RE: Question about different FeLV tests
No, she was dead serious. :)catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe she's just new or trying to be funny??? I certainly would NOT worry about the rabies vaccination. tGina WN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Hideyo and All,I just called my vet and the receptionist did not know what an IFA test was.I also have to postpone Pippin's rabies vaccine until I get back from vacation in two weeks. I assured her that my cats all my cats are strictly indoor cats. Her response was, "Well there's always the chance that a bat could fly into the house."Should I be laughing or finding a new vet office? GinaHideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Western Blot is for FIV, and you want to use IFA test for Felk to determine whether the virus is present at bone marrow level. I mentioned that I did not like antech as their lab results have not been reliable more than a few times. And I prefer IDEXX personally.. but they may send out to another lab for IFA test as not all the lab run IFA test.. lab at Cornell is very very througough, but I think they also send out IFA to someone elsecall Margie at 1-607-253-3900 at Cornell to get a form if you want your vet to send a sample there to find out if they run IFA test there I highly recommend From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gina WNSent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 10:13 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Question about different FeLV tests It's getting closer to the time for Pippin to have her second FeLV test. I want to make sure I understand which test to ask for. Is the IFA test the same as the Western Blot?If not, which test should I ask for? Secondly, is there a specific lab that I should ask for the test to be sent to in California? I recall reading something on this list about a certain lab that was not reliable--is that correct?Thanks!Gina Please visitmy Tigger Tales site!At the bottom of the home and links pages aremy merchant affiliate banners. If anyone uses my links to make a purchase, I will receive a percentage of all final sales.I am going to donate100% ofthe proceeds to animal welfare organizations.This is a great way to shop your favorite online pet stores and give something to a worthy cause. Thank you in advance! Get your email and more, right on the new Yahoo.com Please visitmy Tigger Tales site!At the bottom of the home and links pages aremy merchant affiliate banners. If anyone uses my links to make a purchase, I will receive a percentage of all final sales.I am going to donate100% ofthe proceeds to animal welfare organizations.This is a great way to shop your favorite online pet stores and give something to a worthy cause. Thank you in advance! How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messengers low PC-to-Phone call rates.Please visitmy Tigger Tales site! On the fundraising page aremy merchant affiliate banners. If anyone uses my links to make a purchase, I will receive a percentage of all final sales.I am going to donate100% ofthe proceeds to animal welfare organizations.This is a great way to shop your favorite online pet stores and give something to a worthy cause. Thank you in advance! Stay in the know. Pulse on the new Yahoo.com. Check it out.
RE: Question about different FeLV tests
Maybe she's just new or trying to be funny??? I certainly would NOT worry about the rabies vaccination. tGina WN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Hideyo and All,I just called my vet and the receptionist did not know what an IFA test was.I also have to postpone Pippin's rabies vaccine until I get back from vacation in two weeks. I assured her that my cats all my cats are strictly indoor cats. Her response was, "Well there's always the chance that a bat could fly into the house."Should I be laughing or finding a new vet office?GinaHideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Western Blot is for FIV, and you want to use IFA test for Felk to determine whether the virus is present at bone marrow level. I mentioned that I did not like antech as their lab results have not been reliable more than a few times. And I prefer IDEXX personally.. but they may send out to another lab for IFA test as not all the lab run IFA test.. lab at Cornell is very very througough, but I think they also send out IFA to someone elsecall Margie at 1-607-253-3900 at Cornell to get a form if you want your vet to send a sample there to find out if they run IFA test there I highly recommend From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gina WNSent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 10:13 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Question about different FeLV tests It's getting closer to the time for Pippin to have her second FeLV test. I want to make sure I understand which test to ask for. Is the IFA test the same as the Western Blot?If not, which test should I ask for? Secondly, is there a specific lab that I should ask for the test to be sent to in California? I recall reading something on this list about a certain lab that was not reliable--is that correct?Thanks!Gina Please visitmy Tigger Tales site!At the bottom of the home and links pages aremy merchant affiliate banners. If anyone uses my links to make a purchase, I will receive a percentage of all final sales.I am going to donate100% ofthe proceeds to animal welfare organizations.This is a great way to shop your favorite online pet stores and give something to a worthy cause. Thank you in advance! Get your email and more, right on the new Yahoo.com Please visitmy Tigger Tales site!At the bottom of the home and links pages aremy merchant affiliate banners. If anyone uses my links to make a purchase, I will receive a percentage of all final sales.I am going to donate100% ofthe proceeds to animal welfare organizations.This is a great way to shop your favorite online pet stores and give something to a worthy cause. Thank you in advance! How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messengers low PC-to-Phone call rates.
Re: Question about different FeLV tests
On 8/31/06, Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Always remember, annual vaccinations are very convenient and easy way tomake money for most of the vets (a quote by vets).. so though it maybe required by state law normally, you really have to figure the benefitsand risks of giving it to your cats.. I do not give rabies to my felkand FIV cats and my vets supports it.. I actually do not give any vaccinations to my heart disease cat. My vet has advised me against it as the chances of her dying from a bad reaction to the vaccine are much higher than dying of distemper, Felv, or rabies. -- Vist the Austin Siamese Rescue store and save a kitty life!http://www.cafepress.com/austinsiamese
Re: Question about different FeLV tests
Yeah, that's just bad bedside manner. She was trying to get you to drop it, not trying to be helpful to you or your cat. I'd seek another practice, and I'd write a letter to the VET at the clinic you have now, explaining WHY you left. Phaewryn Please adopt a cat from Little Cheetah Cat Rescue!!! http://ucat.us/adopt.html Low cost SpayNeuter services in VT, and Emergency Financial Assistance for cat owners:http://ucat.us/VermontLowCost.htmlSpecial Needs Cat Resources: http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html The Sofa Poem: http://ucat.us/sofapoem.html Please shop online through i-give and support the Feline Veterinary Emergency Assistance Program:http://www.igive.com/FVEAP Shop at GREAT stores, like Drs. Foster Smith, Pet Food Direct, Musician's Friend, and LOTS more!It doesn't cost you a single penny more, and it makes so much difference to a sick cat in need! No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/435 - Release Date: 8/31/2006
Question about different FeLV tests
It's getting closer to the time for Pippin to have her second FeLV test. I want to make sure I understand which test to ask for. Is the IFA test the same as the Western Blot?If not, which test should I ask for? Secondly, is there a specific lab that I should ask for the test to be sent to in California? I recall reading something on this list about a certain lab that was not reliable--is that correct?Thanks! GinaPlease visitmy Tigger Tales site! At the bottom of the home and links pages aremy merchant affiliate banners. If anyone uses my links to make a purchase, I will receive a percentage of all final sales.I am going to donate100% ofthe proceeds to animal welfare organizations.This is a great way to shop your favorite online pet stores and give something to a worthy cause. Thank you in advance! Get your email and more, right on the new Yahoo.com
RE: Question about different FeLV tests
Western Blot is for FIV, and you want to use IFA test for Felk to determine whether the virus is present at bone marrow level. I mentioned that I did not like antech as their lab results have not been reliable more than a few times. And I prefer IDEXX personally.. but they may send out to another lab for IFA test as not all the lab run IFA test.. lab at Cornell is very very througough, but I think they also send out IFA to someone elsecall Margie at 1-607-253-3900 at Cornell to get a form if you want your vet to send a sample there to find out if they run IFA test there I highly recommend From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gina WN Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 10:13 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Question about different FeLV tests It's getting closer to the time for Pippin to have her second FeLV test. I want to make sure I understand which test to ask for. Is the IFA test the same as the Western Blot?If not, which test should I ask for? Secondly, is there a specific lab that I should ask for the test to be sent to in California? I recall reading something on this list about a certain lab that was not reliable--is that correct? Thanks! Gina Please visitmy Tigger Tales site! At the bottom of the home and links pages aremy merchant affiliate banners. If anyone uses my links to make a purchase, I will receive a percentage of all final sales.I am going to donate100% ofthe proceeds to animal welfare organizations.This is a great way to shop your favorite online pet stores and give something to a worthy cause. Thank you in advance! Get your email and more, right on the new Yahoo.com
RE: Question about different FeLV tests
Hideyo and All,I just called my vet and the receptionist did not know what an IFA test was.I also have to postpone Pippin's rabies vaccine until I get back from vacation in two weeks. I assured her that my cats all my cats are strictly indoor cats. Her response was, "Well there's always the chance that a bat could fly into the house."Should I be laughing or finding a new vet office?GinaHideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Western Blot is for FIV, and you want to use IFA test for Felk to determine whether the virus is present at bone marrow level. I mentioned that I did not like antech as their lab results have not been reliable more than a few times. And I prefer IDEXX personally.. but they may send out to another lab for IFA test as not all the lab run IFA test.. lab at Cornell is very very througough, but I think they also send out IFA to someone elsecall Margie at 1-607-253-3900 at Cornell to get a form if you want your vet to send a sample there to find out if they run IFA test there I highly recommend From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gina WNSent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 10:13 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Question about different FeLV tests It's getting closer to the time for Pippin to have her second FeLV test. I want to make sure I understand which test to ask for. Is the IFA test the same as the Western Blot?If not, which test should I ask for? Secondly, is there a specific lab that I should ask for the test to be sent to in California? I recall reading something on this list about a certain lab that was not reliable--is that correct?Thanks!Gina Please visitmy Tigger Tales site!At the bottom of the home and links pages aremy merchant affiliate banners. If anyone uses my links to make a purchase, I will receive a percentage of all final sales.I am going to donate100% ofthe proceeds to animal welfare organizations.This is a great way to shop your favorite online pet stores and give something to a worthy cause. Thank you in advance! Get your email and more, right on the new Yahoo.com Please visitmy Tigger Tales site! At the bottom of the home and links pages aremy merchant affiliate banners. If anyone uses my links to make a purchase, I will receive a percentage of all final sales.I am going to donate100% ofthe proceeds to animal welfare organizations.This is a great way to shop your favorite online pet stores and give something to a worthy cause. Thank you in advance! How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messengers low PC-to-Phone call rates.
RE: Question about different FeLV tests
Gina,
Maybe if you had said ImmunoFlourescent Assay sp? she could have asked
one of the vet techs?
I wouldn't switch vets just yet - you need to find out if the vet thinks
the way the receptionist does (or not). If it's just her, and you like
your vet, stay. You can always devise ways of dealing (or not) with the
receptionist.
Kat (Mew Jersey)
On Thu, 31 Aug 2006, Gina WN wrote:
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 10:43:55 -0700 (PDT)
From: Gina WN [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: Question about different FeLV tests
Hideyo and All,
I just called my vet and the receptionist did not know what an IFA test
was. I also have to postpone Pippin's rabies vaccine until I get back from
vacation in two weeks. I assured her that my cats all my cats are strictly
indoor cats. Her response was, Well there's always the chance that a bat
could fly into the house. Should I be laughing or finding a new vet office?
Gina
Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Western Blot is for FIV, and you want to use IFA test for Felk
to determine whether the virus is present at bone marrow level.
I mentioned that I did not like antech as their lab results have not been
reliable more than a few times. And I prefer IDEXX personally.. but they may
send out to another lab for IFA test as not all the lab run IFA test.. lab at
Cornell is very very througough, but I think they also send out IFA to
someone else?call Margie at 1-607-253-3900 at Cornell to get a form if you
want your vet to send a sample there to find out if they run IFA test
there I highly recommend?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gina WN
Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 10:13 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Question about different FeLV tests
It's getting closer to the time for Pippin to have her second FeLV test.
I want to make sure I understand which test to ask for. Is the IFA test the
same as the Western Blot? If not, which test should I ask for? Secondly, is
there a specific lab that I should ask for the test to be sent to in
California? I recall reading something on this list about a certain lab that
was not reliable--is that correct?
Thanks!
Gina
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banners. If anyone uses my links to make a purchase, I will receive a
percentage of all final sales. I am going to donate 100% of the proceeds to
animal welfare organizations. This is a great way to shop your favorite
online pet stores and give something to a worthy cause. Thank you in advance!
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Re: Question about different FeLV tests
I just called my vet and the receptionist did not know what an IFA test was. I also have to postpone Pippin's rabies vaccine until I get back from vacation in two weeks. I assured her that my cats all my cats are strictly indoor cats. Her response was, Well there's always the chance that a bat could fly into the house. Should I be laughing or finding a new vet office? My barn owner had several HUNDRED bats in his attic. INSIDE his house. It happens! We have several hundred in the barn loft, too! Steph
Re: Question about different FeLV tests
Not all bats carry rabies, so don't get too paranoid. The following is found @ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bat There are estimated to be about 1,100 species of bats worldwide, accounting for about 20% of all mammal species. Only 0.5% of bats carry rabies. However, of the very few cases of rabies reported in the United States every year, most are caused by bat bites. The following is from: http://www.idph.state.ia.us/adper/common/pdf/cade/rabies_exposure_bats.pdf#search=%22bat%20species%20rabies%22 In incidents where the bat is confirmed as, or highly likely to be, a big brown or little brown bat species, i.e. house bats the risk of rabies transmission is greatly reduced compared to silverhair/pipistrelle species and Mexican free-tail species (not present in Iowa). After careful examination of patient(s) and no evidence of bite it would be permissible to consider not administering rabies post-exposure treatment. And from: http://www.batcon.org/home/index.asp?idPage=91idSubPage=62 Which bat variances of the rabies virus have been transmitted to humans? Rabies virus variances associated with six of the 45 bat species living in the continental United States have been transmitted to humans. These include the silver-haired bat (Lasionycteris noctivagans), the Mexican free-tailed bat (Tadarida brasiliensis), the big brown bat (Eptesicus fuscus), the eastern pipistrelle (Pipistrellus subflavus), and two species that were not positively identified. These are suspected of having been western (Myotis ciliolabrum) and eastern (M. leibii) small-footed myotis. Variances of the rabies virus attributed to bats that commonly live in buildings have been associated with eight human fatalities in U.S. history. Do large bat populations lead to increased incidence of rabies transmission to humans? The largest urban bat populations consist almost exclusively of colonial species, and there is no evidence linking them to increased transmission to humans. Tens of thousands of people have closely observed the emergences of 1.5 million Mexican free-tailed bats at the Congress Avenue Bridge in Austin, Texas each summer for over 16 years without incident. In fact, though Austin, San Antonio, and several other Texas Hill Country towns likely support the highest bat densities in America, they have recorded no human cases of bat-transmitted rabies. Kat (Mew jersey) On Thu, 31 Aug 2006, Gina WN wrote: Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 11:34:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Gina WN [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Question about different FeLV tests Oh my goodness! I didn't know. We haven't ever seen one bat at our house or yard, but there's always a chance and I expect they need to let people know. I will have my hubby take her while I'm gone. Thank you! Gina Stephanie E Caldwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just called my vet and the receptionist did not know what an IFA test was. I also have to postpone Pippin's rabies vaccine until I get back from vacation in two weeks. I assured her that my cats all my cats are strictly indoor cats. Her response was, Well there's always the chance that a bat could fly into the house. Should I be laughing or finding a new vet office? My barn owner had several HUNDRED bats in his attic. INSIDE his house. It happens! We have several hundred in the barn loft, too! Steph Please visit my Tigger Tales site! At the bottom of the home and links pages are my merchant affiliate banners. If anyone uses my links to make a purchase, I will receive a percentage of all final sales. I am going to donate 100% of the proceeds to animal welfare organizations. This is a great way to shop your favorite online pet stores and give something to a worthy cause. Thank you in advance! - Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail.
Re: Question about different FeLV tests
it really depends, tho--bats DO get into houses, and let me tell you--if you find one, and it tests positive for rabies, even if you are SURE it wasn't anywhere near your cats, they will want to confiscate them.. i had a very uncomfortable 10-day wait, as i sat around trying to figure out how i was gonna spirit 12 cats out of the house once while i was awaiting the test results many states now are requiring an annual rabies shot no matter what the rabies incidence in their state is--ours is very low, because we put out bait along the borders, but it doesn't matter. i don't know if one can do the 3-year-vaccine and get away with it or not. even my vets who NEVER used to check require proof that the cats i bring in have current rabies shots check with your state dept of ag On 8/31/06, Kat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not all bats carry rabies, so don't get too paranoid.The following is found @ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BatThere are estimated to be about 1,100 species of bats worldwide,accounting for about 20% of all mammal species.Only 0.5% of bats carry rabies. However, of the very few cases of rabies reported in the United States every year, most are caused by bat bites.The following is from: http://www.idph.state.ia.us/adper/common/pdf/cade/rabies_exposure_bats.pdf#search=%22bat%20species%20rabies%22In incidents where the bat is confirmed as, or highly likely to be, a bigbrown or little brown bat species, i.e. house bats the risk of rabiestransmission is greatly reduced compared to silverhair/pipistrelle speciesand Mexican free-tail species (not present in Iowa).After carefulexamination of patient(s) and no evidence of bite it would be permissible to consider not administering rabies post-exposure treatment.And from: http://www.batcon.org/home/index.asp?idPage=91idSubPage=62 Which bat variances of the rabies virus have been transmitted to humans?Rabies virus variances associated with six of the 45 bat species living inthe continental United States have been transmitted to humans. These include the silver-haired bat (Lasionycteris noctivagans), the Mexicanfree-tailed bat (Tadarida brasiliensis), the big brown bat (Eptesicusfuscus), the eastern pipistrelle (Pipistrellus subflavus), and two species that were not positively identified. These are suspected of having beenwestern (Myotis ciliolabrum) and eastern (M. leibii) small-footed myotis.Variances of the rabies virus attributed to bats that commonly live in buildings have been associated with eight human fatalities in U.S.history.Do large bat populations lead to increased incidence of rabiestransmission to humans?The largest urban bat populations consist almost exclusively of colonial species, and there is no evidence linking them to increased transmissionto humans. Tens of thousands of people have closely observed theemergences of 1.5 million Mexican free-tailed bats at the Congress Avenue Bridge in Austin, Texas each summer for over 16 years without incident. Infact, though Austin, San Antonio, and several other Texas Hill Countrytowns likely support the highest bat densities in America, they have recorded no human cases of bat-transmitted rabies.Kat (Mew jersey)On Thu, 31 Aug 2006, Gina WN wrote: Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 11:34:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Gina WN [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Question about different FeLV tests Oh my goodness!I didn't know.We haven't ever seen one bat at our house or yard, but there's always a chance and I expect they need to let people know. I will have my hubby take her while I'm gone. Thank you! Gina Stephanie E Caldwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just called my vet and the receptionist did not know what an IFA test was. I also have to postpone Pippin's rabies vaccine until I get back from vacation in two weeks. I assured her that my cats all my cats are strictly indoor cats. Her response was, Well there's always the chance that a bat could fly into the house. Should I be laughing or finding a new vet office? My barn owner had several HUNDRED bats in his attic. INSIDE his house. It happens! We have several hundred in the barn loft, too! Steph Please visit my Tigger Tales site! At the bottom of the home and links pages are my merchant affiliate banners.If anyone uses my links to make a purchase, I will receive a percentage of all final sales.I am going to donate 100% of the proceeds to animal welfare organizations.This is a great way to shop your favorite online pet stores and give something to a worthy cause.Thank you in advance! - Do you Yahoo!?Everyone is raving about theall-new Yahoo! Mail.-- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The DifferenceMaryChristineAIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCatsMSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ: 289856892
RE: Question about different FeLV tests
Always remember, annual vaccinations are very convenient and easy way to
make money for most of the vets (a quote by vets).. so though it maybe
required by state law normally, you really have to figure the benefits
and risks of giving it to your cats.. I do not give rabies to my felk
and FIV cats and my vets supports it..
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kat
Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 12:03 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: Question about different FeLV tests
Gina,
Maybe if you had said ImmunoFlourescent Assay sp? she could have asked
one of the vet techs?
I wouldn't switch vets just yet - you need to find out if the vet thinks
the way the receptionist does (or not). If it's just her, and you like
your vet, stay. You can always devise ways of dealing (or not) with the
receptionist.
Kat (Mew Jersey)
On Thu, 31 Aug 2006, Gina WN wrote:
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 10:43:55 -0700 (PDT)
From: Gina WN [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: Question about different FeLV tests
Hideyo and All,
I just called my vet and the receptionist did not know what an IFA
test was. I also have to postpone Pippin's rabies vaccine until I get
back from vacation in two weeks. I assured her that my cats all my cats
are strictly indoor cats. Her response was, Well there's always the
chance that a bat could fly into the house. Should I be laughing or
finding a new vet office?
Gina
Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} o\:*
{behavior:url(#default#VML);} w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}
.shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);}
st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) }Western Blot is
for FIV, and you want to use IFA test for Felk to determine whether the
virus is present at bone marrow level.
I mentioned that I did not like antech as their lab results have not
been reliable more than a few times. And I prefer IDEXX personally.. but
they may send out to another lab for IFA test as not all the lab run IFA
test.. lab at Cornell is very very througough, but I think they also
send out IFA to someone else-call Margie at 1-607-253-3900 at Cornell to
get a form if you want your vet to send a sample there to find out if
they run IFA test there I highly recommend...
-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gina WN
Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 10:13 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Question about different FeLV tests
It's getting closer to the time for Pippin to have her second FeLV
test. I want to make sure I understand which test to ask for. Is the
IFA test the same as the Western Blot? If not, which test should I ask
for? Secondly, is there a specific lab that I should ask for the test
to be sent to in California? I recall reading something on this list
about a certain lab that was not reliable--is that correct?
Thanks!
Gina
Please visit my Tigger Tales site!
At the bottom of the home and links pages are my merchant
affiliate banners. If anyone uses my links to make a purchase, I will
receive a percentage of all final sales. I am going to donate 100% of
the proceeds to animal welfare organizations. This is a great way to
shop your favorite online pet stores and give something to a worthy
cause. Thank you in advance!
-
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percentage of all final sales. I am going to donate 100% of the
proceeds to animal welfare organizations. This is a great way to shop
your favorite online pet stores and give something to a worthy cause.
Thank you in advance!
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Re: Question about different FeLV tests
there's no question that there's a problem with overvaccination, and the issue of using annual vaccinations as a way to get cats into the vet at least once a year
i'd still check with your dept of ag to see if a doctor's excuse would be accepted if your state requires annual RABIES shots better to know in advance than to end up losing your animals.
if anyone on the list is in a state where they KNOW that a vet's written exemption is accepted, it might be nice to find out exactly what their state law says, and for folks (with spare time!) to work on getting that wording added in states that do not have it
MC
On 8/31/06, Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Always remember, annual vaccinations are very convenient and easy way tomake money for most of the vets (a quote by vets).. so though it maybe
required by state law normally, you really have to figure the benefitsand risks of giving it to your cats.. I do not give rabies to my felkand FIV cats and my vets supports it..-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED][mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Kat
Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 12:03 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: RE: Question about different FeLV testsGina,Maybe if you had said ImmunoFlourescent Assay sp? she could have asked
one of the vet techs?I wouldn't switch vets just yet - you need to find out if the vet thinksthe way the receptionist does (or not).If it's just her, and you likeyour vet, stay.You can always devise ways of dealing (or not) with the
receptionist.Kat (Mew Jersey)On Thu, 31 Aug 2006, Gina WN wrote: Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 10:43:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Gina WN [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: Question about different FeLV tests
Hideyo and All, I just called my vet and the receptionist did not know what an IFAtest was. I also have to postpone Pippin's rabies vaccine until I getback from vacation in two weeks.I assured her that my cats all my cats
are strictly indoor cats.Her response was, Well there's always thechance that a bat could fly into the house. Should I be laughing orfinding a new vet office? Gina Hideyo Yamamoto
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}o\:*{behavior:url(#default#VML);}w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}
.shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);}st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) }Western Blot isfor FIV, and you want to use IFA test for Felk to determine whether thevirus is present at bone marrow level.
I mentioned that I did not like antech as their lab results have notbeen reliable more than a few times. And I prefer IDEXX personally.. butthey may send out to another lab for IFA test as not all the lab run IFA
test.. lab at Cornell is very very througough, but I think they alsosend out IFA to someone else-call Margie at 1-607-253-3900 at Cornell toget a form if you want your vet to send a sample there to find out if
they run IFA test there I highly recommend... - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Gina WN Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 10:13 AM To:
felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Question about different FeLV tests It's getting closer to the time for Pippin to have her second FeLVtest.I want to make sure I understand which test to ask for.Is the
IFA test the same as the Western Blot?If not, which test should I askfor?Secondly, is there a specific lab that I should ask for the testto be sent to in California?I recall reading something on this list
about a certain lab that was not reliable--is that correct? Thanks! Gina Please visit my Tigger Tales site! At the bottom of the home and links pages are my merchant
affiliate banners.If anyone uses my links to make a purchase, I willreceive a percentage of all final sales.I am going to donate 100% ofthe proceeds to animal welfare organizations.This is a great way to
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RE: Question about different FeLV tests
My vet wrote me letters for my cats and
animal control accept the letter as exemption.
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of TenHouseCats
Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006
1:55 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Question about
different FeLV tests
there's no question that there's a problem with overvaccination, and
the issue of using annual vaccinations as a way to get cats into the vet at
least once a year
i'd still check with your dept of ag to see if a doctor's
excuse would be accepted if your state requires annual RABIES
shots better to know in advance than to end up losing your animals.
if anyone on the list is in a state where they KNOW that a vet's
written exemption is accepted, it might be nice to find out exactly what their
state law says, and for folks (with spare time!) to work on getting that
wording added in states that do not have it
MC
On 8/31/06, Hideyo
Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Always remember, annual
vaccinations are very convenient and easy way to
make money for most of the vets (a quote by vets).. so though it maybe
required by state law normally, you really have to figure the benefits
and risks of giving it to your cats.. I do not give rabies to my felk
and FIV cats and my vets supports it..
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
On Behalf Of Kat
Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 12:03 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: Question about different FeLV tests
Gina,
Maybe if you had said ImmunoFlourescent Assay sp? she could have asked
one of the vet techs?
I wouldn't switch vets just yet - you need to find out if the vet thinks
the way the receptionist does (or not).If it's just her, and you
like
your vet, stay.You can always devise ways of dealing (or not) with
the
receptionist.
Kat (Mew Jersey)
On Thu, 31 Aug 2006, Gina WN wrote:
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 10:43:55 -0700 (PDT)
From: Gina WN [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: Question about different FeLV tests
Hideyo and All,
I just called my vet and the receptionist did not know what an
IFA
test was. I also have to postpone Pippin's rabies vaccine until I get
back from vacation in two weeks.I assured her that my cats all my
cats
are strictly indoor cats.Her response was, Well there's
always the
chance that a bat could fly into the house. Should I be laughing or
finding a new vet office?
Gina
Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
v\:*
{behavior:url(#default#VML);}o\:*
{behavior:url(#default#VML);}w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}
.shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);}
st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui)
}Western
Blot is
for FIV, and you want to use IFA test for Felk to determine whether the
virus is present at bone marrow level.
I mentioned that I did not like antech as their lab results
have not
been reliable more than a few times. And I prefer IDEXX personally.. but
they may send out to another lab for IFA test as not all the lab run IFA
test.. lab at Cornell is very very througough, but I think they also
send out IFA to someone else-call Margie at 1-607-253-3900 at Cornell to
get a form if you want your vet to send a sample there to find out if
they run IFA test there I highly recommend...
-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
On Behalf Of Gina WN
Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 10:13 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Question about different FeLV tests
It's getting closer to the time for Pippin to have
her second FeLV
test.I want to make sure I understand which test to ask
for.Is the
IFA test the same as the Western Blot?If not, which test should I
ask
for?Secondly, is there a specific lab that I should ask for the
test
to be sent to in California?I
recall reading something on this list
about a certain lab that was not reliable--is that correct?
Thanks!
Gina
Please visit my Tigger Tales site!
At the bottom of the home and links pages are my
merchant
affiliate banners.If anyone uses my links to make a purchase, I
will
receive a percentage of all final sales.I am going to donate 100%
of
the proceeds to animal welfare organizations.This is a great way to
shop your favorite online pet stores and give something to a worthy
cause.Thank you in advance!
-
Get your email and more, right on the new Yahoo.com
Please visit my Tigger Tales site!
At the bottom of the home and links pages are my merchant
affiliate
banners.If anyone uses my links to make a purchase, I will receive
a
percentage of all final sales.I am going to donate 100% of the
proceeds to animal welfare organizations.This is a great way to
shop
your favorite online pet stores and give something to a worthy cause.
Thank you in advance
Re: Question about different FeLV tests
Hideyo, You have such a wonderful vet. When Zevon's rabies shots were due, I called every vet I know to try and get him an exemption. He's 9 years old, has degenerative spine disease, has gotten his shots on time for years, never goes anywhere unattended... Still, I couldn't find a vet that was willing to write him an exemption for the damn rabies vaccine. I think the woman who works at licensing took pity on me, (I kept calling her telling her I was still working on the exemption). She stopped sending me reminder notices and I've just been keeping my head low. Nina Hideyo Yamamoto wrote: My vet wrote me letters for my cats and animal control accept the letter as exemption.
RE: Question about different FeLV tests
well, it being August in the MidWest, it's definitely Little Brown Bat season, so it's not out of the realm of possibilities, but... I think it shows a lack of training for the receptionist - the entire staff atthe clinic I use is very knowledgable - they make a point of having everyone trained to at least understand the questions even if they have to call you back with the answer.here's a thing on their web page about how to choose a vet - scroll down about half way http://catcareclinic.net/for_cat_lovers.htmand here's a snippet from their pageneedless to say - I LOVE my kitties' docsOur HistoryThe Cat Care Clinic opened its doors in January 1987 as the realization of Dr. Ilona Rodans dream to practice the highest quality feline medicine in a pleasant and comfortable environment for cats, while offering clients the support and recommendations to enhance the quality and length of the beloved relationship with their pet cats. Dr. Laura Challoner joined our staff in June 1990. Dr. Mandy Miller joined the team in June 1998.Dr. Rodan was has been actively involved in improving feline healthcare since 1983. She continues to be actively involved in the American Association of Feline Practitioners, and was a member of the charter group to become board certified in feline practice by the American Board of Veterinary Practitioners in 1995. Dr. Mandy Miller also became certified in 2004, and Dr. Rodan recertified in 2005 the only 2 board-certified feline practitioners in the state of Wisconsin.When the American Animal Hospital Association developed its accreditation of feline hospitals, the Cat Care Clinic was amongst the first to receive this accreditation. From the first day, the Cat Care Clinic team members are committed to providing the best care for your cat in a compassionate and caring environment. Gina WN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Hideyo and All,I just called my vet and the receptionist did not know what an IFA test was.I also have to postpone Pippin's rabies vaccine until I get back from vacation in two weeks. I assured her that my cats all my cats are strictly indoor cats. Her response was, "Well there's always the chance that a bat could fly into the house."Should I be laughing or finding a new vet office?GinaHideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Western Blot is for FIV, and you want to use IFA test for Felk to determine whether the virus is present at bone marrow level. I mentioned that I did not like antech as their lab results have not been reliable more than a few times. And I prefer IDEXX personally.. but they may send out to another lab for IFA test as not all the lab run IFA test.. lab at Cornell is very very througough, but I think they also send out IFA to someone elsecall Margie at 1-607-253-3900 at Cornell to get a form if you want your vet to send a sample there to find out if they run IFA test there I highly recommend From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gina WNSent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 10:13 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Question about different FeLV tests It's getting closer to the time for Pippin to have her second FeLV test. I want to make sure I understand which test to ask for. Is the IFA test the same as the Western Blot?If not, which test should I ask for? Secondly, is there a specific lab that I should ask for the test to be sent to in California? I recall reading something on this list about a certain lab that was not reliable--is that correct?Thanks!Gina Please visitmy Tigger Tales site!At the bottom of the home and links pages aremy merchant affiliate banners. If anyone uses my links to make a purchase, I will receive a percentage of all final sales.I am going to donate100% ofthe proceeds to animal welfare organizations.This is a great way to shop your favorite online pet stores and give something to a worthy cause. Thank you in advance! Get your email and more, right on the new Yahoo.com Please visitmy Tigger Tales site!At the bottom of the home and links pages aremy merchant affiliate banners. If anyone uses my links to make a purchase, I will receive a percentage of all final sales.I am going to donate100% ofthe proceeds to animal welfare organizations.This is a great way to shop your favorite online pet stores and give something to a worthy cause. Thank you in advance! How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messengers low PC-to-Phone call rates.Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito"My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile."- Anonymous How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messengers low PC-to-Phone call rates.
RE: Question about different FeLV tests
Whenever you get the notice, could you not tell the animal control you no longer has the pet? Whenever I get it, I ignore the notice or tell them that I found them a home, and they don't really seem to follow up. But, I do have to say that I love my vets.. she squeezes me in for appointments early in the morning before they are even open if I need to see her or, if I ask for any medications I find, she will trust enough to write me prescriptions... with these letters, I wrote all of them for her and she just signed on all of them (I had a total of 20 or so exempted animals)..so I am very fortunate about it.. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nina Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 2:51 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Question about different FeLV tests Hideyo, You have such a wonderful vet. When Zevon's rabies shots were due, I called every vet I know to try and get him an exemption. He's 9 years old, has degenerative spine disease, has gotten his shots on time for years, never goes anywhere unattended... Still, I couldn't find a vet that was willing to write him an exemption for the damn rabies vaccine. I think the woman who works at licensing took pity on me, (I kept calling her telling her I was still working on the exemption). She stopped sending me reminder notices and I've just been keeping my head low. Nina Hideyo Yamamoto wrote: My vet wrote me letters for my cats and animal control accept the letter as exemption.
Re: Question about different FeLV tests
i expect it has a lot to do with what sort of animal-control personnel you have in your area, too--the ones we have in our county now are good, and care about animals and seem well-trained. in the past tho, like when that poor bat fell over mostly dead in my house before the cats even SAW it, they had really bad people who were just into wearing uniforms and carrying guns and intimidating people--the type who would confiscate animals and ask questions about whether they had exemption certificates later. both the health department and the department of agriculture were great--i KNEW that the cats hadn't seen the bat, and i knew just how long it'd been in the house, but animal control just kept saying, well, you don't know if it bit you or one of the cats, we'll just have to take them all if it's positive, etc and the guy was really mean to the poor bat, too (i think of bats as mouse-angels, by the way.) i just don't trust bureacracy, so i like to know the law, and be able to cite section and verse when dealing with idiots who know nothing. On 8/31/06, Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whenever you get the notice, could you not tell the animal control youno longer has the pet?Whenever I get it, I ignore the notice or tell them that I found them a home, and they don't really seem to follow up.But, I do have to say that I love my vets.. she squeezes me in forappointments early in the morning before they are even open if I need to see her or, if I ask for any medications I find, she will trust enoughto write me prescriptions... with these letters, I wrote all of them forher and she just signed on all of them (I had a total of 20 or so exempted animals)..so I am very fortunate about it..-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED][mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of NinaSent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 2:51 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: Question about different FeLV tests Hideyo,You have such a wonderful vet.When Zevon's rabies shots were due, Icalled every vet I know to try and get him an exemption.He's 9 yearsold, has degenerative spine disease, has gotten his shots on time for years, never goes anywhere unattended...Still, I couldn't find a vetthat was willing to write him an exemption for the damn rabies vaccine.I think the woman who works at licensing took pity on me, (I kept calling her telling her I was still working on the exemption).Shestopped sending me reminder notices and I've just been keeping my headlow.NinaHideyo Yamamoto wrote: My vet wrote me letters for my cats and animal control accept the letter as exemption.-- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors!Maybe That'll Make The DifferenceMaryChristineAIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ: 289856892
Re: Question about different FeLV tests...Vaccination pros and cons--input sought
Thank you everyone for the information! I went on an Internet search and found a site on different state laws regarding rabies vaccine. For my home state of California, rabies vaccination of cats is "advised" but not required. Dogs are required to be vaccinated every three years starting at 4 months of age.I share the concern over the risk of injection site sarcoma and the stress of the rabies vaccine (and vaccines in general) on my FeLV positive kitten Pippin. I have a decision to make. If I do not decide to vaccinate her, I've got years and years of pro-vaccination rhetoric to overcome in my mind. It's a tough decision. Your input is most welcome.GinaTenHouseCats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: there's no question that there's a problem with overvaccination, and the issue of
using annual vaccinations as a way to get cats into the vet at least once a year i'd still check with your dept of ag to see if a doctor's "excuse" would be accepted if your state requires annual RABIES shots better to know in advance than to end up losing your animals. if anyone on the list is in a state where they KNOW that a vet's written exemption is accepted, it might be nice to find out exactly what their state law says, and for folks (with spare time!) to work on getting that wording added in states that do not have it MC On 8/31/06, Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Always remember, annual vaccinations are very convenient and easy way tomake money for most of the vets (a quote by vets).. so though it maybe required by state law normally, you really have to figure the benefitsand risks of giving it to your cats.. I do not give rabies to my felkand FIV cats and my vets supports it..-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED][mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Kat Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 12:03 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: RE: Question about different FeLV testsGina,Maybe if you had said ImmunoFlourescent Assay sp? she could have asked one of the vet techs?I wouldn't switch vets just yet - you need to find out if the vet
thinksthe way the receptionist does (or not).If it's just her, and you likeyour vet, stay.You can always devise ways of dealing (or not) with the receptionist.Kat (Mew Jersey)On Thu, 31 Aug 2006, Gina WN wrote: Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 10:43:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Gina WN [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: Question about different FeLV tests Hideyo and All, I just called my vet and the receptionist did not know what an IFAtest was. I also have to postpone Pippin's rabies vaccine until I getback from vacation in two weeks.I assured her that my cats all my cats are strictly indoor
cats.Her response was, "Well there's always thechance that a bat could fly into the house." Should I be laughing orfinding a new vet office? Gina Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}o\:*{behavior:url(#default#VML);}w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} .shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);}st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) }Western Blot isfor FIV, and you want to use IFA test for Felk to determine whether thevirus is present at bone marrow level. I mentioned that I did not like antech as their lab results have notbeen reliable more than a few times. And I prefer IDEXX
personally.. butthey may send out to another lab for IFA test as not all the lab run IFA test.. lab at Cornell is very very througough, but I think they alsosend out IFA to someone else-call Margie at 1-607-253-3900 at Cornell toget a form if you want your vet to send a sample there to find out if they run IFA test there I highly recommend... - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Gina WN Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 10:13 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Question about different FeLV tests It's getting closer to the time for Pippin to have her second
FeLVtest.I want to make sure I understand which test to ask for.Is the IFA test the same as the Western Blot?If not, which test should I askfor?Secondly, is there a specific lab that I should ask for the testto be sent to in California?I recall reading something on this list about a certain lab that was not reliable--is that correct? Thanks! Gina Please visit my Tigger Tales site! At the bottom of the home and links pages are my merchant affiliate banners.If anyone uses my links to make a purchase, I willreceive a percentage of all final sales.I am going to donate 100% ofthe proceeds to animal welfare organizations.This is a great way to shop your
favorite online pet stores and give something to a worthycause.Thank you in advance! - Get your email and more, right on the new Yahoo.com Please visit my Tigger Tales site! At the bottom of the home and links pages are my merchant affiliatebanners.If anyone uses my links to m
Re: Question about different FeLV tests
Find a new vet office, ASAP. The bat statement is laughable, the not knowing what an IFA is is unacceptable in every way. On the bright side, they seem so ignorant, maybe they just didn't DO the in house test correctly in the first place, and your results are the results of bad testing technique, and a false positive. They did pull BLOOD to do the test, right? Some really naive vets will try to use a saliva sample... and then there is a way to run the test which could be done incorrectly to begin with (needs a certain amount of blood, must be clicked the right way, must be timed just so, etc), even with a good blood sample. Phaewryn Please adopt a cat from Little Cheetah Cat Rescue!!! http://ucat.us/adopt.html Low cost SpayNeuter services in VT, and Emergency Financial Assistance for cat owners:http://ucat.us/VermontLowCost.htmlSpecial Needs Cat Resources: http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html The Sofa Poem: http://ucat.us/sofapoem.html Please shop online through i-give and support the Feline Veterinary Emergency Assistance Program:http://www.igive.com/FVEAP Shop at GREAT stores, like Drs. Foster Smith, Pet Food Direct, Musician's Friend, and LOTS more!It doesn't cost you a single penny more, and it makes so much difference to a sick cat in need! No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/434 - Release Date: 8/30/2006
Re: Question about different FeLV tests
My barn owner had several HUNDRED bats in his attic. INSIDE his house. It happens! We have several hundred in the barn loft, too!Yes, BUT, delaying a rabies vaccine two weeks isn't really going to make much difference if it's just a booster shot, and most rabies vaccines have effect long after their common booster date. 1 year rabies is often effective for up to 3 years... besides, bats aren't any more likely to get inside your house OR carry rabies than a squirrel, raccoon, or a mouse, and the chances of it biting your cat and having rabies, if it gets inside, are astronomically against it. Phaewryn Please adopt a cat from Little Cheetah Cat Rescue!!! http://ucat.us/adopt.html Low cost SpayNeuter services in VT, and Emergency Financial Assistance for cat owners:http://ucat.us/VermontLowCost.htmlSpecial Needs Cat Resources: http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html The Sofa Poem: http://ucat.us/sofapoem.html Please shop online through i-give and support the Feline Veterinary Emergency Assistance Program:http://www.igive.com/FVEAP Shop at GREAT stores, like Drs. Foster Smith, Pet Food Direct, Musician's Friend, and LOTS more!It doesn't cost you a single penny more, and it makes so much difference to a sick cat in need! No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/434 - Release Date: 8/30/2006
Re: Question about different FeLV tests
Out of those several hundred bats, how many have bitten anyone or anything? And out of those bites, how many of the victims have died of rabies? Bats get a bad reputation for no good reason, this is simply a case of bat hysteria. Phaewryn Please adopt a cat from Little Cheetah Cat Rescue!!! http://ucat.us/adopt.html Low cost SpayNeuter services in VT, and Emergency Financial Assistance for cat owners:http://ucat.us/VermontLowCost.htmlSpecial Needs Cat Resources: http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html The Sofa Poem: http://ucat.us/sofapoem.html Please shop online through i-give and support the Feline Veterinary Emergency Assistance Program:http://www.igive.com/FVEAP Shop at GREAT stores, like Drs. Foster Smith, Pet Food Direct, Musician's Friend, and LOTS more!It doesn't cost you a single penny more, and it makes so much difference to a sick cat in need! No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/434 - Release Date: 8/30/2006
Re: Question about different FeLV tests
hey, two years ago the vet school at MSU said that they couldn't send out a sample for a western blot because no one did the western blot anymore. On 8/31/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did she say she would find out (from the doctor) and get back to you about the IFA? Or did she just leave you hanging with an I dunno? Phaewryn Please adopt a cat from Little Cheetah Cat Rescue!!! http://ucat.us/adopt.html Low cost SpayNeuter services in VT, and Emergency Financial Assistance for cat owners: http://ucat.us/VermontLowCost.htmlSpecial Needs Cat Resources: http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html The Sofa Poem: http://ucat.us/sofapoem.html Please shop online through i-give and support the Feline Veterinary Emergency Assistance Program: http://www.igive.com/FVEAP Shop at GREAT stores, like Drs. Foster Smith, Pet Food Direct, Musician's Friend, and LOTS more! It doesn't cost you a single penny more, and it makes so much difference to a sick cat in need! No virus found in this outgoing message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/434 - Release Date: 8/30/2006 -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors!Maybe That'll Make The DifferenceMaryChristineAIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCatsMSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
Re: Question about different FeLV tests
That's why, if a bat or any other wild animal ever came into my house, I would carefully remove it myself, and not call the authorities. Why on earth INVITE someone to come into your home to cause you problems and to commit animal cruelty (to the bat)? Phaewryn Please adopt a cat from Little Cheetah Cat Rescue!!! http://ucat.us/adopt.html Low cost SpayNeuter services in VT, and Emergency Financial Assistance for cat owners:http://ucat.us/VermontLowCost.htmlSpecial Needs Cat Resources: http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html The Sofa Poem: http://ucat.us/sofapoem.html Please shop online through i-give and support the Feline Veterinary Emergency Assistance Program:http://www.igive.com/FVEAP Shop at GREAT stores, like Drs. Foster Smith, Pet Food Direct, Musician's Friend, and LOTS more!It doesn't cost you a single penny more, and it makes so much difference to a sick cat in need! No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/434 - Release Date: 8/30/2006
Re: Question about different FeLV tests
I thought so too Phaewryn. I was shocked and then I laughed after I got off the phone. Yes, they did the blood (ELISA) test. But did they do it correctly? After she looked up what an IFA test was, she said that "their lab" processed them. They have an in-house lab for the IFA test?? I'm all confused now. At any rate, I have been thinking about finding a new vet practice. I was going to wait for the second test, but not now. This clinches it for me. I am going to do research on finding someone in our metropolitan area who knows about FeLV and is willing to try the different protocols and treatments if necessary. I live in a small town about 45 minutes away from our state capitol (Sacramento, CA). I'm not sure how much luck I am going to have looking in my area. I will start close to home and branch out.Thank you,Gina[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Find a new vet office, ASAP. The bat statement is laughable, the not knowing what an IFA is is unacceptable in every way. On the bright side, they seem so ignorant, maybe they just didn't DO the in house test correctly in the first place, and your results are the results of bad testing technique, and a false positive. They did pull BLOOD to do the test, right? Some really naive vets will try to use a saliva sample... and then there is a way to run the test which could be done incorrectly to begin with (needs a certain amount of blood, must be clicked the right way, must be timed just so, etc), even with a good blood sample. Phaewryn Please adopt a cat from Little Cheetah Cat Rescue!!! http://ucat.us/adopt.html Low cost SpayNeuter services in VT, and Emergency Financial Assistance for cat owners:http://ucat.us/VermontLowCost.htmlSpecial Needs Cat Resources: http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html The Sofa Poem: http://ucat.us/sofapoem.html Please shop online through i-give and support the Feline Veterinary Emergency Assistance Program:http://www.igive.com/FVEAP Shop at GREAT stores, like Drs. Foster Smith, Pet Food Direct, Musician's Friend, and LOTS more!It doesn't cost you a single penny more, and it makes so much difference to a sick cat in need!No virus found in this outgoing message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/434 - Release Date: 8/30/2006Please visitmy Tigger Tales site! On the fundraising page aremy merchant affiliate banners. If anyone uses my links to make a purchase, I will receive a percentage of all final sales.I am going to donate100% ofthe proceeds to animal welfare organizations.This is a great way to shop your favorite online pet stores and give something to a worthy cause. Thank you in advance! How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messengers low PC-to-Phone call rates.
Re: Question about different FeLV tests
She was going to leave me at "I don't know" and I had to press her to ask the doctor. She said that the doctor "was in surgery" and then said nothing. I pressed again and she looked it up. :(Gina[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did she say she would find out (from the doctor) and get back to you about the IFA? Or did she just leave you hanging with an "I dunno"? Phaewryn Please adopt a cat from Little Cheetah Cat Rescue!!! http://ucat.us/adopt.html Low cost SpayNeuter services in VT, and Emergency Financial Assistance for cat owners:http://ucat.us/VermontLowCost.htmlSpecial Needs Cat Resources: http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html The Sofa Poem: http://ucat.us/sofapoem.html Please shop online through i-give and support the Feline Veterinary Emergency Assistance Program:http://www.igive.com/FVEAP Shop at GREAT stores, like Drs. Foster Smith, Pet Food Direct, Musician's Friend, and LOTS more!It doesn't cost you a single penny more, and it makes so much difference to a sick cat in need!No virus found in this outgoing message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/434 - Release Date: 8/30/2006Please visitmy Tigger Tales site! On the fundraising page aremy merchant affiliate banners. If anyone uses my links to make a purchase, I will receive a percentage of all final sales.I am going to donate100% ofthe proceeds to animal welfare organizations.This is a great way to shop your favorite online pet stores and give something to a worthy cause. Thank you in advance! Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail.
Re: Question about different FeLV tests
You might consider letting your vet (not the staff) know why you are changing practices. If you can do so gently, it might get them to do some self-examining and improve their methodsfor other cats. I'm totally blessed to have the vets I have. Unfortunately, they are now 2 1/2 hours drive from me. However, if something is bothering Dixie, that is where I go. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Gina WN To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 11:56 PM Subject: Re: Question about different FeLV tests I thought so too Phaewryn. I was shocked and then I laughed after I got off the phone. Yes, they did the blood (ELISA) test. But did they do it correctly? After she looked up what an IFA test was, she said that "their lab" processed them. They have an in-house lab for the IFA test?? I'm all confused now. At any rate, I have been thinking about finding a new vet practice. I was going to wait for the second test, but not now. This clinches it for me. I am going to do research on finding someone in our metropolitan area who knows about FeLV and is willing to try the different protocols and treatments if necessary. I live in a small town about 45 minutes away from our state capitol (Sacramento, CA). I'm not sure how much luck I am going to have looking in my area. I will start close to home and branch out.Thank you,Gina[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Find a new vet office, ASAP. The bat statement is laughable, the not knowing what an IFA is is unacceptable in every way. On the bright side, they seem so ignorant, maybe they just didn't DO the in house test correctly in the first place, and your results are the results of bad testing technique, and a false positive. They did pull BLOOD to do the test, right? Some really naive vets will try to use a saliva sample... and then there is a way to run the test which could be done incorrectly to begin with (needs a certain amount of blood, must be clicked the right way, must be timed just so, etc), even with a good blood sample. Phaewryn Please adopt a cat from Little Cheetah Cat Rescue!!! http://ucat.us/adopt.html Low cost SpayNeuter services in VT, and Emergency Financial Assistance for cat owners:http://ucat.us/VermontLowCost.htmlSpecial Needs Cat Resources: http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html The Sofa Poem: http://ucat.us/sofapoem.html Please shop online through i-give and support the Feline Veterinary Emergency Assistance Program:http://www.igive.com/FVEAP Shop at GREAT stores, like Drs. Foster Smith, Pet Food Direct, Musician's Friend, and LOTS more!It doesn't cost you a single penny more, and it makes so much difference to a sick cat in need!No virus found in this outgoing message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/434 - Release Date: 8/30/2006 Please visitmy Tigger Tales site! On the fundraising page aremy merchant affiliate banners. If anyone uses my links to make a purchase, I will receive a percentage of all final sales.I am going to donate100% ofthe proceeds to animal welfare organizations.This is a great way to shop your favorite online pet stores and give something to a worthy cause. Thank you in advance! How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messengers low PC-to-Phone call rates. No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/434 - Release Date: 8/30/2006
Re: Question about different FeLV tests
I'll give you bats can get in houses but consider what the odds are of such a bat being rabid and then what the odds are of the bat biting the cat before you panic. And are the chances greater that the bat will bite and transmit rabies to cat or to you? Dixie Louise lives on a farm but, with her compromised immune system, I will not vaccinate her. Obviously, this is a personal choice but it has been made after consulting with my regular vets and my holistic/alternative vets. Please don't let the tech rush you. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Gina WN To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 1:34 PM Subject: Re: Question about different FeLV tests Oh my goodness! I didn't know. We haven't ever seen one bat at our house or yard, but there's always a chance and I expect they need to let people know.I will have my hubby take her while I'm gone. Thank you! Gina Stephanie E Caldwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just called my vet and the receptionist did not know what an IFA test was. I also have to postpone Pippin's rabies vaccine until I get back from vacation in two weeks. I assured her that my cats all my cats are strictly indoor cats. Her response was, "Well there's always the chance that a bat could fly into the house." Should I be laughing or finding a new vet office?My barn owner had several HUNDRED bats in his attic. INSIDE his house. It happens! We have several hundred in the barn loft, too!Steph Please visitmy Tigger Tales site! At the bottom of the home and links pages aremy merchant affiliate banners. If anyone uses my links to make a purchase, I will receive a percentage of all final sales.I am going to donate100% ofthe proceeds to animal welfare organizations.This is a great way to shop your favorite online pet stores and give something to a worthy cause. Thank you in advance! Do you Yahoo!?Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail. No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/434 - Release Date: 8/30/2006
Re: Question about different FeLV tests
Marilyn,That's a good idea. I am going to do exactly that. I think simply letting the vet know what happened, what the receptionist said and how she dealt with me, might help improve their methods.GinaMarylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You might consider letting your vet (not the staff) know why you are changing practices. If you can do so gently, it might get them to do some self-examining and improve their methodsfor other cats. I'm totally blessed to have the vets I have. Unfortunately, they are now 2 1/2 hours drive from me. However, if something is bothering Dixie, that is where I go. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis- Original Message -From:GinaWNTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 11:56PM Subject: Re: Question about differentFeLV tests I thought so too Phaewryn. I was shocked and then Ilaughed after I got off the phone. Yes, they did the blood (ELISA) test.But did they do it correctly? After she looked up what an IFA test was,she said that "their lab" processed them. They have an in-house lab forthe IFA test?? I'm all confused now. At any rate, I havebeen thinking about finding a new vet practice. I was going to wait forthe second test, but not now. This clinches it for me. I am goingto do research on finding someone in our metropolitan area who knows aboutFeLV and is willing to try the different protocols and treatments ifnecessary. I live in a small town about 45 minutes away from our statecapitol (Sacramento, CA). I'm not sure how much luck I am going to havelooking in my area. I will start close to home and branchout.Thank you,Gina[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Find a new vet office, ASAP. The bat statement is laughable, the not knowing what an IFA is is unacceptable in every way. On the bright side, they seem so ignorant, maybe they just didn't DO the in house test correctly in the first place, and your results are the results of bad testing technique, and a false positive. They did pull BLOOD to do the test, right? Some really naive vets will try to use a saliva sample... and then there is a way to run the test which could be done incorrectly to begin with (needs a certain amount of blood, must be clicked the right way, must be timed just so, etc), even with a good blood sample. Phaewryn Please adopt a cat from Little Cheetah Cat Rescue!!! http://ucat.us/adopt.html Low cost SpayNeuter services in VT, and Emergency Financial Assistance for cat owners:http://ucat.us/VermontLowCost.htmlSpecial Needs Cat Resources: http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html The Sofa Poem: http://ucat.us/sofapoem.html Please shop online through i-give and support the Feline Veterinary Emergency Assistance Program:http://www.igive.com/FVEAP Shop at GREAT stores, like Drs. Foster Smith, Pet Food Direct, Musician's Friend, and LOTS more!It doesn't cost you a single penny more, and it makes so much difference to a sick cat in need!No virus found in this outgoing message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/434 - Release Date:8/30/2006 Please visitmy TiggerTales site!On the fundraising page aremy merchant affiliatebanners. If anyone uses my links to make a purchase, I will receive apercentage of all final sales.I am going todonate100% ofthe proceeds to animal welfareorganizations.This is a great way to shop your favoriteonline pet stores and give something to a worthy cause. Thankyou in advance! How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messengers low PC-to-Phonecall rates. No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG FreeEdition.Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/434 - Release Date:8/30/2006Please visitmy Tigger Tales site! On the fundraising page aremy merchant affiliate banners. If anyone uses my links to make a purchase, I will receive a percentage of all final sales.I am going to donate100% ofthe proceeds to animal welfare organizations.This is a great way to shop your favorite online pet stores and give something to a worthy cause. Thank you in advance! Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min.
