Re: False positive and negative?

2007-03-14 Thread catatonya
I'm glad Nebs is better.  And yes it is common for a cat to test positive and 
then test negative.  It could be due to recent exposure.
   
  tonya

elizabeth trent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am SO glad Nebs is better and that you  weren't victims of the bad 
information you received.  I hope very much that you can find a good vet.
   
  elizabeth

 
  On 3/6/07, Lori S [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   I have seen a lot of you post 
that your cats posted negative, positive, negative. Is this common? Do some 
cats get over it or are the tests errored? 

My beloved Nebs was diagnosed two weeks ago just after his fourth birthday. I 
took him to the vet with a very bad case of the runs and no appetite. The vet, 
one I had not been to before, told me Nebs was felv positive and would be dead 
in a matter of days. He told me his kidneys were huge and the virus had 
destroyed them. He recommended that I put him down right away. I couldn't do 
it. He was too special and deserved a chance. He told me nothing would help. I 
asked him to do what another vet had done for another cat once, an injection of 
fluids for dehydration. He gave him that, but refused any medication, saying it 
wouldn't do any good. The next day, I begged him for some antibiotics and he 
gave me them but told me not to get my hopes up. I gave Nebs the medicine, and 
some Pet-tonic. The next day he was eating again. In two days, he was eating 
like a hog. In 3 days, his runs were gone. 

It's now been 2 weeks, and instead of being dead as the doctor predicted, he's 
practically back to normal! He's gained almost all his weight back and has his 
swagger again. His third eyelid, present for almost a year, is also gone. His 
stools are more normal than they've been in ages. I am wondering if maybe he'd 
had a severe kidney and intestional infection, and when that was cleared up, he 
was all right. I don't know if he's really felv positive or not, I'll get him 
retested at another vet soon, but even if he has it, his immune system was not 
as 'shot' as the vet said it was. 

So my questions are, are the tests sometimes wrong, and can a cat go in and out 
of good health while being infected? I had always heard the first sickness 
would basically be the last.

I also want to say, please do not give up on your kitty if the vet says to put 
him down, he's going to die. You know your pet better than anyone, and if you 
feel he isn't at his end, don't do it. I am so glad I gave Nebs another chance 
when the vet didn't. 

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Re: False positive and negative?

2007-03-09 Thread Nina

Hi Lori,
Thanks so much for posting your story about Nebs.  Thank goodness you 
were strong enough to follow your heart and not take the advice of your 
vet!  Hopefully your story will help educate your vet, (is this your 
ex-vet now?), and save more lives in the future.  I would suggest that 
you have Nebs tested using an IFA next time.  You could run an in house 
ELISA again, but an IFA would be better confirmation of his status at 
this point.  How long has it been since he was last tested?  I would 
wait at least 90 days before the re-test to give him the chance to clear 
the virus, (if that's indeed what was going on).  Please keep us 
informed and welcome to the group,

Nina

Lori S wrote:
I have seen a lot of you post that your cats posted negative, 
positive, negative. Is this common? Do some cats get over it or are 
the tests errored?


My beloved Nebs was diagnosed two weeks ago just after his fourth 
birthday. I took him to the vet with a very bad case of the runs and 
no appetite. The vet, one I had not been to before, told me Nebs was 
felv positive and would be dead in a matter of days. He told me his 
kidneys were huge and the virus had destroyed them. He recommended 
that I put him down right away. I couldn't do it. He was too special 
and deserved a chance. He told me nothing would help. I asked him to 
do what another vet had done for another cat once, an injection of 
fluids for dehydration. He gave him that, but refused any medication, 
saying it wouldn't do any good. The next day, I begged him for some 
antibiotics and he gave me them but told me not to get my hopes up. I 
gave Nebs the medicine, and some Pet-tonic. The next day he was eating 
again. In two days, he was eating like a hog. In 3 days, his runs were 
gone.


It's now been 2 weeks, and instead of being dead as the doctor 
predicted, he's practically back to normal! He's gained almost all his 
weight back and has his swagger again. His third eyelid, present for 
almost a year, is also gone. His stools are more normal than they've 
been in ages. I am wondering if maybe he'd had a severe kidney and 
intestional infection, and when that was cleared up, he was all right. 
I don't know if he's really felv positive or not, I'll get him 
retested at another vet soon, but even if he has it, his immune system 
was not as 'shot' as the vet said it was.


So my questions are, are the tests sometimes wrong, and can a cat go 
in and out of good health while being infected? I had always heard the 
first sickness would basically be the last.


I also want to say, please do not give up on your kitty if the vet 
says to put him down, he's going to die. You know your pet better than 
anyone, and if you feel he isn't at his end, don't do it. I am so glad 
I gave Nebs another chance when the vet didn't. 





Re: False positive and negative?

2007-03-08 Thread wendy
Run and find a new vet!!!  Your current one is not up
to date on FeLV.  You can get a good idea of which vet
might be up to date by calling some vets in your area
and asking them personally over the phone what their
philosophy is on treating FeLV.  Thank God for Nebs
you did not listen to your vet.  Good for you for
listening to your gut, girl!  You found a great place
for info. on this virus, and I haven't read the other
posts yet, but I know a lot of info. has probably
already been given out.  Everyone here is great.  You
will need to retest Nebs in a few months to see if he
is indeed positive.  Do you know how he may have
contracted it?  Has he been outside by himself any? 
Gotten into any fights in the past?  

Answers to your questions: Yes, absolutely the tests
can be wrong.  Yes, a cat can go back and forth
between illnesses if they are FeLV positive.  The most
important thing is to keep your kitty stress free and
feed him a great diet.  I feed mine Innova Evo dry and
wet.  

Most of us know here exactly what you are saying about
not listening to your vet as the final word.  Many of
us have learned the hard way, after the fact.  I think
it's important that we educate everyone we can about
that fact and about FeLV.

Please keep us posted on your furbaby and feel free to
ask any questions you have, no matter how crazy they
may sound.

:)
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Re: False positive and negative?

2007-03-07 Thread elizabeth trent

I am SO glad Nebs is better and that you  weren't victims of the bad
information you received.  I hope very much that you can find a good vet.

elizabeth


On 3/6/07, Lori S [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I have seen a lot of you post that your cats posted negative, positive,
negative. Is this common? Do some cats get over it or are the tests errored?

My beloved Nebs was diagnosed two weeks ago just after his fourth
birthday. I took him to the vet with a very bad case of the runs and no
appetite. The vet, one I had not been to before, told me Nebs was felv
positive and would be dead in a matter of days. He told me his kidneys were
huge and the virus had destroyed them. He recommended that I put him down
right away. I couldn't do it. He was too special and deserved a chance. He
told me nothing would help. I asked him to do what another vet had done for
another cat once, an injection of fluids for dehydration. He gave him that,
but refused any medication, saying it wouldn't do any good. The next day, I
begged him for some antibiotics and he gave me them but told me not to get
my hopes up. I gave Nebs the medicine, and some Pet-tonic. The next day he
was eating again. In two days, he was eating like a hog. In 3 days, his runs
were gone.

It's now been 2 weeks, and instead of being dead as the doctor predicted,
he's practically back to normal! He's gained almost all his weight back and
has his swagger again. His third eyelid, present for almost a year, is also
gone. His stools are more normal than they've been in ages. I am wondering
if maybe he'd had a severe kidney and intestional infection, and when that
was cleared up, he was all right. I don't know if he's really felv positive
or not, I'll get him retested at another vet soon, but even if he has it,
his immune system was not as 'shot' as the vet said it was.

So my questions are, are the tests sometimes wrong, and can a cat go in
and out of good health while being infected? I had always heard the first
sickness would basically be the last.

I also want to say, please do not give up on your kitty if the vet says to
put him down, he's going to die. You know your pet better than anyone, and
if you feel he isn't at his end, don't do it. I am so glad I gave Nebs
another chance when the vet didn't.

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Re: False positive and negative?

2007-03-07 Thread Kelley Saveika

On 3/6/07, Lori S [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I have seen a lot of you post that your cats posted negative, positive,
negative. Is this common? Do some cats get over it or are the tests errored?



My cat tested positive, negative.  False positives are *very* common.

Some cats do get over it, and test errors are common.

Please, find a new vet!

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Re: False positive and negative?

2007-03-07 Thread TenHouseCats

70% of healthy adult cats can process the virus out of their systems, so a
positive test may only be an indication that a kitty has recently been
exposed because so many cats can be exposed and still get over it,
retesting is vital, and a single positive test should never be accepted as
final in an asymptomatic cat, and quite probably not in a symptomatic one,
either!

and this is WELL DOCUMENTED IN THE LITERATURE, and any vet who doesn't know
it should have his license revoked! there is no excuse for willful
ignorance.

On 3/7/07, Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




On 3/6/07, Lori S [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have seen a lot of you post that your cats posted negative, positive,
 negative. Is this common? Do some cats get over it or are the tests errored?



My cat tested positive, negative.  False positives are *very* common.

Some cats do get over it, and test errors are common.

Please, find a new vet!

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Re: False positive and negative?

2007-03-07 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cats get sick all the time. Getting sick doesn't have anything to do with
FELV. When a human gets a cold, we don't assume they have AIDS and refuse to
give them any cold medicine, do we? The same applies to cats. FELV is far,
far, far, way totally far, from the ONLY thing that can lead to illness in
cats. Your cat could have caught any number of viruses, most of which are
just like colds in humans, and are self-limiting and usually go away on
their own. Sometimes a cat will need antibiotics if the virus causes a
secondary bacterial infection (similar to when a cold in a human turns into
a sinus infection). Oh, and yes, the ELISA FELV test is often inaccurate,
especially when done by someone who doesn't know what they are doing (and
your vet's recommendation that your cat should have been euthanised, without
even a confirmatory re-test proves that he's clueless).


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Re: False positive and negative?

2007-03-07 Thread elizabeth trent

That's a great analogy, Phaewryn...

elizabeth


On 3/7/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Cats get sick all the time. Getting sick doesn't have anything to do with
FELV. When a human gets a cold, we don't assume they have AIDS and refuse to
give them any cold medicine, do we? The same applies to cats. FELV is far,
far, far, way totally far, from the ONLY thing that can lead to illness in
cats. Your cat could have caught any number of viruses, most of which are
just like colds in humans, and are self-limiting and usually go away on
their own. Sometimes a cat will need antibiotics if the virus causes a
secondary bacterial infection (similar to when a cold in a human turns into
a sinus infection). Oh, and yes, the ELISA FELV test is often inaccurate,
especially when done by someone who doesn't know what they are doing (and
your vet's recommendation that your cat should have been euthanised, without
even a confirmatory re-test proves that he's clueless).


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Re: False positive and negative?

2007-03-06 Thread Kelly L

At 06:39 PM 3/6/2007, you wrote:

BOY do you need a new VETand learn to do fluids at home, we can 
all help and there is a pharmacy on line where you can get what you 
need once you become comfortable and I CANT IMAGINE a vet with 
holding treatment!
Congratulations for using your own brain and boy would I be telling 
that vet off!!!

Kelly



I have seen a lot of you post that your cats posted negative, 
positive, negative. Is this common? Do some cats get over it or are 
the tests errored?


My beloved Nebs was diagnosed two weeks ago just after his fourth 
birthday. I took him to the vet with a very bad case of the runs and 
no appetite. The vet, one I had not been to before, told me Nebs was 
felv positive and would be dead in a matter of days. He told me his 
kidneys were huge and the virus had destroyed them. He recommended 
that I put him down right away. I couldn't do it. He was too special 
and deserved a chance. He told me nothing would help. I asked him to 
do what another vet had done for another cat once, an injection of 
fluids for dehydration. He gave him that, but refused any 
medication, saying it wouldn't do any good. The next day, I begged 
him for some antibiotics and he gave me them but told me not to get 
my hopes up. I gave Nebs the medicine, and some Pet-tonic. The next 
day he was eating again. In two days, he was eating like a hog. In 3 
days, his runs were gone.


It's now been 2 weeks, and instead of being dead as the doctor 
predicted, he's practically back to normal! He's gained almost all 
his weight back and has his swagger again. His third eyelid, present 
for almost a year, is also gone. His stools are more normal than 
they've been in ages. I am wondering if maybe he'd had a severe 
kidney and intestional infection, and when that was cleared up, he 
was all right. I don't know if he's really felv positive or not, 
I'll get him retested at another vet soon, but even if he has it, 
his immune system was not as 'shot' as the vet said it was.


So my questions are, are the tests sometimes wrong, and can a cat go 
in and out of good health while being infected? I had always heard 
the first sickness would basically be the last.


I also want to say, please do not give up on your kitty if the vet 
says to put him down, he's going to die. You know your pet better 
than anyone, and if you feel he isn't at his end, don't do it. I am 
so glad I gave Nebs another chance when the vet didn't.



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Re: False Positive

2005-05-09 Thread catatonya
We have been on this list a long time It's still the best too.

tBONNIE J KALMBACH [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Tonya,Yes, this was back in '97. They all had French names, but were all three years old. Little Henry Lee, who I found by a dumpster in Mississippi, was the positive one, and a kitten. None of the others were vaccinated and Henry proved to be a false negative, which is said to be a rare occurrence. I had called my vet from the road and said I wanted him tested as soon as possible. I isolated him in the bathroom and rushed him off for a test the same afternoon I got home with him. I was so happy when he first tested negative. A year later he had a dental and began to go downhill. That's when they found he had the virus in his bone marrow and was positive all along. I think at the time, the vaccinations were said to do more harm than good if one had indoor cats whose chances of exposure were rare - or maybe that was my vet's
 advice. As soon as Henry was found to be positive, all of the others were vaccinated with no harmful effects, even my tiny Sylvie who was born with hypernatremia.I left that clinic because they weren't very good, to put it mildly. Later I heard that a lot of other clients also left as well as the most of the staff. Then the owner became very ill and had to be hospitalized - maybe stress contributed to it.I don't have any positives any more, but since this list is so helpful, and FELV kitties do tend to be more susceptible to other illnesses, I've stayed on to learn things and share what I know.Litte orange Henry Lee was so cute. If I had another kitty in my lap, Henry would climb in right on top of him or her and curl up to sleep. The kitty on the bottom would sort of slide out from underneath and wake up looking like "what happened?"Bonnie with seven kitties and two
 pupswww.elephants.com- Original Message -From: catatonya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Date: Sunday, May 8, 2005 2:30 pmSubject: Re: False Positive Bonnie,  I remember when all of this happened. : ( I don't remember  though if they had all been vaccinated? Also, weren't they  kittens? I am remembering they were born in a closet and all had  French names? It's been a while, and my memory's not what it used  to be!  tonya  BONNIE J KALMBACH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: Dawn, Here is some anecdotal evidence: my kitty, Claudette and my other  kitties were exposed to a positive kitty, my little Henry Lee,  whose  virus had activated. I had them all tested and Claudette was one  of  those exposed to Henry who became positive. I lost all of my  positive  kitties, but Claudette. She "threw
 off" the virus, and has tested  negative ever since.  Bonnie- Original Message - From: Dawn Ritzke  Date: Friday, May 6, 2005 2:51 pm Subject: False Positive   About 3 weeks ago my 10 month old kitty, Smeagol, died from  feline   leukemia.   I was unaware he even had leukemia. The vet never checked him   for   leukemia. At that time I had my other kitten, Moxie retested.   She was   tested at birth and was negative. Three weeks ago she came back   positive.   I recently had her retested again and this time she came back   negative. I   am going to have her tested again in one month. She is very   healthy. I   understand the chance of a false positive is about 3%. I am not   very   familar with feline
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RE: False Positive

2005-05-09 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto








Hi, Bonnie,

How was Henry Lee when you first found
him? He was three years old when you first found him? Did he look very
healthy? 

And how old was the kitten? And how old
was the kitten when you first found him? 



I just trapped a boy kitty who was tested
negative on all the virus and his blood work came back just as perfect 
but I think he might be Gingers brother, who was tested positive on FeLV
 because of what did happened to Little Henry Lee, and someone else I
knew  I did not know how careful I had to be integrating this cute boy
(I think, I am going to name him, Stanly) to the feLV negative group in my
house  I know what happened to Little Henry was very rare  but still
it does happen  since I have so many cats in the house, I really have to
be careful who to add and who not to  I also hear that testing bone
marrow is pretty invasive on a kitty, and I did not want to do that this little
Stanly  but every time I hear the story like little Henry Lee, it makes
me think twice about introducing someone new to the group since I dont
vaccinate any of my other kitties.











From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of catatonya
Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 5:06 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: False Positive







We have been on this list a long time It's still the best
too.











t

BONNIE J KALMBACH
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:





Tonya,
Yes, this was back in '97. They all had French names, but were all 
three years old. Little Henry Lee, who I found by a dumpster in 
Mississippi,
was the positive one, and a kitten. None of the others 
were vaccinated and Henry proved to be a false negative, which is said 
to be a rare occurrence. I had called my vet from the road and said I 
wanted him tested as soon as possible. I isolated him in the bathroom 
and rushed him off for a test the same afternoon I got home with him. 
I was so happy when he first tested negative. A year later he had a 
dental and began to go downhill. That's when they found he had the 
virus in his bone marrow and was positive all along. 


I think at the time, the vaccinations were said to do more harm than 
good if one had indoor cats whose chances of exposure were rare - or 
maybe that was my vet's advice. As soon as Henry was found to be 
positive, all of the others were vaccinated with no harmful effects, 
even my tiny Sylvie who was born with hypernatremia.

I left that clinic because they weren't very good, to put it mildly. 
Later I heard that a lot of other clients also left as well as the 
most of the staff. Then the owner became very ill and had to be 
hospitalized - maybe stress contributed to it.

I don't have any positives any more, but since this list is so 
helpful, and FELV kitties do tend to be more susceptible to other 
illnesses, I've stayed on to learn things and share what I know.

Litte orange Henry Lee was so cute. If I had another kitty in my lap, 
Henry would climb in right on top of him or her and curl up to sleep. 
The kitty on the bottom would sort of slide out from underneath and 
wake up looking like what happened?

Bonnie with seven kitties and two pups


www.elephants.com

- Original Message -
From: catatonya 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Date: Sunday, May 8, 2005 2:30 pm
Subject: Re: False Positive

 Bonnie,
 
 I remember when all of this happened. : ( I don't remember 
 though if they had all been vaccinated? Also, weren't they 
 kittens? I am remembering they were born in a closet and all had 
 French names? It's been a while, and my memory's not what it used 
 to be!
 
 tonya
 
 BONNIE J KALMBACH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
 Dawn,
 Here is some anecdotal evidence: my kitty, Claudette and my other 
 kitties were exposed to a positive kitty, my little Henry Lee, 
 whose 
 virus had activated. I had them all tested and Claudette was one 
 of 
 those exposed to Henry who became positive. I lost all of my 
 positive 
 kitties, but Claudette. She threw off the virus, and has
tested 
 negative ever since.
 
 Bonnie
 
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Dawn Ritzke 
 Date: Friday, May 6, 2005 2:51 pm
 Subject: False Positive
 
  About 3 weeks ago my 10 month old kitty, Smeagol, died from 
 feline 
  leukemia. 
  I was unaware he even had leukemia. The vet never checked him 
  for 
  leukemia. At that time I had my other kitten, Moxie retested. 
  She was 
  tested at birth and was negative. Three weeks ago she came back 
  positive. 
  I recently had her retested again and this time she came back 
  negative. I 
  am going to have her tested again in one month. She is very 
  healthy. I 
  understand the chance of a false positive is about 3%. I am not 
  very 
  familar with feline leukemia. Does anyone have any advice or 
  suggestions.
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Re: RE: False Positive

2005-05-09 Thread BONNIE J KALMBACH
Hideyo,
  Henry was the kitten; he was only about five months old when I found 
him. My other kitties were all three and four years old and one was 
12. One three year old, Phillipe a beautiful goofy silver tabby and my 
golden Angora, Katyushka, the twelve year old, were infected by little 
Henry. I lost Henry first and the other two within two years.

Bonnie

 www.elephants.com

- Original Message -
From: Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Monday, May 9, 2005 6:22 pm
Subject: RE: False Positive

 Hi, Bonnie,
 
 How was Henry Lee when you first found him?  He was three years 
 old when
 you first found him?  Did he look very healthy?  
 
 And how old was the kitten? And how old was the kitten when you first
 found him? 
 
 
 
 I just trapped a boy kitty who was tested negative on all the 
 virus and
 his blood work came back just as perfect - but I think he might be
 Ginger's brother, who was tested positive on FeLV - because of 
 what did
 happened to Little Henry Lee, and someone else I knew - I did not 
know
 how careful I had to be integrating this cute boy (I think, I am 
going
 to name him, Stanly) to the feLV negative group in my house - I know
 what happened to Little Henry was very rare - but still it does 
 happen -
 since I have so many cats in the house, I really have to be 
 careful who
 to add and who not to - I also hear that testing bone marrow is 
pretty
 invasive on a kitty, and I did not want to do that this little 
 Stanly -
 but every time I hear the story like little Henry Lee, it makes me 
 thinktwice about introducing someone new to the group since I 
 don't vaccinate
 any of my other kitties.
 
 
 
  _  
 
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of catatonya
 Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 5:06 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: False Positive
 
 
 
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 too.
 
 
 t
 
 BONNIE J KALMBACH [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   Tonya,
   Yes, this was back in '97. They all had French names, but were
 all 
   three years old. Little Henry Lee, who I found by a dumpster 
in 
   Mississippi, was the positive one, and a kitten. None of the
 others 
   were vaccinated and Henry proved to be a false negative, which
 is said 
   to be a rare occurrence. I had called my vet from the road and
 said I 
   wanted him tested as soon as possible. I isolated him in the
 bathroom 
   and rushed him off for a test the same afternoon I got home 
with
 him. 
   I was so happy when he first tested negative. A year later he
 had a 
   dental and began to go downhill. That's when they found he had
 the 
   virus in his bone marrow and was positive all along. 
   
   
   I think at the time, the vaccinations were said to do more harm
 than 
   good if one had indoor cats whose chances of exposure were rare
 - or 
   maybe that was my vet's advice. As soon as Henry was found to 
be
 
   positive, all of the others were vaccinated with no harmful
 effects, 
   even my tiny Sylvie who was born with hypernatremia.
   
   I left that clinic because they weren't very good, to put it
 mildly. 
   Later I heard that a lot of other clients also left as well as
 the 
   most of the staff. Then the owner became very ill and had to 
be 
   hospitalized - maybe stress contributed to it.
   
   I don't have any positives any more, but since this list is so 
   helpful, and FELV kitties do tend to be more susceptible to
 other 
   illnesses, I've stayed on to learn things and share what I 
know.
   
   Litte orange Henry Lee was so cute. If I had another kitty in 
my
 lap, 
   Henry would climb in right on top of him or her and curl up to
 sleep. 
   The kitty on the bottom would sort of slide out from underneath
 and 
   wake up looking like what happened?
   
   Bonnie with seven kitties and two pups
   
   
   www.elephants.com
   
   - Original Message -
   From: catatonya 
   Date: Sunday, May 8, 2005 2:30 pm
   Subject: Re: False Positive
   
Bonnie,

I remember when all of this happened. : ( I don't remember 
though if they had all been vaccinated? Also, weren't they 
kittens? I am remembering they were born in a closet and all
 had 
French names? It's been a while, and my memory's not what it
 used 
to be!

tonya

BONNIE J KALMBACH wrote:
Dawn,
Here is some anecdotal evidence: my kitty, Claudette and my
 other 
kitties were exposed to a positive kitty, my little Henry 
Lee,
 
whose 
virus had activated. I had them all tested and Claudette was
 one 
of 
those exposed to Henry who became positive. I lost all of my 
positive 
kitties, but Claudette. She threw off the virus

Re: False Positive

2005-05-06 Thread Barbara Lowe
She might have tested postive because she had been exposed to
Smeagol(sharing litter boxes, mutual cleaning) but now has shed the virus.
be sure to read all the info and links on the leukemia website. It can be
very scary to face but with information you will feel more confident. I
would think the vet would wait 3 months before retesting. Which test did the
vet give her? Was Moxie a litter mate to Smeagol?  I am so sorry you lost
him. We all here on this list know how crappy this virus is and have faced
losses of our furkids also. Try to take some comfort that Smeagol is now
pain free and now running and playing beyond the Rainbow bridge. I would
suggest you go thru the archives for info on supplements and vitamins for
Moxie--I have a mixed household-only one postive now and 6 negatives. One of
my other cats was a positive but after several years of MegaPlus vitamin C,
vit E and feeding him a better quality diet of canned food like Wellness,
Eagle brand holistic, Petguard NOT grocery store stuff, he tested negative.
surprised the heck out of my vet. I would also suggest you go to the
www.holisticat.com website and scroll thru their archives for info. Welcome
to the group--you will find very supportive people. it might just be quiet
during this mother's day weekend but I am sure others will email you.
Barbara
- Original Message -
From: Dawn Ritzke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 3:51 PM
Subject: False Positive


 About 3 weeks ago my 10 month old kitty, Smeagol, died from feline
leukemia.
   I was unaware he even had leukemia.  The vet never checked him for
 leukemia.  At that time I had my other kitten, Moxie retested.  She was
 tested at birth and was negative.  Three weeks ago she came back positive.
 I recently had her retested again and this time she came back negative.  I
 am going to have her tested again in one month.  She is very healthy.  I
 understand the chance of a false positive is about 3%.  I am not very
 familar with feline leukemia.  Does anyone have any advice or suggestions.

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RE: False Positive

2005-05-06 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto
When you re-test him again, you might want to ask them to do IFA test
regardless of the result from ELISA -

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barbara Lowe
Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 2:31 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: False Positive

She might have tested postive because she had been exposed to
Smeagol(sharing litter boxes, mutual cleaning) but now has shed the
virus.
be sure to read all the info and links on the leukemia website. It can
be
very scary to face but with information you will feel more confident. I
would think the vet would wait 3 months before retesting. Which test did
the
vet give her? Was Moxie a litter mate to Smeagol?  I am so sorry you
lost
him. We all here on this list know how crappy this virus is and have
faced
losses of our furkids also. Try to take some comfort that Smeagol is now
pain free and now running and playing beyond the Rainbow bridge. I would
suggest you go thru the archives for info on supplements and vitamins
for
Moxie--I have a mixed household-only one postive now and 6 negatives.
One of
my other cats was a positive but after several years of MegaPlus vitamin
C,
vit E and feeding him a better quality diet of canned food like
Wellness,
Eagle brand holistic, Petguard NOT grocery store stuff, he tested
negative.
surprised the heck out of my vet. I would also suggest you go to the
www.holisticat.com website and scroll thru their archives for info.
Welcome
to the group--you will find very supportive people. it might just be
quiet
during this mother's day weekend but I am sure others will email you.
Barbara
- Original Message -
From: Dawn Ritzke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 3:51 PM
Subject: False Positive


 About 3 weeks ago my 10 month old kitty, Smeagol, died from feline
leukemia.
   I was unaware he even had leukemia.  The vet never checked him for
 leukemia.  At that time I had my other kitten, Moxie retested.  She
was
 tested at birth and was negative.  Three weeks ago she came back
positive.
 I recently had her retested again and this time she came back
negative.  I
 am going to have her tested again in one month.  She is very healthy.
I
 understand the chance of a false positive is about 3%.  I am not very
 familar with feline leukemia.  Does anyone have any advice or
suggestions.

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