RE: Postive and Negative Cats?
I'm glad you saw that, Kerry! I'm behind on my email. I definitely meant NOT expose a kitten."MacKenzie, Kerry N." [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would, however, knowingly expose a kitten, vaccinated or not. Tonya---just forbenefit of new members---you mean*not* expose, right. Kerry-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of catatonyaSent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 9:17 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: Postive and Negative Cats? Allie,I truly think you are safe to mix them. I always have, but I have vaccinated the negatives at least twice before doing so. However, sometimes with strays I haven't had that luxury. They were given one vaccination and mixed with the household. So far I haven't had any negatives contract the disease. I would, however, knowingly expose a kitten, vaccinated or not.tonyaAllie Deaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks everyone. Leo tested negative today and was vaccinated. Right now, he and Lola are separate, just because she's resting and he's trying to play with her and that's causing some problems. Being as how she might not have much time left and he's a 4 year old, very strong cat, I think I'll let them mix for Lola's remaining time on th! e planet. She's starting to lose a little weight (despite having a normal appetite) and the fluid in her lungs is...there...which is not a good sign. She's still acting quite happy and normal other than those two things.Allie On 11/26/05, Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Allie,Nice to meet you and welcome. I haven't read your other emails to the group, but I thought I'd weigh in here with mo.I mixed. None of my negatives, (all adults, all vaccinated), turned up positive in the two years that my pos babies lived. I never worried about separate feeding dishes, grooming, playing, or litterboxes, (they had already been mixed when I found out they were pos). I did however stop taking in any young, old! er, sick cats, or kittens. I still have one cat from my pos litter of bottle babies, (Tim). He tested negative and has remained asymptomatic. I haven't had him retested since, I figure if he ever gets sick, that will be time enough. There is one other kitten from the litter, Lucky, (litter of 6 I found at the back door of a spay/neuter clinic when they were only 2 1/2 weeks old), that was adopted out before we learned about their status. He too is doing wonderfully well, but lives alone and is an inside only cat. Lucky has never been tested. It's a tough decision about mixing, I don't want to live in a separated household, but I worried for a very long time about subjecting my negs to the possibility of contracting this terrible disease. Usually when faced with these hard choices, I go with quality of life over quantity.Nina Chris wrote:Four of my cats lived together for several years before I found out my Tucson was pos. They had not been felv vaccinated and two had come in as kittens. None of the other three tested pos and I vaccinate them every year. I did not even consider separating as they had all lived together for those years and no one had contracted felv. They eat together, use the same litter box, play with the same toys, groom each other, and on and on. I brought in a stray I had been feeding last year and it turned out he was pos but totally asymptomatic... So, I now have 5--2 pos, 3 neg and my biggest problem is that Tuscon hates the latest addition. Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED]-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Allie DeaverSent: Friday, November 25, 2005 8:17 PMTo: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Postive and Negative Cats?Hey everyone-I was wondering...my other cat hasn't been tested yet, but will be tomorrow. However, whether he is positive or negative, we have a problem. He either has to live with a positive cat or, when my FeLV+ kitty crosses teh bridge, or if he's positive and can't go into remission (he shows no symptoms of anything, he's a very healthy cat overall, except for the usual occassional kitty eye goobers and hairballs), he'll need a companion, since he does NOT do well alone. I've been looking for someone with FeLV+ cats for adoption in my area (Chicago), with no avail. That, and the cats I take in tend to be needy, homeless strays that choose me (who are then taken immediately to the vet to be tested, have inital rabies and FVRCP vacs and an exam before they ever meet the other resident cat, since I can only have 2 at a time). And anyway, if he's a neg, I ! have no plans to cast off my kitten just because she has this diagnosis. So how do you guys do it? Everything I've ever read says "remove all positive cats from the household" or "elect euthanasia if you have a multi-cat household" as if it were that easy. I'm aware that some of you keep both positives and negatives together...so I have some questions and I would really love it if you
RE: Postive and Negative Cats?
Title: Message I would, however, knowingly expose a kitten, vaccinated or not. Tonya---just forbenefit of new members---you mean*not* expose, right. Kerry -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of catatonyaSent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 9:17 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: Postive and Negative Cats? Allie, I truly think you are safe to mix them. I always have, but I have vaccinated the negatives at least twice before doing so. However, sometimes with strays I haven't had that luxury. They were given one vaccination and mixed with the household. So far I haven't had any negatives contract the disease. I would, however, knowingly expose a kitten, vaccinated or not. tonyaAllie Deaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks everyone. Leo tested negative today and was vaccinated. Right now, he and Lola are separate, just because she's resting and he's trying to play with her and that's causing some problems. Being as how she might not have much time left and he's a 4 year old, very strong cat, I think I'll let them mix for Lola's remaining time on th! e planet. She's starting to lose a little weight (despite having a normal appetite) and the fluid in her lungs is...there...which is not a good sign. She's still acting quite happy and normal other than those two things.Allie On 11/26/05, Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Allie,Nice to meet you and welcome. I haven't read your other emails to the group, but I thought I'd weigh in here with mo.I mixed. None of my negatives, (all adults, all vaccinated), turned up positive in the two years that my pos babies lived. I never worried about separate feeding dishes, grooming, playing, or litterboxes, (they had already been mixed when I found out they were pos). I did however stop taking in any young, old! er, sick cats, or kittens. I still have one cat from my pos litter of bottle babies, (Tim). He tested negative and has remained asymptomatic. I haven't had him retested since, I figure if he ever gets sick, that will be time enough. There is one other kitten from the litter, Lucky, (litter of 6 I found at the back door of a spay/neuter clinic when they were only 2 1/2 weeks old), that was adopted out before we learned about their status. He too is doing wonderfully well, but lives alone and is an inside only cat. Lucky has never been tested. It's a tough decision about mixing, I don't want to live in a separated household, but I worried for a very long time about subjecting my negs to the possibility of contracting this terrible disease. Usually when faced with these hard choices, I go with quality of life over quantity.Nina Chris wrote: Four of my cats lived together for several years before I found out my Tucson was pos. They had not been felv vaccinated and two had come in as kittens. None of the other three tested pos and I vaccinate them every year. I did not even consider separating as they had all lived together for those years and no one had contracted felv. They eat together, use the same litter box, play with the same toys, groom each other, and on and on. I brought in a stray I had been feeding last year and it turned out he was pos but totally asymptomatic... So, I now have 5--2 pos, 3 neg and my biggest problem is that Tuscon hates the latest addition. Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Allie DeaverSent: Friday, November 25, 2005 8:17 PMTo: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Postive and Negative Cats?Hey everyone-I was wondering...my other cat hasn't been tested yet, but will be tomorrow. However, whether he is positive or negative, we have a problem. He either has to live with a positive cat or, when my FeLV+ kitty crosses teh bridge, or if he's positive and can't go into remission (he shows no symptoms of anything, he's a very healthy cat overall, except for the usual occassional kitty eye goobers and hairballs), he'll need a companion, since he does NOT do well alone. I've been looking for someone with FeLV+ cats for adoption in my area (Chicago), with no avail. That, and the cats I take in tend to be needy, homeless strays that choose me (who are then taken immediately to the vet to be tested, have inital rabies and FVRCP vacs and an exam before they ever meet the other resident cat, since I can only have 2 at a time). And anyway, if he's a neg, I ! have no plans to cast off my kitten just because she has this diagnosis. So how do you guys do it? Everything I've ever read says "remov
Re: RE: Postive and Negative Cats?
Bonnie,How old were your cats who contracted the leukemia and died when you brought in the new kitten? When I brought in my positive kitten I had one other kitten, but the rest were adults. None of mine contracted the disease, but they had all been vaccinated though.tBONNIE J KALMBACH [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I also unknowingly adopted a positive kitten, but he had tested a falsenegative. My five other kitties were unvaccinated; three caught thevirus and died within two years as did the kitten. A third kitty testedpositive after that debacle, but threw off the virus.I certainly wouldn't mix positives and negatives as the vaccine is onlysaid to be 85 per cent effective.just my two cents,Bonniewww.elephants.com- Original Message -From: Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Date: Friday, November 25, 2005 8:39 pmSubject: RE: Postive and Negative Cats?To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Four of my cats lived together for several years before I found out my Tucson was pos. They had not been felv vaccinated and two had come in as kittens. None of the other three tested pos and I vaccinate them everyyear. I did not even consider separating as they had all lived together for those years and no one had contracted felv. They eat together, use the same litter box, play with the same toys, groom each other, and on and on. I brought in a stray I had been feeding last year and it turned out he was pos but totally asymptomatic... So, I now have 5--2 pos, 3 neg and my biggestproblem is that Tuscon hates the latest addition. Chris <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Allie Deaver Sent: Friday, November 25, 2005 8:17 PM To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Postive and Negative Cats? Hey everyone- I was wondering...my other cat hasn't been tested yet, but will be tomorrow.However, whether he is positive or negative, we have a problem. He either has to live with a positive cat or, when my FeLV+ kitty crosses teh bridge,or if he's positive and can't go into remission (he shows no symptoms of anything, he's a very healthy cat overall, except for the usual occassionalkitty eye goobers and hairballs), he'll need a companion, since he does NOT do well alone. I've been looking for someone with FeLV+ cats for adoption in my area (Chicago), with no avail. That, and the cats I take in tend to be needy, homeless strays that choose me (who are then taken immediately to the vet to be tested, have inital rabies and FVRCP vacs and an exam before they ever meet the other resident cat, since I can only have 2 at a time). And anyway, if he's a neg, I have no plans to cast off my kitten just becauseshe has this diagnosis. So how do you guys do it? Everything I've ever read says "remove all positive cats from the household" or "elect euthanasia if you have a multi-cat household" as if it were that easy. I'm aware that some of you keep both positives and negatives together...so I have some questions and I would really love it if you guys would share some of your experiences with me: -How do you do it? Are they separated in any way within your home? -How do you control the virus in terms of cleaning and separation of LB's and dishes? -CAN the virus be contained? What other precautions do you take? -Does this mean I have to stop bringing treated/vaccinated rescued negs into my house as long as I have a positive cat, should Leo test positive? -In your experience, how quickly and readily does the virus spread? Everything I've read basically says that if you have one positive, you can count on having more if you're in a multi-cat household. -In a household with both negs and positive cats, do you vaccinate the negs? Why or why not? I've already gotten some input from Belinda (thank you!) but I just kind of want to take a survey to see the various outcomes and know all of my options. If anyone can spare some good vibes that Leo is negative and Lola's symtoms remain under control at least until we can seek further treatmentoptions, I'd greatly appreciate it! Thanks guy! You are a terrific group! Allie
Re: Postive and Negative Cats?
What seems to be the case is that a good many healthy adult non-vaccinated cats will either contract and then clear the virus, or never get it at all, some unfortunately as in Bonnie's case do obviously succumb. From my observations, it is highly unlikely for a healthy adult cat that has been previously vaccinated to contract felv. I just read an article that confirmed this. It stated how it is virtually impossible to conclude the effectiveness of the felv vac in studies, (in this person's opinion), because the control group of unvaccinated cats either cleared the virus anyway, or did not become infected. I'm trying to remember where I read that article... I seem to remember that Bonnie's cats were not kittens. I hate this disease. N catatonya wrote: Bonnie, How old were your cats who contracted the leukemia and died when you brought in the new kitten? When I brought in my positive kitten I had one other kitten, but the rest were adults. None of mine contracted the disease, but they had all been vaccinated though. t */BONNIE J KALMBACH [EMAIL PROTECTED]/* wrote: I also unknowingly adopted a positive kitten, but he had tested a false negative. My five other kitties were unvaccinated; three caught the virus and died within two years as did the kitten. A third kitty tested positive after that debacle, but threw off the virus. I certainly wouldn't mix positives and negatives as the vaccine is only said to be 85 per cent effective. just my two cents, Bonnie www.elephants.com - Original Message - From: Chris Date: Friday, November 25, 2005 8:39 pm Subject: RE: Postive and Negative Cats? To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Four of my cats lived together for several years before I found out my Tucson was pos. They had not been felv vaccinated and two had come in as kittens. None of the other three tested pos and I vaccinate them everyyear. I did not even consider separating as they had all lived together for those years and no one had contracted felv. They eat together, use the same litter box, play with the same toys, groom each other, and on and on. I brought in a stray I had been feeding last year and it turned out he was pos but totally asymptomatic... So, I now have 5--2 pos, 3 neg and my biggestproblem is that Tuscon hates the latest addition. Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Allie Deaver Sent: Friday, November 25, 2005 8:17 PM To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Postive and Negative Cats? Hey everyone- I was wondering...my other cat hasn't been tested yet, but will be tomorrow.However, whether he is positive or negative, we have a problem. He either has to live with a positive cat or, when my FeLV+ kitty crosses teh bridge,or if he's positive and can't go into remission (he shows no symptoms of anything, he's a very healthy cat overall, except for the usual occassionalkitty eye goobers and hairballs), he'll need a companion, since he does NOT do well alone. I've been looking for someone with FeLV+ cats for adoption in my area (Chicago), with no avail. That, and the cats I take in tend to be needy, homeless strays that choose me (who are then taken immediately to the vet to be tested, have inital rabies and FVRCP vacs and an exam before they ever meet the other resident cat, since I can only have 2 at a time). And anyway, if he's a neg, I have no plans to cast off my kitten just becauseshe has this diagnosis. So how do you guys do it? Everything I've ever read says remove all positive cats from the household or elect euthanasia if you have a multi-cat household as if it were that easy. I'm aware that some of you keep both positives and negatives together...so I have some questions and I would really love it if you guys would share some of your experiences with me: -How do you do it? Are they separated in any way within your home? -How do you control the virus in terms of cleaning and separation of LB's and dishes? -CAN the virus be contained? What other precautions do you take? -Does this mean I have to stop bringing treated/vaccinated rescued negs into my house as long as I have a positive cat, should Leo test positive? -In your experience, how quickly and readily does the virus spread? Everything I've read basically says that if you have one positive, you can count on having more if you're in a multi-cat household. -In a household with both negs and positive cats, do you vaccinate the negs? Why or why not? I've already gotten
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I also unknowingly adopted a positive kitten, but he had tested a false negative. My five other kitties were unvaccinated; three caught the virus and died within two years as did the kitten. A third kitty tested positive after that debacle, but threw off the virus. I certainly wouldn't mix positives and negatives as the vaccine is only said to be 85 per cent effective. just my two cents, Bonnie www.elephants.com - Original Message - From: Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, November 25, 2005 8:39 pm Subject: RE: Postive and Negative Cats? To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Four of my cats lived together for several years before I found out my Tucson was pos. They had not been felv vaccinated and two had come in as kittens. None of the other three tested pos and I vaccinate them everyyear. I did not even consider separating as they had all lived together for those years and no one had contracted felv. They eat together, use the same litter box, play with the same toys, groom each other, and on and on. I brought in a stray I had been feeding last year and it turned out he was pos but totally asymptomatic... So, I now have 5--2 pos, 3 neg and my biggestproblem is that Tuscon hates the latest addition. Chris mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Allie Deaver Sent: Friday, November 25, 2005 8:17 PM To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Postive and Negative Cats? Hey everyone- I was wondering...my other cat hasn't been tested yet, but will be tomorrow.However, whether he is positive or negative, we have a problem. He either has to live with a positive cat or, when my FeLV+ kitty crosses teh bridge,or if he's positive and can't go into remission (he shows no symptoms of anything, he's a very healthy cat overall, except for the usual occassionalkitty eye goobers and hairballs), he'll need a companion, since he does NOT do well alone. I've been looking for someone with FeLV+ cats for adoption in my area (Chicago), with no avail. That, and the cats I take in tend to be needy, homeless strays that choose me (who are then taken immediately to the vet to be tested, have inital rabies and FVRCP vacs and an exam before they ever meet the other resident cat, since I can only have 2 at a time). And anyway, if he's a neg, I have no plans to cast off my kitten just becauseshe has this diagnosis. So how do you guys do it? Everything I've ever read says remove all positive cats from the household or elect euthanasia if you have a multi-cat household as if it were that easy. I'm aware that some of you keep both positives and negatives together...so I have some questions and I would really love it if you guys would share some of your experiences with me: -How do you do it? Are they separated in any way within your home? -How do you control the virus in terms of cleaning and separation of LB's and dishes? -CAN the virus be contained? What other precautions do you take? -Does this mean I have to stop bringing treated/vaccinated rescued negs into my house as long as I have a positive cat, should Leo test positive? -In your experience, how quickly and readily does the virus spread? Everything I've read basically says that if you have one positive, you can count on having more if you're in a multi-cat household. -In a household with both negs and positive cats, do you vaccinate the negs? Why or why not? I've already gotten some input from Belinda (thank you!) but I just kind of want to take a survey to see the various outcomes and know all of my options. If anyone can spare some good vibes that Leo is negative and Lola's symtoms remain under control at least until we can seek further treatmentoptions, I'd greatly appreciate it! Thanks guy! You are a terrific group! Allie
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Hi Allie, I took a poll here not too long ago regarding mixing positives and negatives (I haven't posted the results to as I was waiting for anyone who hadn't had a chance to send in their experiences yet to do so). I will probably post the results next week. But overwhelmingly, there is no real evidence that mixing positives and negatives will result in negatives contracting FeLV from the positives. Bonnie (I think) posted that she had a couple that did contract it from another, but from what I understood in the post, they were kittens. We have figured out that kittens are the most susceptible to succumbing to the disease, and maybe they are more susceptible to contracting it. But many of us believe that those that turn up with it later probably were born with it versus being exposed. There's probably nothing you can do at home sanitary wise to combat FeLV other than physically separating the cats, and anything that they might share in the way of litter, food, and water as well as saliva (from grooming). But I am not convinced that it's so easy to contract the virus. If cats are grooming each other every day and are VERY close and intimate, I can see the chances increasing dramatically, but if not, then I believe the opposite to be true. I have three inside cats now that Cricket passed away. Two of them are 9, and one 16. None of them were ever separated from Cricket inside the home and none have contracted FeLV, even though the two 9 year olds lived with him for 4 and a half years and the 16 year old lived with him for a year. They have always shared all dishes and litter boxes. I never took any precautions, although I didn't know until 2 years ago that Cricket had FeLV. I haven't vaccinated any of them in the last two years, as it hadn't been 3 years since their last vaccination between the time we found out about Cricket and when he died. I will not vaccinate them next year because they are solely inside cats. Many of us here think that most sources say to remove all negatives immediately or euthanize immediately because the vets truly don't know how the disease is spread exactly and that's the best thing they can say to try make sure they are 100% right. One of my vets told me that there is no evidence to support FeLV being contracting in any way other than through blood (a fight) or birth. He said everything else is just propaganda right now, and I agree with him. I am sending vibes your way for Leo to be negative, although I suspect he will be. And also for Lola. Keep us posted. :) Wendy __ Start your day with Yahoo! - Make it your home page! http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
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Thanks everyone. Leo tested negative today and was vaccinated. Right now, he and Lola are separate, just because she's resting and he's trying to play with her and that's causing some problems. Being as how she might not have much time left and he's a 4 year old, very strong cat, I think I'll let them mix for Lola's remaining time on the planet. She's starting to lose a little weight (despite having a normal appetite) and the fluid in her lungs is...there...which is not a good sign. She's still acting quite happy and normal other than those two things. AllieOn 11/26/05, Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Allie, Nice to meet you and welcome. I haven't read your other emails to the group, but I thought I'd weigh in here with mo. I mixed. None of my negatives, (all adults, all vaccinated), turned up positive in the two years that my pos babies lived. I never worried about separate feeding dishes, grooming, playing, or litterboxes, (they had already been mixed when I found out they were pos). I did however stop taking in any young, older, sick cats, or kittens. I still have one cat from my pos litter of bottle babies, (Tim). He tested negative and has remained asymptomatic. I haven't had him retested since, I figure if he ever gets sick, that will be time enough. There is one other kitten from the litter, Lucky, (litter of 6 I found at the back door of a spay/neuter clinic when they were only 2 1/2 weeks old), that was adopted out before we learned about their status. He too is doing wonderfully well, but lives alone and is an inside only cat. Lucky has never been tested. It's a tough decision about mixing, I don't want to live in a separated household, but I worried for a very long time about subjecting my negs to the possibility of contracting this terrible disease. Usually when faced with these hard choices, I go with quality of life over quantity. Nina Chris wrote: Four of my cats lived together for several years before I found out my Tucson was pos. They had not been felv vaccinated and two had come in as kittens. None of the other three tested pos and I vaccinate them every year. I did not even consider separating as they had all lived together for those years and no one had contracted felv. They eat together, use the same litter box, play with the same toys, groom each other, and on and on. I brought in a stray I had been feeding last year and it turned out he was pos but totally asymptomatic... So, I now have 5--2 pos, 3 neg and my biggest problem is that Tuscon hates the latest addition. Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Allie Deaver Sent: Friday, November 25, 2005 8:17 PM To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Postive and Negative Cats? Hey everyone- I was wondering...my other cat hasn't been tested yet, but will be tomorrow. However, whether he is positive or negative, we have a problem. He either has to live with a positive cat or, when my FeLV+ kitty crosses teh bridge, or if he's positive and can't go into remission (he shows no symptoms of anything, he's a very healthy cat overall, except for the usual occassional kitty eye goobers and hairballs), he'll need a companion, since he does NOT do well alone. I've been looking for someone with FeLV+ cats for adoption in my area (Chicago), with no avail. That, and the cats I take in tend to be needy, homeless strays that choose me (who are then taken immediately to the vet to be tested, have inital rabies and FVRCP vacs and an exam before they ever meet the other resident cat, since I can only have 2 at a time). And anyway, if he's a neg, I have no plans to cast off my kitten just because she has this diagnosis. So how do you guys do it? Everything I've ever read says remove all positive cats from the household or elect euthanasia if you have a multi-cat household as if it were that easy. I'm aware that some of you keep both positives and negatives together...so I have some questions and I would really love it if you guys would share some of your experiences with me: -How do you do it? Are they separated in any way within your home? -How do you control the virus in terms of cleaning and separation of LB's and dishes? -CAN the virus be contained? What other precautions do you take? -Does this mean I have to stop bringing treated/vaccinated rescued negs into my house as long as I have a positive cat, should Leo test positive? -In your experience, how quickly and readily does the virus spread? Everything I've read basically says that if you have one positive, you can count on having more if you're in a multi-cat household. -In a household with both negs and positive cats, do you vaccinate the negs? Why or why not? I've already gotten some input from Belinda (thank you!) but I just kind of want to take a survey to see the various outcomes and know all of my options. If anyone can spare
RE: Postive and Negative Cats?
Title: Message Four of my cats lived together for several years before I found out my Tucson was pos. They had not been felv vaccinated and two had come in as kittens. None of the other three tested pos and I vaccinate them every year. I did not even consider separating as they had all lived together for those years and no one had contracted felv. They eat together, use the same litter box, play with the same toys, groom each other, and on and on. I brought in a stray I had been feeding last year and it turned out he was pos but totally asymptomatic... So, I now have 5--2 pos, 3 neg and my biggest problem is that Tuscon hates the latest addition. Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Allie DeaverSent: Friday, November 25, 2005 8:17 PMTo: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Postive and Negative Cats?Hey everyone-I was wondering...my other cat hasn't been tested yet, but will be tomorrow. However, whether he is positive or negative, we have a problem. He either has to live with a positive cat or, when my FeLV+ kitty crosses teh bridge, or if he's positive and can't go into remission (he shows no symptoms of anything, he's a very healthy cat overall, except for the usual occassional kitty eye goobers and hairballs), he'll need a companion, since he does NOT do well alone. I've been looking for someone with FeLV+ cats for adoption in my area (Chicago), with no avail. That, and the cats I take in tend to be needy, homeless strays that choose me (who are then taken immediately to the vet to be tested, have inital rabies and FVRCP vacs and an exam before they ever meet the other resident cat, since I can only have 2 at a time). And anyway, if he's a neg, I have no plans to cast off my kitten just because she has this diagnosis. So how do you guys do it? Everything I've ever read says "remove all positive cats from the household" or "elect euthanasia if you have a multi-cat household" as if it were that easy. I'm aware that some of you keep both positives and negatives together...so I have some questions and I would really love it if you guys would share some of your experiences with me:-How do you do it? Are they separated in any way within your home?-How do you control the virus in terms of cleaning and separation of LB's and dishes?-CAN the virus be contained? What other precautions do you take?-Does this mean I have to stop bringing treated/vaccinated rescued negs into my house as long as I have a positive cat, should Leo test positive?-In your experience, how quickly and readily does the virus spread? Everything I've read basically says that if you have one positive, you can count on having more if you're in a multi-cat household. -In a household with both negs and positive cats, do you vaccinate the negs? Why or why not?I've already gotten some input from Belinda (thank you!) but I just kind of want to take a survey to see the various outcomes and know all of my options. If anyone can spare some good vibes that Leo is negative and Lola's symtoms remain under control at least until we can seek further treatment options, I'd greatly appreciate it!Thanks guy! You are a terrific group!Allie
Re: Postive and Negative Cats?
In my experience, the virus did not spread at all. No segregation, and they shared litterboxes, bowls, and water fountains, and mutual groomed each other. Jennhttp://ucat.ushttp://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.htmlAdopt a cat from UCAT rescue:http://ucat.us/adopt.html Adopt a FIV+ cat: http://ucat.us/AWrescue/FIV/Adopt a FELV+ cat:http://ucat.us/FELVadopt.html~~~I collect KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil, a 3 yr old special needs cat who must live on a liquid diet for the rest of his life.Bazil's caretaker collects labels and sends them to KMR, where they add up until she earns a free can of formula!PLEASE save your KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil!If you use KMR, even just one can, please email me for the NEW address to send them to!~Does your cat have chronic diarrhea that does not respond to treatment, or has your cat been loosely diagnosed as IBD? Have you tested for Tritrichomonosis? The test is new, the new drug makes it curable. Ask me today how you can test for Trich! No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.7/182 - Release Date: 11/24/2005
