes me feel so helpless and angry and appalled and afraid. Melissa P.S. I'm so sorry this is OT (not even about cats), but I needed to let it out, and I didn't have anyone else to turn to but you guys. No one here at work would understand. IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayers should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor. This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
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Of course, I will sign too. Thanks, Glenda --- MacKenzie, Kerry N. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kat--dumb Q time. I'm signing the petition. Am I supposed to fill in the Arthur Blank CEO section? Why didn't PETA give his name--I assume it's a him. I don't want to send without making sure it goes to the right person. Thanks--Kerry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kat Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 10:17 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: OT: Severely OT, dog fights and NFL player Melissa, There is something you can do - See the PETA Take Action page Tell the Atlanta Falcons to Punt Animal Abusers off the Team! http://getactive.peta.org/campaign/afalcons_vick It IS incomprehensible on so many different levels, and should not be allowed to be white washed or brushed under the carpet. The fact that the officially released statement reads (in part) We are disappointed that one of our players -- and therefore the Falcons -- is being presented to the public in a negative way, and we apologize to our fans and the community for that. Note - they are NOT apologizing for the actions or the dogfights, just that it is being presented in a negative way!!! I don't ususally wish bad things for anyone, but in this case I do hope he gets the maximum fine AND imprisonment - and then some! Kat (Mew Jersey) On Wed, 18 Jul 2007, Melissa Lind wrote: Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 08:57:28 -0500 From: Melissa Lind [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: OT: Severely OT, dog fights and NFL player I know this is very OT, but I couldn't stop crying on the way to work this morning after hearing this on NPR. I'm very hormonal right now, but I think that this would make anyone livid. What is wrong with these people? What happened to them? I don't understand these actions which there aren't even strong enough words for. The story involved the NFL player Mick Vick and his involvement with dog fights. They found something like 70 dogs on his property used for fighting. There are many other atrocities that I can't even mention because I'll start crying again. But, here's the story if you want to listen: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=12056318 It makes me feel so helpless and angry and appalled and afraid. Melissa P.S. I'm so sorry this is OT (not even about cats), but I needed to let it out, and I didn't have anyone else to turn to but you guys. No one here at work would understand. IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayers should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor. This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. TV dinner still cooling? Check out Tonight's Picks on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/
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Hi Kerry, You're right - it is confusing. On the right hand side it says: Send this message to: * Arthur Blank, CEO So why they didn't put his name in the Dear [ Decision Maker ] is beyond me. Kat (Mew Jersey) On Wed, 18 Jul 2007, MacKenzie, Kerry N. wrote: Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 10:26:54 -0500 From: MacKenzie, Kerry N. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: OT: Severely OT, dog fights and NFL player for Kat Kat--dumb Q time. I'm signing the petition. Am I supposed to fill in the Arthur Blank CEO section? Why didn't PETA give his name--I assume it's a him. I don't want to send without making sure it goes to the right person. Thanks--Kerry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kat Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 10:17 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: OT: Severely OT, dog fights and NFL player Melissa, There is something you can do - See the PETA Take Action page Tell the Atlanta Falcons to Punt Animal Abusers off the Team! http://getactive.peta.org/campaign/afalcons_vick It IS incomprehensible on so many different levels, and should not be allowed to be white washed or brushed under the carpet. The fact that the officially released statement reads (in part) We are disappointed that one of our players -- and therefore the Falcons -- is being presented to the public in a negative way, and we apologize to our fans and the community for that. Note - they are NOT apologizing for the actions or the dogfights, just that it is being presented in a negative way!!! I don't ususally wish bad things for anyone, but in this case I do hope he gets the maximum fine AND imprisonment - and then some! Kat (Mew Jersey) On Wed, 18 Jul 2007, Melissa Lind wrote: Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 08:57:28 -0500 From: Melissa Lind [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: OT: Severely OT, dog fights and NFL player I know this is very OT, but I couldn't stop crying on the way to work this morning after hearing this on NPR. I'm very hormonal right now, but I think that this would make anyone livid. What is wrong with these people? What happened to them? I don't understand these actions which there aren't even strong enough words for. The story involved the NFL player Mick Vick and his involvement with dog fights. They found something like 70 dogs on his property used for fighting. There are many other atrocities that I can't even mention because I'll start crying again. But, here's the story if you want to listen: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=12056318 It makes me feel so helpless and angry and appalled and afraid. Melissa P.S. I'm so sorry this is OT (not even about cats), but I needed to let it out, and I didn't have anyone else to turn to but you guys. No one here at work would understand. IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayers should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor. This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
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Arthur Blank is the owner. Haven't seen this petition, but have emailed the team myself several times since I live in Atlanta. tonya MacKenzie, Kerry N. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kat--dumb Q time. I'm signing the petition. Am I supposed to fill in the Arthur Blank CEO section? Why didn't PETA give his name--I assume it's a him. I don't want to send without making sure it goes to the right person. Thanks--Kerry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kat Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 10:17 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: OT: Severely OT, dog fights and NFL player Melissa, There is something you can do - See the PETA Take Action page Tell the Atlanta Falcons to Punt Animal Abusers off the Team! http://getactive.peta.org/campaign/afalcons_vick It IS incomprehensible on so many different levels, and should not be allowed to be white washed or brushed under the carpet. The fact that the officially released statement reads (in part) We are disappointed that one of our players -- and therefore the Falcons -- is being presented to the public in a negative way, and we apologize to our fans and the community for that. Note - they are NOT apologizing for the actions or the dogfights, just that it is being presented in a negative way!!! I don't ususally wish bad things for anyone, but in this case I do hope he gets the maximum fine AND imprisonment - and then some! Kat (Mew Jersey) On Wed, 18 Jul 2007, Melissa Lind wrote: Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 08:57:28 -0500 From: Melissa Lind Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: OT: Severely OT, dog fights and NFL player I know this is very OT, but I couldn't stop crying on the way to work this morning after hearing this on NPR. I'm very hormonal right now, but I think that this would make anyone livid. What is wrong with these people? What happened to them? I don't understand these actions which there aren't even strong enough words for. The story involved the NFL player Mick Vick and his involvement with dog fights. They found something like 70 dogs on his property used for fighting. There are many other atrocities that I can't even mention because I'll start crying again. But, here's the story if you want to listen: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=12056318 It makes me feel so helpless and angry and appalled and afraid. Melissa P.S. I'm so sorry this is OT (not even about cats), but I needed to let it out, and I didn't have anyone else to turn to but you guys. No one here at work would understand. IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayers should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor. This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
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The ASPCA's legal team is going after Michael Vick hard. I have confidence in them that they will make a huge example out of him-- as they should. My mom is more of a "dog" person (oh, the irony...) and she's been up in arms since this broke. She'd go after him personally if she could. In the meantime, she feels pretty confident in the ASPCA's legal team. Here's their website http://www.aspca.org/site/PageServer -Caroline From:Kat [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To:felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgTo:felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject:RE: OT: Severely OT, dog fights and NFL player for KatDate:Wed, 18 Jul 2007 11:40:34 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time)Hi Kerry,You're right - it is confusing. On the right hand side it says:"Send this message to: * Arthur Blank, CEO"So why they didn't put his name in the "Dear [ Decision Maker ]"is beyond me.Kat (Mew Jersey)On Wed, 18 Jul 2007, MacKenzie, Kerry N. wrote: Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 10:26:54 -0500 From: "MacKenzie, Kerry N." [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: OT: Severely OT, dog fights and NFL player for Kat Kat--dumb Q time. I'm signing the petition. Am I supposed to fill in the "Arthur Blank CEO" section? Why didn't PETA give his name--I assume it's a "him". I don't want to send without making sure it goes to the right person. Thanks--Kerry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kat Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 10:17 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: OT: Severely OT, dog fights and NFL playerMelissa, There is something you can do - See the PETA Take Action page "Tell the Atlanta Falcons to Punt Animal Abusers off the Team!" http://getactive.peta.org/campaign/afalcons_vick It IS incomprehensible on so many different levels, and should not be allowed to be white washed or brushed under the carpet.The fact that the officially released statement reads (in part) "We are disappointed that one of our players -- and therefore the Falcons -- is being presented to the public in a negative way, and we apologize to our fans and the community for that."Note - they are NOT apologizing for the actions or the dogfights, just that it is being presented in a negative way!!! I don't ususally wish bad things for anyone, but in this case I do hope he gets the maximum fine AND imprisonment - and then some! Kat (Mew Jersey) On Wed, 18 Jul 2007, Melissa Lind wrote:Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 08:57:28 -0500 From: Melissa Lind [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: OT: Severely OT, dog fights and NFL player I know this is very OT, but I couldn't stop crying on the way to work this morning after hearing this on NPR. I'm very hormonal right now, but I think that this would make anyone livid. What is wrong with these people? What happened to them? I don't understand these actions which there aren't even strong enough words for. The story involved the NFL player Mick Vick and his involvement with dog fights. They found something like 70 dogs on his property used for fighting. There are many other atrocities that I can't even mention because I'll start crying again. But, here's the story if you want to listen: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=12056318 It makes me feel so helpless and angry and appalled and afraid. Melissa P.S. I'm so sorry this is OT (not even about cats), but I needed to let it out, and I didn't have anyone else to turn to but you guys. No one here at work would understand. IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayers should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor. This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Need a brain boost? Recharge with a stimulating game. Play now!
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Oops I thought Arthur Blank was a fake name--now having googled I realize it's the real name. Sorry for my confusion! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kat Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 10:41 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: OT: Severely OT, dog fights and NFL player for Kat Hi Kerry, You're right - it is confusing. On the right hand side it says: Send this message to: * Arthur Blank, CEO So why they didn't put his name in the Dear [ Decision Maker ] is beyond me. Kat (Mew Jersey) On Wed, 18 Jul 2007, MacKenzie, Kerry N. wrote: Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 10:26:54 -0500 From: MacKenzie, Kerry N. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: OT: Severely OT, dog fights and NFL player for Kat Kat--dumb Q time. I'm signing the petition. Am I supposed to fill in the Arthur Blank CEO section? Why didn't PETA give his name--I assume it's a him. I don't want to send without making sure it goes to the right person. Thanks--Kerry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kat Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 10:17 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: OT: Severely OT, dog fights and NFL player Melissa, There is something you can do - See the PETA Take Action page Tell the Atlanta Falcons to Punt Animal Abusers off the Team! http://getactive.peta.org/campaign/afalcons_vick It IS incomprehensible on so many different levels, and should not be allowed to be white washed or brushed under the carpet. The fact that the officially released statement reads (in part) We are disappointed that one of our players -- and therefore the Falcons -- is being presented to the public in a negative way, and we apologize to our fans and the community for that. Note - they are NOT apologizing for the actions or the dogfights, just that it is being presented in a negative way!!! I don't ususally wish bad things for anyone, but in this case I do hope he gets the maximum fine AND imprisonment - and then some! Kat (Mew Jersey) On Wed, 18 Jul 2007, Melissa Lind wrote: Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 08:57:28 -0500 From: Melissa Lind [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: OT: Severely OT, dog fights and NFL player I know this is very OT, but I couldn't stop crying on the way to work this morning after hearing this on NPR. I'm very hormonal right now, but I think that this would make anyone livid. What is wrong with these people? What happened to them? I don't understand these actions which there aren't even strong enough words for. The story involved the NFL player Mick Vick and his involvement with dog fights. They found something like 70 dogs on his property used for fighting. There are many other atrocities that I can't even mention because I'll start crying again. But, here's the story if you want to listen: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=12056318 It makes me feel so helpless and angry and appalled and afraid. Melissa P.S. I'm so sorry this is OT (not even about cats), but I needed to let it out, and I didn't have anyone else to turn to but you guys. No one here at work would understand. IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayers should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor. This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
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Thanks Kat! I haven't been checking my PETA messages or the website lately, so I missed this one. I feel as though I am at least doing something however small. I too am having a really difficult time not wishing the worst on these barbarians. Yes, it's all about the image. They don't care what he's done--they only care how it's impacting them monetarily. Yuck. I hate professional sports even more now than I did before. Melissa -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kat Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 10:17 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: OT: Severely OT, dog fights and NFL player Melissa, There is something you can do - See the PETA Take Action page Tell the Atlanta Falcons to Punt Animal Abusers off the Team! http://getactive.peta.org/campaign/afalcons_vick It IS incomprehensible on so many different levels, and should not be allowed to be white washed or brushed under the carpet. The fact that the officially released statement reads (in part) We are disappointed that one of our players -- and therefore the Falcons -- is being presented to the public in a negative way, and we apologize to our fans and the community for that. Note - they are NOT apologizing for the actions or the dogfights, just that it is being presented in a negative way!!! I don't ususally wish bad things for anyone, but in this case I do hope he gets the maximum fine AND imprisonment - and then some! Kat (Mew Jersey) On Wed, 18 Jul 2007, Melissa Lind wrote: Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 08:57:28 -0500 From: Melissa Lind [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: OT: Severely OT, dog fights and NFL player I know this is very OT, but I couldn't stop crying on the way to work this morning after hearing this on NPR. I'm very hormonal right now, but I think that this would make anyone livid. What is wrong with these people? What happened to them? I don't understand these actions which there aren't even strong enough words for. The story involved the NFL player Mick Vick and his involvement with dog fights. They found something like 70 dogs on his property used for fighting. There are many other atrocities that I can't even mention because I'll start crying again. But, here's the story if you want to listen: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=12056318 It makes me feel so helpless and angry and appalled and afraid. Melissa P.S. I'm so sorry this is OT (not even about cats), but I needed to let it out, and I didn't have anyone else to turn to but you guys. No one here at work would understand.
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I think we can be confident that he won't slip through the system. Yes, his legal team will be well-paid for and I hate that, but the Humane Society, ASPCA and PETA are all on top of this. Those are three very powerful organizations who- working together- will be extremely powerful and influential in this matter. You can check on the Humane Society's webpage to see if they have more that you can do. I have to skip over the details of the cruelty...I can't read about it, I just can't. But they have a link from this site where you can read the indictment that was handed down yesterday against him. -Caroline http://www.hsus.org/hsus_field/animal_fighting_the_final_round/recent_activities/vick_indicted.html From:"Melissa Lind" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To:felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgTo:felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject:RE: OT: Severely OT, dog fights and NFL playerDate:Wed, 18 Jul 2007 11:15:15 -0500Thanks Kat! I haven't been checking my PETA messages or the website lately,so I missed this one. I feel as though I am at least doing something howeversmall. I too am having a really difficult time not wishing the worst onthese barbarians.Yes, it's all about the image. They don't care what he's done--they onlycare how it's impacting them monetarily. Yuck. I hate professional sportseven more now than I did before.Melissa-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED][mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of KatSent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 10:17 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: OT: Severely OT, dog fights and NFL playerMelissa,There is something you can do - See the PETA Take Action page"Tell the Atlanta Falcons to Punt Animal Abusers off the Team!"http://getactive.peta.org/campaign/afalcons_vickIt IS incomprehensible on so many different levels, and should not beallowed to be white washed or brushed under the carpet.The fact that theofficially released statement reads (in part) "We are disappointed thatone of our players -- and therefore the Falcons -- is being presented tothe public in a negative way, and we apologize to our fans and thecommunity for that."Note - they are NOT apologizing for the actions orthe dogfights, just that it is being presented in a negative way!!!I don't ususally wish bad things for anyone, but in this case I do hope hegets the maximum fine AND imprisonment - and then some!Kat (Mew Jersey)On Wed, 18 Jul 2007, Melissa Lind wrote: Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 08:57:28 -0500 From: Melissa Lind [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: OT: Severely OT, dog fights and NFL player I know this is very OT, but I couldn't stop crying on the way to work this morning after hearing this on NPR. I'm very hormonal right now, but Ithink that this would make anyone livid. What is wrong with these people? What happened to them? I don't understand these actions which there aren't even strong enough words for. The story involved the NFL player Mick Vick and his involvement with dog fights. They found something like 70 dogs on his property used forfighting. There are many other atrocities that I can't even mention because I'llstart crying again. But, here's the story if you want to listen: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=12056318 It makes me feel so helpless and angry and appalled and afraid. Melissa P.S. I'm so sorry this is OT (not even about cats), but I needed to let it out, and I didn't have anyone else to turn to but you guys. No one here at work would understand. More photos, more messages, more storageget 2GB with Windows Live Hotmail.
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Hey Melissa, I would say good morning, but I think that might be lost on you right now. I'm sorry you've had such a tough one. I don't do well hearing about those types of atrocities either. I get so angry inside, I don't know what to do with myself. The good news is, this guy is caught, and those dogs are safe from him now. And because he's in the public eye, he's going to have a hell of a time with his fans, who won't be his fans anymore. Any that are worth their weight anyway. And the best part of it is, I bet he doesn't get his contract renewed after this. That's the best justice of all (other than doing to him what he did to those dogs). :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: Melissa Lind [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 8:57:28 AM Subject: OT: Severely OT, dog fights and NFL player I know this is very OT, but I couldn’t stop crying on the way to work this morning after hearing this on NPR. I’m very hormonal right now, but I think that this would make anyone livid. What is wrong with these people? What happened to them? I don’t understand these actions which there aren’t even strong enough words for. The story involved the NFL player Mick Vick and his involvement with dog fights. They found something like 70 dogs on his property used for fighting. There are many other atrocities that I can’t even mention because I’ll start crying again. But, here’s the story if you want to listen: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=12056318 It makes me feel so helpless and angry and appalled and afraid. Melissa P.S. I’m so sorry this is OT (not even about cats), but I needed to let it out, and I didn’t have anyone else to turn to but you guys. No one here at work would understand. Need Mail bonding? Go to the Yahoo! Mail QA for great tips from Yahoo! Answers users. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=listsid=396546091
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Hey guys, Another good way to see he gets what's coming to him, in case his case falls through, is to write to the Falcons and tell them you don't want them to renew his contract, or even better, let him go early. Right before football season would be GREAT!!! It will hit him where he'll hurt the most. He won't be able to do what he loves: play football. Also, write to any companies that endorse him or that he's a spokesperson for. I need to research them and if I find any, I'll get them to you. That will also hit him in the pocketbook. Honored to work with you guys! :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: Melissa Lind [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 11:15:15 AM Subject: RE: OT: Severely OT, dog fights and NFL player Thanks Kat! I haven't been checking my PETA messages or the website lately, so I missed this one. I feel as though I am at least doing something however small. I too am having a really difficult time not wishing the worst on these barbarians. Yes, it's all about the image. They don't care what he's done--they only care how it's impacting them monetarily. Yuck. I hate professional sports even more now than I did before. Melissa -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kat Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 10:17 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: OT: Severely OT, dog fights and NFL player Melissa, There is something you can do - See the PETA Take Action page Tell the Atlanta Falcons to Punt Animal Abusers off the Team! http://getactive.peta.org/campaign/afalcons_vick It IS incomprehensible on so many different levels, and should not be allowed to be white washed or brushed under the carpet. The fact that the officially released statement reads (in part) We are disappointed that one of our players -- and therefore the Falcons -- is being presented to the public in a negative way, and we apologize to our fans and the community for that. Note - they are NOT apologizing for the actions or the dogfights, just that it is being presented in a negative way!!! I don't ususally wish bad things for anyone, but in this case I do hope he gets the maximum fine AND imprisonment - and then some! Kat (Mew Jersey) On Wed, 18 Jul 2007, Melissa Lind wrote: Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 08:57:28 -0500 From: Melissa Lind [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: OT: Severely OT, dog fights and NFL player I know this is very OT, but I couldn't stop crying on the way to work this morning after hearing this on NPR. I'm very hormonal right now, but I think that this would make anyone livid. What is wrong with these people? What happened to them? I don't understand these actions which there aren't even strong enough words for. The story involved the NFL player Mick Vick and his involvement with dog fights. They found something like 70 dogs on his property used for fighting. There are many other atrocities that I can't even mention because I'll start crying again. But, here's the story if you want to listen: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=12056318 It makes me feel so helpless and angry and appalled and afraid. Melissa P.S. I'm so sorry this is OT (not even about cats), but I needed to let it out, and I didn't have anyone else to turn to but you guys. No one here at work would understand. Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mailp=graduation+giftscs=bz
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Good idea re the sponsor companies Wendy---yup, please send any names you get. Kerry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wendy Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 12:27 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: OT: Severely OT, dog fights and NFL player Hey guys, Another good way to see he gets what's coming to him, in case his case falls through, is to write to the Falcons and tell them you don't want them to renew his contract, or even better, let him go early. Right before football season would be GREAT!!! It will hit him where he'll hurt the most. He won't be able to do what he loves: play football. Also, write to any companies that endorse him or that he's a spokesperson for. I need to research them and if I find any, I'll get them to you. That will also hit him in the pocketbook. Honored to work with you guys! :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: Melissa Lind [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 11:15:15 AM Subject: RE: OT: Severely OT, dog fights and NFL player Thanks Kat! I haven't been checking my PETA messages or the website lately, so I missed this one. I feel as though I am at least doing something however small. I too am having a really difficult time not wishing the worst on these barbarians. Yes, it's all about the image. They don't care what he's done--they only care how it's impacting them monetarily. Yuck. I hate professional sports even more now than I did before. Melissa -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kat Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 10:17 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: OT: Severely OT, dog fights and NFL player Melissa, There is something you can do - See the PETA Take Action page Tell the Atlanta Falcons to Punt Animal Abusers off the Team! http://getactive.peta.org/campaign/afalcons_vick It IS incomprehensible on so many different levels, and should not be allowed to be white washed or brushed under the carpet. The fact that the officially released statement reads (in part) We are disappointed that one of our players -- and therefore the Falcons -- is being presented to the public in a negative way, and we apologize to our fans and the community for that. Note - they are NOT apologizing for the actions or the dogfights, just that it is being presented in a negative way!!! I don't ususally wish bad things for anyone, but in this case I do hope he gets the maximum fine AND imprisonment - and then some! Kat (Mew Jersey) On Wed, 18 Jul 2007, Melissa Lind wrote: Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 08:57:28 -0500 From: Melissa Lind [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: OT: Severely OT, dog fights and NFL player I know this is very OT, but I couldn't stop crying on the way to work this morning after hearing this on NPR. I'm very hormonal right now, but I think that this would make anyone livid. What is wrong with these people? What happened to them? I don't understand these actions which there aren't even strong enough words for. The story involved the NFL player Mick Vick and his involvement with dog fights. They found something like 70 dogs on his property used for fighting. There are many other atrocities that I can't even mention because I'll start crying again. But, here's the story if you want to listen: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=12056318 It makes me feel so helpless and angry and appalled and afraid. Melissa P.S. I'm so sorry this is OT (not even about cats), but I needed to let it out, and I didn't have anyone else to turn to but you guys. No one here at work would understand. Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mailp=graduation+giftscs=bz IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayers should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor. This email and any files transmitted with it are intended
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This is the direct link from the National Humane Society's website to tell the NFL Commissioner Goodell to suspend Vick. All you have to do is fill in your info and send the email. It then lets your forward the same link to friends' email addresses. It also gives you the option to donate money to help the HS care for the 52 seized dogs (they are overseeing their care)...which I find ironic because I personally feel Vick's million-dollar bank accounts should be seized so that he is made to pay for their care (and intensive rehab, no doubt). Or, the NFL should step the H up and donate a couple thou for that purpose. Anyway, I'm in the hole myself from taking care of my sweet little Monkee the past few weeks, but I gave what I could, which wasn't much. But we do what we can... http://www.hsus.org/hsus_field/animal_fighting_the_final_round/recent_activities/vick_indicted.html -Caroline From:wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To:felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgTo:felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject:Re: OT: Severely OT, dog fights and NFL playerDate:Wed, 18 Jul 2007 10:26:55 -0700 (PDT)Hey guys,Another good way to see he gets what's coming to him, in case his case falls through, is to write to the Falcons and tell them you don't want them to renew his contract, or even better, let him go early.Right before football season would be GREAT!!!It will hit him where he'll hurt the most.He won't be able to do what he loves: play football.Also, write to any companies that endorse him or that he's a spokesperson for.I need to research them and if I find any, I'll get them to you.That will also hit him in the pocketbook.Honored to work with you guys!:)Wendy"Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has!" ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~- Original Message From: Melissa Lind [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 11:15:15 AMSubject: RE: OT: Severely OT, dog fights and NFL playerThanks Kat! I haven't been checking my PETA messages or the website lately,so I missed this one. I feel as though I am at least doing something howeversmall. I too am having a really difficult time not wishing the worst onthese barbarians.Yes, it's all about the image. They don't care what he's done--they onlycare how it's impacting them monetarily. Yuck. I hate professional sportseven more now than I did before.Melissa-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED][mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of KatSent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 10:17 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: OT: Severely OT, dog fights and NFL playerMelissa,There is something you can do - See the PETA Take Action page"Tell the Atlanta Falcons to Punt Animal Abusers off the Team!"http://getactive.peta.org/campaign/afalcons_vickIt IS incomprehensible on so many different levels, and should not beallowed to be white washed or brushed under the carpet.The fact that theofficially released statement reads (in part) "We are disappointed thatone of our players -- and therefore the Falcons -- is being presented tothe public in a negative way, and we apologize to our fans and thecommunity for that."Note - they are NOT apologizing for the actions orthe dogfights, just that it is being presented in a negative way!!!I don't ususally wish bad things for anyone, but in this case I do hope hegets the maximum fine AND imprisonment - and then some!Kat (Mew Jersey)On Wed, 18 Jul 2007, Melissa Lind wrote: Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 08:57:28 -0500 From: Melissa Lind [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: OT: Severely OT, dog fights and NFL player I know this is very OT, but I couldn't stop crying on the way to work this morning after hearing this on NPR. I'm very hormonal right now, but Ithink that this would make anyone livid. What is wrong with these people? What happened to them? I don't understand these actions which there aren't even strong enough words for. The story involved the NFL player Mick Vick and his involvement with dog fights. They found something like 70 dogs on his property used forfighting. There are many other atrocities that I can't even mention because I'llstart crying again. But, here's the story if you want to listen: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=12056318 It makes me feel so helpless and angry and appalled and afraid. Melissa P.S. I'm so sorry this is OT (not even about cats), but I needed to let it out, and I didn't have anyone else to turn to but you guys. No one here at work would understand. Luggage? GPS? Comic books?Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Searchhttp://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mailp=graduation+giftscs=bz Need a brain boost? Recharge with a stimulating game. Play now!
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Thank you for this info. Caroline. I'm on it. :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: Caroline Kaufmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 12:38:37 PM Subject: Re: OT: Severely OT, dog fights and NFL player This is the direct link from the National Humane Society's website to tell the NFL Commissioner Goodell to suspend Vick. All you have to do is fill in your info and send the email. It then lets your forward the same link to friends' email addresses. It also gives you the option to donate money to help the HS care for the 52 seized dogs (they are overseeing their care)...which I find ironic because I personally feel Vick's million-dollar bank accounts should be seized so that he is made to pay for their care (and intensive rehab, no doubt). Or, the NFL should step the H up and donate a couple thou for that purpose. Anyway, I'm in the hole myself from taking care of my sweet little Monkee the past few weeks, but I gave what I could, which wasn't much. But we do what we can... http://www.hsus.org/hsus_field/animal_fighting_the_final_round/recent_activities/vick_indicted.html -Caroline From: wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: OT: Severely OT, dog fights and NFL player Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 10:26:55 -0700 (PDT) Hey guys, Another good way to see he gets what's coming to him, in case his case falls through, is to write to the Falcons and tell them you don't want them to renew his contract, or even better, let him go early. Right before football season would be GREAT!!! It will hit him where he'll hurt the most. He won't be able to do what he loves: play football. Also, write to any companies that endorse him or that he's a spokesperson for. I need to research them and if I find any, I'll get them to you. That will also hit him in the pocketbook. Honored to work with you guys! :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: Melissa Lind [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 11:15:15 AM Subject: RE: OT: Severely OT, dog fights and NFL player Thanks Kat! I haven't been checking my PETA messages or the website lately, so I missed this one. I feel as though I am at least doing something however small. I too am having a really difficult time not wishing the worst on these barbarians. Yes, it's all about the image. They don't care what he's done--they only care how it's impacting them monetarily. Yuck. I hate professional sports even more now than I did before. Melissa -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kat Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 10:17 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: OT: Severely OT, dog fights and NFL player Melissa, There is something you can do - See the PETA Take Action page Tell the Atlanta Falcons to Punt Animal Abusers off the Team! http://getactive.peta.org/campaign/afalcons_vick It IS incomprehensible on so many different levels, and should not be allowed to be white washed or brushed under the carpet. The fact that the officially released statement reads (in part) We are disappointed that one of our players -- and therefore the Falcons -- is being presented to the public in a negative way, and we apologize to our fans and the community for that. Note - they are NOT apologizing for the actions or the dogfights, just that it is being presented in a negative way!!! I don't ususally wish bad things for anyone, but in this case I do hope he gets the maximum fine AND imprisonment - and then some! Kat (Mew Jersey) On Wed, 18 Jul 2007, Melissa Lind wrote: Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 08:57:28 -0500 From: Melissa Lind [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: OT: Severely OT, dog fights and NFL player I know this is very OT, but I couldn't stop crying on the way to work this morning after hearing this on NPR. I'm very hormonal right now, but I think that this would make anyone livid. What is wrong with these people? What happened to them? I don't understand these actions which there aren't even strong enough words for. The story involved the NFL player Mick Vick and his involvement with dog fights. They found something like 70 dogs on his property used for fighting. There are many other atrocities that I can't even mention because I'll start crying again. But, here's the story if you want to listen: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=12056318 It makes me feel so helpless and angry and appalled
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Wendy- although their ready-made email is very handy, I always like to personalize it. Just in case anyone wants an example of how I thought I could (hopefully) effectively personalize my emailI have pasted mine here. So, do you love itor do you love it?! -Caroline Please suspend Michael Vick for his actions. And while you're at it, I should think it would be big of the NFL to step up to the plate, for once, and donate a couple thousand dollars to the National Humane Society to care for the 52 seized dogs from Vick's property. Right now they are depending on donations for their care and it makes me sick to think of the billions of dollars your organization has at it's disposal that could be put to a humane use. I myself donated some money to help "clean up" Vick's mess and should think the NFL could do the same, at the very least. I don't have much money to give myself because I have spent hundreds of dollars caring for and treating my dying cat for the past three months. I was fighting a losing battle against his cancer and Leukemia, but did it anyway because he was my best friend, AND it was the right thing to do. I lost my cat when he died in my arms early Monday morning. Ponder that and know that I will never support the NFL or anything related to it until drastic changes are made. I feel your organization really needs some perspective. Sincerely, Caroline L. Kaufmann From: wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: OT: Severely OT, dog fights and NFL playerDate: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 10:54:10 -0700 (PDT) Thank you for this info. Caroline. I'm on it. :) Wendy "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has!" ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: Caroline Kaufmann [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 12:38:37 PMSubject: Re: OT: Severely OT, dog fights and NFL player This is the direct link from the National Humane Society's website to tell the NFL Commissioner Goodell to suspend Vick. All you have to do is fill in your info and send the email. It then lets your forward the same link to friends' email addresses. It also gives you the option to donate money to help the HS care for the 52 seized dogs (they are overseeing their care)...which I find ironic because I personally feel Vick's million-dollar bank accounts should be seized so that he is made to pay for their care (and intensive rehab, no doubt). Or, the NFL should step the H up and donate a couple thou for that purpose. Anyway, I'm in the hole myself from taking care of my sweet little Monkee the past few weeks, but I gave what I could, which wasn't much. But we do what we can... http://www.hsus.org/hsus_field/animal_fighting_the_final_round/recent_activities/vick_indicted.html -Caroline From:wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To:felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgTo:felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject:Re: OT: Severely OT, dog fights and NFL playerDate:Wed, 18 Jul 2007 10:26:55 -0700 (PDT)Hey guys,Another good way to see he gets what's coming to him, in case his case falls through, is to write to the Falcons and tell them you don't want them to renew his contract, or even better, let him go early.Right before football season would be GREAT!!!It will hit him where he'll hurt the most.He won't be able to do what he loves: play football.Also, write to any companies that endorse him or that he's a spokesperson for.I need to research them and if I find any, I'll get them to you.That will also hit him in the pocketbook.Honored to work with you guys!:)Wendy"Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has!" ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~- Original Message From: Melissa Lind [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 11:15:15 AMSubject: RE: OT: Severely OT, dog fights and NFL playerThanks Kat! I haven't been checking my PETA messages or the website lately,so I missed this one. I feel as though I am at least doing something howeversmall. I too am having a really difficult time not wishing the worst onthese barbarians.Yes, it's all about the image. They don't care what he's done--they onlycare how it's impacting them monetarily. Yuck. I hate professional sportseven more now than I did before.Melissa-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED][mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of KatSent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 10:17 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: OT: Severely OT, dog fights and NFL playerMelissa,There is something you can do - See the PETA Take Action page"Tell the Atlanta Falcons to Punt Animal Abusers off the Team!"http://getactive.peta.org/campaign/afalcons_vickIt IS incomprehensible on so many different levels, and should not beallowed to be white was
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Thanks Wendy and Caroline! I've been busily typing away to those companies/NFL/Falcons while I should be working :-). I thought your letter was very nice Caroline-and I'm also glad it gives you something to fight for-something you can do in Monkee's honor. Melissa _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Caroline Kaufmann Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 12:59 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: OT: Severely OT, dog fights and NFL player Wendy- although their ready-made email is very handy, I always like to personalize it. Just in case anyone wants an example of how I thought I could (hopefully) effectively personalize my emailI have pasted mine here. So, do you love itor do you love it?! -Caroline Please suspend Michael Vick for his actions. And while you're at it, I should think it would be big of the NFL to step up to the plate, for once, and donate a couple thousand dollars to the National Humane Society to care for the 52 seized dogs from Vick's property. Right now they are depending on donations for their care and it makes me sick to think of the billions of dollars your organization has at it's disposal that could be put to a humane use. I myself donated some money to help clean up Vick's mess and should think the NFL could do the same, at the very least. I don't have much money to give myself because I have spent hundreds of dollars caring for and treating my dying cat for the past three months. I was fighting a losing battle against his cancer and Leukemia, but did it anyway because he was my best friend, AND it was the right thing to do. I lost my cat when he died in my arms early Monday morning. Ponder that and know that I will never support the NFL or anything related to it until drastic changes are made. I feel your organization really needs some perspective. Sincerely, Caroline L. Kaufmann _ From: wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: OT: Severely OT, dog fights and NFL player Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 10:54:10 -0700 (PDT) Thank you for this info. Caroline. I'm on it. :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: Caroline Kaufmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 12:38:37 PM Subject: Re: OT: Severely OT, dog fights and NFL player This is the direct link from the National Humane Society's website to tell the NFL Commissioner Goodell to suspend Vick. All you have to do is fill in your info and send the email. It then lets your forward the same link to friends' email addresses. It also gives you the option to donate money to help the HS care for the 52 seized dogs (they are overseeing their care)...which I find ironic because I personally feel Vick's million-dollar bank accounts should be seized so that he is made to pay for their care (and intensive rehab, no doubt). Or, the NFL should step the H up and donate a couple thou for that purpose. Anyway, I'm in the hole myself from taking care of my sweet little Monkee the past few weeks, but I gave what I could, which wasn't much. But we do what we can... http://www.hsus.org/hsus_field/animal_fighting_the_final_round/recent_activi ties/vick_indicted.html -Caroline _ From: wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: OT: Severely OT, dog fights and NFL player Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 10:26:55 -0700 (PDT) Hey guys, Another good way to see he gets what's coming to him, in case his case falls through, is to write to the Falcons and tell them you don't want them to renew his contract, or even better, let him go early. Right before football season would be GREAT!!! It will hit him where he'll hurt the most. He won't be able to do what he loves: play football. Also, write to any companies that endorse him or that he's a spokesperson for. I need to research them and if I find any, I'll get them to you. That will also hit him in the pocketbook. Honored to work with you guys! :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: Melissa Lind [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 11:15:15 AM Subject: RE: OT: Severely OT, dog fights and NFL player Thanks Kat! I haven't been checking my PETA messages or the website lately, so I missed this one. I feel as though I am at least doing something however small. I too am having a really difficult time not wishing the worst on these barbarians. Yes, it's all about the image. They don't care what he's done--they only care how it's impacting them monetarily
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Oh and rest assured...I have my friends and whole family on it too. They are animal people and they will definitely take action...but it's always a little easier when someone else does the leg work for you! -Caroline From: "Melissa Lind" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: RE: OT: Severely OT, dog fights and NFL playerDate: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 13:35:58 -0500 Thanks Wendy and Caroline! Ive been busily typing away to those companies/NFL/Falcons while I should be working J. I thought your letter was very nice Carolineand Im also glad it gives you something to fight forsomething you can do in Monkees honor. Melissa From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Caroline KaufmannSent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 12:59 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: OT: Severely OT, dog fights and NFL player Wendy- although their ready-made email is very handy, I always like to personalize it. Just in case anyone wants an example of how I thought I could (hopefully) effectively personalize my emailI have pasted mine here. So, do you love itor do you love it?! -Caroline Please suspend Michael Vick for his actions. And while you're at it, I should think it would be big of the NFL to step up to the plate, for once, and donate a couple thousand dollars to the National Humane Society to care for the 52 seized dogs from Vick's property. Right now they are depending on donations for their care and it makes me sick to think of the billions of dollars your organization has at it's disposal that could be put to a humane use. I myself donated some money to help "clean up" Vick's mess and should think the NFL could do the same, at the very least. I don't have much money to give myself because I have spent hundreds of dollars caring for and treating my dying cat for the past three months. I was fighting a losing battle against his cancer and Leukemia, but did it anyway because he was my best friend, AND it was the right thing to do. I lost my cat when he died in my arms early Monday morning. Ponder that and know that I will never support the NFL or anything related to it until drastic changes are made. I feel your organization really needs some perspective. Sincerely, Caroline L. Kaufmann From: wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: OT: Severely OT, dog fights and NFL playerDate: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 10:54:10 -0700 (PDT) Thank you for this info. Caroline. I'm on it. :) Wendy "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has!" ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: Caroline Kaufmann [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 12:38:37 PMSubject: Re: OT: Severely OT, dog fights and NFL player This is the direct link from the National Humane Society's website to tell the NFL Commissioner Goodell to suspend Vick. All you have to do is fill in your info and send the email. It then lets your forward the same link to friends' email addresses. It also gives you the option to donate money to help the HS care for the 52 seized dogs (they are overseeing their care)...which I find ironic because I personally feel Vick's million-dollar bank accounts should be seized so that he is made to pay for their care (and intensive rehab, no doubt). Or, the NFL should step the H up and donate a couple thou for that purpose. Anyway, I'm in the hole myself from taking care of my sweet little Monkee the past few weeks, but I gave what I could, which wasn't much. But we do what we can... http://www.hsus.org/hsus_field/animal_fighting_the_final_round/recent_activities/vick_indicted.html -Caroline From:wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To:felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgTo:felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject:Re: OT: Severely OT, dog fights and NFL playerDate:Wed, 18 Jul 2007 10:26:55 -0700 (PDT)Hey guys,Another good way to see he gets what's coming to him, in case his case falls through, is to write to the Falcons and tell them you don't want them to renew his contract, or even better, let him go early.Right before football season would be GREAT!!!It will hit him where he'll hurt the most.He won't be able to do what he loves: play football.Also, write to any companies that endorse him or that he's a spokesperson for.I need to research them and if I find any, I'll get them to you.That will also hit him in the pocketbook.Honored to work with you guys!:)Wendy"Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has!" ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~- Original Message From: Melissa Lind [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 11:15:15 AMSubject: RE: OT: Severely OT, dog fights and NFL playerThanks Kat! I
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I've forwarded all of this great info off to many other lists, including the Austin Petsitters' Assoc., who will be contacting all their clients I am sure. So sad, when I worked @ the AHS I got to see first hand the damage of dog fighting. The shelter itself is not in the best part of town, and there were people in the neighborhood breeding fighting dogs I was working in Animal Intake one day, which is in the back of the building. I walked outside for some fresh air, and someone had tied a poor, starving, overbreed pit to the backdoor. To make matters worse, she had many of the scars from fighting (including the cropped off ears) and she was dying of parvo. She was just laying outside the door, and she was having parvo blowouts (if you do not know what these are, please email me offlist. Too graphic) Anyway, we called Animal Control to come pick her up, and in the meantime we gave her some water. She could not be brought into the shelter or even moved due to her infectious disease, ( it would put shelter dogs @ risk even more) and it was sweltering outside, being August or so.. Animal control did not show up after 2 hours, as I sat w/ her. Finally we decided to just take her around to the other side of the building, into the cat isolation area (cats cannot catch parvo) and give her the kind, compassionate death that she deserved. It was the lowpoint of my day to say the least. Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From: Caroline Kaufmann To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 1:50 PM Subject: RE: OT: Severely OT, dog fights and NFL player Oh and rest assured...I have my friends and whole family on it too. They are animal people and they will definitely take action...but it's always a little easier when someone else does the leg work for you! -Caroline From: Melissa Lind [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: OT: Severely OT, dog fights and NFL player Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 13:35:58 -0500 Thanks Wendy and Caroline! I've been busily typing away to those companies/NFL/Falcons while I should be working J. I thought your letter was very nice Caroline-and I'm also glad it gives you something to fight for-something you can do in Monkee's honor. Melissa From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Caroline Kaufmann Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 12:59 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: OT: Severely OT, dog fights and NFL player Wendy- although their ready-made email is very handy, I always like to personalize it. Just in case anyone wants an example of how I thought I could (hopefully) effectively personalize my emailI have pasted mine here. So, do you love itor do you love it?! -Caroline Please suspend Michael Vick for his actions. And while you're at it, I should think it would be big of the NFL to step up to the plate, for once, and donate a couple thousand dollars to the National Humane Society to care for the 52 seized dogs from Vick's property. Right now they are depending on donations for their care and it makes me sick to think of the billions of dollars your organization has at it's disposal that could be put to a humane use. I myself donated some money to help clean up Vick's mess and should think the NFL could do the same, at the very least. I don't have much money to give myself because I have spent hundreds of dollars caring for and treating my dying cat for the past three months. I was fighting a losing battle against his cancer and Leukemia, but did it anyway because he was my best friend, AND it was the right thing to do. I lost my cat when he died in my arms early Monday morning. Ponder that and know that I will never support the NFL or anything related to it until drastic changes are made. I feel your organization really needs some perspective. Sincerely, Caroline L. Kaufmann -- From: wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: OT: Severely OT, dog fights and NFL player Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 10:54:10 -0700 (PDT) Thank you for this info
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I've forwarded all of this great info off to many other lists, including the Austin Petsitters' Assoc., who will be contacting all their clients I am sure. So sad, when I worked @ the AHS I got to see first hand the damage of dog fighting. The shelter itself is not in the best part of town, and there were people in the neighborhood breeding fighting dogs I was working in Animal Intake one day, which is in the back of the building. I walked outside for some fresh air, and someone had tied a poor, starving, overbreed pit to the backdoor. To make matters worse, she had many of the scars from fighting (including the cropped off ears) and she was dying of parvo. She was just laying outside the door, and she was having parvo blowouts (if you do not know what these are, please email me offlist. Too graphic) Anyway, we called Animal Control to come pick her up, and in the meantime we gave her some water. She could not be brought into the shelter or even moved due to her infectious disease, ( it would put shelter dogs @ risk even more) and it was sweltering outside, being August or so.. Animal control did not show up after 2 hours, as I sat w/ her. Finally we decided to just take her around to the other side of the building, into the cat isolation area (cats cannot catch parvo) and give her the kind, compassionate death that she deserved. It was the lowpoint of my day to say the least. Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From: Caroline Kaufmann To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 1:50 PM Subject: RE: OT: Severely OT, dog fights and NFL player Oh and rest assured...I have my friends and whole family on it too. They are animal people and they will definitely take action...but it's always a little easier when someone else does the leg work for you! -Caroline
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MELISSA, THANK YOU FOR CALLING THIS TO MY ATTENTION. I JUST NOW HAD TIME TO LISTEN TO THIS %^#*(#^*_MR. VICK OMG, WHAT IS WRONG WITH THESE PEOPLE? THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT I AM THINKING... GOSH, 6-years maximum is NOT ENOUGH! IM ALL FOR PUTTING A LITTLE ENERGY INTO MAKING THESE GUYS MISERABLE. I DO HAVE TO WONDER WHAT IS GOING ON WITH THE DOGS ? I SUPPOSE MANY OF THEM WILL BE KILLED, BECAUSE AFTER WHAT THEY HAVE BEEN THROUGH THEY WILL BE TOO UNSTABLE TO ADOPT OUT AS FAMILY PETS... HOW ABSOLUTELY HORRIBLE. THIS VICK PERSON NEEDS THE RUG PULLED OUT FROM UNDER HIM. THE GUY IS JUST WAY TOO COCKY. I HOPE OUR WHOLE CAT LOVING GROUP, DOES TAKE THE TIME TO LISTEN TO THIS CLIP INVOLVING M. VICK AND HIS BUDDIES. A few emails and even phone calls to put pressure on knocking this guy off his perch is a great idea...I KNOW OUR CATS WOULD BE PROUD OF US...GLENDA --- Melissa Lind [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know this is very OT, but I couldn't stop crying on the way to work this morning after hearing this on NPR. I'm very hormonal right now, but I think that this would make anyone livid. What is wrong with these people? What happened to them? I don't understand these actions which there aren't even strong enough words for. The story involved the NFL player Mick Vick and his involvement with dog fights. They found something like 70 dogs on his property used for fighting. There are many other atrocities that I can't even mention because I'll start crying again. But, here's the story if you want to listen: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=12056318 It makes me feel so helpless and angry and appalled and afraid. Melissa P.S. I'm so sorry this is OT (not even about cats), but I needed to let it out, and I didn't have anyone else to turn to but you guys. No one here at work would understand. Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids. http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mailp=summer+activities+for+kidscs=bz
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The Humane Society is overseeing the care for the 52 seized dogs. I fear that some will have to be put down due to injuries and illness. But there has got to be some kind of rehabilitation that is done on the dogs that are not ill/injured beyond repair. Also, I try not to know too much about pit bull fighting because it's too hard for me to stomach...but some females are used just for breeding, so I should think some of the would be salvageable. Again, if you can, log onto the Humane Society's website and you can donate an amount that will be used to help these actual seized dogs. I guess this is just a reminder that our work is never done. Even if you don't do dog rescues or you aren't a "dog person," it's still important to give what you can...and even more so, to call attention to this matter to the people out there who are dog people! I think in my whole life I have met way too many people who AREN'T cat people and that has always made me sad, but I can count on only one hand the people that claimed to not be dog people. Thus, I feel like if you take the time to get the word out, there's no end to the positive results that could come from that just because of the shear numbers of people who are willing to stand up against cruel treatment of dogs. All of you people have done more than me for animals and it amazes me the work that each of you do. You all have really inspired me. So this is just a reminder to keep fighting the good fightfor any creature that can't defend itself against human monsters. -Caroline From:glenda Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To:felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgTo:felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject:Re: OT: Severely OT, dog fights and NFL playerDate:Wed, 18 Jul 2007 18:04:49 -0700 (PDT)MELISSA,THANK YOU FOR CALLING THIS TO MY ATTENTION. I JUSTNOW HAD TIME TO LISTEN TO THIS %^#*(#^*_MR. VICKOMG, "WHAT IS WRONG WITH THESE PEOPLE?" THAT ISEXACTLY WHAT I AM THINKING...GOSH, 6-years maximum is NOT ENOUGH! I"M ALL FORPUTTING A LITTLE ENERGY INTO MAKING THESE GUYSMISERABLE. I DO HAVE TO WONDER WHAT IS GOING ON WITHTHE DOGS ? I SUPPOSE MANY OF THEM WILL BE KILLED,BECAUSE AFTER WHAT THEY HAVE BEEN THROUGH THEY WILL BETOO UNSTABLE TO ADOPT OUT AS FAMILY PETS... HOWABSOLUTELY HORRIBLE.THIS VICK PERSON NEEDS THE RUG PULLED OUT FROM UNDERHIM. THE GUY IS JUST WAY TOO COCKY.I HOPE OUR WHOLECAT LOVING GROUP, DOES TAKE THE TIME TO LISTEN TO THISCLIP INVOLVING M. VICK AND HIS BUDDIES. A few emailsand even phone calls to put pressure on knocking thisguy off his perch is a great idea...I KNOW OUR CATSWOULD BE PROUD OF US...GLENDA--- Melissa Lind [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know this is very OT, but I couldn't stop crying on the way to work this morning after hearing this on NPR. I'm very hormonal right now, but I think that this would make anyone livid. What is wrong with these people? What happened to them? I don't understand these actions which there aren't even strong enough words for. The story involved the NFL player Mick Vick and his involvement with dog fights. They found something like 70 dogs on his property used for fighting. There are many other atrocities that I can't even mention because I'll start crying again. But, here's the story if you want to listen: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=12056318 It makes me feel so helpless and angry and appalled and afraid. Melissa P.S. I'm so sorry this is OT (not even about cats), but I needed to let it out, and I didn't have anyone else to turn to but you guys. No one here at work would understand. Got a little couch potato?Check out fun summer activities for kids.http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mailp=summer+activities+for+kidscs=bz Local listings, incredible imagery, and driving directions - all in one place!
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Ok Done. Sally
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it was always so funny when I worked @ the AHS. The difference between the dog volunteers / walkers the cat volunteers... Dog people seem to really dislike cats, and they needed to have something that wants to please them. Very important. The cat volunteers also liked dogs, but purrfurred cats. The cat people could also appreciate the free spirit of a cat, as opposed to the neediness of a dog. And dogs that do not respect the pack order in the home environment can be considered unadoptable, unfortunately, due to the fact that they will challenge the children. (And other things, to say the least). Can you tell I took a lot of behavioral classes and used to evaluate dogs for intake into our adoption program...? It was actually pretty sad, we would have to make sure the dogs were dummy proof. And Caroline, please do not measure yourself by what others have done, be happy that you are more evolved than most folks and that you are doing something to help, and that you know what is right what is wrong. Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From: Caroline Kaufmann To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 8:31 PM Subject: Re: OT: Severely OT, dog fights and NFL player The Humane Society is overseeing the care for the 52 seized dogs. I fear that some will have to be put down due to injuries and illness. But there has got to be some kind of rehabilitation that is done on the dogs that are not ill/injured beyond repair. Also, I try not to know too much about pit bull fighting because it's too hard for me to stomach...but some females are used just for breeding, so I should think some of the would be salvageable. Again, if you can, log onto the Humane Society's website and you can donate an amount that will be used to help these actual seized dogs. I guess this is just a reminder that our work is never done. Even if you don't do dog rescues or you aren't a dog person, it's still important to give what you can...and even more so, to call attention to this matter to the people out there who are dog people! I think in my whole life I have met way too many people who AREN'T cat people and that has always made me sad, but I can count on only one hand the people that claimed to not be dog people. Thus, I feel like if you take the time to get the word out, there's no end to the positive results that could come from that just because of the shear numbers of people who are willing to stand up against cruel treatment of dogs. All of you people have done more than me for animals and it amazes me the work that each of you do. You all have really inspired me. So this is just a reminder to keep fighting the good fightfor any creature that can't defend itself against human monsters. -Caroline place!
