RE: Tip is Gone-Kathy
Every feral cat story I hear, I just cant stop crying there is a book called Livings in shadows - its a book about how to take care of feral cats the title itself makes me cry because it represents so much of how their life is I had a feral who used to hisses and growls as she ate I just love my ferals I am sure that your big puffy head boy is in heaven - -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of tamara stickler Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 7:10 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: Tip is Gone-Kathy We had a feral for about 3 years that we fed...a burmese mix, all black, big puffy head with a small body and stubby legs. Everytime he saw us he'd hissso of course we named him Hisspuff. After about a year we could pet him while he ate, but he'd still hiss when he first saw us. We tried to get him to come into the house...but he never would, just prefered the straw we put out for him in the bushes out front. He got sick, nose stuffed up and eyes running - but wouldn't ever let us catch him. He showed up at the back of the house one day...just to say goodbye...again we tried to catch him, but he wouldn't have it and went off to die...but he'll ALWAYS be one of my favorites! Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know what you mean, some of my feral hisses and spits at me whenever I am near them but I still love them as much if you know what I mean There is this poem some one of the FIP list sent to the other list member a long time ago when they lost their love one and I found it very soothing and am trying to find it so that I can share with this list member - -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 10:21 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Tip is Gone - Kathy Thanks Kathy, Seeing them all again will be wonderful. Like you I have had pets of all kinds and I loved them all (even some that were not so lovable.)It makes it easier knowing that they will be there for me when it is my turn to go. Love, Sheila Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard.
RE: Tip is Gone-Kathy
Oh absolutely...uhm...either that or he has already reincarnated into an orange tabby with a big head that as recently shown up at my parent's house. Same body shape...just different color! While this one doesn't hiss, he won't allow himself to be touched or caught yet either, yet he lays in Hisspuff's spot. My mom's freakin' out...she's afraid she'll become a crazy cat lady! She can't help but feed them...but she doesn't even really like cats and certainly doesn't want to have to think about it outside in the cold and wet...esp. when it refuses to come in, but lays infront of the laundry room window shivering. Everytime we rent a trap to catch himhe's a no show. So she is just going to keep feeding him in the hopes that he'll come around like the other two, Tom Jerry, that she refuses to admit are hers, but they have trained Mom Dad to let them in the house at willthey even have their own beds downstairsFor that matter, Mom's dog used to HATE cats...Jerry took two and a half years, but won her over too! What idiot human ever coined the phrase "dumb animals"?Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Every feral cat story I hear, I just cant stop crying there is a book called Livings in shadows - its a book about how to take care of feral cats the title itself makes me cry because it represents so much of how their life is I had a feral who used to hisses and growls as she ate I just love my ferals I am sure that your big puffy head boy is in heaven - -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of tamara sticklerSent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 7:10 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: RE: Tip is Gone-Kathy We had a feral for about 3 years that we fed...a burmese mix, all black, big puffy head with a small body and stubby legs. Everytime he saw us he'd hissso of course we named him Hisspuff. After about a year we could pet him while he ate, but he'd still hiss when he first saw us. We tried to get him to come into the house...but he never would, just prefered the straw we put out for him in the bushes out front. He got sick, nose stuffed up and eyes running - but wouldn't ever let us catch him. He showed up at the back of the house one day...just to say goodbye...again we tried to catch him, but he wouldn't have it and went off to die...but he'll ALWAYS be one of my favorites!Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know what you mean, some of my feral hisses and spits at me whenever I am near them but I still love them as much if you know what I mean There is this poem some one of the FIP list sent to the other list member a long time ago when they lost their love one and I found it very soothing and am trying to find it so that I can share with this list member - -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 10:21 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: Tip is Gone - Kathy Thanks Kathy, Seeing them all again will be wonderful. Like you I have had pets of all kinds and I loved them all (even some that were not so lovable.)It makes it easier knowing that they will be there for me when it is my turn to go.Love, Sheila Do you Yahoo!?Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard.__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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In a message dated 2/27/2005 10:27:55 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://www.bemikitties.com/cgi-bin/photo/index.cgi?mode=viewalbum=/Kitty-Play-Pen That is great. I was thinking about a screened porch, but I believe they would like something like this even better. They can feel the grass on there little feet and have a great view of the sky. inline: Clouds.jpg
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Looks great! It's a kitty heaven!! I have built something similar for my babies but not as a big of area as you have for your babies!! You are giving me some new ideas! Thank you!! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Belinda Sauro Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 8:27 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Tip is Gone Here is the kitty play pen we had built for our kids, it is 21 by 22 feet and the top is covered in chicken wire. It has two gates and they are pad locked so neighbor kids can't accidentally let anyone out. They LOVE it, although now that they can go out they appreciate air-conditioning and heat alot more. We built a cat door in the kitchen window this last year, instead of the cat door we had and all but Cody uses it (there are steps we built up to the kitchen window), Cody will use it to come in, but will drive me crazy to let him out, he just can't put together it works the same way going out as it does coming in :)) It is attacted to the side of the house and is not in the ground, so it can move with us if we ever decide to move. It is made up of 4 chain-link panels that are attached to each other same as a fence would be, and is 8 feet high. http://www.bemikitties.com/cgi-bin/photo/index.cgi?mode=viewalbum=/Kitt y-Play-Pen -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candle Light Service http://www.bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting web design) http://HostDesign4U.com --- BMK Designs (non-profit web sites) http://bmk.bemikitties.com
RE: Tip is Gone - Kathy
I know what you mean, some of my feral hisses and spits at me whenever I am near them but I still love them as much if you know what I mean There is this poem some one of the FIP list sent to the other list member a long time ago when they lost their love one and I found it very soothing and am trying to find it so that I can share with this list member - -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 10:21 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Tip is Gone - Kathy Thanks Kathy, Seeing them all again will be wonderful. Like you I have had pets of all kinds and I loved them all (even some that were not so lovable.)It makes it easier knowing that they will be there for me when it is my turn to go. Love, Sheila image001.jpg
Re: Tip is Gone - Kathy
Thanks Kathy, Seeing them all again will be wonderful. Like you I have had pets of all kinds and I loved them all (even some that were not so lovable.)It makes it easier knowing that they will be there for me when it is my turn to go. Love, Sheila inline: Clouds.jpg
Re: Tip is Gone - Kathy
You're welcome Sheila I witnessed the 3 1/2 hour visit the night before my Tina died - she was 9 1/2 years old, was my first bottle baby - I got her when she was 2 days old (someone had been babysitting her mother, her mother got out, had her litter on the neighbor's porch, and went home before the babies were found. Tina and her sister still had their umbilical cords attached. Their mother refused to accept them when the babysitter took them to their mother, the mother's owner wanted nothing to do with them, so the baby sitter contacted the pet shop I worked at and I ended up with them), andhad been FeLV+ because ofa kitten I brought home and let have run of the house for 6 weeks before he was tested in 2000. Tina had been positive for 2 1/2 years when she passed. Seeing my patient's visit the night before she died, and knowing that he was one of the people who's family dog had been keeping watch for 2 weeks from the other side made her passing bearable -still difficult, but bearable. Where there's Life, there's HopeKathy"There is nothing so strong as gentleness, and there is nothing so gentle as real strength." ~ Sir Francis de Sates
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I am so sorry. I can relate to how you feel.
Re: Tip is Gone - tlstickler
Yes, I am a Christian. Sometimes I lose site of the obvious book that has all the answers. I know in my heart I will see my babies again. After all it wouldn't be heaven without them. I did a web search also and came up with some good sites dealing with animals in heaven. Thanks so much for reminding me and for the stories. I will save them. I know caring for felv babies I will need them again. Hopefully not for a long time. Love, Sheila inline: Clouds.jpg
Re: Tip is Gone - tlstickler
Well, I am not getting all the messages again, so if I inadvertently did not respond to someone, I apologize, and please email me again Cherie[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, I am a Christian. Sometimes I lose site of the obvious book that has all the answers. I know in my heart I will see my babies again. After all it wouldn't be heaven without them. I did a web search also and came up with some good sites dealing with animals in heaven. Thanks so much for reminding me and for the stories. I will save them. I know caring for felv babies I will need them again. Hopefully not for a long time.Love, Sheila
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Dear Shiela: I don't know of a book specifically about dealing with the afterlife of critters, but the books I've read about AC and mentioned to you do touch on it, in different ways, and I know that it is possible to communicate with a kitty's spirit after it has crossed over. I will skim through the ones I have and see what I can find that may be more specific. I also may have some saved e-mail references in that regard from one of the AC'ers I've worked with. I do remember how Raphaela Pope related in her book Wisdom of the Animals about a client who tragically had to leave a pet behind when her family was evacuated in the middle of the night from an overseas placement, in Iran I think. She had rescued this starving puppy she named Noor, but when they had to leave abruptly had not been able to take her with them. What may have happened to the little dog had greatly troubled the girl, now a woman, and she asked Raphaela if it would be possible to talk to Noor find out. It had been a number of years, and the little dog may have been through more than one reincarnation since then, but might still remember when she was Noor and reply. Raphaela was still able to reach Noor's spirit and tell her former benefactor what had happened. I'd have to re-read the chapter to remember the exact details, but it was very touching. The abandoned dog had been left to wander the streets again, searching dutifully for her missing guardian but never finding her, yet feeling her love and keeping her mind open to her thoughts until she had perished. When the woman asked if Noor was angry with her for leaving, she said no, how could she be? Because of her, she had learned what it was like to have a loving relationship between a dog and human and was very grateful for that. I guess to many people it seems impossible. We are so entrenched in the concept of being in a concrete place and in a physical body we really have no way to comprehend what it is like to exist only as a spirit. Heaven or whatever people want to call it is not a specific place and spirits don't inhabit physical bodies on that level. Spirits can and do come back in other bodies. Raphaela related how a dog she had and loved for many years, named Petey, who had done much to help her when she was first learning how to re-awaken her ability to communicate with animals, came back as a hawk and spoke with her. Perhaps if you talk to Tipper, he can let you know what happened to him so you can stop wondering and worrying and be at peace. And maybe if you tell him how much you miss him, he may decide to return to you one day in another body. When I had to say goodbye to my first FeLV+ kitty, Purrsia, she told me not to cry, that she would be waiting to be with me again one day. She said she realized how attached I was to her in her present form, but that was not so important and our spirits would be able to find one another. She was so brave and fearless and I know her spirit is soaring high wherever she may be. When her playmate here on earth crossed over 7 months later, I asked Angel if she would greet Purrsia for me, but Angel said she did not expect to find Purrsia waiting for her, that her spirit would not be able to keep up with Purrsia's, and that she had others waiting to welcome and love her. Even if we are not skilled enough to receive their thoughts, you can still send thoughts and loving energy to the other side and they will know it. If you are lucky you may be able to feel or sense a reply. A friend of mine who has done a bit of study and practice with animal communication said that after one of her kittys crossed over, she saw her again, only she was well and whole again with her tail that had been lost in an accident. I think if you could find and read one or more of the books I mentioned, it will help you understand more about the phenomon. I hope you are able to talk to Tipper and come to peace with his loss. If $ were no object, I would talk to my critters, both living and those who have become kitty angels, on a regular basis. One of my goals before my time to cross over arrives is to learn how to communicate telepathically with other species. I can recommend someone to you that has helped me a great deal. Before she made being an AC her full-time avocation, she was a counselor for humans and she is a very compassionate person. She is also skilled in the Yuen method of energetic healing and can help both pet and guardian deal with energetic imbalances that can affect one's well being. Her name is Jasmine Indra...she is a former protege of Raphaela Pope and is mentioned in Raphaela's book along with a black cat Jasmine had named Benoji, who was very wise soul. She has a website: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and her phone no. is: (207) 443-1125; her cell phone if you need to reach her ASAP is (510) 325-2062. Sally in San Jose
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HALLELUJAH! I am with you 110% on this one. You forgot the story about the talking donkey in the Old Testament. God chose a donkey to warn the prophet. =^..^= Terri, Salome', Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Sammi, and 5 furangels: RuthieGirl, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth and Alec =^..^= Furkid Photos! http://mysite.verizon.net/vze7sgqa/My FeLV Site: http://pages.ivillage.com/ruthiegirl1/MyFeLVinformationSite/My Personal Page: http://www.geocities.com/ruthiegirl1/terrispage.html?1083970447350 - Original Message - From: tamara stickler To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 10:59 AM Subject: Re: Tip is Gone Sheila, You mentioned Heaven, so I'm assuming you are Christian, so look in your Bible for the proof that animals go to Heaven. (I'll state some references here, but I'm sorry I don't have the exact chapter verse...I'm dislexic, I never could memorize those.) 1) The story of Noah: At one pt. in this passage, it speaks of animals having to attone for the sin of drawing human blood. (Why attone if no soul?) 2) Christ often speaks of the Lion laying down with the Lamb once all is said and done. He also refers to himself as the Lamb of God...why liken yourself to something that is unimportant. Lambs were used as sacrafices to God. The sacrific meant two things..one, the one offering it would be going without that which the lamb could provide, fleece, meat...2) why would God (in the Old Testament at any rate) be pleased by the sacrifice of something unimportant. God didn't ask for a sacrifice of stone, or even water (as precious at that is in the middle east)...but like Christ Himself, it was the releasing of a soul to ascend back to God. 3) WhenAbraham was tested with sacrificing his own son, and the angel stayed his hand, he was instead instructed to sacrifice a ram (now note here, the ram wasn't one who strolled onto the scene all robust and healthy, but one caught in the bushes -I would imagine only sick or old animals would really suffer this fate-) and God instructed the release of this creature as equal to the sacrific of Issac. 4) Christ's death not only saved all of mankind, but was to bean end to the animal sacrifics as well. Christ said something to the effect of : there is no farther need to burn sacrifices...for the Lamb of God will be the perfect sacrifice and die for all. 5) Christ likened Himself to a sheppard...not a blacksmith, or doctor, but someone who looks after those who are weak and need him...someone who looks after animals. (Now mind you He did also compared us to sheep - who although are very cute and well meaning are really ...how do I put this kindlyrather dim-witted animals, and I think there too was a hint :) ) 6) Paul's horse/mule depending on which description you read, was the one who first saw the angel blocking his path on the road to Jerico. WHY reveal yourself to something of no consequence. 7) In the Book of Revelations the angels of the Appocolypse dissend to earth on horseback. They don't arrive by themselves and purchase horses to ride. :) ALL of creation is the work of the Divine. Why would He create that which is only temporary? I'm an artist -and although I KNOW that my work is temporary...I have a great affection for the successful pieces I createI can only imagine what it would be like not only to create but to give life to a creature capable of LOVE. The Divine is pure loveALL LOVE comes from HIM. The Divine can neither be created or destroyed...if all love is in essence from God or God itself, than any of creation with the ability to Love, can not and will not cease to exist simply because the vessel dies. Also God knows your heart. If reuniting with all your loved ones in the afterlife would be heaven for you - Then that is exactly what your heaven will be. I taught Catholism to teens. We got on this very discussion one Sunday. One of my boys was arguing that animal do not go to heaven because they aren't savedwhen, before I could answer, one of the girls piped up, "Well they never NEEDED to be SAVED, they NEVER BETRAYED THEIR CREATOR!" Out of the mouths of babes. Father Bob told the following story:A man awoke abruptly after a long illness, fully restored in mind and body and realized he must have died. There was nothing around but open land so he began walking. All of a sudden he looked down as his childhood dog, Buddy,ran up to him. He leaned down to give and receive a kiss and picked up a perfect stick and played fetch with his childhood friend for what seemed like hours as they walked along. Then as they both crested a hill tired and thirsty from their play, they came upon a set of glorious gates. Made of gold and inset
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I hear you, but I don't believe in reincarnation because inHebrews,the authorwrites: "Just as man is destined to die once, and after that to face judgment, so Christ was sacrificed once to take away the sins of many people; and He will appear a second time, not to bear sin, but to bring salvation to those who are waiting for Him." Hebrews 9:27-28 So you don't have to do this again! =^..^= Terri, Salome', Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Sammi, and 5 furangels: RuthieGirl, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth and Alec =^..^= Furkid Photos! http://mysite.verizon.net/vze7sgqa/My FeLV Site: http://pages.ivillage.com/ruthiegirl1/MyFeLVinformationSite/My Personal Page: http://www.geocities.com/ruthiegirl1/terrispage.html?1083970447350 - Original Message - From: tamara stickler To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 4:02 PM Subject: Re: Tip is Gone I forgot about that one. I am certain there are other references in other religions as well...Someone else wrote about reincarnation. I do actually believe in that...don't want to ...because, quite frankly, I don't want to do this again...and I worry about not being able to protect those who I love. But I do believe that many of us go around again and again until we've learned all that our soulis capable of learning then perhaps move onto a heaven...and then thereare thosewho choose to go around again to make a difference for the better. I supposeif there is a Heaven, it might get a bit boring for someand theymight choose the excitement of life...afterall, ifthere is such a thing as an eternal soul...wouldn't that make a lifetime just one LONG weekend?Terri Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HALLELUJAH! I am with you 110% on this one. You forgot the story about the talking donkey in the Old Testament. God chose a donkey to warn the prophet. =^..^= Terri, Salome', Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Sammi, and 5 furangels: RuthieGirl, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth and Alec =^..^= Furkid Photos! http://mysite.verizon.net/vze7sgqa/My FeLV Site: http://pages.ivillage.com/ruthiegirl1/MyFeLVinformationSite/My Personal Page: http://www.geocities.com/ruthiegirl1/terrispage.html?1083970447350 - Original Message - From: tamara stickler To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 10:59 AM Subject: Re: Tip is Gone Sheila, You mentioned Heaven, so I'm assuming you are Christian, so look in your Bible for the proof that animals go to Heaven. (I'll state some references here, but I'm sorry I don't have the exact chapter verse...I'm dislexic, I never could memorize those.) 1) The story of Noah: At one pt. in this passage, it speaks of animals having to attone for the sin of drawing human blood. (Why attone if no soul?) 2) Christ often speaks of the Lion laying down with the Lamb once all is said and done. He also refers to himself as the Lamb of God...why liken yourself to something that is unimportant. Lambs were used as sacrafices to God. The sacrific meant two things..one, the one offering it would be going without that which the lamb could provide, fleece, meat...2) why would God (in the Old Testament at any rate) be pleased by the sacrifice of something unimportant. God didn't ask for a sacrifice of stone, or even water (as precious at that is in the middle east)...but like Christ Himself, it was the releasing of a soul to ascend back to God. 3) WhenAbraham was tested with sacrificing his own son, and the angel stayed his hand, he was instead instructed to sacrifice a ram (now note here, the ram wasn't one who strolled onto the scene all robust and healthy, but one caught in the bushes -I would imagine only sick or old animals would really suffer this fate-) and God instructed the release of this creature as equal to the sacrific of Issac. 4) Christ's death not only saved all of mankind, but was to bean end to the animal sacrifics as well. Christ said something to the effect of : there is no farther need to burn sacrifices...for the Lamb of God will be the perfect sacrifice and die for all. 5) Christ likened Himself to a sheppard...not a blacksmith, or doctor, but someone who looks after those who are weak and need him...someone who looks after animals. (Now mind you He did also compared us to sheep - who although are very cute and well meaning are really ...how do I put this kindlyrather dim-witted animals, and I think there too was a hint :) ) 6) Paul's horse/mule depending on which descr
Re: Getting a bit off topic now...was; Tip is Gone
Yes -- love and respect all people. Absolutely. But just as
other faiths believe that Christians are infidels and doomed to be separated
from God, the Christian faith is very clear also that aside from Jews, you must
believe in Jesus Christ to be saved. Read the Gospel of John. In
particular, John 14:6.
We should go off list if you want to discuss this further. E-mail me
at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
=^..^= Terri, Salome', Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Sammi, and 5
furangels: RuthieGirl, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth and Alec =^..^=
Furkid Photos! http://mysite.verizon.net/vze7sgqa/My
FeLV Site: http://pages.ivillage.com/ruthiegirl1/MyFeLVinformationSite/My
Personal Page: http://www.geocities.com/ruthiegirl1/terrispage.html?1083970447350
- Original Message -
From: tamara
stickler
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 4:36
PM
Subject: Re: Getting a bit off topic
now...was; Tip is Gone
Oh, I hope you're right!... :)
...Hmmm...of course Christ also said He'd come again "before all now
living are dead"...THAT's the part that leads me to believe that its
possible. Just as I believe you don't have to believe in Christ to get
to heaven, but that He must believe in you"let those who can accept this
teaching do.others will not be able to because the Father in Heaven had
stopped their eyes from hearing, their eyes from seeing" Just as He
gave us numberous languages, looks, bodies, and opinionsI believe He gave
us different beliefs and presents His divine glory to ways too numberous to
count. I think that love, respect acceptance of others is one of
the ultimate tasks we must master in life...
I guess what I'm saying is I really don't have a clue...so I believe in
what comforts me and let it go at that.My main belief base being that the
Divine created mankind flawed...so He MUST be grading on a curve !
:)
God Bless,
TTerri Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I hear you, but I don't believe in reincarnation because
inHebrews,the authorwrites: "Just as man is destined to
die once, and after that to face judgment, so Christ was sacrificed once to
take away the sins of many people; and He will appear a second time, not to
bear sin, but to bring salvation to those who are waiting for Him."
Hebrews 9:27-28
So you don't have to do this again!
=^..^= Terri, Salome', Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Sammi, and
5 furangels: RuthieGirl, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth and Alec =^..^=
Furkid Photos! http://mysite.verizon.net/vze7sgqa/My
FeLV Site: http://pages.ivillage.com/ruthiegirl1/MyFeLVinformationSite/My
Personal Page: http://www.geocities.com/ruthiegirl1/terrispage.html?1083970447350
- Original Message -
From: tamara stickler
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005
4:02 PM
Subject: Re: Tip is Gone
I forgot about that one. I am certain there are other
references in other religions as well...Someone else wrote about
reincarnation. I do actually believe in that...don't want to
...because, quite frankly, I don't want to do this again...and I worry
about not being able to protect those who I love. But I do believe that
many of us go around again and again until we've learned all that our
soulis capable of learning then perhaps move onto a
heaven...and then thereare thosewho choose to go around again
to make a difference for the better. I supposeif there is a
Heaven, it might get a bit boring for someand theymight choose
the excitement of life...afterall, ifthere is such a thing as an
eternal soul...wouldn't that make a lifetime just one LONG
weekend?Terri Brown
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
HALLELUJAH!
I am with you 110% on this one.
You forgot the story about the talking donkey in the Old
Testament. God chose a donkey to warn the prophet.
=^..^= Terri, Salome', Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Sammi,
and 5 furangels: RuthieGirl, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth and Alec
=^..^=
Furkid Photos! http://mysite.verizon.net/vze7sgqa/My
FeLV Site: http://pages.ivillage.com/ruthiegirl1/MyFeLVinformationSite/My
Personal Page: http://www.geocities.com/ruthiegirl1/terrispage.html?1083970447350
- Original Message -
From: tamara stickler
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005
10:59 AM
Subject: Re: Tip is Gone
Sheila,
You mentioned Heaven, so I'm assuming you are Christian, so
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Shelia I am so sorry to hear of your loss of Tip may he be at rest and watch over you from above. My heart goes out to you Carla From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date sent: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 23:37:42 EST To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Copies to: Subject:Tip is Gone Send reply to: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org I couldn't sleep tonight so I got a flash light and look again in the wooded area behind my house. I found my baby he has been dead for a couple days. His body was wet from rain we had over the weekend. I don't know how he died but it looks like maybe dogs or a car hit him. I am so overwhelmed with grief and guilt how could I let this happen to him. He was a big gentle love bug. I don't know if I'll ever get over this loss. I guess I have learned the hard way that there is no safe place out side. We will bury him in the morning next to his Mother. Thank you all for listening and for the prayers. Love, Sheila
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Dear Shiela, I am so very sorry, it literally breaks my heart to hear what happened to Tip. I cant stop crying I so feel your pain very much a couple of years ago, I was looking for one of my feral cats that I had been feeding for years, and she everyday would show up at the door step to wait for me to feed her one day, she did not show up, and the 2nd day she did not show up, and I knew something was wrong then I put flyers everywhere, and one of my neighbors called me to tell me she had found her she was already dead for a couple of days again, she was all wet from the rain, too. The lady had put her in a trash bag and in her trash can. I asked her to give her back to me so that I could bury her in my yard along with her friends and her little boy Henry it was devastating roaming dogs killed her. That was the time when I was also thinking about trapping her and keep her with me two days prior to the day she started missing and I never had a chance to do so I am sorry, I did not make it about me but I just wanted to let you know that I know exactly how you feel just know that Tip is at a better place now, and he is even closer to you now in a way he is watching you, so dont be too sad, because it will make him sad, too. and you will meet him again in another life (I really believe that). Hugs, Hideyo -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barb Moermond Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 8:33 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Tip is Gone I am so sorry. Our thoughts and tears are with you. HUGS [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I couldn't sleep tonight so I got a flash light and look again in the wooded area behind my house. I found my baby he has been dead for a couple days. His body was wet from rain we had over the weekend. I don't know how he died but it looks like maybe dogs or a car hit him. I am so overwhelmed with grief and guilt how could I let this happen to him. He was a big gentle love bug. I don't know if I'll ever get over this loss. I guess I have learned the hard way that there is no safe place out side. We will bury him in the morning next to his Mother. Thank you all for listening and for the prayers. Love, Sheila Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile. - Anonymous Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we.
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Dear Shiela: I am so very sorry to hear that you lost your Tipper, tragically, before he could come back to you. I, too, know how heartbreaking it is to find a beloved furkid who has gone missing and come to a tragic end. I know it is too late, now, for anything to bring Tipper back to you, but it IS possible for you to be able to talk to his spirit, even though he has crossed over, if that would help bring you some closure. That may sound like over-the-top crazy, but telepathic communication with animals is a very real phenomenon. Since the communication is mental and between spirits, the limitations of being in a physical body is not necessary. Had you ever considered trying to locate Tipper with the help of an animal communicator? You might want to keep that in mind for future reference. I wish that I had known about animal communication some years ago...it might have helped me find one of my furkids before the coyotes did. I went to farm-sit for a friend's horses for a weekend and took my cat Ian with me...he always went wherever I did. My friend's daughter was careless and left the back door to the house open while I was out at the stable with my friend being briefed on the care for the horses and when we came back to the house, Ian was nowhere to be found. I spent the entire day and all that night looking and calling for him. The farm was out in the boonies and surrounded by open space and sagebrush, which is coyote country, and I was scared to death for Ian's safety. How I wish that I had known then it was possible to have been able to talk to him. When I did find Ian in the wee hours of the second morning, he had perished...a coyote had grabbed him just in front of his tail and torn one hind leg away and broken his back, but his body was still warm and I could see that he had been trying, futilely, to drag himself back to me with just his front legs. I sat down and bawled so loudly, I swear I must have sounded like a coyote howling. I was absolutely devastated! Since then, I have become enlightened to the phenomenon of telepathic communication with animals. Finding lost critters is one of the biggest challenges for an AC...a critter cannot tell us where they are in the same way we would...they cannot give an address or exact location. What they CAN do is communicate mental images of their surroundings and can usually tell the AC if they are relatatively close to home or farther away. An AC can also usually tell you if your furkid is still in his/her body, or has already crossed over. I've had two experiences more recently where an AC has been able to help me find my missing furkids very soon, before their lives were in jeopardy. I would not wait a few days to see if they come home...when one of my furkids is missing, I immediately call an animal communicator to make sure they are still alive, that there is nothing to prevent them from finding their way home and how I can locate them. On one occasion, it was summer and very hot and I had left the back door to the house open to cool the house off in the evening. One of my furbabys had just been spayed 3 days prior and so of course I was being careful to make sure she stayed indoors and quiet. But I had fallen asleep on the sofa watching the news on TV and when I woke up it was around 3AM and as I stumbled to the bedroom I noticed the door in the kitchen was open and being half awake and without thinking, closed the door and crawled in bed. I never imagined that Angel (who was not a very brave kitty and did not go outside unless someone was with her) had gone outside on her own. In the morning when it was time to feed everyone and Angel did not come scurrying for her breakfast, and a frantic search of her preferred spots to snuggle in the house was fruitless, my heart crashed to my feet. I went outside and called and called and called, but no Angel. I walked around the entire neighborhood many times, calling and knocking on doors. I made flyers and posted them on fences and telephone poles. And then I got on the phone to contact an animal communicator. The one I usually called was at a conference and not available, but she got back to me and gave me several others for referral and I was finally able find one who could help me. The AC said at first Angel did not answer her, and then did but was not being very communicative, but finally did talk to her. She said first of all Angel had been angry with me for taking her to be spayed without telling her anything about it, and then she was angry about being shut out of the house and she hid. When she got over being angry, she discovered she did not know how to get back and was too afraid to try. Angel was still in her body and not far away...she said. Angel pictured herself in or under something she was not able to get out of. I continued calling for her and looked in and under everything I could, but
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Sheila, I am sorry to hear about Tip I have senta prayer up to him, I have found of few of mine hit by cars, never a easy thing to do, again I am so sorry to hear about Tip. My thoughts and prayers are with you. Cherie[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm so sorry to hear about Tip. I lost too many cats and kittens this way when I was a kid. I remember how hard it was to lose them that way. You have my deepest sympathies. Where there's Life, there's HopeKathy"If you can't be a good example -- then you'll just have to be a horrible warning." Catherine-
