[Felvtalk] a decision

2008-08-02 Thread Lynne
I'm faced with another horrible decision. Our 19 year old should be leaving this world and I just can't deal with this. He is pretty much deaf, weak, frail yet eats like a piggy. But now he is not using his litter box all the time and is peeing just about everywhere. We have put litter

Re: [Felvtalk] a decision

2008-08-02 Thread Marylyn
Some people, including me, contact animal communicators when faced with problems. If you are open to this, try it and what rings true to your heartnot your mind but your heart. On Aug 2, 2008, at 9:33 AM, Lynne wrote: I'm faced with another horrible decision. Our 19 year old should be

Re: [Felvtalk] a decision

2008-08-02 Thread Lynne
Thanks Marylyn and Sally. I have never heard of an animal communicator. And no Sally I haven't taken him to the vet. We agreed though that we are going to before making a decision. My husband said he got so angry last night for what Lennie had done but says he doesn't want to have him put

Re: [Felvtalk] a decision

2008-08-02 Thread Marylyn
On Aug 2, 2008, at 12:17 PM, Marylyn wrote: Can you confine him to an area where he will cause no harm? Perhaps try some sort of sedatives or catnip or ? to relieve whatever anxieties he may have? I am a big believer in Feliway and Rescue Remedy. This is assuming he is having some

Re: [Felvtalk] a decision

2008-08-02 Thread Lynne
Thanks again Marylyn. I had just sat down to do some googling for Len. We have a nice back room, the laundry room, just redid it with easily cleanable flooring so we've decided that will be his night time room. We're also able to leave the patio door open enough for him to go out there but

Re: [Felvtalk] a decision

2008-08-02 Thread Marylyn
On Aug 2, 2008, at 12:51 PM, Marylyn wrote: You are listening to your heart. This is good. Try some fresh catnip now that he is having problems. Tastes change and a few leaves won't hurt a thing. On Aug 2, 2008, at 12:32 PM, Lynne wrote: Thanks again Marylyn. I had just sat down to do

Re: [Felvtalk] a decision

2008-08-02 Thread wendy
Hi Lynne, I am so sorry that your kitty isn't doing well.  Do you think he's dehydrated at all?  Because if he is, subQ fluids will make him feel better until it is time to go.  I know how torturous it is to go through this waiting period, so please be very kind and gentle with yourself.  You

Re: [Felvtalk] a decision

2008-08-02 Thread Lynne
I've just called three vet places and none of them carry Feliway. I also called a PetSmart and they told me they are no longer able to carry it, just vets. I may have to order it online. But I will try some fresh catnip. That I have no problem in finding. Before I go to bed at night with

[Felvtalk] Format

2008-08-02 Thread Dawn Morrison
Is there a way to format how we receive the posts? I find it very difficult to see where one post begins/ends. There used to be numbers in the body that corresponded with the top of the email but they aren't there anymore. ___ Felvtalk mailing

Re: [Felvtalk] a decision

2008-08-02 Thread Lynne
Thank you Wendy. I don't think he's dehydrated. He has always been a water lover. Bob changes his water several times a day when I'm at work so he always has fresh water. Len always drinks after he eats. I think it's a pretty simple matter of senile dementia. I swear it's like watching my

Re: [Felvtalk] a decision

2008-08-02 Thread Marylyn
On Aug 2, 2008, at 1:36 PM, Marylyn wrote: Be very careful with lavender. There is something in the essential oil that is poisonous to cats. Or so my holistic vet, who is an expert in cats, says. http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_gw?url=search-alias=apsfield-keywords=feliwayx=15y=19

[Felvtalk] OT Dementia

2008-08-02 Thread Sally Davis
Lynne I am sure you have already googled it, but these seemed to be a reasonanle expaination of Feline dementia. I am always learning http://cat-care.suite101.com/article.cfm/does_your_cat_have_alzheimers I too have emailed an animal communicator I used during the time when I lost so many

Re: [Felvtalk] a decision

2008-08-02 Thread Lynne
Really? I make linen spray with the smallest amount of lavender essential oil for it's aromatic effect only. It's known to be calming and also good for headaches. Snowy never gets any on her directly, we just like going to bed with the nice scent in the air. I will read up on that however.

Re: [Felvtalk] OT Dementia

2008-08-02 Thread Lynne
No I haven't Sally but I will now. Thanks Lynne - Original Message - From: Sally Davis To: FeLV Talk Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 2:48 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] OT Dementia Lynne I am sure you have already googled it, but these seemed to be a reasonanle expaination of

[Felvtalk] OT: feliway availability

2008-08-02 Thread MaryChristine
most vets here don't carry it, as it's not a medicine--but for a brief period last year, no STORES could carry it because the state of michigan decided that it was a drug, and the company that made it refused to put it through the years of clinical trials involved, since no OTHER state was

Re: [Felvtalk] Pictures of our kitties

2008-08-02 Thread Jennifer
Sally, your Zoe looks like my Isobel!  Jennifer - PROUD VEGETARIAN LOCAL SPCA VOLUNTEER.  Be their voice.         ~ loving mama to ~           Morrison (born Oct. 10, 2000)           Isobel aka Fat Girl (born Feb. 7, 2007)           Ash (born July 11, 2007, diagnosed FeLV+ July 28, 2008)

Re: [Felvtalk] Pictures of our kitties

2008-08-02 Thread Jennifer
Thank you!  Jennifer - PROUD VEGETARIAN LOCAL SPCA VOLUNTEER.  Be their voice.         ~ loving mama to ~           Morrison (born Oct. 10, 2000)           Isobel aka Fat Girl (born Feb. 7, 2007)           Ash (born July 11, 2007, diagnosed FeLV+ July 28, 2008) --- On Sat, 8/2/08, Jane

Re: [Felvtalk] a decision

2008-08-02 Thread Jennifer
I'm so sorry to hear that :(  It's really really tough when they get older.   Jennifer - PROUD VEGETARIAN LOCAL SPCA VOLUNTEER.  Be their voice.         ~ loving mama to ~           Morrison (born Oct. 10, 2000)           Isobel aka Fat Girl (born Feb. 7, 2007)           Ash (born July

Re: [Felvtalk] a decision

2008-08-02 Thread Jennifer
Do they really work?  I've heard really bad stories about pet psychics.  I'm sure animals can be tapped into because they have brains, they have feelings, they can think...but I don't know...the whole thing seems a bit hoaky.  I'd like to be proven wrong though.  Jennifer - PROUD VEGETARIAN

[Felvtalk] Supplements

2008-08-02 Thread Jennifer
What supplements can be given to a FeLV+ cat to keep them healthy?  Jennifer - PROUD VEGETARIAN LOCAL SPCA VOLUNTEER.  Be their voice.         ~ loving mama to ~           Morrison (born Oct. 10, 2000)           Isobel aka Fat Girl (born Feb. 7, 2007)           Ash (born July 11, 2007,

Re: [Felvtalk] Pictures of our kitties

2008-08-02 Thread Sally Davis
you are welcome... I believe Zoe and JJ came from a house across the street from me. A household with young kids. Both of them are wild and full of energy. They both wanted to climb and get up in high places. JJ will literally climb the door frame of my bedroom. I do not see how he holds on. He

Re: [Felvtalk] Supplements

2008-08-02 Thread gary
There are lots of things people use but Lysine is used by many people with FeLV and FIV cats as an immune support. I use this on my cats. Moducare, although, I haven't figured out how to give it to my cats yet. Your supposed to give it on an empty stomach because it binds with cholesterol and

Re: [Felvtalk] Supplements

2008-08-02 Thread Jennifer
Thanks Gary.  These are veterinarian prescribed, or they can be purchased OTC at PetSmart or something?  Ash sees his vet on the 14th so I am going to ask him just to be sure.  I just wanted to go in there with some supplement names to throw at him.  Thanks again!  Jennifer - PROUD VEGETARIAN

Re: [Felvtalk] Supplements

2008-08-02 Thread wendy
I believe that L-lysine (pure) is very important in boosting the immune system.  It's an anti-viral and a natural amino acid.  It cannot be overdosed as it's water soluble.  Some people love Vitamin C, but I don't have any personal experience using that with my cats.  Best Friends Animal

Re: [Felvtalk] Supplements

2008-08-02 Thread gary
These are all OTC, do an online search for the best price. For Lysine: I buy it in a one pound container, last time I paid $17.88 including shipping (about 800 doses at 500mg). It's powder and I just disolve it in a little water and pour it on their food, it has no taste or smell. You can buy

Re: [Felvtalk] a decision

2008-08-02 Thread Alice hanson
Pet-co has feliway. I swear by it. It has gotten me and my kitties thru some very rough times. It really does work. alice - Original Message - From: Marylynmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Marylynmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc:

Re: [Felvtalk] Supplements

2008-08-02 Thread Jennifer
Thank you so much for your help.  I appreciate it  Jennifer - PROUD VEGETARIAN LOCAL SPCA VOLUNTEER.  Be their voice.         ~ loving mama to ~           Morrison (born Oct. 10, 2000)           Isobel aka Fat Girl (born Feb. 7, 2007)           Ash (born July 11, 2007, diagnosed FeLV+

Re: [Felvtalk] Supplements

2008-08-02 Thread MaryChristine
here's the direct quote from susan little, dvm, head of the Winn Feline Foundation (www.winnfelinehealth.org), Lysine is only helpful for control of herpesvirus infections. Otherwise, it has no effect on the immune system and no effect against other pathogens as far as we know. It is herpesvirus-

Re: [Felvtalk] Supplements

2008-08-02 Thread Sally Davis
There is this feral cat where I work. She has been fixed and her ear has been clipped. Getting her to a vet would be impossible as I imagine she would not get in a trap again. That being said she is very friendly to one lady at work who feeds her canned food. Anyway for the past couple months she

Re: [Felvtalk] Supplements/lysine

2008-08-02 Thread wendy
And again, I defend my stance.  Lysine deficiencies can result in lowered immune function.  Period.  Even if it only helps combat the herpes virus (as opposed to FeLV), it is STILL AN IMMUNE SYSTEM BOOSTER!  And keeping the immune system boosted is of utmost importance in keeping the FeLV virus

Re: [Felvtalk] OT: feliway availability

2008-08-02 Thread Marylyn
Thank goodness I have never had that problem and my vets (both regular and holistic) believe in it, use it and sell it. I do not like the plug in version at all though. On Aug 2, 2008, at 2:54 PM, MaryChristine wrote: most vets here don't carry it, as it's not a medicine--but for a brief

Re: [Felvtalk] Pictures of our kitties

2008-08-02 Thread Jane Lyons
Sally, Junior was so handsome. Funny, I always pictured him as a grey and white kittie. I'm happy to have finally met him. I can imagine how much you miss him. Jane On Aug 1, 2008, at 10:44 PM, Sally Davis wrote: JJ is adorable Sharyl --- On Fri, 8/1/08, Sally Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [Felvtalk] a decision

2008-08-02 Thread Marylyn
Can you confine him to an area where he will cause no harm? Perhaps try some sort of sedatives or catnip or ? to relieve whatever anxieties he may have? I am a big believer in Feliway and Rescue Remedy. This is assuming he is having some problems because of anxiety and/or is picking

Re: [Felvtalk] a decision

2008-08-02 Thread gary
Curious, PetSmart online still sells it. I suppose this could be some odd state regulation, but if it were me, I would call another PetSmart in your state and ask if they sell it. Might not be practical for you to go there (closest one to me is 3 hours) but I would sure want to know if what

Re: [Felvtalk] Supplements/lysine

2008-08-02 Thread wendy
And again, I defend my stance.  Lysine deficiencies can result in lowered immune function.  Period.  Even if it only helps combat the herpes virus (as opposed to FeLV), it is STILL AN IMMUNE SYSTEM BOOSTER!  And keeping the immune system boosted is of utmost importance in keeping the FeLV virus

Re: [Felvtalk] a decision

2008-08-02 Thread Marylyn
I've used them and have had very good luck. How do you know what a baby without words wants? Or how one cop can sense where the bad guy is hiding when dozens others can't? Or the feeling you get when sometime is just really wrong? There are charlatans out there unfortunately. You are

Re: [Felvtalk] Supplements

2008-08-02 Thread Marylyn
Ferals will frequently get back in the cage..I have had to release the five who stay at my Mom's more times than I can count and so have her neighbors. On Aug 2, 2008, at 5:30 PM, Sally Davis wrote: There is this feral cat where I work. She has been fixed and her ear has been

Re: [Felvtalk] Supplements/lysine

2008-08-02 Thread Sally Davis
Hi Wendy Since the feline herpes virus is fairly common in cats then I believe the addition of L lysine would be of benefit to cats with FELV especially if they are exhibiting cold-like symptoms. Semantics aside as to whether it boost the immune system or has some other mode of action, giving a

Re: [Felvtalk] Supplements/lysine

2008-08-02 Thread Marylyn
Colostrum is wonderful as far as I am concerned for any stressed animal. The two feral kittens I have been adopted by are getting it daily. They had a hard beginning. I want them to have everything I can think of to help them overcome it. They are also getting probiotics, grain free

Re: [Felvtalk] Supplements

2008-08-02 Thread Sally Davis
I will let Pat know. I imagine she needs her rabies vacination as I am sure it has been more than 3 years. Actually there is a couple feral colonies nearby and they are trapped and neutered etc she has never gone into the traps. Sally On ___ Felvtalk

Re: [Felvtalk] a decision

2008-08-02 Thread Sally Davis
I think Lynne is in Canada. So the regulations may be different. I remember she could not get immunoregulin for BooBoo when he was so sick. Sally ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

Re: [Felvtalk] Supplements/lysine

2008-08-02 Thread MaryChristine
lysine won't hurt; some vets say ALL cats should be on it, but i don't think it's fair for people who are desperately seeking help for their immune-compromised babies to think that something will do something that it cannot. as i said, i think it's pretty darned miraculous enough as it is! and

Re: [Felvtalk] OT: feliway availability

2008-08-02 Thread MaryChristine
and i prefer and have had better luck with the plug-in On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 6:59 PM, Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank goodness I have never had that problem and my vets (both regular and holistic) believe in it, use it and sell it. I do not like the plug in version at all

Re: [Felvtalk] Please remove me from the mailing list

2008-08-02 Thread Nazleen Rahmat
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Re: [Felvtalk] OT: feliway availability

2008-08-02 Thread gary
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Re: [Felvtalk] Supplements/lysine

2008-08-02 Thread Gloria Lane
Lysine counters the Arginine that Herpes needs to replicate - ...from veterinarypartner.com... • Oral Lysine Herpes viruses as a group are highly dependent on the presence of an amino acid called arginine. Without arginine, Herpes cannot reproduce. The amino acid lysine is taken up

Re: [Felvtalk] OT: feliway availability

2008-08-02 Thread Kelley Saveika
On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 10:00 PM, Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I haven't had luck with the plugins and not tried the spray, but if your vet does not sell them, they can both be obtained online. Probably cheaper than your vet, too. Plugin: http://tinyurl.com/5pmgnv Spray: