Re: OT - Zack (explanation of my situation)

2006-09-07 Thread elizamaggie
Phaewryn, You shouldn't feel that you have to justify or defend your decisions to this group or to anyone else. Goodness knows you have done much more for this cat and so many others than anyone else would have.You can only do so much and shouldn't berate yourself for reaching your capacity - it

Re: OT - Zack (explanation of my situation)

2006-09-07 Thread Kelley Saveika
-- Original message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well his OWNERS were going to kill him JUST for being FIV+, before I offered his LAST CHANCE to come here to join the FERAL colony OUTSIDE. I am happy to try the medication, a list member (bless you!) is sending me a

Re: OT - Zack

2006-09-06 Thread Belinda
Well me personally, I'd rather be caged than dead, as long as your alive there is hope and a chance, not saying I'd like it but when your dead .. Did you ever get my email about medication, it really is a very good choice for some cats, Cody being one. -- Belinda happiness is being

Re: OT - Zack

2006-09-06 Thread Belinda
I know cats have territorial issues, but I think at the very least Zack should have the option of changing his thinking or dying. You could have a communicator talk to him. I think cats should be allowed to be cats. Who am I to try to go against their very nature by trying to make them

Re: OT - Zack

2006-09-06 Thread Belinda
This is what Cody was getting kitty Prozac for, it worked very well. It is called Fluoxetine, we tried others first, Amitriptyline, there was another but I can't remember the name, they all worked to some extent, but the Fluoxetine was what finally completely stopped the spraying. I never

Re: Kitty Prozac (was OT - Zack

2006-09-06 Thread Susan Hoffman
Peepers gets 5 mg of prozac daily. Emailed this infoo to Phaeryn off-list but wanted to share it with the group. We stopped ordering the prozac through my vet and started ordering online. I buy the generic 20 mg tablets and cut into quarters. This gives me a 400 day supply for $42.Go to

Re: OT - Zack (explanation of my situation)

2006-09-06 Thread felv
Well his OWNERS were going to kill him JUST for being FIV+, before I offered his LAST CHANCE to come here to join the FERAL colony OUTSIDE. I am happy to try the medication, a list member (bless you!) is sending me a trial of her cat's prozac to try on Zack, if it works, great, but I can't

Re: OT - Zack (amitriptyline - belinda)

2006-09-06 Thread felv
Amitriptyline!? Really, what was the cat dosage for that? I get that already for myself, and it's only $9.00 a 30 day bottle! I wonder if that MIGHT help Zack's aggression? I could afford that... Phaewryn Please adopt a cat from Little Cheetah Cat Rescue!!! http://ucat.us/adopt.html Low cost

Re: OT - Zack

2006-09-05 Thread Belinda
Hi Nina, If you can find a good balance they really aren't sedated, Cody is pretty laid back and very lazy anyway. I did notice he was what I thought at the time sleeping a little more, but I'm not so sure now that that was 100% true. He sleeps a lot now, and if he isn't sleeping he is

OT - Zack

2006-09-03 Thread Nina
Phaewryn, I feel for you with your dilemma with Zack. I have a traumatized kitty, I may have mentioned her, (Matilda), the thought of euthanasia has crossed my mind with her too. If it truly comes to that with Zack, couldn't you cage him and cover his cage at night? The fence fighting

Re: OT - Zack

2006-09-03 Thread Susan Hoffman
Something else to consider, which I have done on rare ocassion with good results, is psychiatric medication. One of my own cats iss on Prozac due to brain abnormalities most likely the result of her mother being starved during pregnancy. I'll skip the long story but my vet put Peepers on prozac

Re: OT - Zack

2006-09-03 Thread Susan Hoffman
Something else to consider, which I have done on rare ocassion with good results, is psychiatric medication. One of my own cats iss on Prozac due to brain abnormalities most likely the result of her mother being starved during pregnancy. I'll skip the long story but my vet put Peepers on prozac

Re: OT - Zack

2006-09-03 Thread Nina
Hi Susan, I've started to seriously consider pharmaceutical help for my psycho kitty Matilda. (A good start would be for me to stop calling her psycho kitty :) ). It will be a last resort and I have to do some research on it. Someone else mentioned Clomacalm (sp?). Have you ever heard of

Re: OT - Zack

2006-09-03 Thread Susan Hoffman
For Peepers, Prozac is not a sedative. It effects serotonin levels in the brain. Her's are haywire anyway. I think of it like lithium given to someone who is bipolar, replacing something that should have been there to start with.Great book on psycho-kitties and their treatment: The Cat Who

Re: OT - Zack

2006-09-03 Thread felv
Mackenziewas my favorite feral. I see him once a month or so, Zack scares them all away most of the time. I do know he's alive, but that's about all I know. Him and Spooky (the bw FIV+ male) seem to have buddied up, as they appear together when they come. Hopefully that brings them the

Re: OT - Zack

2006-09-03 Thread felv
The problem is two dominate males in one territory. It's just unnatural. I'd rather have one normal, well adjusted dominant male cat in the house (Doobie), than two drugged into submission males (and I would have to drug them both, as they are equally aggressive to each other). Ithink cats

Re: OT - Zack

2006-09-03 Thread Susan Hoffman
Try craigslist. Ask for a foster or foster-to-adopt situation. Be honest that he needs an only-cat home butsing his praises -- handsome, great with dogs, etc. -- too. Plan on delivering to his new home so you can do a home inspection at the same time. Require a vet reference. Ask a $20 adoption

RE: OT - Zack

2006-09-03 Thread Diane Rosenfeldt
Phaerwyn, I certainly respect the depth of your feeling on the subject, but I think your personal take on the *human* need for physical freedom is clouding your perceptions of what the CAT would want. Remember that they're lair animals, so cages judiciously used don't automatically scream

Re: OT - Zack

2006-09-03 Thread felv
Nina, I sell cat collars that say "Crazy Cat" on them and have images of psycho cats all over them, LOL! I also have "fat cat" "stinky cat" "princess cat" and lots others.Crazy cat:http://ucat.us/beastiebands/crazycat.jpg Doobie wears a "Fat Cat" collar, he doesn't seem too very offended...

Re: OT - Zack

2006-09-03 Thread felv
lexan... ok, I'll look into that, thanks Karen! I was under the impression that anything clear was grossly expensive, I guess I was wrong. I have to do something, cause even thick quilts can't keep Doobie away from the cage when Zack is in there. Right now I have the mat that my desk chair

RE: OT - Zack

2006-09-03 Thread Susan Hoffman
Putting Peepers on Prozac was a last resort. When we drove to the vet for her initial evaluation all I could think was how that drive easily could have been for a very different and irreversible purpose. We really had to consider the possibility of euthanizing her -- she was so hyper-defensive

Re: OT - Zack

2006-09-03 Thread felv
Well, the problem is my apartment, the bathroom is only accessible through the bedroom, and any cat we've ever locked in there takes to howling all night and keeps us awake. If anyone is willing to donate toward the cause, I would be more than willing to take Zack to the vet for an exam and