Re: New to the list

2007-12-21 Thread wendy
Hi Emily,

I hope you get this post soon.  No, pts is not your only option!  That is the 
good news.  More and more vets are learning that cats with FeLV can live for 
years.  There is even a cat the the Best Friends Animals Sanctuary who is FeLV+ 
and 22 years old!  I petted him myself last Feb.  So my first thought to you is 
you should find a vet that is willing to work to save Moses's life if this one 
isn't.  Secondly, eating is extremely important for cats because they develop 
feline hepatic lipidosis, a condition of the liver, very quickly, and it's 
treatable, but deadly if not treated quickly.  Did your vet tell you this?  If 
he's not eating, get a syringe and start assist-feeding him some baby food (Del 
Monte or Beecher Nut chicken is a good one); there is info. on the internet on 
how to assist feed if you need to.  Or get some Evo, which you can only get 
from the vet; it's very smooth when mixed with water and high calorie content.  
You have to do this.  It's
 probably the single most important thing you will do for him at this point.  
Get 1-2 syringes of food in him as often as you can, every 1-2 hours if 
possible.  There's a good chance it will jump start his appetite; we often see 
here that it does.  And give him water as well in the syringe, but be careful 
to have him tilted up so that it slides down his throat right and doesn't choke 
him.  If you have him at a 180 degree angle, that's too flat.  Is Moses also 
anemic?  Did he have a blood count done (RBC/PCV/HCT)?  If so, what was it?  
I'm assuming that's what the pred and doxy is for.  Make sure to keep him on 
the doxy for at least three weeks because that is what's used to treat 
hemobartanella, a blood parasite that is more common in cats and can cause the 
anemia, which is also deadly if not treated.  Hemobart is very hard to detect 
on a slide because it 'disappears'.  So vets often treat for this anyway, just 
in case.  Please get back to us with as
 much info. as possible on his condition and test results so we can best help 
you Emily.  I will check back here around 4ish central time to see if there's 
any other info you need and then later again tonight.  Prayers going out for 
Moses to make a quick turn around.   

:) 
Wendy
Dallas, TX
 
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Hi there 


My name is Emily and I have three cats, Moses (Felv +) Jeremiah and Samson 
(status yet unknown).


I just found out that Moses is + and he's quite sick. the doctor put him on 
prednesone and doxycline... 


He's not eating and he's quite thin.


The dr wants to put him to sleep. Is this really my only option? Also - if i 
bring him home to be with his brothers... will he infect them? Should i have 
them tested? 


I'm so sad. 


Any help would be greatly appreciated... 


THank you thank you thank you... 






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To Emily Re: New to the list

2007-12-21 Thread wendy
Correction: I meant A/D instead of Evo.  Thank you Laurie!  I saw your post and 
said OOPS!

Everyone here has given GREAT info. thus far!  The archives, as Caroline 
pointed out, are a wonderful source of info. and will save you time in 
searching.

:)
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Hi there 


My name is Emily and I have three cats, Moses (Felv +) Jeremiah and Samson 
(status yet unknown).


I just found out that Moses is + and he's quite sick. the doctor put him on 
prednesone and doxycline... 


He's not eating and he's quite thin.


The dr wants to put him to sleep. Is this really my only option? Also - if i 
bring him home to be with his brothers... will he infect them? Should i have 
them tested? 


I'm so sad. 


Any help would be greatly appreciated... 


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RE: New to the list

2007-12-20 Thread Caroline Kaufmann

Get Nutrical- either from your vet, or a lot of pet stores have it- just ask 
them for it.  It's a high calorie supplement for cats.  You need to be giving 
this to him.  If he likes it enough, he may just lick it off your fingers.  
Most cats do like the taste of it.  But to get the maximum amount into him, mix 
it into wet food really good.  Also, start feeding him kitten wet food- 
Wellness brand kitten is really really good.  Kitten food is richer, so it 
may stimulate his appetite more and he'll be very happy getting it!  Most 
important, kitten food is high calorie, whereas adult cat food is not.  He 
needs all the calories he can get right now.  
 
For a cat that is struggling weight-wise, the recommended amount of Nutrical is 
a tablespoon a day.  If you can get just 1 tablespoon in him by mixing into wet 
food and/or by him licking it directly off your fingers, that alone (even 
without him eating food) with stave off fatty liver disease- which can be 
fatal and is the most dangerous thing you face with a cat not 
eating/undernourished.
 
I have a non-felv undernourished 6 mth old kitten (looks 3-4 mths though) that 
I am nursing back to health- he gets a whole tablespoon of Nutrical added to 
1/2 a small can of Wellness kitten food at night.  He's improved markedly- the 
nutrical helps a lot.   
 
Others can address your other questions.  Best thing to do is scan the archives 
for subject lines and read those threads.  All you questions have been 
addressed in previous posts and you will find these helpful.
 
Caroline 


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Hi Emily,
 
Your only option is NOT to put him to sleep.  
 
As far as the thinness goes, you can learn to syringe feed him.  Sometimes they 
pull through episodes of illness and sometimes not.
 
I would have the brothers tested - but if they're going to be infected they 
likely already have been, since they have been together so long.  Some people 
on this list mix + and -, and some don't.  After testing, if they are negative, 
I'd definitely get them vaccinated against FELV, though.  Have they ever been 
vaccinated against it before? 
There are lots of people here who know more about FELV than I do.  I just 
wanted you to know someone's out here listening, someone cares, and you aren't 
alone.
 
This is a great list, welcome.
On Dec 20, 2007 10:17 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi there 

My name is Emily and I have three cats, Moses (Felv +) Jeremiah and Samson 
(status yet unknown).

I just found out that Moses is + and he's quite sick. the doctor put him on 
prednesone and doxycline... 

He's not eating and he's quite thin.

The dr wants to put him to sleep. Is this really my only option? Also - if i 
bring him home to be with his brothers... will he infect them? Should i have 
them tested? 

I'm so sad. 

Any help would be greatly appreciated... 

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RE: New to the list

2007-12-20 Thread Christiane Biagi
Folks on this list much more knowledgable than me will help.  But, how old are 
they?  Have they always been together?  What does the vet say is wrong with 
Moses?  FELV itself is not what is making him sick—what he likely has is any 
one a number  of conditions that FELV cats are more prone to.  As for eating, 
get anything you can into him—baby food (without onion!), tuna water from  can; 
cold cuts; treats; ANYTHING you can.  Try and make it a bit liquidy so he gets 
fluids as well.   

 

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Hi there 

 

My name is Emily and I have three cats, Moses (Felv +) Jeremiah and Samson 
(status yet unknown).

 

I just found out that Moses is + and he's quite sick. the doctor put him on 
prednesone and doxycline... 

 

He's not eating and he's quite thin.

 

The dr wants to put him to sleep. Is this really my only option? Also - if i 
bring him home to be with his brothers... will he infect them? Should i have 
them tested? 

 

I'm so sad. 

 

Any help would be greatly appreciated... 

 

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RE: New to the list

2007-12-20 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
Hi, Emily --
 
I'm sorry Moses is so sick.  As you can see, you're already getting lots
of good ideas on how to treat him.  One important thing is, is your vet
is willing to work with you to help Moses get better?  I hope the fact
that he's given you drugs for him is a good sign in that regard.  The
question is, did the vet suggest putting him to sleep based on his
actual condition (i.e. does Moses seem to have lymphoma, severe anemia,
etc.) or just on the widely held but erroneous opinion that FeLV is an
automatic death sentence?  You should ask your vet if he's willing to
help you on this -- if he's not, maybe you should go vet-shopping.
Unfortunately, once kitties are in crisis, it can be hard to save them,
but if it's a case of them being undernourished or generally sickly
rather than being in the grip of some actual ugly disease, often good
care and good food can bring them out of it.  
 
You've come to a good place for help.  Sending vibes that Moses gains
weight and feels better!
 
Diane R.



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My name is Emily and I have three cats, Moses (Felv +) Jeremiah and
Samson (status yet unknown).

I just found out that Moses is + and he's quite sick. the doctor put him
on prednesone and doxycline... 

He's not eating and he's quite thin.

The dr wants to put him to sleep. Is this really my only option? Also -
if i bring him home to be with his brothers... will he infect them?
Should i have them tested? 

I'm so sad. 

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Re: New to the list~ feline assisted feeding info

2007-12-20 Thread laurieskatz
Join the yahoo group  feline assisted feeding. GREAT INFO there re importance 
of eating and helping them eat. 
http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/Feline-Assisted-Feeding/
Important to get nutrition in him immediately.
Start with AD which is easily syringed and high calories.
I would keep him separate from your other kitties for now...
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  Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 10:27 AM
  Subject: Re: New to the list


  Hi Emily,

  Your only option is NOT to put him to sleep.  

  As far as the thinness goes, you can learn to syringe feed him.  Sometimes 
they pull through episodes of illness and sometimes not.

  I would have the brothers tested - but if they're going to be infected they 
likely already have been, since they have been together so long.  Some people 
on this list mix + and -, and some don't.  After testing, if they are negative, 
I'd definitely get them vaccinated against FELV, though.  Have they ever been 
vaccinated against it before? 

  There are lots of people here who know more about FELV than I do.  I just 
wanted you to know someone's out here listening, someone cares, and you aren't 
alone.

  This is a great list, welcome.


  On Dec 20, 2007 10:17 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi there 


My name is Emily and I have three cats, Moses (Felv +) Jeremiah and Samson 
(status yet unknown).


I just found out that Moses is + and he's quite sick. the doctor put him on 
prednesone and doxycline... 


He's not eating and he's quite thin.


The dr wants to put him to sleep. Is this really my only option? Also - if 
i bring him home to be with his brothers... will he infect them? Should i have 
them tested? 


I'm so sad. 


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Re: New to the list

2007-12-20 Thread laurieskatz
Me again. Getting to an internal medicine specialist saved Isabella's life. 
Wonder if you have one nearby?
Diane asks good questions and makes a good observation re the meds.
Laurie
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  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 11:22 AM
  Subject: RE: New to the list


  Hi, Emily --

  I'm sorry Moses is so sick.  As you can see, you're already getting lots of 
good ideas on how to treat him.  One important thing is, is your vet is willing 
to work with you to help Moses get better?  I hope the fact that he's given you 
drugs for him is a good sign in that regard.  The question is, did the vet 
suggest putting him to sleep based on his actual condition (i.e. does Moses 
seem to have lymphoma, severe anemia, etc.) or just on the widely held but 
erroneous opinion that FeLV is an automatic death sentence?  You should ask 
your vet if he's willing to help you on this -- if he's not, maybe you should 
go vet-shopping.  Unfortunately, once kitties are in crisis, it can be hard to 
save them, but if it's a case of them being undernourished or generally sickly 
rather than being in the grip of some actual ugly disease, often good care and 
good food can bring them out of it.  

  You've come to a good place for help.  Sending vibes that Moses gains weight 
and feels better!

  Diane R.



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  Hi there 


  My name is Emily and I have three cats, Moses (Felv +) Jeremiah and Samson 
(status yet unknown).


  I just found out that Moses is + and he's quite sick. the doctor put him on 
prednesone and doxycline... 


  He's not eating and he's quite thin.


  The dr wants to put him to sleep. Is this really my only option? Also - if i 
bring him home to be with his brothers... will he infect them? Should i have 
them tested? 


  I'm so sad. 


  Any help would be greatly appreciated... 


  THank you thank you thank you... 





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RE: New to the list

2007-12-20 Thread Chris Behnke
One of my babies, Monty, was diagnosed at 9 months old.  He was incredibly ill 
and the vet didn’t think he would make it and wanted me to put him to sleep as 
well.  I wasn’t ready to give up, so I went to another vet.  3 years 3 months 
later, Monty is still with me and have never been sick since his initial 
diagnosis.   He lives in the same house as his brother (Felv negative), his 
mother (negative), his grandmother (negative), 2 aunts (both negative), 2 
uncles (both negative) and 4 other unrelated cats who are all negative.  We did 
lose one of his aunts and his dad who were both positive.  They all share the 
same space and have for over 4 years.  

 

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My name is Emily and I have three cats, Moses (Felv +) Jeremiah and Samson 
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I just found out that Moses is + and he's quite sick. the doctor put him on 
prednesone and doxycline... 

 

He's not eating and he's quite thin.

 

The dr wants to put him to sleep. Is this really my only option? Also - if i 
bring him home to be with his brothers... will he infect them? Should i have 
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I'm so sad. 

 

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Re: New to the List, Cats, and FeLV!!

2006-07-31 Thread Marissa Johnson
THANK YOU SO MUCH!!! You've all been so awesome and helpful!! As far as having the instinct about diet and vitamins...I just figured that since that's what I'm supposed to do to boost my immune system when I'm sick, I wondered if the same could work for him. I am abig believer in holistic treatmentsfor myself (balanced with medicines, etc.), so hold the same philosophies for Slink. As far as the food, we've made some good progress on that front. I think my problem was that I was trying to introduce too many new things at once (canned food, new dry food, vitamins, etc.). I backed off a bit and have been mixing the Evo dry with the purina (increasing the Evo amounts) and he seems to be having no trouble eating it. Pretty soon we should be able to do just the Evo. THEN, I'll try to start adding canned and then mixing in vitamins, etc. But it looks like there's hope! And the
 good news is that the pet food store owner gave me samples of the Evo so that if he really won't eat it, I can take back the bag I bought. This weekend I did some of my own research on the different brands of natural foods and it does appear that Evo is just about the best thing I could give him. So hopefully he'll start cooperating! :)I would love to see the info you have from the Natural Cat book. Thanks for sharing!!The only question I have right now (and I think I know the answer, but want to check) is...if he ends up testing positive when I have him retested, can I adopt another positive cat? It sounds like several of you have multiple positive kitties, but I wanted to make sure it would be okay to have 2 together. I just wondered if they would share secondary infections or if one could make the other worse or anything. But if it won't hurt either of them, I've
 decided that if he tests positive, I will adopt another positive cat. I want to wait 'till I'm sure of his test results, though. I may still adopt another cat (negative) even if he tests negative. :)I'll send more questions (and the names of the vitamins and stuff I bought for opinions) as I think of them.Thanks again everyone for all your support and help!!! MarissaKerry MacKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Hi Marissa  And a big welcome, although I'm sorry for the reason you had to find us.  First, thanks for opening your heart to this sweet
 little soul. And, given that you say you've been largely more of a "dog person" I'm hugely impressed by the manner in which you've proceeded so far, eg, your instinct about your vet's diet comments is right on the nail.   Your main goal is to keep Slinky's immune system boosted as much as you can, so Number One essential--which you're already doing (if only Slinky would co-operate!)--is go to a good pet food store as you've doneand buy top-quality cat food ie cat food without additives and preservatives and fillers, like Innova, Wellness, or Eagle, to namea few. (Showering him with all that love and affection you're already giving him will sure help keep his immune system boosted too!)  If he absolutely won't eat any of the top brands after you've tried a few---and this is just my suggestion--maybe you cd try mixing it to begin with with a "junk" pet food that he will eat and then gradually eliminate
 the "junk"? Just an idea, and maybe others on the list will have a better idea. Another idea--again just my own suggestion--would be to try finger feeding him the good stuff, and see if that changes his attitude.  Tomorrow I'll send you info gleaned from the FeLV section of Anitra Frazier's The New Natural Cat book that I used for my FeLV cats--it's on my work computer. I used her recipe for Vita-Mineral mixfor my FeLV kitts from the time I got them till the time I lost them and I'm convinced that even tho their lives were cut far too short, it helped them enormously.   You will get lots more advicethe list can be slow on weekends. Please fire away with any Qs--you can never ask too many. This is thekindest,most supportive, most knowledgeablegroup ever and was my lifeline/godsend when I discovered all my brood had FeLV.   Will be in touch again tomorrow
 Marissa. You are already doing a great job in using your own instinct to guide you--Slinky is a lucky little kit to have found you.  take care, Kerry- Original Message - From: Marissa Johnson   To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org   Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 11:21 AM  Subject: New to the List,
 Cats, and FeLV!!Hi all. So I'm new to all of this! I recently took in a stray that was living under my boyfriend's house (his mom gave birth there and we found homes for all the kittens...one being mine. Mom still lives there and he feeds her).My family had cats when I was in high school but they were indoor/outdoor (we lived in the country) and I never bonded with them too much. They were mostly my step-mom's pets. I've generally been more of a dog person.But now i have this WONDERFUL, adorable little baby (about 14-15 weeks old) 

Re: To Marissa (MJ) Re: New to the List, Cats, and FeLV!!

2006-07-31 Thread Marissa Johnson
Hi Wendy. Thanks!! I would LOVE to see your sick cat manual!!! Thanks!Yes, Evo does seem to be just about the best thing out there. The pet food store owner said that with FeLV, raw diet could compromise his immune system, so I decided to go with the Evo. As I said in my last post, he does seem to be getting better about eating at least the dry. Will start adding canned soon. This weekend was interesting. My boyfriend lives 5.5 hours away from me (so when I got Slinky he had to ride up in the car with him, his sister, and his dog!). I go down there every other weekend to see him. I debated about what to do with Slink this weekend while I was gone, and finally decided to take him. I knew it would be stressful, but decided I wanted to teach him to adjust to different situations now while he's young and healthy. Then if he ends up getting
 sick, going to the vet or hospital or having someone care for him or something hopefully won't be so stressful.I have to say that he did pretty well! He doesn't really like his carrier and usually spends quite a bit of time meowing before he settles down. But by the time we got back last night, he had gotten pretty used to it. He even used the litter box in the car when I stopped for gas! He did fine at my boyfriend's house (kept him in the bedroom, mostly). My boyfriend and his sister each have sheepdogs. Slink and Sam (boyfriend's dog) do fine together - they mostly ignore each other and Sam is very mellow. But Milo (his sister's dog) is used to playing with cats and kept chasing Slinky around. But he found his hiding places and some new toys and seemed to do okay. So all in all I'm glad I took him. I didn't want to
 leave him for 2 days (would've missed him) and I think he did fine with adjusting, etc. He seemed to have tons of energy when we got back last night and was bounding around and playing with his new toys. So that's good.I think I'll always be a dog person, but now I'll be a cat person too! lol It is great having him around...and you can't beat having him curl up next to you in bed and purr you to sleep! lol Re: the name Slinky...I debated a long time about a name! But then when I first got him, I saw him going down the stairs in my apartment and he looked just like a slinky! And since he's gray, it seemed like a good fit. Now, of course, he's grown quite a bit and has no trouble going down the stairs. When we got home last night, he ran all the way down and then back up again...as if to say, "Look what I can do mom!" But mom isn't so happy about that because
 the only thing at the bottom of the stairs is the door, so now I have to watch to make sure he doesn't go outside. Hopefully he won't go down there too much, though, since there really isn't anything to interest him there.Anyway...this is getting very long! Thanks again for everyone's wonderful advice!! I'll have to try the chicken broth on him. So far the only kind of treats I've been able to get him to eat are chicken, so he'd probably love some cooked chicken and/or broth! I hope you are all doing well and I'll keep your kitties in my prayers!Marissawendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Hi Marissa,My name is Wendy. I've been on this list since lastOctober and probably will never leave. The peoplehere
 got me through one of the hardest times in mylife when my baby Cricket was sick with anemia fromthe FeLV, and died after three weeks of trying to gethim to turn around. Everyone here is so knowledgeableand helpful, and I stick around now to try to help newpeople just like you.Your vet is right. Many cats throw the virus off, andsome just carry it around. And even if he does testpositive, there are absolutely things you can do toprolong his life.The two most important things to keep in mind withFeLV positives is a stress free environment and immuneboosting including food and supplements. A lot ofpeople use the Evo. I think what Maggie and Kerrysaid about mixing the old food with the new and thenslowly decreasing the old might work for your baby. It will take time. Mine are on the Evo, wet and dry,and it is great stuff. Probably the best on themarket, in my opinion. Some do the raw diet.
 Whatever you end up feeding him, make sure it has nograins in it. As far as supplements go, there areseveral routes you can go. Vitamin C is supposed tobe a great immune booster. Some people even claimthat it can turn positives to negatives. L-lysine(WITHOUT) propylene glycol is also good for immuneboosting, especially if he has feline herpes, whicheither can't be or isn't easy to be tested for (can'tremember). I say he might have it because sneezingand URI's are typical symptoms. Many cats haveherpes, so it's no big deal. The L-lysine helps agreat deal with keeping that in remission. It's kindof like cold sores for us. The lysine is greatbecause kitty won't be able to taste it. I just mixit in with the wet food. I leave out dry for mine,and feed wet in the morn and eve. I have a kitty 

Re: To Marissa (MJ) Re: New to the List, Cats, and FeLV!!

2006-07-31 Thread wendy


--- Marissa Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Hey Marissa,

I'm glad that Slinky is doing so well!  I agree with
you that it's a good idea to get him used to the car
now.  When my husband and I retire in 30 years or so,
we're going to train a kitten or two to ride in a
Winnebago so we can see the country!  lol.  I sent the
manual to your email addy.  Let me know if you don't
get it.

:)
Wendy

 Hi Wendy.  Thanks!!  I would LOVE to see your sick
 cat manual!!!  Thanks!

   Yes, Evo does seem to be just about the best thing
 out there.  The pet food store owner said that with
 FeLV, raw diet could compromise his immune system,
 so I decided to go with the Evo.  As I said in my
 last post, he does seem to be getting better about
 eating at least the dry.  Will start adding canned
 soon.  

   This weekend was interesting.  My boyfriend lives
 5.5 hours away from me (so when I got Slinky he had
 to ride up in the car with him, his sister, and his
 dog!).  I go down there every other weekend to see
 him.  I debated about what to do with Slink this
 weekend while I was gone, and finally decided to
 take him.  I knew it would be stressful, but decided
 I wanted to teach him to adjust to different
 situations now while he's young and healthy.  Then
 if he ends up getting sick, going to the vet or
 hospital or having someone care for him or something
 hopefully won't be so stressful.

   I have to say that he did pretty well!  He doesn't
 really like his carrier and usually spends quite a
 bit of time meowing before he settles down.  But by
 the time we got back last night, he had gotten
 pretty used to it.  He even used the litter box in
 the car when I stopped for gas!  

   He did fine at my boyfriend's house (kept him in
 the bedroom, mostly).  My boyfriend and his sister
 each have sheepdogs.  Slink and Sam (boyfriend's
 dog) do fine together - they mostly ignore each
 other and Sam is very mellow.  But Milo (his
 sister's dog) is used to playing with cats and kept
 chasing Slinky around.  But he found his hiding
 places and some new toys and seemed to do okay.  

   So all in all I'm glad I took him.  I didn't want
 to leave him for 2 days (would've missed him) and I
 think he did fine with adjusting, etc.  He seemed to
 have tons of energy when we got back last night and
 was bounding around and playing with his new toys. 
 So that's good.

   I think I'll always be a dog person, but now I'll
 be a cat person too! lol  It is great having him
 around...and you can't beat having him curl up next
 to you in bed and purr you to sleep! lol  Re: the
 name Slinky...I debated a long time about a name! 
 But then when I first got him, I saw him going down
 the stairs in my apartment and he looked just like a
 slinky!  And since he's gray, it seemed like a good
 fit.  

   Now, of course, he's grown quite a bit and has no
 trouble going down the stairs.  When we got home
 last night, he ran all the way down and then back up
 again...as if to say, Look what I can do mom!  But
 mom isn't so happy about that because the only thing
 at the bottom of the stairs is the door, so now I
 have to watch to make sure he doesn't go outside. 
 Hopefully he won't go down there too much, though,
 since there really isn't anything to interest him
 there.

   Anyway...this is getting very long!  Thanks again
 for everyone's wonderful advice!!  I'll have to try
 the chicken broth on him.  So far the only kind of
 treats I've been able to get him to eat are chicken,
 so he'd probably love some cooked chicken and/or
 broth!  

   I hope you are all doing well and I'll keep your
 kitties in my prayers!

   Marissa
 
 wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Hi Marissa,
 
 My name is Wendy. I've been on this list since last
 October and probably will never leave. The people
 here got me through one of the hardest times in my
 life when my baby Cricket was sick with anemia from
 the FeLV, and died after three weeks of trying to
 get
 him to turn around. Everyone here is so
 knowledgeable
 and helpful, and I stick around now to try to help
 new
 people just like you.
 
 Your vet is right. Many cats throw the virus off,
 and
 some just carry it around. And even if he does test
 positive, there are absolutely things you can do to
 prolong his life.
 
 The two most important things to keep in mind with
 FeLV positives is a stress free environment and
 immune
 boosting including food and supplements. A lot of
 people use the Evo. I think what Maggie and Kerry
 said about mixing the old food with the new and then
 slowly decreasing the old might work for your baby. 
 It will take time. Mine are on the Evo, wet and dry,
 and it is great stuff. Probably the best on the
 market, in my opinion. Some do the raw diet. 
 Whatever you end up feeding him, make sure it has no
 grains in it. As far as supplements go, there are
 several routes you can go. Vitamin C is supposed to
 be a great immune booster. Some people even 

RE: New to the List, Cats, and FeLV!!

2006-07-31 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
Title: Message





Hiagain Marissa 
WhenI discovered in December 2003 that 5 
of thecolony of 6 kitties I took in 
wereFeLVpositive,I had to go on a crash course, so to 
speak, in dealing with FeLV cats. My most 
precious references became this wonderful 
group and Anitra Frazier's The Natural Cat Book. 
As I 
said yesterday, 4 of my positives succumbed to the disease. But until that time, 
they enjoyed quality of life--a far too short life, to be sure. The remaining 
positive, Mickey,threw off the FeLV. The 6th cat, Momcat,never 
became positive. (I had them both re-tested 2 months ago, in May.)Momcat 
continued tolive with the others, sharing everything--I felt it would have 
been cruelto separate her, and pointless too, since she had already been 
fully exposed to the FeLV--and is walking testimony to the fact that FeLV 
is simply not as contagious as many, including vets, think.

Here's a copy of what I've sent out in 
the past with the salient points:

~~Give only 
filtered water.
~~Buy the 
best pet food you can afford.Until I joined this group, I didn't even knowthere werehigher 
quality brands than those found in the 
chains--Petco, Petsmart etc.--i.e. brands 
without by-products, additives or preservatives,like Wellness, Innova, Petguard. These are found in the independent pet 
stores and stores like Wholefoods. 

~~Add these supplements morning and evening tothe wet food, to boost the kitties' immune system: a 500mg 
L-Lysin pill (grind first), easily available from 
pharmacies/healthfood stores, 1/4 tsp 
feline enzymes, 1 teaspoon of 'Vita-Mineral 
Mix'(seedetailsbelow). 
Also, gradually, as I was able to 
obtain them (not difficult as it turned out, everything is available in health 
food stores or Internet) I added most of the remainder of the supplements 
Frazier recommends: 
1 tablet bioplasma, 
crushed; extra 1/4 teaspoon of bonemeal (ie over and above the bonemeal in the 
Vita Min Mix below); 10 mg Co-Enzyme Q10; 1/8 teaspoon 
olive oil; 1/2 teaspoon cod liver oil; and 1 teaspoon chopped alfalfa 
sprouts 
And I gave them interferon. Got it 
thru Walgreen's (eventually) on my vet's prescription, and he made it up for 
me.Some members eg Nina and 
Michelle,have worked with their vet to get feline 
interferon from England. I know they will be more than happy to give 
you the details.
Here's 
the Vita-Mineral Mix recipe (very easy to make up in bulk -- 
store in refrigerator)
1 1/2 cups yeast 
powder (brewer's yeast, nutritional yeast or tarula). (I use nutritional 
yeast.) 

1/4 cup kelp powder or 1/4 cup mixed 
trace mineral powder (I found kelp first, so I use that) 
1 cup lecithin 
granules 

2 cups wheat bran 
2 cups bonemeal, calcium lactate or calcium gluconate. (I have 
only been able to find bonemeal--the Solgar brand). 
Mix together and store in covered 
container. MUST be kept in refrigerator as some of these ingredients perish. Add 
1 teaspoonful of Vita-Mineral Mix to each cat's meal (ie 2 teaspoonfuls per cat 
per day). 
Also recommended by Anitra Frazier:
"Give a total of four doses of 250 units 
Vit C each day (use 1/16 teaspoon ascorbic acid crystals or 
sodium ascorbate powder). (I found the powder easily.) Vitamin C is not stored 
in the body well so is most effective given in several doses throughout the day. 
Always mix Vitamin C with a little High-Calcium Chicken Broth (I can send you 
the recipe if you like) or a teaspoon of a food the cat loves. Never give Vit C 
without a little food. Once a week give each cat 400 units Vitamin 
E (alpha tocopherol, not mixed tocopherols) and the contents of 
aVitamin 
AD capsule."
You will get tons more advice 
and help from others on the list!
Good luck,and hugs to you and Slinky. Bless you for loving and 
caring andlooking out for 
him.Kerry


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Re: New to the List, Cats, and FeLV!!

2006-07-31 Thread TenHouseCats
the only thing i've heard about mixing positives with possibly positives is that, if a cat is in the process of throwing the virus off, exposure to other positive cats (who might have a different strain of the virus) MAY make it more difficult for them to do so. other than that, definite positives live quite happily with other positives with no appreciable problems--we had close to 200 at one point at the sanctuary, and we have one wonderful family that adopts only positives from us, whenever one of theirs go to the bridge. actually, they come down from up north to get one new positive, and sometimes leave with as many as 5! hee hee boy, do we need more families like that! 

On 7/31/06, MacKenzie, Kerry N. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:





Hiagain Marissa 
WhenI discovered in December 2003 that 5 of thecolony of 6 kitties I took in wereFeLVpositive,I had to go on a crash course, so to speak, in dealing with FeLV cats
. My most precious references became this wonderful group and Anitra Frazier's The Natural Cat Book. 
As I said yesterday, 4 of my positives succumbed to the disease. But until that time, they enjoyed quality of life--a far too short life, to be sure. The remaining positive, Mickey,threw off the FeLV. The 6th cat, Momcat,never became positive. (I had them both re-tested 2 months ago, in May.)Momcat continued tolive with the others, sharing everything--I felt it would have been cruelto separate her, and pointless too, since she had already been fully exposed to the FeLV--and is walking testimony to the fact that FeLV is simply not as contagious as many, including vets, think.


Here's a copy of what I've sent out in the past with the salient points:

~~Give only filtered water.
~~Buy the best pet food you can afford.Until I joined this group, I didn't even knowthere werehigher quality brands
 than those found in the chains--Petco, Petsmart etc.--i.e. brands without by-products, additives or preservatives,like Wellness, Innova, Petguard. These are found in the independent pet stores
 and stores like Wholefoods. 
~~Add these supplements morning and evening tothe wet food, to boost the kitties' 
immune system: a 500mg L-Lysin pill (grind first), easily available from pharmacies/healthfood stores, 1/4 tsp feline enzymes, 1 teaspoon of 'Vita-Mineral Mix'
(seedetailsbelow). 
Also, gradually, as I was able to obtain them (not difficult as it turned out, everything is available in health food stores or Internet) I added most of the remainder of the supplements Frazier recommends: 

1 tablet bioplasma, crushed; extra 1/4 teaspoon of bonemeal (ie over and above the bonemeal in the Vita Min Mix below)
; 10 mg Co-Enzyme Q10; 1/8 teaspoon olive oil; 1/2 teaspoon cod liver oil; and 1 teaspoon chopped alfalfa sprouts 
And I gave them interferon. Got it thru Walgreen's (eventually) on my vet's prescription, and he made it up for me.Some members eg Nina and Michelle,have worked with their vet to get 
feline interferon from England. I know they will be more than happy to give you the details.
Here's the Vita-Mineral Mix recipe (very easy to make up in bulk -- store in refrigerator)
1 1/2 cups yeast powder (brewer's yeast, nutritional yeast or tarula). (I use nutritional yeast.) 

1/4 cup kelp powder or 1/4 cup mixed trace mineral powder (I found kelp first, so I use that)
1 cup lecithin granules
2 cups wheat bran
2 cups bonemeal,calcium lactate or calcium gluconate. (I have only been able to find bonemeal--the Solgar brand). 

Mix together and store in covered container. MUST be kept in refrigerator as some of these ingredients perish. Add 1 teaspoonful of Vita-Mineral Mix to each cat's meal (ie 2 teaspoonfuls per cat per day). 

Also recommended by Anitra Frazier:
Give a total of four doses of 250 units Vit C each day (use 1/16 teaspoon ascorbic acid crystals or sodium ascorbate powder). (I found the powder easily.) Vitamin C is not stored in the body well so is most effective given in several doses throughout the day. Always mix Vitamin C with a little High-Calcium Chicken Broth (I can send you the recipe if you like) or a teaspoon of a food the cat loves. Never give Vit C without a little food. Once a week give each cat 400 units 
Vitamin E (alpha tocopherol, not mixed tocopherols) and the contents of aVitamin AD capsule.
You will get tons more advice and help from others on the list!
Good luck,and hugs to you and Slinky. Bless you for loving and caring andlooking out for him.Kerry


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To Marissa (MJ) Re: New to the List, Cats, and FeLV!!

2006-07-30 Thread wendy
Hi Marissa,

My name is Wendy.  I've been on this list since last
October and probably will never leave.  The people
here got me through one of the hardest times in my
life when my baby Cricket was sick with anemia from
the FeLV, and died after three weeks of trying to get
him to turn around.  Everyone here is so knowledgeable
and helpful, and I stick around now to try to help new
people just like you.

Your vet is right.  Many cats throw the virus off, and
some just carry it around.  And even if he does test
positive, there are absolutely things you can do to
prolong his life.

The two most important things to keep in mind with
FeLV positives is a stress free environment and immune
boosting including food and supplements.  A lot of
people use the Evo.  I think what Maggie and Kerry
said about mixing the old food with the new and then
slowly decreasing the old might work for your baby. 
It will take time.  Mine are on the Evo, wet and dry,
and it is great stuff.  Probably the best on the
market, in my opinion.  Some do the raw diet. 
Whatever you end up feeding him, make sure it has no
grains in it.  As far as supplements go, there are
several routes you can go.  Vitamin C is supposed to
be a great immune booster.  Some people even claim
that it can turn positives to negatives.  L-lysine
(WITHOUT) propylene glycol is also good for immune
boosting, especially if he has feline herpes, which
either can't be or isn't easy to be tested for (can't
remember).  I say he might have it because sneezing
and URI's are typical symptoms.  Many cats have
herpes, so it's no big deal.  The L-lysine helps a
great deal with keeping that in remission.  It's kind
of like cold sores for us.  The lysine is great
because kitty won't be able to taste it.  I just mix
it in with the wet food.  I leave out dry for mine,
and feed wet in the morn and eve.  I have a kitty with
hyperthyroidism that gets chicken broth twice a day,
which some kitties love, and cooked chicken at night. 
The chicken broth is just the byproduct of cooking the
chicken in water.  I always feed it to my sick
kitties; not all eat it though.

I have also compiled a sick kitty manual that has a
lot of good info. in it.  It's good even if your kitty
is not sick.  I took months of posts and info. from
this site along with personal research and combined it
to make the manual.  It's in glossary form and
cross-referenced in a Word document.  Let me know if
you'd like it and I'll send it to you directly as the
list won't allow attachments.

I always say people who are dog people have never been
loved by a cat.  We'll see what you have to say in a
few months about that.  LOL.  I love the name Slinky,
btw.

If you have ANY questions, just ask.  We're here to
help.

:)
Wendy
Dallas, Tx

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Re: To Marissa (MJ) Re: New to the List, Cats, and FeLV!!

2006-07-30 Thread kandbz_ mom
Wendy,I'm not the person you were talking to, but would you mind sending me this info for Angel? Thanks,  Karenwendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Hi Marissa,My name is Wendy. I've been on this list since lastOctober and probably will never leave. The peoplehere got me through one of the hardest times in mylife when my baby Cricket was sick with anemia fromthe FeLV, and died after three weeks of trying to gethim to turn around. Everyone here is so knowledgeableand helpful, and I stick around now to try to help newpeople just like you.Your vet is right. Many cats throw the virus off, andsome just carry it around. And even if he does testpositive, there are absolutely things you can do toprolong his
 life.The two most important things to keep in mind withFeLV positives is a stress free environment and immuneboosting including food and supplements. A lot ofpeople use the Evo. I think what Maggie and Kerrysaid about mixing the old food with the new and thenslowly decreasing the old might work for your baby. It will take time. Mine are on the Evo, wet and dry,and it is great stuff. Probably the best on themarket, in my opinion. Some do the raw diet. Whatever you end up feeding him, make sure it has nograins in it. As far as supplements go, there areseveral routes you can go. Vitamin C is supposed tobe a great immune booster. Some people even claimthat it can turn positives to negatives. L-lysine(WITHOUT) propylene glycol is also good for immuneboosting, especially if he has feline herpes, whicheither can't be or isn't easy to be tested for (can'tremember). I say he might have it because
 sneezingand URI's are typical symptoms. Many cats haveherpes, so it's no big deal. The L-lysine helps agreat deal with keeping that in remission. It's kindof like cold sores for us. The lysine is greatbecause kitty won't be able to taste it. I just mixit in with the wet food. I leave out dry for mine,and feed wet in the morn and eve. I have a kitty withhyperthyroidism that gets chicken broth twice a day,which some kitties love, and cooked chicken at night. The chicken broth is just the byproduct of cooking thechicken in water. I always feed it to my sickkitties; not all eat it though.I have also compiled a sick kitty manual that has alot of good info. in it. It's good even if your kittyis not sick. I took months of posts and info. fromthis site along with personal research and combined itto make the manual. It's in glossary form andcross-referenced in a Word document. Let me know ifyou'd like
 it and I'll send it to you directly as thelist won't allow attachments.I always say people who are dog people have never beenloved by a cat. We'll see what you have to say in afew months about that. LOL. I love the name Slinky,btw.If you have ANY questions, just ask. We're here tohelp.:)WendyDallas, Tx__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com  
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Re: New to the List, Cats, and FeLV!!

2006-07-28 Thread kandbz_ mom
Welcome! You have definitely found the right place to ask questions! I am new myself, I started posting about a week and a half ago. Unlike your vet who seemed optimistic, my vet wanted me to have Angel euthanized. I was devastated, until I found this email group. KarenMarissa Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Hi all. So I'm new to all of this! I recently took in a stray that was living under my boyfriend's house (his mom gave birth there and we found homes for all the kittens...one being mine. Mom still lives there and he feeds her).My family had cats when I was in high school but they were indoor/outdoor (we lived in the country) and I never bonded with them too much. They were mostly my step-mom's pets. I've generally
 been more of a dog person.But now i have this WONDERFUL, adorable little baby (about 14-15 weeks old) named Slinky. He's a gray and white DSH and the sweetest cat ever. And when I took him to the vet (last weekend...I just got him recently), he tested positive for FeLV. :(The vet said that he had about a 25% chance of "growing out of it" (or fighting it off or being a fals positive or whatever it is that causes cats to test positive as kittens and negative as adults), and about a 25% chance of having it his whole life and not being affected by it. The only "symptom" he's had is that he had an upper resperatory infection about 3 weeks ago. My boyfriend's sister took him to the vet (it was before I got him) and they gave him amoxicillan and eye drops and he seemed to recover pretty quickly. He still sneezes a fair amount, but that's it.So...I
 brought him home and I'm praying for the best. He was kind of lethargic and quiet for a couple days after the vet visit, but I assume that's probably from the trauma and the vaccinations (other than FeLV). He's been pretty much back to his normal self for a few days now. But his mom still has a TON of questions!!! My first thought was to wonder whether vitamin supplements or diet or something might help to boost his immune system and either help him fight off the virus or keep secondary infections at bay. The vet said as long as his diet is sufficient, he doesn't need them, but I'm not sure the vet is the best (I'm also new to the area, so trying to find a vet is a challenge!).I was giving him dry Purina kitten chow (it was all I knew to get) and the vet said that was as good as anything. I don't really believe him though. So I went toa natural pet food store and
 the owner gave me some canned food and some dry...all natural, no grains (innova evo). But he won't eat it. He won't touch the dry food at all! And the canned he'll only eat if it's the only option...and he won't really even eat it if I mix it with the purina. Ugh!I also bought a vitamin powder and something to help his digestive track (which he isn't too crazy about). But I'm a little leary of using those. Some articles I found online said that vitamin C would help him (esp. since he's only eating dry food right now), but others said too much could cause crystals in his urine, etc. Some articles/websites said to only give him canned, others say raw, others say a mixture. Everything contradicts itself What am I supposed to do???I love this little guy so much and I know he's totally dependent on me to make the best decisions for his care. But I
 don't know what those are!!! I'm doing my best to educate myself, but since so much of the information is contradictory, it's hard. Is there anything I can do to help prolong his life? They're going to retest him in about 6 months the vet said. Other than the upper resperatory infection, he's had ear mites (gone now) and he now has tape worm which they'll treat him for in 2 weeks when I go for his next round of vaccinations. But beyond that, he's healthy, energetic, playful, and seems to have a healthy appetite.Anyway...positive thoughts and prayers would be appreciated! But I could REALLY use some advice/perspectives/information to help me make the right decisions!!!Thanks in advance! I'll be praying for all your special kitties.Slinky's Mom (MJ)p.s. Sorry this is so
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Re: New to the List, Cats, and FeLV!!

2006-07-28 Thread Marissa Johnson
Thanks! Yes, it did seem that at least the vet was fairly positive. Told me to try not to worry about it too much. He said about 25% of the time, they "grow out of it", about 25% of the time, they have it all their lives with no affects, about 25% of the time they have it for several years before they start having symptoms, and about 25% of the time they start having symptoms fairly quickly. So I'm hoping for the first (or even second) 25%!!!Thanks for the welcome. I've been so confused and frustrated!!! I hope I'll get some good advice on the list.Thanks again and good luck with Angel!! Sending prayers and positive vibes your way.MJkandbz_ mom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Welcome! You
 have definitely found the right place to ask questions! I am new myself, I started posting about a week and a half ago. Unlike your vet who seemed optimistic, my vet wanted me to have Angel euthanized. I was devastated, until I found this email group. KarenMarissa Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Hi all. So I'm new to all of this! I recently took in a stray that was living under my boyfriend's house (his mom gave birth there and we found homes for all the kittens...one being mine. Mom still lives there and he feeds her).My family had cats when I was in high school but they were indoor/outdoor (we lived in the country) and I never bonded with them too much. They were mostly my step-mom's pets. I've generally been more of a dog
 person.But now i have this WONDERFUL, adorable little baby (about 14-15 weeks old) named Slinky. He's a gray and white DSH and the sweetest cat ever. And when I took him to the vet (last weekend...I just got him recently), he tested positive for FeLV. :(The vet said that he had about a 25% chance of "growing out of it" (or fighting it off or being a fals positive or whatever it is that causes cats to test positive as kittens and negative as adults), and about a 25% chance of having it his whole life and not being affected by it. The only "symptom" he's had is that he had an upper resperatory infection about 3 weeks ago. My boyfriend's sister took him to the vet (it was before I got him) and they gave him amoxicillan and eye drops and he seemed to recover pretty quickly. He still sneezes a fair amount, but that's it.So...I brought him home and
 I'm praying for the best. He was kind of lethargic and quiet for a couple days after the vet visit, but I assume that's probably from the trauma and the vaccinations (other than FeLV). He's been pretty much back to his normal self for a few days now. But his mom still has a TON of questions!!! My first thought was to wonder whether vitamin supplements or diet or something might help to boost his immune system and either help him fight off the virus or keep secondary infections at bay. The vet said as long as his diet is sufficient, he doesn't need them, but I'm not sure the vet is the best (I'm also new to the area, so trying to find a vet is a challenge!).I was giving him dry Purina kitten chow (it was all I knew to get) and the vet said that was as good as anything. I don't really believe him though. So I went toa natural pet food store and the owner gave me
 some canned food and some dry...all natural, no grains (innova evo). But he won't eat it. He won't touch the dry food at all! And the canned he'll only eat if it's the only option...and he won't really even eat it if I mix it with the purina. Ugh!I also bought a vitamin powder and something to help his digestive track (which he isn't too crazy about). But I'm a little leary of using those. Some articles I found online said that vitamin C would help him (esp. since he's only eating dry food right now), but others said too much could cause crystals in his urine, etc. Some articles/websites said to only give him canned, others say raw, others say a mixture. Everything contradicts itself What am I supposed to do???I love this little guy so much and I know he's totally dependent on me to make the best decisions for his care. But I don't know what those
 are!!! I'm doing my best to educate myself, but since so much of the information is contradictory, it's hard. Is there anything I can do to help prolong his life? They're going to retest him in about 6 months the vet said. Other than the upper resperatory infection, he's had ear mites (gone now) and he now has tape worm which they'll treat him for in 2 weeks when I go for his next round of vaccinations. But beyond that, he's healthy, energetic, playful, and seems to have a healthy appetite.Anyway...positive thoughts and prayers would be appreciated! But I could REALLY use some advice/perspectives/information to help me make the right decisions!!!Thanks in advance! I'll be praying for all your special kitties.Slinky's Mom (MJ)p.s. Sorry this is so long 
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Re: New to the List, Cats, and FeLV!!

2006-07-28 Thread Kelley Saveika
Hi Marissa,

I'm really glad you found this list. Everyone here is great.

I joined when I had a kitten test positive, and she did test negative later. I just stayed because everyone is so very nice here.

Others will chime in with more advice, but I wanted to say welcome.-- Vist the Austin Siamese Rescue store and save a kitty life!http://www.cafepress.com/austinsiamese
 


Re: New to the List, Cats, and FeLV!!

2006-07-28 Thread Marissa Johnson
Aw! Thanks!! I was so glad to find the list! My boyfriend's sister used to be a vet tech, and she's been a huge help. But it's hard to find anyone who's really well versed in FeLV and/or nutrition, medicine, etc!!! Thanks for the welcome! Glad your kitten tested negative!MJKelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Hi Marissa,I'm really glad you found this list. Everyone here is great.I joined when I had a kitten test positive, and she did test negative later. I just stayed because everyone is so very nice here.Others will chime in with more advice, but I wanted to say welcome.-- Vist the Austin Siamese
 Rescue store and save a kitty life!http://www.cafepress.com/austinsiamese  
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Re: New to the List, Cats, and FeLV!!

2006-07-28 Thread kandbz_ mom
Many of the people here will be able to answer your questions. This isa great board. After the vet walked up to me and told me that Angel tested positive, he said I may want to think about euthanizing her. I said, "Can't we wait and give her the second test?" He said "there probably isn't much point because when a kitten tests positive the results are not likely to change with the second testI consider her not only a carrier, but a spreader!"So, I am looking for a new vet...one that will feel comfortable treating her. Good luck to you and I'm sending prayers your way, also!Thanks,KarenMarissa Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Thanks! Yes, it did seem
 that at least the vet was fairly positive. Told me to try not to worry about it too much. He said about 25% of the time, they "grow out of it", about 25% of the time, they have it all their lives with no affects, about 25% of the time they have it for several years before they start having symptoms, and about 25% of the time they start having symptoms fairly quickly. So I'm hoping for the first (or even second) 25%!!!Thanks for the welcome. I've been so confused and frustrated!!! I hope I'll get some good advice on the list.Thanks again and good luck with Angel!! Sending prayers and positive vibes your way.MJkandbz_ mom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Welcome! You have definitely found the right
 place to ask questions! I am new myself, I started posting about a week and a half ago. Unlike your vet who seemed optimistic, my vet wanted me to have Angel euthanized. I was devastated, until I found this email group. KarenMarissa Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Hi all. So I'm new to all of this! I recently took in a stray that was living under my boyfriend's house (his mom gave birth there and we found homes for all the kittens...one being mine. Mom still lives there and he feeds her).My family had cats when I was in high school but they were indoor/outdoor (we lived in the country) and I never bonded with them too much. They were mostly my step-mom's pets. I've generally been more of a dog person.   
 But now i have this WONDERFUL, adorable little baby (about 14-15 weeks old) named Slinky. He's a gray and white DSH and the sweetest cat ever. And when I took him to the vet (last weekend...I just got him recently), he tested positive for FeLV. :(The vet said that he had about a 25% chance of "growing out of it" (or fighting it off or being a fals positive or whatever it is that causes cats to test positive as kittens and negative as adults), and about a 25% chance of having it his whole life and not being affected by it. The only "symptom" he's had is that he had an upper resperatory infection about 3 weeks ago. My boyfriend's sister took him to the vet (it was before I got him) and they gave him amoxicillan and eye drops and he seemed to recover pretty quickly. He still sneezes a fair amount, but that's it.So...I brought him home and I'm praying for the best. He
 was kind of lethargic and quiet for a couple days after the vet visit, but I assume that's probably from the trauma and the vaccinations (other than FeLV). He's been pretty much back to his normal self for a few days now. But his mom still has a TON of questions!!! My first thought was to wonder whether vitamin supplements or diet or something might help to boost his immune system and either help him fight off the virus or keep secondary infections at bay. The vet said as long as his diet is sufficient, he doesn't need them, but I'm not sure the vet is the best (I'm also new to the area, so trying to find a vet is a challenge!).I was giving him dry Purina kitten chow (it was all I knew to get) and the vet said that was as good as anything. I don't really believe him though. So I went toa natural pet food store and the owner gave me some canned food and some dry...all
 natural, no grains (innova evo). But he won't eat it. He won't touch the dry food at all! And the canned he'll only eat if it's the only option...and he won't really even eat it if I mix it with the purina. Ugh!I also bought a vitamin powder and something to help his digestive track (which he isn't too crazy about). But I'm a little leary of using those. Some articles I found online said that vitamin C would help him (esp. since he's only eating dry food right now), but others said too much could cause crystals in his urine, etc. Some articles/websites said to only give him canned, others say raw, others say a mixture. Everything contradicts itself What am I supposed to do???I love this little guy so much and I know he's totally dependent on me to make the best decisions for his care. But I don't know what those are!!! I'm doing my best to
 educate myself, but since so much of the information is contradictory, it's hard. Is there anything I can do to help prolong his life? They're going to retest him in about 6 months the vet said. Other than the upper resperatory 

Re: New to the List, Cats, and FeLV!!

2006-07-28 Thread TatorBunz


Hello Marissa,
 Welcome to the group! 
You will find valuable information here and advice as well.
I'm sorry you had to find us but glad your here. 
I have been on the list since 2001 I think. 
I don't have any positive kitties right now but that can change at any given time. I continue to stay on because this is the best group of caring people you will find on the internet.
Some of us have met each other. Someday we plan on celebrating the cure for Felv together eating "Cheesecake" even though I don't like it but will eat it out of happiness and those that have passed on to the bridge.
It sounds like you have a caring Vet and didn't suggest euthanization which I'm glad to hear.
My Vets will not euthanized healthy Felv kitties either.
So anyway welcome look forward to hearing more about you and your furbaby!

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Re: New to the List, Cats, and FeLV!!

2006-07-28 Thread TenHouseCats
good time to remind everyone to post their vet's names/contact info for newbies needing to find medical care that goes beyond, euthanize!.

www.adopt.bemikitties.com

and everyone, add yourself to our frappr map, too!: http://www.frappr.com/felvtalk/

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Re: New to the List, Cats, and FeLV!!

2006-07-28 Thread Belinda

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Re: New to the List, Cats, and FeLV!!

2006-07-28 Thread elizamaggie

Welcome! I have two 8 month old kittens who are positive. I free feed them on Innova dry (different from evo) and for wet food they eat Wellness, when they were younger I fed them Nutra Kitten. If he won't eat a new food try mixing a little of the new food in with the old and then slowly start decreasing the amount of the old until it's just the new. Maggie



Re: New to the List, Cats, and FeLV!!

2006-07-28 Thread kandbz_ mom
I know it's a long shot, but if anyone knows ofa good, felv friendly vet in Arizona, please let me know! I'm gonna start calling them out of the phone book!! TenHouseCats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:good time to remind everyone to post their vet's names/contact info for newbies needing to find medical care that goes beyond, "euthanize!".www.adopt.bemikitties.comand everyone, add yourself to our frappr map, too!: http://www.frappr.com/felvtalk/(i'm gonna make someone a great secretary someday)MC  --
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Re: New to the List, Cats, and FeLV!!

2006-07-28 Thread TenHouseCats
http://www.aafponline.org/find_results.php?name=city=Anystate=AZcountry=Anyzipcode=Submit=Submit


that's from the American Assn of Feline Practitioners, and while there's no guarantee they're gonna be FeLV-friendly, there's probably a better chance than working with non-cat-specialists!

On 7/28/06, kandbz_ mom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I know it's a long shot, but if anyone knows ofa good, felv friendly vet in Arizona, please let me know! I'm gonna start calling them out of the phone book!! 
TenHouseCats [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote: 

good time to remind everyone to post their vet's names/contact info for newbies needing to find medical care that goes beyond, euthanize!.

www.adopt.bemikitties.com

and everyone, add yourself to our frappr map, too!: http://www.frappr.com/felvtalk/

(i'm gonna make someone a great secretary someday)

MC
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Re: New to the List, Cats, and FeLV!!

2006-07-28 Thread kandbz_ mom
Thank you for the link!!! There is one on the list that is not too far from me!! I am going to call them and go from there! Thanks again!KarenTenHouseCats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:http://www.aafponline.org/find_results.php?name=city=Anystate=AZcountry=Anyzipcode=Submit=Submit that's from the American Assn of Feline Practitioners, and while there's no guarantee they're gonna be FeLV-friendly, there's probably a better chance than working with non-cat-specialists!On 7/28/06, kandbz_ mom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know it's a long shot, but if anyone knows ofa good, felv friendly vet in Arizona, please let me know! I'm gonna start calling them out of the phone book!!   TenHouseCats [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote: good time to remind everyone to post their vet's names/contact info for newbies needing to find medical care that goes beyond, "euthanize!".www.adopt.bemikitties.comand everyone, add yourself to our frappr map, too!: http://www.frappr.com/felvtalk/(i'm gonna make someone a great secretary someday)MC  -- MaryChristineAIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCatsMSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ: 289856892 Do you Yahoo!?Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta. -- MaryChristineAIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCatsMSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ: 289856892 
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Re: New to the list - hello.

2006-05-16 Thread catatonya
Elizabeth,I think if your other cats are vaccinated they are either fine, or possibly already positive. Being with an felv cat at this point won't make a difference if they've been vaccinated. Lots of times people test as kittens and get a negative result and vaccinate. Well, the cat was positive all along. It just didn't show because the kitten had been too recently exposed.Good luck. It sounds like you're doing everything you can. And I would do exactly the same as you've done. I've been on the list around 10 years now tootonya[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  I'm sorry this is so long
 - but it's my first post but I feel I need to give some background information in the hope that some of you with more experience may have recommendations. First and foremost - thank you for being here...and to you who are going through the pain of having a catfamily member suffer with this disease or who have lost someone close - my heart is with you.Monday I noticed that a member of my cat family had a distinctly visible nictating membrane on both eyes - nearly half way closed on one side. The next morning, I took her to my vet's office. On a gut feeling, I asked them to test her for FeVL. Although she had been vaccinated a little over a year ago, she tested positive. The vet and the vet tech gently prodded me to make a 'quality of life' decision that day. She had lost about 14% of her body weight and didn't have enough of an immune system to run a fever.(She
 was initiallya feral cat who adopted me two years ago and blessedme with 12 kittens. My vet saidthat was a record)Iam notready to say goodbye - she will let me know when it is time. Right now she's not feeling that great (anemia) but sheseems to have a decentquality of life. She ran up the steps to greet me the next day with tail straight up in the air. I don't want to selfishly keep her going just for me if she is truly suffering but myheart says it isn't time.I asked if there was anything that would make her more comfortable. They gaveher ammoxi dropsand 'Pet Tinic' to build her blood. I told them toexpect me to have a lot of questions and they were very understanding. Itook offwork the rest of the day...came home and did my research. That's when I
 found the Felineleukemia.org website. Thanks totheinformation provided, I found out about Acemannan - a drug my veterinarian had never heard about. I tracked down the manufacturer and distributors and sent my vet a lot of information about it and asked if this would be a reasonable course of treatment and if he would assist me. My vet was also able to find information about this drug and he got it here in 2 days. We began treatment yesterday.Since my vet is not familiar with this drug - he told me that he really didn't know what to expect in terms of how she would feel after the shot so I've been watching her closely. It may be a coincidence but since she got the shot - she's been eating more than I've seen her eat in a while. For days I've been trying to get her to eat a teaspoon of canned foodseveral times a day without muchsuccess and she wouldn't
 touch her dry food. Yesterday after her first treatment, she ate dry food and also about half a can of canned food. I'm trying not to have false hope but I couldn't help but be encouraged.All the kids hereeat 'Chicken Soup for the Cat Lover's Soul' cat food. I have a feeling that nutrition is going to play a huge role inhelping her to copewith thisand so I am currently looking for diet and supplementation information too.I'm trying to keep a level head - which isn't easy when it's your baby - and I know and accept that realistically, the oddsmay not bein our favor...but I believe I would be remiss if I didn't try. One concern is that this is an eight cat household. Entirely too many cats..but that is another story.While this number will not increase - giving up even one is not an option. They live inside.
 Everyone elsehas been vaccinated and is in good health. MK is in the habit of being outside in the day and inside at night...but she doesn't leave the yard (truly an extraordinary cat person). Since she's been sick though - I've been keeping her inside except for brief periods in the afternoon when she wants to sunbathe on the front porch. I am concerned about infecting the other indoor cats who range in age from 2-7.Any information or recommendation would be most welcome.Thank you,  elizabeth  

Re: New to the list - hello / Re: To Elizabeth

2006-05-15 Thread ETrent




Thank you so much to everyone who responded to my first post. The 
encouragement means everything to me. Wendy, I would definitely like to 
have a copy of the manual - thank you.

Acemannan is an Aloe Vera derivative. It is manufactured by 
Vererinary Products Laboratories. Here is a link to the information about 
this drug on their website:

Veterinary 
Products Laboratories 
(http://www.vpl.com/product.php?catmain=mainkey=pid=80key=carravetcat=Wound%20Management)

The drug has been approved and there have been some studiesconcerning 
the efficacy of this drug. There are other applications of this drug 
aswell. The VPL website also has a link to 
distributors.The treatment for FeVLis ashot once a week 
in the tummy (but only under the skin). A typical course of 
treatmentis six weeks. 

This article was encouraging to me (although I am leery of articles by 
companies selling products):

FELINE LEUKEMIA VIRUS - 
TREATED WITH ALOE VERA (ACEMANNAN) 
(http://www.aloevera.co.uk/felinelv.htm)

All of MK's (Mama Kitty)kittens who have been tested have been 
negative. One of my cats, Tori, was the runt of her litter and is she is 
healthy and doing very well. A little over a year agoMK did get a 
very bad bite near the base of her tail which abscessed and required 
surgery. I can't help but wonder if this isn't how she acquired this 
disease. 

From what I've been able to determine, the nearest holistic veterinarian is 
about a 90 minute drive one way (same for a veterinary specialist). I don't know 
anything about that person and it may not be practical to make the drive. 
I was, however, able to find an interesting website that you may already be 
familiar with called 'Only Natural Pet Store':

Only Natural Pet Store - Dogs Cats 
Holistic Supplies Products Food Treats Vitamins Medicine Supplements 
(http://www.onlynaturalpet.com/)

From there I've ordered some 'New Life Colostrum Plus' for MKand the 
'Only Natural Pet Super Daily Feline Multi-Vitamin  Mineral' supplement for 
all of my cats. They have an interesting range of products there.

I got disgusted with Science Diet ayear or two agoand that is 
when I started having 'Chicken Soup for the Cat Lover's Soul' delivered here 
every month - as that product is not available where I live. The 
ingredients seem to be very high quality and the kids do like it. I've 
been checking out the Innova too since it's been mentioned here and it also has 
a very good ingredient list. The company that delivers the 
CSCLSalsohas that product available. I really appreciate all 
the good tips and insight.

Since we started the Acemannan on Friday and haven't missed a dose of 
ammoxi drops or pet tinic...MK is much perkier. I don't know if this is 
due to the treatment or due to the unpredictable nature of the disease but I am 
hopeful. She's eating much better than she was before and just seems to 
sparkle when she 'talks'. I'm making everyeffort to sterilize water 
and food bowls more frequently and washing bedding more often in very hot water 
just in case it will be beneficial. 

I've used ImmunoRegulin on the man of the house, Phelix, for his 
allergies. The shots were very reasonable - I'll discuss this with my vet 
when I return.

I'll keep you all posted on how this treatment goes. Thank you all 
again for the encouragement, insight, and stories of your own experiences. 
I've only been here a day or two but I already believe I have gained some 
valuable information.



Re: New to the list - hello / Re: To Elizabeth

2006-05-15 Thread Marylyn



Where are you located 
(generally)? Some of us may know a closer holistic vet. I understand 
the distance problem. The one I use is over 3 hours away. Dixie 
doesn't see her very often--maybe every couple of months--and Betty is always 
available if I need to check something out over the phone. She has Dixie 
on some drops (sorry, I forget what all she put together for her a long time 
ago) which seem to be keeping the virus at bay. 

Good luck.








 
If you have men who will exclude any of God's 
creatures 
from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who 
 
will deal likewise with their fellow 
man. 
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  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  
  Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 2:16 PM
  Subject: Re: New to the list - hello / 
  Re: To Elizabeth
  
  
  Thank you so much to everyone who responded to my first post. The 
  encouragement means everything to me. Wendy, I would definitely like to 
  have a copy of the manual - thank you.
  
  Acemannan is an Aloe Vera derivative. It is manufactured by 
  Vererinary Products Laboratories. Here is a link to the information 
  about this drug on their website:
  
  Veterinary 
  Products Laboratories 
  (http://www.vpl.com/product.php?catmain=mainkey=pid=80key=carravetcat=Wound%20Management)
  
  The drug has been approved and there have been some 
  studiesconcerning the efficacy of this drug. There are other 
  applications of this drug aswell. The VPL website also has a link 
  to distributors.The treatment for FeVLis ashot once a 
  week in the tummy (but only under the skin). A typical course of 
  treatmentis six weeks. 
  
  This article was encouraging to me (although I am leery of articles by 
  companies selling products):
  
  FELINE LEUKEMIA VIRUS - 
  TREATED WITH ALOE VERA (ACEMANNAN) 
  (http://www.aloevera.co.uk/felinelv.htm)
  
  All of MK's (Mama Kitty)kittens who have been tested have been 
  negative. One of my cats, Tori, was the runt of her litter and is she is 
  healthy and doing very well. A little over a year agoMK did get a 
  very bad bite near the base of her tail which abscessed and required 
  surgery. I can't help but wonder if this isn't how she acquired this 
  disease. 
  
  From what I've been able to determine, the nearest holistic veterinarian 
  is about a 90 minute drive one way (same for a veterinary specialist). I don't 
  know anything about that person and it may not be practical to make the 
  drive. I was, however, able to find an interesting website that you may 
  already be familiar with called 'Only Natural Pet Store':
  
  Only Natural Pet Store - Dogs 
  Cats Holistic Supplies Products Food Treats Vitamins Medicine Supplements 
  
  (http://www.onlynaturalpet.com/)
  
  From there I've ordered some 'New Life Colostrum Plus' for MKand 
  the 'Only Natural Pet Super Daily Feline Multi-Vitamin  Mineral' 
  supplement for all of my cats. They have an interesting range of 
  products there.
  
  I got disgusted with Science Diet ayear or two agoand that is 
  when I started having 'Chicken Soup for the Cat Lover's Soul' delivered here 
  every month - as that product is not available where I live. The 
  ingredients seem to be very high quality and the kids do like it. I've 
  been checking out the Innova too since it's been mentioned here and it also 
  has a very good ingredient list. The company that delivers the 
  CSCLSalsohas that product available. I really appreciate all 
  the good tips and insight.
  
  Since we started the Acemannan on Friday and haven't missed a dose of 
  ammoxi drops or pet tinic...MK is much perkier. I don't know if this is 
  due to the treatment or due to the unpredictable nature of the disease but I 
  am hopeful. She's eating much better than she was before and just seems 
  to sparkle when she 'talks'. I'm making everyeffort to sterilize 
  water and food bowls more frequently and washing bedding more often in very 
  hot water just in case it will be beneficial. 
  
  I've used ImmunoRegulin on the man of the house, Phelix, for his 
  allergies. The shots were very reasonable - I'll discuss this with my 
  vet when I return.
  
  I'll keep you all posted on how this treatment goes. Thank you all 
  again for the encouragement, insight, and stories of your own 
  experiences. I've only been here a day or two but I already believe I 
  have gained some valuable information.
  


Re: New to the list - hello.

2006-05-13 Thread Lernermichelle



Hi. Sounds like you are doing good things. I would heartily recommend 
that you use Immuno-Regulin. There are articles about it on the website. I 
personally had very good luck with it for upper respiratory infections, and 
someone on this list used it for anemia in a severely anemic cat (transfusion 
level anemic) a month ago and the cat seems ok now. I think her cat, Chelsea, 
has had 6 doses of it over the past month.
Michelle


Re: New to the list - hello.

2006-05-13 Thread Lance

Hi Elizabeth,

I'm sorry that you and your cat (MK?) are going through this, but it  
does sound like you're doing the right things. I think you should  
consider testing and vaccinating the other cats. I'd definitely test  
everyone, but the vax part is a bit more iffy. You won't deal with  
that decision until the other felines come back as negatives. If it's  
possible to isolate MK without too much stress to her and everyone  
else, that might also be something to consider as a temporary measure  
until you figure out the status of the other cats.


Nutrition is important, and Chicken Soup... seems to be a pretty  
good brand of food. My FeLV+ girl has been on their dry food and on  
Innova EVO canned. We'll probably be going to an all Innova EVO diet  
this weekend or early next week (our Chicken Soup... is about to  
run out). My Ember is also on Transfer Factor (the feline version),  
and while I don't know if it's helping anything yet (she has not  
begun to show symptoms yet), it doesn't seem like it could hurt.


I'll be interested to hear more about what you see happening with the  
Acemannan. It sounds like it's helping out your girl. My vet doesn't  
seem to think much of it, but I was also pretty interested in it.  
We're using low dose human interferon (1cc/day; 5 days on/5 days  
off). Ember tolerates it just fine, and it is non-invasive. Before  
she realizes that anything is going on, we've gotten the interferon  
down her throat, and she'll often just stay cradled in my arms for  
half a minute afterwards.


Please keep coming back here with any questions you have, and keep us  
updated on how your feline family members are doing. Take care.



Lance



Re: New to the list - hello.

2006-05-13 Thread Marylyn



First, don't let yourself be talked 
into killing her just because someone else has quality of life issues. You 
and she will know if and when it is time for her to leave this world with 
help. She may do like Kitty Katt and leave on her own. And that may 
be years and years from now. When Kitty was diagnosed with cancer the 
experts expected her to live a very few monthsshe lived 15 months and 
the quality of life was wonderful until the last 2-3 weeks. 
Listen to your heart and trust her to help you. She will. 


Dixie Louise Doodle was diagnosed 
with FeLV + a year ago. She is also just fine. We are having minor 
tooth problems but nothing you would not expect from a cat who was thrown away 
and lived pretty much on her own for several months. Given Kitty and 
Dixie I strongly suggest you forget about odds. The odds of being killed 
crossing a street are very small--unless you are the person killed then the odds 
are 100%. Concentrate on loving and caring for all your cats. Enjoy 
every minute with them (ok, almost every minute--sometimes it is hard). 


I like EVO myself and so does my 
holistic vet-by the way, holistic vets are great with FeLV+. I don't 
know where you are but my holistic vet is E A Boswell in Louisville KY. 
She has treated two of my dogs and two cats. She has definitely improved 
their lives and mine.

Good luck. 





 
If you have men who will exclude any of God's 
creatures 
from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who 
 
will deal likewise with their fellow 
man. 
St. Francis

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  
  Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2006 9:50 
AM
  Subject: New to the list - hello.
  
  I'm sorry this is so long - but it's my first post but I feel I need to 
  give some background information in the hope that some of you with more 
  experience may have recommendations. First and foremost - thank you for 
  being here...and to you who are going through the pain of having a 
  catfamily member suffer with this disease or who have lost someone close 
  - my heart is with you.
  
  Monday I noticed that a member of my cat family had a distinctly visible 
  nictating membrane on both eyes - nearly half way closed on one side. 
  The next morning, I took her to my vet's office. On a gut feeling, I 
  asked them to test her for FeVL. Although she had been vaccinated a 
  little over a year ago, she tested positive. The vet and the vet 
  tech gently prodded me to make a 'quality of life' decision that day. 
  She had lost about 14% of her body weight and didn't have enough of an immune 
  system to run a fever.
  
  (She was initiallya feral cat who adopted me two years ago and 
  blessedme with 12 kittens. My vet saidthat was a 
  record)
  
  Iam notready to say goodbye - she will let me know when it is 
  time. Right now she's not feeling that great (anemia) but sheseems 
  to have a decentquality of life. She ran up the steps to greet me 
  the next day with tail straight up in the air. I don't want to selfishly 
  keep her going just for me if she is truly suffering but myheart says it 
  isn't time.
  
  I asked if there was anything that would make her more comfortable. 
  They gaveher ammoxi dropsand 'Pet Tinic' to build her blood. 
  I told them toexpect me to have a lot of questions and they were very 
  understanding. 
  
  Itook offwork the rest of the day...came home and did my 
  research. That's when I found the Felineleukemia.org website. 
  Thanks totheinformation provided, I found out about Acemannan - a 
  drug my veterinarian had never heard about. I tracked down the 
  manufacturer and distributors and sent my vet a lot of information about it 
  and asked if this would be a reasonable course of treatment and if he would 
  assist me. 
  
  My vet was also able to find information about this drug and he got it 
  here in 2 days. We began treatment yesterday.
  
  Since my vet is not familiar with this drug - he told me that he really 
  didn't know what to expect in terms of how she would feel after the shot so 
  I've been watching her closely. It may be a coincidence but since she 
  got the shot - she's been eating more than I've seen her eat in a while. 
  For days I've been trying to get her to eat a teaspoon of canned 
  foodseveral times a day without muchsuccess and she wouldn't touch 
  her dry food. Yesterday after her first treatment, she ate dry food and 
  also about half a can of canned food. I'm trying not to have false hope 
  but I couldn't help but be encouraged.All the kids hereeat 
  'Chicken Soup for the Cat Lover's Soul' cat food. I have a feeling that 
  nutrition is going to play a huge role inhelping her to copewith 
  thisand so I am currently looking for diet and supplementation 
  information too.
  
  I'm trying to keep a level head - which isn't easy when it's your baby - 
  and I know and accept that realistically, the oddsmay not bein 

Re: New to the list - hello.

2006-05-13 Thread Nina




Hi Elizabeth and welcome. I'm sorry your baby isn't feeling well and
has tested pos for felv. We've all been were you are right now and
understand how upset you must be. Of course you're not ready to say
goodbye! I'm so glad you are willing to fight for her! Take a deep
breath, there are things you can do to help her. If you've had MK for
two years, it doesn't make any sense to create added stress by
separating her from the rest of your cats, (imo). Feeding a good
supplemented quality diet and keeping the stress level low are the two
best ways to help keep her asymptomatic. If your other cats were going
to contract felv from her, they probably already have. You could have
them all tested for your peace of mind, or test them if they become
sick. Since MK doesn't venture from your backyard and doesn't have
contact with neighborhood cats, (felv is a "social" type disease, they
have to have direct contact with a carrier to become infected, she
wouldn't get it from the environment. "When it dries, it dies".),
chances are she's had it all along. Most healthy adult cats, esp if
vaccinated, either don't contract it when exposed, or have strong
enough immune responses to fight it off and clear the virus.

I have no experience with Acemannan, so I can't help you with that.
One thing I would strongly suggest is for you to find a board certified
Internist to help you. Felv is so darn unpredictable. It's not the
Felv itself that our kitties succumb to, it's the secondary illness and
cancers that take hold because their immune systems have been
compromised. Bolstering their immune response and treating any sign of
illness immediately are your best weapons. An Internist will be
knowledgeable in kitty diseases and you won't waste time with GP vets
that would have to refer you to a specialist at some point anyway.

If she's showing symptoms of anemia, pale gums, licking concrete,
lethargy etc, you need to find out what the reason for the anemia is
and treat for that. The abx that your vet prescribed isn't a broad
spectrum, it may or may not help. Have you run blood tests? Has she
been tested for blood parasites? My Grace had problems with anemia and
even though the Hemobartinella, (blood parasites), test came back
negative my Internist was intuitive enough to put her on Doxycycline
anyway, it saved her life more than once.

I'm sure you'll get lots of great advice from the group. Weekends are
notoriously slow for us. Hang in there and post as many times as you
like about anything at all that you feel like talking about. This is
the nicest, best informed group of people you'll ever run across. I'm
so glad you found us. Keep your chin up and give your babies a head
bump from me.

One other thing... You mentioned that MK had a litter of 12 kittens.
Do you have contact with any of them? If she has been infected since
you got her, she very well may have passed the felv on to her babies
invitro. You might want to contact anyone that you can and tell them
about her status.
Nina

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
  
  
  I'm sorry this is so long - but it's my first post but I feel I
need to give some background information in the hope that some of you
with more experience may have recommendations. First and foremost -
thank you for being here...and to you who are going through the pain of
having a catfamily member suffer with this disease or who have lost
someone close - my heart is with you.
  
  Monday I noticed that a member of my cat family had a distinctly
visible nictating membrane on both eyes - nearly half way closed on one
side. The next morning, I took her to my vet's office. On a gut
feeling, I asked them to test her for FeVL. Although she had been
vaccinated a little over a year ago, she tested positive. The vet and
the vet tech gently prodded me to make a 'quality of life' decision
that day. She had lost about 14% of her body weight and didn't have
enough of an immune system to run a fever.
  
  (She was initiallya feral cat who adopted me two years ago and
blessedme with 12 kittens. My vet saidthat was a record)
  
  Iam notready to say goodbye - she will let me know when it is
time. Right now she's not feeling that great (anemia) but sheseems to
have a decentquality of life. She ran up the steps to greet me the
next day with tail straight up in the air. I don't want to selfishly
keep her going just for me if she is truly suffering but myheart says
it isn't time.
  
  I asked if there was anything that would make her more
comfortable. They gaveher ammoxi dropsand 'Pet Tinic' to build her
blood. I told them toexpect me to have a lot of questions and they
were very understanding. 
  
  Itook offwork the rest of the day...came home and did my
research. That's when I found the Felineleukemia.org website. Thanks
totheinformation provided, I found out about Acemannan - a drug my
veterinarian had never heard about. I tracked down the manufacturer
and distributors and sent my vet a lot of information about it and
asked if