Re: [Felvtalk] Smokey
I got the results back on Smokey today. He has fibrosarcoma. Has anyone had much experience with this type of cancer? Also, I spoke to the vet about the black salve and he said I could try it if I wanted to. I think Natalie was the one that posted about it. I need to find out what I need to do to join the group she spoke about and get some of the black salve. Cindy --- On Wed, 2/8/12, GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote: From: GRAS g...@optonline.net Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Smokey To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, February 8, 2012, 9:41 AM You ask me to invite you to join the 2053 Googlegroup…..Once you are a member, you can look through the archives, see success stories where salve was used on people and animals, get all the info on how to get salve and where to order the herbs to make the tonic (or buy small amount from list owner). It really is miraculous – one man’s arm was saved from amputation, a horse’s eye with cancer saved, many bunny and rat owners are members because those poor little critters get cancers…. You can actually look salve and tonic online, but they are NOT the same and are much more expensive…. If you would use the salve as soon as possible, so it can still seep in through the incision, it would be ideal. It will come back if it had tentacles and it was most likely squamous cell…. I would look for someone who may have a colony of cats that are cared for by someone….the kittens would become tame, though, if given a chance! From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of cindy reasoner Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 8:28 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Smokey I have never heard of this black salve. Does it really help? Where can I get more information on it and the group? I should get the pathology results back in a few days. I have felt a couple of very small knots on other parts of his body so I am afraid it has spread. The vet did take out a couple of lymph nodes too. I just can't get over how big this one was how I could have missed it until now. The vet told me that this one will come back and he was afraid it would be pretty soon. He said there was no reason to try to remove it or any others because they would just come back. I plan on spoiling him for however long he has left. When he seems like his quality of life isn't good anymore then I will let him go. Right now he is eating and playing. He doesn't act like anything is wrong. I am so stressed out right now. I trapped a mom cat and her 2 kittens(although they are about 8 months old) and had them spayed. I found a home for the mom cat but I still have the kittens which are feral and I can't find a home for them. They came from my work so I don't know anything else to do but take them back to work and let them live there me keep feeding them. Does that sound terrible? I just can't keep them. Anybody got any ideas? I won't take them to the shelter because someone told me they would euthanize them if they are feral. Now poor Smokey is sick. Thanks for your prayers and ideas for Smokey. I will let you know what the pathology report says. Cindy --- On Tue, 2/7/12, GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote: From: GRAS g...@optonline.net Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Smokey To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, February 7, 2012, 4:42 PM Would anyone with a cat or dog that has had cancer removed be interested in a black salve that would get to the rest of the tentacles that the vet may not have been able to remove? It’s not expensive, but you would have to join a group where you would get advice from people who have used it and lots of moral support, too. It is for people and animals…there’s also an herbal tonic for cancer, you get the herbs, brew up the tonic, etc. REALLY WORKS! In cases after surgery, the salve would be able to reach the interior through the incisions. Natalie -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Smokey
Cindy, I will send you the invitation to join – I am in México right now, and was having problems with internet connection…will try anyway, OK? All I need is your name and address, and have both. Hope it works from here…. When you become a member, please describe and send your cat’s diagnosis, and everyone will jump right in and help you with suggestions, help, and lots of moral support, etc. I will also send you Pat’s address (keep it handy for the future) and how to order the salve and herbs for the tonic. If the growth is outside, easily accessible, it will work…or the vet may have to make a tiny incision or needle hole so that the salve can seep into the tumor. Natalie =^..^= From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of cindy reasoner Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 12:04 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Smokey I got the results back on Smokey today. He has fibrosarcoma. Has anyone had much experience with this type of cancer? Also, I spoke to the vet about the black salve and he said I could try it if I wanted to. I think Natalie was the one that posted about it. I need to find out what I need to do to join the group she spoke about and get some of the black salve. Cindy --- On Wed, 2/8/12, GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote: From: GRAS g...@optonline.net Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Smokey To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, February 8, 2012, 9:41 AM You ask me to invite you to join the 2053 Googlegroup…..Once you are a member, you can look through the archives, see success stories where salve was used on people and animals, get all the info on how to get salve and where to order the herbs to make the tonic (or buy small amount from list owner). It really is miraculous – one man’s arm was saved from amputation, a horse’s eye with cancer saved, many bunny and rat owners are members because those poor little critters get cancers…. You can actually look salve and tonic online, but they are NOT the same and are much more expensive…. If you would use the salve as soon as possible, so it can still seep in through the incision, it would be ideal. It will come back if it had tentacles and it was most likely squamous cell…. I would look for someone who may have a colony of cats that are cared for by someone….the kittens would become tame, though, if given a chance! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Smokey
I have never heard of this black salve. Does it really help? Where can I get more information on it and the group? I should get the pathology results back in a few days. I have felt a couple of verysmall knots on other parts of his body so I am afraid it has spread. The vet did take out a couple of lymph nodes too. I just can't get over how big this one was how I could have missed it until now. The vet told me that this one will come back and he was afraid it would be pretty soon. He said there was no reason to try to remove it or any others because they would just come back. I plan on spoiling him for however long he has left. When he seems like his quality of life isn't good anymore then I will let him go. Right now he is eating and playing. He doesn't act like anything is wrong. I am so stressed out right now. I trapped a mom cat and her 2 kittens(although they are about 8 months old) and had them spayed. I found a home for the mom cat but I still have the kittens which are feral and I can't find a home for them.They came from my work so I don't know anything else to do but take them back to work and let them live there me keep feeding them. Does that sound terrible? I just can't keep them. Anybody got any ideas? I won't take them to the shelter because someonetold me they would euthanize them if they are feral. Now poor Smokey is sick. Thanks for your prayers and ideas for Smokey. I will let you know what the pathologyreport says. Cindy--- On Tue, 2/7/12, GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote: From: GRAS g...@optonline.netSubject: Re: [Felvtalk] SmokeyTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgDate: Tuesday, February 7, 2012, 4:42 PM Would anyone with a cat or dog that has had cancer removed be interested in a black salve that would get to the rest of the tentacles that the vet may not have been able to remove? It’s not expensive, but you would have to join a group where you would get advice from people who have used it and lots of moral support, too. It is for people and animals…there’s also an herbal tonic for cancer, you get the herbs, brew up the tonic, etc. REALLY WORKS! In cases after surgery, the salve would be able to reach the interior through the incisions. Natalie From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of BethSent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 4:50 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: [Felvtalk] Smokey Cindy - So sorry to hear about Smokey. I have a friend who had this with her dog. She had the 1st tumor removed, but it kept spreading. She just kept him going as long as he was still happy not suffering. Give him lots of love. He has done remarkable living this long with this awful virus. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter!www.Furkids.org From: cindy reasoner reasoner37...@yahoo.comTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2012 4:11 PMSubject: [Felvtalk] Smokey It has been a very long time since I have posted anything. I first found this site when my Smokey tested positive for feline leukemia. He had a hard time at the beginning with fevers but we finally got that under control. He has gone over 6 years with no problems or sickness. The other day I felt a very large knot on his left front leg. I took him to the vet to get it checked out. He thought it was probably cancer. He removed it today but he couldn't get all of it. He described it as having tenticles going in all different directions. He is sending it off to be sure it is cancer and what type. I have never dealt with this before and Smokey's outlook seems pretty grave. Any opinions would be greatly appreciated.Thanks,Cindy___Felvtalk mailing listFelvtalk@felineleukemia.orghttp://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org-Inline Attachment Follows- ___Felvtalk mailing listFelvtalk@felineleukemia.orghttp://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Smokey
You ask me to invite you to join the 2053 Googlegroup…..Once you are a member, you can look through the archives, see success stories where salve was used on people and animals, get all the info on how to get salve and where to order the herbs to make the tonic (or buy small amount from list owner). It really is miraculous – one man’s arm was saved from amputation, a horse’s eye with cancer saved, many bunny and rat owners are members because those poor little critters get cancers…. You can actually look salve and tonic online, but they are NOT the same and are much more expensive…. If you would use the salve as soon as possible, so it can still seep in through the incision, it would be ideal. It will come back if it had tentacles and it was most likely squamous cell…. I would look for someone who may have a colony of cats that are cared for by someone….the kittens would become tame, though, if given a chance! From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of cindy reasoner Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 8:28 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Smokey I have never heard of this black salve. Does it really help? Where can I get more information on it and the group? I should get the pathology results back in a few days. I have felt a couple of very small knots on other parts of his body so I am afraid it has spread. The vet did take out a couple of lymph nodes too. I just can't get over how big this one was how I could have missed it until now. The vet told me that this one will come back and he was afraid it would be pretty soon. He said there was no reason to try to remove it or any others because they would just come back. I plan on spoiling him for however long he has left. When he seems like his quality of life isn't good anymore then I will let him go. Right now he is eating and playing. He doesn't act like anything is wrong. I am so stressed out right now. I trapped a mom cat and her 2 kittens(although they are about 8 months old) and had them spayed. I found a home for the mom cat but I still have the kittens which are feral and I can't find a home for them. They came from my work so I don't know anything else to do but take them back to work and let them live there me keep feeding them. Does that sound terrible? I just can't keep them. Anybody got any ideas? I won't take them to the shelter because someone told me they would euthanize them if they are feral. Now poor Smokey is sick. Thanks for your prayers and ideas for Smokey. I will let you know what the pathology report says. Cindy --- On Tue, 2/7/12, GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote: From: GRAS g...@optonline.net Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Smokey To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, February 7, 2012, 4:42 PM Would anyone with a cat or dog that has had cancer removed be interested in a black salve that would get to the rest of the tentacles that the vet may not have been able to remove? It’s not expensive, but you would have to join a group where you would get advice from people who have used it and lots of moral support, too. It is for people and animals…there’s also an herbal tonic for cancer, you get the herbs, brew up the tonic, etc. REALLY WORKS! In cases after surgery, the salve would be able to reach the interior through the incisions. Natalie _ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] FW: Smokey
I cannot believe that almost all of my e-mails are bouncing back because they’re too big, and I have no way of knowing which ones they are because they don’t tell you – so I am resending, making sure that all previous mail was erased. From: GRAS [mailto:g...@optonline.net] Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 10:41 AM To: 'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org' Subject: RE: [Felvtalk] Smokey You ask me to invite you to join the 2053 Googlegroup…..Once you are a member, you can look through the archives, see success stories where salve was used on people and animals, get all the info on how to get salve and where to order the herbs to make the tonic (or buy small amount from list owner). It really is miraculous – one man’s arm was saved from amputation, a horse’s eye with cancer saved, many bunny and rat owners are members because those poor little critters get cancers…. You can actually look salve and tonic online, but they are NOT the same and are much more expensive…. If you would use the salve as soon as possible, so it can still seep in through the incision, it would be ideal. It will come back if it had tentacles and it was most likely squamous cell…. I would look for someone who may have a colony of cats that are cared for by someone….the kittens would become tame, though, if given a chance! From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of cindy reasoner Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 8:28 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Smokey I have never heard of this black salve. Does it really help? Where can I get more information on it and the group? I should get the pathology results back in a few days. _ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] FW: Smokey
Something’s wrong, this message was in no way 30 KB….(20 is the limit) I am resending without the bottom portion. From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of GRAS Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 10:41 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Smokey You ask me to invite you to join the 2053 Googlegroup…..Once you are a member, you can look through the archives, see success stories where salve was used on people and animals, get all the info on how to get salve and where to order the herbs to make the tonic (or buy small amount from list owner). It really is miraculous – one man’s arm was saved from amputation, a horse’s eye with cancer saved, many bunny and rat owners are members because those poor little critters get cancers…. You can actually look salve and tonic online, but they are NOT the same and are much more expensive…. If you would use the salve as soon as possible, so it can still seep in through the incision, it would be ideal. It will come back if it had tentacles and it was most likely squamous cell…. I would look for someone who may have a colony of cats that are cared for by someone….the kittens would become tame, though, if given a chance! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Smokey
Hi, can you tell me more about the salve and tonic. My FELV- cat Venture just had his foreleg amputated yesterday due to a fast growing tumor (biopsy pending). He has stage 2 CRF. Thanks. Laurie On Tuesday, February 7, 2012, Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com wrote: I'll let Natalie talk to you about this since she has the most experience. It's not something you can get off the shelf in a store. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 19:01:30 -0600 From: dlg...@windstream.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Smokey CC: molvey...@hotmail.com What is the name of the salve and tonic? Would like to have some on hand just in case. Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com wrote: From my limited amount of experience with this black salve and tonic, I would recommend it. I wouldn't hesitate to try it again on any of my animals that had cancer. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 17:42:29 -0500 From: g...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Smokey Would anyone with a cat or dog that has had cancer removed be interested in a black salve that would get to the rest of the tentacles that the vet may not have been able to remove? It’s not expensive, but you would have to join a group where you would get advice from people who have used it and lots of moral support, too. It is for people and animals…there’s also an herbal tonic for cancer, you get the herbs, brew up the tonic, etc. REALLY WORKS! In cases after surgery, the salve would be able to reach the interior through the incisions.Natalie From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 4:50 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Smokey Cindy - So sorry to hear about Smokey. I have a friend who had this with her dog. She had the 1st tumor removed, but it kept spreading. She just kept him going as long as he was still happy not suffering.Give him lots of love. He has done remarkable living this long with this awful virus. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org From: cindy reasoner reasoner37...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2012 4:11 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Smokey It has been a very long time since I have posted anything. I first found this site when my Smokey tested positive for feline leukemia. He had a hard time at the beginning with fevers but we finally got that under control. He has gone over 6 years with no problems or sickness. The other day I felt a very large knot on his left front leg. I took him to the vet to get it checked out. He thought it was probably cancer. He removed it today but he couldn't get all of it. He described it as having tenticles going in all different directions. He is sending it off to be sure it is cancer and what type. I have never dealt with this before and Smokey's outlook seems pretty grave. Any opinions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Cindy ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Smokey
how do I join ths group on google? tried putting in group 2053 and got no results GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote: You ask me to invite you to join the 2053 Googlegroup…..Once you are a member, you can look through the archives, see success stories where salve was used on people and animals, get all the info on how to get salve and where to order the herbs to make the tonic (or buy small amount from list owner). It really is miraculous – one man’s arm was saved from amputation, a horse’s eye with cancer saved, many bunny and rat owners are members because those poor little critters get cancers…. You can actually look salve and tonic online, but they are NOT the same and are much more expensive…. If you would use the salve as soon as possible, so it can still seep in through the incision, it would be ideal. It will come back if it had tentacles and it was most likely squamous cell…. I would look for someone who may have a colony of cats that are cared for by someone….the kittens would become tame, though, if given a chance! From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of cindy reasoner Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 8:28 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Smokey I have never heard of this black salve. Does it really help? Where can I get more information on it and the group? I should get the pathology results back in a few days. I have felt a couple of very small knots on other parts of his body so I am afraid it has spread. The vet did take out a couple of lymph nodes too. I just can't get over how big this one was how I could have missed it until now. The vet told me that this one will come back and he was afraid it would be pretty soon. He said there was no reason to try to remove it or any others because they would just come back. I plan on spoiling him for however long he has left. When he seems like his quality of life isn't good anymore then I will let him go. Right now he is eating and playing. He doesn't act like anything is wrong. I am so stressed out right now. I trapped a mom cat and her 2 kittens(although they are about 8 months old) and had them spayed. I found a home for the mom cat but I still have the kittens which are feral and I can't find a home for them. They came from my work so I don't know anything else to do but take them back to work and let them live there me keep feeding them. Does that sound terrible? I just can't keep them. Anybody got any ideas? I won't take them to the shelter because someone told me they would euthanize them if they are feral. Now poor Smokey is sick. Thanks for your prayers and ideas for Smokey. I will let you know what the pathology report says. Cindy --- On Tue, 2/7/12, GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote: From: GRAS g...@optonline.net Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Smokey To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, February 7, 2012, 4:42 PM Would anyone with a cat or dog that has had cancer removed be interested in a black salve that would get to the rest of the tentacles that the vet may not have been able to remove? It’s not expensive, but you would have to join a group where you would get advice from people who have used it and lots of moral support, too. It is for people and animals…there’s also an herbal tonic for cancer, you get the herbs, brew up the tonic, etc. REALLY WORKS! In cases after surgery, the salve would be able to reach the interior through the incisions. Natalie _ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Smokey
It has been a very long time since I have posted anything. I first found this site when my Smokey tested positive for feline leukemia. He had a hard time at the beginning with fevers but we finally got that under control. He has gone over 6 years with no problems or sickness. The other day I felt a very large knot on his left front leg. I took him to the vet to get it checked out. He thought it was probably cancer. He removed it today but he couldn't get all of it. He described it as having tenticles going in all different directions. He is sending it off to be sure it is cancer and what type. I have never dealt with this before and Smokey's outlook seems pretty grave. Any opinions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Cindy ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Smokey
no opinions, just prayers for Smokey From: cindy reasoner reasoner37...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2012 4:11 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Smokey It has been a very long time since I have posted anything. I first found this site when my Smokey tested positive for feline leukemia. He had a hard time at the beginning with fevers but we finally got that under control. He has gone over 6 years with no problems or sickness. The other day I felt a very large knot on his left front leg. I took him to the vet to get it checked out. He thought it was probably cancer. He removed it today but he couldn't get all of it. He described it as having tenticles going in all different directions. He is sending it off to be sure it is cancer and what type. I have never dealt with this before and Smokey's outlook seems pretty grave. Any opinions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Cindy ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Smokey
Cindy - So sorry to hear about Smokey. I have a friend who had this with her dog. She had the 1st tumor removed, but it kept spreading. She just kept him going as long as he was still happy not suffering. Give him lots of love. He has done remarkable living this long with this awful virus. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org From: cindy reasoner reasoner37...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2012 4:11 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Smokey It has been a very long time since I have posted anything. I first found this site when my Smokey tested positive for feline leukemia. He had a hard time at the beginning with fevers but we finally got that under control. He has gone over 6 years with no problems or sickness. The other day I felt a very large knot on his left front leg. I took him to the vet to get it checked out. He thought it was probably cancer. He removed it today but he couldn't get all of it. He described it as having tenticles going in all different directions. He is sending it off to be sure it is cancer and what type. I have never dealt with this before and Smokey's outlook seems pretty grave. Any opinions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Cindy ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Smokey
If it had tentacles, it could be squamous cell cancer -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of cindy reasoner Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 4:12 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Smokey It has been a very long time since I have posted anything. I first found this site when my Smokey tested positive for feline leukemia. He had a hard time at the beginning with fevers but we finally got that under control. He has gone over 6 years with no problems or sickness. The other day I felt a very large knot on his left front leg. I took him to the vet to get it checked out. He thought it was probably cancer. He removed it today but he couldn't get all of it. He described it as having tenticles going in all different directions. He is sending it off to be sure it is cancer and what type. I have never dealt with this before and Smokey's outlook seems pretty grave. Any opinions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Cindy ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Smokey
Would anyone with a cat or dog that has had cancer removed be interested in a black salve that would get to the rest of the tentacles that the vet may not have been able to remove? It's not expensive, but you would have to join a group where you would get advice from people who have used it and lots of moral support, too. It is for people and animals.there's also an herbal tonic for cancer, you get the herbs, brew up the tonic, etc. REALLY WORKS! In cases after surgery, the salve would be able to reach the interior through the incisions. Natalie From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 4:50 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Smokey Cindy - So sorry to hear about Smokey. I have a friend who had this with her dog. She had the 1st tumor removed, but it kept spreading. She just kept him going as long as he was still happy not suffering. Give him lots of love. He has done remarkable living this long with this awful virus. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter!Image removed by sender. www.Furkids.org http://www.furkids.org/ _ From: cindy reasoner reasoner37...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2012 4:11 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Smokey It has been a very long time since I have posted anything. I first found this site when my Smokey tested positive for feline leukemia. He had a hard time at the beginning with fevers but we finally got that under control. He has gone over 6 years with no problems or sickness. The other day I felt a very large knot on his left front leg. I took him to the vet to get it checked out. He thought it was probably cancer. He removed it today but he couldn't get all of it. He described it as having tenticles going in all different directions. He is sending it off to be sure it is cancer and what type. I have never dealt with this before and Smokey's outlook seems pretty grave. Any opinions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Cindy ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org attachment: ~WRD000.jpg___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Smokey
Depending on how far it has spread and whether it has metatisized, amputating the leg might be an option. Cats and dogs do great on three legs. We had a cat in our rescue recently who had to have her leg removed all the way up like to the hip. They didn't leave a nub or anything. Looked like she had never bee born with a leg. Kind of weird looking but you couldn't tell the difference at all in how she acted and played. Actually she had had some pain in her leg before they removed it so once it was gone then she felt even better and became more playful. Like I said, it may not be possible for various reasons but if the vet says it would work and it's the only thing that would get rid of the cancer then I would go for it. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 13:50:02 -0800 From: create_me_...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Smokey Cindy - So sorry to hear about Smokey. I have a friend who had this with her dog. She had the 1st tumor removed, but it kept spreading. She just kept him going as long as he was still happy not suffering.Give him lots of love. He has done remarkable living this long with this awful virus. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org From: cindy reasoner reasoner37...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2012 4:11 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Smokey It has been a very long time since I have posted anything. I first found this site when my Smokey tested positive for feline leukemia. He had a hard time at the beginning with fevers but we finally got that under control. He has gone over 6 years with no problems or sickness. The other day I felt a very large knot on his left front leg. I took him to the vet to get it checked out. He thought it was probably cancer. He removed it today but he couldn't get all of it. He described it as having tenticles going in all different directions. He is sending it off to be sure it is cancer and what type. I have never dealt with this before and Smokey's outlook seems pretty grave. Any opinions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Cindy ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Smokey
From my limited amount of experience with this black salve and tonic, I would recommend it. I wouldn't hesitate to try it again on any of my animals that had cancer. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 17:42:29 -0500 From: g...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Smokey Would anyone with a cat or dog that has had cancer removed be interested in a black salve that would get to the rest of the tentacles that the vet may not have been able to remove? It’s not expensive, but you would have to join a group where you would get advice from people who have used it and lots of moral support, too. It is for people and animals…there’s also an herbal tonic for cancer, you get the herbs, brew up the tonic, etc. REALLY WORKS! In cases after surgery, the salve would be able to reach the interior through the incisions.Natalie From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 4:50 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Smokey Cindy - So sorry to hear about Smokey. I have a friend who had this with her dog. She had the 1st tumor removed, but it kept spreading. She just kept him going as long as he was still happy not suffering.Give him lots of love. He has done remarkable living this long with this awful virus. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org From: cindy reasoner reasoner37...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2012 4:11 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Smokey It has been a very long time since I have posted anything. I first found this site when my Smokey tested positive for feline leukemia. He had a hard time at the beginning with fevers but we finally got that under control. He has gone over 6 years with no problems or sickness. The other day I felt a very large knot on his left front leg. I took him to the vet to get it checked out. He thought it was probably cancer. He removed it today but he couldn't get all of it. He described it as having tenticles going in all different directions. He is sending it off to be sure it is cancer and what type. I have never dealt with this before and Smokey's outlook seems pretty grave. Any opinions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Cindy ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org attachment: ~WRD000.jpg___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Smokey
What is the name of the salve and tonic? Would like to have some on hand just in case. Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com wrote: From my limited amount of experience with this black salve and tonic, I would recommend it. I wouldn't hesitate to try it again on any of my animals that had cancer. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 17:42:29 -0500 From: g...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Smokey Would anyone with a cat or dog that has had cancer removed be interested in a black salve that would get to the rest of the tentacles that the vet may not have been able to remove? It’s not expensive, but you would have to join a group where you would get advice from people who have used it and lots of moral support, too. It is for people and animals…there’s also an herbal tonic for cancer, you get the herbs, brew up the tonic, etc. REALLY WORKS! In cases after surgery, the salve would be able to reach the interior through the incisions.Natalie From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 4:50 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Smokey Cindy - So sorry to hear about Smokey. I have a friend who had this with her dog. She had the 1st tumor removed, but it kept spreading. She just kept him going as long as he was still happy not suffering.Give him lots of love. He has done remarkable living this long with this awful virus. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org From: cindy reasoner reasoner37...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2012 4:11 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Smokey It has been a very long time since I have posted anything. I first found this site when my Smokey tested positive for feline leukemia. He had a hard time at the beginning with fevers but we finally got that under control. He has gone over 6 years with no problems or sickness. The other day I felt a very large knot on his left front leg. I took him to the vet to get it checked out. He thought it was probably cancer. He removed it today but he couldn't get all of it. He described it as having tenticles going in all different directions. He is sending it off to be sure it is cancer and what type. I have never dealt with this before and Smokey's outlook seems pretty grave. Any opinions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Cindy ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Smokey
I was going to try out Dr. Sam Chachoua's serum when my cat died the day it was being shipped. You can watch his lecture and decide for yourself. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNoT8lb3aIs If yes, I can send you contacts. However, even if you could get a reduced fee through Dr. Sam's foundation, the leg amputation would be a lot less expensive. On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 12:11 PM, cindy reasoner reasoner37...@yahoo.comwrote: It has been a very long time since I have posted anything. I first found this site when my Smokey tested positive for feline leukemia. He had a hard time at the beginning with fevers but we finally got that under control. He has gone over 6 years with no problems or sickness. The other day I felt a very large knot on his left front leg. I took him to the vet to get it checked out. He thought it was probably cancer. He removed it today but he couldn't get all of it. He described it as having tenticles going in all different directions. He is sending it off to be sure it is cancer and what type. I have never dealt with this before and Smokey's outlook seems pretty grave. Any opinions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Cindy ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Go Get a Life---Go Get a Shelter Animal! Ask your local animal pound to start saving over 90% of their intake by implementing the No Kill Equation: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/ Legislate better animal pound conditions: http://www.rescue50.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Smokey
I'll let Natalie talk to you about this since she has the most experience. It's not something you can get off the shelf in a store. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 19:01:30 -0600 From: dlg...@windstream.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Smokey CC: molvey...@hotmail.com What is the name of the salve and tonic? Would like to have some on hand just in case. Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com wrote: From my limited amount of experience with this black salve and tonic, I would recommend it. I wouldn't hesitate to try it again on any of my animals that had cancer. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 17:42:29 -0500 From: g...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Smokey Would anyone with a cat or dog that has had cancer removed be interested in a black salve that would get to the rest of the tentacles that the vet may not have been able to remove? It’s not expensive, but you would have to join a group where you would get advice from people who have used it and lots of moral support, too. It is for people and animals…there’s also an herbal tonic for cancer, you get the herbs, brew up the tonic, etc. REALLY WORKS! In cases after surgery, the salve would be able to reach the interior through the incisions.Natalie From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 4:50 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Smokey Cindy - So sorry to hear about Smokey. I have a friend who had this with her dog. She had the 1st tumor removed, but it kept spreading. She just kept him going as long as he was still happy not suffering.Give him lots of love. He has done remarkable living this long with this awful virus. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org From: cindy reasoner reasoner37...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2012 4:11 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Smokey It has been a very long time since I have posted anything. I first found this site when my Smokey tested positive for feline leukemia. He had a hard time at the beginning with fevers but we finally got that under control. He has gone over 6 years with no problems or sickness. The other day I felt a very large knot on his left front leg. I took him to the vet to get it checked out. He thought it was probably cancer. He removed it today but he couldn't get all of it. He described it as having tenticles going in all different directions. He is sending it off to be sure it is cancer and what type. I have never dealt with this before and Smokey's outlook seems pretty grave. Any opinions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Cindy ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Smokey (was RE: Melina Please add to the CLS :(
Kathryn, I am so sorry about Smokey. I know how much you wanted him to make it. Don't reproach yourself too much (I know you have to a little, 20-20 hindsight is what we humans do best) for causing him pain trying to take care of the mouth sores. You were doing what you could to be a good mom, and we often have to do things they don't like for their own good. Gentlest of Bridge vibes to Smokey. I know he knows how much you loved him, and maybe he will guide you to another kitty who needs you. Brava for wanting to find one who's been passed by, I always worry about the older ones who aren't kitten-cute anymore. Hugs. Diane R. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 9:04 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Melina Please add to the CLS :( I am so sorry to have to write this. We lost our sweet little Smokey cat. When I took him to my vet before we left on vacation she told us that the sores in his mouth were caused from the virus and that he was suffering. She said there wasn't anything that could be done. I just couldn't believe it because I really thought he was doing so much better and that the sores were from herpes, which I explained to her. She said no, sometimes these sores are caused from the decease and that he was in great pain. Every time I think about the times that I cleaned his little mouth it breaks my heart because I now know how much I was hurting him. I was as gentle as I could be but I thought I needed to keep the sores doctored and I really didn't realize how much pain he was in. Stupid me, I thought I was helping him and that he was getting better. After some time goes by, I plan on going to a rescue facility and adopting a cat. I will try to get a little cat that has been passed by, maybe a little older one, I don't really know, I figure I will know when I see him/her. Thank you for all the information and support. You all were a great source of information and support. Sincerely, Kathryn This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Smokey was Re: Melina Please add to the CLS :(
Kathryn, you were doing your best to help Smokey not being stupid. All we can
do is try our best. Smokey knew you loved him and cared for him. Depending on
the cause many mouth ulcers can be treated.
Sharyl Sissy Rocket and Daisy's babies
--- On Tue, 7/15/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Melina Please add to the CLS :(
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Tuesday, July 15, 2008, 10:03 AM
I am so sorry to have to write this. We lost our sweet little Smokey cat. When
I took him to my vet before we left on vacation she told us that the sores in
his mouth were caused from the virus and that he was suffering. She said there
wasn't anything that could be done. I just couldn't believe it because I
really thought he was doing so much better and that the sores were from herpes,
which I explained to her. She said no, sometimes these sores are caused from
the decease and that he was in great pain. Every time I think about the times
that I cleaned his little mouth it breaks my heart because I now know how much
I was hurting him. I was as gentle as I could be but I thought I needed to keep
the sores doctored and I really didn't realize how much pain he was in. Stupid
me, I thought I was helping him and that he was getting better.
After some time goes by, I plan on going to a rescue facility and adopting a
cat. I will try to get a little cat that has been passed by, maybe a little
older one, I don't really know, I figure I will know when I see him/her. Thank
you for all the information and support. You all were a great source of
information and support.
Sincerely,
Kathryn
-Original Message-
From: Sharyl [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 7:07 am
Subject: Re: Melina Please add to the CLS :(
Kathryn, you can buy it as a pill from a drug store and maybe in a capsule. I
started with 500 mg caplets and they were tough to crush. I ended up buying
the powder from iHerbs.
http://www.iherb.com/Search.aspx?c=1st=lkw=L-Lysine
Much easier to work with. I dissolve it in a little water, mix with food and
feed it to mine.
Sharyl
--- On Tue, 7/8/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Melina Please add to the CLS :(
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Tuesday, July 8, 2008, 6:12 PM
It occurred to me last night that I did not take the time to properly say my
condolences for the lost kittys such as Melina. It saddens me whenever a little
animal leaves us and my thoughts are sincerely with their owners. I've been
kind of preoccupied with Smokey. I really understand how these guys can effect
you, I think it's because they are so innocent and, like Smokey, are so
trusting. Every time I go to pet him, which is a lot, he purrs, even though
he's not feeling great.
I will be gone for six days on a previously planned vacation, (bad timing, I
know). However, he will be staying with my vet, I'm really hoping that she can
get his ulcers cleared up. I absolutely will get him on lysine. Just one more
question if you all don't mind: Do I get it in liquid form or is it a powder?
I'll email when I return to give an update. Can you send pictures on this site?
If so and if it's appropriate, I can send a picture of Smokey.
Thanks, again,
Kathryn
-Original Message-
From: Sherry DeHaan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 8:10 pm
Subject: Re: Melina Please add to the CLS :(
Wendy I am doing ok.Thanks for your concern.I really had the urge NOT to go to
Sids tonight.But my heart dragged me there as usual.Not the same without Melina
there.She was the first one I would look for and then I would carry her around
and do the cat check head count.I fell for that baby girl the second I laid
eyes on her.
Also keep Jaws in your prayers,he is not doing so well.Another one that wins
over your heart as soon as you meet him.
Thanks so much,
Sherry
--- On Mon, 7/7/08, wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Melina Please add to the CLS :(
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Monday, July 7, 2008, 10:47 AM
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Sherry,
How are you today? I hope you're doing better. I'm sorry about Melina.
:)
Wendy
Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change
the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade
~~~
- Original Message
From: Sherry DeHaan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thursday, July 3, 2008 9:44:02 PM
Subject: Melina Please add to the CLS :(
First of all I want to thank all of you for your prayers and good thoughts for
this beautiful baby.The aweful
Re: [Felvtalk] Smokey (was RE: Melina Please add to the CLS :(
Kathryn I am so sorry you lost your sweet Smokey.Hugs to you. Sherry --- On Tue, 7/15/08, Rosenfeldt, Diane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Rosenfeldt, Diane [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Felvtalk] Smokey (was RE: Melina Please add to the CLS :( To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, July 15, 2008, 10:12 AM Kathryn, I am so sorry about Smokey. I know how much you wanted him to make it. Don't reproach yourself too much (I know you have to a little, 20-20 hindsight is what we humans do best) for causing him pain trying to take care of the mouth sores. You were doing what you could to be a good mom, and we often have to do things they don't like for their own good. Gentlest of Bridge vibes to Smokey. I know he knows how much you loved him, and maybe he will guide you to another kitty who needs you. Brava for wanting to find one who's been passed by, I always worry about the older ones who aren't kitten-cute anymore. Hugs. Diane R. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 9:04 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Melina Please add to the CLS :( I am so sorry to have to write this. We lost our sweet little Smokey cat. When I took him to my vet before we left on vacation she told us that the sores in his mouth were caused from the virus and that he was suffering. She said there wasn't anything that could be done. I just couldn't believe it because I really thought he was doing so much better and that the sores were from herpes, which I explained to her. She said no, sometimes these sores are caused from the decease and that he was in great pain. Every time I think about the times that I cleaned his little mouth it breaks my heart because I now know how much I was hurting him. I was as gentle as I could be but I thought I needed to keep the sores doctored and I really didn't realize how much pain he was in. Stupid me, I thought I was helping him and that he was getting better. After some time goes by, I plan on going to a rescue facility and adopting a cat. I will try to get a little cat that has been passed by, maybe a little older one, I don't really know, I figure I will know when I see him/her. Thank you for all the information and support. You all were a great source of information and support. Sincerely, Kathryn This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Kathryn what Smokey is going through sounds totally like the feline herpes virus, not really related to the leukemia problem. It of course can affect animals with a comprimised immune system and stress is the biggest contributor. If he is recovering nicely from this then I would think there is great hope for him. I thought once a cat had herpes they weren't immunized against it but I was wrong. My little girl got her shot before she was turned over to us and after she recovered from her health problems. I don't honestly know if they give this to Felv positive cats as mine didn't live long enough to find out. I guess it's like a flu shot and may lessen the severity of an outbreak. I know what you're going through, the highs and the lows. It can be a totally exhausting experience emotionally. As for emergency vets I can only speak of the one we had to go to on two occasions and in both instances we came home without our cats. I don't trust them but sometimes you have no choice. Keep us updated on Snokey's health. I think we all feel we have a stake in each and everyone of these little guys. Lynne - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 10:10 AM Subject: Re: Smokey update Hi Everyone, I had a real scare with Smokey over the weekend. I thought I was loosing him and I didn't even know if an emergency vet would treat him because of his disease. Do they?The good news is that I didn't need to find out, he's snapped out of it. I've been treating him for an upper respiratory problem and an eye infection. He also has ulcers on his mouth, poor boy! The little cat is a wreck, but he appears to have turned the corner. As of today, his mouth is healing, his eye isn't running and his breathing is nor mal. I do not want to get my hopes up too much, but I sure do want the little boy to stay with me. I can't believe how many tears I have shed for a little guy I've known less then two weeks. He's just so sweet. Is it normal for them to snap back so quickly? Is this a good sign that he might live a while? My vet says that he could live a few years and has even emailed me outdoor enclosures to look at. He was a stray and longs to be outside, so it would be nice for him to go outside once in a while. I really appreciate this site. It's wonderful to hear from people who know about this and also who understand. As with my horse, (he's a rescue, too) most of my friends think I am nuts for taking on this little cat. Thank you for listening, Kathryn -Original Message- From: catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 7:33 am Subject: Re: Welcome, Kathryn I didn't get your original email Kathryn. Welcome to ghe group. Is your cat showing any symptoms? How old is he? tonya Diane Rosenfeldt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You've come to a great place for information and support. Others have much more experience with these babies, but I can tell you that diet and stress control are paramount. If you can give your new guy (what's his name?) the best food possible and keep him as happy as possible, that's a great first step. You can also supplement his diet with L-lysine (from natural food stores, without the addit ives found in the kind you find in most drugstores, which is toxic to cats). Make sure your vet is knowledgeable on FeLV -- if he/she didn't immediately suggest euthanasia, that's a good sign. If he/she isn't, look around for one who is. Some people here like holistic vets, if there are some in your area, in addition to their regular vet. There's no way to know how long any of them will last. Some people here have kitties who have lived long and well with FeLV, and then there are some (like my Patches, who came to me as a stray, too, who only stayed with me six weeks.) What's important is to enjoy him every minute he's with you, fight the good fight together, but know when it's time to let go. Not easy, but doable. Go od luck with your guy. Diane R. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2008 9:50 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Melina Please add to the CLS :( I am very sorry to hear of the passing of Melina. I am new to this site and really know nothing of this terrible disease. I have recently (just bringing him home from the vets today) adopted the sweetest little boy who sadly has this virus. He showed up a few days ago as a stray. My husband and I fell in love with him and took him to the vet for shots, etc. Sadly, we were informed that he has tested positive. I really do not know what this means. Any information will be greatly appreciated. I especially would like to know what I can
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It sounds like herpes. The lysine would really help with that. t [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Everyone, I had a real scare with Smokey over the weekend. I thought I was loosing him and I didn't even know if an emergency vet would treat him because of his disease. Do they?The good news is that I didn't need to find out, he's snapped out of it. I've been treating him for an upper respiratory problem and an eye infection. He also has ulcers on his mouth, poor boy! The little cat is a wreck, but he appears to have turned the corner. As of today, his mouth is healing, his eye isn't running and his breathing is normal. I do not want to get my hopes up too much, but I sure do want the little boy to stay with me. I can't believe how many tears I have shed for a little guy I've known less then two weeks. He's just so sweet. Is it normal for them to snap back so quickly? Is this a good sign that he might live a while? My vet says that he could live a few years and has even emailed me outdoor enclosures to look at. He was a stray and longs to be outside, so it would be nice for him to go outside once in a while. I really appreciate this site. It's wonderful to hear from people who know about this and also who understand. As with my horse, (he's a rescue, too) most of my friends think I am nuts for taking on this little cat. Thank you for listening, Kathryn -Original Message- From: catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 7:33 am Subject: Re: Welcome, Kathryn I didn't get your original email Kathryn. Welcome to ghe group. Is your cat showing any symptoms? How old is he? tonya Diane Rosenfeldt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You've come to a great place for information and support. Others have much more experience with these babies, but I can tell you that diet and stress control are paramount. If you can give your new guy (what's his name?) the best food possible and keep him as happy as possible, that's a great first step. You can also supplement his diet with L-lysine (from natural food stores, without the additives found in the kind you find in most drugstores, which is toxic to cats). Make sure your vet is knowledgeable on FeLV -- if he/she didn't immediately suggest euthanasia, that's a good sign. If he/she isn't, look around for one who is. Some people here like holistic vets, if there are some in your area, in addition to their regular vet. There's no way to know how long any of them will last. Some people here have kitties who have lived long and well with FeLV, and then there are some (like my Patches, who came to me as a stray, too, who only stayed with me six weeks.) What's important is to enjoy him every minute he's with you, fight the good fight together, but know when it's time to let go. Not easy, but doable. Good luck with your guy. Diane R. - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2008 9:50 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Melina Please add to the CLS :( I am very sorry to hear of the passing of Melina. I am new to this site and really know nothing of this terrible disease. I have recently (just bringing him home from the vets today) adopted the sweetest little boy who sadly has this virus. He showed up a few days ago as a stray. My husband and I fell in love with him and took him to the vet for shots, etc. Sadly, we were informed that he has tested positive. I really do not know what this means. Any information will be greatly appreciated. I especially would like to know what I can do to keep him well for as long as possible. The vet suggests Vitamin C. Any information will be greatly appreciated. Sincerely, Kathryn -Original Message- From: Lynne [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 8:20 pm Subject: Re: Melina Please add to the CLS :( I'm so saddened Sherry that Melina couldn't rally yet another time. My heart honestly aches everytime I hear of another passing. It sometimes makes one wonder just how much a body can endure. But I guess the courage and trusting nature of these dear creatures makes it possible to go on. Lynne - Original Message - From: Sherry DeHaan To: Felvtalk Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 10:44 PM Subject: Melina Please add to the CLS :( First of all I want to thank all of you for your prayers and good thoughts for this beautiful baby.The aweful disease was way too much for her this time.She was a VERY spunky little girl.My heart aches without her in my life.I need to keep telling myself that I gave her so much love that she was happy until the end.I will miss her little loving head butts and rubbing her sweet face on mine.Ok now the tears are coming out. :( Once again thank you all so much for having to listen
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Hi Everyone, I had a real scare with Smokey over the weekend. I thought I was loosing him and I didn't even know if an emergency vet would treat him because of his disease. Do they?The good news is that I didn't need to find out, he's snapped out of it. I've been treating him for an upper respiratory problem and an eye infection. He also has ulcers on his mouth, poor boy! The little cat is a wreck, but he appears to have turned the corner. As of today, his mouth is healing, his eye isn't running and his breathing is normal. I do not want to get my hopes up too much, but I sure do want the little boy to stay with me. I can't believe how many tears I have shed for a little guy I've known less then two weeks. He's just so sweet. Is it normal for them to snap back so quickly? Is this a good sign that he might live a while? My vet says that he could live a few years and has even emailed me outdoor enclosures to look at. He was a stray and longs to be outside, so it would be nice for him to go outside once in a while. I really appreciate this site. It's wonderful to hear from people who know about this and also who understand. As with my horse, (he's a rescue, too)?most of my friends think I am nuts for taking on this little cat. Thank you for listening, Kathryn -Original Message- From: catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 7:33 am Subject: Re: Welcome, Kathryn I didn't get your original email Kathryn.? Welcome to ghe group.? Is your cat showing any symptoms? How old is he? tonya Diane Rosenfeldt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You've come to a great place for information and support.? Others have much more experience with these babies, but I can tell you that diet and stress control are paramount.? If you can give your new guy (what's his name?) the best food possible and keep him as happy as possible, that's a great first step.? You can also supplement his diet with L-lysine (from natural food stores, without the additives found in the kind you find in most drugstores, which is toxic to cats).? Make sure your vet is knowledgeable on FeLV -- if he/she didn't immediately suggest euthanasia, that's a good sign.? If he/she isn't, look around for one who is.? Some people here like holistic vets, if there are some in your area, in addition to their regular vet.? ? There's no way to know how long any of them will last.? Some people here have kitties who have lived long and well with FeLV, and then there are some (like my Patches, who came to me as a stray, too,?who only stayed with me six weeks.)? What's important is to enjoy him every minute he's with you, fight the good fight together, but know when it's time to let go.? Not easy, but doable.? Good luck with your guy. ? Diane R. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2008 9:50 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Melina Please add to the CLS :( I am very sorry to hear of the passing of Melina. I am new to this site and really know nothing of this terrible disease. I have recently (just bringing him home from the vets today) adopted the sweetest little boy who sadly has this virus. He showed up a few days ago as a stray. My husband and I fell in love with him and took him to the vet for shots, etc. Sadly, we were informed that he has tested positive. ? I really do not know what this means. Any information will be greatly appreciated. I especially would like to know what I can do to keep him well for as long as possible. The vet suggests Vitamin C. Any information will be greatly appreciated. Sincerely, Kathryn -Original Message- From: Lynne [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 8:20 pm Subject: Re: Melina Please add to the CLS :( I'm so saddened Sherry that Melina couldn't rally yet another time.? My heart honestly aches everytime I hear of another passing.? It sometimes makes one wonder just how much a body can endure.? But I guess the courage and trusting nature of these dear creatures makes it possible to go on. ? Lynne - Original Message - From: Sherry DeHaan To: Felvtalk Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 10:44 PM Subject: Melina Please add to the CLS :( First of all I want to thank all of you for your prayers and good thoughts for this beautiful baby.The aweful disease was way too much for her this time.She was a VERY spunky little girl.My heart aches without her in my life.I need to keep telling myself that I gave her so much love that she was happy until the end.I will miss her little loving head butts and rubbing her sweet face on mine.Ok now the tears are coming out. :( Once again thank you all so much for having to listen to all my sadness.But I also get ALOT of goodness out of these creatures. Sherry ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk
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Wow, Kathryn...what a rough weekend-for the both of you! It sounds like it took a while for the antibiotic to kick in for him...and that can make us completely frantic with worry, I know! I am still learning a lot about the disease process...but it sounds like he might get through this episode alright. I agree that getting him outside would be therapeuticthose enclosures are So expensive, thoughperhaps someone here has another idea? Good luck with your little guy...it's gonna be a rough ride, and your heart will be broken in the end...but you are doing a wonderful thing!Debbie (COL)You gotta bloom where you're planted! To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: Smokey updateDate: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 10:10:11 -0400From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Everyone,I had a real scare with Smokey over the weekend. I thought I was loosing him and I didn't even know if an emergency vet would treat him because of his disease. Do they?The good news is that I didn't need to find out, he's snapped out of it. I've been treating him for an upper respiratory problem and an eye infection. He also has ulcers on his mouth, poor boy! The little cat is a wreck, but he appears to have turned the corner. As of today, his mouth is healing, his eye isn't running and his breathing is normal. I do not want to get my hopes up too much, but I sure do want the little boy to stay with me. I can't believe how many tears I have shed for a little guy I've known less then two weeks. He's just so sweet.Is it normal for them to snap back so quickly? Is this a good sign that he might live a while? My vet says that he could live a few years and has even emailed me outdoor enclosures to look at. He was a stray and longs to be outside, so it would be nice for him to go outside once in a while.I really appreciate this site. It's wonderful to hear from people who know about this and also who understand. As with my horse, (he's a rescue, too) most of my friends think I am nuts for taking on this little cat. Thank you for listening,Kathryn-Original Message-From: catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 7:33 amSubject: Re: Welcome, Kathryn I didn't get your original email Kathryn. Welcome to ghe group. Is your cat showing any symptoms? How old is he? tonyaDiane Rosenfeldt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You've come to a great place for information and support. Others have much more experience with these babies, but I can tell you that diet and stress control are paramount. If you can give your new guy (what's his name?) the best food possible and keep him as happy as possible, that's a great first step. You can also supplement his diet with L-lysine (from natural food stores, without the additives found in the kind you find in most drugstores, which is toxic to cats). Make sure your vet is knowledgeable on FeLV -- if he/she didn't immediately suggest euthanasia, that's a good sign. If he/she isn't, look around for one who is. Some people here like holistic vets, if there are some in your area, in addition to their regular vet. There's no way to know how long any of them will last. Some people here have kitties who have lived long and well with FeLV, and then there are some (like my Patches, who came to me as a stray, too, who only stayed with me six weeks.) What's important is to enjoy him every minute he's with you, fight the good fight together, but know when it's time to let go. Not easy, but doable. Good luck with your guy. Diane R. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Saturday, July 05, 2008 9:50 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: Melina Please add to the CLS :( I am very sorry to hear of the passing of Melina. I am new to this site and really know nothing of this terrible disease. I have recently (just bringing him home from the vets today) adopted the sweetest little boy who sadly has this virus. He showed up a few days ago as a stray. My husband and I fell in love with him and took him to the vet for shots, etc. Sadly, we were informed that he has tested positive. I really do not know what this means. Any information will be greatly appreciated. I especially would like to know what I can do to keep him well for as long as possible. The vet suggests Vitamin C. Any information will be greatly appreciated.Sincerely,Kathryn-Original Message-From: Lynne [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 8:20 pmSubject: Re: Melina Please add to the CLS :( I'm so saddened Sherry that Melina couldn't rally yet another time. My heart honestly aches everytime I hear of another passing. It sometimes makes one wonder just how much a body can endure. But I guess the courage and trusting nature of these dear creatures makes it possible to go on. Lynne - Original Message - From: Sherry DeHaan To: Felvtalk Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 10:44 PM Subject: Melina Please add to the CLS :( First
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Any responsible vet will treat an FeLV+ kitty. One of the first things to know about this virus is that it isn't nearly as casually contagious as was first thought, though it is more readily transmittable than the other bugaboo, FIV. Unless the cat is in a position to bite other cats, or is sharing food and water with them, which is not likely in an emergency-vet situation, it's not readily transmittable. And as some on this list will attest, from letting their + kitties mingle with their negatives, even the food and drink isn't necessarily a problem. My Patches escaped his temporary confinement -- he was a 3 a.m. rescue, we lured him into our back hall, fed him, left him there blocked from the rest of the house by a 7-foot screen door, and went back to sleep...at 6 a.m. woke up to find him in our FRONT porch room 50 feet from where we'd left him, having a conversation with one of our other cats! He'd had 3 hours to get over or under that door, wander the length of the house and interact with all the cats, and partake of their grazing crunchies and water. He died 6 weeks later, but none of the others have shown a single symptom. If he had lived, we would have had the others vaccinated as an extra precaution, and let him hang out with them. As it was, we had to keep him in a room by himself while he was sick, and he really wanted to join us all, he was such a sociable little guy. That was really hard. At least we were able to give him some comfort -- when he came, he had such huge, severe mats of fur on his sides that they looked like wings. They must have hurt him horribly, he wouldn't let you touch him past his shoulders. He came to us over a 4th of July long weekend so it was a few days before we could get him to the vet, and we were able to get some of the matting off him by me distracting him and my housemate snipping at the mats practically one strand of fur at a time. (A few months later, cleaning behind some furniture in the porch room, we found another piece of wing that he must have rubbed off himself on the furniture.) He was also filthy, and we would pet him with damp cloths wherever he'd let us, and he cleaned up into a lovely Turkish Van. Thankfully, our vets, who don't usually do extensive grooming like this, took pity and were able to clean him up and deflea him during his exam. After that he loved being petted all over. We would gladly have kneecapped whoever left him out on his own to get into this condition, even if he had been FeLV negative! We had already socialized a near-feral cat, and it had taken months. This guy was immediately friendly and had obviously been someone's pet. Oops, I digressed a little there! But the point is that no knowledgeable vet would refuse to treat a cat on the basis of its FeLV status. It's so good that your regular vet is being so supportive. It can be really disheartening to have to look for a new vet on top of everything else. Diane R. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 9:10 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Smokey update Hi Everyone, I had a real scare with Smokey over the weekend. I thought I was loosing him and I didn't even know if an emergency vet would treat him because of his disease. Do they?The good news is that I didn't need to find out, he's snapped out of it. I've been treating him for an upper respiratory problem and an eye infection. He also has ulcers on his mouth, poor boy! The little cat is a wreck, but he appears to have turned the corner. As of today, his mouth is healing, his eye isn't running and his breathing is normal. I do not want to get my hopes up too much, but I sure do want the little boy to stay with me. I can't believe how many tears I have shed for a little guy I've known less then two weeks. He's just so sweet. Is it normal for them to snap back so quickly? Is this a good sign that he might live a while? My vet says that he could live a few years and has even emailed me outdoor enclosures to look at. He was a stray and longs to be outside, so it would be nice for him to go outside once in a while. I really appreciate this site. It's wonderful to hear from people who know about this and also who understand. As with my horse, (he's a rescue, too) most of my friends think I am nuts for taking on this little cat. Thank you for listening, Kathryn -Original Message- From: catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 7:33 am Subject: Re: Welcome, Kathryn I didn't get your original email Kathryn. Welcome to ghe group. Is your cat showing any symptoms? How old is he? tonya Diane Rosenfeldt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You've come to a great place for information and support. Others have much more experience with these babies, but I can tell you that diet and stress control are paramount. If you can give your new guy
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Ebony was an adult feral when he moved in with me. I bought a 6x6x12 chain link dog kennel, put a top (very securely) on it and attached it to the house by way of a bathroom window. He went thru a dog/cat door into duct work then onto a landing and into the kennel. He loved it all his days, had free access except when I blocked the door for some reason (really bad weather etc), and was safe. Good luck. I am glad Smokey rebounded. The emergency vets I know do treat FeLV+ cats. On Jul 7, 2008, at 9:10 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Everyone, I had a real scare with Smokey over the weekend. I thought I was loosing him and I didn't even know if an emergency vet would treat him because of his disease. Do they?The good news is that I didn't need to find out, he's snapped out of it. I've been treating him for an upper respiratory problem and an eye infection. He also has ulcers on his mouth, poor boy! The little cat is a wreck, but he appears to have turned the corner. As of today, his mouth is healing, his eye isn't running and his breathing is normal. I do not want to get my hopes up too much, but I sure do want the little boy to stay with me. I can't believe how many tears I have shed for a little guy I've known less then two weeks. He's just so sweet. Is it normal for them to snap back so quickly? Is this a good sign that he might live a while? My vet says that he could live a few years and has even emailed me outdoor enclosures to look at. He was a stray and longs to be outside, so it would be nice for him to go outside once in a while. I really appreciate this site. It's wonderful to hear from people who know about this and also who understand. As with my horse, (he's a rescue, too) most of my friends think I am nuts for taking on this little cat. Thank you for listening, Kathryn -Original Message- From: catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 7:33 am Subject: Re: Welcome, Kathryn I didn't get your original email Kathryn. Welcome to ghe group. Is your cat showing any symptoms? How old is he? tonya Diane Rosenfeldt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You've come to a great place for information and support. Others have much more experience with these babies, but I can tell you that diet and stress control are paramount. If you can give your new guy (what's his name?) the best food possible and keep him as happy as possible, that's a great first step. You can also supplement his diet with L-lysine (from natural food stores, without the additives found in the kind you find in most drugstores, which is toxic to cats). Make sure your vet is knowledgeable on FeLV -- if he/she didn't immediately suggest euthanasia, that's a good sign. If he/ she isn't, look around for one who is. Some people here like holistic vets, if there are some in your area, in addition to their regular vet. There's no way to know how long any of them will last. Some people here have kitties who have lived long and well with FeLV, and then there are some (like my Patches, who came to me as a stray, too, who only stayed with me six weeks.) What's important is to enjoy him every minute he's with you, fight the good fight together, but know when it's time to let go. Not easy, but doable. Good luck with your guy. Diane R. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2008 9:50 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Melina Please add to the CLS :( I am very sorry to hear of the passing of Melina. I am new to this site and really know nothing of this terrible disease. I have recently (just bringing him home from the vets today) adopted the sweetest little boy who sadly has this virus. He showed up a few days ago as a stray. My husband and I fell in love with him and took him to the vet for shots, etc. Sadly, we were informed that he has tested positive. I really do not know what this means. Any information will be greatly appreciated. I especially would like to know what I can do to keep him well for as long as possible. The vet suggests Vitamin C. Any information will be greatly appreciated. Sincerely, Kathryn -Original Message- From: Lynne [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 8:20 pm Subject: Re: Melina Please add to the CLS :( I'm so saddened Sherry that Melina couldn't rally yet another time. My heart honestly aches everytime I hear of another passing. It sometimes makes one wonder just how much a body can endure. But I guess the courage and trusting nature of these dear creatures makes it possible to go on. Lynne - Original Message - From: Sherry DeHaan To: Felvtalk Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 10:44 PM Subject: Melina Please add to the CLS :( First of all I want to thank all of you for your prayers and good thoughts
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Thanks, Tonya. I have a lot of cats...have lost 4 this year. It's never easy. There are some though, that you have a very special place in your heart for. Smokey was one of these. A short time after Smokey died, my husband's favorite friend, Moon died unexpectedly from a pancreatic tumor. These were 2 of the guys that slept right next to us. David said when he crosses over, he wants to see his dad, and then Moon and the other guys next!!! This from a guy it took me 20 yers to convert to CAT!! Take care, Dede --- catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DeDe, I'm so sorry to read about Smokey. :( tonya I told you a bit about Smokey. The morning he died, he woke me up as usual nuzling my ear and purring. I will never forget that, ever. We too, had just had the aspiration done, but he wasn't eating and it was so hard for him to breathe at times. We went through the same thing at the vet. It seemed the more we did the aspirations, the quicker the fluid came back. After he died, the vet looked into his chest. One lung was collapsed, and he was full of tumors. He had to have been unconfortable, and it was time. Cats are such noble and unselfish beings. You never really know how sick they are until they have no more to give. Console yourself with the fact that Boo was really happy until just before the end, and he knew true love and devotion from you both. Not many cats on this planet can claim that. God bless you both, and don't worry about BooBoo. He is fine, happy and healthy, and waiting for you. Dede --- Lynne wrote: We lost our precious baby tonight. He developed difficulty breathing and we rushed him to the emergency clinic. He was dehydrated and had just had his lungs aspirated Friday. The vet recently experienced the same situation with his Himilayan, co-incidentally, though I sometimes think they make stuff up to identify with your pain. I held his little face in my hand and petted him as did Bob and he slipped away almost immediately. I don't think I've cried this much in my life, Bob too. At this moment I can't imagine ever being happy again. Sounds stupid but BooBoo conveyed to me this evening it was time to go and he thanked us. He was so very weak he could hardly walk but he was still purring as we pet him even with the damn catheter in. We know this was best for him but the worst for us. Thank you all for being so very supportive. Lynne When you are in the service of your fellow beings, you are only in the service of your God Mosiah 2:17 Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping When you are in the service of your fellow beings, you are only in the service of your God Mosiah 2:17 Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
Smokey
DeDe, I'm so sorry to read about Smokey. :( tonya I told you a bit about Smokey. The morning he died, he woke me up as usual nuzling my ear and purring. I will never forget that, ever. We too, had just had the aspiration done, but he wasn't eating and it was so hard for him to breathe at times. We went through the same thing at the vet. It seemed the more we did the aspirations, the quicker the fluid came back. After he died, the vet looked into his chest. One lung was collapsed, and he was full of tumors. He had to have been unconfortable, and it was time. Cats are such noble and unselfish beings. You never really know how sick they are until they have no more to give. Console yourself with the fact that Boo was really happy until just before the end, and he knew true love and devotion from you both. Not many cats on this planet can claim that. God bless you both, and don't worry about BooBoo. He is fine, happy and healthy, and waiting for you. Dede --- Lynne wrote: We lost our precious baby tonight. He developed difficulty breathing and we rushed him to the emergency clinic. He was dehydrated and had just had his lungs aspirated Friday. The vet recently experienced the same situation with his Himilayan, co-incidentally, though I sometimes think they make stuff up to identify with your pain. I held his little face in my hand and petted him as did Bob and he slipped away almost immediately. I don't think I've cried this much in my life, Bob too. At this moment I can't imagine ever being happy again. Sounds stupid but BooBoo conveyed to me this evening it was time to go and he thanked us. He was so very weak he could hardly walk but he was still purring as we pet him even with the damn catheter in. We know this was best for him but the worst for us. Thank you all for being so very supportive. Lynne When you are in the service of your fellow beings, you are only in the service of your God Mosiah 2:17 Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping
Re: Cindy Smokey
I'm sorry about your loss. :( tonya cindy reasoner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I haven't been able to post in a long time. I haven't really been able to read any post but today I was able to read a few. I am not sure what is going on with this site but all I know is that many caring people on this site helped to save my precious Smokey. He is still doing good. I am sorry for any of you that might have lost any of your babies since I have been away. We lost our dog Elvis about 3 weeks ago and it has been very hard. He was 12 years old and had liver cancer. He had gotten really bad and we had to make that awful decision to have him euthanized. I took him a rawhide to eat before the doctor did it. I was able to spend some time alone with him before letting him go. I hugged him the whole time and told him how special he was. We didn't want to see him suffer and he was getting very close to that point. It was my first time to go through this. I am so glad now that I stayed with him until the end. Cindy Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and lay it on us. http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7
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Hey Cindy, I'm really sorry to hear about your Elvis. I hope you are doing ok this weekend. We're here if you need to talk. It is good to hear from you though Cindy. And even better to hear that Smokey is doing great! :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: cindy reasoner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 12:52:50 PM Subject: Cindy Smokey I haven't been able to post in a long time. I haven't really been able to read any post but today I was able to read a few. I am not sure what is going on with this site but all I know is that many caring people on this site helped to save my precious Smokey. He is still doing good. I am sorry for any of you that might have lost any of your babies since I have been away. We lost our dog Elvis about 3 weeks ago and it has been very hard. He was 12 years old and had liver cancer. He had gotten really bad and we had to make that awful decision to have him euthanized. I took him a rawhide to eat before the doctor did it. I was able to spend some time alone with him before letting him go. I hugged him the whole time and told him how special he was. We didn't want to see him suffer and he was getting very close to that point. It was my first time to go through this. I am so glad now that I stayed with him until the end. Cindy Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and lay it on us. http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7 Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/
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Cindy, I am so sorry to hear of your loss. I can tell from your email that your precious boy was loved and knew he was in his Momma's arms. Elvis had a great time on this earth with a loving friend like you. Karen Griffith Karen Griffith Farms 34440 State Route 7 Pomeroy, Ohio 45769 Phone: 740-992-5782 Website: www.karengriffith.com Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: cindy reasoner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 1:52 PM Subject: Cindy Smokey I haven't been able to post in a long time. I haven't really been able to read any post but today I was able to read a few. I am not sure what is going on with this site but all I know is that many caring people on this site helped to save my precious Smokey. He is still doing good. I am sorry for any of you that might have lost any of your babies since I have been away. We lost our dog Elvis about 3 weeks ago and it has been very hard. He was 12 years old and had liver cancer. He had gotten really bad and we had to make that awful decision to have him euthanized. I took him a rawhide to eat before the doctor did it. I was able to spend some time alone with him before letting him go. I hugged him the whole time and told him how special he was. We didn't want to see him suffer and he was getting very close to that point. It was my first time to go through this. I am so glad now that I stayed with him until the end. Cindy Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and lay it on us. http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7
Cindy Smokey
I haven't been able to post in a long time. I haven't really been able to read any post but today I was able to read a few. I am not sure what is going on with this site but all I know is that many caring people on this site helped to save my precious Smokey. He is still doing good. I am sorry for any of you that might have lost any of your babies since I have been away. We lost our dog Elvis about 3 weeks ago and it has been very hard. He was 12 years old and had liver cancer. He had gotten really bad and we had to make that awful decision to have him euthanized. I took him a rawhide to eat before the doctor did it. I was able to spend some time alone with him before letting him go. I hugged him the whole time and told him how special he was. We didn't want to see him suffer and he was getting very close to that point. It was my first time to go through this. I am so glad now that I stayed with him until the end. Cindy Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and lay it on us. http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7
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I'm so sorry for your loss Cindy, but I'm glad you were with Elvis all the way, and he knew how very loved he was. I think it really helps--it helped me, anyway. hugs, Kerry M. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of cindy reasoner Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 12:53 PM To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Cindy Smokey I haven't been able to post in a long time. I haven't really been able to read any post but today I was able to read a few. I am not sure what is going on with this site but all I know is that many caring people on this site helped to save my precious Smokey. He is still doing good. I am sorry for any of you that might have lost any of your babies since I have been away. We lost our dog Elvis about 3 weeks ago and it has been very hard. He was 12 years old and had liver cancer. He had gotten really bad and we had to make that awful decision to have him euthanized. I took him a rawhide to eat before the doctor did it. I was able to spend some time alone with him before letting him go. I hugged him the whole time and told him how special he was. We didn't want to see him suffer and he was getting very close to that point. It was my first time to go through this. I am so glad now that I stayed with him until the end. Cindy Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and lay it on us. http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7 _ Effective September 1, 2007, we have changed our name to Mayer Brown LLP. IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer Brown LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer Brown LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayers should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor. This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
Smokey and Cindy
Hi Cindy, I was just thinking about your Smokey and I remember you coming here (a year ago?) and what bad shape he was in with the fevers. It's amazing the advancements in medicine. And Smokey possibly owes his life to the Internet, because had you not found the info. here regarding the IR, he could have succumbed to the fevers. Isn't everything just so amazing?!!! I am so glad Smokey is doing well. :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=listsid=396545469
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I am so glad that I found this site. All the info. I got was so helpful. All the wonderful people on this site saved Smokey's life. I remember one of his old vets was talking to me about having Smokey euthanized but I just couldn't do that. I was so discouraged because I didn't know what to do. The people on this site gave me so much support and I really appreciate all of you. Smokey still is skinny and I wish I could put some weight on him. He is so active now. He plays with his toys and gives me love bites. This site and the people on it are truly amazing. Cindy Reasoner --- wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Cindy, I was just thinking about your Smokey and I remember you coming here (a year ago?) and what bad shape he was in with the fevers. It's amazing the advancements in medicine. And Smokey possibly owes his life to the Internet, because had you not found the info. here regarding the IR, he could have succumbed to the fevers. Isn't everything just so amazing?!!! I am so glad Smokey is doing well. :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=listsid=396545469 Never miss an email again! Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/
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Smokey is back to his old self now. He is waiting at the door when it is time to be fed. I don't know if the conjuctivitis in his left eye had anything to do with his not eating but I am putting ointment in his eye twice daily for 5 days. The eye is looking better. I went and bought him a new scratching post and he loves those small toy mice so I bought him some of those. He throws them around everywhere and after 2 days I can't find either one of them. Thank all of you for the advice. Cindy Reasoner --- catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Cindy, I'm sure you've had plenty of advice by now, but anytime my cats won't eat I'll pretty much let them eat whatever they WILL eat (except my cat with oxc. crystals...but he always eats!). t cindy reasoner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello to everybody I haven't been able to follow all of the post because work has been very busy. I hope everyone's babies are doing fine. I had a question about Smokey. The last few days I have noticed he hasn't been eating very good. He nibbles but that is about it. I had been feeding him EVO and can food. I have tried different foods. I gave him some Purina Cat Chow and he seemed to eat a bit more of that than anything. I am not sure how good that food is for him. Tuesday night my husband took him to the vet to get an injection of Winstrol to see if that might help. He wasn't running a fever and he hadn't lost any weight. Last night I gave him some chicken we had for supper and he ate all of that. What kind of food do any of you use? He had a cbc done about 2 weeks ago and the vet said it looked really good. I hope I am not being paranoid about all of this. Any advice would be great. Cindy Reasoner __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
RE: Smokey
I'm glad Smokey seems to be feeling and eating better. It must be a big relief for you! Diane R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of cindy reasoner Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 8:51 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Smokey Smokey is back to his old self now. This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties.
Re: Smokey
Those wonderful toy mice are under your stove and/or refrigerator!!! LOL :) Wendy --- cindy reasoner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Smokey is back to his old self now. He is waiting at the door when it is time to be fed. I don't know if the conjuctivitis in his left eye had anything to do with his not eating but I am putting ointment in his eye twice daily for 5 days. The eye is looking better. I went and bought him a new scratching post and he loves those small toy mice so I bought him some of those. He throws them around everywhere and after 2 days I can't find either one of them. Thank all of you for the advice. Cindy Reasoner --- catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Cindy, I'm sure you've had plenty of advice by now, but anytime my cats won't eat I'll pretty much let them eat whatever they WILL eat (except my cat with oxc. crystals...but he always eats!). t cindy reasoner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello to everybody I haven't been able to follow all of the post because work has been very busy. I hope everyone's babies are doing fine. I had a question about Smokey. The last few days I have noticed he hasn't been eating very good. He nibbles but that is about it. I had been feeding him EVO and can food. I have tried different foods. I gave him some Purina Cat Chow and he seemed to eat a bit more of that than anything. I am not sure how good that food is for him. Tuesday night my husband took him to the vet to get an injection of Winstrol to see if that might help. He wasn't running a fever and he hadn't lost any weight. Last night I gave him some chicken we had for supper and he ate all of that. What kind of food do any of you use? He had a cbc done about 2 weeks ago and the vet said it looked really good. I hope I am not being paranoid about all of this. Any advice would be great. Cindy Reasoner __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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Hey Cindy,I'm sure you've had plenty of advice by now, but anytime my cats won't eat I'll pretty much let them eat whatever they WILL eat (except my cat with oxc. crystals...but he always eats!).tcindy reasoner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello to everybody I haven't been able to follow allof the post because work has been very busy. I hopeeveryone's babies are doing fine. I had a questionabout Smokey. The last few days I have noticed hehasn't been eating very good. He nibbles but that isabout it. I had been feeding him EVO and can food. Ihave tried different foods. I gave him some PurinaCat Chow and he seemed to eat a bit more of that thananything. I am not sure how good that food is forhim. Tuesday night my husband took him to the vet toget an injection of Winstrol to see if that mighthelp. He wasn't running a fever and he hadn't lostany weight. Last night I gave him some chicken we hadfor supper and he ate all of that. What kind of fooddo any of you use? He had a cbc done about 2 weeksago and the vet said it looked really good. I hope Iam not being paranoid about all of this. Any advicewould be great.Cindy Reasoner__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Smokey eating better
Smokey has started eating better the last day or so. When I got home from work Friday his left eye looked cloudy. I took him to the vet Saturday morning. She said he had conjuctivitis (I don't know if that is spelled correctly). Anyway she gave me some ointment to put in his eye. I think he had that back in March. It is starting to look better now. He got his nails trimmed because they were like little razor blades and he had gained a little. I guess he was eating enough to gain a little weight. I have read that alot of you give your babies lysine. I asked the vet about it and they had gotten some in so I got 2 tubes of it. The tubes were $11.00 each. Can I find it cheaper? Cindy Reasoner __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Smokey eating better
I think I paid $9.99 for a bottle of like 100 or so capsules at a health food store, but I know you can get it cheaper per ounce online. I didn't need that much. The lysine is GREAT for immune related stuff like conjunctivitis. It cleared up a bad corneal ulcer that my Smookie had when no other meds worked. So glad to hear that Smokey is eating better! :) Wendy --- cindy reasoner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Smokey has started eating better the last day or so. When I got home from work Friday his left eye looked cloudy. I took him to the vet Saturday morning. She said he had conjuctivitis (I don't know if that is spelled correctly). Anyway she gave me some ointment to put in his eye. I think he had that back in March. It is starting to look better now. He got his nails trimmed because they were like little razor blades and he had gained a little. I guess he was eating enough to gain a little weight. I have read that alot of you give your babies lysine. I asked the vet about it and they had gotten some in so I got 2 tubes of it. The tubes were $11.00 each. Can I find it cheaper? Cindy Reasoner __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Smokey
Hello to everybody I haven't been able to follow all of the post because work has been very busy. I hope everyone's babies are doing fine. I had a question about Smokey. The last few days I have noticed he hasn't been eating very good. He nibbles but that is about it. I had been feeding him EVO and can food. I have tried different foods. I gave him some Purina Cat Chow and he seemed to eat a bit more of that than anything. I am not sure how good that food is for him. Tuesday night my husband took him to the vet to get an injection of Winstrol to see if that might help. He wasn't running a fever and he hadn't lost any weight. Last night I gave him some chicken we had for supper and he ate all of that. What kind of food do any of you use? He had a cbc done about 2 weeks ago and the vet said it looked really good. I hope I am not being paranoid about all of this. Any advice would be great. Cindy Reasoner __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Smokey and food
I didn't know that you could get Innova Evo in can my vet only has it in dry. I have been getting Smokey the Fancy Feast medleys. At first he would clean his dish but now he acts like he doesn't like it. He acts fine other than his eating. I didn't know of any other foods that were good for him. I think my vet may sell Wysong I think is the name of it. I may try that. Thanks for your help. Cindy --- wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Cindy, I feed mine wet and dry Innova Evo. I also feed my geriatric kitty about a cup of cooked chicken and broth every night, which she is somewhat patiently waiting for when I get home from work, and a cup of chicken broth every morning, which she is impatiently waiting for as soon as I wake up in the morning. lol. I also feed mine as a treat the new Fancy Feast medleys, in the sea green cans. They have cool flavors like souffles and florentines. My cats LOVE them! You can get a coupon online at Fancy Feast right now. :) Wendy --- cindy reasoner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello to everybody I haven't been able to follow all of the post because work has been very busy. I hope everyone's babies are doing fine. I had a question about Smokey. The last few days I have noticed he hasn't been eating very good. He nibbles but that is about it. I had been feeding him EVO and can food. I have tried different foods. I gave him some Purina Cat Chow and he seemed to eat a bit more of that than anything. I am not sure how good that food is for him. Tuesday night my husband took him to the vet to get an injection of Winstrol to see if that might help. He wasn't running a fever and he hadn't lost any weight. Last night I gave him some chicken we had for supper and he ate all of that. What kind of food do any of you use? He had a cbc done about 2 weeks ago and the vet said it looked really good. I hope I am not being paranoid about all of this. Any advice would be great. Cindy Reasoner __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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Wysong is supposed to be good too. :) Wendy --- cindy reasoner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I didn't know that you could get Innova Evo in can my vet only has it in dry. I have been getting Smokey the Fancy Feast medleys. At first he would clean his dish but now he acts like he doesn't like it. He acts fine other than his eating. I didn't know of any other foods that were good for him. I think my vet may sell Wysong I think is the name of it. I may try that. Thanks for your help. Cindy --- wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Cindy, I feed mine wet and dry Innova Evo. I also feed my geriatric kitty about a cup of cooked chicken and broth every night, which she is somewhat patiently waiting for when I get home from work, and a cup of chicken broth every morning, which she is impatiently waiting for as soon as I wake up in the morning. lol. I also feed mine as a treat the new Fancy Feast medleys, in the sea green cans. They have cool flavors like souffles and florentines. My cats LOVE them! You can get a coupon online at Fancy Feast right now. :) Wendy --- cindy reasoner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello to everybody I haven't been able to follow all of the post because work has been very busy. I hope everyone's babies are doing fine. I had a question about Smokey. The last few days I have noticed he hasn't been eating very good. He nibbles but that is about it. I had been feeding him EVO and can food. I have tried different foods. I gave him some Purina Cat Chow and he seemed to eat a bit more of that than anything. I am not sure how good that food is for him. Tuesday night my husband took him to the vet to get an injection of Winstrol to see if that might help. He wasn't running a fever and he hadn't lost any weight. Last night I gave him some chicken we had for supper and he ate all of that. What kind of food do any of you use? He had a cbc done about 2 weeks ago and the vet said it looked really good. I hope I am not being paranoid about all of this. Any advice would be great. Cindy Reasoner __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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Cindy, I totally understand. I am so sensitive to eating habits, because to me it's the first sign of bigger things. My Satch has not approached his food with the gusto that he did before he got this cold. He's fine- he eats, but it's over a longer period and he'll leave a bite in the bowl, where before, no way. He'd stop and eat bits of dirt, buttons, spots on the carpet on the way to his bowl for breakfast and dinner, inhale it, lick it clean to make sure, inspect the area around the bowl, and try to eat everything nailed down and not on his way back to me to tell me that he could handle a helping of seconds. This cat would have been rounder than he is long if given his druthers. So now, even though he's eating okay - it's not his normal and I don't like it. I'm hoping that with the identification and treatment of the cough source that my ravenous beast will be plaguing me again. Anyway, Wysong is good, Solid Gold, Felidae, Innova Evo (which just came out with the wet food a few months ago), Max Cat, Merrill - these are all good foods and I'm sure that there are more. Fancy Feast actually isn't a bad one either. Satch loves his Innova kibble first, used to love my raw food (now leaves some uneaten) second, and then last is canned food. He always has gone in strong, but loses taste for it. So your Smokey could be the same. Only using it as a back up and then variety is my tactic. Raw or cooked chicken (depending on your comfort level) is usually a favorite with most cats (I usually cut off a bit of whatever meat I'm making for myself if there aren't spices involved to give to Satch). Good luck, they can be so picky. Leslie From: cindy reasoner [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Smokey Hello to everybody I haven't been able to follow allof the post because work has been very busy.I hopeeveryone's babies are doing fine.I had a questionabout Smokey.The last few days I have noticed he hasn't been eating very good.He nibbles but that isabout it.I had been feeding him EVO and can food.Ihave tried different foods.I gave him some PurinaCat Chow and he seemed to eat a bit more of that than anything.I am not sure how good that food is forhim. Tuesday night my husband took him to the vet toget an injection of Winstrol to see if that mighthelp.He wasn't running a fever and he hadn't lost any weight. Last night I gave him some chicken we hadfor supper and he ate all of that.What kind of fooddo any of you use?He had a cbc done about 2 weeksago and the vet said it looked really good.I hope I am not being paranoid about all of this. Any advicewould be great.Cindy Reasoner
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How do you get your cats to eat that stuff?! Mine turn their noses up as if I've put sprouts in front of them! On 9/21/06, wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wysong is supposed to be good too.:)Wendy--- cindy reasoner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I didn't know that you could get Innova Evo in can my vet only has it in dry.I have been getting Smokey the Fancy Feast medleys.At first he would clean his dish but now he acts like he doesn't like it.He acts fine other than his eating.I didn't know of any other foods that were good for him.I think my vet may sell Wysong I think is the name of it.I may try that.Thanks for your help. Cindy --- wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Cindy, I feed mine wet and dry Innova Evo.I also feed my geriatric kitty about a cup of cooked chicken and broth every night, which she is somewhat patiently waiting for when I get home from work, and a cup of chicken broth every morning, which she is impatiently waiting for as soon as I wake up in the morning. lol. I also feed mine as a treat the new Fancy Feast medleys, in the sea green cans.They have cool flavors like souffles and florentines.My cats LOVE them!You can get a coupon online at Fancy Feast right now. :) Wendy --- cindy reasoner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Hello to everybody I haven't been able to follow all of the post because work has been very busy.I hope everyone's babies are doing fine.I had a question about Smokey.The last few days I have noticed he hasn't been eating very good.He nibbles but that is about it.I had been feeding him EVO and can food. I have tried different foods.I gave him some Purina Cat Chow and he seemed to eat a bit more of that than anything.I am not sure how good that food is for him. Tuesday night my husband took him to the vet to get an injection of Winstrol to see if that might help.He wasn't running a fever and he hadn't lost any weight. Last night I gave him some chicken we had for supper and he ate all of that.What kind of food do any of you use?He had a cbc done about 2 weeks ago and the vet said it looked really good.I hope I am not being paranoid about all of this. Any advice would be great. Cindy Reasoner __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam?Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com__ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam?Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam?Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com__ Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam?Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection aroundhttp://mail.yahoo.com-- Leslie =^..^= To leave the world a better place - whether by a healthy child, a garden patch, or an improved social condition - that is to have succeeded.That only one life breathed easier because you lived - that is success. ---Ralph Waldo Emerson
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Mine don't eat it; mine eat Evo. I just know others here have fed it to their furbabies, and it's supposed to be good quality food. :) Wendy --- Leslie Lawther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *How do you get your cats to eat that stuff?! Mine turn their noses up as if I've put sprouts in front of them! * On 9/21/06, wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wysong is supposed to be good too. :) Wendy --- cindy reasoner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I didn't know that you could get Innova Evo in can my vet only has it in dry. I have been getting Smokey the Fancy Feast medleys. At first he would clean his dish but now he acts like he doesn't like it. He acts fine other than his eating. I didn't know of any other foods that were good for him. I think my vet may sell Wysong I think is the name of it. I may try that. Thanks for your help. Cindy --- wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Cindy, I feed mine wet and dry Innova Evo. I also feed my geriatric kitty about a cup of cooked chicken and broth every night, which she is somewhat patiently waiting for when I get home from work, and a cup of chicken broth every morning, which she is impatiently waiting for as soon as I wake up in the morning. lol. I also feed mine as a treat the new Fancy Feast medleys, in the sea green cans. They have cool flavors like souffles and florentines. My cats LOVE them! You can get a coupon online at Fancy Feast right now. :) Wendy --- cindy reasoner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello to everybody I haven't been able to follow all of the post because work has been very busy. I hope everyone's babies are doing fine. I had a question about Smokey. The last few days I have noticed he hasn't been eating very good. He nibbles but that is about it. I had been feeding him EVO and can food. I have tried different foods. I gave him some Purina Cat Chow and he seemed to eat a bit more of that than anything. I am not sure how good that food is for him. Tuesday night my husband took him to the vet to get an injection of Winstrol to see if that might help. He wasn't running a fever and he hadn't lost any weight. Last night I gave him some chicken we had for supper and he ate all of that. What kind of food do any of you use? He had a cbc done about 2 weeks ago and the vet said it looked really good. I hope I am not being paranoid about all of this. Any advice would be great. Cindy Reasoner __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- Leslie =^..^= To leave the world a better place - whether by a healthy child, a garden patch, or an improved social condition - that is to have succeeded. That only one life breathed easier because you lived - that is success. ---Ralph Waldo Emerson __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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My Sister had two dogs, but I would think this would apply equally to cats. If a cat/dog can't smell it's food, it probably won't eat it. Therefore, if your cat/dog has a cold/stuffed nose or allergies with stuffiness, there's always a possibly of a decline in the interest of food. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 9/21/06 1:05:13 PM Cindy, I totally understand. I am so sensitive to eating habits, because to me it's the first sign of bigger things. My Satch has not approached his food with the gusto that he did before he got this cold. He's fine - he eats, but it's over a longer period and he'll leave a bite in the bowl, where before, no way. He'd stop and eat bits of dirt, buttons, spots on the carpet on the way to his bowl for breakfast and dinner, inhale it, lick it clean to make sure, inspect the area around the bowl, and try to eat everything nailed down and not on his way back to me to tell me that he could handle a helping of seconds. This cat would have been rounder than he is long if given his druthers. So now, even though he's eating okay - it's not his normal and I don't like it. I'm hoping that with the identification and treatment of the cough source that my ravenous beast will be plaguing me again. Anyway, Wysong is good, Solid Gold, Felidae, Innova Evo (which just came out with the wet food a few months ago), Max Cat, Merrill - these are all good foods and I'm sure that there are more. Fancy Feast actually isn't a bad one either. Satch loves his Innova kibble first, used to love my raw food (now leaves some uneaten) second, and then last is canned food. He always has gone in strong, but loses taste for it. So your Smokey could be the same. Only using it as a back up and then variety is my tactic. Raw or cooked chicken (depending on your comfort level) is usually a favorite with most cats (I usually cut off a bit of whatever meat I'm making for myself if there aren't spices involved to give to Satch). Good luck, they can be so picky. Leslie From: cindy reasoner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Smokey Hello to everybody I haven't been able to follow all of the post because work has been very busy. I hope everyone's babies are doing fine. I had a question about Smokey. The last few days I have noticed he hasn't been eating very good. He nibbles but that is about it. I had been feeding him EVO and can food. I have tried different foods. I gave him some Purina Cat Chow and he seemed to eat a bit more of that than anything. I am not sure how good that food is for him. Tuesday night my husband took him to the vet to get an injection of Winstrol to see if that might help. He wasn't running a fever and he hadn't lost any weight. Last night I gave him some chicken we had for supper and he ate all of that. What kind of food do any of you use? He had a cbc done about 2 weeks ago and the vet said it looked really good. I hope I am not being paranoid about all of this. Any advice would be great. Cindy Reasoner _ CONFIDENTIALITY NOTE: This e-mail is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this e-mail message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivery of the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify us immediately by telephone at (312) 554-3300 and also indicate the sender's name. Thank you.
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This seems to be a problem. My three cats will eat Fancy Feast - but only certain limited flavors. They really don't care for the new Medleys. They don't care for Friskie's or Iams. I bought $150 worth of Wellness canned food in all of the flavors and they really aren't interested. So they probably won't like Wysong or the EVO. And when you open a can and have to throw the plateful away, it's very wasteful and expensive. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 9/21/06 1:06:47 PM *How do you get your cats to eat that stuff?! Mine turn their noses up as if I've put sprouts in front of them! * On 9/21/06, wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wysong is supposed to be good too. :) Wendy --- cindy reasoner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I didn't know that you could get Innova Evo in can my vet only has it in dry. I have been getting Smokey the Fancy Feast medleys. At first he would clean his dish but now he acts like he doesn't like it. He acts fine other than his eating. I didn't know of any other foods that were good for him. I think my vet may sell Wysong I think is the name of it. I may try that. Thanks for your help. Cindy --- wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Cindy, I feed mine wet and dry Innova Evo. I also feed my geriatric kitty about a cup of cooked chicken and broth every night, which she is somewhat patiently waiting for when I get home from work, and a cup of chicken broth every morning, which she is impatiently waiting for as soon as I wake up in the morning. lol. I also feed mine as a treat the new Fancy Feast medleys, in the sea green cans. They have cool flavors like souffles and florentines. My cats LOVE them! You can get a coupon online at Fancy Feast right now. :) Wendy --- cindy reasoner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello to everybody I haven't been able to follow all of the post because work has been very busy. I hope everyone's babies are doing fine. I had a question about Smokey. The last few days I have noticed he hasn't been eating very good. He nibbles but that is about it. I had been feeding him EVO and can food. I have tried different foods. I gave him some Purina Cat Chow and he seemed to eat a bit more of that than anything. I am not sure how good that food is for him. Tuesday night my husband took him to the vet to get an injection of Winstrol to see if that might help. He wasn't running a fever and he hadn't lost any weight. Last night I gave him some chicken we had for supper and he ate all of that. What kind of food do any of you use? He had a cbc done about 2 weeks ago and the vet said it looked really good. I hope I am not being paranoid about all of this. Any advice would be great. Cindy Reasoner __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- Leslie =^..^= To leave the world a better place - whether by a healthy child, a garden patch, or an improved social condition - that is to have succeeded. That only one life breathed easier because you lived - that is success. ---Ralph Waldo Emerson _ CONFIDENTIALITY NOTE: This e-mail is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this e-mail message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivery of the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify us immediately by telephone at (312) 554-3300 and also indicate the sender's name. Thank you.
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What are the votes on Wellness canned??? My little fussies don't like it. I bought every flavor - I wonder if they don't like the texture, as it seems creamier than Fancy Feast. They will eat the Wellness dry, though, so they're at least getting some very nutritious into their systems. I want them to have good quality food, no matter the cost, but they seem to like Fancy Feast roasted chicken, chunky chicken, fish shrimp and beef and chicken. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 9/21/06 1:08:11 PM Mine don't eat it; mine eat Evo. I just know others here have fed it to their furbabies, and it's supposed to be good quality food. :) Wendy --- Leslie Lawther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *How do you get your cats to eat that stuff?! Mine turn their noses up as if I've put sprouts in front of them! * On 9/21/06, wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wysong is supposed to be good too. :) Wendy --- cindy reasoner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I didn't know that you could get Innova Evo in can my vet only has it in dry. I have been getting Smokey the Fancy Feast medleys. At first he would clean his dish but now he acts like he doesn't like it. He acts fine other than his eating. I didn't know of any other foods that were good for him. I think my vet may sell Wysong I think is the name of it. I may try that. Thanks for your help. Cindy --- wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Cindy, I feed mine wet and dry Innova Evo. I also feed my geriatric kitty about a cup of cooked chicken and broth every night, which she is somewhat patiently waiting for when I get home from work, and a cup of chicken broth every morning, which she is impatiently waiting for as soon as I wake up in the morning. lol. I also feed mine as a treat the new Fancy Feast medleys, in the sea green cans. They have cool flavors like souffles and florentines. My cats LOVE them! You can get a coupon online at Fancy Feast right now. :) Wendy --- cindy reasoner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello to everybody I haven't been able to follow all of the post because work has been very busy. I hope everyone's babies are doing fine. I had a question about Smokey. The last few days I have noticed he hasn't been eating very good. He nibbles but that is about it. I had been feeding him EVO and can food. I have tried different foods. I gave him some Purina Cat Chow and he seemed to eat a bit more of that than anything. I am not sure how good that food is for him. Tuesday night my husband took him to the vet to get an injection of Winstrol to see if that might help. He wasn't running a fever and he hadn't lost any weight. Last night I gave him some chicken we had for supper and he ate all of that. What kind of food do any of you use? He had a cbc done about 2 weeks ago and the vet said it looked really good. I hope I am not being paranoid about all of this. Any advice would be great. Cindy Reasoner __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- Leslie =^..^= To leave the world a better place - whether by a healthy child, a garden patch, or an improved social condition - that is to have succeeded. That only one life breathed easier because you lived - that is success. ---Ralph Waldo Emerson __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _ CONFIDENTIALITY NOTE: This e-mail is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this e-mail message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivery of the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying
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You can get Innova EVO canned at www.petdirect.com.Leslie Lawther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do you get your cats to eat that stuff?! Mine turn their noses up as if I've put sprouts in front of them! On 9/21/06, wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wysong is supposed to be good too.:)Wendy--- cindy reasoner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I didn't know that you could get Innova Evo in can my vet only has it in dry.I have been getting Smokey the Fancy Feast medleys.At first he would clean his dish but now he acts like he doesn't like it.He acts fine other than his eating.I didn't know of any other foods that were good for him.I think my vet may sell Wysong I think is the name of it.I may try that.Thanks for your help. Cindy --- wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Cindy, I feed mine wet and dry Innova Evo.I also feed my geriatric kitty about a cup of cooked chicken and broth every night, which she is somewhat patiently waiting for when I get home from work, and a cup of chicken broth every morning, which she is impatiently waiting for as soon as I wake up in the morning. lol. I also feed mine as a treat the new Fancy Feast medleys, in the sea green cans.They have cool flavors like souffles and florentines.My cats LOVE them!You can get a coupon online at Fancy Feast right now.:) Wendy --- cindy reasoner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Hello to everybody I haven't been able to follow all of the post because work has been very busy.I hope everyone's babies are doing fine.I had a question about Smokey.The last few days I have noticed he hasn't been eating very good.He nibbles but that is about it.I had been feeding him EVO and can food. I have tried different foods.I gave him some Purina Cat Chow and he seemed to eat a bit more of that than anything.I am not sure how good that food is for him. Tuesday night my husband took him to the vet to get an injection of Winstrol to see if that might help.He wasn't running a fever and he hadn't lost any weight. Last night I gave him some chicken we had for supper and he ate all of that.What kind of food do any of you use?He had a cbc done about 2 weeks ago and the vet said it looked really good.I hope I am not being paranoid about all of this. Any advice would be great. Cindy Reasoner __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam?Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com__ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam?Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam?Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com__ Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam?Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection aroundhttp://mail.yahoo.com-- Leslie =^..^= To leave the world a better place - whether by a healthy child, a garden patch, or an improved social condition - that is to have succeeded.That only one life breathed easier because you lived - that is success. ---Ralph Waldo Emerson How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messengers low PC-to-Phone call rates.
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Thanks. I called my vet and they sell Innova and California Natural. They don't have the EVO or California Natural in can though. Smokey has always seemed to like the wet food the best. I guess I could order the canned food over the internet. Cindy --- Leslie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cindy, I totally understand. I am so sensitive to eating habits, because to me it's the first sign of bigger things. My Satch has not approached his food with the gusto that he did before he got this cold. He's fine - he eats, but it's over a longer period and he'll leave a bite in the bowl, where before, no way. He'd stop and eat bits of dirt, buttons, spots on the carpet on the way to his bowl for breakfast and dinner, inhale it, lick it clean to make sure, inspect the area around the bowl, and try to eat everything nailed down and not on his way back to me to tell me that he could handle a helping of seconds. This cat would have been rounder than he is long if given his druthers. So now, even though he's eating okay - it's not his normal and I don't like it. I'm hoping that with the identification and treatment of the cough source that my ravenous beast will be plaguing me again. Anyway, Wysong is good, Solid Gold, Felidae, Innova Evo (which just came out with the wet food a few months ago), Max Cat, Merrill - these are all good foods and I'm sure that there are more. Fancy Feast actually isn't a bad one either. Satch loves his Innova kibble first, used to love my raw food (now leaves some uneaten) second, and then last is canned food. He always has gone in strong, but loses taste for it. So your Smokey could be the same. Only using it as a back up and then variety is my tactic. Raw or cooked chicken (depending on your comfort level) is usually a favorite with most cats (I usually cut off a bit of whatever meat I'm making for myself if there aren't spices involved to give to Satch). Good luck, they can be so picky. Leslie From: cindy reasoner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Smokey Hello to everybody I haven't been able to follow all of the post because work has been very busy. I hope everyone's babies are doing fine. I had a question about Smokey. The last few days I have noticed he hasn't been eating very good. He nibbles but that is about it. I had been feeding him EVO and can food. I have tried different foods. I gave him some Purina Cat Chow and he seemed to eat a bit more of that than anything. I am not sure how good that food is for him. Tuesday night my husband took him to the vet to get an injection of Winstrol to see if that might help. He wasn't running a fever and he hadn't lost any weight. Last night I gave him some chicken we had for supper and he ate all of that. What kind of food do any of you use? He had a cbc done about 2 weeks ago and the vet said it looked really good. I hope I am not being paranoid about all of this. Any advice would be great. Cindy Reasoner __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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You can go on their website and type in your zip code and it will give you a list of dealers in your area. :) Wendy --- cindy reasoner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks. I called my vet and they sell Innova and California Natural. They don't have the EVO or California Natural in can though. Smokey has always seemed to like the wet food the best. I guess I could order the canned food over the internet. Cindy --- Leslie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cindy, I totally understand. I am so sensitive to eating habits, because to me it's the first sign of bigger things. My Satch has not approached his food with the gusto that he did before he got this cold. He's fine - he eats, but it's over a longer period and he'll leave a bite in the bowl, where before, no way. He'd stop and eat bits of dirt, buttons, spots on the carpet on the way to his bowl for breakfast and dinner, inhale it, lick it clean to make sure, inspect the area around the bowl, and try to eat everything nailed down and not on his way back to me to tell me that he could handle a helping of seconds. This cat would have been rounder than he is long if given his druthers. So now, even though he's eating okay - it's not his normal and I don't like it. I'm hoping that with the identification and treatment of the cough source that my ravenous beast will be plaguing me again. Anyway, Wysong is good, Solid Gold, Felidae, Innova Evo (which just came out with the wet food a few months ago), Max Cat, Merrill - these are all good foods and I'm sure that there are more. Fancy Feast actually isn't a bad one either. Satch loves his Innova kibble first, used to love my raw food (now leaves some uneaten) second, and then last is canned food. He always has gone in strong, but loses taste for it. So your Smokey could be the same. Only using it as a back up and then variety is my tactic. Raw or cooked chicken (depending on your comfort level) is usually a favorite with most cats (I usually cut off a bit of whatever meat I'm making for myself if there aren't spices involved to give to Satch). Good luck, they can be so picky. Leslie From: cindy reasoner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Smokey Hello to everybody I haven't been able to follow all of the post because work has been very busy. I hope everyone's babies are doing fine. I had a question about Smokey. The last few days I have noticed he hasn't been eating very good. He nibbles but that is about it. I had been feeding him EVO and can food. I have tried different foods. I gave him some Purina Cat Chow and he seemed to eat a bit more of that than anything. I am not sure how good that food is for him. Tuesday night my husband took him to the vet to get an injection of Winstrol to see if that might help. He wasn't running a fever and he hadn't lost any weight. Last night I gave him some chicken we had for supper and he ate all of that. What kind of food do any of you use? He had a cbc done about 2 weeks ago and the vet said it looked really good. I hope I am not being paranoid about all of this. Any advice would be great. Cindy Reasoner __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Smokey and food
I know if one of my cats aren't eating off I go to the store to buy every variety of food they sell. It gets very expensive. After I feed Smokey I will give him about an hour. If he hasn't touched his food here I go with a smorgasbord for him. I know he probably thinks I am crazy. Cindy --- Susan Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This seems to be a problem. My three cats will eat Fancy Feast - but only certain limited flavors. They really don't care for the new Medleys. They don't care for Friskie's or Iams. I bought $150 worth of Wellness canned food in all of the flavors and they really aren't interested. So they probably won't like Wysong or the EVO. And when you open a can and have to throw the plateful away, it's very wasteful and expensive. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 9/21/06 1:06:47 PM *How do you get your cats to eat that stuff?! Mine turn their noses up as if I've put sprouts in front of them! * On 9/21/06, wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wysong is supposed to be good too. :) Wendy --- cindy reasoner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I didn't know that you could get Innova Evo in can my vet only has it in dry. I have been getting Smokey the Fancy Feast medleys. At first he would clean his dish but now he acts like he doesn't like it. He acts fine other than his eating. I didn't know of any other foods that were good for him. I think my vet may sell Wysong I think is the name of it. I may try that. Thanks for your help. Cindy --- wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Cindy, I feed mine wet and dry Innova Evo. I also feed my geriatric kitty about a cup of cooked chicken and broth every night, which she is somewhat patiently waiting for when I get home from work, and a cup of chicken broth every morning, which she is impatiently waiting for as soon as I wake up in the morning. lol. I also feed mine as a treat the new Fancy Feast medleys, in the sea green cans. They have cool flavors like souffles and florentines. My cats LOVE them! You can get a coupon online at Fancy Feast right now. :) Wendy --- cindy reasoner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello to everybody I haven't been able to follow all of the post because work has been very busy. I hope everyone's babies are doing fine. I had a question about Smokey. The last few days I have noticed he hasn't been eating very good. He nibbles but that is about it. I had been feeding him EVO and can food. I have tried different foods. I gave him some Purina Cat Chow and he seemed to eat a bit more of that than anything. I am not sure how good that food is for him. Tuesday night my husband took him to the vet to get an injection of Winstrol to see if that might help. He wasn't running a fever and he hadn't lost any weight. Last night I gave him some chicken we had for supper and he ate all of that. What kind of food do any of you use? He had a cbc done about 2 weeks ago and the vet said it looked really good. I hope I am not being paranoid about all of this. Any advice would be great. Cindy Reasoner __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- Leslie =^..^= To leave the world a better place - whether by a healthy child, a garden patch, or an improved social condition - that is to have succeeded. That only one life breathed easier because you lived - that is success. ---Ralph Waldo Emerson _ CONFIDENTIALITY NOTE: === message truncated === __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Smokey and food
No.Smokey is probably thinking how well he's trained you! [EMAIL PROTECTED] 9/21/06 1:56:59 PM I know if one of my cats aren't eating off I go to the store to buy every variety of food they sell. It gets very expensive. After I feed Smokey I will give him about an hour. If he hasn't touched his food here I go with a smorgasbord for him. I know he probably thinks I am crazy. Cindy --- Susan Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This seems to be a problem. My three cats will eat Fancy Feast - but only certain limited flavors. They really don't care for the new Medleys. They don't care for Friskie's or Iams. I bought $150 worth of Wellness canned food in all of the flavors and they really aren't interested. So they probably won't like Wysong or the EVO. And when you open a can and have to throw the plateful away, it's very wasteful and expensive. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 9/21/06 1:06:47 PM *How do you get your cats to eat that stuff?! Mine turn their noses up as if I've put sprouts in front of them! * On 9/21/06, wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wysong is supposed to be good too. :) Wendy --- cindy reasoner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I didn't know that you could get Innova Evo in can my vet only has it in dry. I have been getting Smokey the Fancy Feast medleys. At first he would clean his dish but now he acts like he doesn't like it. He acts fine other than his eating. I didn't know of any other foods that were good for him. I think my vet may sell Wysong I think is the name of it. I may try that. Thanks for your help. Cindy --- wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Cindy, I feed mine wet and dry Innova Evo. I also feed my geriatric kitty about a cup of cooked chicken and broth every night, which she is somewhat patiently waiting for when I get home from work, and a cup of chicken broth every morning, which she is impatiently waiting for as soon as I wake up in the morning. lol. I also feed mine as a treat the new Fancy Feast medleys, in the sea green cans. They have cool flavors like souffles and florentines. My cats LOVE them! You can get a coupon online at Fancy Feast right now. :) Wendy --- cindy reasoner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello to everybody I haven't been able to follow all of the post because work has been very busy. I hope everyone's babies are doing fine. I had a question about Smokey. The last few days I have noticed he hasn't been eating very good. He nibbles but that is about it. I had been feeding him EVO and can food. I have tried different foods. I gave him some Purina Cat Chow and he seemed to eat a bit more of that than anything. I am not sure how good that food is for him. Tuesday night my husband took him to the vet to get an injection of Winstrol to see if that might help. He wasn't running a fever and he hadn't lost any weight. Last night I gave him some chicken we had for supper and he ate all of that. What kind of food do any of you use? He had a cbc done about 2 weeks ago and the vet said it looked really good. I hope I am not being paranoid about all of this. Any advice would be great. Cindy Reasoner __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- Leslie =^..^= To leave the world a better place - whether by a healthy child, a garden patch, or an improved social condition - that is to have succeeded. That only one life breathed easier because you lived - that is success. ---Ralph Waldo Emerson _ CONFIDENTIALITY NOTE: === message truncated === __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _ CONFIDENTIALITY NOTE: This e-mail is intended only for the use of the individual or entity
Re: Cannot Diagnose Breathing Issue with Smokey
Has he been checked for asthma, I know cats get this and breathing problems is usually how it presents? Smokey's breathing issues -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: Cannot Diagnose Breathing Issue with Smokey
Dee, I don't want to scare you, but two of the kitties from the hyper-T group I belong to were diagnosed with lung cancer. One passed last week and the other was just diagnosed. They both were originally diagnosed with asthma, so you might want to look into this. I hope it's just asthma though. Prayers going out to little Smokey. :) Wendy __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Cannot Diagnose Breathing Issue with Smokey
Dee, can you take Smokey to an internist, at a bigger clinic or hospital or referral center? They are usually better at diagnosis that local general practitioner vets. Cloudiness can mean asthma, I think. I am not sure if it can be an indication of lymphoma or not, though I would not think so. A lot of cats get asthma and there are treatments for it. Michelle
RE: Cannot Diagnose Breathing Issue with Smokey
I am going through something similar with my Ayumi -- could you explain more about what you mean by breathing issue --- is he breathing laborly or fast or mouth open.. or etc??? If he is coughing, could he have asthma.. could he have heartworm or flea related problem.. those are very hard to diagnosis.. But, I think the next step will be ultrasound.. my vet says, ultrasound will show if it's heartworm related sometimes.. Hideyo -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nina Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 8:00 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Cannot Diagnose Breathing Issue with Smokey Check out Hideyo's posts about the at home oxygen tank. Maybe something like that would help his breathing. Could it be something like asthma, or some sort of allergy? Has he gotten better on since you started the Dox? Hemobart is hard to detect. I'm not sure what cloudiness around his lungs indicates, if it's not fluid. I seem to remember reading something about that recently, maybe someone else will chime in here with some suggestions. I hate putting our babies through all these tests, all the expense, just to be told, we still don't know. It's so frustrating. Sending good thoughts and prayers your way, Nina Dee Evan wrote: Hi everyone. Sorry I haven't been checking any of our messages lately. We are perplexed by Smokey's breathing issues. We have had him to the vet 3-4 times in the past month trying to figure out what is going on. We did another chest x-ray. There is no fluid around his lungs but his lungs still look like fluffy cotton, maybe even a little worse at his last visit on 09/05/06. Our vet sent blood work out to a lab to get several tests ran. The results came back today. His RBC is at 5.92 so he has slight anemia. His hematocrit is at 37%. But everything else was negative. No infection, no bacteria, no fungal infection, everything came out clean. It was even negative for the hemobart parasite. I plan on finishing the Doxy regiment until at least the 21st though. I am just worried sick over his breathing. Periodically he also has coughing fits. I just don't know what to think. The vet said the next step would be an ultrasound, especially of his heart. I started him on Lysine last week. I think he has gotten wise to it as he has stopped eating as much of his canned food that I put it in. At least I am hoping that is the case it is not because he doesn't want to eat now. He still LOVES his chicken I feed him in the morning evening. We have a running tally of about $1,200 to $1,300 so far and I am running out of resourse to fund this. Any input, suggestions, or encouragement would be greatly appreciated at this point. Thanks to everyone...you are a wonderful group of people. All of your furbabies are in good hands. ~Dee
Re: Cannot Diagnose Breathing Issue with Smokey
Dee Evan wrote: Hi everyone. Sorry I haven't been checking any of our messages lately. We are perplexed by Smokey's breathing issues. We have had him to the vet 3-4 times in the past month trying to figure out what is going on. We did another chest x-ray. There is no fluid around his lungs but his lungs still look like fluffy cotton, maybe even a little worse at his last visit on 09/05/06. Our vet sent blood work out to a lab to get several tests ran. The results came back today. His RBC is at 5.92 so he has slight anemia. His hematocrit is at 37%. But everything else was negative. No infection, no bacteria, no fungal infection, everything came out clean. It was even negative for the hemobart parasite. I plan on finishing the Doxy regiment until at least the 21st though. I am just worried sick over his breathing. Periodically he also has coughing fits. I just don't know what to think. The vet said the next step would be an ultrasound, especially of his heart. I started him on Lysine last week. I think he has gotten wise to it as he has stopped eating as much of his canned food that I put it in. At least I am hoping that is the case it is not because he doesn't want to eat now. He still LOVES his chicken I feed him in the morning evening. We have a running tally of about $1,200 to $1,300 so far and I am running out of resourse to fund this. Any input, suggestions, or encouragement would be greatly appreciated at this point. Thanks to everyone...you are a wonderful group of people. All of your furbabies are in good hands. ~Dee Hi Dee, This sounds like asthma. Speak to your vet about inhaled albuterol for flare ups and Flovent (inhaled steroid) to reduce inflammation which may be causing his breathing difficulty. Inhaled Flovent has virtually no systemic effects. You'll need a spacer to deliver the medication to his lungs see http://aerokat.com/ Flovent takes about a week to begin working but the albuterol should give him immediate relief. Joe
Cannot Diagnose Breathing Issue with Smokey
Hi everyone. Sorry I haven't been checking any of our messages lately. We are perplexed by Smokey's breathing issues. We have had him to the vet 3-4 times in the past month trying to figure out what is going on. We did another chest x-ray. There is no fluid around his lungs but his lungs still look like fluffy cotton, maybe even a little worse at his last visit on 09/05/06. Our vet sent blood work out to a lab to get several tests ran. The results came back today. His RBC is at 5.92 so he has slight anemia. His hematocrit is at 37%. But everything else was negative. No infection, no bacteria, no fungal infection, everything came out clean. It was even negative for the hemobart parasite. I plan on finishing the Doxy regiment until at least the 21st though. I am just worried sick over his breathing. Periodically he also has coughing fits. I just don't know what to think. The vet said the next step would be an ultrasound, especially of his heart. I started him on Lysine last week. I think he has gotten wise to it as he has stopped eating as much of his canned food that I put it in. At least I am hoping that is the case it is not because he doesn't want to eat now. He still LOVES his chicken I feed him in the morning evening. We have a running tally of about $1,200 to $1,300 so far and I am running out of resourse to fund this. Any input, suggestions, or encouragement would be greatly appreciated at this point. Thanks to everyone...you are a wonderful group of people. All of your furbabies are in good hands. ~Dee
Re: Cannot Diagnose Breathing Issue with Smokey
Check out Hideyo's posts about the at home oxygen tank. Maybe something like that would help his breathing. Could it be something like asthma, or some sort of allergy? Has he gotten better on since you started the Dox? Hemobart is hard to detect. I'm not sure what cloudiness around his lungs indicates, if it's not fluid. I seem to remember reading something about that recently, maybe someone else will chime in here with some suggestions. I hate putting our babies through all these tests, all the expense, just to be told, we still don't know. It's so frustrating. Sending good thoughts and prayers your way, Nina Dee Evan wrote: Hi everyone. Sorry I haven't been checking any of our messages lately. We are perplexed by Smokey's breathing issues. We have had him to the vet 3-4 times in the past month trying to figure out what is going on. We did another chest x-ray. There is no fluid around his lungs but his lungs still look like fluffy cotton, maybe even a little worse at his last visit on 09/05/06. Our vet sent blood work out to a lab to get several tests ran. The results came back today. His RBC is at 5.92 so he has slight anemia. His hematocrit is at 37%. But everything else was negative. No infection, no bacteria, no fungal infection, everything came out clean. It was even negative for the hemobart parasite. I plan on finishing the Doxy regiment until at least the 21st though. I am just worried sick over his breathing. Periodically he also has coughing fits. I just don't know what to think. The vet said the next step would be an ultrasound, especially of his heart. I started him on Lysine last week. I think he has gotten wise to it as he has stopped eating as much of his canned food that I put it in. At least I am hoping that is the case it is not because he doesn't want to eat now. He still LOVES his chicken I feed him in the morning evening. We have a running tally of about $1,200 to $1,300 so far and I am running out of resourse to fund this. Any input, suggestions, or encouragement would be greatly appreciated at this point. Thanks to everyone...you are a wonderful group of people. All of your furbabies are in good hands. ~Dee
To Cindy Re: Smokey
Hey Cindy, I am not sure if anyone answered this email or not. They might have thought it was regarding the other Smokey and not even opened it. I am not sure what test is the most definitive, but if you repost and ask with that in the subject line, I know you will get some answers if you haven't already. Did you already have Smokey tested? If so, how did it go and which test did the vet use? Did you have bloodwork done? I think unless he's sick, that you only need to do blood work once a year. And I'm not sure that everyone even does it that often. Hope this helps. :) Wendy --- cindy reasoner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had a few questions regarding my Smokey. I am taking him to the vet tomorrow to be retested for feline leukemia. He hasn't been tested since February. I have read about some of the different types of test. Which test is the best? He hasn't had a complete blood count done since March. Should I have another one done on him? He seems to be doing good right now. He is eating good and he is playing. I haven't been able to read alot of the post on the list lately because work has been very very hectic. My boss had a heart attack so it has been very busy with him out. He is doing better now. To all of you that have lost your babies I am so sorry. All of you were so kind to me when my Stinky passed away and gave me great info. when Smokey tested positive. You all gave me hope that just because a cat test positive for feline leukemia it isn't an immediate death sentence like many vets tell you. Thank you. Cindy __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Smokey
I had a few questions regarding my Smokey. I am taking him to the vet tomorrow to be retested for feline leukemia. He hasn't been tested since February. I have read about some of the different types of test. Which test is the best? He hasn't had a complete blood count done since March. Should I have another one done on him? He seems to be doing good right now. He is eating good and he is playing. I haven't been able to read alot of the post on the list lately because work has been very very hectic. My boss had a heart attack so it has been very busy with him out. He is doing better now. To all of you that have lost your babies I am so sorry. All of you were so kind to me when my Stinky passed away and gave me great info. when Smokey tested positive. You all gave me hope that just because a cat test positive for feline leukemia it isn't an immediate death sentence like many vets tell you. Thank you. Cindy __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Smokey and family pics
We've really enjoyed looking at some of the beautiful pics folks have been sharing so wanted to show off our family as well. Smokey, our newest addition, is the one who led us to this fine group. There are two pics (dated) that we took this evening - he's looking so good - he's really come a long way. Hope all are enjoying some well deserved RR this holiday weekend. ~ Evan Dee http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/paws16242/album?.dir=608e.src=phstore=prodid=.done=http%3a//pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/paws16242/my_photos http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/paws16242/album?.dir=608e.src=phstore=prodid=.done=http%3a//pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/paws16242/my_photos
Re: Smokey and family pics
Cute pics!!Evan Dee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We've really enjoyed looking at some of the beautiful pics folks have been sharing so wanted to show off our family as well. Smokey, our newest addition, is the one who led us to this fine group. There are two pics (dated) that we took this evening - he's looking so good - he's really come a long way. Hope all are enjoying some well deserved RR this holiday weekend. ~ Evan Deehttp://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/paws16242/album?.dir=608e.src=""> Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less.
Re: Smokey and family pics
You have a beautiful family!!! :) Wendy --- Evan Dee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We've really enjoyed looking at some of the beautiful pics folks have been sharing so wanted to show off our family as well. Smokey, our newest addition, is the one who led us to this fine group. There are two pics (dated) that we took this evening - he's looking so good - he's really come a long way. Hope all are enjoying some well deserved RR this holiday weekend. ~ Evan Dee http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/paws16242/album?.dir=608e.src=phstore=prodid=.done=http%3a//pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/paws16242/my_photos http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/paws16242/album?.dir=608e.src=phstore=prodid=.done=http%3a//pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/paws16242/my_photos __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Smokey and family pics
You have a gorgeous group too, everyone has such adorable furkids!! -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: Smokey and family pics
What a great fur family! I love the pictures :) Your dogs are darling.Evan Dee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We've really enjoyed looking at some of the beautiful pics folks have been sharing so wanted to show off our family as well. Smokey, our newest addition, is the one who led us to this fine group. There are two pics (dated) that we took this evening - he's looking so good - he's really come a long way. Hope all are enjoying some well deserved RR this holiday weekend. ~ Evan Deehttp://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/paws16242/album?.dir=608e.src="">Please visitmy Tigger Tales site! On the fundraising page aremy merchant affiliate banners. If anyone uses my links to make a purchase, I will receive a percentage of all final sales.I am going to donate100% ofthe proceeds to animal welfare organizations.This is a great way to shop your favorite online pet stores and give something to a worthy cause. Thank you in advance! All-new Yahoo! Mail - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster.
Re: Smokey is Coughing
Hi Dee, I did a quick Google and found the following site that talks about what's normal for cats. http://vetmedicine.about.com/od/diseasesconditionsfaqs/tp/TP_catfacts.htm It says the respiratory rate should be 16-40 breaths per minute. That's a pretty wide range. If he's just had one of his coughing jags, it would of course be higher. I would check him when he seems to be resting comfortably. I don't know why your vet would be concerned about easing him into interferon or Lysine. Neither one of those should cause him any side effects. He's been on Dox for 5 days, you should have seen some improvement by now, have you? Do you know for a fact that he indeed has Hemobart? The labored breathing thing is really scary to watch. The only thing I've heard that is good for that is setting up an oxygen carrier. What's going on with that cough? I'm sorry if you've answered this before, but what does your vet attribute that to? I hadn't heard about Hemobart causing respiratory symptoms. Prayers and good thoughts to you and Smokey, Nina Dee Evan wrote: Smokey started his Doxy regiment last Wednesday for his Hemobart. I started him on his Interferon this morning (Sunday). The vet suggested I ease him into each regiment one at a time so if he has any symptoms we may be able to pinpoint which regiment caused the problems. I am hoping to start him on the Lysine this week. However, I am still worried about his breathing. At times he seems to have labored breathing and at other times it seems to be better...but still not great. However, I have noticed on at least three different times within the past week that he has had a coughing fit that takes him a while to cease. It seems to be a true cough, not a hairball cough. He has no discharge from his nose or eyes. Does anyone know what is a cat's normal respiratory rate? The vet wanted him to come in any way in about 5 to 7 days from when he started the Doxy to do some blood work (this Tuesday). But I don't know if it would be better for him to wait due to the stress of the travel to the vet or if it would be better to take him in right away due to his coughing breathing. I know any stress can make the virus do more damage. Does anyone have any advice to lend me? Any input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. ~Dee
RE: Smokey is Coughing
http://www.alohapetservices.com/pet_cpr.html Hi Dee I did a quick net search and found this (see para below) from the website above, but i don't know how authoritative it is. I recall counting my healthy cat's rate and it being in the 30s or even higher, I *think*. Do you have any other cats that you can use as a check? Maybe someone who's at home right now cd count a healthy cat for you and report back? (I'm at work) I do know that when there was a serious problem, it was very obvious to me that their breathing was abnormal--it was the breathing that alerted me in fact. But recently, I thought my foster cat was breathing dangerously fast, but it slowed down, so i put it down to stress, or racing around my apartment. Personally, I would take Smokey for his appointment and just do my best to soothe him/minimize the stress involved. Sending lots of positive healing vibes for Smokey, Kerry M. Your pets' breathing is another vital indicator of your pet's health. You can visually or manually check your pet's breathing. Place your hand on the side of the chest or watch for the rise and fall of the chest; count the rises or the falls for 30 seconds and double this number to get breaths per minute. The quality and character of your pet's breathing should be rhythmic, easy and smooth while at rest. The breathing rate for dogs is 10-30 breaths per minute. Cats breathe approximately 20-30 breaths per minute. Record the normal breathing rate for your pet. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dee Evan Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 9:11 PM To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Smokey is Coughing Smokey started his Doxy regiment last Wednesday for his Hemobart. I started him on his Interferon this morning (Sunday). The vet suggested I ease him into each regiment one at a time so if he has any symptoms we may be able to pinpoint which regiment caused the problems. I am hoping to start him on the Lysine this week. However, I am still worried about his breathing. At times he seems to have labored breathing and at other times it seems to be better...but still not great. However, I have noticed on at least three different times within the past week that he has had a coughing fit that takes him a while to cease. It seems to be a true cough, not a hairball cough. He has no discharge from his nose or eyes. Does anyone know what is a cat's normal respiratory rate? The vet wanted him to come in any way in about 5 to 7 days from when he started the Doxy to do some blood work (this Tuesday). But I don't know if it would be better for him to wait due to the stress of the travel to the vet or if it would be better to take him in right away due to his coughing breathing. I know any stress can make the virus do more damage. Does anyone have any advice to lend me? Any input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. ~Dee IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayer should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
Re: Smokey is Coughing
I've never heard of coughing being related to either treatment. I really don't know. I hope Smokey is feeling better soon. tonyaDee Evan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Smokey started his Doxy regiment last Wednesday for his Hemobart. I started him on his Interferon this morning (Sunday). The vet suggested I ease him into each regiment one at a time so if he has any symptoms we may be able to pinpoint which regiment caused the problems. I am hoping to start him on the Lysine this week. However, I am still worried about his breathing. At times he seems to have labored breathing and at other times it seems to be better...but still not great. However, I have noticed on at least three different times within the past week that he has had a coughing fit that takes him a while to cease. It seems to be a "true" cough, not a hairball cough. He has no discharge from his nose or eyes. Does anyone know what is a cat's normal respiratory rate? The vet wanted him to come in any way in about 5 to 7 days from when he started the Doxy to do some blood work (this Tuesday). But I don't know if it would be better for him to wait due to the stress of the travel to the vet or if it would be better to take him in right away due to his coughing breathing. I know any stress can make the virus do more damage. Does anyone have any advice to lend me? Any input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.~Dee
Re: Smokey is Coughing
I think any respiratory distress calls for a chest x-ray, personally. Better safe than sorry. Phaewryn Please adopt a cat from Little Cheetah Cat Rescue!!! http://ucat.us/adopt.html Low cost SpayNeuter services in VT, and Emergency Financial Assistance for cat owners:http://ucat.us/VermontLowCost.htmlSpecial Needs Cat Resources: http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html The Sofa Poem: http://ucat.us/sofapoem.html Please shop online through i-give and support the Feline Veterinary Emergency Assistance Program:http://www.igive.com/FVEAP Shop at GREAT stores, like Drs. Foster Smith, Pet Food Direct, Musician's Friend, and LOTS more!It doesn't cost you a single penny more, and it makes so much difference to a sick cat in need! No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.6/428 - Release Date: 8/25/2006
Re: Smokey is Coughing (my cat's respiratory rates)
Miranda is 21 (asleep) Tigger is 21 (resting and looking at me) Tang is 49 (freaking about because I was hovering over him) Mythic is 28 (resting, best I could count with him scratching and wiggling) Doobie is 51 (he associates me with food, so he was sniffing for food the whole time and meowing) Bones wouldn't shut up and be still long enough for me to count, but it was about1 meowper second or two). Phaewryn Please adopt a cat from Little Cheetah Cat Rescue!!! http://ucat.us/adopt.html Low cost SpayNeuter services in VT, and Emergency Financial Assistance for cat owners:http://ucat.us/VermontLowCost.htmlSpecial Needs Cat Resources: http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html The Sofa Poem: http://ucat.us/sofapoem.html Please shop online through i-give and support the Feline Veterinary Emergency Assistance Program:http://www.igive.com/FVEAP Shop at GREAT stores, like Drs. Foster Smith, Pet Food Direct, Musician's Friend, and LOTS more!It doesn't cost you a single penny more, and it makes so much difference to a sick cat in need! No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.6/428 - Release Date: 8/25/2006
Smokey is Coughing
Smokey started his Doxy regiment last Wednesday for his Hemobart. I started him on his Interferon this morning (Sunday). The vet suggested I ease him into each regiment one at a time so if he has any symptoms we may be able to pinpoint which regiment caused the problems. I am hoping to start him on the Lysine this week. However, I am still worried about his breathing. At times he seems to have labored breathing and at other times it seems to be better...but still not great. However, I have noticed on at least three different times within the past week that he has had a coughing fit that takes him a while to cease. It seems to be a true cough, not a hairball cough. He has no discharge from his nose or eyes. Does anyone know what is a cat's normal respiratory rate? The vet wanted him to come in any way in about 5 to 7 days from when he started the Doxy to do some blood work (this Tuesday). But I don't know if it would be better for him to wait due to the stress of the travel to the vet or if it would be better to take him in right away due to his coughing breathing. I know any stress can make the virus do more damage. Does anyone have any advice to lend me? Any input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. ~Dee
Re: Smokey is Coughing
Has he been x-rayed and/or ultrasoundedto see if there are any masses near his lungs, i.e. lymphoma? Not to scare you, but it should probably be checked. Michelle
Re: Smokey is Coughing
Michelle, Yes, he had X-Rays done of his lungs about one week ago. The only thing the vet told me is that it looked like fluffy cotton, which indicated slight pnuemonia. ~Dee
Re: Smokey is Coughing
Hi Dee, I am stumped as to what could be causing Smokey's coughing and labored breathing still. I have no idea what the normal respiratory rate is for a kitty. Let me know if you find out and I'll add it to the sick kitty manual. Is he still coughing today? Do you really feel that it's something serious? You might have to go with your gut on this one. Coughing doesn't sound too serios to me, generally, but it would depend on how it sounded. Also, since Smokey is on an antibiotic, I would think it would help any other infections he may have, like a URI. Maybe time will help you to make the decision on whether or not to take him in sooner. Prayers going to to Smokey. Please keep us posted. :) Wendy __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Another Update on Smokey/Hemobartanella info.
Dee, Count your blessings as Hemobartanella is extremely hard to find on a slide at the lab and can be treated. That's what's causing the low blood count most assuredly. Here's info. from vetinfo.com: A cat with hemobartonellosis experiences depression, weight loss, decrease in appetite and anemia. There may be jaundice associated with this and approximately one-third of untreated cats will die from the infection. Cats that recover are usually infected for life but the organism is suppressed by the cat's immune system. Subsequent immune compromise from viruses like feline leukemia, stress or administration of corticosteroids cause a recurrence of the infection. The disease is probably transmitted by blood sucking insects and from infected mothers to their kittens during pregnancy. It may be possible to transmit from bite wounds and blood transfusions as well. The organism is visible in blood smears of infected cats but it has a tendency to come and go in the blood stream so it is sometimes necessary to make blood smears over the course of several days to identify the parasite. It can be treated with tetracycline class antibiotics with good success but even treated cats should be considered to be carriers of the disease and may experience recurrences later. Supportive care is often necessary for several days in cats with this condition and during the acute infection if may be necessary to use corticosteroids despite the immune suppression associated with these medications. It is very important to control fleas and other blood sucking organisms in a multiple cat household in which one member is found to have hemobartonellosis. It is a good idea to occasionally do followup bloodwork to make sure anemia is not recurring. Mike Richards, DVM Dee, this is not some horrible infection. It's treatable, although not curable. Don't freak out over it. None of us here freak out over it; we're more relieved when that's what's causing anemia because many times it's not diagnosed, and the cats die from anemia. Mine did. He was tested for hemo, but of course came back neg. This was before I knew how hard it is to find on a slide. Had I known, we would have tried doxy anyway, and he might still be here today. I am not sure what caused his anemia, but I will be damn sure from now on that anyone else who posts here on anemia has the info. on hemobart and doxy. As far as the probiotics goes, I have never used them with my kitties, but others here have. Post to the group about this with the subject line probiotics question or something like that, and you should get good info. on this. Sorry I can't be of more help to you. :) Wendy __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Another Update on Smokey
The reason 1/3 die from it is it is VERY hard to diagnose and some cats will have it and get a negative test result and not get the treatment, I have never heard of a cat getting the correct treatment (doxy is preferred to treat it, though some cats need a 6 week course to eradicate it) ever dying from it. Any one else heard of that??? I alwyas treat if there is the slightest suspicion that my cat has it no matter what the test results are, I've known people who's cats have had 5 and even 6 negative tests but the cat actually had it!! The feline leukemia home page says it is a contagious disease, 1/3 of cats die from it, the ones who don't will have it for life. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: Smokey Update Condolences
Dee, Wow! What an improvement in the weight! Bless you for taking care of this little furbaby. I know he is SOO thankful for you guys! You might consider giving him probiotics to supply him with the good bacteria that the Baytril will wipe out while he is on it. I hope you get some good suggestions on pilling him. I'm not very good at it either. I hate that frothing at the mouth you wrote about! No matter how many times it happens, it always freaks me out!!! I would definitely stick to the L-lysine and Interferon to supplement him. Really good stuff-both of them! The only thing I can think of adding to that regimine would be Vitamin C. Watch the dose though. You might want to research that some. Your email made my day! Prayers going out to your little trooper! :) Wendy __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
RE: Smokey Update Condolences
I hate that frothing at the mouth you wrote about! No matter how many times it happens, it always freaks me out!!! Ugh. We had our Missy do that just last night, while she was still in my arms from the pilling session. Sensitive-stomach housemate goes running from the room, and I, who have let her down in a hurry, run after her with a Kleenex before the leaves a rope of goop on the furniture. Fun times!! Yes, I will be asking about transdermal next vet visit. Diane R. This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties.
Another Update on Smokey
We got a called from our vet today on the results of Smokey's lab work that was sent away since their equipment could not read his blood. His red blood cell count is at 30, 29 is at the edge of low for anemia, so he just missed that. But she had more bad news about the little guy. He has the parasite Hemobartonella Telis (Hemobartinella). The vet said he will have to be on antibiotic (Doxycycline) for at least three more weeks to battle this parasite. Does anyone else have any experience dealing with this? The feline leukemia home page says it is a contagious disease, 1/3 of cats die from it, the ones who don't will have it for life. Once again I'm freaking out! We are to consult with the vet tomorrow on a game plan for Smokey. Wendy, you had said something about putting him on probiotics. What is probiotics? Can you give me a name brand, dosage, etc I can ask our vet about when we consult with her tomorrow? I want to put him on at least the Interferone Lysine but I don't know if this will be too much with the long regiment of antibiotics he will be taking. How much should I worry about my other cats? Everyone is on Frontline Plus. Just when you think the little guy is going to turn the corner something like this happens Any information or advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
Re: Another Update on Smokey
Actually with a leukemia cat hemobart is better news than non regenerative anemia. At least it can be treated. I haven't dealt with it myself, but many on the list have. with good results.tonyaDee Evan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We got a called from our vet today on the results of Smokey's lab work that was sent away since their equipment could not read his blood. His red blood cell count is at 30, 29 is at the edge of low for anemia, so he just missed that. But she had more bad news about the little guy. He has the parasite Hemobartonella Telis (Hemobartinella). The vet said he will have to be on antibiotic (Doxycycline) for at least three more weeks to battle this parasite. Does anyone else have any experience dealing with this? The feline leukemia home page says it is a contagious disease, 1/3 of cats die from it, the ones who don't will have it for life. Once again I'm freaking out! We are to consult with the vet tomorrow on a "game plan" for Smokey. Wendy, you had said something about putting him on probiotics. What is probiotics? Can you give me a name brand, dosage, etc I can ask our vet about when we consult with her tomorrow? I want to put him on at least the Interferone Lysine but I don't know if this will be too much with the long regiment of antibiotics he will be taking. How much should I worry about my other cats? Everyone is on Frontline Plus. Just when you think the little guy is going to turn the corner something like this happensAny information or advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
Re: Another update on Smokey
Hi, Bandy had to stay on doxy for awhile until they ruled out hemobart. He was also on Lysine and interferon, baytril and pred at the same time...I just made sure that I gave him food before and after the doxy..something about it irritating them..Usually, I would give him his interferon right after I gave him the doxy so I was sure it went down..I think Nina told me to put it in some nutrical or a/d or something like that to make sure it went down and wouldn't irritate his stomach or esophagus. I know he stayed on the doxy for over a month...I think when they have hemobart, they stay on it for along time..Bandy seems to do well on all the supplements...I just add them to every meal..and I feed him wet food at least 4 times a day and all the dry he can eat. Kerry, Bandy and Inky Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail.
Smokey Update Condolences
First of all, I just wanted to take a moment to send my condolences to everyone that have lost their cherished little ones. They leave their little tiny paw prints in every heart that they touch while here on this Earth. So sorry to hear of each every one of your losses. I just wish I could do more for Smokey. When cats have this disease they can be so fragile unpredictable. They could live for only a few days or yearsthey can tank in a matter of hours. You never know what the future holds. Soon I am hoping to update our website to include pictures of the little guy. If I can get this task completed I'll add a link later for anyone who wants to visit our website. _Update_: We took him back to the vet on Tuesday, 08/15/06 for a recheck. The vet guesses he is between 2 to 3 years old. He is still too weak to vacinate for rabies,etc. or get neutured. He weighed only 4 1/2 pounds when we took him into the vet on 08/01/06. As of his last vet visit on Tuesday 08/15/06 he now weighs 7 1/2 pounds. He has gained three pounds in the 14+ days we've taken care of him! He no longer has a fever his diarrhea has let up (except when he is taking his antibiotics). I am no longer Sub-Qing him his 2nd dose of wormer was given to him this morning, 08/17/06. We were concerned about his fast breathing. The vet said she was worried about fluid around the lungs or in his chest. So we had blood work done x-rays taken. The blood work had to be sent away because our local vet's machines can't read his blood properly. The vet said this can happen due to the feline leukemia. The only reading they got on his blood is that one of his liver function levels is very high, 245. I'm not sure which one but I think the high end of normal was 111. The vet diagnosed him with a slight pnuemonia due to the lungs having a fluffy cotton look to them, not clear. He is now only on one, new antibiotic, beef flavored Baytril, due to the slight pnuemonia. The vet is suppose to get back to me with his blood work results and starting him on a regiment of Interferone L-Lysine. He is a little trooper. Has anyone else ever used this Baytril how did you get it into your little one? I am having a heck of a time getting it into him. I'm usually a pro at giving cats pills but not this time. I tried mixing it in his food (canned cat food tuna).that only worked once. I tried the old fashioned route of just popping it in his mouth. He acts like he is choking, screams, spits it out. My last resort the way I am getting it into him right now is: crushing the pill, putting it in a syringe, adding liquid, squirting it into his mouth. This causes him to froth at the mouth horribly, works him up, he runs around the room drooling everywhere. He gets so mad at me.I don't want him to feel upset every time he sees me now. I just don't know any other way to get it into him. Any ideas? I actually have to go into the vet get more pills because I've wasted three of them. Do any of you have any suggestions on an immunity boosting regiment I can start him on in addition to or instead of the Interferone L-Lysine, slowly at first? This is new territory for me so I really can't tell if he is doing good for his circumstances or if I should be preparing for the worst. Please send all your good vibes to Smokey right now. He needs all he can get. Thanks a bunch! ~Dee
Re: Smokey Update Condolences
baytril comes in a flavored chewable form that some cats take readily--talk to your vet about that i have persians, who are a real pain to pill because of their tiny little mouths--hard to even do the pop-the-mouth-open-shove-pill-to-back-of-throat trick cuz there's no ROOM in there whenever possible, i use the injectible meds, because they don't seem to mind that nearly as much (and i swear they get a huge kick out of making mommy chase them around the house with a loaded syringe). while not all meds come in injectible forms, baytril certainly is one that does On 8/19/06, Dee Evan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: First of all, I just wanted to take a moment to send my condolences to everyone that have lost their cherished little ones. They leave their little tiny paw prints in every heart that they touch while here on this Earth. So sorry to hear of each every one of your losses. I just wish I could do more for Smokey. When cats have this disease they can be so fragile unpredictable. They could live for only a few days or yearsthey can tank in a matter of hours. You never know what the future holds. Soon I am hoping to update our website to include pictures of the little guy. If I can get this task completed I'll add a link later for anyone who wants to visit our website. _Update_: We took him back to the vet on Tuesday, 08/15/06 for a recheck. The vet guesses he is between 2 to 3 years old. He is still too weak to vacinate for rabies,etc. or get neutured. He weighed only 4 1/2 pounds when we took him into the vet on 08/01/06. As of his last vet visit on Tuesday 08/15/06 he now weighs 7 1/2 pounds. He has gained three pounds in the 14+ days we've taken care of him! He no longer has a fever his diarrhea has let up (except when he is taking his antibiotics). I am no longer Sub-Qing him his 2nd dose of wormer was given to him this morning, 08/17/06. We were concerned about his fast breathing. The vet said she was worried about fluid around the lungs or in his chest. So we had blood work done x-rays taken. The blood work had to be sent away because our local vet's machines can't read his blood properly. The vet said this can happen due to the feline leukemia. The only reading they got on his blood is that one of his liver function levels is very high, 245. I'm not sure which one but I think the high end of normal was 111. The vet diagnosed him with a slight pnuemonia due to the lungs having a fluffy cotton look to them, not clear. He is now only on one, new antibiotic, beef flavored Baytril, due to the slight pnuemonia. The vet is suppose to get back to me with his blood work results and starting him on a regiment of Interferone L-Lysine. He is a little trooper. Has anyone else ever used this Baytril how did you get it into your little one? I am having a heck of a time getting it into him. I'm usually a pro at giving cats pills but not this time. I tried mixing it in his food (canned cat food tuna).that only worked once. I tried the old fashioned route of just popping it in his mouth. He acts like he is choking, screams, spits it out. My last resort the way I am getting it into him right now is: crushing the pill, putting it in a syringe, adding liquid, squirting it into his mouth. This causes him to froth at the mouth horribly, works him up, he runs around the room drooling everywhere. He gets so mad at me.I don't want him to feel upset every time he sees me now. I just don't know any other way to get it into him. Any ideas? I actually have to go into the vet get more pills because I've wasted three of them. Do any of you have any suggestions on an immunity boosting regiment I can start him on in addition to or instead of the Interferone L-Lysine, slowly at first? This is new territory for me so I really can't tell if he is doing good for his circumstances or if I should be preparing for the worst. Please send all your good vibes to Smokey right now. He needs all he can get. Thanks a bunch! ~Dee -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
Re: Smokey Update Condolences
I'm not qualified to answer many of your questions - but I can't help but think that the significant weight gain is a very good sign. I always try to get liquid meds when I can since we have the technique down here...but as to pills, in my view - the quicker you can get the business over with - the better. There is a tool the vet gave me - a piller...long post kind of thing (about pencil length)that grips the pill and thenreleases it at the very back of their throat when you push the end. Pop that thing in and massage their throat so that they do swallow it down and just 'git er done'. There's just no pretty way to do it, I think...but quicker is better. Hold kitty for a minute or so afterward - don't let them bolt until you say "all done!" in a very happy and positive voice. praise them greatly and give treats. I hope so much that Smokey will continue to improve. The Acemannan worked great for Mama Kitty -- I don't know if it is back on the market since the USDA audit though... In a message dated 8/19/2006 10:07:47 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: First of all, I just wanted to take a moment to send my condolences to everyone that have lost their cherished little ones. They leave their little tiny paw prints in every heart that they touch while here on this Earth. So sorry to hear of each every one of your losses.I just wish I could do more for Smokey. When cats have this disease they can be so fragile unpredictable. They could live for only a few days or yearsthey can tank in a matter of hours. You never know what the future holds. Soon I am hoping to update our website to include pictures of the little guy. If I can get this task completed I'll add a link later for anyone who wants to visit our website._Update_: We took him back to the vet on Tuesday, 08/15/06 for a recheck. The vet guesses he is between 2 to 3 years old. He is still too weak to vacinate for rabies,etc. or get neutured. He weighed only 4 1/2 pounds when we took him into the vet on 08/01/06. As of his last vet visit on Tuesday 08/15/06 he now weighs 7 1/2 pounds. He has gained three pounds in the 14+ days we've taken care of him! He no longer has a fever his diarrhea has let up (except when he is taking his antibiotics). I am no longer Sub-Qing him his 2nd dose of wormer was given to him this morning, 08/17/06. We were concerned about his fast breathing. The vet said she was worried about fluid around the lungs or in his chest. So we had blood work done x-rays taken. The blood work had to be sent away because our local vet's machines can't read his blood properly. The vet said this can happen due to the feline leukemia. The only reading they got on his blood is that one of his liver function levels is very high, 245. I'm not sure which one but I think the high end of normal was 111. The vet diagnosed him with a slight pnuemonia due to the lungs having a fluffy cotton look to them, not clear. He is now only on one, new antibiotic, beef flavored Baytril, due to the slight pnuemonia. The vet is suppose to get back to me with his blood work results and starting him on a regiment of Interferone L-Lysine. He is a little trooper.Has anyone else ever used this Baytril how did you get it into your little one? I am having a heck of a time getting it into him. I'm usually a "pro" at giving cats pills but not this time. I tried mixing it in his food (canned cat food tuna).that only worked once. I tried the old fashioned route of just popping it in his mouth. He acts like he is choking, screams, spits it out. My last resort the way I am getting it into him right now is: crushing the pill, putting it in a syringe, adding liquid, squirting it into his mouth. This causes him to froth at the mouth horribly, works him up, he runs around the room drooling everywhere. He gets so mad at me.I don't want him to feel upset every time he sees me now. I just don't know any other way to get it into him. Any ideas? I actually have to go into the vet get more pills because I've wasted three of them.Do any of you have any suggestions on an immunity boosting regiment I can start him on in addition to or instead of the Interferone L-Lysine, slowly at first?This is new territory for me so I really can't tell if he is doing good for his circumstances or if I should be preparing for the worst. Please send all your good vibes to Smokey right now. He needs all he can get. Thanks a bunch!~Dee
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Dee, I very, very strongly recommend giving him Immuno-Regulin (See articles on www.felineleukemia.org website). It helped my Patches recover from pneumonia quickly. I think I only got her 1 shot. With Ginger it took 2 to get rid of a bad URI. Others have had good results with it too. It is an intense immune stimulant. Michelle
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Hi Dee, It's good to hear that Smokey is improving, that's quite a significant weight gain. If he was dehydrated before, I wonder how much of it is fluids. Prayers that he quickly improves completely. As to the Baytril... It's a broader spectrum abx. I've used it before with my guys. I got the stuff that MC is talking about that is suppose to be chewable. Ha! Maybe a dog would eat it, but my cats looked at me as if I'd lost my mind. Grinding it up and mixing it with food didn't work either. I've gotten to be pretty good with a piller, (unfortunately I've had lots of practice), but I found a new trick that I was able to use to dose 3 cats at the same time, (yeah, when it rains it pours). Anyway, this works as long as the cat has an appetite. Go get yourself some Pill Pockets, they sell them at most pet stores. They have different flavors, so use the one that you think Smokey would like the best. Take the pill pocket and use just enough to mold it around the pill, (about half of the regular pill pocket), cover it just enough so that Smokey can't taste it, or get wise if he bites into it slightly. If the pills are too large, then cut them in half. Hide the pill covered in pill pocket in a SMALL pile of something really yummy and smelly, like tuna. I used chicken chunks because I could make them the same size as the pill pocket and thought it would work better, turns out they'll eat them even in baby food. Make sure you roll the pill pocketed pill in whatever you're feeding so it picks up the flavor. I held my breath the first few times I tried this. It got to the point that I'd put the treat down and walk away, coming back only to check that the pill was eaten. Maybe it's because I made such a fuss about it being treat time. Some people have had success with the whole pill pocket given like a treat, (that's the way they are intended to be used), but again, my guys thought I was crazy. Do remember whenever you pill a cat, either with you finger or a piller, you should chase it with at least a couple of ccs of water in a feeding syringe. If you can make sure they lap some tuna water, or eat a treat afterward, that would do it too. You just want to make sure the pill goes all the way down their throat. This is esp important with something that has a corrosive quality like Doxycycline. Good luck, keep us posted, Nina Dee Evan wrote: First of all, I just wanted to take a moment to send my condolences to everyone that have lost their cherished little ones. They leave their little tiny paw prints in every heart that they touch while here on this Earth. So sorry to hear of each every one of your losses. I just wish I could do more for Smokey. When cats have this disease they can be so fragile unpredictable. They could live for only a few days or yearsthey can tank in a matter of hours. You never know what the future holds. Soon I am hoping to update our website to include pictures of the little guy. If I can get this task completed I'll add a link later for anyone who wants to visit our website. _Update_: We took him back to the vet on Tuesday, 08/15/06 for a recheck. The vet guesses he is between 2 to 3 years old. He is still too weak to vacinate for rabies,etc. or get neutured. He weighed only 4 1/2 pounds when we took him into the vet on 08/01/06. As of his last vet visit on Tuesday 08/15/06 he now weighs 7 1/2 pounds. He has gained three pounds in the 14+ days we've taken care of him! He no longer has a fever his diarrhea has let up (except when he is taking his antibiotics). I am no longer Sub-Qing him his 2nd dose of wormer was given to him this morning, 08/17/06. We were concerned about his fast breathing. The vet said she was worried about fluid around the lungs or in his chest. So we had blood work done x-rays taken. The blood work had to be sent away because our local vet's machines can't read his blood properly. The vet said this can happen due to the feline leukemia. The only reading they got on his blood is that one of his liver function levels is very high, 245. I'm not sure which one but I think the high end of normal was 111. The vet diagnosed him with a slight pnuemonia due to the lungs having a fluffy cotton look to them, not clear. He is now only on one, new antibiotic, beef flavored Baytril, due to the slight pnuemonia. The vet is suppose to get back to me with his blood work results and starting him on a regiment of Interferone L-Lysine. He is a little trooper. Has anyone else ever used this Baytril how did you get it into your little one? I am having a heck of a time getting it into him. I'm usually a pro at giving cats pills but not this time. I tried mixing it in his food (canned cat food tuna).that only worked once. I tried the old fashioned route of just popping it in his mouth. He acts like he is choking, screams, spits it out. My
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I took in a stray which I named Smokey too. I had him tested before I brought him into the household. He tested negative. He was in contact with 4 of my other cats. They ate after one another and used the same litter boxes. My other 4 cats had been vaccinated against felv. After about 3 months Smokey started getting fevers. After many many visits to the vet they decided to test him again this time he was positive. I had my other cats tested and retested 3 months later they were all negative. I had to change vets because the one I had been going to talked about euthanasia but I couldn't do that to him. I found a new vet for Smokey and he is doing good right now. This new vet told me that felv isn't as contagious as people are led to believe. You are doing a good thing for your Smokey. You are giving him a chance to have a life. I too use to wash and wash my hand before and after going into my Smokey's room but I don't do that as much now. Remember you are doing a wonderful thing for your Smokey. Cindy Reasoner --- Dee Evan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am the guardian from Western Pennsylvania with 10+ cats (oldest ages 17-female 13-male), with a newly diagnosed FeLV+ stray, now named Smokey. I want to thank everyone for your comments of support. I am very grateful. I am still on my quest to find a new home or foster parent for him (if we can get him stabilized) . My support where I live is very poor limited. Both vets I have talked to have given the 1st option of euthanasia because I will just be throwing money down the tubes to treat him as put by one of the vets. I even had to make the suggestion of Pet-Tenic for him (6 days after the vet visit) after reading the Feline Leukemia website. I am freaking out about exposure to my other 10 cats since the vets keep telling me he is highly contageous! The boosters on my other 10 cats are due here in August so I have a vet coming out on Wednesday, 08/09/06 to administer the boosters. I don't even wear the same clothes around my other cats (I place them in a plastic bag to use again, high enough for my other cats not to reach). I use Lysol spray, Clorox wipes, Germ-X hand sanitzier, etc. I even go to the extreme of taking a shower after visiting Smokey. Sometimes I have to hold the tears back at work break down cry when I finally get home. I am panic stricken over this whole situation not sure what the right thing to do is. Smokey has a right to a chance for life ~ I cannot chose to euthanize him just becuase he is sick, it is not his fault. Although I do understand there will probably be a time where there is nothing more I can do. I have limited finances, I am not a Rockefellar, but I am not ready to give up yet. Help! Can anyone give me some more words of wisdom experience? Thank you. *_Smokey's Situation_:* We have only known Smokey for less than 4 weeks. I do not know how old he is. As far as I can tell he is not neutured. He is too weak to even vacinate for rabies,etc. He is only 4 1/2 pounds. He has diarrhea (although it is somewhat better but not anywhere close to where his stool should be). He seems to be running a slight fever. His appetite is very good. I wish he would drink more water so I am going to make him homemade chicken broth. I Sub-Q 1/2 to 1 unit of IV every other day, every day if he lets me. He is wormed ~ I will need to worm him again in 8 days. He is on three antibiotics (two oral liquids one for his ears). He had a bacterial ear infection. He is a very loving, warm soul. I have him isolated in a bedroom from the other 10 cats. I have a laundry basket in front of the door a towel w/a 2x4 piece of wood at the bottom so there is no contact with the other cats. We live in an old farm house. So I cannot install a window air conditioner because the electrical outlets are only two-prong, ungrounded. There is a fan in his room. ~Dee __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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Hi Dee For months, I was paranoid and did everything you're doing, too (except showering post-visit--I never did that)--change of clothes, wearing scrubs, and shoes (yup, kept high, behind closed closet door), wdn't let my neg cats touch me till I'd changed clothes again, washing hands with anti-bacterial soap, never using the new fresh litter that was stored in the pos room for my neg cats even when I ran out of the non-contaminated litter for my neg cats. (I'd go out and buy more.) Etc, etc. Somewhere along the way, after all the input from this group, and some other reading, I realized it just wasn't necessary! I threw away the scrubs stopped worrying. The only precaution I continued was to keep the door of their room shut so that my neg, non-vaccinated cats couldn't mix with them. Forgive me if I told you this already, but there was one neg cat that came with the colony of positives, and I kept her with them--it would have been too cruel to separate her, especially as she was so scared, AND had already been exposed anyway. After 4 of the 5 positives passed away, I re-tested her this May and she has stayed negative. And she has never been FeLV vaccinated! And she shared everything with them---food water bowls and litter boxes. She is a walking example of the fact that FeLV is NOT as contagious as many--including vets- believe. The 5th pos, who obviously also shared everything, threw off the virus and is now also neg. You are doing everything right for Smoky--doing the best you can for him, within your means. One suggestion: print off all the reassuring answers you got from list members who, like you, live with negs and positives and post them in an obvious place so you can read and re-read them, especially when you start to feel anxious. It's also very important for Smoky that he gets good vibes from you! Take care, you're doing a great job, Dee. Bless you! Kerry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dee Evan Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2006 11:48 AM To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Smokey I am the guardian from Western Pennsylvania with 10+ cats (oldest ages 17-female 13-male), with a newly diagnosed FeLV+ stray, now named Smokey. I want to thank everyone for your comments of support. I am very grateful. I am still on my quest to find a new home or foster parent for him (if we can get him stabilized) . My support where I live is very poor limited. Both vets I have talked to have given the 1st option of euthanasia because I will just be throwing money down the tubes to treat him as put by one of the vets. I even had to make the suggestion of Pet-Tenic for him (6 days after the vet visit) after reading the Feline Leukemia website. I am freaking out about exposure to my other 10 cats since the vets keep telling me he is highly contageous! The boosters on my other 10 cats are due here in August so I have a vet coming out on Wednesday, 08/09/06 to administer the boosters. I don't even wear the same clothes around my other cats (I place them in a plastic bag to use again, high enough for my other cats not to reach). I use Lysol spray, Clorox wipes, Germ-X hand sanitzier, etc. I even go to the extreme of taking a shower after visiting Smokey. Sometimes I have to hold the tears back at work break down cry when I finally get home. I am panic stricken over this whole situation not sure what the right thing to do is. Smokey has a right to a chance for life ~ I cannot chose to euthanize him just becuase he is sick, it is not his fault. Although I do understand there will probably be a time where there is nothing more I can do. I have limited finances, I am not a Rockefellar, but I am not ready to give up yet. Help! Can anyone give me some more words of wisdom experience? Thank you. *_Smokey's Situation_:* We have only known Smokey for less than 4 weeks. I do not know how old he is. As far as I can tell he is not neutured. He is too weak to even vacinate for rabies,etc. He is only 4 1/2 pounds. He has diarrhea (although it is somewhat better but not anywhere close to where his stool should be). He seems to be running a slight fever. His appetite is very good. I wish he would drink more water so I am going to make him homemade chicken broth. I Sub-Q 1/2 to 1 unit of IV every other day, every day if he lets me. He is wormed ~ I will need to worm him again in 8 days. He is on three antibiotics (two oral liquids one for his ears). He had a bacterial ear infection. He is a very loving, warm soul. I have him isolated in a bedroom from the other 10 cats. I have a laundry basket in front of the door a towel w/a 2x4 piece of wood at the bottom so there is no contact with the other cats. We live in an old farm house. So I cannot install a window air conditioner because the electrical outlets are only two-prong, ungrounded. There is a fan in his room. ~Dee IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE
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I am the guardian from Western Pennsylvania with 10+ cats (oldest ages 17-female 13-male), with a newly diagnosed FeLV+ stray, now named Smokey. I want to thank everyone for your comments of support. I am very grateful. I am still on my quest to find a new home or foster parent for him (if we can get him stabilized) . My support where I live is very poor limited. Both vets I have talked to have given the 1st option of euthanasia because I will just be throwing money down the tubes to treat him as put by one of the vets. I even had to make the suggestion of Pet-Tenic for him (6 days after the vet visit) after reading the Feline Leukemia website. I am freaking out about exposure to my other 10 cats since the vets keep telling me he is highly contageous! The boosters on my other 10 cats are due here in August so I have a vet coming out on Wednesday, 08/09/06 to administer the boosters. I don't even wear the same clothes around my other cats (I place them in a plastic bag to use again, high enough for my other cats not to reach). I use Lysol spray, Clorox wipes, Germ-X hand sanitzier, etc. I even go to the extreme of taking a shower after visiting Smokey. Sometimes I have to hold the tears back at work break down cry when I finally get home. I am panic stricken over this whole situation not sure what the right thing to do is. Smokey has a right to a chance for life ~ I cannot chose to euthanize him just becuase he is sick, it is not his fault. Although I do understand there will probably be a time where there is nothing more I can do. I have limited finances, I am not a Rockefellar, but I am not ready to give up yet. Help! Can anyone give me some more words of wisdom experience? Thank you. *_Smokey's Situation_:* We have only known Smokey for less than 4 weeks. I do not know how old he is. As far as I can tell he is not neutured. He is too weak to even vacinate for rabies,etc. He is only 4 1/2 pounds. He has diarrhea (although it is somewhat better but not anywhere close to where his stool should be). He seems to be running a slight fever. His appetite is very good. I wish he would drink more water so I am going to make him homemade chicken broth. I Sub-Q 1/2 to 1 unit of IV every other day, every day if he lets me. He is wormed ~ I will need to worm him again in 8 days. He is on three antibiotics (two oral liquids one for his ears). He had a bacterial ear infection. He is a very loving, warm soul. I have him isolated in a bedroom from the other 10 cats. I have a laundry basket in front of the door a towel w/a 2x4 piece of wood at the bottom so there is no contact with the other cats. We live in an old farm house. So I cannot install a window air conditioner because the electrical outlets are only two-prong, ungrounded. There is a fan in his room. ~Dee
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Hello! I don't know if I will be of much help to you as I am pretty new to this also. My Angel kitty tested positive for Felv on July 17 and the vet wanted me to euthanize her. Luckily, I found this support group and I also have spent countless nights searching the internet for information. From what I have learned, the disease is contagious from the saliva and can't exist outside of the cats body for more than a few seconds. So, if you were holding your postive cat and he licked you, by the time you got near your negative cats, it has already died off. I understand your fear...I am also a HUGE jerms freak! LOL! But, from everything I have read, as long as they aren't all sharing food and water dishes and litter boxes, everything should be fine. Good luck to you,KarenDee Evan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am the guardian from Western Pennsylvania with 10+ cats (oldest ages 17-female 13-male), with a newly diagnosed FeLV+ stray, now named Smokey. I want to thank everyone for your comments of support. I am very grateful. I am still on my quest to find a new home or foster parent for him (if we can get him stabilized) . My support where I live is very poor limited. Both vets I have talked to have given the 1st option of euthanasia because I will "just be throwing money down the tubes" to treat him as put by one of the vets. I even had to make the suggestion of Pet-Tenic for him (6 days after the vet visit) after reading the Feline Leukemia website. I am freaking out about exposure to my other 10 cats since the vets keep telling me he is highly contageous! The boosters on my other 10 cats are due here in August so I have a vet coming out on Wednesday, 08/09/06 to administer the boosters. I don't even wear the same clothes around my other cats (I place them in a plastic bag to use again, high enough for my other cats not to reach). I use Lysol spray, Clorox wipes, Germ-X hand sanitzier, etc. I even go to the extreme of taking a shower after visiting Smokey. Sometimes I have to hold the tears back at work break down cry when I finally get home. I am panic stricken over this whole situation not sure what the right thing to do is. Smokey has a right to a chance for life ~ I cannot chose to euthanize him just becuase he is sick, it is not his fault. Although I do understand there will probably be a time where there is nothing more I can do. I have limited finances, I am not a Rockefellar, but I am not ready to give up yet. Help! Can anyone give me some more words of wisdom experience? Thank you.*_Smokey's Situation_:*We have only "known" Smokey for less than 4 weeks.I do not know how old he is.As far as I can tell he is not neutured. He is too weak to even vacinate for rabies,etc.He is only 4 1/2 pounds. He has diarrhea (although it is somewhat better but not anywhere close to where his stool should be). He seems to be running a slight fever.His appetite is very good. I wish he would drink more water so I am going to make him homemade chicken broth. I Sub-Q 1/2 to 1 unit of IV every other day, every day if he lets me. He is wormed ~ I will need to worm him again in 8 days.He is on three antibiotics (two oral liquids one for his ears). He had a bacterial ear infection. He is a very loving, warm soul.I have him isolated in a bedroom from the other 10 cats. I have a laundry basket in front of the door a towel w/a 2x4 piece of wood at the bottom so there is no contact with the other cats. We live in an old farm house. So I cannot install a window air conditioner because the electrical outlets are only two-prong, ungrounded. There is a fan in his room. ~Dee Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less.
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First, it is not as contagious as they are leading you to believe. Secondly, Dixie Louise was tested in June 2005 as an adult cat, and is the picture of perfect health over a year later. My vets believe it is contagious and urged me to use a lot of caution since I had a cat who had been diagnosed with cancer. We certainly did not need to add to her problems. They have told me that the virus dies in a matter of minutes after exposure to air--it dries up. No need, according to my people, to worry about changing clothes or anything like that. Re his condition--try Apple Pectin, pysllium, and/or Fastrack or other probiotics for the diarrhea. I know the Apple Pectin and pysllium are used to relieve constipation but my vets and I have had wonderful luck with it in relieving severe diarrhea in both cats and dogs--including those with bowel disease. The probiotics will help restore bacteria killed by the antibiotics. Good luck. Hang in there. You are doing a really good thing. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Dee Evan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2006 11:47 AM Subject: Smokey I am the guardian from Western Pennsylvania with 10+ cats (oldest ages 17-female 13-male), with a newly diagnosed FeLV+ stray, now named Smokey. I want to thank everyone for your comments of support. I am very grateful. I am still on my quest to find a new home or foster parent for him (if we can get him stabilized) . My support where I live is very poor limited. Both vets I have talked to have given the 1st option of euthanasia because I will just be throwing money down the tubes to treat him as put by one of the vets. I even had to make the suggestion of Pet-Tenic for him (6 days after the vet visit) after reading the Feline Leukemia website. I am freaking out about exposure to my other 10 cats since the vets keep telling me he is highly contageous! The boosters on my other 10 cats are due here in August so I have a vet coming out on Wednesday, 08/09/06 to administer the boosters. I don't even wear the same clothes around my other cats (I place them in a plastic bag to use again, high enough for my other cats not to reach). I use Lysol spray, Clorox wipes, Germ-X hand sanitzier, etc. I even go to the extreme of taking a shower after visiting Smokey. Sometimes I have to hold the tears back at work break down cry when I finally get home. I am panic stricken over this whole situation not sure what the right thing to do is. Smokey has a right to a chance for life ~ I cannot chose to euthanize him just becuase he is sick, it is not his fault. Although I do understand there will probably be a time where there is nothing more I can do. I have limited finances, I am not a Rockefellar, but I am not ready to give up yet. Help! Can anyone give me some more words of wisdom experience? Thank you. *_Smokey's Situation_:* We have only known Smokey for less than 4 weeks. I do not know how old he is. As far as I can tell he is not neutured. He is too weak to even vacinate for rabies,etc. He is only 4 1/2 pounds. He has diarrhea (although it is somewhat better but not anywhere close to where his stool should be). He seems to be running a slight fever. His appetite is very good. I wish he would drink more water so I am going to make him homemade chicken broth. I Sub-Q 1/2 to 1 unit of IV every other day, every day if he lets me. He is wormed ~ I will need to worm him again in 8 days. He is on three antibiotics (two oral liquids one for his ears). He had a bacterial ear infection. He is a very loving, warm soul. I have him isolated in a bedroom from the other 10 cats. I have a laundry basket in front of the door a towel w/a 2x4 piece of wood at the bottom so there is no contact with the other cats. We live in an old farm house. So I cannot install a window air conditioner because the electrical outlets are only two-prong, ungrounded. There is a fan in his room. ~Dee -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.7/409 - Release Date: 8/4/2006
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The virus is very fragile and dies when it contacts the air. I give my guys 30 units of interferon alpha daily, to support the immune system and keep the viral load down. I personally don't worry about the chlorox and lysol stuff, the virus is just not that hearty. I mixed negatives and positives at one time, as some do here, and will again except I have fosters for the rescue, so they're not all my cats. Many vets are really not knowledgeable about this, so offer euth. as the 1st option. Really too bad, too. Best of luck, Gloria On Aug 5, 2006, at 11:47 AM, Dee Evan wrote: I am the guardian from Western Pennsylvania with 10+ cats (oldest ages 17-female 13-male), with a newly diagnosed FeLV+ stray, now named Smokey. I want to thank everyone for your comments of support. I am very grateful. I am still on my quest to find a new home or foster parent for him (if we can get him stabilized) . My support where I live is very poor limited. Both vets I have talked to have given the 1st option of euthanasia because I will just be throwing money down the tubes to treat him as put by one of the vets. I even had to make the suggestion of Pet-Tenic for him (6 days after the vet visit) after reading the Feline Leukemia website. I am freaking out about exposure to my other 10 cats since the vets keep telling me he is highly contageous! The boosters on my other 10 cats are due here in August so I have a vet coming out on Wednesday, 08/09/06 to administer the boosters. I don't even wear the same clothes around my other cats (I place them in a plastic bag to use again, high enough for my other cats not to reach). I use Lysol spray, Clorox wipes, Germ-X hand sanitzier, etc. I even go to the extreme of taking a shower after visiting Smokey. Sometimes I have to hold the tears back at work break down cry when I finally get home. I am panic stricken over this whole situation not sure what the right thing to do is. Smokey has a right to a chance for life ~ I cannot chose to euthanize him just becuase he is sick, it is not his fault. Although I do understand there will probably be a time where there is nothing more I can do. I have limited finances, I am not a Rockefellar, but I am not ready to give up yet. Help! Can anyone give me some more words of wisdom experience? Thank you. *_Smokey's Situation_:* We have only known Smokey for less than 4 weeks. I do not know how old he is. As far as I can tell he is not neutured. He is too weak to even vacinate for rabies,etc. He is only 4 1/2 pounds. He has diarrhea (although it is somewhat better but not anywhere close to where his stool should be). He seems to be running a slight fever. His appetite is very good. I wish he would drink more water so I am going to make him homemade chicken broth. I Sub-Q 1/2 to 1 unit of IV every other day, every day if he lets me. He is wormed ~ I will need to worm him again in 8 days. He is on three antibiotics (two oral liquids one for his ears). He had a bacterial ear infection. He is a very loving, warm soul. I have him isolated in a bedroom from the other 10 cats. I have a laundry basket in front of the door a towel w/a 2x4 piece of wood at the bottom so there is no contact with the other cats. We live in an old farm house. So I cannot install a window air conditioner because the electrical outlets are only two-prong, ungrounded. There is a fan in his room. ~Dee
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Hi Dee,I'm new to the list. I found out that my kitten Pippin had a faint positive result on her FeLV test. (She has a second test coming up in September.)I will share what my vet said. As long as I keep her litter box and food/water bowls separate from my other cats, she can have contact with my three cats.My vetdid not feel that the casual contact was a problem.Here is something that I read thatsupports thebelief that it is not easily transmitted:From Cat Chat http://www.catchat.org/leukaemia.html"... As a general principle, healthy FeLV positive cats should be re-homed to households without other cats (certainly without kittens). However, this should not be adhered to so strictly that the welfare of the individual cat is forgotten, since the risk of transmission between adult cats is actually quite small. 85% develop their own immunity to Feline Leukaemia, but if they have not been tested for this, or they are tested and found to have no immunity, they may be vaccinated against it, and that apart, they are simply not easily infected with the virus."I think it is a good thingyou are doing caring for Smokey.Take care,Gina in CA Dee Evan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am the guardian from Western Pennsylvania with 10+ cats (oldest ages 17-female 13-male), with a newly diagnosed FeLV+ stray, now named Smokey. I want to thank everyone for your comments of support. I am very grateful. I am still on my quest to find a new home or foster parent for him (if we can get him stabilized) . My support where I live is very poor limited. Both vets I have talked to have given the 1st option of euthanasia because I will "just be throwing money down the tubes" to treat him as put by one of the vets. I even had to make the suggestion of Pet-Tenic for him (6 days after the vet visit) after reading the Feline Leukemia website. I am freaking out about exposure to my other 10 cats since the vets keep telling me he is highly contageous! The boosters on my other 10 cats are due here in August so I have a vet coming out on Wednesday, 08/09/06 to administer the boosters. I don't even wear the same clothes around my other cats (I place them in a plastic bag to use again, high enough for my other cats not to reach). I use Lysol spray, Clorox wipes, Germ-X hand sanitzier, etc. I even go to the extreme of taking a shower after visiting Smokey. Sometimes I have to hold the tears back at work break down cry when I finally get home. I am panic stricken over this whole situation not sure what the right thing to do is. Smokey has a right to a chance for life ~ I cannot chose to euthanize him just becuase he is sick, it is not his fault. Although I do understand there will probably be a time where there is nothing more I can do. I have limited finances, I am not a Rockefellar, but I am not ready to give up yet. Help! Can anyone give me some more words of wisdom experience? Thank you.*_Smokey's Situation_:*We have only "known" Smokey for less than 4 weeks.I do not know how old he is.As far as I can tell he is not neutured. He is too weak to even vacinate for rabies,etc.He is only 4 1/2 pounds. He has diarrhea (although it is somewhat better but not anywhere close to where his stool should be). He seems to be running a slight fever.His appetite is very good. I wish he would drink more water so I am going to make him homemade chicken broth. I Sub-Q 1/2 to 1 unit of IV every other day, every day if he lets me. He is wormed ~ I will need to worm him again in 8 days.He is on three antibiotics (two oral liquids one for his ears). He had a bacterial ear infection. He is a very loving, warm soul.I have him isolated in a bedroom from the other 10 cats. I have a laundry basket in front of the door a towel w/a 2x4 piece of wood at the bottom so there is no contact with the other cats. We live in an old farm house. So I cannot install a window air conditioner because the electrical outlets are only two-prong, ungrounded. There is a fan in his room. ~DeeNo heaven wil not ever Heaven be Unless my cats are there to welcome me.--epitaph in a pet cemetery Tiggertales ~ a site about our beloved felines Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min.
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I just wanted to let everyone know that Smokey is still doing good. He is still getting 2 injections per week of equistim. He has gained some weight he is up to 6lbs.4oz. from 5lbs.8oz. I am still giving him the Pet Tinic and he has been going to the vet every 2 weeks to get a steroid injection. I can't remember the name of it but it begins with a W. He is eating great, he is playing, and he seems happy. I am keeping my fingers crossed. We never tried the interferon again. Since he is doing good now should I ask the vet about it? Cindy __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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He's probably getting Winstrol to stimulate his kidneys into making rbc's. It's great that he's gained weight! I don't think the interferon can hurt; in retrospect, I would have given it to Cricket had I known what I know about it now. Glad he's a happy kitty Cindy! :) Wendy --- cindy reasoner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just wanted to let everyone know that Smokey is still doing good. He is still getting 2 injections per week of equistim. He has gained some weight he is up to 6lbs.4oz. from 5lbs.8oz. I am still giving him the Pet Tinic and he has been going to the vet every 2 weeks to get a steroid injection. I can't remember the name of it but it begins with a W. He is eating great, he is playing, and he seems happy. I am keeping my fingers crossed. We never tried the interferon again. Since he is doing good now should I ask the vet about it? Cindy __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
