Re: Ember and weight loss

2007-09-28 Thread Belinda
What were his creatinine, BUN, phosphorus, potassium and HCT, those are the big numbers concerning CRF? What lab were they sent to? -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com

RE: Kitten Update

2007-09-28 Thread catatonya
It's been a while since I've dealt with kittens, but in my fairly long ago memory, albon rarely touched the coccidia. I know I've had kittens on metronidazole for it. (flagyl) t Caroline Kaufmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: .hmmessage P { margin:0px; padding:0px } body.hmmessage {

Re: choosing a vet -OT

2007-09-28 Thread Kelley Saveika
1. No importance. 2. No importance. 3. Very important, I have actually never had a vet that did this, I was always welcome to be in the room with the cat. My current vet does temp and weight in the back and that's about it. On 9/28/07, catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How important is it

Re: Kitten Update

2007-09-28 Thread Kelley Saveika
See, my vet says flagyl does nothing for coccidia. Coccidia needs sulfa based drugs to kill it. Flagyl kills giardia. Sometimes. It doesn't kill the giardia I've had in my house forever. Nothing else does, either. On 9/28/07, catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's been a while since I've

Re: ot-cisapride?

2007-09-28 Thread Barb Moermond
cisapride? hmm. it's been taken off the U.S. market for people... http://www.rxlist.com/cgi/generic/cisap.htm I think lactulose is worth trying - one brand is Enulose - ask about it (firmly) are you using digestive enzymes? I sprinkle prozyme on their crunchies and if I run out, or

RE: Kitten Update

2007-09-28 Thread Caroline Kaufmann
I think they are June babies, but don't know the dates for sure because I don't have their records with me and I don't think they are from the same litter. They all weigh over 2 lbs now. Yoda shot up from 2.4 at Labor Day when I took him in to 3.6 last Saturday when I weighed him. The two

Re: choosing a vet -OT

2007-09-28 Thread Marylyn
Thoughts: vets who see more than one type of animal may be more open to ideas..well, cats don't normally get this but dogs do and possibly this cat picked it up in a 1 in 1000 chance Declawing is a volatile but personal issue and may not be a black and white issue. Perhaps it is

Re: Kitten Update

2007-09-28 Thread MaryChristine
kelley, remind me on giardia--is that one that isn't easy to find (ie, isn't in every sample?) i know that's the case with coccidia.. so far (keeping lots and lots of paws crossed), i've never had giardia, so i don't know it's smell, but once you've had coccidia in your house, you never forget

Re: We are not perfect

2007-09-28 Thread MaryChristine
tonya, you weren't around as frequently back in the early spring when some of us were trying, gently, to correct those who either out of lack of information, or self-righteousness, were putting out dangerous information. we were attacked when we asked people to do the research themselves, to check

Re: choosing a vet -OT

2007-09-28 Thread Belinda
I would choose the vet I thought was giving the best care to my furkids, that would be the most important thing to me. I'm sure you could find something you didn't particularly like with just about any vet so so for me I'd go with the one I feel most comfortable with and feel is giving

Re: choosing a vet -OT

2007-09-28 Thread MaryChristine
many places don't HAVE cat-only clinics, so it's not even an option i've worked with both, can't say that either kind were intrinsically BETTER. the chemistry between vet and cat, the openness to new ideas and learning is what's paramount to me--i've seen pompous, know-everything,

Re: Kitten Update

2007-09-28 Thread Kelley Saveika
Giardia is hard to find. That's how it got into my house. My Ciara, who I later had to send to the bridge due to inoperable/untreatable mouth cancer, had giardia..the sample came back clean, so it was diagnosed as IBD. (not by my regular vet, this is what swore me off going to cheap vets, but

Re: ot-cisapride?

2007-09-28 Thread MaryChristine
and you know my answer: add yogurt to that pumpkin! if he's a coonie, he's even more likely to love it... (coons seem to love pumpkin, for some unknown reason) the whole thing sounds weird to me--as far as i know (which is limited), baytril IS still the first drug of choice for utis, and in

Re: Kitten Update

2007-09-28 Thread Kelley Saveika
Giardia is a parasite. You can get it from drinking dirty water, and that is a common way for humans to get it. Dogs and cats can also get it from drinking dirty water..but they can also get it from licking their feet after being in the litterbox..from licking their butts...from sniffing the

Re: We are not perfect ~ MaryChristine

2007-09-28 Thread laurieskatz
MC,. would you be willing to email me privately? Laurie (of Isabella, Laurie and Lisa) [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: MaryChristine To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 9:46 AM Subject: Re: We are not perfect tonya, you weren't

RE: We are not perfect

2007-09-28 Thread catatonya
This list has always had divisions: declaw/not declaw outside/inside aggressive treatment/leave them alone pts/die naturally mix + and - / keep separate animal communication/ scam. We have all always had different opinions, but we have always been respectful in those

Re: Ember and weight loss

2007-09-28 Thread catatonya
I don't know. I was floored recently to get two totally different reads on Bob's cbc's when I took him to a new vet. You might try going for a second opinion. My 'old' vet said cbc looked fine. My 'new' vet said the values showed the beginnings of crf and wants to start fluids and

choosing a vet -OT

2007-09-28 Thread catatonya
How important is it to you when looking for a vet that it be 1- a cat only clinic 2-doesn't declaw 3 doesn't take your cat 'to the back' to do everything? That is what I had and lost. When Bob got sick last week I took off the morning to call and get him in and there was no

ot-cisapride?

2007-09-28 Thread catatonya
My cat Bob is still having problems with constipation. He is still currently negative for felv (just retested him last week). He was positive as a kitten in 1992ish. He then threw the virus, and has lived with 2 positives all his life. He is the one who has had the oxcylate crystals.

Cindy Smokey

2007-09-28 Thread cindy reasoner
I haven't been able to post in a long time. I haven't really been able to read any post but today I was able to read a few. I am not sure what is going on with this site but all I know is that many caring people on this site helped to save my precious Smokey. He is still doing good. I am sorry

Re: Kitten Update

2007-09-28 Thread catatonya
In my experience though, coccidia gets really bad, really fast. i.e. the kittens are basically dripping diarrheaThey get it on their rear ends and back legs and have to be bathed frequently, etcThey don't make it to the litterbox. That's what has been my experience with coccidia.

Engystol Quality Foods

2007-09-28 Thread Dawn Morrison
I took my little 2 year old, Bea, to a holistic/hemopathetic vet last night. He said she is doing very well and doesn't show any signs of the illness - thank God! He put her on Transfer Factor Plus (which many of you had mentioned, thank you) and also Engystol. I was wondering if anyone has

Re: Ember and weight loss

2007-09-28 Thread MaryChristine
there are a couple of websites you can find with just normal searches that explain what all the test values should be, so you can help evaluate your vet's evaluation. i think i found them through a, feline blood test results search. (i'm still not back on my main computer, so can't find half my

Re: Kitten Update

2007-09-28 Thread laurieskatz
I don't remember Giardia odor but think it's from drinking dirty water. Treatable...I think with antibiotics. I don't recall vets finding it in a stool sample...just that we've treated cats with diarrhea for it. Laurie - Original Message - From: MaryChristine To:

Re: Engystol Quality Foods

2007-09-28 Thread Marylyn
I've switched Dixie over to Primal Raw + veggies. She gets Wellness if we are traveling or time is tight. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of

RE: Cindy Smokey

2007-09-28 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
I'm so sorry for your loss Cindy, but I'm glad you were with Elvis all the way, and he knew how very loved he was. I think it really helps--it helped me, anyway. hugs, Kerry M. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of cindy reasoner Sent:

Re: Cindy Smoke

2007-09-28 Thread MaryChristine
GLOW to heal your heart, cindy. elvis knows how much you loved him, and those are their memories he carries with him now as he bounds about the bridge, chasing after those cats who want to play! hardest part of the critter-parenting job is learning when it's time to let go, and whether we want to

RE: Engystol Quality Foods

2007-09-28 Thread Caroline Kaufmann
My cat and kittens really love the Wellness brand wet food (reccomended by my Holistic vet). And I mean they LOVE it! They eat it as if it's one of the brands like Sheba or Fancy Feast-- they just freak out over it. You can also tell it's such a high-quality food just by the look of it and

RE: Engystol Quality Foods

2007-09-28 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
This is very encouraging, Caroline. We've just started feeding the Wellness cans to our skinny old hyperthyroid Missy, trying to give her a little more heft. While at this point it's not really our #1 concern that she not get fat (we are also feeding her empty calories in the form of

RE: Engystol Quality Foods

2007-09-28 Thread Chris
I switched to Wellness wet when I realized that all my cats were turning into little porkos! LOL I figured they didn't need all those fillers. They love the Wellness I really saw differences in their coats. However, they really don't like the dry Wellness for some reason. I give them very

RE: Engystol Quality Foods

2007-09-28 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dawn Morrison Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 12:06 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Engystol Quality Foods I also wanted to share something he said to me. We were getting ready to

Junior/Pewter

2007-09-28 Thread Sally Davis
Hi Folks, Today Pewter got her booster shots for as they call it distemper feline leukemia, and rabies. SHe manages to get in my rrom with regularity. This is where I keep Junior my FELV+ kitty. Next week is the one year anniversary of his positive test. He had a rough go of it until January.

Someone please help me educate these Petfinder forum people...

2007-09-28 Thread Kelley Saveika
[quote=palikakitty]Kutin and I rescued two cats from a kill shelter and got them into a no-kill shelter. They were buddies. One was very obese and eventually had to be put to sleep. Allie became very depressed, stopped eating, etc. The shelter director asked me if I would foster her. I took her

Kitten update Take 2

2007-09-28 Thread Caroline Kaufmann
I got the results of Yoda's fecal back and it's totally negative- even the flotation. Now I don't know what to do and I pretty much told the Doctor that (what do I do!?). He doesn't seem to think it's from the antibiotic. Yoda was the first started on it at Labor Day and he was on it 10

Re: Kitten update Take 2

2007-09-28 Thread Sherry DeHaan
Hi Caroline,I have never heard of them needing a sample straight from the cats butt to check for Giardia.I have left samples in the fridge at the shelter for it to be checked and it showed up in my Genevieves when I first brought her home.And thank goodness none of the boys caught it!! Sherry

Re: Kitten update Take 2

2007-09-28 Thread laurieskatz
poor baby. could it be a food allergy? ibd? can you feed him an unusual protein to see if that helps? I had an ibd cat for 6 years. Finally, home prepared food did the trick. www.catnutrition.org has a great recipe. My best. So frustrating for ou and scarey for him. He must not feel very

Re: Engystol Quality Foods

2007-09-28 Thread Marylyn
By any chance are you using litter with a scent? If so, try changing to an unscented version. No cat I have had likes (and some refuse) the scented version. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures

Re: Kitten update Take 2

2007-09-28 Thread Marylyn
The food allergy is a really good thought. The Royal Princess Kitty Katt developed one at about 12 years of age + developed a problem processing fatty foods. Really big problems odorwise. Try an elimination diet? If you have men who

RE: Kitten update Take 2

2007-09-28 Thread Caroline Kaufmann
I have no idea? I guess I just have to wait and see and keep working the vet. I can always take him to Monkee's Holistic Vet next week if we don't get anywhere with the regular vet. Second opinion. I'll tell him you sent his regards, but I don't think he will care! The funniest thing is

RE: Kitten update Take 2

2007-09-28 Thread Caroline Kaufmann
I have no idea? I guess I just have to wait and see and keep working the vet. I can always take him to Monkee's Holistic Vet next week if we don't get anywhere with the regular vet. Second opinion. I'll tell him you sent his regards, but I don't think he will care! The funniest thing is