Re: Transferring the Virus

2007-09-20 Thread Dawn Morrison
Tonya,

My 4 year old was tested (-) and vaccinated when she was 6 months old.
My 10 year old we inherited from family and as far as we can tell he had never 
been vaccinated.
Immediately after we learned Bea was positive (2 weeks ago today) we took them 
both in and had them tested (-) and vaccinated but the vet said it would be too 
early to tell if they'd contracted the virus, she said it would be at least 6 
months before we knew for sureand a long six months it's going to be.

Dawn





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Have the two other cats ever been tested or vaccinated before?
  tonya

Dawn Morrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hello again everyone,
   
  Before I had Bea tested, she was with my two other catkids (ages 4  10 
years) for 4 days - sharing food (wet  dry), water and liter box. 
  It was only after that 4 days did we realize Bea tested positive (Elisa  IFA)
  We immediately took our other two in and had them tested (negative but too 
early to tell) and vaccinated.
  In anyone's opinion, how great of a chance do you think they will test 
positive in 6 months when I re-test them? Do you think there was enough 
exposure in those 4 days? I am particularly worried about my 4 year old because 
I fed them all wet food and she immediately eats anything that is leftover from 
all 3 bowls.
   
  Also, Bea is now quarantined in a bedroom by herself and I visit with her as 
much as possible when I am home - even sleeping with her at night time to give 
her some human contact (much to my husbands dismay). I wash my hands thoroughly 
when I leave the room and bea has her own bowls/water dishes that I keep 
seperate from my others. She has her own litter box as well. Is it possible to 
spread any of the virus from just walking around the room, transferring it on 
my clothes then walking through the rest of my house? I'm just so concerened 
I'm passing it around more.
   
  Thanks
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RE: Transferring the Virus

2007-09-20 Thread catatonya
Agreed, but cats won't test positive due to the vaccination.
  tonya

Rosenfeldt, Diane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
DIV {   MARGIN: 0px  }Dawn, I'm far from the big expert, but I 
think the chances are almost nonexistent that you're transferring anything by 
just walking from room to room.  The motto for the virus is if it dries, it 
dies.  It reminds me of a memorable passage in the book Everything You Always 
Wanted to Know About Sex... in which someone asked if you can catch STDs from 
toilet seats.  The answer was, yes, under the following circumstances:  someone 
with an open genital sore (I know, TMI) uses a toilet and presses the sore 
against the toilet seat.  Seconds later, you, also with a sore, use the same 
toilet and press your sore against the same spot.  Otherwise, no. ;-)  So 
unless you go from, say, cleaning your FeLV+ kitty's teeth, to your healthy 
kitties within seconds, with your fingers still wet with saliva, it's not gonna 
happen.  Also, somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but won't the others now 
automatically test positive because they have the vaccine in
 them?  In any case, I'm not sure there's a real need to segregate Bea from 
everybody now.  
   
  Diane R.
 



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  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dawn Morrison
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 11:12 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Transferring the Virus


  
Hello again everyone,
   
  Before I had Bea tested, she was with my two other catkids (ages 4  10 
years) for 4 days - sharing food (wet  dry), water and liter box. 
  It was only after that 4 days did we realize Bea tested positive (Elisa  IFA)
  We immediately took our other two in and had them tested (negative but too 
early to tell) and vaccinated.
  In anyone's opinion, how great of a chance do you think they will test 
positive in 6 months when I re-test them? Do you think there was enough 
exposure in those 4 days? I am particularly worried about my 4 year old because 
I fed them all wet food and she immediately eats anything that is leftover from 
all 3 bowls.
   
  Also, Bea is now quarantined in a bedroom by herself and I visit with her as 
much as possible when I am home - even sleeping with her at night time to give 
her some human contact (much to my husbands dismay). I wash my hands thoroughly 
when I leave the room and bea has her own bowls/water dishes that I keep 
seperate from my others. She has her own litter box as well. Is it possible to 
spread any of the virus from just walking around the room, transferring it on 
my clothes then walking through the rest of my house? I'm just so concerened 
I'm passing it around more.
   
  Thanks
  Dawn




  
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Re: Transferring the Virus

2007-09-19 Thread Dawn Morrison
Melissa and everyone,
Thanks for your input.
I am still highly concerned that my 4 year old will test positive since she 
would immediately eat the wet food that was leftover in the food bowl the FeLV+ 
ate out of and she was not vaccinated at the time. Only time will tell I guess, 
it's going to be a long couple of months waiting for the retest.

After the vaccination, I understood that they will test positive but not for 
very long afterwards. Our vet suggested having them retested in 6 months, she 
said by then we'll have a better idea if the virus has settled in their system.

Yes, I am the one living near Chicago who is looking for a home for Bea. Still 
looking for a home for the little one if anyone knows of someone!!
I am just so uncertain of keeping my positive and negatives together, I know no 
one knows the answer and it truly is a hard decision to make. I have heard pro 
and cons from both sides. I think my biggest concern is our 4 year old, she 
likes to play bite and Bea still have her claws. 

Thanks
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Re: Transferring the Virus

2007-09-19 Thread Kelley Saveika
The FELV vaccine does not cause a positive test result.

The FIV vaccine causes a positive test result, which is one reason it
isn't recommended.  (If the kitty gets away and to a shelter and they
test the kitty she will come up +)

On 9/19/07, Dawn Morrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Melissa and everyone,
 Thanks for your input.
 I am still highly concerned that my 4 year old will test positive since she
 would immediately eat the wet food that was leftover in the food bowl the
 FeLV+ ate out of and she was not vaccinated at the time. Only time will tell
 I guess, it's going to be a long couple of months waiting for the retest.

 After the vaccination, I understood that they will test positive but not for
 very long afterwards. Our vet suggested having them retested in 6 months,
 she said by then we'll have a better idea if the virus has settled in their
 system.

 Yes, I am the one living near Chicago who is looking for a home for Bea.
 Still looking for a home for the little one if anyone knows of someone!!
 I am just so uncertain of keeping my positive and negatives together, I know
 no one knows the answer and it truly is a hard decision to make. I have
 heard pro and cons from both sides. I think my biggest concern is our 4 year
 old, she likes to play bite and Bea still have her claws.

 Thanks
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RE: Transferring the Virus

2007-09-19 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
Oh, I stand corrected.  I knew there was a vaccine that turns up
positive when tested, but was confused about which.  Thanks, Kelly!

Diane R.

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The FELV vaccine does not cause a positive test result.

The FIV vaccine causes a positive test result, which is one reason it
isn't recommended.  (If the kitty gets away and to a shelter and they
test the kitty she will come up +)

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RE: Transferring the Virus

2007-09-19 Thread Melissa Lind
Hi Dawn,

 

Of course, I forgot again last night to look up that stuff I wanted for you!
I had piano students over, and it gets kinda crazy with trying to make sure
all the cats stay inside and that the kids aren't terrorizing my oldest cat
too much! He can only be pushed so far, and sometimes these kids seem to
forget the differences between dogs and cats. I can just imagine the claws
flying and kids crying and parents complaining..:-)

 

Anyway, I think you're justified in being nervous and scared, but for the
time being until you can test again, try not to obsess too much. I had
someone ask me recently if my worrying had helped me in any way. Hmmm.nope.
It only makes things worse. However, it's easier said than done since I
worry constantly about everything! So I understand what you mean when you
say that it will be a long wait for the next test.

 

I think it's important to weigh both sides and make a decision that you are
truly comfortable with when it comes to mixing. I think that once you've
listened to both points of view, what you ultimately decide has to be based
on what you feel in your gut or heart or whatever. I wouldn't mix, but I
understand that many are very successful with it. But, I have no FeLV
kitties right now, so time will tell.

 

I'm writing down your address so when I get home I'll remember to get that
info emailed to you! Sorry I keep forgetting!

 

Melissa

 

P.S. Those of you with multiple cats will understand my happiness and
excitement when last night I got that best compliment: One of my student's
parents said, Your house smells so good! Take that those who say that
they can ALWAYS tell when people have cats because of the stink! Ha! (On the
other hand, thank goodness for Febreeze!)

 

 

 

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dawn Morrison
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 11:29 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Transferring the Virus

 

Melissa and everyone,

Thanks for your input.

I am still highly concerned that my 4 year old will test positive since she
would immediately eat the wet food that was leftover in the food bowl the
FeLV+ ate out of and she was not vaccinated at the time. Only time will tell
I guess, it's going to be a long couple of months waiting for the retest.

 

After the vaccination, I understood that they will test positive but not for
very long afterwards. Our vet suggested having them retested in 6 months,
she said by then we'll have a better idea if the virus has settled in their
system.

 

Yes, I am the one living near Chicago who is looking for a home for Bea.
Still looking for a home for the little one if anyone knows of someone!!

I am just so uncertain of keeping my positive and negatives together, I know
no one knows the answer and it truly is a hard decision to make. I have
heard pro and cons from both sides. I think my biggest concern is our 4 year
old, she likes to play bite and Bea still have her claws. 

 

Thanks

Dawn


 

 

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Re: Transferring the Virus

2007-09-19 Thread glenda Goodman
Dawn,
I have to wonder why a cat would test pos. after a
feline leukemia vaccination? I'm wondering if
different vets use different vaccines? My vet uses a
killed virus vaccine. I have had her explain this to
me a couple times , because I keep doubting a cat
cannot test pos. after a vaccination...
Well, she finally said, it is antigens that show up in
a pos. FeLV test not,  antibodies...
I continue to wonder, because I have heard so many
times from people that believe the vaccination can
skew the FeLV test? Dawn, was it your vet that gave
you that information? I know the FIV vaccination will
make a FIV negative cat show pos. on an FIV test. That
is the biggest reason that the FIV vaccine is not
offered by many clinics...They also say it is really
not that effective?
If some of you better informed people want to chime in
I would be grateful, so once and for all we can get
clear on this...
Thanks, Glenda

--- Dawn Morrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Melissa and everyone,
 Thanks for your input.
 I am still highly concerned that my 4 year old will
 test positive since she would immediately eat the
 wet food that was leftover in the food bowl the
 FeLV+ ate out of and she was not vaccinated at the
 time. Only time will tell I guess, it's going to be
 a long couple of months waiting for the retest.
 
 After the vaccination, I understood that they will
 test positive but not for very long afterwards. Our
 vet suggested having them retested in 6 months, she
 said by then we'll have a better idea if the virus
 has settled in their system.
 
 Yes, I am the one living near Chicago who is looking
 for a home for Bea. Still looking for a home for the
 little one if anyone knows of someone!!
 I am just so uncertain of keeping my positive and
 negatives together, I know no one knows the answer
 and it truly is a hard decision to make. I have
 heard pro and cons from both sides. I think my
 biggest concern is our 4 year old, she likes to play
 bite and Bea still have her claws. 
 
 Thanks
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Re: Transferring the Virus

2007-09-19 Thread linda gata
Glenda:
  I happen to have a black  white boy, Oreo. When he was tested at 8 weeks old 
he was negative. Then 21 days later after his Felv vaccine , Oreo went to ER 
with a fever of 105, letargy, wbc were at 2.5.. At the clinic they tested him 
and came back positive. I summited another test 4 days later: IFA, it came back 
positive. What I wonder is : is there any relation between the FELV vaccine and 
his sickness? Anyhow, he was fine until a few motnhs later, and upper 
respiratory infection, no fever. He got treated right away. Now he is 
clinically fine, 18 months old big baby boy. But still his wbc are at 3.5 , 
borderline. He is on Immunoregulin and daily he receives 3 capsules of transfer 
factor plus on his wet food. So far he is fine.
  Maricarmen

glenda Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Dawn,
I have to wonder why a cat would test pos. after a
feline leukemia vaccination? I'm wondering if
different vets use different vaccines? My vet uses a
killed virus vaccine. I have had her explain this to
me a couple times , because I keep doubting a cat
cannot test pos. after a vaccination...
Well, she finally said, it is antigens that show up in
a pos. FeLV test not, antibodies...
I continue to wonder, because I have heard so many
times from people that believe the vaccination can
skew the FeLV test? Dawn, was it your vet that gave
you that information? I know the FIV vaccination will
make a FIV negative cat show pos. on an FIV test. That
is the biggest reason that the FIV vaccine is not
offered by many clinics...They also say it is really
not that effective?
If some of you better informed people want to chime in
I would be grateful, so once and for all we can get
clear on this...
Thanks, Glenda

--- Dawn Morrison wrote:

 Melissa and everyone,
 Thanks for your input.
 I am still highly concerned that my 4 year old will
 test positive since she would immediately eat the
 wet food that was leftover in the food bowl the
 FeLV+ ate out of and she was not vaccinated at the
 time. Only time will tell I guess, it's going to be
 a long couple of months waiting for the retest.
 
 After the vaccination, I understood that they will
 test positive but not for very long afterwards. Our
 vet suggested having them retested in 6 months, she
 said by then we'll have a better idea if the virus
 has settled in their system.
 
 Yes, I am the one living near Chicago who is looking
 for a home for Bea. Still looking for a home for the
 little one if anyone knows of someone!!
 I am just so uncertain of keeping my positive and
 negatives together, I know no one knows the answer
 and it truly is a hard decision to make. I have
 heard pro and cons from both sides. I think my
 biggest concern is our 4 year old, she likes to play
 bite and Bea still have her claws. 
 
 Thanks
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Re: Transferring the Virus

2007-09-19 Thread glenda Goodman
Linda,
 I suppose he is still testing pos. for FeLV ? It
seems like you are taking excellent care of him and
hopefully he will be perfect one day soon. There
should be some really informed people on this list
getting back to you...Thank you for your
story...Glenda
--- linda gata [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Glenda:
   I happen to have a black  white boy, Oreo. When
 he was tested at 8 weeks old he was negative. Then
 21 days later after his Felv vaccine , Oreo went to
 ER with a fever of 105, letargy, wbc were at 2.5..
 At the clinic they tested him and came back
 positive. I summited another test 4 days later: IFA,
 it came back positive. What I wonder is : is there
 any relation between the FELV vaccine and his
 sickness? Anyhow, he was fine until a few motnhs
 later, and upper respiratory infection, no fever. He
 got treated right away. Now he is clinically fine,
 18 months old big baby boy. But still his wbc are at
 3.5 , borderline. He is on Immunoregulin and daily
 he receives 3 capsules of transfer factor plus on
 his wet food. So far he is fine.
   Maricarmen
 
 glenda Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Dawn,
 I have to wonder why a cat would test pos. after a
 feline leukemia vaccination? I'm wondering if
 different vets use different vaccines? My vet uses a
 killed virus vaccine. I have had her explain this to
 me a couple times , because I keep doubting a cat
 cannot test pos. after a vaccination...
 Well, she finally said, it is antigens that show up
 in
 a pos. FeLV test not, antibodies...
 I continue to wonder, because I have heard so many
 times from people that believe the vaccination can
 skew the FeLV test? Dawn, was it your vet that gave
 you that information? I know the FIV vaccination
 will
 make a FIV negative cat show pos. on an FIV test.
 That
 is the biggest reason that the FIV vaccine is not
 offered by many clinics...They also say it is really
 not that effective?
 If some of you better informed people want to chime
 in
 I would be grateful, so once and for all we can get
 clear on this...
 Thanks, Glenda
 
 --- Dawn Morrison wrote:
 
  Melissa and everyone,
  Thanks for your input.
  I am still highly concerned that my 4 year old
 will
  test positive since she would immediately eat the
  wet food that was leftover in the food bowl the
  FeLV+ ate out of and she was not vaccinated at the
  time. Only time will tell I guess, it's going to
 be
  a long couple of months waiting for the retest.
  
  After the vaccination, I understood that they will
  test positive but not for very long afterwards.
 Our
  vet suggested having them retested in 6 months,
 she
  said by then we'll have a better idea if the virus
  has settled in their system.
  
  Yes, I am the one living near Chicago who is
 looking
  for a home for Bea. Still looking for a home for
 the
  little one if anyone knows of someone!!
  I am just so uncertain of keeping my positive and
  negatives together, I know no one knows the answer
  and it truly is a hard decision to make. I have
  heard pro and cons from both sides. I think my
  biggest concern is our 4 year old, she likes to
 play
  bite and Bea still have her claws. 
  
  Thanks
  Dawn
  
  
  
 


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Re: Transferring the Virus

2007-09-19 Thread catatonya
Have the two other cats ever been tested or vaccinated before?
  tonya

Dawn Morrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hello again everyone,
   
  Before I had Bea tested, she was with my two other catkids (ages 4  10 
years) for 4 days - sharing food (wet  dry), water and liter box. 
  It was only after that 4 days did we realize Bea tested positive (Elisa  IFA)
  We immediately took our other two in and had them tested (negative but too 
early to tell) and vaccinated.
  In anyone's opinion, how great of a chance do you think they will test 
positive in 6 months when I re-test them? Do you think there was enough 
exposure in those 4 days? I am particularly worried about my 4 year old because 
I fed them all wet food and she immediately eats anything that is leftover from 
all 3 bowls.
   
  Also, Bea is now quarantined in a bedroom by herself and I visit with her as 
much as possible when I am home - even sleeping with her at night time to give 
her some human contact (much to my husbands dismay). I wash my hands thoroughly 
when I leave the room and bea has her own bowls/water dishes that I keep 
seperate from my others. She has her own litter box as well. Is it possible to 
spread any of the virus from just walking around the room, transferring it on 
my clothes then walking through the rest of my house? I'm just so concerened 
I'm passing it around more.
   
  Thanks
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RE: Transferring the Virus

2007-09-18 Thread Melissa Lind
Hi Dawn,

 

As far as I know, you cannot transfer it from walking around. It's not that
easy to transfer. I had a FeLV foster cat who stayed in our office room. I
never even washed my hands between petting him and the other cats unless he
drooled on me or something. The virus doesn't live that long. My vet told me
that once it dries (like in saliva), it's dead, so the chances of you
passing anything onto your cats through casual contact is just very small. I
wouldn't even worry about it. My vet's office seemed very unconcerned about
the ability to transfer without bodily fluids transferring. After Cassidy
left (the FeLV kitty), I let the room sit for a day before letting the other
cats back in, but really that was probably unnecessary as well. 

 

I think that's wonderful that you are spending time with Bea in her room.
Poor thing is probably very lonely. I know Cassidy was the same way.
Luckily, I was working at home then (in the home office room where he was),
so he got a lot of attention. However, at night he cried and cried. We had
to put him on kitty Prozac which calmed him down quite a bit without making
him sluggish or drugged. It just decreased his anxiety over being alone at
night when he knew that we were in the room next door.

 

So, overall, I wouldn't stress out about passing it to your other cats. Some
people on this list have mixed their FeLV positives and negatives for many
years without any transfer from shared food and litter boxes. Some on this
list will tell you that they wouldn't have it any other way and that it
really is more difficult to transfer than people think. I, myself, wouldn't
mix unless my cats were quite old (less of a chance of contracting it I've
learned). But, with young kitties in our house, I know if we ever get any
more FeLV fosters, that they will be isolated.

 

I hope this helps. I think the important thing is to relax since Bea and the
others will pick up on your anxiety, and that's not going to be good for Bea
who probably doesn't understand why she has to be alone. I think once you
are more comfortable, then everyone will be too! :-)

 

Best to you and Bea and the other furkids! I hope you find some solutions.
Are you the one in Chicago? I forgot to look at home last night for the
place in Minnesota! I'll try to remember tonight.

 

Melissa

 

 

 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dawn Morrison
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 11:12 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Transferring the Virus

 

Hello again everyone,

 

Before I had Bea tested, she was with my two other catkids (ages 4  10
years) for 4 days - sharing food (wet  dry), water and liter box. 

It was only after that 4 days did we realize Bea tested positive (Elisa 
IFA)

We immediately took our other two in and had them tested (negative but too
early to tell) and vaccinated.

In anyone's opinion, how great of a chance do you think they will test
positive in 6 months when I re-test them? Do you think there was enough
exposure in those 4 days? I am particularly worried about my 4 year old
because I fed them all wet food and she immediately eats anything that is
leftover from all 3 bowls.

 

Also, Bea is now quarantined in a bedroom by herself and I visit with her as
much as possible when I am home - even sleeping with her at night time to
give her some human contact (much to my husbands dismay). I wash my hands
thoroughly when I leave the room and bea has her own bowls/water dishes that
I keep seperate from my others. She has her own litter box as well. Is it
possible to spread any of the virus from just walking around the room,
transferring it on my clothes then walking through the rest of my house? I'm
just so concerened I'm passing it around more.

 

Thanks

Dawn

 

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RE: Transferring the Virus

2007-09-18 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
Dawn, I'm far from the big expert, but I think the chances are almost
nonexistent that you're transferring anything by just walking from room
to room.  The motto for the virus is if it dries, it dies.  It reminds
me of a memorable passage in the book Everything You Always Wanted to
Know About Sex... in which someone asked if you can catch STDs from
toilet seats.  The answer was, yes, under the following circumstances:
someone with an open genital sore (I know, TMI) uses a toilet and
presses the sore against the toilet seat.  Seconds later, you, also with
a sore, use the same toilet and press your sore against the same spot.
Otherwise, no. ;-)  So unless you go from, say, cleaning your FeLV+
kitty's teeth, to your healthy kitties within seconds, with your fingers
still wet with saliva, it's not gonna happen.  Also, somebody correct me
if I'm wrong, but won't the others now automatically test positive
because they have the vaccine in them?  In any case, I'm not sure
there's a real need to segregate Bea from everybody now.  
 
Diane R.
 



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dawn Morrison
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 11:12 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Transferring the Virus


Hello again everyone,
 
Before I had Bea tested, she was with my two other catkids (ages 4  10
years) for 4 days - sharing food (wet  dry), water and liter box. 
It was only after that 4 days did we realize Bea tested positive (Elisa
 IFA)
We immediately took our other two in and had them tested (negative but
too early to tell) and vaccinated.
In anyone's opinion, how great of a chance do you think they will test
positive in 6 months when I re-test them? Do you think there was enough
exposure in those 4 days? I am particularly worried about my 4 year old
because I fed them all wet food and she immediately eats anything that
is leftover from all 3 bowls.
 
Also, Bea is now quarantined in a bedroom by herself and I visit with
her as much as possible when I am home - even sleeping with her at night
time to give her some human contact (much to my husbands dismay). I wash
my hands thoroughly when I leave the room and bea has her own
bowls/water dishes that I keep seperate from my others. She has her own
litter box as well. Is it possible to spread any of the virus from just
walking around the room, transferring it on my clothes then walking
through the rest of my house? I'm just so concerened I'm passing it
around more.
 
Thanks
Dawn



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Re: Transferring the Virus

2007-09-18 Thread Pat Kachur
My vet says that the vaccine is at least 90% effective and I should not worry 
about my one positive kitty living together with the six negatives--all of whom 
are vaccinated and at least 4 years old.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Chris Behnke 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 7:00 PM
  Subject: RE: Transferring the Virus


  My positives and negatives having been living together in the same home 
without separation for 4 years.  So far, no one new has tested positive.  My 
ones that are positive got the virus through heredity, not exposure.

   

  Chris

   

  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rosenfeldt, 
Diane
  Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 12:34 PM
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: RE: Transferring the Virus

   

  Dawn, I'm far from the big expert, but I think the chances are almost 
nonexistent that you're transferring anything by just walking from room to 
room.  The motto for the virus is if it dries, it dies.  It reminds me of a 
memorable passage in the book Everything You Always Wanted to Know About 
Sex... in which someone asked if you can catch STDs from toilet seats.  The 
answer was, yes, under the following circumstances:  someone with an open 
genital sore (I know, TMI) uses a toilet and presses the sore against the 
toilet seat.  Seconds later, you, also with a sore, use the same toilet and 
press your sore against the same spot.  Otherwise, no. ;-)  So unless you go 
from, say, cleaning your FeLV+ kitty's teeth, to your healthy kitties within 
seconds, with your fingers still wet with saliva, it's not gonna happen.  Also, 
somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but won't the others now automatically test 
positive because they have the vaccine in them?  In any case, I'm not sure 
there's a real need to segregate Bea from everybody now.  

   

  Diane R.

   

   


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  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dawn Morrison
  Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 11:12 AM
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Transferring the Virus

  Hello again everyone,

   

  Before I had Bea tested, she was with my two other catkids (ages 4  10 
years) for 4 days - sharing food (wet  dry), water and liter box. 

  It was only after that 4 days did we realize Bea tested positive (Elisa  IFA)

  We immediately took our other two in and had them tested (negative but too 
early to tell) and vaccinated.

  In anyone's opinion, how great of a chance do you think they will test 
positive in 6 months when I re-test them? Do you think there was enough 
exposure in those 4 days? I am particularly worried about my 4 year old because 
I fed them all wet food and she immediately eats anything that is leftover from 
all 3 bowls.

   

  Also, Bea is now quarantined in a bedroom by herself and I visit with her as 
much as possible when I am home - even sleeping with her at night time to give 
her some human contact (much to my husbands dismay). I wash my hands thoroughly 
when I leave the room and bea has her own bowls/water dishes that I keep 
seperate from my others. She has her own litter box as well. Is it possible to 
spread any of the virus from just walking around the room, transferring it on 
my clothes then walking through the rest of my house? I'm just so concerened 
I'm passing it around more.

   

  Thanks

  Dawn

   


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RE: Transferring the Virus

2007-09-18 Thread Chris Behnke
My positives and negatives having been living together in the same home
without separation for 4 years.  So far, no one new has tested positive.  My
ones that are positive got the virus through heredity, not exposure.

 

Chris

 

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rosenfeldt, Diane
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 12:34 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: Transferring the Virus

 

Dawn, I'm far from the big expert, but I think the chances are almost
nonexistent that you're transferring anything by just walking from room to
room.  The motto for the virus is if it dries, it dies.  It reminds me of
a memorable passage in the book Everything You Always Wanted to Know About
Sex... in which someone asked if you can catch STDs from toilet seats.  The
answer was, yes, under the following circumstances:  someone with an open
genital sore (I know, TMI) uses a toilet and presses the sore against the
toilet seat.  Seconds later, you, also with a sore, use the same toilet and
press your sore against the same spot.  Otherwise, no. ;-)  So unless you go
from, say, cleaning your FeLV+ kitty's teeth, to your healthy kitties within
seconds, with your fingers still wet with saliva, it's not gonna happen.
Also, somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but won't the others now
automatically test positive because they have the vaccine in them?  In any
case, I'm not sure there's a real need to segregate Bea from everybody now.


 

Diane R.

 

 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dawn Morrison
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 11:12 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Transferring the Virus

Hello again everyone,

 

Before I had Bea tested, she was with my two other catkids (ages 4  10
years) for 4 days - sharing food (wet  dry), water and liter box. 

It was only after that 4 days did we realize Bea tested positive (Elisa 
IFA)

We immediately took our other two in and had them tested (negative but too
early to tell) and vaccinated.

In anyone's opinion, how great of a chance do you think they will test
positive in 6 months when I re-test them? Do you think there was enough
exposure in those 4 days? I am particularly worried about my 4 year old
because I fed them all wet food and she immediately eats anything that is
leftover from all 3 bowls.

 

Also, Bea is now quarantined in a bedroom by herself and I visit with her as
much as possible when I am home - even sleeping with her at night time to
give her some human contact (much to my husbands dismay). I wash my hands
thoroughly when I leave the room and bea has her own bowls/water dishes that
I keep seperate from my others. She has her own litter box as well. Is it
possible to spread any of the virus from just walking around the room,
transferring it on my clothes then walking through the rest of my house? I'm
just so concerened I'm passing it around more.

 

Thanks

Dawn

 

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