Re: Test results and an OT question
Missy is absolutely beautiful and I can see why she's your love![EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Oh Kelley! Stop it with that picture of Missy! She's just too > cute for > words, no wonder she's stolen your heart. Don't the tiny, needy > ones > seem to worm their way into a special place in our lives? She is my baby girl! It is very scary to love another living thing this much. I am single and have no children, and Missy is very special to me.I think > it's > fine to wait and bring Missy to your regular vet. Just tell Missy > you're bringing her to show her off, that they will want to pet > her and > tell her how beautiful she is. This doesn't sound like it should > be a > traumatic visit, just an exam, right? I think it will be ok. If he says she can be vaccinated, she will be vaccinated, but my regular vet is so good at vaccinations that my cats don't even notice they have been stuck.Why don't you ask your vet > about > supplements, like CoQ10 for her heart, and maybe Interferon A for > immune > support. A woman I know has had remarkable results with CoQ10, > but she > did say that you shouldn't start and stop that sup, you might want > to > ask him if he knows anything about that too. Maybe someone else > on the > list knows more about it and will let us know. I am making a list of stuff to ask him, thanks!What have you done > for > her URIs? Do they ever resolve themselves completely? She had URI when she came from the shelter (I've had her since she was less than 3 months). She was on Zithro. It resolved completely. By the time I went to get her and her littermates spayed/neutered, she was 4 months and was 4 lb. Her sister was 4.5 and her brother 6. She had no problems with the spay. I took her to my personal vet because she developed conjunctivitis. I expressed concern over her thinness and he told me she was ok, but to feed her fattening stuff to try to get some weight on her. I got her over the conjunctivitis and she got URI again. She was on zithro again, and it resolved. She got it again, and pretty badly, lost a lot of weight and I had to syringe her. She scared me pretty badly this last time. I think she lost probably a whole pound. Now she seems to have it again, but it isn't as bad a case. This is another reason I had her retested. Her immune system just does not seem right at all. I have 4 litters of kittens in my house right now, and they all had URI, but she was the only older cat I have that got it. Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito"My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile."- Anonymous __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Test results and an OT question
> Oh Kelley! Stop it with that picture of Missy! She's just too > cute for > words, no wonder she's stolen your heart. Don't the tiny, needy > ones > seem to worm their way into a special place in our lives? She is my baby girl! It is very scary to love another living thing this much. I am single and have no children, and Missy is very special to me. I think > it's > fine to wait and bring Missy to your regular vet. Just tell Missy > you're bringing her to show her off, that they will want to pet > her and > tell her how beautiful she is. This doesn't sound like it should > be a > traumatic visit, just an exam, right? I think it will be ok. If he says she can be vaccinated, she will be vaccinated, but my regular vet is so good at vaccinations that my cats don't even notice they have been stuck. Why don't you ask your vet > about > supplements, like CoQ10 for her heart, and maybe Interferon A for > immune > support. A woman I know has had remarkable results with CoQ10, > but she > did say that you shouldn't start and stop that sup, you might want > to > ask him if he knows anything about that too. Maybe someone else > on the > list knows more about it and will let us know. I am making a list of stuff to ask him, thanks! What have you done > for > her URIs? Do they ever resolve themselves completely? She had URI when she came from the shelter (I've had her since she was less than 3 months). She was on Zithro. It resolved completely. By the time I went to get her and her littermates spayed/neutered, she was 4 months and was 4 lb. Her sister was 4.5 and her brother 6. She had no problems with the spay. I took her to my personal vet because she developed conjunctivitis. I expressed concern over her thinness and he told me she was ok, but to feed her fattening stuff to try to get some weight on her. I got her over the conjunctivitis and she got URI again. She was on zithro again, and it resolved. She got it again, and pretty badly, lost a lot of weight and I had to syringe her. She scared me pretty badly this last time. I think she lost probably a whole pound. Now she seems to have it again, but it isn't as bad a case. This is another reason I had her retested. Her immune system just does not seem right at all. I have 4 litters of kittens in my house right no w, and they all had URI, but she was the only older cat I have that got it.
Re: Test results and an OT question
Oh Kelley! Stop it with that picture of Missy! She's just too cute for words, no wonder she's stolen your heart. Don't the tiny, needy ones seem to worm their way into a special place in our lives? I think it's fine to wait and bring Missy to your regular vet. Just tell Missy you're bringing her to show her off, that they will want to pet her and tell her how beautiful she is. This doesn't sound like it should be a traumatic visit, just an exam, right? Why don't you ask your vet about supplements, like CoQ10 for her heart, and maybe Interferon A for immune support. A woman I know has had remarkable results with CoQ10, but she did say that you shouldn't start and stop that sup, you might want to ask him if he knows anything about that too. Maybe someone else on the list knows more about it and will let us know. What have you done for her URIs? Do they ever resolve themselves completely? I know there have been list members that have had success with URIs and anemia using something called Immuno-Regulin. You can look it up on our archives for more info, we have discussed it a lot. Personally, I'd hesitate in using it unless the situation were getting desperate, but I thought I'd throw it out there for you to discuss with your vet. Hugs to you, Missy and all your babies, Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Sunday, June 11, 2006 3:43 am Subject: Re: Test results and an OT question To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org OMG Kelley, that's fabulous news about the neg results!! It must be what I said about false positive results, there's no other way to explain it. They were pretty shocked she tested neg after testing pos 3 days ago. I was very happy until I heard about the heart murmur. As far as the heart murmur kitty... What grade murmur did your vet say it was? Many kittens and puppies have slight heart murmurs that resolve themselves as they grow. How old is she? If it's a serious one, there are surgical options that you could consider. My ex-husband adopted an 5 week old kitten that had serious heart problems. They did open heart surgery on this little tiny girl and the vet has assured him that she's going to be fine now. I don't know about neg cats and different size pupils, but I know it's something that does occur with felv kitties and doesn't seem to cause any trouble. Does the vet think that her teeth are curved enough to cause her problems? Well, first of all this was not my vet. This was a vet at the city subsidized shot/combo test/spay/neuter place. I got there 10 minutes before they opened and it was a 4.5 hour wait. I hated to do that to them but since it was 5 tests, I couldn't really afford to go to my vet and have it done (he gives me huge discounts and I love him, but not that huge). This vet listened to her heart, said "This cat has a heart murmur and we can't inoculate it here." She didn't tell me what grade it was, nor offer me any opinion on her teeth other than that they were genetically abnormal. She couldn't believe Missy had been to the vet before, or that she had gotten spayed at Emancipet(I know heart murmur kitties are supposed to have gas anasthesia.) Take another deep breath. You had a terrible fright with the felv test and that turned out, (at least it appears to have), been nothing to worry about. I'm praying that your special love's problems will work themselves out too. What's her name? My babies name is Missy. She's a tiny little girl, and they remarked on her thinness, though I have been feeding her extra fattening stuff and kitten milk and managed to get her to 5.5 pounds. Her immune system seems abnormal, and she gets URI a lot and has to be syringe fed, and then we lose the progress we have gained. That's one reason I had her re-tested, but she has 2 negative results now, one in November and one Saturday. I kept holding her up to my ear all weekend to see if I could hear anything, I know that is silly. She's spoiled rotten, even with the dozens of cats in my house. She spends most of her time in my lap if I am at home and sitting, or following me around if I am not sitting. She gives me kisses if I am really sad...I say she saves them for when I really need them, but I realistically she probably just likes the salt in my tears. Here's a link to her pic: http://www.moonvine.net/missy.jpg She's 8 months now. I have an appointment for her with my real vet on Saturday. I don't want her left all day at the vet feeling abandoned, nor being dragged around in the heat, unless it is a real emergency. Kelley
Re: Test results and an OT question
One of my older negatives has had a heart murmur for years. We had it checked out by a specialist. It's never caused a problem so far... Great news about the negative tests! tonya[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cats can develop heart murmurs JUST from the stress of being at the vet's office (onethey don't actually have normally). Try to find a vet that can come to your home andexamine her without the stress of a car ride and the vet's office.You might get some good support from the Handicats2 yahoogroup... they have all kindsof disabilities there.http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HANDICATS2/ is the URL.PhaewrynPLEASE Adopt a cat from Little Cheetah Cat Rescue!!!http://ucat.us/adopt.htmlDONATE: We could really use a power saw (for construction), a digital camera (forpictures) and HOMES for CATS!-- No virus found in this outgoing message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.3/360 - Release Date: 6/9/2006
Re: Test results and an OT question
- Original Message - From: Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Sunday, June 11, 2006 3:43 am Subject: Re: Test results and an OT question To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > OMG Kelley, that's fabulous news about the neg results!! It must > be > what I said about false positive results, there's no other way to > explain it. They were pretty shocked she tested neg after testing pos 3 days ago. I was very happy until I heard about the heart murmur. > > As far as the heart murmur kitty... What grade murmur did your > vet say > it was? Many kittens and puppies have slight heart murmurs that > resolve > themselves as they grow. How old is she? If it's a serious one, > there > are surgical options that you could consider. My ex-husband > adopted an > 5 week old kitten that had serious heart problems. They did open > heart > surgery on this little tiny girl and the vet has assured him that > she's > going to be fine now. I don't know about neg cats and different > size > pupils, but I know it's something that does occur with felv > kitties and > doesn't seem to cause any trouble. Does the vet think that her > teeth > are curved enough to cause her problems? Well, first of all this was not my vet. This was a vet at the city subsidized shot/combo test/spay/neuter place. I got there 10 minutes before they opened and it was a 4.5 hour wait. I hated to do that to them but since it was 5 tests, I couldn't really afford to go to my vet and have it done (he gives me huge discounts and I love him, but not that huge). This vet listened to her heart, said "This cat has a heart murmur and we can't inoculate it here." She didn't tell me what grade it was, nor offer me any opinion on her teeth other than that they were genetically abnormal. She couldn't believe Missy had been to the vet before, or that she had gotten spayed at Emancipet(I know heart murmur kitties are supposed to have gas anasthesia.) Take another deep > breath. You > had a terrible fright with the felv test and that turned out, (at > least > it appears to have), been nothing to worry about. I'm praying > that your > special love's problems will work themselves out too. What's her > name? My babies name is Missy. She's a tiny little girl, and they remarked on her thinness, though I have been feeding her extra fattening stuff and kitten milk and managed to get her to 5.5 pounds. Her immune system seems abnormal, and she gets URI a lot and has to be syringe fed, and then we lose the progress we have gained. That's one reason I had her re-tested, but she has 2 negative results now, one in November and one Saturday. I kept holding her up to my ear all weekend to see if I could hear anything, I know that is silly. She's spoiled rotten, even with the dozens of cats in my house. She spends most of her time in my lap if I am at home and sitting, or following me around if I am not sitting. She gives me kisses if I am really sad...I say she saves them for when I really need them, but I realistically she probably just likes the salt in my tears. Here's a link to her pic: http://www.moonvine.net/missy.jpg She's 8 months now. I have an appointment for her with my real vet on Saturday. I don't want her left all day at the vet feeling abandoned, nor being dragged around in the heat, unless it is a real emergency. Kelley
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Ace is a dangerous drug used in cats but not one I would ever recommend. Especially for a cat with heart issues, I would NOT ever use any tranquilizers. We recently discussed the use of ACE in cats on one of the lists I am on... must not have been this one though. The consensus was to NOT use it though (and this was for a healthy cat just for a trip). http://www.marvistavet.com/html/body_acepromazine.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acepromazine http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phenothiazine (oh, did I mention it's MADE out of a pesticide?) http://a1272.g.akamai.net/7/1272/1121/20050919193122/www.drsfostersmith.com/Rx_Info_Sheets/rx_acepromazine.pdf (this is the patient info sheet, just like you get when you pick up a prescription for yourself, most vets do NOT provide these for meds prescribed to your pets... makes you wonder why, doesn't it?) http://www.wedgewoodpharmacy.com/monographs/AcepromazineMaleate.asp Phaewryn PLEASE Adopt a cat from Little Cheetah Cat Rescue!!! http://ucat.us/adopt.html DONATE: We could really use a power saw (for construction), a digital camera (for pictures) and HOMES for CATS! -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.3/360 - Release Date: 6/9/2006
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So glad your little one retested neg! I agree with your vet about retesting your other cats, but personally, I would still have them vaccinated. I don't know anything about heart murmurs, but as far as the teeth go, does the vet feel it will be detrimental to her oral health or ability to eat, etc. The reason I ask is because I am a dental lab technician and I know of cases where labs, vets, and dentists have worked together to restore feline/canine teeth. Kris http://www.spazstory.zoomshare.com - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2006 3:11 PM Subject: Test results and an OT question Hi guys, I took 5 kittens/cats in to be tested today. The little girl who previously tested pos tested negative today. So did all her littermates and the unrelated cat. Very, very good news. I still don't understand how one who tested positive 3 days ago tested negative today, but she did. The vet at the clinic feels it is unnecessary at this point to have cats in my home who have previously tested negative re-tested. Do you agree? Also, unfortunately, one little girl I took in was diagnosed with a heart murmur, so they would not inoculate her. The vet also stated she had some genetic abnormalities - asymmetric pupils and teeth that curve in instead of going straight downI'm very worried about her now as she is the love of my life. Do any of yall know of any good web resources on heart murmurs? I'm taking her in for a second opinion next weekend. I wanted to thank everyone for being there for me the last few days. You are an awesome group of people. I learned a lot about this disease, too. Thanks so much, Kelley
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The only thing I know is Acepromazine, but I don't know if it would interfere with getting accurate readings, etc. Also, personally, I cannot see that it made any difference in the two cats I have used it on. My cat Spaz will run and hide at the mere sound of the carrier, but it is only because she has spent so much time at the vet's being poked on (blood drawings, mostly). Also, my four other former ferals are afraid of the carrier, but that's more understandable. Is your cat nervous when you try to get her to take her to the vet, or does she get nervous once there in the presence of the techs/vet? Kris http://www.spazstory.zoomshare.com - Original Message - From: "Marylyn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2006 6:25 PM Subject: Re: Test results and an OT question I haven't followed this closely but I have a question: Is it possible to give the cat some sort of mild sedative before taking it to the vet's to avoid the stress reaction? I try to give mine Rescue Remedy just because she absolutely hates vets. I don't know what happened to her before she came to live with me but she is the only critter (dog or cat) that starts trembling at the thought of going to the vet. Her current vets have given her no reason to be so frightened. Like I said, just a thought. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2006 3:37 PM Subject: Re: Test results and an OT question Cats can develop heart murmurs JUST from the stress of being at the vet's office (one they don't actually have normally). Try to find a vet that can come to your home and examine her without the stress of a car ride and the vet's office. You might get some good support from the Handicats2 yahoogroup... they have all kinds of disabilities there. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HANDICATS2/ is the URL. Phaewryn PLEASE Adopt a cat from Little Cheetah Cat Rescue!!! http://ucat.us/adopt.html DONATE: We could really use a power saw (for construction), a digital camera (for pictures) and HOMES for CATS! -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.3/360 - Release Date: 6/9/2006
Re: Test results and an OT question
I haven't followed this closely but I have a question: Is it possible to give the cat some sort of mild sedative before taking it to the vet's to avoid the stress reaction? I try to give mine Rescue Remedy just because she absolutely hates vets. I don't know what happened to her before she came to live with me but she is the only critter (dog or cat) that starts trembling at the thought of going to the vet. Her current vets have given her no reason to be so frightened. Like I said, just a thought. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2006 3:37 PM Subject: Re: Test results and an OT question Cats can develop heart murmurs JUST from the stress of being at the vet's office (one they don't actually have normally). Try to find a vet that can come to your home and examine her without the stress of a car ride and the vet's office. You might get some good support from the Handicats2 yahoogroup... they have all kinds of disabilities there. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HANDICATS2/ is the URL. Phaewryn PLEASE Adopt a cat from Little Cheetah Cat Rescue!!! http://ucat.us/adopt.html DONATE: We could really use a power saw (for construction), a digital camera (for pictures) and HOMES for CATS! -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.3/360 - Release Date: 6/9/2006
Re: Test results and an OT question
Cats can develop heart murmurs JUST from the stress of being at the vet's office (one they don't actually have normally). Try to find a vet that can come to your home and examine her without the stress of a car ride and the vet's office. You might get some good support from the Handicats2 yahoogroup... they have all kinds of disabilities there. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HANDICATS2/ is the URL. Phaewryn PLEASE Adopt a cat from Little Cheetah Cat Rescue!!! http://ucat.us/adopt.html DONATE: We could really use a power saw (for construction), a digital camera (for pictures) and HOMES for CATS! -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.3/360 - Release Date: 6/9/2006
Re: Test results and an OT question
Awesome news! Though I have to say I'm not surprised she retested negative! ;) I found it a little odd that her littermate was negative as kittens are very susceptible to the virus...I suspected a false positive, like Nina, but didn't want to put the cart before the horse, so-to-speak! I'm so glad to hear that that was the case! Unfortunately, I don't know much about the genetic abnormalities that you mentioned! I did have one cat who had a murmur...but it never affected him as far as I know...I used to give him 30 mg of CoQ10 every day as it is supposed to be good for the heart muscle. But I definitely second the second opinion for your little one! :) Jen "But if you tame me, then we shall need each other. To me, you will be unique in all the world. To you, I shall be unique in all the world; You become responsible, forever, for what you have tamed..." --Antoine de Saint-Exupéry "If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will know each other. If you do not talk to them you will not know them, and what you do not know you will fear. What one fears one destroys." --Chief Dan George "The flame that burns twice as bright burns half as long..." --Blade Runner - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Saturday, June 10, 2006 2:12 pm Subject: Test results and an OT question To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Hi guys, > > I took 5 kittens/cats in to be tested today. The little girl who > previously tested pos tested negative today. So did all her > littermates and the unrelated cat. Very, very good news. I still > don't understand how one who tested positive 3 days ago tested > negative today, but she did. > > The vet at the clinic feels it is unnecessary at this point to have > cats in my home who have previously tested negative re-tested. Do > you > agree? > > Also, unfortunately, one little girl I took in was diagnosed with a > heart murmur, so they would not inoculate her. The vet also stated > she had some genetic abnormalities - asymmetric pupils and teeth > that > curve in instead of going straight downI'm very worried about her > now > as she is the love of my life. Do any of yall know of any good web > resources on heart murmurs? I'm taking her in for a second opinion > next weekend. > > I wanted to thank everyone for being there for me the last few > days. > You are an awesome group of people. I learned a lot about this > disease, too. > > Thanks so much, > > Kelley >
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OMG Kelley, that's fabulous news about the neg results!! It must be what I said about false positive results, there's no other way to explain it. As far as retesting your other previously tested neg cats, your vet is probably right. You seem to have never really had felv in the house. My goodness girl, way to dodge the bullet! You are truly blessed. If it will put your mind at ease, go ahead and have them tested again. They can get some base line cbc results to keep on file at the same time, if you like. As far as the heart murmur kitty... What grade murmur did your vet say it was? Many kittens and puppies have slight heart murmurs that resolve themselves as they grow. How old is she? If it's a serious one, there are surgical options that you could consider. My ex-husband adopted an 5 week old kitten that had serious heart problems. They did open heart surgery on this little tiny girl and the vet has assured him that she's going to be fine now. I don't know about neg cats and different size pupils, but I know it's something that does occur with felv kitties and doesn't seem to cause any trouble. Does the vet think that her teeth are curved enough to cause her problems? Take another deep breath. You had a terrible fright with the felv test and that turned out, (at least it appears to have), been nothing to worry about. I'm praying that your special love's problems will work themselves out too. What's her name? You've obviously got a very powerful Angel on your shoulder, keep the faith that they won't let you down. Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi guys, I took 5 kittens/cats in to be tested today. The little girl who previously tested pos tested negative today. So did all her littermates and the unrelated cat. Very, very good news. I still don't understand how one who tested positive 3 days ago tested negative today, but she did. The vet at the clinic feels it is unnecessary at this point to have cats in my home who have previously tested negative re-tested. Do you agree? Also, unfortunately, one little girl I took in was diagnosed with a heart murmur, so they would not inoculate her. The vet also stated she had some genetic abnormalities - asymmetric pupils and teeth that curve in instead of going straight downI'm very worried about her now as she is the love of my life. Do any of yall know of any good web resources on heart murmurs? I'm taking her in for a second opinion next weekend. I wanted to thank everyone for being there for me the last few days. You are an awesome group of people. I learned a lot about this disease, too. Thanks so much, Kelley
Test results and an OT question
Hi guys, I took 5 kittens/cats in to be tested today. The little girl who previously tested pos tested negative today. So did all her littermates and the unrelated cat. Very, very good news. I still don't understand how one who tested positive 3 days ago tested negative today, but she did. The vet at the clinic feels it is unnecessary at this point to have cats in my home who have previously tested negative re-tested. Do you agree? Also, unfortunately, one little girl I took in was diagnosed with a heart murmur, so they would not inoculate her. The vet also stated she had some genetic abnormalities - asymmetric pupils and teeth that curve in instead of going straight downI'm very worried about her now as she is the love of my life. Do any of yall know of any good web resources on heart murmurs? I'm taking her in for a second opinion next weekend. I wanted to thank everyone for being there for me the last few days. You are an awesome group of people. I learned a lot about this disease, too. Thanks so much, Kelley
