RE: Sub Q fluids-- 2 Qs
Ok guys, re my 1am Pookie problem (fluid level was not discernible in my new Ringer's bag so I cdn't proceed), a rescue/shelter volunteer I called this morning said I should unscrew the hose, open the bag up and let air in (don't feel dumb Wendy!). I did that and the fluid level magically appeared. (Q 1) BUT will this have caused any possible contamination problem??? (Q 2) I found another bag still ok date-wise to use, and attached a hose to it. Level IS visiblebut the fluid won't flow. Any idea what I'm doing wrong and how to fix? I know it must be simple but science was never my strong point. (Q3) Where is the medicine port on these bags? Is it where the orange cap sits? Or is it the bottom where the water flows out? Thanks for any info! Kerry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wendy Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 12:53 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Sub Q fluids I feel a little dumb here. I thought sub-q meant you would inject fluid in a needle under the cat's skin. I didn't know you were hooking up a whole IV bag to the cat! I assume this is done to rehydrate an animal. I don't think Cricket would go for this. Can anyone give me the simple explanation of sub q? Thanks! __ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com hr IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayer should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor hr This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
Re: Sub Q fluids-- 2 Qs
Hello My Dear, My you have your hands full with this learning curve! You and Pookie, (congratulations btw!), will figure all this out in no time and you'll be feeling like an old pro. I haven't had to administer subq fluids that often, so I don't know how much help I can be to you. I don't see how letting air into the bag should pose any contamination problems. With the fluid not flowing in the second bag, it could be that the hose is crimped, (maybe where the little roller thing is used to stop the flow), or you may not have vented the bag. The ones I've used have a stopper at the top of the bag (with a finger ring to pull it out), to allow air to flow into the bag while the fluid comes out. The medicine port should be attached to the hose, it sort of looks like a Y, you can inject vita, or subq meds into it so that you don't have to give your cat more than one injection. The orange cap that you describe sounds like the place on the bag itself where you can insert a needle to extract fluid into a large syringe to hydrate smaller animals and kittens that don't need as much fluid as a grown cat. One other thing that I've been warned about, when you insert the needle, don't do it directly over Pookie's spine, do it off to the side a little bit, that way if he rears up, there's no chance you'll insert it into his spine, and don't use the same spot on him over and over, vary it. Lastly, calm down when you go to give him his fluids. Put some calming music on, light a scented candle and go at it from a place of calm and certainty that this is going to make him feel better! Are you warming the bag of fluids beforehand? Run it under warm water and then test the fluids to make sure they're just right. I love you sweetie, you're stronger than you think! Someone else with more experience help us out here. Am I on the right track? Honestly, Kerry, if you have any doubts you should call one of your vets and have them go over all this with you, at least over the phone. You'll feel so much better if you know for a fact that you're doing everything right! Nina MacKenzie, Kerry N. wrote: Ok guys, re my 1am Pookie problem (fluid level was not discernible in my new Ringer's bag so I cdn't proceed), a rescue/shelter volunteer I called this morning said I should unscrew the hose, open the bag up and let air in (don't feel dumb Wendy!). I did that and the fluid level magically appeared. (Q 1) BUT will this have caused any possible contamination problem??? (Q 2) I found another bag still ok date-wise to use, and attached a hose to it. Level IS visiblebut the fluid won't flow. Any idea what I'm doing wrong and how to fix? I know it must be simple but science was never my strong point. (Q3) Where is the medicine port on these bags? Is it where the orange cap sits? Or is it the bottom where the water flows out? Thanks for any info! Kerry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wendy Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 12:53 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Sub Q fluids I feel a little dumb here. I thought sub-q meant you would inject fluid in a needle under the cat's skin. I didn't know you were hooking up a whole IV bag to the cat! I assume this is done to rehydrate an animal. I don't think Cricket would go for this. Can anyone give me the simple explanation of sub q? Thanks! __ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com hr IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayer should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor hr This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
RE: Sub Q fluids-- 2 Qs
Hi, Kerry, I don't mean to brag - but now, I have been giving my Hannibal fluid a couple of times a week several months now, and having been educated by lots of educated people from CRF group, I am a bit experience in giving a fluid -- As for your number 2) question, if the water still does not flow, take out a line from the bag and stick it back to the bag again, it happens to me a couple of times. I am sending a couple of links where it gives you tips as to how to give sub Q fluid and also CRF yahoo group - these people know everything about giving fluid - I am going to post your email to see if I can get you answers if it's different from mine... good luck my dear Kerry. http://www.weirdstuffwemake.com/weird/stuff/pets/cats/sophia/catjuice.ht ml http://www.felinecrf.org/giving_sub-qs_syringe.htm#syringe_method [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nina Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 12:43 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Sub Q fluids-- 2 Qs Hello My Dear, My you have your hands full with this learning curve! You and Pookie, (congratulations btw!), will figure all this out in no time and you'll be feeling like an old pro. I haven't had to administer subq fluids that often, so I don't know how much help I can be to you. I don't see how letting air into the bag should pose any contamination problems. With the fluid not flowing in the second bag, it could be that the hose is crimped, (maybe where the little roller thing is used to stop the flow), or you may not have vented the bag. The ones I've used have a stopper at the top of the bag (with a finger ring to pull it out), to allow air to flow into the bag while the fluid comes out. The medicine port should be attached to the hose, it sort of looks like a Y, you can inject vita, or subq meds into it so that you don't have to give your cat more than one injection. The orange cap that you describe sounds like the place on the bag itself where you can insert a needle to extract fluid into a large syringe to hydrate smaller animals and kittens that don't need as much fluid as a grown cat. One other thing that I've been warned about, when you insert the needle, don't do it directly over Pookie's spine, do it off to the side a little bit, that way if he rears up, there's no chance you'll insert it into his spine, and don't use the same spot on him over and over, vary it. Lastly, calm down when you go to give him his fluids. Put some calming music on, light a scented candle and go at it from a place of calm and certainty that this is going to make him feel better! Are you warming the bag of fluids beforehand? Run it under warm water and then test the fluids to make sure they're just right. I love you sweetie, you're stronger than you think! Someone else with more experience help us out here. Am I on the right track? Honestly, Kerry, if you have any doubts you should call one of your vets and have them go over all this with you, at least over the phone. You'll feel so much better if you know for a fact that you're doing everything right! Nina MacKenzie, Kerry N. wrote: Ok guys, re my 1am Pookie problem (fluid level was not discernible in my new Ringer's bag so I cdn't proceed), a rescue/shelter volunteer I called this morning said I should unscrew the hose, open the bag up and let air in (don't feel dumb Wendy!). I did that and the fluid level magically appeared. (Q 1) BUT will this have caused any possible contamination problem??? (Q 2) I found another bag still ok date-wise to use, and attached a hose to it. Level IS visiblebut the fluid won't flow. Any idea what I'm doing wrong and how to fix? I know it must be simple but science was never my strong point. (Q3) Where is the medicine port on these bags? Is it where the orange cap sits? Or is it the bottom where the water flows out? Thanks for any info! Kerry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wendy Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 12:53 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Sub Q fluids I feel a little dumb here. I thought sub-q meant you would inject fluid in a needle under the cat's skin. I didn't know you were hooking up a whole IV bag to the cat! I assume this is done to rehydrate an animal. I don't think Cricket would go for this. Can anyone give me the simple explanation of sub q? Thanks! __ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com hr IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing
Re: RE: Sub Q fluids-- 2 Qs
Ok guys, re my 1am Pookie problem (fluid level was not discernible in my new Ringer's bag so I cdn't proceed), a rescue/shelter volunteer I called this morning said I should unscrew the hose, open the bag up and let air in (don't feel dumb Wendy!). I did that and the fluid levelmagically appeared. (Q 1) BUT will this have caused any possible contamination problem??? just as long as it wasn't open too long bonnie
