Re: To Laurie re hemobart

2007-07-02 Thread HIDEYO YAMAMOTO
How about PCR test?  Do you think false nagative is still common with Hemob PCR 
Test?
  - Original Message - 
  From: wendy<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> 
  Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 10:14 AM
  Subject: To Laurie re hemobart


  Hey Laurie,

  The reason vets like to treat for hemobart without the
  test is that the hemobart tends to hide itself on the
  slides.  It's very hard to diagnose.  I think it's
  possible that my cat Cricket died of hemobart b/c I
  knew nothing about it and none of the three vets that
  saw him suggested doxy or hemobart.  He died from
  anemia.  

  Hemobart can be seen on a slide, but it's hit or miss.
   The blood must be fresh when tested so they can see
  the organisms attached to the blood cells.  Even then,
  one minute they might show up, the next, they aren't
  there.  So there's a real danger in thinking she
  doesn't have it after testing negative, when she does.
   Good luck Laurie.  I hope you guys are able to turn
  her around.

  :)
  Wendy

  --- laurieskatz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:

  > Hello Sally, did the Baytril improve the anemia? I
  > am trying to figure it out...does this mean there
  > was an infection that the baytril effectively
  > treated and the infection caused the anemia? Were
  > there other symptoms?
  > 
  > Did IR take care of the fevers?
  > 
  > We are dealing with fever, anemia and low white
  > blood count...my vet and I are going to talk
  > tomorrow about what to do to treat the anemia. 
  > I was thinking of having Isabella tested for
  > hemobart rather than just treating for it. He wanted
  > to just treat with doxy but we used this for a
  > kitten earlier this spring and I'd rather not use it
  > unless we know she has hemobart. My vet is not
  > supportive of using IR. His research shows nothing
  > works for feline leukemiabut I believe he will
  > support what we want to do (just doesn't want false
  > hopes on my part ~ we've been through several
  > mystery illnesses together).
  > 
  > Thanks for any info,
  > Laurie
  > 
  >  
  > - Original Message - 
  >   From: Susan Dubose 
  >   To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> 
  >   Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 9:00 PM
  >   Subject: Re: Pictures and a question
  > 
  > 
  >   Good for you, Sally, for following your instincts
  > when it comes to your baby's care
  > 
  >   Lucky boy he is
  > 
  > 
  >   Susan J. DuBose  >^..^<
  >   www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com<http://www.petgirlspetsitting.com/>
  >   www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org<http://www.tx.siameserescue.org/>
  >   www.shadowcats.net<http://www.shadowcats.net/>
  > "As Cleopatra
  > lay in state,
  >  Faithful Bast
  > at her side did wait,
  >  Purring
  > welcomes of soft applause,
  >  Ever guarding
  > with sharpened claws."
  >   
  > Trajan Tennent
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > - Original Message - 
  > From: Sally Davis 
  > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> 
  > Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 8:06 PM
  > Subject: Re: Pictures and a question
  > 
  > 
  > Junior initially was treated for hemobartella as
  > a precaution with Baytril. The anemia did improve,
  > but then came the fevers the eye infection etcit
  > was a rough go and without this group, I am not sure
  > how long I would have put him through it. I was and
  > to certain extent am clueless. 
  > 
  > My vet at that time was saying the with the
  > fevers most likely being from the FELV it might be
  > time to pts. I took my puttycat home and got him
  > back to the old vet and told him I wanted to do the
  > IR. He, Dr Larrick is a good natured fellow who
  > thank goodness had just hired a new(young vet). She
  > has been very caring and did the IR protocol and we
  > treated what came along. Junior is still with me 10
  > months later. Thanks to the support and knowlegde of
  > this group.  
  > 
  > sally
  > 
  >  
  > On 7/1/07, Marylyn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
  > wrote: 
  >   Not necessarily on topicMai Mai had
  > AIHA and it improved with the addition of liver
  > (yuck) to her food + alternative vet treatments.  I
  > have to wonder if anemic cats would benefit from
  > liver po

To Laurie re hemobart

2007-07-02 Thread wendy
Hey Laurie,

The reason vets like to treat for hemobart without the
test is that the hemobart tends to hide itself on the
slides.  It's very hard to diagnose.  I think it's
possible that my cat Cricket died of hemobart b/c I
knew nothing about it and none of the three vets that
saw him suggested doxy or hemobart.  He died from
anemia.  

Hemobart can be seen on a slide, but it's hit or miss.
 The blood must be fresh when tested so they can see
the organisms attached to the blood cells.  Even then,
one minute they might show up, the next, they aren't
there.  So there's a real danger in thinking she
doesn't have it after testing negative, when she does.
 Good luck Laurie.  I hope you guys are able to turn
her around.

:)
Wendy

--- laurieskatz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hello Sally, did the Baytril improve the anemia? I
> am trying to figure it out...does this mean there
> was an infection that the baytril effectively
> treated and the infection caused the anemia? Were
> there other symptoms?
> 
> Did IR take care of the fevers?
> 
> We are dealing with fever, anemia and low white
> blood count...my vet and I are going to talk
> tomorrow about what to do to treat the anemia. 
> I was thinking of having Isabella tested for
> hemobart rather than just treating for it. He wanted
> to just treat with doxy but we used this for a
> kitten earlier this spring and I'd rather not use it
> unless we know she has hemobart. My vet is not
> supportive of using IR. His research shows nothing
> works for feline leukemiabut I believe he will
> support what we want to do (just doesn't want false
> hopes on my part ~ we've been through several
> mystery illnesses together).
> 
> Thanks for any info,
> Laurie
> 
>  
> - Original Message - 
>   From: Susan Dubose 
>   To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
>   Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 9:00 PM
>   Subject: Re: Pictures and a question
> 
> 
>   Good for you, Sally, for following your instincts
> when it comes to your baby's care
> 
>   Lucky boy he is
> 
> 
>   Susan J. DuBose  >^..^<
>   www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com
>   www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org
>   www.shadowcats.net
> "As Cleopatra
> lay in state,
>  Faithful Bast
> at her side did wait,
>  Purring
> welcomes of soft applause,
>  Ever guarding
> with sharpened claws."
>   
> Trajan Tennent
> 
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: Sally Davis 
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
> Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 8:06 PM
> Subject: Re: Pictures and a question
> 
> 
> Junior initially was treated for hemobartella as
> a precaution with Baytril. The anemia did improve,
> but then came the fevers the eye infection etcit
> was a rough go and without this group, I am not sure
> how long I would have put him through it. I was and
> to certain extent am clueless. 
> 
> My vet at that time was saying the with the
> fevers most likely being from the FELV it might be
> time to pts. I took my puttycat home and got him
> back to the old vet and told him I wanted to do the
> IR. He, Dr Larrick is a good natured fellow who
> thank goodness had just hired a new(young vet). She
> has been very caring and did the IR protocol and we
> treated what came along. Junior is still with me 10
> months later. Thanks to the support and knowlegde of
> this group.  
> 
> sally
> 
>  
> On 7/1/07, Marylyn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote: 
>   Not necessarily on topicMai Mai had
> AIHA and it improved with the addition of liver
> (yuck) to her food + alternative vet treatments.  I
> have to wonder if anemic cats would benefit from
> liver pops 
> 
> 


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