Re: [Felvtalk] Giving sub-q fluids

2012-05-08 Thread gary
I use the same 20 ga needle and like them. I think the flow rate is actually a bit slower than an 18 ga., but I would just as soon take a few minutes more and use the smaller needle. It is a bit unnerving sticking your baby the first few times you do it and you just might do a through and

Re: [Felvtalk] Giving sub-q fluids

2012-05-08 Thread gary
I wouldn't use one that small except on a very small kitten and then I usually take the fluid into a syringe and give it to them. One trick I learned from a vet tech and forgot to mention before. When the fluid is starting to build up to a lump under the cats skin the pressure they feel can

Re: [Felvtalk] Giving sub-q fluids

2012-05-08 Thread GRAS
Yes, even the smallest needles work, they just take a lot longer. Sometimes, when you notice that the drip isn't fast enough, even though you've opened it up, lift up the skin, or move the needle around. Often, there's a kink/squeezed together on the tube where it was clamped over to shut down.

Re: [Felvtalk] Giving sub-q fluids

2012-05-08 Thread GRAS
Yes, even the smallest needles work, they just take a lot longer. Sometimes, when you notice that the drip isn't fast enough, even though you've opened it up, lift up the skin, or move the needle around. Often, there's a kink/squeezed together on the tube where it was clamped over to shut down.

Re: [Felvtalk] Giving sub-q fluids

2012-05-08 Thread Maureen Olvey
No, she's not tiny but she's lost weight and barely weighs 4 lbs. She's just so fragile. But that big 18 gauge needle would hurt me so I know it hurts her. I don't know how much to give her. When my vet tech friend did it Saturday she stopped after the lump started getting big and

Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be?

2012-05-08 Thread Marcia Baronda
What the hell is wrong with this vet, that he didn't even want to help a little helpless suffering animal feel better? And he has the knowledge and power to do just that!! I'm baffled. Not tooting my own horn by any means, but when people ask me why I do what I do for animals, the only answer I

Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be?

2012-05-08 Thread Maureen Olvey
Had to send this again because it bounced back the first time. I hate it when it does that. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity

Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be?

2012-05-08 Thread GRAS
When people ask me why I rescue cats and help animals, and why I don't help people instead (accusingly, of course), I tell them that the two are not mutually exclusive and besides, there are plenty of people who help people. My question to them is, do you help people?, which often catches them

Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be?

2012-05-08 Thread Chris Macke
I help both and the kitties are much more appreciative. Chris - Original Message - From: GRAS To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 4:24 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be? When people ask me why I rescue cats and help animals, and why I

Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be?

2012-05-08 Thread Beth
A lot of times you ARE helping people by helping animals. When you do spay/neuter for low income people or take animals from people who have fallen on hard times can no longer care for their animals you are helping the animals the people. Beth   Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! 

[Felvtalk] FW: Giving sub-q fluids

2012-05-08 Thread Natalie
It didn't go through, I am erasing bottom text, and resending - it was too big. From: Natalie [mailto:at...@optonline.net] Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 5:14 PM To: 'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org' Subject: RE: [Felvtalk] Giving sub-q fluids When a cat is so skinny, you have to really pick up

Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Giving sub-q fluids-I Did It!

2012-05-08 Thread Maureen Olvey
Yaay - I did it. It went much better. I used everyone's tips (thanks so much) and I went to a vet's office and bought a couple different sizes so I could try them. They sold them to me individually. I bought a 20g and a 22g. I ended up trying the 22 and it worked fine. Yeah, it took a

Re: [Felvtalk] Giving sub-q fluids

2012-05-08 Thread Maureen Olvey
The monject was what this vet had too. It worked okay but I'm going to order the UTW like you guys suggested. Thanks for the link. I'll check it out. Anything that helps. I still don't know that I could do it on an adult cat. It was easier on this kitten because she's so small that I

Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be?

2012-05-08 Thread Maureen Olvey
I said the exact same thing to my mother-in-law. She's a wonderful person but totally doesn't get the whole animal rescue thing. She loves animals but not like we do. But I think that comment from her came when we were discussing me giving up meat. That was just too radical for her I

Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be?

2012-05-08 Thread Maureen Olvey
I totally agree! Many people don't have anyone else but their pet and they love them dearly so if you can help them with vet bills, food, or taking the animals if they can't keep them anymore then it means the world to them. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results

Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be?

2012-05-08 Thread Maureen Olvey
You got that right. And they don't turn down the help or act like they don't need it. It's harder to help people because half the time they won't accept your offers of help. A cat or dog would never turn down charity. You put food in front of them and they're going to eat and not be too