Re: [Felvtalk] Viral Shedding

2011-08-05 Thread Maureen Olvey
Beth - You're explanation makes great sense. Thanks for looking into this. I'll check out the link later on. I think you're right though and it's best to treat any cat that test positive on either test as a positive cat until you get a definite no. Whether they're supposed to be shedding

Re: [Felvtalk] Shedding Question- Tanya

2011-08-05 Thread Lynda Wilson
Tanya, Since you are a licensed vet tech, what is your opinion of cats/kittens testing a FAINT positive on an ELISA test? Do you think they are shedding the virus at this point? If anyone else has an opinion, it is welcomed as well. Thanks, Lynda - Original Message - From: TANYA

Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question

2011-08-05 Thread Martha Walton
Peaches was tested for FeLV this morning, negative result! Good news for Miss Peaches. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question

2011-08-05 Thread Lynda Wilson
Hooray!!! I'm sounding the blow horn! Whoohoo, congrats to you both! - Original Message - From: Martha Walton marthawal...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 11:03 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question Peaches was tested for FeLV

Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question

2011-08-05 Thread Natalie
FANTASTIC NEWS -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lynda Wilson Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 12:21 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question Hooray!!! I'm

Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People!

2011-08-05 Thread Lorrie
On 08-04, Natalie wrote: I hate people (except us)do you know how cowardly and cruel people are? They bring their cats/dogs to surrender at a shelter and claim that they are strays...a 14-yr old cat was just brought to a NY shelter, healthy but with a slight sniffle - how can anyone do

Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People!

2011-08-05 Thread Kelley Saveika
In all honesty, I have found MANY people in rescue to be horribly cruel and judgmental - towards OTHER PEOPLE, particularly other people in rescue. Rescue is a cutthroat business and not for the faint of heart. There's always someone ready to kick you when you're down, say you are not doing

Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People!

2011-08-05 Thread Edna Taylor
I DO tend to be judgmental when I get the I met a man and need to dump my cat because he has a dog/kids/hates cats . . . email. As a matter of fact, got one the other day. Woman in Austin threw her 14 year old declawed cat outside in this heat because her fiance is allergic AND then to add

Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People!

2011-08-05 Thread Lynda Wilson
It's a sad, selfish world!!! - Original Message - From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 9:14 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People! On 08-04, Natalie wrote: I hate people (except us)do you know how

Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People!

2011-08-05 Thread Lynda Wilson
That's a shame. I know when my husband attended UT, we wanted a cat or a kitten for a companion for me. It was so hard to find any!! They went like hotcakes, I guess b/c it's a college town. We eventually found one who happened to be orange white :) This woman could have found it a home, but

Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People!

2011-08-05 Thread D.S.Louis
Lets spay and neuter the people.Phoenix is GIVING away cats and dogs this weekend because they have so many in their shelterOne woman broght in  8 dogs..   --- On Fri, 8/5/11, Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net wrote: From: Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net Subject: Re:

Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People!

2011-08-05 Thread Natalie
You have to admit, those are unusual cases, where people REALLY have allergy problems, or moving and can't take pets - but most wait until a week or two before leaving. Yes, I agree about some rescue groups, but also seldom happens - some may be a bit judgmental, but probably for very good

Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People!

2011-08-05 Thread Natalie
I ABSOLUTELY AGREE! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Edna Taylor Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 12:54 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People! I DO tend to be

Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People!

2011-08-05 Thread Edna Taylor
YEP, first it's the cat she gives up, what is next? Also, I wonder, is it hard to walk and drive a car without a spine? Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 12:57:16 -0500 From: longhornf...@verizon.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People! That's a

Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People!

2011-08-05 Thread Edna Taylor
Arizona and Florida were hardest hit in 2008/2009 when the real estate market tanked and because of that those two states have the biggest influx of pets into shelters and animals left behind at foreclosed houses. I read an article yesterday about Homestead Florida and the numbers of

Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People!

2011-08-05 Thread Edna Taylor
See, that is why I have a hard time fostering anymore, I DON'T know where they will end up or what will happen. I rescued two beautiful Flame Point Himis from the Houston SPCA and they were SO skinny and, of course, had ringworm. Well, after 3 months of nursing them back to health

Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People!

2011-08-05 Thread Lynda Wilson
Kudos to her :) - Original Message - From: D.S.Louis delain...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 1:17 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People! Lets spay and neuter the people.Phoenix is GIVING away cats and dogs this weekend because

Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People!

2011-08-05 Thread Kelley Saveika
Wow, this used to be a really kind, supportive, positive list. It makes me sad to see that it doesn't seem to be any more. On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 2:19 PM, Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.netwrote: Kudos to her :) - Original Message - From: D.S.Louis delain...@yahoo.com To:

Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People!

2011-08-05 Thread Kelley Saveika
According to studies, giving away cats and dogs does not make the person value them any less. I paid $5 for my Missy and she is priceless - there is not enough money in the world to make me give her up.Giving away cats and dogs, when followup and education can be done, is a great way to find

Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People!

2011-08-05 Thread Edna Taylor
I don't see that it is not kind and supportive list but the truth is the truth, people give up their pets at an alarming rate and for, sometimes, what amounts to really stupid reasons. They also leave them in abandoned, foreclosed homes to starve to death. Does this mean that we are not

Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People!

2011-08-05 Thread Edna Taylor
Unfortunately, as has been proven by a few cruelty cases here in Texas, giving away pets on Craigslist is a recipe for disaster. Case in point (no, I will not post the article here) but there was a man in San Antonio who appeared to be loving and caring, he adopted three free cats from CL and

Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People!

2011-08-05 Thread Lorrie
This is STILL a kind, supportive group, but those of us who rescue see too much neglect and cruelty to look at the world thru rose colored glasses. While it is true that not all people are irresponsible and uncaring, we see entirely too many people who consider animals as disposable things.

Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People!

2011-08-05 Thread Natalie
We are all supportive of anyone who rescues, deals with unwanted and/or sick cats, fills their homes with discarded animals! I cannot tolerate people who are hypocritical about animals; pretending to love them, and then give them up at the drop of a hat even if it means abandoning them outside to

Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People!

2011-08-05 Thread Peggy Verdonck
I totally agree, but another side of the story...I got treated VERY bad by shelter personnel because I brought in a stray husky I found on the side of the road! I knew they thought I was lying. It made me feel horribble because I would never do that to one of my own animals!!! If they treat

Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People!

2011-08-05 Thread Kelley Saveika
I do rescue and have for years, and the people who have been by far the nastiest to me, have been OTHER RESCUERS.We recently had a cat in our program who was being advertised on Craigslist because she kept peeing outside the box. Everyone CANNOT keep a cat that keeps peeing outside the box.

Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People!

2011-08-05 Thread Kelley Saveika
I don't ask them if they have cable TV. I just give them food. On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 4:19 PM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: We are all supportive of anyone who rescues, deals with unwanted and/or sick cats, fills their homes with discarded animals! I cannot tolerate people who are

Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People!

2011-08-05 Thread Edna Taylor
Kelley, Are you the same Kelley from Austin who used to work with Siamese Rescue? From: moonv...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 16:29:20 -0500 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People! I don't ask them if they have cable TV. I just give them food.

Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People!

2011-08-05 Thread Joslin Potter
good for you Peggy, people can be so judgemental, we went to adopt a dog from the pound and had our daughter with us and they informed us that with a child that puppy could not be trusted! I was so upset I have never gone back, I normally turn to Criags list we have a lot of kitten drop offs

Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People!

2011-08-05 Thread Joslin Potter
I don't get that either, I have a friend of a friend who is looking to get rid of her 12 yr old cats becuase they are having a baby and she just can't take that chance of the cats smothering the child, while I'm sure it has happened to people, come on, my cat was more scared of my daughter as a

Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People!

2011-08-05 Thread Joslin Potter
What a wonderful example of how to handle a situation, I get that your kids come before pets, I'm happy to hear they just didnt go and drop them off, and you know they were just hoping for the best when they even offered to pay to send the cats back. Everytime we get a drop of my heart just

Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People!

2011-08-05 Thread Joslin Potter
Are you serious, did she get arrested for animal hording? Come on who does that? She DOES need a neuter! From: D.S.Louis delain...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, August 5, 2011 2:17 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People! Lets spay and neuter the

Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People!

2011-08-05 Thread Joslin Potter
I think that people should have to be kept on record when they take animals to the pound and what not, i wonder, quite honestly, how many people out there get kittens and puppies and then  drop them off once they get bigger or realize that there just to hyper, or even worse, they just grew up.

Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People!

2011-08-05 Thread Joslin Potter
i like that Edna, I'm so posting that to my FB! From: Edna Taylor taylore...@msn.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, August 5, 2011 4:18 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People! I don't see that it is not kind and supportive list but the truth is the truth,

Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People!

2011-08-05 Thread Joslin Potter
UUHH, Natalie that just irks me, you know my best friend has 6 cats, most of them she took home from our house as i said before we have a lot of drop offs, and they do not have internet or cable because their animals come FIRST, they also have two dogs, but still she said that these are her

Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People!

2011-08-05 Thread Maureen Olvey
I guess we've all seen a little of everything. The problem with us in rescue is that by definition rescue means you are rescuing homeless or abused animals. So rescue people will always see the worst and it makes us hard and cynical. The pure selfishness of people probably gets to

Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People!

2011-08-05 Thread Maureen Olvey
I like that too. However my husband just called to tell me one of our cats just brought in a bird (we have a cat fence in our backyard) and that the bird is trapped in my computer stand. Makes me wonder why I love those little bloodthirsty killers. “I am not interested to know whether

Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People!

2011-08-05 Thread Maureen Olvey
The worse part is that if you're the one in the rescue that is taking the animal in from those kinds of people you can't tell them off because you need to get the animal in hand first so they don't hurt it or just dump it by the road. Man is it hard to bite your tongue sometimes. “I am not

Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People!

2011-08-05 Thread Maureen Olvey
You should tell her to tell her friend that she needs to come out of the dark ages and stop believing that old wives tale about cats smothering babies. I can just see a cat put one paw over a baby's nose and then a paw over it's mouth with the intention of smothering it. And about the whole

Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People!

2011-08-05 Thread Natalie
It's true - rescuers get to see and hear of real scum of the earth - Do Not Adopt lists circulate constantly of people who pretend to be nice, but end up torturing kittens and cats. I had an alert of a woman on Long Island with three children and 2 cats who lost her home and is going to a

Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People!

2011-08-05 Thread Natalie
AMEN to that! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maureen Olvey Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 7:41 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People! You should tell her to

Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People!

2011-08-05 Thread TANYA NOE
Edna, can I steal that line for my FB as well. lets see how far it travels around the rescue community! --- On Fri, 8/5/11, Joslin Potter joslinir...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Joslin Potter joslinir...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People! To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People!

2011-08-05 Thread Kelley Saveika
Yes, I am. When I originally came to this list, it was because I had a kitten who tested light pos (I have since learned there is no such thing) and SR was giving me no support whatsoever so I came here for support instead. Everyone here wanted to know who the rescue was but I didn't tell them

Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People!

2011-08-05 Thread D.S.Louis
KIDS?   it is called child abuse...happens all the time..Grandmother in Pheonix locked granddaughter in  locker.because she stole a popcycle from the frig.The girls mother left her with the grandmother because GRANDMOTHER was abusive. SPAY AND NEUTER... --- On Fri, 8/5/11,

Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People!

2011-08-05 Thread terrie
Hi all, Sorry if this is long. I've been on this group/listfor a very long time. Seen many members come and go over the course of time byexpressing their opinions that others didn't approve. I continue to stay on for support and to help others if I can off the group/list. However, I do agree

Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People!

2011-08-05 Thread Joslin Potter
I agree. we are not speaking. From: Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, August 5, 2011 7:40 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People! You should tell her to tell her friend that she needs to come out of the dark ages and stop believing