OT: diarreah in 6 month old kitten

2007-12-19 Thread Caroline Kaufmann
I have a 6 month old non-felv kitten named Yoda that has had diarrhea pretty much off and on ever since I've had him (Labor Day). Some of you may remember me asking you about Yoda's diarrhea back then (at first I thought it was just the antibiotic for his URI, but he hasn't been on an

OT: socializing barn kittens

2007-12-19 Thread Caroline Kaufmann
My other issue is that is took in 3 female barn kittens last Sat. We are estimating they are about 8 wks (just got spayed on Mon and all weigh almost 3 lbs). They were born in a barn in Indiana- mom was dropped off on this man's farm and had her kittens in the barn. I don't know too many

Re: OT: diarreah in 6 month old kitten

2007-12-19 Thread Susan Hoffman
Consider tritrichomonas foetus, which is similar to giardia but requires treatment with ronidazole. (Info at http://www.bengalcatclub.com/downloads/HealthDIARRHEA1-06.pdf or via google.) A lot of times, fecal tests show nothing even when something is definitely there. And a lot of

Re: OT: diarreah in 6 month old kitten

2007-12-19 Thread Kelley Saveika
You know - has he been treated for coccidia? A lot of times my vet will treat for coccidia even if nothing shows up on the fecal, because it is so hard to detect. Metronidazole doesn't cure coccidia...Albon or there is a new drug that does it... On Dec 19, 2007 2:32 PM, Caroline Kaufmann [EMAIL

RE: OT: diarreah in 6 month old kitten

2007-12-19 Thread Chris
I think Flaglyl for Coccidia== All these parasites are real tough to find---they require repeated fecal test as unless the sample is from a particular spot of the feces that happens to have one of the little buggers-it will go undedected.. Christiane Biagi 914-632-4672 Cell:

RE: OT: diarreah in 6 month old kitten

2007-12-19 Thread Caroline Kaufmann
No. I didn't want to give him anything that he didn't need. But I do have access to Albon. Incidentally, one of the other fosters told me on Sat.- when I was complaining about Yoda's on going saga- that some of her cats- or a litter that was recently adopted, not sure which, just tested

RE: socializing barn kittens

2007-12-19 Thread Chris
Fostered a little guy that somebody had dumped .. he was a real problem to pick up-he'd hiss and curl up just as you described. He'd also run a whole lot faster than me and could get under things! LOL I just made it a point to pick him up as much as I could. He was around my cats and I

Re: OT: socializing barn kittens

2007-12-19 Thread Susan Hoffman
You're actually off to a very good start. - Keep holding and petting, whether they admit to liking it or not, and keep the feathery toys handy. - Keep them in a very small space so you can easily get your hands on them. - Add a little meat baby food to your repertoire, especially

RE: OT: diarreah in 6 month old kitten

2007-12-19 Thread Susan Hoffman
Metronidazole can in very rare instances cause convulsions. Very rare though. Untreated giardia is far more dangerous. And, uh, Caroline, if you ever catch giardia from a foster kitty, we're going to have to discuss some grooming issues. Transmission is a fecal to oral route. So don't

Re: OT: socializing barn kittens

2007-12-19 Thread MaryChristine
yeah, what susan just said. i will go and sit in the room with them, too, with some absolutely irresistable toy and make an absolute fool out of myself playing with it, ignoring them all the while. often the temptation to play is just TOO great to resist i won't try to force contact on

RE: socializing barn kittens

2007-12-19 Thread Caroline Kaufmann
Thanks! That makes me feel better! I do leave the TV on their room all day to force them to get used to human voices. As far as food bowls and litter box- no problem (except for the inevitable laying in the litter box!). Nothing is going to stop these little pigs from eating...trust me.

RE: socializing barn kittens

2007-12-19 Thread Susan Hoffman
You've found their Achilles heel -- their appetites! Work it. Meat baby food, a little roast chickenThey'll learn to appreciate people very quickly at that rate. Caroline Kaufmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: .hmmessage P { margin:0px; padding:0px } body.hmmessage { FONT-SIZE:

RE: OT: diarreah in 6 month old kitten

2007-12-19 Thread Caroline Kaufmann
Well, Yoda's favorite thing to do is run across my bed, romp on it and rummage in my pillow! So sometimes there are poopy footprints left on my bed! It's so gross- and I have a multiple junky covers I use as my top sheet to protect my actual bedsheets from getting the Yoda-prints...but

RE: OT: diarreah in 6 month old kitten

2007-12-19 Thread Susan Hoffman
Yep, treat that boy! I'd go with ronidazole rather than flagyl/metronidazole. Ronidazole will treat giardia and tritrich. What dosage of metronidazole was he previously on and for how long? Don't count on fecal tests to be accurate. They really aren't especially in the early stages.

Re: socializing barn kittens

2007-12-19 Thread Marylyn
Try Feliway and CatNap (Dr. Maier has some) to calm them. Use the spray, not the plug ins. Feed them in very small amounts numerous times a day and let them see you and associate you with the food. Watch out for those baby teeth. Don't be afraid but know that they know how to protect

Re: OT: diarreah in 6 month old kitten

2007-12-19 Thread Jane Lyons
Caroline I've been battling diarrhea for months. It began as giardia and we used everything beginning with Panacur on down and nothing has worked. We used a remedy, Thullium met which worked for several months but it is back again and we in the same state that you are. Nina has a cat (Gypsy)

RE: socializing barn kittens

2007-12-19 Thread Chris
The little guy I fostered first latched on to my youngest (and smallest and most playful cat) He followed him around continuously and played non stop. Then he latched on to my Tucson who just didn't know what to make of him taking over her favorite 'napping' spot. S, I think it does help to

Re: OT: diarreah in 6 month old kitten

2007-12-19 Thread Pat Kachur
I had a calico Persian kitty (Priscilla) who when I got her was just a kitten (she passed away at age 15 last year) and had the same kind of diarrhea problem when she first came to live with me--while otherwise perfectly healthy. When I switched her to Max Cat, it immediately went away and she

RE: OT: diarreah in 6 month old kitten

2007-12-19 Thread Caroline Kaufmann
Okay, thanks. We are not desperate yet, but it is definitely affecting my ability to adopt him. He's getting bigger and bigger every day and he's now a juvenile and past that adorable teeny kitten stage that all the people seem to want. And I sometimes hold off taking him to cat adoption

RE: socializing barn kittens

2007-12-19 Thread Caroline Kaufmann
Yes! That is exactly what I told my mom! That's the comparison I used. That they make me feel bad about myself b/c of the way they look at me when I come in the room...they look UP at me like I'm the giant from Jack the Beanstock and I'm there to eat them...and when they scamper away from

Re: socializing barn kittens

2007-12-19 Thread Marylyn
Ask Monkee to help you. The Royal Princess Kitty Katt hid from me for months after she had to come live with me. She was an almost grown feral when she decided to move in with my parents..long story but I slept on the floor with her (reducing my size considerably--you might try it

Re: socializing barn kittens

2007-12-19 Thread Marylyn
When you stare at them you are challenging them. I know it is fun but you need to look at them thru almost closed eyes. You are threatening to them. I found out the hard way. I thought you could stare down a cat like you can some dogs. NOPE. They are CAT.

Re: OT: diarreah in 6 month old kitten

2007-12-19 Thread C J
Just a suggestion, have you ever tried a raw diet? I feed raw, and one thing I've read many times, is that cats with chronic IBD often develop normal poo when fully switched to raw. - Original Message - From: Caroline Kaufmann To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday,

Re: OT: diarreah in 6 month old kitten (Questions for Caroline)

2007-12-19 Thread Susan Hoffman
Please do not assume IBD. That's basically a default diagnosis when nothing else makes sense. 1. How long was he on metronidazole and at what dosage? 2. Has your vet considered tritrichomonas foetus and treatment with ronidazole? (Tritrich is really pretty common. Until recently

Re: OT: diarreah in 6 month old kitten (Questions for Caroline)

2007-12-19 Thread Kelley Saveika
On Dec 19, 2007 6:23 PM, Susan Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please do not assume IBD. That's basically a default diagnosis when nothing else makes sense. 1. How long was he on metronidazole and at what dosage? 2. Has your vet considered tritrichomonas foetus and treatment with

RE: socializing barn kittens

2007-12-19 Thread Caroline Kaufmann
They are actually doing really well so far. I have one sitting in my lap right now napping, but when I starting typing on the keyboard, she woke up a little and just follows the cursor with her eyes! But no freak-out or anything. I also discovered the other night that they will nap while I

RE: socializing barn kittens

2007-12-19 Thread Chris
Best ideas I have would be to let them romp around with the older guys as soon as you can and to just always pick them up, nuzzle and put down-make it a game with them. One thing about kittens-they just love to play! Christiane Biagi 914-632-4672 Cell: 914-720-6888 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: socializing barn kittens

2007-12-19 Thread Kelley Saveika
Sounds like you're doing a great job!:) -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Please help Clarissa!

Re: socializing barn kittens

2007-12-19 Thread Marylyn
If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise