Re: Another vet visit for Spencer?

2006-10-10 Thread Belinda
The pepcid did help Fred thankfully, he was not eating good and after starting it his appetite is better, he has gained back the weight he lost. Now his phosphorus is high so tonight I started him on binders, that should also help his tummy feel better, and tomorrow I should get the cafarate

Re: Another vet visit for Spencer?

2006-10-10 Thread catatonya
Pepcid has never helped my cats in these situations either.  Watch for side effects or worsened appetite with the pepcid.   Think of it like this.. I feel sick at my stomach.  I drink pepto bismol to help, but instead  I throw up. ugh. tBelinda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Too much pepcid als

Re: Another vet visit for Spencer?

2006-10-10 Thread Belinda
Steriods will help any kind of inflammation not just inflammation from cancer. They also help many other conditions. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Se

Re: Another vet visit for Spencer?

2006-10-10 Thread Belinda
Too much pepcid also causes stomach upset and can be hard on the kidney's (learned this from the CRF group I'm on). Fred who does have stomach upset and was vomiting foamy stuff, gets a 1/4 tablet a day and most CRF kitties start out on 1/4 EOD, the least amount you need to use to solve the

Re: Another vet visit for Spencer?

2006-10-10 Thread Belinda
Spencer has never been diagnosed with cancer. It is suspected but has never been confirmed, it could be many things going on with him, I personally would take him to the vet. His symptoms of not wanting to eat are exactly what Bailey was going thorough and I will always wonder if his undia

Re: Another vet visit for Spencer?

2006-10-10 Thread Belinda
Sounds very much like pancreatitis, this is exactly how Bailey acted, very uncomfortable when I fed him. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http

Re: Another vet visit for Spencer?

2006-10-10 Thread cindy reasoner
Nina, I am so sorry to hear about Spencer. I am praying that he will start eating again. I know when some of my babies won't eat I will get a rotisserie chicken from the grocery store and sometimes they will eat that. I know it may not help with Spencer. Both of you are in my prayers. Cindy Re

Re: Another vet visit for Spencer?

2006-10-10 Thread Watsdadillyo
Nina I just read the entire group listing! I am sooo sorry about Spencer and I dont have any experience with the sickness part. Pokemon died from lyphomia but I didn't even know she had it!! She got sick and in a short time was gone. Then again I thought she was a kitten and she was 6-7 yrs

Re: Another vet visit for Spencer?

2006-10-10 Thread Lernermichelle
Nina, I am really sorry. This is the hardest thing in the world. Michelle

Re: Another vet visit for Spencer?

2006-10-10 Thread Samiluke
Hi Nina & Spencer,   I agree w/ Michelle about trying some Reglan or Pepcid & maybe some fluids.  That might be enough to make the difference.  Are you on the Feline Assisted Feeding group @ yahoogroups?  They may have some suggestions, too.  I'm pulling for Spencer & will be keeping you bot

RE: Another vet visit for Spencer?

2006-10-09 Thread Diane Rosenfeldt
Nina, I'm so sorry your dear boy is fading. If it's time for him to go, he'll go knowing he was deeply loved. What more could any kitty, or anybody, ask? Give Spencer a hug from me, and take one for yourself. Diane R.

Re: Another vet visit for Spencer?

2006-10-09 Thread Nina
Thanks Tonya, and everyone else. I did give him .5 of a Pepcid this afternoon. This evening, a couple of hours ago, I gave him his shot of dex and smeared his ear with the appetite stimulant. His breath is more shallow than it has been since I began using the dex and he's oh so tired. He's

Re: Another vet visit for Spencer?

2006-10-09 Thread catatonya
Nina,   You and Spencer are in my thoughts and prayers.  It's so hard to know what to do.  I wish I had some advice, but you know him best.   tNina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I have given him a couple of doses of Reglan. I could try using it more and see if it makes any difference in his sympt

Re: Another vet visit for Spencer?

2006-10-09 Thread Lernermichelle
I would guess that if it is actually lymphoma it is small-cell lymphoma, which can grow very slowly, as opposed to large-cell lymphoma, which most of our cats get. Michelle   In a message dated 10/9/2006 6:48:16 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Nina – I know that this

Re: Another vet visit for Spencer?

2006-10-09 Thread Lernermichelle
You didn't upset me. I was afraid I had upset you, and was just trying to explain why I had said what I said.  Please don't worry about it.   Give him lots of pets and kisses, Michelle   In a message dated 10/9/2006 2:26:43 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My dearest M

RE: Another vet visit for Spencer?

2006-10-09 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto
years since diagnosed – I can  find out what she gives to her kitty – it’s pretty amazing isn’t it?   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 11:20 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Another vet visit for

Re: Another vet visit for Spencer?

2006-10-09 Thread Nina
Thanks I'll try assist feeding him that way. I've got some raw chicken thawing. I thought he might be more receptive to something completely different than what I've been offering him. Blessings to you my dear, Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nina, if he lets you pill him, he might let you pu

Re: Another vet visit for Spencer?

2006-10-09 Thread Nina
My dearest Michelle, It made my heart contract to think I might have upset you in any way. All you've done is been kind enough to point out the obvious with the probability of Spencer having lymphoma. I can't tell you how much better your guidance and support has made me feel and how much I

Re: Another vet visit for Spencer?

2006-10-09 Thread Lernermichelle
Nina, if he lets you pill  him, he might let you put a gob of baby food or A/D on the back of his tongue, and it might be less stressful than normal assist feeding.  Lucy really hardly minds me doing that at all-- I do it with her raw food when she is not feeling well. I just put a gob in li

Re: Another vet visit for Spencer?

2006-10-09 Thread Nina
Thank you Leslie. Your description of the indecisive ballet is right on! I'm breathing now. What you say about making a visit to the vet makes sense too. I think I'm going to take Michelle's advice and start Spencer on Pepcid and regular doses of Reglan and see if that helps him begin to ea

Re: Another vet visit for Spencer?

2006-10-09 Thread Lernermichelle
Periactin is cyproheptadine, which it seems like you are already giving him.   You're right-- high doses of steroids can sometimes cause stomach upset. I have not seen it, so had not thought of it.  Pepcid and/or carafate would be what helps with that.  I would start giving him 1/2 pepcid onc

Re: Another vet visit for Spencer?

2006-10-09 Thread Leslie
thing ruled out or in is a stronger pull than waiting and seeing, go to your vet.   You're doing good, even if it feels woefully the opposite.  :)   Leslie From: Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Subject: Re: Another vet visit for Spencer? I have given him a couple of doses of Reglan.  I could tr

RE: Another vet visit for Spencer?

2006-10-09 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto
You can get pepcid injectable version so that you won't have to give him orally. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nina Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 11:33 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Another vet visit for Spence

Re: Another vet visit for Spencer?

2006-10-09 Thread Nina
I have given him a couple of doses of Reglan. I could try using it more and see if it makes any difference in his symptoms. I haven't given him Pepcid. What's Periactin? I'll go Google it. I guess in the back of my mind I was hoping the vets would examine him and exclaim, "Hey! This cat d

Re: Another vet visit for Spencer?

2006-10-09 Thread Leslie Lawther
I know this is a stretch... but could he be eating at a neighbors house?  We feed all the neighbors cats... in the neighborhood and at our property.  I get told by people all the time "What are you feeding those guys!  They obviously like it better here than what I feed them!".  So... is that a pos

Re: Another vet visit for Spencer?

2006-10-09 Thread Lernermichelle
Nina, he is not going to get better. If you thought he might, you should try chemo, as that is really the only thing with a chance at giving him long-term remission.  Otherwise, he might if lucky live a few months, but cats with lymphoma do not just go on living for years without treatment. 

Re: Another vet visit for Spencer?

2006-10-09 Thread Nina
I wouldn't have a problem with the decision if I were sure that what was going on with Spencer was indeed terminal. I can't shake the feeling that he has the opportunity to get better. I don't know if that's because of who he is, that he's determined to live every day to the fullest, or becau

Re: Another vet visit for Spencer?

2006-10-09 Thread Lernermichelle
I would at least up his dex to what it was at before you cut it eod.  I might even up it more than that. Have you tried periactin with him? Or reglan or pepcid for nausea? I would fool around with all of these things and try to get his symptoms under control.   The only thing a vet can do for

Re: Another vet visit for Spencer?

2006-10-09 Thread Nina
Hi Kelley, Thanks for the vote of confidence. I wish I felt as certain that I am making the right decisions for him. I just left a not so clear message on my vet's voice mail asking for her advice. I'm leaning towards taking him in. He's going to starve to death if I don't and then I'll al

Re: Another vet visit for Spencer?

2006-10-09 Thread Nina
I have been using it once a day. I don't think it's that he doesn't have an appetite, I think he's associating stomach upset with eating. Thank you for the suggestion and your prayers, Nina wendy wrote: Hey Nina, Have you tried the transdermal cyproheptadine to encourage his appetite? I a

Re: Another vet visit for Spencer?

2006-10-09 Thread wendy
Hey Nina, Have you tried the transdermal cyproheptadine to encourage his appetite? I am so sorry little Spencer is not eating well. Prayers going out to him. :) Wendy --- Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Guys, > I can't make up my mind about Spencer. He's been on > the dex shots since >

Re: Another vet visit for Spencer?

2006-10-09 Thread Marylyn
I can only tell you that when the Royal Princess Kitty Katt's cancers spread to the point that we knew treatment would make her miserable the treatments stopped...and she very plainly told me and 6 animal communicators that she wanted no more vets. Period. End of subject. And I stoppe

Re: Another vet visit for Spencer?

2006-10-09 Thread Kelley Saveika
Hi Nina,   You know Spencer best, and I know you will make the right decision for him.   That being said, if Spencer was my cat, I'd take him to the vet.  He'll only be poked and prodded for a few minutes.  I don't think one vet visit will make all his remaining time on earth miserable.   Then agai