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The diarrhea contiunes but it's now mostly affecting Yoda. The other two will have normal poos, and then sometimes soft, cow-pie poos, but they are not having the runny, watery, sometimes mucousy diarrhea Yoda is now having. I'm just baffeled. And upset for him. I went to scoop him up yesterday and he tried to dodge me (he's wiley), so instead of getting scruff or the mid-section of his body, I got only his hind quarters and I grabbed on. Well, the poor thing simulanteously let out a baby-bird/girly squeal and also passed gas at the same time (really loudly). I thought some diarrhea may have shot out accidently (it hadn't) when I grabbed him because the passing gas noise was so loud. I felt so bad- his tummy must have been bothering him. So I immediately put him in his crate in his litter box and the poor thing immediately had really gassy, totally liquidy diarrhea. I know, it's gross, I'm sorry! I felt so bad for him. He also had to get a bath yesterday morning because his feet were all pooy from a night in the crate- his litter box was a mess, he'd had two boughts of diarrhea/cow pies thru the night- I couldn't really tell if it was diarrhea because he'd spent a lot of time burying them, hence the dirty feet. He was good for his bath tho! He's getting Immodium AD and it seems to not be working at all! But he's still status quo- eating like a piggy, drinking water, running around and playing fine. I guess I will call the Vet and see what he has to say... I myself had been sick since Tuesday the 18th!!! I only took one day off work because I thought it was just allergies/change of season, etc., so I didn't go to the Dr. because I didn't want to be put on an antibiotic that would just destroy my stomach...I pushed myself too much last weekend and ended up with laryngitis. I finally got my voice back last Wed. and thought all was well. Well, Friday at work I felt intense muscle pain and my neck hurt, I felt like I would throw up-- it was horrible. I finally just went home early and admitted to myself that I had a fever! No other symptoms besides a fever and just feeling like I might die. So I spent a miserable Fri. night freezing to death on my couch. By Sat. my fever had broke, but I still felt horrible, so it was couch-time again. I think I am all recovered now but my mom is so mad at me (for not going to the Dr.) and she says that the kitties and I are all making each other sick!-- but she's crazy! -Caroline Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 07:45:49 -0700From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: Kitten update Take 2To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Caroline, You're post made me LOL! You're funny! I am hoping you figure out soon what's going on with your guys, because I'm betting it's what's wrong with Ensie. Keep us posted! :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: Caroline Kaufmann [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Friday, September 28, 2007 4:34:45 PMSubject: Kitten update Take 2 I got the results of Yoda's fecal back and it's totally negative- even the flotation. Now I don't know what to do and I pretty much told the Doctor that (what do I do!?). He doesn't seem to think it's from the antibiotic. Yoda was the first started on it at Labor Day and he was on it 10 days, so he's been off it a long time. I was also surprised that none of the kittens had diarrhea while actually on Amoxy (Monkee always got soft stools when on Clavamox). Anyway, he said it could be a virus of some kind, but it's definitely not bacterial or parasites. He asked about their exposure- which is basically nill, so he was fine with that. He said it could still be giardia because that doesn't show up in a fecal-- that they need the sample immediately because giardia is like bubbles and you can see them really clearly under a microscope if you get the sample immediately-- pretty much from butt to microscope (that's what he said- not me)-- but within a few seconds, they start to burst I guess and then you can't see them. This is how he described it. I told him the diarrhea smells HORRIBLE and he said h... He wanted to know when it started and I guessed about Monday. He said that is not too much time so he isn't worried yet. He said to try giving them all Liquid Immodium AD- 1/4 teaspoon and see if that helps. If not, we will try some other things (I guess looking for giardia). I'm going to give it this weekend I guess. I have two thoughs: #1) it's a random virus that they could have picked up when we went to Sat. cat adoption day. Although I kept all mine in a separate pen and they did not meet any of the condo cats at the store, they were in the same general area and if it's possible they could get an airborne stomach virus just by being in the same area, maybe that's it? #2)
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Caroline, This sounds so much like the problems Kitty had with food allergies and pancreas problems. I really think you need to get her checked for those items. You can do an elimination diet fairly easily. If the pancreas is causing problems you want to know it now. Take care. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Caroline Kaufmann To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 9:48 AM Subject: RE: Kitten update Take 2 The diarrhea contiunes but it's now mostly affecting Yoda. The other two will have normal poos, and then sometimes soft, cow-pie poos, but they are not having the runny, watery, sometimes mucousy diarrhea Yoda is now having. I'm just baffeled. And upset for him. I went to scoop him up yesterday and he tried to dodge me (he's wiley), so instead of getting scruff or the mid-section of his body, I got only his hind quarters and I grabbed on. Well, the poor thing simulanteously let out a baby-bird/girly squeal and also passed gas at the same time (really loudly). I thought some diarrhea may have shot out accidently (it hadn't) when I grabbed him because the passing gas noise was so loud. I felt so bad- his tummy must have been bothering him. So I immediately put him in his crate in his litter box and the poor thing immediately had really gassy, totally liquidy diarrhea. I know, it's gross, I'm sorry! I felt so bad for him. He also had to get a bath yesterday morning because his feet were all pooy from a night in the crate- his litter box was a mess, he'd had two boughts of diarrhea/cow pies thru the night- I couldn't really tell if it was diarrhea because he'd spent a lot of time burying them, hence the dirty feet. He was good for his bath tho! He's getting Immodium AD and it seems to not be working at all! But he's still status quo- eating like a piggy, drinking water, running around and playing fine. I guess I will call the Vet and see what he has to say... I myself had been sick since Tuesday the 18th!!! I only took one day off work because I thought it was just allergies/change of season, etc., so I didn't go to the Dr. because I didn't want to be put on an antibiotic that would just destroy my stomach...I pushed myself too much last weekend and ended up with laryngitis. I finally got my voice back last Wed. and thought all was well. Well, Friday at work I felt intense muscle pain and my neck hurt, I felt like I would throw up-- it was horrible. I finally just went home early and admitted to myself that I had a fever! No other symptoms besides a fever and just feeling like I might die. So I spent a miserable Fri. night freezing to death on my couch. By Sat. my fever had broke, but I still felt horrible, so it was couch-time again. I think I am all recovered now but my mom is so mad at me (for not going to the Dr.) and she says that the kitties and I are all making each other sick!-- but she's crazy! -Caroline Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 07:45:49 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Kitten update Take 2 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Caroline, You're post made me LOL! You're funny! I am hoping you figure out soon what's going on with your guys, because I'm betting it's what's wrong with Ensie. Keep us posted! :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: Caroline Kaufmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 4:34:45 PM Subject: Kitten update Take 2 I got the results of Yoda's fecal back and it's totally negative- even the flotation. Now I don't know what to do and I pretty much told the Doctor that (what do I do!?). He doesn't seem to think it's from the antibiotic. Yoda was the first started on it at Labor Day and he was on it 10 days, so he's been off it a long time. I was also surprised that none of the kittens had diarrhea while actually on Amoxy (Monkee always got soft stools when on Clavamox). Anyway, he said it could be a virus of some kind, but it's definitely not bacterial or parasites. He asked about their exposure- which is basically nill, so he was fine with that. He said it could still be giardia because that doesn't show up in a fecal-- that they need the sample immediately because giardia is like bubbles
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I talked to the Vet today and he says it could be bacterial enteritis so he had prescribed a medicine that I am picking up today to treat Yoda with. The vet says we will try that and if that doesn't clear up the diarrhea, Yoda will go in for further testing, smears, etc. So, I'm going to give it a try. Yoda is not in distress and he's still eating and playing fine-- seems to be loving life-- so as long as he feels good, I am going to stick with this game plan. It's just a little frustrating. I like to have all completely healthy kitties so I can brag! I'm just kidding...kind of. I took pictures of them this weekend, so once we get them loaded on the computer, I would like to share them. Each of the three kittens I have all have completely unique, different faces...it's beautiful and interesting to think about how they have such unique faces...which also translates into unique personalities. It's kind of scary. -Caroline From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: Kitten update Take 2Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 11:32:26 -0500 Caroline, This sounds so much like the problems Kitty had with food allergies and pancreas problems. I really think you need to get her checked for those items. You can do an elimination diet fairly easily. If the pancreas is causing problems you want to know it now. Take care. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Caroline Kaufmann To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 9:48 AM Subject: RE: Kitten update Take 2 The diarrhea contiunes but it's now mostly affecting Yoda. The other two will have normal poos, and then sometimes soft, cow-pie poos, but they are not having the runny, watery, sometimes mucousy diarrhea Yoda is now having. I'm just baffeled. And upset for him. I went to scoop him up yesterday and he tried to dodge me (he's wiley), so instead of getting scruff or the mid-section of his body, I got only his hind quarters and I grabbed on. Well, the poor thing simulanteously let out a baby-bird/girly squeal and also passed gas at the same time (really loudly). I thought some diarrhea may have shot out accidently (it hadn't) when I grabbed him because the passing gas noise was so loud. I felt so bad- his tummy must have been bothering him. So I immediately put him in his crate in his litter box and the poor thing immediately had really gassy, totally liquidy diarrhea. I know, it's gross, I'm sorry! I felt so bad for him. He also had to get a bath yesterday morning because his feet were all pooy from a night in the crate- his litter box was a mess, he'd had two boughts of diarrhea/cow pies thru the night- I couldn't really tell if it was diarrhea because he'd spent a lot of time burying them, hence the dirty feet. He was good for his bath tho! He's getting Immodium AD and it seems to not be working at all! But he's still status quo- eating like a piggy, drinking water, running around and playing fine. I guess I will call the Vet and see what he has to say...I myself had been sick since Tuesday the 18th!!! I only took one day off work because I thought it was just allergies/change of season, etc., so I didn't go to the Dr. because I didn't want to be put on an antibiotic that would just destroy my stomach...I pushed myself too much last weekend and ended up with laryngitis. I finally got my voice back last Wed. and thought all was well. Well, Friday at work I felt intense muscle pain and my neck hurt, I felt like I would throw up-- it was horrible. I finally just went home early and admitted to myself that I had a fever! No other symptoms besides a fever and just feeling like I might die. So I spent a miserable Fri. night freezing to death on my couch. By Sat. my fever had broke, but I still felt horrible, so it was couch-time again. I think I am all recovered now but my mom is so mad at me (for not going to the Dr.) and she says that the kitties and I are all making each other sick!-- but she's crazy! -Caroline Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 07:45:49 -0700From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: Kitten update Take 2To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Caroline, You're post made me LOL! You're funny! I am hoping you figure out soon what's going on with your guys, because I'm betting it's what's wrong with Ensie. Keep us posted! :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: Caroline Kaufmann [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL
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Caroline, You're post made me LOL! You're funny! I am hoping you figure out soon what's going on with your guys, because I'm betting it's what's wrong with Ensie. Keep us posted! :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: Caroline Kaufmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 4:34:45 PM Subject: Kitten update Take 2 I got the results of Yoda's fecal back and it's totally negative- even the flotation. Now I don't know what to do and I pretty much told the Doctor that (what do I do!?). He doesn't seem to think it's from the antibiotic. Yoda was the first started on it at Labor Day and he was on it 10 days, so he's been off it a long time. I was also surprised that none of the kittens had diarrhea while actually on Amoxy (Monkee always got soft stools when on Clavamox). Anyway, he said it could be a virus of some kind, but it's definitely not bacterial or parasites. He asked about their exposure- which is basically nill, so he was fine with that. He said it could still be giardia because that doesn't show up in a fecal-- that they need the sample immediately because giardia is like bubbles and you can see them really clearly under a microscope if you get the sample immediately-- pretty much from butt to microscope (that's what he said- not me)-- but within a few seconds, they start to burst I guess and then you can't see them. This is how he described it. I told him the diarrhea smells HORRIBLE and he said h... He wanted to know when it started and I guessed about Monday. He said that is not too much time so he isn't worried yet. He said to try giving them all Liquid Immodium AD- 1/4 teaspoon and see if that helps. If not, we will try some other things (I guess looking for giardia). I'm going to give it this weekend I guess. I have two thoughs: #1) it's a random virus that they could have picked up when we went to Sat. cat adoption day. Although I kept all mine in a separate pen and they did not meet any of the condo cats at the store, they were in the same general area and if it's possible they could get an airborne stomach virus just by being in the same area, maybe that's it? #2) it's giardia and the vet will need Yoda's actual butt to diagnosis it! I came home early from work and Yoda had yet another diarrhea in his box. He was eating dry crunchies when I came in. I immediately gave everyone their Immodium. No sooner had I done that and Yoda had two more separate piles of even runnier, smellier diarrhea (and not to mention, he trashed his crate afterward-- he does it on purpose)! Urgh. He gets away with it because he's cuter than cute and the lil b*stard knows it! I know I need to give the Immodium more of a chance...but still?! If it continues this weekend, I will just drop Yoda off on Monday and say, here's his butt...have at it; I'm sure he'll give you a 'sample' in all of like 2 minutes! One of grey ones that are crated together threw up dry food this morning-- just a little bit of it and into their water bowl. It happened while I was at work so I don't know who did it. No one has ever thrown up since I've had them. I don't know if it means anything tho-- it really looked like the cat just ate too fast without chewing because the crunchies were all pratically whole! A kittens...they are so much trouble! I guess I rested on my laurels with them after we beat the URIs so I probably deserve this! Happily tho, I now got my coop cups in the mail so no more spilling our waters and trashing our crates and barfing in our waters! I'm so excited! I get as excited about my online pet-care deliveries as I used to get about my clothing purchases that I couldn't afford! I guess that means I've matured? Or maybe my priorities are just more admirable now! I also got my Just Born in the mail and I'm starting them on that tonight! -Caroline Discover the new Windows Vista Learn more! Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/webhosting
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Hi Caroline,I have never heard of them needing a sample straight from the cats
butt to check for Giardia.I have left samples in the fridge at the shelter for
it to be checked and it showed up in my Genevieves when I first brought her
home.And thank goodness none of the boys caught it!!
Sherry
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got the results of Yoda's fecal back and it's totally negative- even the
flotation. Now I don't know what to do and I pretty much told the Doctor that
(what do I do!?). He doesn't seem to think it's from the antibiotic. Yoda
was the first started on it at Labor Day and he was on it 10 days, so he's been
off it a long time. I was also surprised that none of the kittens had diarrhea
while actually on Amoxy (Monkee always got soft stools when on Clavamox).
Anyway, he said it could be a virus of some kind, but it's definitely not
bacterial or parasites. He asked about their exposure- which is basically
nill, so he was fine with that. He said it could still be giardia because that
doesn't show up in a fecal-- that they need the sample immediately because
giardia is like bubbles and you can see them
really clearly under a microscope if you get the sample immediately-- pretty
much from butt to microscope (that's what he said- not me)-- but within a few
seconds, they start to burst I guess and then you can't see them. This is how
he described it. I told him the diarrhea smells HORRIBLE and he said
h... He wanted to know when it started and I guessed about Monday. He
said that is not too much time so he isn't worried yet. He said to try giving
them all Liquid Immodium AD- 1/4 teaspoon and see if that helps. If not, we
will try some other things (I guess looking for giardia).
I'm going to give it this weekend I guess. I have two thoughs: #1) it's a
random virus that they could have picked up when we went to Sat. cat adoption
day. Although I kept all mine in a separate pen and they did not meet any of
the condo cats at the store, they were in the same general area and if it's
possible they could get an airborne stomach virus just by being in the same
area, maybe that's it? #2) it's giardia and the vet will need Yoda's actual
butt to diagnosis it!
I came home early from work and Yoda had yet another diarrhea in his box. He
was eating dry crunchies when I came in. I immediately gave everyone their
Immodium. No sooner had I done that and Yoda had two more separate piles of
even runnier, smellier diarrhea (and not to mention, he trashed his crate
afterward-- he does it on purpose)! Urgh. He gets away with it because he's
cuter than cute and the lil b*stard knows it! I know I need to give the
Immodium more of a chance...but still?!
If it continues this weekend, I will just drop Yoda off on Monday and say,
here's his butt...have at it; I'm sure he'll give you a 'sample' in all of
like 2 minutes!
One of grey ones that are crated together threw up dry food this morning-- just
a little bit of it and into their water bowl. It happened while I was at work
so I don't know who did it. No one has ever thrown up since I've had them. I
don't know if it means anything tho-- it really looked like the cat just ate
too fast without chewing because the crunchies were all pratically whole!
A kittens...they are so much trouble! I guess I rested on my laurels with
them after we beat the URIs so I probably deserve this! Happily tho, I now got
my coop cups in the mail so no more spilling our waters and trashing our
crates and barfing in our waters! I'm so excited! I get as excited about my
online pet-care deliveries as I used to get about my clothing purchases that I
couldn't afford! I guess that means I've matured? Or maybe my priorities are
just more admirable now! I also got my Just Born in the mail and I'm
starting them on that tonight!
-Caroline
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poor baby. could it be a food allergy? ibd? can you feed him an unusual protein to see if that helps? I had an ibd cat for 6 years. Finally, home prepared food did the trick. www.catnutrition.org has a great recipe. My best. So frustrating for ou and scarey for him. He must not feel very good...sweet baby. prayers for you both. Laurie - Original Message - From: Caroline Kaufmann To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 3:34 PM Subject: Kitten update Take 2 I got the results of Yoda's fecal back and it's totally negative- even the flotation. Now I don't know what to do and I pretty much told the Doctor that (what do I do!?). He doesn't seem to think it's from the antibiotic. Yoda was the first started on it at Labor Day and he was on it 10 days, so he's been off it a long time. I was also surprised that none of the kittens had diarrhea while actually on Amoxy (Monkee always got soft stools when on Clavamox). Anyway, he said it could be a virus of some kind, but it's definitely not bacterial or parasites. He asked about their exposure- which is basically nill, so he was fine with that. He said it could still be giardia because that doesn't show up in a fecal-- that they need the sample immediately because giardia is like bubbles and you can see them really clearly under a microscope if you get the sample immediately-- pretty much from butt to microscope (that's what he said- not me)-- but within a few seconds, they start to burst I guess and then you can't see them. This is how he described it. I told him the diarrhea smells HORRIBLE and he said h... He wanted to know when it started and I guessed about Monday. He said that is not too much time so he isn't worried yet. He said to try giving them all Liquid Immodium AD- 1/4 teaspoon and see if that helps. If not, we will try some other things (I guess looking for giardia). I'm going to give it this weekend I guess. I have two thoughs: #1) it's a random virus that they could have picked up when we went to Sat. cat adoption day. Although I kept all mine in a separate pen and they did not meet any of the condo cats at the store, they were in the same general area and if it's possible they could get an airborne stomach virus just by being in the same area, maybe that's it? #2) it's giardia and the vet will need Yoda's actual butt to diagnosis it! I came home early from work and Yoda had yet another diarrhea in his box. He was eating dry crunchies when I came in. I immediately gave everyone their Immodium. No sooner had I done that and Yoda had two more separate piles of even runnier, smellier diarrhea (and not to mention, he trashed his crate afterward-- he does it on purpose)! Urgh. He gets away with it because he's cuter than cute and the lil b*stard knows it! I know I need to give the Immodium more of a chance...but still?! If it continues this weekend, I will just drop Yoda off on Monday and say, here's his butt...have at it; I'm sure he'll give you a 'sample' in all of like 2 minutes! One of grey ones that are crated together threw up dry food this morning-- just a little bit of it and into their water bowl. It happened while I was at work so I don't know who did it. No one has ever thrown up since I've had them. I don't know if it means anything tho-- it really looked like the cat just ate too fast without chewing because the crunchies were all pratically whole! A kittens...they are so much trouble! I guess I rested on my laurels with them after we beat the URIs so I probably deserve this! Happily tho, I now got my coop cups in the mail so no more spilling our waters and trashing our crates and barfing in our waters! I'm so excited! I get as excited about my online pet-care deliveries as I used to get about my clothing purchases that I couldn't afford! I guess that means I've matured? Or maybe my priorities are just more admirable now! I also got my Just Born in the mail and I'm starting them on that tonight! -Caroline -- Discover the new Windows Vista Learn more!
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The food allergy is a really good thought. The Royal Princess Kitty Katt developed one at about 12 years of age + developed a problem processing fatty foods. Really big problems odorwise. Try an elimination diet? If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: laurieskatz To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 5:38 PM Subject: Re: Kitten update Take 2 poor baby. could it be a food allergy? ibd? can you feed him an unusual protein to see if that helps? I had an ibd cat for 6 years. Finally, home prepared food did the trick. www.catnutrition.org has a great recipe. My best. So frustrating for ou and scarey for him. He must not feel very good...sweet baby. prayers for you both. Laurie - Original Message - From: Caroline Kaufmann To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 3:34 PM Subject: Kitten update Take 2 I got the results of Yoda's fecal back and it's totally negative- even the flotation. Now I don't know what to do and I pretty much told the Doctor that (what do I do!?). He doesn't seem to think it's from the antibiotic. Yoda was the first started on it at Labor Day and he was on it 10 days, so he's been off it a long time. I was also surprised that none of the kittens had diarrhea while actually on Amoxy (Monkee always got soft stools when on Clavamox). Anyway, he said it could be a virus of some kind, but it's definitely not bacterial or parasites. He asked about their exposure- which is basically nill, so he was fine with that. He said it could still be giardia because that doesn't show up in a fecal-- that they need the sample immediately because giardia is like bubbles and you can see them really clearly under a microscope if you get the sample immediately-- pretty much from butt to microscope (that's what he said- not me)-- but within a few seconds, they start to burst I guess and then you can't see them. This is how he described it. I told him the diarrhea smells HORRIBLE and he said h... He wanted to know when it started and I guessed about Monday. He said that is not too much time so he isn't worried yet. He said to try giving them all Liquid Immodium AD- 1/4 teaspoon and see if that helps. If not, we will try some other things (I guess looking for giardia). I'm going to give it this weekend I guess. I have two thoughs: #1) it's a random virus that they could have picked up when we went to Sat. cat adoption day. Although I kept all mine in a separate pen and they did not meet any of the condo cats at the store, they were in the same general area and if it's possible they could get an airborne stomach virus just by being in the same area, maybe that's it? #2) it's giardia and the vet will need Yoda's actual butt to diagnosis it! I came home early from work and Yoda had yet another diarrhea in his box. He was eating dry crunchies when I came in. I immediately gave everyone their Immodium. No sooner had I done that and Yoda had two more separate piles of even runnier, smellier diarrhea (and not to mention, he trashed his crate afterward-- he does it on purpose)! Urgh. He gets away with it because he's cuter than cute and the lil b*stard knows it! I know I need to give the Immodium more of a chance...but still?! If it continues this weekend, I will just drop Yoda off on Monday and say, here's his butt...have at it; I'm sure he'll give you a 'sample' in all of like 2 minutes! One of grey ones that are crated together threw up dry food this morning-- just a little bit of it and into their water bowl. It happened while I was at work so I don't know who did it. No one has ever thrown up since I've had them. I don't know if it means anything tho-- it really looked like the cat just ate too fast without chewing because the crunchies were all pratically whole! A kittens...they are so much trouble! I guess I rested on my laurels with them after we beat the URIs so I probably deserve this! Happily tho, I now got my coop cups in the mail so no more spilling our waters and trashing our crates and barfing in our waters! I'm so excited! I get as excited about my online pet-care deliveries as I used to get about my clothing purchases that I couldn't afford! I guess that means I've matured? Or maybe my priorities are just more admirable now! I also got my Just Born in the mail and I'm starting them on that tonight! -Caroline
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I have no idea? I guess I just have to wait and see and keep working the vet. I can always take him to Monkee's Holistic Vet next week if we don't get anywhere with the regular vet. Second opinion. I'll tell him you sent his regards, but I don't think he will care! The funniest thing is that the little monster feels fine! He's super Yoda! He's eating like a pig still, drinking water (out of his coup cup already!) and sleeping normally. He plays like a maniac...attacking the other kittens like it's his job. He wrestles with Izzee and continues to scream like a little baby girl when they are going at it (his usual routine)! He just has diarrhea after he eatsbut he doesn't seem to care! He acts like nothing is out of order. He cracks me up. And I know what he is like when he is ill because that is the condition he first came to me in...struggling to breathe, wanting to sleep all the time, but having restless sleep, never playing at all...just wanting to lay on my chest and be a sick-baby and wanting Izzee to cuddle him (which she wanted nothing to do with!). Those days are long gone and I miss them, but know it's better to have a maniac cat on my hands then a sicky-poo! Hopefully, because of this history with him, I will be able to tell if/when he's starting to feel really crappy. -Caroline From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: Kitten update Take 2 Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 16:38:13 -0600 poor baby. could it be a food allergy? ibd? can you feed him an unusual protein to see if that helps? I had an ibd cat for 6 years. Finally, home prepared food did the trick. www.catnutrition.org has a great recipe. My best. So frustrating for ou and scarey for him. He must not feel very good...sweet baby. prayers for you both. Laurie - Original Message - From: Caroline Kaufmann To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 3:34 PM Subject: Kitten update Take 2 I got the results of Yoda's fecal back and it's totally negative- even the flotation. Now I don't know what to do and I pretty much told the Doctor that (what do I do!?). He doesn't seem to think it's from the antibiotic. Yoda was the first started on it at Labor Day and he was on it 10 days, so he's been off it a long time. I was also surprised that none of the kittens had diarrhea while actually on Amoxy (Monkee always got soft stools when on Clavamox). Anyway, he said it could be a virus of some kind, but it's definitely not bacterial or parasites. He asked about their exposure- which is basically nill, so he was fine with that. He said it could still be giardia because that doesn't show up in a fecal-- that they need the sample immediately because giardia is like bubbles and you can see them really clearly under a microscope if you get the sample immediately-- pretty much from butt to microscope (that's what he said- not me)-- but within a few seconds, they start to burst I guess and then you can't see them. This is how he described it. I told him the diarrhea smells HORRIBLE and he said h... He wanted to know when it started and I guessed about Monday. He said that is not too much time so he isn't worried yet. He said to try giving them all Liquid Immodium AD- 1/4 teaspoon and see if that helps. If not, we will try some other things (I guess looking for giardia). I'm going to give it this weekend I guess. I have two thoughs: #1) it's a random virus that they could have picked up when we went to Sat. cat adoption day. Although I kept all mine in a separate pen and they did not meet any of the condo cats at the store, they were in the same general area and if it's possible they could get an airborne stomach virus just by being in the same area, maybe that's it? #2) it's giardia and the vet will need Yoda's actual butt to diagnosis it! I came home early from work and Yoda had yet another diarrhea in his box. He was eating dry crunchies when I came in. I immediately gave everyone their Immodium. No sooner had I done that and Yoda had two more separate piles of even runnier, smellier diarrhea (and not to mention, he trashed his crate afterward-- he does it on purpose)! Urgh. He gets away with it because he's cuter than cute and the lil b*stard knows it! I know I need to give the Immodium more of a chance...but still?! If it continues this weekend, I will just drop Yoda off on Monday and say, here's his butt...have at it; I'm sure he'll give you a 'sample' in all of like 2 minutes! One of grey ones that are crated together threw up dry food this morning-- just a little bit of it and into their water bowl. It happened while I was at work so I don't know who did it. No one has ever thrown up since I've had them. I don't know if it means anything tho-- it really looked like the cat just ate too fast without chewing because the crunchies were all pratically whole! A kittens...they are so much trouble! I guess I
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I have no idea? I guess I just have to wait and see and keep working the vet. I can always take him to Monkee's Holistic Vet next week if we don't get anywhere with the regular vet. Second opinion. I'll tell him you sent his regards, but I don't think he will care! The funniest thing is that the little monster feels fine! He's super Yoda! He's eating like a pig still, drinking water (out of his coup cup already!) and sleeping normally. He plays like a maniac...attacking the other kittens like it's his job. He wrestles with Izzee and continues to scream like a little baby girl when they are going at it (his usual routine)! He just has diarrhea after he eatsbut he doesn't seem to care! He acts like nothing is out of order. He cracks me up. And I know what he is like when he is ill because that is the condition he first came to me in...struggling to breathe, wanting to sleep all the time, but having restless sleep, never playing at all...just wanting to lay on my chest and be a sick-baby and wanting Izzee to cuddle him (which she wanted nothing to do with!). Those days are long gone and I miss them, but know it's better to have a maniac cat on my hands then a sicky-poo! Hopefully, because of this history with him, I will be able to tell if/when he's starting to feel really crappy. -Caroline From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: Kitten update Take 2 Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 16:38:13 -0600 poor baby. could it be a food allergy? ibd? can you feed him an unusual protein to see if that helps? I had an ibd cat for 6 years. Finally, home prepared food did the trick. www.catnutrition.org has a great recipe. My best. So frustrating for ou and scarey for him. He must not feel very good...sweet baby. prayers for you both. Laurie - Original Message - From: Caroline Kaufmann To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 3:34 PM Subject: Kitten update Take 2 I got the results of Yoda's fecal back and it's totally negative- even the flotation. Now I don't know what to do and I pretty much told the Doctor that (what do I do!?). He doesn't seem to think it's from the antibiotic. Yoda was the first started on it at Labor Day and he was on it 10 days, so he's been off it a long time. I was also surprised that none of the kittens had diarrhea while actually on Amoxy (Monkee always got soft stools when on Clavamox). Anyway, he said it could be a virus of some kind, but it's definitely not bacterial or parasites. He asked about their exposure- which is basically nill, so he was fine with that. He said it could still be giardia because that doesn't show up in a fecal-- that they need the sample immediately because giardia is like bubbles and you can see them really clearly under a microscope if you get the sample immediately-- pretty much from butt to microscope (that's what he said- not me)-- but within a few seconds, they start to burst I guess and then you can't see them. This is how he described it. I told him the diarrhea smells HORRIBLE and he said h... He wanted to know when it started and I guessed about Monday. He said that is not too much time so he isn't worried yet. He said to try giving them all Liquid Immodium AD- 1/4 teaspoon and see if that helps. If not, we will try some other things (I guess looking for giardia). I'm going to give it this weekend I guess. I have two thoughs: #1) it's a random virus that they could have picked up when we went to Sat. cat adoption day. Although I kept all mine in a separate pen and they did not meet any of the condo cats at the store, they were in the same general area and if it's possible they could get an airborne stomach virus just by being in the same area, maybe that's it? #2) it's giardia and the vet will need Yoda's actual butt to diagnosis it! I came home early from work and Yoda had yet another diarrhea in his box. He was eating dry crunchies when I came in. I immediately gave everyone their Immodium. No sooner had I done that and Yoda had two more separate piles of even runnier, smellier diarrhea (and not to mention, he trashed his crate afterward-- he does it on purpose)! Urgh. He gets away with it because he's cuter than cute and the lil b*stard knows it! I know I need to give the Immodium more of a chance...but still?! If it continues this weekend, I will just drop Yoda off on Monday and say, here's his butt...have at it; I'm sure he'll give you a 'sample' in all of like 2 minutes! One of grey ones that are crated together threw up dry food this morning-- just a little bit of it and into their water bowl. It happened while I was at work so I don't know who did it. No one has ever thrown up since I've had them. I don't know if it means anything tho-- it really looked like the cat just ate too fast without chewing because the crunchies were all pratically whole! A kittens...they are so much trouble! I guess I
