Re: [Felvtalk] DMG

2011-07-06 Thread Heather
Hope the DMG proves to be helpful, but just thought I'd mention the 3 we've had who had full mouth extractions were like new cats afterwards, and have done wonderfully ever since. They were not FELV cats, though. On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 9:59 AM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: Has any vet

Re: [Felvtalk] Dexter

2011-07-06 Thread Ben Williams
I'd like to start off this message by thanking all of you for your kind words regarding Dexter over the past few days - - my wife and I have shared and appreciated every one of the emails - it's meant a lot to us. Unfortunately, this morning has proven to be heartbreaking to us both - we received

Re: [Felvtalk] DMG

2011-07-06 Thread Natalie
Your cats had stomatitis? And it helped having all teeth removed? The problem with doing this to a cat with immunodeficiencies is (ours is FIV+, which is better than FeLV+) obviously slightly more risky! It does sound rather drastic, doesn't it? We have several old cats without teeth, and they

Re: [Felvtalk] Dexter

2011-07-06 Thread Cindy McHugh
Dear Ben, I'm having problems with receiving my email, so I've missed some of what's transpired with Dexter, but in reading your post, your profound love for him is so very clear. You did all you could for your dear boy and he knows that. I lost my beloved dog Jack to cancer last year. He

Re: [Felvtalk] Dexter

2011-07-06 Thread Terri Brown
Don't ever doubt that you did everything you could for your little guy, and don't ever doubt that he knew that and loved you for it. Sounds like he was too tired to stick around, and made the decision on his own. Dex is free of this awful disease now, and is happily romping around with all of

Re: [Felvtalk] Dexter

2011-07-06 Thread Beth
It sounds like Dexter was a wonderful boy. You were lucky to have him he you. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org   --- On Wed, 7/6/11, Ben Williams drsiebl...@gmail.com wrote: From: Ben Williams drsiebl...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Dexter To:

Re: [Felvtalk] Dexter

2011-07-06 Thread Sara Kasteleyn
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Re: [Felvtalk] Dexter and Cali are together now

2011-07-06 Thread ckessel1
Ben, I guess Dexter knew that Cali needed someone to play with from Dallas. We lost our Cali last Monday and it has been to hard for me to even write about it. You were so helpful to our little Cali and Dr. Wright was wonderful in the short time we had to make so many decisions. We only had

Re: [Felvtalk] Dexter

2011-07-06 Thread Sharyl
I was saddened to read that little Dexter has crossed the Rainbow Bridge.  He was  a brave warrior in his battle against FeLV.   You both did everything you could to help Dexter in this battle.  He is now healthy and chasing  butterflies.  I'll light a candle for Dexter tonight.   Sharyl 

Re: [Felvtalk] Dexter

2011-07-06 Thread terrie
Wanted to send my condolences as I may not post often as but I do read and follow the postings. It is heart breaking indeed I'm saddened by your loss of Dexter! I know this feeling all too well. Remember, he knows how much you loved him and did what you could do. He loved you in return. Bless you

Re: [Felvtalk] Dexter and Cali are together now

2011-07-06 Thread Cindy McHugh
Dear Cathy and Mark, I didn't realize you lost your little Cali. I'm so sorry for your loss, but I'm glad that Cali got to know your love and kindess. As I said to Ben, I pray you find comfort in knowing she's now happy and healthy. And when you consider that you'll have eternity together,

Re: [Felvtalk] Dexter and Cali are together now

2011-07-06 Thread Sara Kasteleyn
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Re: [Felvtalk] Dexter

2011-07-06 Thread Lynda Wilson
My heart is breaking after reading your story! I'm truly sorry Dexter is gone, but he will live within your heart now. You did so much for him and he fought the battle as much as he could. My thoughts are with you at this difficult time. Lynda - Original Message - From: Ben Williams

Re: [Felvtalk] Dexter and Cali are together now

2011-07-06 Thread Natalie
It is always so sad to hear about any of our little furries succumbing to this horrible disease; I just wish that there were more available to help them to feel better or get well. One would think, that after all these years, there would be more hope for them! What is it about this disease that

Re: [Felvtalk] Dexter

2011-07-06 Thread Ben Williams
Thanks so much, everyone. It's been a really hard day for us and I'm haunted by seeing Dexter this morning struggling so hard to live. You've all been so wonderful and your kind comments have really helped today - if anything, we are realizing even more now just how much we love that little boy.

Re: [Felvtalk] Dexter

2011-07-06 Thread ckessel1
Ben, Try not to remember what happened after Dexter gave his small sigh. Take comfort that his sigh to you was his sign that he could now relax and breath freely. What happens after that is just what the body does naturally. Many times, an animal can urinate or have other fluids that come

Re: [Felvtalk] Dexter

2011-07-06 Thread MaiMaiPG
It is natural for a body to release fluids and solids as the soul leaves it. This is true with animals and with people. It is not a sign of pain. It is a sign of muscle relaxation. This is one reason a vet may wrap a body in plastic. I never, ever, never have or will leave a friend to

Re: [Felvtalk] Dexter

2011-07-06 Thread Caspercat
So very sorry for your loss. I post rarely but have been following Dexter's story and it touched me. About your Euthanasia question - I don't know the answer but you may want to ask Dr. Cantrell to get the specifics of the yellow liquid just for your own information (and because you will

Re: [Felvtalk] Dexter

2011-07-06 Thread Natalie
I know that when an animal or human being dies, this is supposed to happen - but in all the years and all the euthanasia I had to have administered, always holding the animals (cats and dogs), and then staying with them for about 15 minutes (our vet allows everyone to be alone with them) - it has

Re: [Felvtalk] Dexter and Cali are together now

2011-07-06 Thread Lynda Wilson
You are most certainly correct, Natalie! Anyone know of a Feline Leukemia Society to donate to? Is there a group of scientists that are trying to find a cure or a better treatment plan for this deadly disease? Our poor babies!! - Original Message - From: Natalie at...@optonline.net

Re: [Felvtalk] Dexter

2011-07-06 Thread Lynda Wilson
Ben, same thing happened to my kitty, Crash, that I had adopted from the local Humane Society. I thought the same. I stayed so long with him to say good-bye that I noticed the fluid coming out of his nose. I never asked about it. I think at the time, I did not want to know. He was having a hard

Re: [Felvtalk] Dexter

2011-07-06 Thread Diane Rosenfeldt
Ben, I'm so sorry you and Dexter lost your fight. It happens all too often, and not from lack of caring or trying -- or from not doing things differently. Given Dex's condition as you describe it, I don't think the outcome would have been wildly different if the variables you mention had been

Re: [Felvtalk] DMG

2011-07-06 Thread Diane Rosenfeldt
Yes, in cats (and in humans) the constant infections and abscesses in a bad mouth of teeth have all sorts of dire consequences in the rest of the body's systems. I have never heard anyone who regretted having some or all of their babies' teeth pulled in the interests of clearing up stomatitis,

Re: [Felvtalk] Dexter and Cali are together now

2011-07-06 Thread Natalie
I have no idea - maybe we should all do some searches to see what's out there and ask a lot of questions! I'd hate to donate to anyone who merely uses cats for the sake of research; I'd like to see if there's someplace where they actually treat FeLV+ cats while trying for a cure, not mere research

Re: [Felvtalk] DMG

2011-07-06 Thread Natalie
What is puzzling about the connection between stomatitis/teeth/gums is that one could understand if they were in bad shape, but our FIV+ Sox has gorgeous white teeth and great pink gums. The consensus is that there may be things going on deep down at the roots, not visible in the mouth. Natalie

Re: [Felvtalk] Dexter and Cali are together now

2011-07-06 Thread Ben Williams
Doesnt the Wynn Foundation do a lot of good work for cats? -- My iPhone told me to send this message. -- On Jul 6, 2011, at 6:15 PM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: I have no idea - maybe we should all do some searches to see what's out there and ask a lot of questions! I'd hate to donate

Re: [Felvtalk] Dexter and Cali are together now

2011-07-06 Thread Natalie
I have no idea...do you know what exactly they do? What's their website - let's look into it. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Ben Williams Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 7:34 PM To:

Re: [Felvtalk] Dexter

2011-07-06 Thread Diane Rosenfeldt
Natalie, I have never had this experience either when one of my furbabies has passed -- but I haven't picked them up or moved them around, perhaps this is just a gravity issue. I work for the county Medical Examiner, and I can attest that more often than not, there is some sort of fluid that

Re: [Felvtalk] Dexter and Cali are together now

2011-07-06 Thread Ben Williams
http://www.winnfelinehealth.org/ You know, I've thought a lot about things that could make a difference and the most important thing that could change right now is the lack of availability of Virbagen Interferon Omega in the United States. Why in the world does it make any sense for the FDA to

[Felvtalk] Dexter

2011-07-06 Thread Amy
Ben, I'm very sorry to hear about Dexter.  He sounds like such a special boy.  It's never easy to know exactly the right time to let such a cherished friend go.  I have lost so many to this disease and I wonder the same things at times.  Did this one suffer?  Did I wait too long?  Did I miss

Re: [Felvtalk] Dexter and Cali are together now

2011-07-06 Thread Cindy McHugh
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Re: [Felvtalk] Dexter

2011-07-06 Thread Bonnie Hogue
Ben My deepest condolences go out to you and your family, including the other felines who are sure to miss Dex. What a little sweetheart he must have been. He was fortunate to have your love and care. ~Bonnie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org

Re: [Felvtalk] Dexter and Cali are together now

2011-07-06 Thread Lynda Wilson
I will ask my vet as well. Let's keep in touch and share what we find out. We definitely do not want our money wasted. Thanks for sharing that story. L - Original Message - From: Natalie at...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 6:15 PM

Re: [Felvtalk] Dexter and Cali are together now

2011-07-06 Thread Natalie
Do you know if the Interferon is available in Canada or Mexico? The FDA is a real joke. My husband retired from Pfizer International Marketing, and I've heard my share of things.those who have worked at big pharmas end up working at the FDA, and often the reverse is true to - very handy for

[Felvtalk] Test post

2011-07-06 Thread Amy
My last post to Ben had question marks all through it that I did not type.   Guessing it might be due to the new Yahoo e-mail upgrade.  Sorry! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

Re: [Felvtalk] Dexter and Cali are together now

2011-07-06 Thread katskat1
Where please and how do you purchase Amoxicillin in Mexico? I buy the powder from my vet at her cost which is outrageous so if I could get it from Mexico it would be a God send to the small rescue I am co-founder of and maybe to her too. And for my two FeLV+ kitties I have a vet that provides