Re: Question about throwing off the virus and my vet's opinion
Thank you all for responding. I cannot tell you how much I appreciate having found this support group! Gina and Pippin TenHouseCats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i go for 120 days for a retest, just to make sure On 8/2/06, catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree. I think most positives are caught later in life because they tested 'negative' at a young age and were never retested and had it all along. I would retest in 90 days if I were you. After that I would act according to those results. t TenHouseCats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:by that logic, ANY cat who tests negative could be "harboring" the virus because who knows if they might have tested positive at some point in their lives. i'm sorry that i don't have the time right now to do the research, but it's fairly well documented that 70% of healthy adult cats exposed to the virus will throw it off. maybe someone else on the list has the citations... On 8/2/06, Gina WN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Everyone,A week ago when I took Pippin to the vet,I asked my vet about the upcoming second FeLV test that Pippin is going to have in September. I asked her if she agrees that cats can throw off the virus after having tested positive.She said she does not believe so, that she believes that cats who test negative after having tested positive are "harboring the virus" and that it can show up at any time in the future. We are going to keep Pippin regardless of her FeLV status.I dowonder if thisvet'sbelief systemcould affect the care my girl receives if she does develop symptoms.What kinds of questions should I ask on behalf of Pippin? What should I look for in a vet treating a cat with FeLV? Thank you! Gina No heaven wil not ever Heaven be Unless my cats are there to welcome me.--epitaph in a pet cemetery Tiggertales ~ a site about our beloved felines Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. -- MaryChristineAIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCatsMSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ: 289856892-- MaryChristineAIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCatsMSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ: 289856892No heaven wil not ever Heaven be Unless my cats are there to welcome me.--epitaph in a pet cemetery Tiggertales ~ a site about our beloved felines Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free.
Question about throwing off the virus and my vet's opinion
Hi Everyone,A week ago when I took Pippin to the vet,I asked my vet about the upcoming second FeLV test that Pippin is going to have in September. I asked her if she agrees that cats can throw off the virus after having tested positive.She said she does not believe so, that she believes that cats who test negative after having tested positive are "harboring the virus" and that it can show up at any time in the future. We are going to keep Pippin regardless of her FeLV status.I dowonder if thisvet'sbelief systemcould affect the care my girl receives if she does develop symptoms.What kinds of questions should I ask on behalf of Pippin? What should I look for in a vet treating a cat with FeLV?Thank you! GinaNo heaven wil not ever Heaven be Unless my cats are there to welcome me.--epitaph in a pet cemetery Tiggertales ~ a site about our beloved felines Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less.
Re: Question about throwing off the virus and my vet's opinion
My cat did throw off the virus and tested negative for many years on both tests. I would look for a vet with the philosophy that a cat with FELV can live many years with proper care. Bonnie in WI http://grants.library.wisc.edu/organizations/animals.html http://savingspaldingpets.blogspot.com/ http://www.bestfriends.org/nomorehomelesspets/pdf/walkforanimals.pdf - Original Message - From: Gina WN [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, August 2, 2006 1:58 am Subject: Question about throwing off the virus and my vet's opinion To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Hi Everyone, A week ago when I took Pippin to the vet, I asked my vet about the upcoming second FeLV test that Pippin is going to have in September. I asked her if she agrees that cats can throw off the virus after having tested positive. She said she does not believe so, that she believes that cats who test negative after having tested positive are harboring the virus and that it can show up at any time in the future. We are going to keep Pippin regardless of her FeLV status. I do wonder if this vet's belief system could affect the care my girl receives if she does develop symptoms. What kinds of questions should I ask on behalf of Pippin? What should I look for in a vet treating a cat with FeLV? Thank you! Gina No heaven wil not ever Heaven be Unless my cats are there to welcome me.--epitaph in a pet cemetery Tiggertales ~ a site about our beloved felines - Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less.
Re: Question about throwing off the virus and my vet's opinion
Because learning from others in this group, I use daily interferon alpha with my FELV kitties, and believe it helps. Other people use the more expensive Interferon Omega (and it's harder to get).You might ask her about interferon, and see what she knows and what she believes there... just a thought.GloriaOn Aug 2, 2006, at 1:57 AM, Gina WN wrote:Hi Everyone, A week ago when I took Pippin to the vet, I asked my vet about the upcoming second FeLV test that Pippin is going to have in September. I asked her if she agrees that cats can throw off the virus after having tested positive. She said she does not believe so, that she believes that cats who test negative after having tested positive are "harboring the virus" and that it can show up at any time in the future. We are going to keep Pippin regardless of her FeLV status. I do wonder if this vet's belief system could affect the care my girl receives if she does develop symptoms. What kinds of questions should I ask on behalf of Pippin? What should I look for in a vet treating a cat with FeLV? Thank you! GinaNo heaven wil not ever Heaven be Unless my cats are there to welcome me.--epitaph in a pet cemetery Tiggertales ~ a site about our beloved felines Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less.
Re: Question about throwing off the virus and my vet's opinion
Gina,When Angel tested positive on July 17, I had asked the vet the same question and he said he wouldn't even bother giving Angel another test. I was appalled. I am still looking for a "good" vet who will feel comfortable treating Angel. I will be watching to see what responses you get about what questions to ask when looking for a new vet, etc. Good luck to you.KarenGina WN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Hi Everyone,A week ago when I took Pippin to the vet,I asked my vet about the upcoming second FeLV test that Pippin is going to have in September. I asked her if she agrees that cats can throw off the virus after having tested positive.She said she does not believe so, that she believes that cats who test negative after having tested positive are "harboring the virus" and that it can show up at any time in the future. We are going to keep Pippin regardless of her FeLV status.I dowonder if thisvet'sbelief systemcould affect the care my girl receives if she does develop symptoms.What kinds of questions should I ask on behalf of Pippin? What should I look for in a vet treating a cat with FeLV?Thank you! Gina No heaven wil not ever Heaven be Unless my cats are there to welcome me.--epitaph in a pet cemetery Tiggertales ~ a site about our beloved felines Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. Groups are talking. Were listening. Check out the handy changes to Yahoo! Groups.
Re: Question about throwing off the virus and my vet's opinion
Hi Gina, I can't say this vet is not correct. No one knows the real answer, therefore, we're all just guessing at this point. However, like you said, I am concerned that your vet might allow this opinion to affect Pippin's level of care. I always follow my gut instinct when I don't have the answers. If you like this vet, then stay with her. But if you feel uncomfortable with her, then there's nothing wrong with picking up the phone and calling around to different vets offices and asking the vets themselves what their opinion is on treating FeLV positives. You can get a good feel by speaking with a vet on the phone and any vet that won't talk to you directly, I wouldn't waste any more time wondering if they would be a good vet. Compassion and gentle care is what I look for in a vet, and also the willingness to try new protocols if I ask. A vet that knows they don't know everything and still willing to learn is a good vet. :) Wendy --- Gina WN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Everyone, A week ago when I took Pippin to the vet, I asked my vet about the upcoming second FeLV test that Pippin is going to have in September. I asked her if she agrees that cats can throw off the virus after having tested positive. She said she does not believe so, that she believes that cats who test negative after having tested positive are harboring the virus and that it can show up at any time in the future. We are going to keep Pippin regardless of her FeLV status. I do wonder if this vet's belief system could affect the care my girl receives if she does develop symptoms. What kinds of questions should I ask on behalf of Pippin? What should I look for in a vet treating a cat with FeLV? Thank you! Gina No heaven wil not ever Heaven be Unless my cats are there to welcome me.--epitaph in a pet cemetery Tiggertales ~ a site about our beloved felines - Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Question about throwing off the virus and my vet's opinion
Gina, I second Wendy's opinion. My vet told me flat out that she had little experience with + kitties, but, because it's a multi-vet office with lots of resources,she's decided to use this as a learning experience. So she's talking to the other vets, doing research on various treatments, and is excellent about talking with me (versus at me). I know some people would prefer a more knowledgable vet, but she is trying and she genuinely seems to care about Lucy and Izzie and that's really important to me. I can tell by talking with her about the spay surgery that she has already learned a lot about + kitties, I think the most important being that not to underestimate a kitty's strength and will to live! Maggie -- Original message -- From: wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Gina, I can't say this vet is not correct. No one knows the real answer, therefore, we're all just guessing at this point. However, like you said, I am concerned that your vet might allow this opinion to affect Pippin's level of care. I always follow my gut instinct when I don't have the answers. If you like this vet, then stay with her. But if you feel uncomfortable with her, then there's nothing wrong with picking up the phone and calling around to different vets offices and asking the vets themselves what their opinion is on treating FeLV positives. You can get a good feel by speaking with a vet on the phone and any vet that won't talk to you directly, I wouldn't waste any more time wondering if they would be a good vet. Compassion and gentle care is what I look for in a vet, and also the willingness to try new protocols if I ask. A vet that knows they don't know everything and still willing to learn is a good vet. :) Wendy --- Gina WN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:Hi Everyone, A week ago when I took Pippin to the vet, I asked my vet about the upcoming second FeLV test that Pippin is going to have in September. I asked her if she agrees that cats can throw off the virus after having tested positive. She said she does not believe so, that she believes that cats who test negative after having tested positive are "harboring the virus" and that it can show up at any time in the future. We are going to keep Pippin regardless of her FeLV status. I do wonder if this vet's belief system could affect the care my girl receives if she does develop symptoms. What kinds of questions should I ask on behalf of Pippin? What should I look for in a vet treating a cat with FeLV? Thank you! Gina No heaven wil not ever Heaven be Unless my cats are there to welcome me.--epitaph in a pet cemetery Tiggertales ~ a site about our beloved felines - Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less.__ ; Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Question about throwing off the virus and my vet's opinion
by that logic, ANY cat who tests negative could be harboring the virus because who knows if they might have tested positive at some point in their lives. i'm sorry that i don't have the time right now to do the research, but it's fairly well documented that 70% of healthy adult cats exposed to the virus will throw it off. maybe someone else on the list has the citations... On 8/2/06, Gina WN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Everyone, A week ago when I took Pippin to the vet,I asked my vet about the upcoming second FeLV test that Pippin is going to have in September. I asked her if she agrees that cats can throw off the virus after having tested positive.She said she does not believe so, that she believes that cats who test negative after having tested positive are harboring the virus and that it can show up at any time in the future. We are going to keep Pippin regardless of her FeLV status.I dowonder if thisvet'sbelief systemcould affect the care my girl receives if she does develop symptoms.What kinds of questions should I ask on behalf of Pippin? What should I look for in a vet treating a cat with FeLV? Thank you! Gina No heaven wil not ever Heaven be Unless my cats are there to welcome me.--epitaph in a pet cemetery Tiggertales ~ a site about our beloved felines Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. -- MaryChristineAIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCatsMSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ: 289856892
Re: Question about throwing off the virus and my vet's opinion
That is a GOOD point! The vet that we went to said it is "unusual" for a kitten to test positive for felv...but then I brought up the point that they don't even routinely test kittens...they don't test them unless you ask for it. So, who knows how many kittens/cats actually have it and aren't tested because they have no symptoms. TenHouseCats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:by that logic, ANY cat who tests negative could be "harboring" the virus because who knows if they might have tested positive at some point in their lives. i'm sorry that i don't have the time right now to do the research, but it's fairly well documented that 70% of healthy adult cats exposed to the virus will throw it off. maybe someone else on the list has the citations... On 8/2/06, Gina WN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Everyone,A week ago when I took Pippin to the vet,I asked my vet about the upcoming second FeLV test that Pippin is going to have in September. I asked her if she agrees that cats can throw off the virus after having tested positive.She said she does not believe so, that she believes that cats who test negative after having tested positive are "harboring the virus" and that it can show up at any time in the future. We are going to keep Pippin regardless of her FeLV status.I dowonder if thisvet'sbelief systemcould affect the care my girl receives if she does develop symptoms.What kinds of questions should I ask on behalf of Pippin? What should I look for in a vet treating a cat with FeLV? Thank you! Gina No heaven wil not ever Heaven be Unless my cats are there to welcome me.--epitaph in a pet cemetery Tiggertales ~ a site about our beloved felines Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. -- MaryChristineAIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCatsMSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ: 289856892 Groups are talking. Were listening. Check out the handy changes to Yahoo! Groups.
Re: Question about throwing off the virus and my vet's opinion
well, look at FIV--testing for FeLV has been much more common than for FIV. we constantly see people with 10 to 15-year-old cats who are tested as part of a regular workup, and suddenly are found to have FIV--they panic, andare too often told to euthanize based solely on that. um,folks? your positive older cat--the oneyou took inoff the streets andneutered when he was a youngster, has had FIV all that time without any problem--he's no sicker now that you know than he was all the previous years. granted, FIV is NOT the same as FeLV, and i think we'd all be incredibly happy to have lots of 15-year-old FeLV positives wandering around, but one test result shouldn't make the difference between life and death. and then there's the question of false positives--NO test is 100% accurate 100% of the time--with FIV, the snap test is notorious for giving false positives, which is why the western blot is considered theconfirmatory test. another reason why we all need to make sure we list our vets at www.adopt.bemikitties.com -- i'll take a vet who is willing to learn and work with their clients ANY DAY over one who won't, even if they aren't necessarily on the cutting edge of the research. On 8/2/06, kandbz_ mom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That is a GOOD point! The vet that we went to said it is unusual for a kitten to test positive for felv...but then I brought up the point that they don't even routinely test kittens...they don't test them unless you ask for it. So, who knows how many kittens/cats actually have it and aren't tested because they have no symptoms. TenHouseCats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: by that logic, ANY cat who tests negative could be harboring the virus because who knows if they might have tested positive at some point in their lives. i'm sorry that i don't have the time right now to do the research, but it's fairly well documented that 70% of healthy adult cats exposed to the virus will throw it off. maybe someone else on the list has the citations... On 8/2/06, Gina WN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Everyone, A week ago when I took Pippin to the vet,I asked my vet about the upcoming second FeLV test that Pippin is going to have in September. I asked her if she agrees that cats can throw off the virus after having tested positive.She said she does not believe so, that she believes that cats who test negative after having tested positive are harboring the virus and that it can show up at any time in the future. We are going to keep Pippin regardless of her FeLV status.I dowonder if thisvet'sbelief systemcould affect the care my girl receives if she does develop symptoms.What kinds of questions should I ask on behalf of Pippin? What should I look for in a vet treating a cat with FeLV? Thank you! Gina No heaven wil not ever Heaven be Unless my cats are there to welcome me.--epitaph in a pet cemetery Tiggertales ~ a site about our beloved felines Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. -- MaryChristineAIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCatsMSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ: 289856892 Groups are talking. We´re listening. Check out the handy changes to Yahoo! Groups. -- MaryChristineAIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCatsMSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ: 289856892
RE: Question about throwing off the virus and my vet's opinion
Title: Message When you are talking to your potential new vets, I guess the first Q would be "What do you recommend for a cat that tests FeLV pos?" If the word "euth..." starts to emerge from their mouth, run as fast as you can with kitty in the opposite direction. If they respond in a resigned fashion, giving you the impression caring for an FeLV cat is a waste of time, and only going to bring you heartbreak and pain, do likewise. You need your vet to be genuinely interested in giving your little soul even *more* consideration than "normal" cats. Not less. And you want him or her to be up to date on FeLV info. Thanks to dedicated folks on this list, there is no better source of info on FeLV than here, so the vets you talk to (tho they may not know it) have a hard act to follow. You'll be able to tell a lot from their general attitudefollow your gut, IMHO. Good luck. You're wise to look around now. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gina WNSent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 1:58 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Question about throwing off the virus and my vet's opinion Hi Everyone, A week ago when I took Pippin to the vet,I asked my vet about the upcoming second FeLV test that Pippin is going to have in September. I asked her if she agrees that cats can throw off the virus after having tested positive.She said she does not believe so, that she believes that cats who test negative after having tested positive are "harboring the virus" and that it can show up at any time in the future. We are going to keep Pippin regardless of her FeLV status.I dowonder if thisvet'sbelief systemcould affect the care my girl receives if she does develop symptoms.What kinds of questions should I ask on behalf of Pippin? What should I look for in a vet treating a cat with FeLV? Thank you! Gina No heaven wil not ever Heaven be Unless my cats are there to welcome me.--epitaph in a pet cemetery Tiggertales ~ a site about our beloved felines Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2/min or less. IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayer should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
Re: Question about throwing off the virus and my vet's opinion
I agree. I think most positives are caught later in life because they tested 'negative' at a young age and were never retested and had it all along. I would retest in 90 days if I were you. After that I would act according to those results.tTenHouseCats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:by that logic, ANY cat who tests negative could be "harboring" the virus because who knows if they might have tested positive at some point in their lives. i'm sorry that i don't have the time right now to do the research, but it's fairly well documented that 70% of healthy adult cats exposed to the virus will throw it off. maybe someone else on the list has the citations... On 8/2/06, Gina WN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Everyone,A week ago when I took Pippin to the vet,I asked my vet about the upcoming second FeLV test that Pippin is going to have in September. I asked her if she agrees that cats can throw off the virus after having tested positive.She said she does not believe so, that she believes that cats who test negative after having tested positive are "harboring the virus" and that it can show up at any time in the future. We are going to keep Pippin regardless of her FeLV status.I dowonder if thisvet'sbelief systemcould affect the care my girl receives if she does develop symptoms.What kinds of questions should I ask on behalf of Pippin? What should I look for in a vet treating a cat with FeLV? Thank you! Gina No heaven wil not ever Heaven be Unless my cats are there to welcome me.--epitaph in a pet cemetery Tiggertales ~ a site about our beloved felines Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. -- MaryChristineAIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCatsMSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ: 289856892
Re: Question about throwing off the virus and my vet's opinion
i go for 120 days for a retest, just to make sure On 8/2/06, catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree. I think most positives are caught later in life because they tested 'negative' at a young age and were never retested and had it all along. I would retest in 90 days if I were you. After that I would act according to those results. t TenHouseCats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: by that logic, ANY cat who tests negative could be harboring the virus because who knows if they might have tested positive at some point in their lives. i'm sorry that i don't have the time right now to do the research, but it's fairly well documented that 70% of healthy adult cats exposed to the virus will throw it off. maybe someone else on the list has the citations... On 8/2/06, Gina WN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Everyone, A week ago when I took Pippin to the vet,I asked my vet about the upcoming second FeLV test that Pippin is going to have in September. I asked her if she agrees that cats can throw off the virus after having tested positive.She said she does not believe so, that she believes that cats who test negative after having tested positive are harboring the virus and that it can show up at any time in the future. We are going to keep Pippin regardless of her FeLV status.I dowonder if thisvet'sbelief systemcould affect the care my girl receives if she does develop symptoms.What kinds of questions should I ask on behalf of Pippin? What should I look for in a vet treating a cat with FeLV? Thank you! Gina No heaven wil not ever Heaven be Unless my cats are there to welcome me.--epitaph in a pet cemetery Tiggertales ~ a site about our beloved felines Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. -- MaryChristineAIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCatsMSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ: 289856892-- MaryChristineAIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCatsMSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ: 289856892
